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2 Nov 2026 · 48m · 20 chapters

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204: Pete's In for a Birthday Surprise...

In short

Birthday surprise and travel plans for Pete Wicks, plus advice on planning gifts and trips, and a discussion of upcoming hosting work in Australia (I’m a Celebrity…Unpacked). The episode mixes birthday banter with practical talk about Vegas, Halloween, and Australia routines, including what to expect when locked in the jungle and how to handle first-show nerves.

Guests

No traditional guests. Main hosts are Sam Thompson and Peter (Pete) Wicks; other people mentioned include Pete’s girlfriend Liv, his partner Talia (referred to as “Talia” in the transcript), and co-host Kemi.

Key claims

Pete despises birthdays but is excited for Vegas because it’s Liv’s planned surprise and his favorite place. Liv has booked flights/hotel and planned the itinerary. Pete is nervous about hosting Australia and wants a stylist for a “cooler” look (no shackets). For jungle advice: don’t stress trials, enjoy camp, and avoid arguments.

Notable examples

Princess Peach balloon behind Pete’s chair; Dogs Trust Basildon birthday video; AI-recorded “Rodney” message; a “cabbage” cake with 40 candles; Pete’s planned Swedish massage in Australia (“Ursula”); bringing a PlayStation 5 and Switch.

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Chapters

1:09

Peter's Birthday Surprise

The hosts discuss Peter's birthday and upcoming trip to Vegas.

“I mean, there's not celebrating it, and then there's just embarrassingly whacking a disformed woman behind my head.”
2:55

Planning a Trip to Vegas

Peter shares details about the planned itinerary and his excitement.

“We were in Vegas this time last year, all of us.”
5:41

Costume Conversations

The hosts talk about Halloween costumes and party plans.

“And I'm happy for a holiday with a missus.”
8:01

Future Birthday Plans

Discussion shifts to planning for upcoming birthdays and gifts.

“I don't like the attention of the best at all, but that's her event.”
10:00

Gift Ideas and Suggestions

Hosts share thoughts on meaningful gift-giving for loved ones.

“Watching everyone, because Hannah, can you ski?”
14:01

Planning a Birthday Surprise

The hosts discuss an elaborate surprise birthday dinner idea for a friend.

“why don't we bring all your mates together for dinner and I'll book a really nice restaurant and she was like, no, I can't think of anything worse.”
15:10

Reflections on Birthdays and Milestones

The conversation shifts to personal feelings about birthdays and milestones in relationships.

“If you ever need advice on anything girls, right, I've never gone to anyone.”
17:06

The Discomfort of Surprise Parties

Discussion on the awkwardness and discomfort of surprise parties and social expectations.

“nice to have a couple of days just to have a blowout with, with my person.”
19:20

The Nature of Best Friendships

Exploring the concept of best friends and the transient nature of friendships.

“What do you think about when people repost stories that other people have posted about them for their birthday on their own Instagram story?”
21:03

Friendship Dynamics and Changes

Discussion on the changing dynamics of friendships and people who frequently change friend groups.

“That's literally what that is, isn't it?”
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22:52

Excitement for Australia Trip

The hosts share excitement about upcoming trips to Australia and their experiences there.

24:53

Preparing for Hosting in Australia

Discussion about preparations and expectations for hosting a show in Australia, including nerves and excitement.

“The one thing I really want to do that I have, I bet there's an amazing massage place actually and the woman loves me there now.”
28:01

Planning for a Special Trip

The hosts discuss their plans for a trip, including locations and activities.

“If I'm ever driving like slightly, not like, I'm driving legally, but if I'm ever just like, you know, like getting a little bit of road rage, she goes, I'm in the car.”
29:59

Missing Home and Gaming Life

The hosts share their feelings about leaving the UK and the importance of routines.

“Obviously, you're going to be away for quite a bit.”
36:36

Birthday Messages and Surprises

The team shares birthday messages for Pete, including a special surprise.

“Well, actually, let's talk about that for a sec.”
37:56

Reflections on Friendship and Trust

A heartfelt discussion about friendship and the reliability of close relationships.

“The miserable dad of Pingu that just has a guy.”
42:00

Heartfelt Birthday Tribute

A touching speech expressing deep friendship and admiration.

“I adore you I love you like my absolute brother, like my family.”
44:56

Surprise Cake Reveal

A humorous reveal of a unique birthday cake for Pete.

“But yeah, Pete Wicks, the birthday isn't over yet.”
45:59

Cabbage and Birthday Wishes

Discussion about the quirky birthday cabbage and making wishes.

“really is get you a cake that fits the occasion so happy birthday to Pete happy birthday to Pete happy birthday to Pete happy birthday to Pete it's a cabbage with 40 years old on it.”
49:26

Exclusive Bonus Episodes Announcement

Hosts announce exclusive bonus episodes available on Amazon Music.

“We wanted to let you know that you can hear exclusive bonus episodes of Staying Relevant every month on Amazon Music.”
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0:47This is the main episode, which means it's Monday, so you can watch that on Josh and Kira's YouTube channel from 5pm on Wednesday and then there'll be a bonus episode which comes out Thursday, which you can watch on Josh and Kira's YouTube channel from 5pm on Sunday which means you can catch us on a Catch us on a Monday, Wednesday, Thursday and also a Sunday Make sure you rate, review, do all of that crap you know the score by now there will be swearing if you don't like it go fuck yourself And it is, as I've already said, a special day if you're watching this you will see behind Peter's chair a princess balloon other way Oh, I didn't even notice Peter, I know you don't like celebrating your birthday, so we didn't go too above and beyond.

1:29Evidently. I mean, there's not celebrating it, and then there's just embarrassingly whacking a disformed woman behind my head. Is that Princess Peach? It can be anyone you want. We just thought we'd give you like a little something, just a nod. Just a little nod for your birthday. I couldn't decide whether like nothing was better, one small balloon or like a full studio deck. Is one worse than nothing? I can tell you what would be better. Nothing. Nothing would be better than that. No, sorry. Let me change that. Everything would be better than that. Josh picked it out. That makes sense now. But it's a solitary balloon because we know you don't really like celebrating it.

2:12But I feel like, you know, this is a year of news. And I feel like you may be sort of getting into the birthday spirit a little bit. Do you still hate your birthday? or are we sort of like edging towards, I don't mind it now? I absolutely despise my birthday. Every year I despise my birthday, but this year I'll be in Vegas. So. Well, yes, you bloody well will. You've been taken to Vegas by Liv, your beautiful girlfriend who I was with literally two nights ago. Well, that doesn't sound great. That sounded fucking awful. What a terrible thing to tell me on my birthday. I was just with your girlfriend two nights ago.

2:51you weren't there. And mate, so she's planned a big birthday surprise. You're going to be in Vegas. The sugar detox will be over. Are you excited? I cannot wait. I cannot wait to get out of here. Yeah, no, it's going to be good. We were in Vegas this time last year, all of us. So this time it will be, it will be different. But she's planned the whole thing. So she's booked the flights, the hotel. I don't know. I don't really know what we're doing. She's planned the entire thing. So this is almost the first birthday you've ever been excited for? Yeah, it's the first birthday that anyone's ever done anything.

3:29Wow, wow, wow. You don't like people doing things. It will be lovely. So, yeah, I honestly can't wait. I can't wait. Vegas is my favourite place. It's her favourite place. And we've never been together. So, yeah, it's going to be great. I'm very excited. Very excited. So even the itinerary is a surprise? Yeah. So you don't know anything about what's happening? Nope. Not a thing. Do you have an idea? I know. Because you like to be in control. I know. Yeah. But do you know what? Liv is very good at organising things. So she, between the two of us, we normally take it in turns to organise stuff because we're both very organised.

4:08We're not just kind of turn-uppy type people. And like, so she's very good at it. So whatever it's going to be, I know we'll be good. Do you know what's crazy? like in my head like even just seeing like pete just sort of like so where are we going now like to me that's crazy because he always knows where he's going like he always knows where he's going like he's always got an a to b wherever in a different country in this country whatever i can't imagine him going to be live being like so where now are you just gonna follow her we've obviously been on on a few holidays so she loves an itinerary so she's got an itinerary planned but normally I know what the itinerary is so this time I have no idea I know where we're staying but I don't really know much else it's going to be a bit of a struggle though because we've got her Halloween party the night before and then we're flying at 7am the next day that is an absolute and judging by my outfit for her Halloween party I'm going as Joker so I will be covered in green paint I imagine Jesus Christ all in my hair the lot yeah the two of us will probably turn up to the airport as the fucking Joker and Harley Quinn and still drunk I imagine as well 7am well we're going to try and be good but that's the break of the kind of alcohol proper alcohol detox will be Halloween and sugar detox so then it's then it's holiday mode it's lovely to see this man I don't think we've ever seen you fucking excited I mean God we've known you for well I've known you for fucking donkey's years now but like I've never seen you happy for your birthday?

5:39Like, excited. You're actually excited. Well, I'm happy for Vegas. And I'm happy for a holiday with a missus. The birthday part of it, meh. Yeah, it is what it is. But it just coincides that it's there. But, yeah. It's the second year in a row that I've had my birthday in Vegas. Yeah. That's insane. That's fucking nuts. Maybe that's the thing now. With your two favourite people, you know, you've had us staying relevant with you on your birthday. And you've got... Who's better? Who would you rather be with? Well, I mean, at the time of recording, I haven't been to Vegas, but I can tell you now it will be live.

6:14Yeah, I think you're right. But yeah, it's going to be good. So I think the day we get there is actually Halloween. So because we're of the time difference, so I think we're straight out and I think we're dressing up again. Bloody hell. Just the two of us. Don't say what, because this goes out the day after Halloween, so you might not have been able to post it yet. Well, I don't think we're going mad, mad out there, but I think we're doing something. Oh, obviously. I imagine I'll go as a cowboy. A cowboy. Or maybe a Joker cowboy, to be honest. I would have done Joker Night before. I think, you know, let's not milk the Joker, shall we?

6:54But also, we're a very specific Joker and Harley Quinn. It's a very specific outfit reference. I just have to put that out there because it's not just the standard. it's a very specific she's had someone making outfits and stuff so it's gonna be do you want me and Talia going Halloween as fish aren't you Lola and fucking thingy from Shark Tale Lola innit oh Oscar oh yeah yeah we don't look anything like Oscar and Lola what have you got outfits mate yeah cause I'm not gonna be here I'm gonna be in America and yeah if we look like fucking shit we've got cardboard fins you're going to see two very different Halloween outfits.

7:40Well, yeah. I mean, two lots of dress up is a lot for me for someone that doesn't like Halloween. Two nights on the bounce of dressing up is fucking, you know, it's a lot. It's quite overwhelming for me. The whole birthday, two lots of dressing up. Is there going to be a happy birthday son at Liv's Halloween birthday party? There probably is because it's going to be like... No, because it's her birthday. That's her event. Wow. I don't like the attention of the best at all, but that's her event. So it's irrelevant. My birthday is irrelevant at the best of times, let alone at her event. I might get in touch with Marvin, who's DJing, and just get him to do a little happy birthday shout.

8:18You would sink into the floor if he did that. Now that you said that, I will speak to Marvin as soon as he arrives. Just he's aware that it's Liv's event. But yeah, I mean, look, organising trips she's very, very good at. She does it quite a lot. So, yeah, it's going to be good. I am very excited to be in Vegas. I fucking love Vegas. Vegas makes me happy. Okay, if I couldn't take you to Vegas as your other half of your other half. No, again, that sounds weird. Just as the other, as your mate, right? If I were to try and take you away, but I couldn't go Vegas, but knowing you so well for your birthday, I think I would take you to Wyoming.

9:03Take you to a ranch. but I don't know if that's very birthday actually that's not really partying well let's do it if you had to organise a trip for the entire team okay for birthdays or just for a trip just a trip okay just a trip if you had to organise a trip where would you take staying relevant do I have to factor in personalities into this like you know Josh and his not drinking Pippa and her sort of just loves a party if you're organising a trip for the entire staying relevant team where would you take us and what are the plans I'd go Wyoming with us all because I really want to go and I think it'd be really, really fun for all of us.

9:35Imagine all of us in a horse line. Like, like just like, what this is saying to me is because this is somewhere that we all know that you really want to go. Yeah, but I just think we'd have a really good bonding experience as well. Like fishing. We'd all go fishing in the mountains. Go cattle rustling, cattle herding. Imagine Pippa in a Jodhpur's. You just said Pippa likes a party. Pete said account for the whole team. And then you've said fishing in Wyoming. All right, fucking fine. Okay. If I had to... Skiing could be quite fun. Skiing's not a bad one, actually. Not mad at that. Skiing would be a good one.

10:11Watching everyone, because Hannah, can you ski? Yeah, Hannah can ski. Pippa, can you ski? I've never done it. Those limbs. Pippa's limbs on a pair of skis would be so good. I'm going for the first time. We'll just get her them snowshoes and she can do her power walk. Yay! You know how they do it? She's got that action in the fucking bag. With the poles. You don't lift your feet off the fucking floor doing that either. So she's absolutely smashed that. I imagine you're an extremely good skier because you're so athletic. Well, he's so athletic, isn't he? Josh has got snowboard written all over him as well.

10:44Drums, snowboard. Annalisa loved the outfit choices. Could be a photo shoot. But listen, it's not, you know, it's not all about me. There's another birthday happening in November. Oh, God, yeah. My missus' birthday. Yes, your missus's birthday. Oh, God, November the 14th. It's coming up quick. You haven't got long left. So big plans, I imagine? I'm not going to be here. I'm not going to be here for a birthday. I'm going to be in Australia. But I am flying her out to Australia. So that's kind of, we can spend like... So if you're not going to be here for a birthday, big presents planned? I think there'll have to be a big present.

11:19Already sorted it? No, not yet. Thought about it. I was probably going to ask your opinion, actually, but maybe not on the pod. But yeah, just... No, do it right now. I don't know. No, get Pete's advice now for sure. Okay, fuck it. Right. Well, it'd only been a couple of months last year. So what did you do last year? Last year I got a necklace from Chopin, which is like a... Chopin. It's a nice necklace company, I think. Should we come need girls? Do we like Chopin? Never heard of, so it must be nice. Well, that's great. Chopin. What a great start. No, Chopin's fine jewelry. It's nice. That's what I mean.

11:46I haven't heard of it. None of us are surprised you've not heard of Chopin. Generally, it's funny, actually, because I was literally going to ask you off camera, be like, what do you think I should do? but here we are we're on camera um i don't know because sure do i material stuff i feel like can get a little bit dicey because then it's just like and expensive and expensive but i feel like there's got to be some element of material but also some element of like i understand who you are as a person yeah but i think it's irrelevant whether it's material it's what what does she want that she wouldn't get herself that's what it is and if that is material then it's material there is thought behind getting a present regardless of whether it's expensive or cheap or it doesn't matter.

12:31It's something that someone wouldn't get themselves and something you haven't had to ask them about. It's something that you know that they will love. Oh, that's a great question. So actually, it doesn't matter if it is material like, you know, your missus, my missus, very different sort of people. So it's something that they either can't get themselves, won't get themselves or, and something that shows you put thought in and you put working to get it. Yeah. It's putting the work in, isn't it really? I suppose, you know, cause I've made mistakes prior where I've just like, I've done things that haven't been very romantic and they've more just be like a financial thing.

13:11So I want to sort of like mix the two in, I think, but yeah, maybe like, I don't know. I don't know. I genuinely don't. I need to ask her without like being too like, what do you want? Well, yeah, no, you can't, I mean, you can't ask you. This is when it comes to occasions, I always think like birthdays, Christmas, them sort of things. The prep starts months in advance. Oh God, I've only got a month. That's not good. I've been working on Liv's Christmas presents since June. Jesus Christ. Do you know what? The problem is, is that she never really says what she wants. So like, she's never like in passing is like, oh, I really love that.

13:46Or, or we want to do this. so I'd be just, it'd be a shot in the dark. Well, no, you know her. But she doesn't even, she's a bit like you. Do you know what? Tally's really similar to you on her birthday. Like, she hates her birthday. I offered to, like, get all of her mates for dinner and I was like, why don't we bring all your mates together for dinner and I'll book a really nice restaurant and she was like, no, I can't think of anything worse. I was like, what the fuck? She was like, yeah, Pippa literally looked at me like she was crazy to think. Well, you know, I mean, you can take this out.

14:14What about... Right, okay. beep all of that out so it seems like it's my idea. Do you know what I mean? Because that's a fucking class idea. That's a fucking class idea. But it's something that you haven't had to ask her but she loves that sort of stuff and then set her up in the spare room upstairs where she's got all the Twitch station. This is Taddy's fucking room. Right. That is literally what I am doing. I'm going to let you all know how to go. Click that up and put it out afterwards. Yeah, yeah. Put it out afterwards. But do you know what I mean? I know that's expensive but you haven't got to ask her.

14:45No, but it means something. But it's something that she loves. She loves, well, she's said to me that she loves it. She does love all that. But she doesn't get a chance to do it. So do it. She would literally be like, how the fuck do you know about all I'm getting excited? But she's doing all the Twitch stuff. But why don't you set her up like Taddy's fucking station? This is going to be class. I'm going to do a good deed. Oh, man, I can't wait. Oh, well done. See, this is why you asked Pete. Can I just say something really quickly? If you ever need advice on anything girls, right, I've never gone to anyone.

15:15Yeah, ask the bloke who's been single 38 years. No, but that's not the point, no. It's not the point. It just, I knew when I was driving in today, I went, God, I need to ask Pete about what I should get Sally for a birthday. And that probably makes me sound like a shit boyfriend, but I'm just not very good at that kind of stuff. Can I ask you a question? Just, mate, feel free to answer this. You know, like, on a slightly more emotional one, how does it feel to, like, go into a birthday with a girlfriend that you actually, like, love and adore? and you're like, it's because it's just different.

15:46You haven't been out of a girlfriend for years. It's, the birthday part genuinely is irrelevant for me. It's like a milestone though, isn't it? Well, I just don't like. Oh, as he said that, the fucking balloons just fucking gracefully fallen down. Well, that's why. Yeah. It just gets better. So embarrassing. It just gets better. Just for anyone listening, that's brown duct tape that's just sort of like melted off the sofa. um the birthday part of it for for me i don't know but i never will it's just not a good time for me but i love the fact that she's taken to my favorite place staying in my favorite theater i didn't ask i didn't expect anything from her but it means that i get to spend a few days with her so that's what i'm excited about and the fact that she knows that i don't like birthdays so she's done something for us that's small she's not like done it for herself she's not done like you know because she loves a party like you know what i mean like she she launches a new fucking product every week and has a launch for it like she loves an event and a party so the fact that she knows that i don't that i don't like that and she's she's just doing something for us which is really nice so yeah that means more to me than than anything else it's the fact we've I've had a really long fucking working year and it's just going to be really nice to have a couple of days just to have a blowout with, with my person.

17:11Yeah. So yeah. So that's, that's what's really nice. But, um, because the, the, go on. What happens if Liv has organized, you know, when you sit at that table and like someone comes up with a Macarena, whatever they're called, and then she's organized one of them. Mariachi band. mariachi band while she's sitting at dinner and it's like happy birthday but we know from previous experience that I love a mariachi band oh yeah so beyond the moon fine what if it's like what if she's got like the whole restaurant but do you know things like that would be funny because it's people I don't know yeah yeah yeah so and it's she knows that like me and I would take the piss out of that if I turn up there and there's 20 people that I know all sat around a table singing surprise I'll leave your accountant I can't Darren Fowler Darren Fowler would be that in Vegas it fucking wouldn't surprise me because he'd be like you're gonna fucking put that card away so but yeah like the thought of like a surprise birthday makes me want to wither and die I could not think of anything worse than that like I would and it's not not even one of them things i wouldn't walk in right you walk in i'd walk back out would you act no no no you want a bit i would you could have what there's 40 of your mates right i would and then i'd message them all and say i'll see you tomorrow night when it ain't me fucking birthday that's so funny i just surprise do you know what's funny i'd be sitting there going i told him but do you but do you know what the thing is but will you be sitting there so you'd have told him but you'd still turn up um but but the thing is it's like because then you start your your birthday then becomes about doing things for other people.

19:02It's the one day a year I don't want to do things for other people. I want to do what I want to do, which is fuck all. So, yeah, I'd fucking, I would absolutely hate it. It's the same as like, you know, I don't really fucking, you get people on Instagram, it's my birthday weeks, my birthday months and all the other fucking shut up. No one cares. What do you think about when people repost stories that other people have posted about them for their birthday on their own Instagram story? I hate it. You know, and it's literally like, and I've never understood. I couldn't do that. It's like people, it's like the self gratification when people go like, people do a story and then you repost it.

19:36But also it's like, it's incredible, isn't it? You see someone's birthday and there's 22 stories on their stories of people saying, God, I get to do life with you. How many people are you doing life with? How many best mates have you got? Like, do you know what I mean? Like, and it's like, I've known you 17 years. Well, I've known you 20 years. Well, I've known, fuck off, all of you. because it becomes about who knows this person the best. How many best mates do you reckon or like super close friends do you think one should have? It depends on who you are. Best friends are a liberal term, isn't it?

20:16Like, you know. Everyone's now a best friend. Yeah, it means a lot of things. It's who can you rely on if you needed them. It's not who you see the most. It's not who you spend the most or who you have the best time with. It's who would actually be there if you had nothing. that's what a best friend is and that's someone that you it could be someone you haven't seen in 20 years yeah you know what i mean like i but it's someone that's always the same whenever you see them what do you think about people who um who always go through different groups of best friends you know and like someone's always in a fight with one of their new friends and then they ice them and then they got another best friend like i've i've met quite a few people have you ever met someone like that and they're literally like there's always an argument with the best friend and suddenly you're in a different friendship group and now they're your best friend and then you're all over social media with that best friend.

20:59That's called flavour of the month. Do you know what I mean? That's literally what that is, isn't it? They're magpie people. Magpie people find new shiny things and then get obsessed with them and then discard them when something new and shiny comes along. It's who benefits them. This might be a little bit rogue. I always find it's most of girls who are like that, who literally go from one friend to the next friend. But I think that's because men make less effort to find shiny things. They'll have a shiny thing and they'll go, that'll do me. It might not be the best, but that'll do. That's a good one.

21:33I'll keep hold of that one. So, yeah, so I'm off and I'm very excited about it. But I'm not the only one that is going to be off because you are off a lot. But you've got LA first. But after that, the big off, Australia. But I'm a celeb unpacked. how are you feeling about heading back there to your stomping ground god it really is the stomping ground now isn't it it's it's fucking well you've been sort of every year for the past three haven't you i know yeah it's it makes it gets better every single time it's more exciting every single time like it's tiring because you're up at midnight every single day and you're in bed at 4 p.m it feels it's such a weird thing because you literally have to go to bed when the sun's blazing outside and the australian sun's quite nice you barely get to see any of it but like so the times are like tough but mate I love it I can't wait it's going to be amazing have you got any inside knowledge for us on the room I only know one person I know one person going in there say it and we'll bleep it out but that one person you know I get a phone call since I did it I've had a phone call every year from somebody who's doing it just to be like tell me what it's like and all that kind of stuff I had GK Barry the first time and who else I had someone last year oh god that's awful that I can't remember someone as well last year and um and it's funny because everyone gets i think doing the jungle is one of the most terrifying experiences to go and do because you have no idea how you're going to be like every time i ask you what you'd be like when you do it you're literally like i would kill someone and i feel like a lot of people are in that boat a lot of people like what am i going to be like when i'm locked in a confined space with 12 other people what what advice do you give to people then i always i had the same advice every single time i go one you're gonna get the cameras there immediately two uh don't worry about doing the trials doesn't matter trials don't matter like the only one person or maybe two go and do the trials you're probably never going to do a trial until the very end so just enjoy being around the fucking fireplace the fuck mate the camp is the best bit because no one can leave it sounds like the worst no it's fucking great like for example if let's say pete was doing the jungle this year and and and i knew that pete was going to do the jungle and i was going to do it as well i'd be over the moon i would know pete couldn't go anywhere so like so imagine that you're literally contractually obliged to be around a fit and the camp is small and so you're literally no more than two meters away from somebody else at all times camp is where it's at mate and that's where i think you make all your memories and stuff and that's what i always say and the second thing I say is never get in an argument don't bother it's not worth it play it safe you know when people go like you know when people like argue it happens in Big Brother I think a lot more but you know when people argue and some people like try and get involved and it's not their argument to get involved and they try and be like the peace brother guys come on come on guys I'm always like no let him fight out let him hash it out and just sit in the corner like there's no need to be that guy and then other than that just go and enjoy it and then obviously you know you keep going back to Australia.

24:46She obviously love it. What's the one thing that you can't wait to do when you're back in Australia? Do you know what? The one thing I really want to do that I have, I bet there's an amazing massage place actually and the woman loves me there now. I get a rub down literally every, maybe every other day. So you get that done before your bird gets there, Will? Yes. No, I don't get a handy. Well. I just get, I get a really, it's called a Swedish massage. A rub down, yeah, yeah, I bet it is. She's fucking great. Yeah. She's called Ursula. She's amazing. So the one thing that you're most excited about going back to Australia for is Ursula.

25:19Oh, I've seen her for three years straight, man. She's class. Okay, all right. It's going to be so good. Of all the things in Australia, it's a massage. Can I tell you what I really want as well? And I've never done this out there because I've been too scared to ask, but I think I might do it this year. I'm going to ask Annette Deck if they want to play golf. Right. Yeah. I've mentioned it before. They'll be like, yeah, yeah, yeah. Well, you can ask them if you crash one of their dinners with their wives. I get along really well with Deck's family. and Ant's family too to be fair and so I'm really looking forward to hopefully clashing a few of their dinners but if I could play some golf with them that would be like a real I don't know how lame my life seems right now but that would be Golf and a massage Long way to go for golf and a massage It would be a bucket list thing to play golf Your missus is going to be going out there I'm flying her out but I'm only flying her out for the last 10 days because I need to bed in first Do you know what I mean by that?

26:10Yes I need to get my feet on the ground I need to get my work right. Because, man, I've never hosted a show like this before. It's you and Kemi, yeah? It's me and Kemi, yeah. Nice. You obviously worked together before. What's she like as a co-host? She's fucking great. She's really, mate, she's proper. Do you know what she is? She's proper. Like, she's old school presenter. It's really nice because I'm a little bit more avant-garde, I think, and I'm just a bit more chaotic. So it's a really nice mix. But, Pete, I've never done a hosting thing like that before in my life. So what are you most nervous about?

26:43The first link. The first hello and welcome to. Why? Mate, you just know. It's... And it's going to be like, oh, no. And that just sets the tone. You're years into OQ now. You'll be fine. Yeah, but you know I overthink. And so you know I'll be sitting there. And do you know what? I want you to watch it. I know you're not going to watch it anymore, but just watch the first opening of the first show. Because I want you to watch me. Because you know me so well. You're going to watch me. I'm just staring. we'll maybe we'll do a stay in relevant watch party we could do a little stay in relevant watch party and you'll know exactly what's going through my head on that first link and the terror is gonna be there so when Tally gets out there you've got 10 days with Tally 10 days with Tally what's the plans for you and Tally well I'm actually gonna take a sightseeing I'm gonna rent a car which is gonna be kind of nice she's gonna drive is she?

27:36she can't drive neither can you fuck no come on come on we've been driving a little bit recently Yes. Come on. Yes, we have been driving quite a bit recently. It's not bad. Well, I mean, but you're going to be driving in another country. Yeah, that's always terrifying. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Do you know what she does all the time? They're quite wild. She does this at the moment all the time. She goes, I'm in the car. I'm like, what do you mean? Why do you forget? No, no, but I think she does it to like slow me down. Right. If I'm ever driving like slightly, not like, I'm driving legally, but if I'm ever just like, you know, like getting a little bit of road rage, she goes, I'm in the car.

28:07So what, a bit of sightseeing, like what? What do we fancy doing? She's made the beaches there are fucking phenomenal. Beaches, nice. So, so good. There's a really, really cool bar, actually, I want to take her to as well. There's a lovely lunch and dinner spot that I want to go to as well. Maybe take her to go see Ursula. Yeah, a little rubdown. Why not? This is, yeah. Telly, I'm taking you for a rubdown with my bird, Ursula, who, three years into this relationship we are. Mate, she's jacked as well. Ursula's jacked. Hi, Ursula. Hope you're well, darling. Look after Sam whilst he's out there.

28:39Some of the girls actually out there do listen to the pool because they ask me about you all the time. Some of the Aussies, yeah. Some of the girls, how many Aussie girls do you know out there? What have you been doing? There's quite, there's quite a few. I feel like it's going to be another one to tell. He's going, I'm here. There's quite a few different massage girls. It's like a parlor. And so like loads of, what? It's literally a very legit above board massage place. It's got an ice bath. But they, but a lot of the Aussies there listen to this very podcast. So shout out to them. And they always ask about what you're like.

29:14And quite a few of them fancy you. Shout out to the masseuses in Australia.

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29:59Obviously, you're going to be away for quite a bit. What are you going to miss most about the UK? hey, very unlikely. We've spent fucking two months together now. That doesn't bother me. What will you miss most other than the cats? You. No. The thing is, can I explain to you why? Because we, mate, we've spent so many years and so many fucking days together, like over the past two months specifically. Mate, it's like my common ground now is to wake up, like have a moan, because we love a moan. And then like, it's genuinely, I love, you know, I'm a man of routine. And like, it's going to be weird.

30:40Mate, it's going to be weird. I know you won't care, but it's going to be weird for me not being around you for like, at all. So how are you going to, what do you think your Australian morning routine is going to be? Mate, it's not really a morning. It's midnight, isn't it, when you wake up. So wake up. Well, it will become your morning. Call home. I call home every morning, actually. Every morning I call home because it's a normal time at that point. in fact I think it's evening when you wake up so call home may give you a bell I've called Pippa a few times when I've been in Oz actually yeah you don't you're not as aware of the time difference when I get those calls I seem to remember last year a call home because that's a good time wasn't something we thought about it was call when I want to and they'll wake up quite a few missed calls I'd wake up to I don't think the time difference was an issue for you last year.

31:33It was all cool whenever the fuck I like. I genuinely get quite home sick. I love my cats. I love my home. I love you. I know you don't believe about this. Gaming? You're going to have no gaming? No, I'm bringing my... No, no, no, mate. Whoa, whoa, whoa. Yeah, what are Bodger and Badger going to do? No, I'm bringing... Oh. I'm bringing my PlayStation. You're flying your PlayStation out there? Fuck yeah. PlayStation 5 is going to be plugged in. It's got great internet access to places we live in. Yeah, PlayStation coming out with me, mate. Bring my Nintendo Switch. What other kind of home conference would you take out there?

32:03Do you take pictures of your missus out there? Will you take sort of pictures of the cats? Do you put them up on the sort of the mental piece in wherever you're staying? Not really. Do you have a blankie? I might take one of her, she's got toys.

32:19She's got like, not toys. Oh, fuck. I bet, Pippa, you sleep with a toy in a bit. Ursula, don't worry, I've bought me home.

32:32yeah anything else out there i mean we know that you're taking it very seriously because you're spending a lot of time worrying about clothing oh my god yeah so literally so yesterday so i've had to i've been told that um i need a stylist um i don't know how to take that but there we are how it's intended and uh i've been put in touch from uh from what i understand quite a reputable stylist and um and it's funny because i was talking about how me and people working together yesterday was talking about her and Pete goes, oh, I know her. Because Pete is a stylish guy. He lives in that sort of world.

33:04And he was like, God, she's got to work out for you. But Pete actually knows the stylist that I'm using for that. So if you want to give her a bell, maybe, mate, and just let her know what I'm like, what I do like, what I don't like. Oh, I think I should leave that for a surprise for her. But last year and previously, you kind of went with give me a Joel. Yeah. What are you going with this year? Have you got any ideas? Because, you know, a stylist will need some sort of inspo into what you're kind of looking for. Presumably the first thing on the list is blue. I actually spoke to her on the phone for the first time yesterday.

33:38Yeah. And I said to her, I just want to look slightly more cool. That is the brief that I gave her. No colours. And I went, no shackets. The one rule I had was don't put me in a fucking shacket. But a shacket can look good. I can't do it, mate. It screams morning telly. and it's just like I don't want to do that so what are we what are we kind of hoping for I mean if you were to style yourself on a presenter of a similar ilk who would it be I like Demo O 'Leary he looks fucking great so a morning presenter yeah yeah but he rocks it he looks so you know he looks fucking cool like his club is great so alright okay but I mean do you want to go a little bit out there it's a different sort of show well if needs be you know what I mean if needs be what about one of those you know sometimes I like a little tank toppy jumper.

34:29What do you think about that? A vest? Yeah, but like a sweater vest. That was a no. You just knowed me right there. Well, you're in Australia. Obviously, I've been there. It's quite hot. I'm not sure a knitted vest is the go-to. Like the one I wore the O2? Yeah. Or the really bad one, the light blue one. When you're selling out the O2 at eight, but you've got gym at fucking six. yeah I mean what is your fascination with the vest I don't really know actually it's a really good point it just seems a bit avant-garde what's your fascination with that word I don't know just out there alright well listen we're all excited make sure when you watch Sam on Unpacked you comment about the outfits I would say we maybe do an outfit of the day type rating system nice yeah nice and we can look at it across the we'll ask you to maybe send us videos.

35:24Yeah, yeah, yeah. Maybe if we could just get some Sam Thompson Get Ready With Me's and we can look at these. Are we doing anything in terms of styling, grooming? Just a haircut, really. Just a haircut. And what about the beard? Maybe a beard dye. It might go back to a bit of darker. Maybe a bit darker. Going to go darker? Darker for Australia. Are we keeping the same style? Are you going to transfer new beards? I don't know. Maybe Korean Oz. I might give myself a tash. A little goatee or something? You know, maybe I'll get a little tash out there. Maybe grow it out. go a little bit kind of wash the gays.

35:54Oh, you're giving me ideas now. Well, just saying, you know, if you want to go avant-garde, mix it up a bit. Maybe I've got down will. Mate, I am nervous. I'm nervous. It's going to be one hell of a sort of ride. I've never been out there for a month and host something like that. So I'm very, very excited. And to be honest with you as well, you know, I feel like I should be sort of like, I'm sort of following your footsteps a little bit, mate, you know. This is kind of the thing that you've done quite a lot recently. You know, you present your own show, host your own stuff. So I'll be looking and taking tips from you, mate.

36:27It's very unlikely you'll be taking tips from me because I just say hello, puppy, all the time. So I feel that would be weird when you get guests on. Hello, puppy. You're my favourite. Well, actually, let's talk about that for a sec. Season 4, for Dog's sake, obviously been coming out each week this month. And seeing as it's Pete Wicks' birthday, even though he doesn't like to say it is, the team at Dogs Trust, they wanted in on the birthday action so they had sent you a little message is that on my phone is it that's quite a good fucking segue hello Pete happy birthday from all of us at Dogs Trust Basildon wishing you a wonderful day happy birthday to you happy birthday to you happy birthday to you Happy birthday to you Yay!

37:20Yay!

37:24Well, that was true Dog Trust Basildon style. Thank you so much for that. It does look like they've all been held hostage. It came through and I was like, perfect. They made their own sort of trumpets and party hats, which I really enjoy, and the confetti. So nice, really happy with that. Cheryl, if you listen to this, I'd just like to point out that you look like you want to be anywhere but in that video. But love that, love that. Very nice. We're happy with that. My favourite was the... Sounds like Pingu. Loved Pingu, by the way. Didn't see that coming. Pingu was absolutely great. The miserable dad of Pingu that just has a guy.

38:12It's fucking great Pingu. Before we move on to something else, actually, can I just ask you, what other cartoons have you watched as a kid? What were you into? Really enjoyed Top Cat. Top Cat was a good one. Top Cat. That doesn't surprise me at all. I never even watched Top Cat. Top Cat. Very peak. Yeah, Top Cat was really good. Ed, Ed and Eddie or something like that. Nex's Lab. No, not all that bullshit. Didn't mind a bit of Hey Arnold. Oh, a bit of Hey Arnold. Hey, football head. And then other than that, it was EastEnders. Peter Ford mum, Paul fucking EastEnders yeah, yeah, yeah we've only got an hour left of TV time we have to get back in the cell but look mate, we haven't actually finished with the birthday messages oh fuck mate no, I think you're going to quite like this one there's one individual who was also involved in for dog's sake and we simply couldn't leave them out so here is another quick message I'm not going to say who it is I think you're going to quite like this one this is already ridiculous I can see it already do.

39:14All right, dad. Happy birthday. How old are you again? 40, 41. You never bloody remember, do you? Anyway, hope you're having the best time in Vegas. Love you loads, even if you have gone and got me two new sisters. Not going to lie, I'm still getting used to that. Used to have all your attention and now I've got competition. Hope you're not coming empty handed. I want a present and not some rubbish little souvenir either. Get me some treats, a new toy, something decent. I've been a good boy. I deserve it. Rodney everybody it's the accent we couldn't quite nail down they only have certain voices we sort of went with Rob Beckett what did you pick?

39:55Annoying little twat we wanted like Cockney old man but there's like pre-programmed voices you have to go for I mean what are we talking about it's just the voice Rodney put on when we asked him to record it. Kind of the answer that Pete would knock out. Yeah, very, very nice. He's getting rehomed after that message. Oh, well, that's lovely. Little Rodney, who doesn't love a bit of AI. Can I ask you this? What? That's like one of them videos. Do you know what it is? It's like one of them videos. You've seen them things of like showing your mum whether it's a real thing and me going, well, he's never said that to me.

40:32If I showed that to my mum, she'd go, oh, how have you taught him that? See, there's a cat like playing and playing the guitar. Yeah, on a tricycle. He's fucking saying that, Kat. What do you think Rodney would say if he could say one word? If just one word, what do you think it would be? In English. In English, what would he say? Yeah. The first thing he'd say. Do you know what I'd hope he'd say? Thanks. What do you think he'd say? Food. Yeah. Or fuck off. He's in that, he's a year old now. It's Rodney's birthday. But he's just been mounting me. He's not been mounting you. He's just excited and you're not a dog person.

41:17He's a fucking dog. He's big. He's big. But he's, yeah, it was his birthday. So he's a year now as well. So it's another birthday. Maybe I'll record a video to show him and he'll go, what an annoying voice. but yeah it's his birthday as well so he's in a stubborn mode so he'd probably yeah he'd just probably say fuck off at the minute Peter this is an incredibly tough act to follow we've had Dogstrass who I know very close to your heart and Rodney as well who is your son dragging this out aren't we how the fuck to follow that but what I would say if I could just take this time say a few words I'm going to try and not fall off my chair this time I adore you I love you like my absolute brother, like my family.

42:08And you are, it's funny, you were saying something earlier where you said friendships, it doesn't matter how many you've got, it's how many you can rely on. And I know that even if I speak to you every day, if I didn't speak to you for a year and we had a massive falling out and you hate me and I hate you and that can happen. Even if that happens, I know that in two years time, 10 years time, I could call you up at any point and be like, I need help. If there's one man who'd be there, I know from the bottom of my heart it'd be you and you would drop everything. You'd be there in an absolute flash.

42:42And I think that is the testament to the man you are. And I think you are one of the very, very few in this world who is so humble that you don't sometimes see how great of a person you are. And I look, Vicky Patterson said it before and loads of people have said it, but I don't think I've ever told you. And I feel a bit bad about that. You are an incredibly special person, mate. And I find myself attracted to, that sounds weird. I fucked it again. Please let me land. I find myself always drawn to strong guys. And no, please let me land. No, please. Because I do. And there's a reason for that.

43:29There's a million Sams out there in the world. there really really are there's a million annoying little fuckers well there aren't many in this world are Pete Wicks's and a Pete Wicks angry man no it's not a Pete Wicks is a man who has morals stands up for what he believes is right and who also is good as I said is is incredibly loyal gonna be there no matter what but also has a heart of absolute gold and you and and you hide it underneath an exterior because you've had a life that you know as has made you have a hard exterior you have a fucking gooey center mate and i know i say it all the time but actually you're one in the fucking billion and and and and and you're an incredibly special human being to me to pippa to josh to everyone in this fucking room mate to live um who has clearly seen how beautiful of a soul you are mate and i always say there are some people who are drainers and some people who are heaters mate you are an absolute heater and i wake up every morning when we're film this thing together and I go I can't wait to go and see him even when you're angry um I adore you I genuinely I cannot tell you enough if you ever were in I hope you know this if you ever in any sort of problem trouble or anything I would just be there for you just like you are for me mate and I can't imagine doing life without you I physically can't imagine it it wouldn't be wouldn't be worth doing mate so I love you and happy birthday I don't know if that was any good my boy that was so nice I wouldn't leave it 10 years because I'd be dead yeah but I meant every word of that and I get nervous when I say I'm not very good at speeches but that's well that was a very good speech that's what happened one thing I'd like to pick up on is your attraction to strong men no I didn't I meant like no I know what you meant do you know what I mean I do know what you meant yeah but there's a million of me mate and there's not a million of you you know that as well.

45:24You're a one of a kind man. But yeah, Pete Wicks, the birthday isn't over yet. Oh, fuck me. By the time you lot fucking finish, it'll be my next fucking birthday. It actually will be my 40th. We know the princess balloon may have deflated, but we know you're on a sugar detox right now. So, and I, do you know what? Very kindly, Pippa said I could take the, I didn't know this was happening, by the way. This is a team thing. They have actually got you a very special cake. as I said you're going to be in Vegas the sugar detox is nearly at an end so we thought the only thing they could do really is get you a cake that fits the occasion so happy birthday to Pete happy birthday to Pete happy birthday to Pete happy birthday to Pete it's a cabbage with 40 years old on it.

46:24He's been mugged off so hard. You got me a fucking cabbage. And why? So you've got the 40 candles. Why stick in a load more candles that you haven't lit? I'm going to be honest with you, mate. Ask Pippa. She came up with a second. Great. Happy birthday. Here's the wrong age and a burning cabbage. What the fuck is that? Right. So do I make a wish? Yeah. You've got to tell us the wish. No, you can't do that. Everyone knows on the birthday cabbage, you can't say the wish. What could I wish for?

47:00Can we take guesses of what you'd wished? Right, who's got a knife? Who wants a piece? Oh, Pippa's gluten intolerant. I can get involved on this one. Watch that one. What are you doing? Is that the slowest? Why are you handing it away? Isn't it the most perfect cabbage? I literally opened it this morning. It is so spherical. It is not. I do hear what you're saying. It's so scary. At least you took time to pick the right cabbage. No, I swear to God, it's perfect. Where'd you get it from? M &S. The fuck? Oh, it's an M &S cabbage. M &S. Oh, excellent. Got that in the business. That's a 75 pound cabbage.

47:34If I'd have known it was M &S, I'd have been more appreciative. Thank you so much. It's genuinely perfect. Go and put that in the fucking bin. Put it on his desk. Put it on his desk. Put it on his desk. Put it on his desk. Yeah, put it on me desk. Put it in the drawer. Because my desk seems to have become crap corner. thanks Annalise yeah it's on there with some caution tape at the minute oh he's got caution tape as well nice no just the role on his just the role well listen what a what a very I mean it's tough to say but what an incredibly special episode you're speechless yeah yeah I am speechless how do you top that well Vegas gonna be shit yeah how do you top that I don't know maybe go red cabbage ooh how do you top that go for a walk thank you so much for listening guys and please remember to give Pete a very lovely happy birthday on his Instagram he loves nothing more than getting flooded with messages online about his birthday so please do remember to like and comment on his page and wish him a very merry happy birthday like and comment on my last post which I think was in September ta-da see you later bitches this has been a Staying Relevant production

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It's Pete's birthday! 🎉 Although celebrating with someone who hates their birthday is never easy...


For the second year running, Pete's off to Vegas, but this time Liv has planned the whole trip and he's got absolutely no idea what's in store. What we do know is that the Joker is making an appearance, along with another Halloween outfit...


Meanwhile, Sam's gearing up for Australia to host I'm A Celeb: Unpacked and reveals what he's most looking forward to. Plus, with Tally's birthday falling while he's away, Pete steps in to help with the present planning.


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