135: James Buckley on the Inbetweeners

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1:47Oh my god. Here we go. Okay, ready? One, two, three. You don't need to count this in every week. one two three oh you're counting in yeah cheers lads cheers oh fucking hell Pete cheers it don't be a dick this is like the shittiest stag do ever cheers Peter fucking hell let's just get a little bit froth in there sorry oh right Sam crack on okay

2:19oh I haven't had a Stella in years I don't feel like you've ever had a Stella yeah I don't think I've ever had a Stella from a cat no no no No, you don't strike me as a stellar drinker. Well, here we go. Welcome to Staying Relevant, the podcast hosted by two best friends with a couple of bevies in hand as well. Yeah, that's right. We are drinking the nectar. Me, Sam Thompson and Peter James, Jonathan Joseph Wicks. Jesus Christ, if you just tuned in, then I'm sure you're going to realise this is probably going to be horrendous now that Sam is drinking Stella. I will be swearing, if you don't like it, go f*** yourself.

2:52Make sure you rate, review, do all of that shit. This is a main episode, which means it's Monday. So you'll be able to watch this on Josh's YouTube channel on a Wednesday. And then we'll do the bonus episode on Thursday, which you can watch on a Sunday, which means that you can catch us on a... Monday, Wednesday, Thursday, Sunday. Why do we all point to James? Oh, no. Oh, see, you can't. That's the worst intro ever. We've got a guest, everybody. Yes, that is right. We are joined by somebody who we have wanted in this studio for a very long time, actually. Is that true? It is very true, mate. He's lying.

3:25No, I'm not. I'm actually not lying. I know you're lying. I'll tell you why you're lying in a second. Oh, shit. But I don't want to, because I feel like you're about to big me up. I don't want to interrupt that. Well, his only rider today was a can of beer. It's Mr. James Buckley, everybody. I'm clapping myself. What's the reason you were going to say? Well, because, right, because I've got a podcast, which I... Your podcast royalty, mate. Well, my manager's there and she's going to remind me to mention that I've got a podcast. So I'll get it out of the way first of all. But you know what it's like?

4:00When you've got a podcast, you've got to go on other people's podcasts to try and tell other people that you've got a podcast. Nine times out of ten, I don't want to do that. I don't want to do it. And this is... Thanks for being here. No, no. So here you go. So here you go. This is the only... And Katie's there and she'll back me up. This is the only one where they go, you need to do more. You need to tell more people about the podcast. I was like, well, can I get on that? Staying relevant. Oh, no. way. There you go. It's the only podcast I've ever asked to be on. Well, and you've... Oh, don't you're going to make me cry.

4:29Because your stuff comes up on my Instagram all the time, all your clips and I go, oh God. It's fucking annoying, isn't it? No, it's great. I go, oh, they seem like a laugh. They're really funny. So you can imagine my disappointment. I was just about to say, and how is it for you? I mean, I'm going to be honest with you. You're the only person that when it comes to a rider, just ask for a can of Stella. So we got you singularly just one. It's medicinal, Stella. It's all part of my process. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, I mean, when you say it's medicinal, Stella, that makes it sound like you have a problem, I'm going to be honest with you.

4:56No, it's not. I just need to stop the shakes and function. It's just for anxiety. Yeah. Which is also why Pete is suddenly perked up massively as well. Because I've got a friend, baby. Well, I used to drink all the time on the pod and then it started becoming an issue because I was the only one. And then people just looked at me sort of in a kind of a sad, okay, kind of way. So now when someone comes on and wants a drink, I'm more than happy to oblige. and then Sam gets involved. I did see your eyes light up when I said I was having a beer. Yeah, yeah. Give it about an hour and they'll dull back down again.

5:28Slightly bloodshot and I have got a lazy eye so one goes for a walk. You know as well, we used to have a bottle of vodka on the side. That's when it was getting real dark. Yeah, just when you need a perk. A bottle of Glenn. Just to take the edge off. Exactly. Just to relax a bit. It's mainly just to take the edge off Sam. That's kind of what I do. It just puts me on the same kind of level, you know playing field otherwise it's the light and shade is too much you guys you guys actually now I'm now I'm seeing you in the flesh mate you guys are actually very similar and you're both born in Dagnum Darj Nam the Nam you're born in Dagnum I wasn't born in Dagnum I wasn't born no I wasn't born in Dagnum either no I don't know what I'm saying so awesome so neither of us were born in Dagnum we are very similar why do you know what you said that with such confidence that I was like oh yeah but I know where I was born who was in Dagnam I was born in Croydon I moved to Dagnam south of the river moved to Dagnam before I was two my family moved me to Dagnam I don't know whereabouts in Dagnam just across the road from Fords oh yeah yeah yeah so like my nan lived in like Naseby Road which is literally at the back of Fords but the NAM is fucking amazing it's good we like the NAM I'll tell you what I don't have anything to say so I just I feel like that's what you'd say from Dagden, isn't it?

6:50That's it. Yeah, tell you what. Yeah, that's what you'd say. Fuck you, Neil. Fuck you, Neil. I'll fucking tell you what, boys. But, mate, you do a – this isn't just your podcast. It's your podcast with your wife, isn't it? You're a podcast duo. Yeah. That's like us. Yeah, that's right. Yeah. So I'm not an interesting guy. I think the only interesting – I think you are, mate. The only interesting and amusing thing about me is my relationship with my wife, Claire, because she's Scottish. I think that's all you need to know. That's where we're at. She's got that very, she's got a great sense of humour and she's absolutely brilliant, but she's got that very Scottish, they just don't take idiots.

7:30They're just not up for idiots, right? If you're a fool, they'll let you know that you're a fool. And she's married the biggest fool on the planet. She's made an exception. So my favourite thing in the world is to wind her up and she doesn't like to be wound up. and I just wanted to sort of capture that and that relationship and we'll see how it goes. We'll see how long it lasts. Are you talking about the pod or the marriage? Just all of it. All of it. Where in Scotland is she from? Just outside Glasgow. Oh, fuck, yeah. She's Glaswegian. She's proper Scottish. Yeah, the Glaswegians, they don't fuck about, yeah.

8:03What's it like working with your wife? I mean, I struggle. I like it. I like it. She's, you know, she's my favourite person on the planet. I absolutely love it. Like mine. Not your wife. Sorry. Sorry. As in Pete is my favourite person on the planet. I feel like we've got a lot of, we've only just started. I feel like we've got a lot of similarities here though, to be fair. Because, you know, I like to do the exact same thing. Pete, he's my favourite person on the planet. Yeah. And Sam just likes to wind me up and see how far he can be. So I feel like you're the Sam in the. I've sort of got, yeah, I've got that from watching what you guys get up to.

8:39We should do a duo. Duo. Yeah. We should do something together. I was going to say a full way, but that sounded weird. excited. Especially after what you just said about your wife being your favourite person on the planet. We should do something to go. Let's do a four-way. Either do it or don't. Let's not pussyfoot. We're all in or we're not. But yeah, it must be hard though. Like, you know, living with your wife, obviously, spending time with her, having that relationship and having to work with her. No. No? No, it's not. I don't know if we're just a couple of weirdos, but we are We are genuinely I've always said this Right The The basis of a good Marriage A good relationship Is That you know That you love each other Of course But what's more important Is that you like each other So true Yeah That you're sort of mates And that you get on with each other And That we do We just do We are two mates And we do enjoy each other's company Do you know what I love about you mate?

9:40God God There's going to be quite a few of these strap in is that obviously sorry did you say strap in I did say strap in I do realise this podcast has started with a number of sexual undertones that I imagine will continue throughout by the end of this Sam will be hanging out the back of James I mean look you never know hey here's to possibilities depends how much was Stella Sam is well actually good point should we all have a sip yeah oh yeah there's nothing like false sippage of Stella actually have we got one more yes we do of course we do we can bring one in nothing like a forced sip I'm one ahead of you guys if you couldn't tell it's gonna turn into a fucking great day but do you know what I love about you mate okay and I'm not joking I've had four sips I feel like I'm a little bit pissed good I think it's the hops I think that because I obviously like we all have I used to watch the in between sort of fucking religiously and obviously you don't know the actor behind it right the actual person behind it and uh and you and your character are so wildly different it's one of the best some of the clips that you've done are so funny because they're so contrasting to the character you played in the in-betweeners i think all the i think the four boys the four main characters in the in-between i think they're so exaggerated yeah that um no one i mean don't get me wrong is it there's a there's a bit of jay in all of us i'd like to think but um that was quite a jay thing to say and if you're lucky there'll be a bit of jay in you but i do you know i just think those those characters so exaggerated like nil towards the end like nil's so stupid i think like during the third series of the in between It's like, well, you need to see a doctor or something.

11:42No one is that stupid. The writers are literally mugging him off so hard. But, I mean, you say the characters are really exaggerated, but I think the reason that everyone loved him with Tony is because you all kind of know someone that is like one of the characters. Yeah. Like, that's the thing. It's quite relatable because everyone kind of knows a bit of a J. Everyone knows a Neil. I think we did hit those characters, yeah. but I always say this, that there is always a J in the group, in your friend group. And if you're going, if you're going, no, there isn't, you're the J. You're the J. Yeah, yeah, absolutely.

12:17So true. Right, you know, we're going to come on to that a little bit later, but, but I, I'm a massive fan of gaming. Right, cool. Don't start, no, let me land, let me land the plane. So this is my wings, by the way. No, to be honest with you, Sam, I think he got, see what I mean? I think he got it. I think when you do playing and you do that, people know that you're intimidating, imitating a plane. I just really like Twitch, right? And I've seen your Twitch channel and it's fucking brilliant. And I don't even, you're not even meaning to be super funny, but you're fucking hilarious on it, mate.

12:52I haven't done it for a while. Do you get to be like, is it quite fun to just be like unedited you on there? Fun and stressful. There are, there's, I haven't done it for, I haven't been on Twitch for coming up to two years now. Lockdown was big for your Twitch channel. I'm going to be really honest. Sam has been talking about this Twitch thing for fucking God knows how long and I always just kind of switch off. I don't really understand what Twitch is. It's fucking amazing. Do you like video games? Are you into video? Well, then you won't like it. So is it like a fucking chat room? Yeah, yeah, yeah.

13:23It's basically a chat room, but you're playing games. What, for virgins? No, I'm not a virgin though, am I? Yeah. I've had sex a couple of times. Missionary's my favourite. so I don't know why I stared at you in the eyes that's why it was a bit weird wasn't it no I've logged it but do you know what what I want to really do is start a Twitch account with Pete because I think it's better it would be really good it would be really funny it's a lot of work to be honest with you it's a bit of pressure as well because you're broadcasting live and anything could happen yeah so you could say one thing can't edit it it's all live Yeah.

14:01Oh, no. Well, I game a lot, but I don't have a Switch account yet. But I have a group of pals who I've never met. Billy Bodger. No, David Badger. David the Priest. I've got David Badger. No, Reverend Booth. Sam's got these gaming friends that he plays with. Not good, mate. Don't enable this. It was good fun. Yeah, it was good fun, isn't it? At one point, he was going to meet them all for like a little meet-up. Yeah, right. Probably in a service station somewhere on the A1 in the toilets, I imagine. But, yeah, like the gaming friend thing, I just don't get. What's your nickname on it? I'm Jokesy Noxy.

14:32We've got David Badger, Reverend Boosty. And I always forget the next one. What's the other guy called? Blogsy. There's another one. I can't remember because I haven't gamed in a while, actually, to be fair. But I just want to know, do you have any gaming friends that you've never met before? Are you asking to be his gaming friend? If he wants. We can be in the same clan. Well, there was a, there was, I managed to tap into, when I was doing that Twitch thing, I managed to, there was a handful of people that was, that would turn up to every string. And they did become characters. and these genuinely sort of comedy characters.

15:04And I would get them on Discord, which is a thing where you can talk to people. And so I'd have them live on my stream and stuff. And I'd just ask them what they'd been up to at the weekend and stuff. And there was just some genuinely bizarre and quite funny characters. And I knew that if I'd asked them what they'd been up to that weekend, that they would say something funny. And I had a handful of, I had about sort of half a dozen of these regular viewers. um that i would ask to get involved i've never met couldn't tell you what they look like i love it it's probably a good thing that you don't know but but they were genuinely so funny so interesting that the the stream the twitch channel stopped becoming about me it was about these people that drop in and out and we'd catch up with them and find out what they'd been up to and stuff like that and like some of them were like this is not going to sound funny on paper but it was really funny like one of them was like oh my nan died over like over the weekend or whatever it's a strong start and he was like yeah we had the funeral and then we had the wake um in a in her living room and um we all like we're all sat around with a kebab and i went what what you went yeah we had like a sort of family kebab so then you start going into that you start asking questions so much to break down and uh but yeah i had just sort of people like that and it was did you genuinely quite I stifled a laugh because obviously I had some bloke telling me about his dead nan or whatever but he also told you about a family kebab yeah so what is going on and I would just probe at these people and just sort of get little stories out of them would you ever meet I've met I have met a couple of them if I've done something live or if I think I did I did like a comic con once with a couple of the other boys and that was fun but really intense.

16:59I've always put it off for years doing that. Comic-Con's fucking full on. Have you ever been to one? No, but I really want to go with you. So fucking no chance. No, please, when you dress you up. No chance. As a power ranger. Talk to me about Comic-Con because I imagine, like, listen, in between this is basically it's a huge part of fucking British pop culture for however many years. So you're an icon. You're a national treasure. Thank you. You and the rest of the boys. So I imagine that places like that you get the real certain type of virgin? No, not the one I was hoping for. No, do you know what was really weird?

17:35We went to Liverpool. It was me and two of the other boys. I think Blake couldn't be there because he's a big shot and he's too important. He plays Neil. No, he's done them. But you get these sort of options, right, when you sign on to Comic-Con and it's like, you can also, if you want to, you can charge more. Like you get paid to be there to start with, and then you can say, well, I'm going to charge 20 quid to sign. But these people are already paid to turn up anyway, and you've already been paid. And me and the other boys were just like, I'm not going to charge people anymore. Yeah. You know, as long as they come, if anyone comes and says hello to us, that'd be great.

18:20That'd be absolutely amazing. We were genuinely like, because there was like Game of Thrones people there, and like Hollywood people and all this kind of stuff. You've got the lads just. And we were like, it's going to be really embarrassing when we sit there at an empty table. You don't go like as characters? No, no, we just sit there and like we had the car behind us. So that helped us to let people know exactly who we were. We were mobbed. We were absolutely mobbed. And I really loved that. Did you? I loved the fact that you had all these big Hollywood stars and stuff and people wanted to see the in-betweeners.

18:51Yeah, fucking right. Like, I just, like, it made me ever so proud. Yeah, you should be, though, man, because as Pete just said, you're fucking national icons, man. And we should have charged. I mean, yeah, that's why you're a nice little man. I just kept seeing, like,£20 notes, like, flying away every time I was. Well, this is kind of Sam and he think we do. I do everything for the money. I'm not here for fun. Contractually obliged. I'm contractually obliged. Absolutely. Literally. Otherwise, you know, I'd have a kind of a real job. Listen, if I had enough money in the bank, you'd never see me again.

19:18Yeah. Yeah, see, this is where you and Pete can. See? You'd never see me again. There we go. See, Sam has got money in the bank and decides to do this. I love it. You're a lunatic. I'm working towards the monies for disappearance reasons. Yeah. I will faint my own death and just live somewhere else. Absolutely. I'd go out on a yacht. Yeah. And he'd be like, oh, James Buckley went on his yacht today. We haven't seen him since. And then in, you know, 15 years time, there'll be a report in the sun that they found you in Costa Rica. And it'll be that sort of thing. That's what will happen to me. Where's Peter James?

19:48It'd be like a documentary, like finding Peter James. We're not going to disappear together. Should we make a disappearing pack? We'll set a goal and as soon as we've both hit that goal money-wise, we'll go sail off into the sunset. Yeah, it works for all three of us because you and I can disappear and Sam will get a documentary out of it because it will be Sam. It'll be Finding Pete. Sam finds Pete and James. Finding Pete. Why is it that you both have that feeling? of just like of just and that's why i think you're both so loved by by our audiences is that like you genuinely don't want to be i do want to be here and let me just stress that again i love this but you both don't want to be here and i think the contrast is so fucking funny why is it why i'm stuck because i don't have any uh i barely got i didn't collect my gcses like i've got no qualifications i've not learned a trade i've got nothing to fall back on yeah i do look at stuff I have conversations with my wife all the time of harebrained schemes to sort of make money, some sort of passive income, where I don't have to be in front of a camera or anything like that.

21:03I wanted to be a cab driver for a little while. I was like, I might do the knowledge. And then I looked into that and I was like, that's really hard. I don't think I can do that. It's fucking hard. Yeah, it's really difficult. So then I was like, what if I buy a fleet of cabs, like four or five black taxis and rent them out? Yeah. And then you've got to find yard space to keep them on. You're in charge of the upkeep and all that. And I was like, right, this isn't as simple as I thought it would be. My most recent one, pilot's licence. Shut the fuck up. I thought I was looking into... Hold on, the camp driver we left because the knowledge was hard.

21:36Yeah. So we thought pilot, though, that'll be easier. No, but that's just driving a plane, basically, isn't it? Yeah. You do enough hours, you've got an instructor, and they'll tell you everything to do. And I wouldn't rush it. I'd take a few years. I've got to be honest, though. You on the fucking mic would be one of the best things. Hello, bus wankers. How are we? This is what I was thinking. This is what I was saying to Claire. I was like, so you can keep going. I said I could get my pilot's license. Then I could get my commercial pilot's license. Yeah. Work for Ryanair. Then I could, no, I could do private jets.

22:08So if you're some rich person that has a jet and you need a pilot, you hire me, fucking Jay from the in-betweeners, turns out, to fly your pilot. That's actually quite a good idea. If I ever got a private jet, which will never happen, and I turned up and Jay from the in-betweeners was a pilot. Imagine that, but the lads off to fucking Ironhack or something like that. I'd call my mum and say, I'm so sorry, you can have everything I own. It would be wild. But that is actually, I mean, Jay probably had a fucking pilot's licence. I do want to do a bar. I want to open a bar. I thought you meant a bar.

22:39Because you want to do the bars in like a legal bar. No, no, no. See, this is the difference is you went for the legal bar and I literally felt strict. I do think like Jay's Bar and Grill or something in Spain or something like that. It'd fly. It would fly. Maybe like some crawfish. What? Yeah. He's not doing it in fucking New Orleans. The fucking crawfish boil. I don't know. The fucking, why crawfish? Because I would love to have a, I love a crawfish. Do you? Crawfish. Have you had a langoustine? I love langoustines. Oh, langoustines. Love them. Sorry, we haven't even had a sip. I mean, that's a new thing now, even on me.

23:14And I've been friends with you for a long time. You'd love a crawfish? I love crawfish. So you'd like a crawfish bar? Yeah, I'd love it. I really would. Are you fucking okay? No, we'd like potatoes in the mix. We'd like potatoes in the mix and corn on the cob. I just would. I spent a lot of time on TikTok watching. Sorry, I know this is about you, but let's just take a minute, shall we? No, I'll let you go. No, I'm panicking. You'd like a bar where you can get corn on the cob and crawfish? Yeah, I really would. And where would you situate this? Somewhere in Fulham? Yeah, probably. because it's so out of like the, it's like so like in a different country.

23:47I think you're onto something. I do as well. We should open one together. It's only been the last few years that this country has sort of understood about barbecue. Yeah, we love a barbecue. Like barbecue doesn't just have to be a burnt sausage. No, no, no. Right on the flame. There's an art to it. Absolutely, yeah. Are you a barbecuer? Absolutely, yeah. So am I. I've got five barbecues, mate. You're not fucking fucking. That's a J thing, isn't it? No, no, it's true. I'm sorry, James, we're doing that thing. I'm so sorry. Oh God. You know, when you, when you go, Jay from the, he's like, no, that's that.

24:18I just said it. No, that is just me. Why five barbecues? Uh, I've got three grills. They all do different things. Trust me. Um, I've got a pellet smoker. I agree. A pellet smoker. The fuck's that? it's a smoker, but it doesn't use like wood and stuff. It uses, it uses pellets. It's a Traeger. You'd love it, mate. You honestly, you'd be well into it. Mate, James, P is, is a year off just having about you're very close to a barbecuer oh he's a vegan actually no you can't no you can still you know yeah he's not gonna fucking roast aubergines every day why roast aubergines great yeah I know but come on it's not as fun as like cooking a steak and getting all the like thermotimuses in there and stuff I mean it's Sam's thing funnily enough that kind of leads into the next part of this which is Sam's Sam's single sure how the fuck is me being single gonna how is that a segue way it's good to you know because it's not been in the papers or anything so it's good to it's good to sort of address that elephant in the room

25:21sam's thing sam's thing now is that um since being single what he likes to do is he just sort of like slides into dms and ask people around you know around if they can come around for kind of a couple of steaks yeah that's his thing and so we were going to kind of ask you you're a man that's been married for 12 years yeah um so you don't need to worry about that but you know jay character had a way with the ladies. Any advice for Sam on kind of, you know, chat up lines? I struggle to slide in. He's talking about the DMs, not cocking the vagina. Right, whatever. Well, that's true, to be fair. You're fine.

25:52No, mate, I'm not fine. You absolutely are. Don't worry. Yes, you are. Mate, I can't repeat. Tell him. No, he can't. He honestly can't. He sends voice notes to people, which is, hello, I'm Sam Thompson, recently single. What are you up to? I would just say cast your net really wide. I do. Yeah, just, you'll get a hit. You'll get a bite. Okay, what would be your slide in? I don't know. Maybe I'm a bit old school. What would be my slide in? See, I'm a bit... You've just got to have a conversation, you've just got to start having a conversation. How do you start that? All right, you go... All right.

26:25Do you like beer? Do you like beer? Because... And let me tell you, I'd reply to you. Because a lot of people do like beer, but when they say they like beer, they like sort of these sort of very trendy, cool beers. I like a Stella. Are you into that sort of thing? I like it. You're setting your stall. I'm a Stella drinker. I'm letting you know now. So that's your go-to? I don't know. Listen, I genuinely don't know. I'm not the guy. The fact that I'm not a virgin is a miracle. Like we should all, men everywhere should just be going, well, he's had it off, so there's hope for me. Such a good point.

27:02I know exactly what you mean. Should we all have a little cheers to not being virgins? Yeah. Look at us I remember my first Well we all probably do Imagine

27:13I'll drink to that Did you James So anyway you're single Yeah Did you expect today To be as weird as what it is I did a little bit I was up for it I was really looking forward to it And it's lived up to the hype I've got to be honest boys Wow It's just incredible

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29:21you and your wife and your podcast you don't really do guests do you sometimes we do but we're not i don't know if we're good with guests or evidently we're not but we're giving it a go you guys are great you guys are so good i don't know if um i don't know i don't know if there's something in me where if there's there's another uh relax jesus christ if there's um a change to the routine if they like because me and claire sat on a couch we're talking shit if there's someone else there i'm like fuck's going on here yeah i don't know if i'm i like routine i like stuff to stay the same quite a lot of the same fucking format i like routine we don't often have guests so um but we so the only time we have guests is when it's people we really want so um you're welcome that's okay don't you don't you worry about it but that's mainly because um i i don't like it my phone if i stay up past 11 at half past 11 yeah i get a alert on my phone that says that literally says bedtime like my phone goes why aren't you in bed what are you doing why aren't you in bed right now because you're usually asleep by now i see that you've got a watch on?

30:35I do. It's a little Apple watch. Christ, these questions are getting worse. Does that seem to tell the time? No, there's a reason for it. Are you hitting on me? So you've got a watch on? This feels like one of your chat-ups. I've also got a watch. So you've got a timepiece on there. It's just that when I'm gaming... Yeah. Oh, we're back to the gaming. Sorry. Sorry. Any way to get that back. I didn't realise we hadn't finished with the gaming. please crack on when I'm gaming it's getting a little bit dicey right when does gaming get dicey it can get intense it gets so intense like you have full blown arguments for people you've never met before you weren't there man yeah you don't know what it was like you genuinely don't you know when you play you haven't actually been to war mate I genuinely think I could if I got drafted I'd be fucking unbelievable oh don't be so fucking stupid I'm being deadly serious don't be so fucking stupid mate if I got drafted I honestly mate you'd be cannon fodder they'd send you in first of all as fucking like a diversion no and just we'll get rid of him because he's doing my fucking head in.

31:35I can't sit in a little hole with that fella. You'd turn up on horseback. Yeah, with a sword. Yeah, you'd be like Tally Ho. If I got drafted, I genuinely, I'd be like, look, just put me in charge of the drones. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, because I'm a gamer. So I'd just be all over it. Or if I'm in the front line, let's be honest, you'd all like to be in the trenches with me. Right. I'd be a morale booster. No, you wouldn't. Yes, I would. To be honest with you, I'd shoot you. I'd be like, But listen, do you know what? It's only one. You weren't going to do much anyway. Pop that off and we can all chill.

32:08We should do a Monty Python sketch. You know when they used to do Dad's Army? We should do one there. Well, look, I mean, Dad's Army is an absolute classic. It's a fucking classic. Well, I haven't even finished my fucking watch story. I was just trying to get away from gaming, but please crack on. So I used to have an Apple Watch. I used to have an Apple Watch, right? Can you let him do his Apple Watch? Sorry. this is going to be gold there's no way this is not going to be I was just letting you have a comment out I was just trying to entertain the audience but you're too crack on but now I feel like I've got the table I'm panicking now a little bit go on okay so everyone's listening I used to have an Apple Watch right when things got a little bit dicey when I'd game it's like your heart rate so my Apple Watch would vibrate and it would go you need to you need to calm down have you ever had this anyone who has an Apple Watch you know when like you're really exerting and it goes your level your stress levels are really induced I would always get it to the point where my watch would vibrate and tell me that I'd overexerted myself.

33:08That was my story. That's when you're doing it properly. Sorry. So the whole room, the whole room stopped for that, which is going to be cut the fuck out. I panicked halfway through that story and went, how do I finish this? How do I fucking land? Listen, I think we were a bit unfair on set. I think we put a bit of pressure on him. Thank you, James. It was just meant to be an off the cuff little story and it turned into a big thing. if you got drafted what role would you want to be back to the army this is the problem I'm in the catchment I'm waiting to get old enough to not be drafted if the country's going you we need you no you don't I'm a liability I'd be better off staying out of it honestly I will die in a war and take other people with me.

33:59Like, don't have me go to war. I'm an idiot. Yeah, I'm going to be honest with you. If, you know, if that was ever the case, the two people that I would probably rather not draft, I think, based on today would be you. No, I'd want to go in. No, no, I'd want you to go in. I'd want you to go in. It would put an end to my misery. No, we're getting drafted together. We're in the same fucking squadron. Oh, great. We're squadron leaders. He'd sign you both up. You wouldn't even know anything about it. People would knock on the door going, come on, on the bus. You go, Pete sitting there in his pants and a, what are we talking about?

34:31He'd be going, isn't this fun? This is great, isn't it? Yeah, funny enough, he'd probably just be fucking streaming the whole thing as well. That's what you'd get now. It's my outfit of the day. Gone for a khaki number. Anyway, one thing, like you are actually, I mean, you said earlier on, if you weren't doing things in front of the camera, you've got no kind of, you know, trade or kind of skills or whatever else, but you are an incredible actor. So you did one of my favourite, well, you did like a spin-off of one of my favourite ever shows. So I'm Only Fools and Horses obsessed. Best show, mate.

35:03Like obsessed. It is my favourite fucking show. I watch religiously and non-stop. And you played Del Boy. Yeah. With Nicholas Lindhurst as well, who was part of that. Yeah, so he played Freddy the Frog, who in the Only Fools and Horses show, we find out is Rodney's actual dad. So that's why it made sense for Nick Linders to play Rodney's dad in this. Why was he called Freddy the Frogman? Because he was a submariner, wasn't he? He was a frogman. He was a frogman, yeah. So he was a scoob. He got drafted. Sorry. Sorry. Sorry. Or did he join up out of his own back? Who knows? Anyway, so he was the Frog.

35:42So that's why he's called the Frog. Yeah. So listen, when the call-up come for you to play like a character, because you love Rodney Falls and Austin as well, don't you? So when the call-up came for you to play that character, what was that like? Well, I auditioned for it. Oh, did you actually audition for it? Yeah, yeah, yeah. So I auditioned for it, and I think I did two or three auditions, like callbacks and stuff like that. And I kept getting notes from John Sullivan and from the casting director saying, we love the work that you've put into this character. And I was like, I'm putting any work into the character.

36:20Was it just because you knew about them? I've just grown up. Like, these people are extended parts of my family. Yeah, yeah, yeah. They were on the TV constantly when I was growing up. How old are you? I'm 37. I'm 37. But it was me, my parents, my grandparents. I had great grandparents at one stage, you know, that I was also watching Only Fools and Horses with. Like, I just knew those people so well. And when they said, oh, we love all the work that you've put into the characters, I was like, I haven't done anything. The work is just decades of watching Only Falls and Orses. Did you put on an accent or anything?

36:59I didn't have to, did I? Sam, have you ever seen Only Falls and Orses? Yeah. Hey, tail boy. Perfect. No, no, no. We're going to be rich. We're going to be millionaires.

37:11You've hurt me a bit there. That kind of made me die inside a little bit. But yeah, that must have been fucking incredible. I loved it. Absolutely loved it. I forget I did that. I always forget that I did that. And I'm so proud that I got to do it. I was really nervous beforehand doing it. And Joe Thomas, who plays Simon in The Inbetweeners, when I was talking to him about it, he didn't help. He just went, it's a bit like Bond, isn't it? I was like, what do you mean? He was like, well, because, you know, there's this character. that's so important and other people have played Bond and it's like being the new Bond.

37:54So there's a lot of pressure there. And I went, yeah, thank you. Yeah, that is one of them. It's sort of like my brain exploded a little bit. I was like, oh, no, no, I don't know if I want to do this now. What was it like walking onto set for the first time? It was brilliant. So it was set in the 60s, but it was all the characters, but they were younger. So for you, it was like the prequel to what Only Fools and Wants was. So you were Del Boy? Yeah, but like young, young Del Boy. Yeah. So you, do you wear the coat? No, because you. Did he get the coat later on? I had the flat cap and the cigar.

38:27Del Boy isn't just a coat and I'll be a millionaire. That's, is that what you see it as? I've already watched a few episodes of it. Dressed up as Batman, everything. It was great. On the, on the, on the, on the jet ski when he's, when he's off to a fucking. Yeah. Miami Tide. Yeah. Yeah. Nice. Yeah. Well, any other. That's all right. No, we're there. We're there. We hit the limit. We hit the limit. We've got some diamonds from. If you would talk to me about the Inbetweeners, I'd know. Because that's my era. Pete and you guys, you're just a little bit older than me. Well, listen, if you like the Inbetweeners, watch Only Fools and Horses.

38:58Yeah. It's honestly, it's the best show. If you think the Inbetweeners is good, watch Only Fools and Horses. Yeah. I would like, word for word, it's the best show I think there's ever. I know how much you love it, yeah. Like I just, and still now. My dad loves it. Yeah. Oh yeah, of course, Big Mike would. Yeah, he loves it. Yeah. You've made us sound like we're fucking 60 years old. Old souls, I'd say. your old souls who twitch what is your kind of favourite role that you've played does it get annoying now like this long after kind of in between us people still going or do you love it I'm relieved that people are still talking about the in between us and Jay I really loved I always say this I always say how I'd like to be one of those cool people that are like hey I've moved on man yeah and can we not talk about that you know i don't i'm more than just joking in between the problem is is that i'm i genuinely am a fan of the in-betweeners i just thought from the moment i read it i was like this is absolutely hilarious this is so funny it was if i if i wasn't in it i would be a huge fan of it yeah yeah um so i'm just really proud of it but you know that's so refreshing to hear man because i know what you mean about those people go nah man that was just a moment in time and now it's like dude you've made something that's impacted so many people's fucking lives and and it's funny to say about like the programs you're like it's it's a comedy right but like it has it's made so many people laugh it's made so many people smile probably in dark times and all that kind of stuff mate like it's something to be so fucking proud of that you wouldn't i don't think you'd ever want to sort of like move away from that in a sense no and obviously the the proudest things i've you know i've basically brought up a family off the back of it yeah i've been able to put food on the table because of the in-betweeners Have you shown your kids the Inbetweeners?

40:46I've actually watched a couple of episodes of my eldest son. How old is he? He is 13. He's 14. Perfect territory. Well, so this was it. So they'd never seen the Inbetweeners. And he's been in secondary school for a couple of years now. And when he first got to secondary school, so there's kids his age, like when he first turned up, 11, all the way up to 18. so there's obviously he's left primary school and now there's a new load of language and a new sort of clunge all that kind of stuff Jesus no but I imagine there is I imagine he's probably going about to say clunge a nice story about his 13 year old son and you just randomly go no but the clunge the problem is is that I feel like between me and Claire that we kept our kids too innocent yeah and we sort of sheltered them or you know from the clunge yeah I'm going to have to burp they're doing it getting us sorry you can only do it If you blow it, you've got to blow it.

41:42Right. There we go. Good man. Birth and blow. And he was like, oh, dad, what does this mean? And stuff like that. Like, get in the car. And I was like, by the way, like, if anyone says anything that you don't quite understand that you're a bit worried about, or if you've said something a bit naughty to the, first of all, I've probably fucking created it anyway. So, but just go and talk to me and I'll tell you what it means and stuff. And he got to a point where he got a little bit stressed out and he was trying to get in with the lads and have fun with his pals and stuff. And then he'd come away and he was like, oh, I'm not sure if that behavior was, I feel like I'm in trouble.

42:18I feel like it was sort of playing with his conscience a bit. And, and I was like, mate, you need to watch the Inbetweeners. You need to see what idiot young boys are like when they're, when they're hanging out with each other. Because, and also I'd encourage that as well, because get it out of your system now when you're in high school or whatever because a 35 year old idiot in between that is not a good look yeah yeah so be an idiot be an idiot now while you're 12 13 14 15 16 and then by the time you sort of come out of school and stuff like that you might be able to sort of get on in society weirdly that's one of the best bits of advice anyone could have ever given their kid like you need come here son you need to watch the in-betweeners this is this is the time and it will teach him so much i just wanted to show him how boys of that age, you know, it's a confusing time.

43:10Yeah. Especially, especially for a lad because. It is. It's fucking terrifying. You got, you know, I remember mine. Yeah, so do you? Yeah, yeah. It's the most I've ever. Yeah. Come. Once, yeah, once I learned how to do it, then I was. Same, I was all over the gaff. I'd like it. I'd like it. It wasn't going all over the gaff. I had a big sense. You were glazing your fucking mum's ass like a donut. Wonderful. Wonderful. That's good for us all to know. Wonderful. And a big sort of surplus. It was all building up until that point. And then ever since then, it's like... So it is. It's a confusing time.

43:42Potato water. Well, there's a lot going on. I mean, fuck me. What was your son's feedback on the show when he first watched it? He said it was really funny. Did he? Did you like it? Yeah. And it did genuinely help him feel better about being an idiot. Yeah. Boys are idiots. With your mates as well, you know. Boys are idiots and you've got to get it out of your system. Yeah. So, I mean, we've spoken on the pod quite a lot about, as far as Sam and I know, we don't have kids. And we've spoken quite a lot on the pod about our metaphorical daughters who are around your son's age. Rose and Olive. Rose and Olive.

44:20I'm Rose. No, he's Sam. His daughter's Rose. Sorry, yes. I'm not Olive. I'm Pete and my daughter's Olive. This is a very weird set up, isn't it? Yeah, it's weird, isn't it? And I bet you didn't think it was going to come from me, did you? So what's it like? It's a roundabout way of going, what's it like to be a dad? Yeah. Do you love it? Absolutely. Now that your son is at that age, because I always feel like that is probably the most exciting time to be a dad. Absolutely. Terrifying probably at the same time. I've been really, really lucky in that I've got two boys and I feel like boys are simpler.

44:55I don't want to generalise it. Yeah. but there's, you know, we, we know video games, sex and, you know, beer or whatever. Like that's, that's sort of what you grow into. So I've got two boys and I'm a dad and it, it just is the best. It like, I've just made two mates. Yeah. It's, it's absolutely brilliant. I think. Do you feel like you're their mates? Absolutely. Yeah. Yeah. I chat to them all the time. That's so fun. Do you go into the room and be like, say mate, what's going on? No, I just, like. Why is that funny? No, we don't have to do that. Because even that, right, if you had a son, it's like you're trying to be your son's friend.

45:37It's like anything. Like your son just wouldn't be your friend. You'd be forcing him. All right, mate, can I come back to play? Like, I feel like that would be you. That is just such a you thing. How do you do it? How do you knock on the door? Right, let's do a little bit of. Don't knock on the door. All right, just boo it, are you? Yeah, it's your fucking house. You go in when you want. I guess we've just built a relationship where they're happy to tell me what's going on in their head. And I love it. I hear about their thoughts and their hopes and their dreams and stuff like that. And we talk.

46:08We do. I've never had that with my parents. I think it's a generational thing. But I do enjoy hanging out with my boys. Absolutely love it. So beautiful. What a lovely thing to say. I think I'd be, and then there's also that flip side. So if I had a daughter, if I had daughters, right? Like us. It's a whole different ballgame for us. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Trust me, mate, you don't want money. They're in that phase. Whereas I find it easier to guide idiot boys through life because I know exactly what it's like to be an idiot boy. Yeah. Also, because I know what idiot boys are like, I think I'd panic having a daughter.

46:50On a serious note though, mate, like, you know, you seem like a really decent bloke. Like, you can also... Why is that funny? Why do you keep trying to chat me up? Are you testing these chat minds on me? It's because you're saying... Before you try it on with some birds. It sounds like you're going to take him around and finger him in the other studio in a minute. I'm going to be honest with you. There's so many fun bits, but like some of the things you say are quite profound, you know, how about how you want to be their best mates and all that kind of stuff. And it is really touching. What is nice though, I think, is that you can tell them and after being in the in-betweeners and seeing that like sort of like young lad culture stuff, you can tell them like how not to be with girls.

47:23Do you know what I mean? You can be like, you know, and that's such a nice thing for a dad to impart on his boys. Well, but that's the thing as well. So I think, I also think most boys are,

47:35ironically, I do think most boys are quite nice to girls. Obviously there's a few that aren't or whatever, especially when you're at school, you know, but I do think those boys from the in-betweeners, I think like there's an episode where Jay gets a girlfriend at one point. Yes. Yeah. And he's just quite sweet. Just in love with her. And just quite heartbroken when she breaks it off with him and stuff like that. I think that's what most boys are like, really. Yeah. Yeah. So heartbreak. I mean, we'll leave it there because it's been a fun day. We can't finish with tears. We have got, so we do this thing, and I don't know why this has become a thing, because weirdly enough, I'm 37, and it feels like a real school kind of playground thing to do.

48:30But we do Shag, Marry, Kill quite a lot. Right. So got one for you. Okay, go on. You're going to love it. Shag, Marry, Kill, Will, Neil and Simon. Got a shag, one of them. Got a shag, one of them. The characters or the actors? The characters. I think it would be unfair to literally dive into the actors like that. I wouldn't be able to pick which one I wanted to, you know. Fuck. Well, I wouldn't want to leave one out. No. I mean, it would be a first, but you can just have a big sort of all day. Well, I'd go...

49:12Neil's probably got quite a weapon. Do you reckon? Right, he's just tall, isn't he? Not that that matters because... But his technique on the fingering is the best as well. All right, yeah, I'll go with Neil then. Yeah. I'll have a little fumble with Neil. Okay, he's going to have a little play. That sounds like fun. Yeah. Who's going to treat you the best? Probably marry Simon. Really? Because he's very romantic. Not Will. Yeah. And Will would be... You'd kill him. I feel like I'd be... Yeah, yeah, we'd get rid of Will. How do you do it? Garrot. Yeah, nice. Nice. Just wait for him Just in a In a public toilet Yeah I mean personally I I would probably You don't know what a garrote is When you strangle Oh it's a cheese string Yeah yeah Yeah yeah Not with a cheese string Yeah I know what you mean Yeah yeah Because that would just break Fucking hell you do them like that Yeah Just go on over years Real sort of mafia style But also don't leave out the fact that you said he'd do it in the toilet Yeah Well I want to leave I want to you know leave a message We're going to ask you one more thing before we go.

50:15Well, it depends if it's the thing that I'm going to ask or you're just going to go on about the army. No, I want to... Is it game names? No, no. All right, let's go. James Buckley. Yes. What's your middle name? Patrick. That's not the question. James Patrick Buckley. Yeah. How do you feel about joining us at the O2? For what? For our live show. Genuinely? Yeah. Yeah. Oh my God! So we've got September 19th. We would love you to be part of it. Absolutely, yeah. If you actually want, and your wife, obviously. Oh, that's a shame. See, that's the drilling. So there's a lot of building work going on in the studio.

50:50It doesn't sound like a fart. It doesn't sound like drilling at all. It sounds like someone's got a violent diarrhea upstairs. But, mate, yeah, fucking thank you so much for being here. What a fucking pleasure, mate. Absolutely. An absolute pleasure. No, you're not just being nice. No, no, no, dead serious. Dead serious. Yeah, count me in. Do you know what? Dead serious. It's sold out. So we've got, I think it is. I'm going to need a few of these. I think oh mate mate I'll be fucking hammered so will I terrifyingly I will also be hammered as well yes I mean yeah there's lots of shit going on but yeah we're doing one night only at the O2 so it's oh fuck it shit I'm quite I'm honoured mate you're quite touched over 15 ,000 people are we friends?

51:30yeah we are we're friends should we hug? is that what's happening? podcast friends is that what's happening? oh I've got one oh my god here we go yay yes I'm so... So... I'm really sorry. I know this is a little bit cliche. Can we all just go podcast friends? Ready? Can you do the voice? Yeah, yeah, ready? Oh, podcast friends. That's not the voice. That's not... Oh, podcast friends. That was good. Oh, podcast friends. There you go. Beautiful. And on that note, James Buckley, thank you so much, mate. And make sure you go and listen to his pod as well with his wife because it is fucking hilarious.

52:07Is it called The Buckleys? I forgot to mention that. You've forgotten the name of your own podcast. That is fucking brilliant. It's my own name. So, yeah, make sure you have a listen because it is brilliant. So, yeah, thank you so much for being here, mate. Make sure you rate-reviewed all of that crap. If you want to get in touch with us, then email the worst email address in the world, which is hello at srproductions.co.uk. Love it. Follow us on socials, that's their podcast, all of that bullshit. Unite by now. Ta-da, motherfucker. James Buckley, everybody. Thank you, guys. A real fucking pleasure, man.

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