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Staying Relevant

27 Jul 2025 · 1h 10m · 27 chapters

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138: We surprise Pete with PUPPIES!

In short

The hosts (Sam Thompson and Peter “Pete” Wicks) banter about tattoos, dating rumors, gym/diet struggles, Love Island predictions and post-villa realities, and Pete’s upcoming Copperfield charity trek in Iceland. They also discuss public scrutiny and privacy, plus a long story about a night out involving Olivia Atwood and tequila-fueled antics.

Guests

No podcast guests appear as interviewees. Producer Pippa is mentioned as being back in town, but she’s not a guest. Other named people are friends/associates (e.g., Hannah “Chuckles,” Olivia Atwood, her sister, Ryan), not guests.

Guest backgrounds

Not applicable (no guest interviews). Named associates: Olivia Atwood (Love Island alum/TV personality); Giovanna Fletcher (Copperfield organizer); Copperfield charity supporters.

Key claims

Dating and personal history get “dug up” online; people should respect Love Island contestants’ privacy; Love Island couples face contract, press, and tenancy challenges after leaving; Pete’s Copperfield trek is emotionally tough but meaningful; Sam’s gym struggle is driven by diet/sugar and supplement uncertainty.

Notable examples

Sam’s “Admiral Akbar” tattoo and planned cat-themed bunny/cowboy hat tattoos; Pete and Sam’s past “cat on a broom” controversy; a night out where Sam repeatedly orders tequilas and ends up sitting near Liv’s sister; Love Island “game plan” voice note controversy involving Lucy.

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Chapters

1:43

Welcome Back Producer Pippa

Hosts discuss the return of producer Pippa and their podcast plans.

“It's not me that has the dandruff problem.”
3:49

NTA Photoshoot Preparations

Sam and Pete prepare for an upcoming photoshoot and share their fashion choices.

“Well, no, I was just going to say that me and Pete actually talking about style, we're actually off somewhere later today, which is going to involve suiting and booting.”
6:01

Tattoo Tales and Experiences

Discussion about tattoos, past experiences, and funny anecdotes.

“No, well, we should be able to now, mate.”
7:45

Getting Inked: Personal Stories

The hosts share their thoughts on getting tattoos and past choices.

“I was going to comment on it saying, as an ambassador for the RSPCA, I don't approve of this.”
9:30

Dating, Relationships, and Tattoos

Discussion around dating, relationships, and the significance of tattoos.

“Oh, you're going to get a carton of juice?”
14:00

The Importance of Instagram History

Discuss the significance of keeping old social media posts as a personal history.

“But even like photos and stuff like that, like I would never, because I think it's like a history of you and like what you've been through.”
14:50

Diet Challenges and Nutrition Needs

Explore the struggles with diet and the benefits of consulting a nutritionist.

“delete them, you can keep them in your own little memory and have a little cry about it but I don't think Debbie at home is going I just don't think I would Look at these, do you remember him with Tiff?”
17:00

Dating in the Public Eye

Examine the challenges of dating when under public scrutiny and the impact of rumors.

“I just said that we were having more of a standard chat.”
19:20

Authenticity in Love

Understanding the importance of staying true to oneself amidst public pressure.

“I was a fucking complete s**t and I can't get away from that no matter what I do.”
21:10

Transitioning to Love Island Talk

Prepare for a shift in conversation towards Love Island updates.

“Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa.”
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21:40

Navigating Relationships Post-Love Island

Discuss the challenges contestants face after leaving the Love Island villa.

“Honestly, I'm doing everything to not just break down in tears right now.”
24:20

Handling Breakups in the Public Eye

Address the public's role in respecting the privacy of individuals during breakups.

26:00

Game Plans and Authenticity on Reality TV

Analyze the strategies contestants use to succeed on reality shows like Love Island.

“come on these are big announcements these are big times in their lives there is a one lady called Lucy who sadly got booted out recently.”
28:01

Pete's Night Out at Dinner

A humorous recount of a dinner night involving friends and tequila antics.

“Peter James Jonathan Joseph Wicks with his other best friend, Olivia Atwood, her sister and her makeup artist.”
33:23

Plans for Iceland and Copperfield

Pete shares his upcoming trip to Iceland for a charity trek with Copperfield.

“Then Sam decided what would be a great idea.”
37:09

Tube Adventures and Experiences

Discussion around the experiences of taking the tube in London and the challenges it presents.

“We can get links actually up on the socials as well.”
42:01

Tube Etiquette and Public Behavior

The hosts share humorous anecdotes about public transport etiquette and social interactions.

“just sort of like, just existing on the tube.”
46:01

The Coldplay CEO Affair Incident

Discussion about a viral incident involving a Coldplay concert and a CEO caught in an affair.

“without mentioning possibly one of my favourite things that's ever happened.”
48:27

AI, Scandals, and Corporate Culture

Debate on how AI influences perceptions of scandals and workplace dynamics.

“Because I've actually thought what I would do.”
50:41

Influencer Brand Trips and Marketing Trends

The hosts discuss the trend of influencer brand trips and their impact on marketing.

“I think you should be the scapegoat for the scandal.”
54:39

The Appeal of Unique Marketing

Exploration of how innovative marketing strategies, like themed trips, engage audiences.

“She's just basically done an Instagram trip.”
56:00

The Reality of Influencer Brand Trips

Explore the challenges and realities faced by influencers on brand trips.

“Just because it's sort of, I guess it's just marketed that way.”
58:48

Introducing a Surprise for Pete

A fun segment where the hosts prepare a surprise for Pete involving puppies.

“And often as well, and listen, you know, we do this as well.”
1:00:02

Puppy Surprise from Dogs Trust

Pete meets adorable puppies brought in by the Dogs Trust team.

“So let's see if we can sort of keep that up with this week's Pete Reacts.”
1:02:26

For Dog's Sake: Season Two Insights

Discussion about the success of the show and its impact on dog adoption.

“And your whole team are here just to show you how much they love you.”
1:10:00

Puppy Fever and Emotional Reflections

Explore the emotional connection and impact of the show involving puppies.

“Just something that's beautiful, beautiful.”
1:12:50

Upcoming Season Announcement

Learn about the upcoming season of 'For Dog's Sake' and its exciting features.

“there's not a date yet but it's going to be autumn autumn this year it'll be out and then there's going to be a Christmas special and then series 3 so but yeah around autumn time is when series two will be out.”
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1:43Well, everybody, it's a really big day. we've sort of been flying by the seat of our pants you don't know where you're going no I do know where we're going we've had carte blanche on this podcast the past two weeks but we've been pulled back down to earth Pippa, producer Pippa is back in town so well done producer Pippa, you're back but welcome to the podcast hosted by two best friends it's staying relevant with me Sam Thompson and Peter James Wicks He was just wiping the dandruff off his. Oh, we both know. It's not me that has the dandruff problem. I actually do get a flaky scalp. I know, whereas mine is actually really good.

2:23It's actually just dog hair. It's the problem with going black. Anyway, there will be swearing in this podcast. If you don't like it, go f*** yourself. Make sure you rate, review, do all of that crap. You should know it by now. If it's your first time listening, welcome. Hello. Yeah. This is the main episode, which means it's Monday, so you'll be able to watch this on YouTube from 5pm on Wednesday. and then we'll be doing a bonus episode on Thursday, which comes out audibly Thursday, which you'll be able to watch from 5pm on Sunday, which means that you can catch us on a... Monday, Wednesday, Thursday, Sunday.

2:56Wonderful. If you do want to get in touch with us, then make sure you email us at the most wonderful email address, which is very inviting. Hello at srproductions.co.uk. You've got to send a wave emoji as well when you do that, just to really nail down hello. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, send the wave emoji because it will help with the filing system because that will go straight in the bin. Anyway, here we are. Let's fucking crack on. Sam's wearing a football shirt, a purple football shirt. Just like to sort of mix things up at the moment. Which means that his stylist told him that they're quite in at the minute.

3:31No, no, no, she hasn't seen this. This is a me purchase, actually. It is quite in at the minute. Yeah, the football shirts. Acne Studios have just released some that sold out instantly. Well, there you go. This is a retro Fiorentina shirt. Yeah. And I used to play them on Football Manager back in the day. Okay, we all lost interest. I knew that was going to happen. But, sorry, carry on, mate. No, please. Well, no, I was just going to say that me and Pete actually talking about style, we're actually off somewhere later today, which is going to involve suiting and booting. We've got the NTA's photo shoot.

4:02Yes, it will be Sam and I and Joel Domit. Is he going to be there? Yes, he is. Yeah, because I have read the brief, which came across at 5pm last night, which I was incredibly angry about because I don't have all my suits at my house and I like a good suit. So I've had to make do. I haven't had time to get to dry cleaners with it. He's wearing a vest for our NTA shoot. Yes, whereas Sam looks like he's potentially just trying to get off on some sort of GBH charge. You're looking like you are going to court. So neither of us really NTA appropriate. I can't wait though because they normally... But they haven't booked us for our style, would they, Sam?

4:40No, they booked us for our charisma and our photo shoot now. Because last time we did it, and I hope we do this again, we did some poses together. And I really hope that we follow that up this year. You know, Pete was carrying me on his back. He then carried me like a baby in his front. This year is going to be different, isn't it? Because you're going to need to teach me. Because you are now the kind of heart. No, because you know I can't do photo shoots. I've never been able to do them. Sorry, we've all seen your candids on Insta. You must be joking. And don't pretend they're not full-on shoots.

5:15So, no, you're going to have to teach me what to do. But luckily, we'll be able to document it all for you because Hannah Chuckles is coming with us. Pippa is also coming with us. So we're about to give you some behind the scenes of Sam teaching me how to model, which I'm excited about. I can't wait for them to be like, right, Sam, you know the drill. Jump on his back. I'm just going to I'm going to leap on like a frog and I'm going to hold him from behind and then weirdly though they may I feel like they do this on purpose but they like they make me sort of go around your entire body because it starts in the back then you cradle me like a baby at the front and then I feel like I sort of grab a leg at one point one of my favourite things is when they go if you just pick Sam up then while Sam holds the award and then they do that then check the light in make sure everything's fine and I'm stood there for 15 minutes with that **** in my arms shaking And then in the photo, he's fine because he just had a lay down in my arms and I'm sweating with just beads of sweat running into my fucking eyes because I've been stood there for 15 minutes while he checks the fucking lighting.

6:15I love it, but do you know what? We couldn't do it the other way. No, well, we should be able to now, mate. I mean, any opportunity for you to get the guns out. Thankfully, we haven't got a tank top on this time, which is great. Pippa, you missed that. It was a weird experience for us all. I've had many a comment about it saying, are you between stylists? They thought that you got rid of one and then made your own choices. Hey, man, look, I'm just trying to find my rhythm. Yeah. You know? Got to throw a few things out there. Got to kiss a few frogs. That being the frog. Oh, I was going to say, I thought we were talking about another one of your dates.

6:47Talking about BCLity, actually. No, no, Sam, Sam, Sam, Sam. Sam, we can't talk about BCL. It's sort of one of my things, isn't it? The old animal welfare. Well, you didn't do it. It was me. Well, no, no, I didn't do it. I know exactly what you're going to bring up. and I normally message you about it. Have you deleted it? I did. Okay, yeah. I thought you probably should because I'm sure the vision was very different. I put up this fucking post on Instagram and I was like, me and Ted recorded it and I was like, this is going to be quite fun. Did you not think it through? No, because I just wanted to get my cat on the front of the broom that I was pretending to ride but it looked like I was riding my cat.

7:21Yeah. And I put it up. I popped this video up and I went, this is going to do really well. And it's popping off and I'm like, yeah, this is great. I look at all the comments and I'm getting accused of zoothelia. I didn't even know that was a name. And then my cat fell off the broomstick and everyone was like, he's trying to run away. And it really, really affected me actually. Yeah, yeah. I know you're single, but it's not the sort of pussy you should be going for. I felt so bad. Yeah, no, I didn't realise. Did you see, you saw the post? I saw the post. Was it what you instantly thought? I was going to comment on it saying, as an ambassador for the RSPCA, I don't approve of this.

7:55Fuck's sake. But I thought, let's not go with it. I was just trying to hold the broom up. Yeah. I mean, maybe just have a little bit bit more thought process through some of these. I mean, I did see, the only reason I saw it was because I was tagging it so many times saying maybe everything should be approved by Pete. I actually saw that one as well. Anyway, so let's get on to your week because you have been incredibly busy. As always, you're a busy boy at the minute. Nice, that was actually a perfect way into this. Lift your arm up again because Sam has inked himself further. So the scribbles on his left arm have been increased.

8:28He's got some sort of veiny penis. It's not a veiny penis. It's Admiral Bloody Akbar. Yeah. You know who Admiral Akbar is. I absolutely do not. He attacked the Death Star in Return of the Jedi. He looks like an angry cock. He's one of the most unsung heroes of Star Wars. He does look a little bit throbby, but like he, and he's weirdly veiny, but genuinely he is the man or the lobster who basically decides the fate of the free world in Star Wars. He leads the assault. And then he goes, it's a trap. Well, luckily for you, you made up for it because you got some other great tattoos. So you got a bunny.

9:07Yeah, yeah, yeah. It doesn't look like a bunny. Little bunny rabbit. No, it doesn't look like a bunny. Well, I got a little bunny rabbit with a floppy ear. And why did we do that? Because it signifies my cat. Yeah, would a cat not have been better? Well, yeah, but that's just a bit boring. You want to sort of like, you know, because I call my cat Bunny. Have you got a rabbit then? No, but I call him, you know I call Cedric Bunny. Yeah, I know, but that would make me think you've got rabbit. I'm then going to get a carton of juice. Oh, you're going to get a carton of juice? Yeah, because I call Elvis juice.

9:32God, honestly, you're just a cool guy. I'm just wacky. You're just such a fucking crazy cat. Sorry, bunny. And a cowboy hat. A cowboy hat. Yeah, which is for Dinelli. Yeah. Nice. And then we get a few more. I'm getting six more and then I'm done. Okay, six more. And you've already planned them out? Yeah, I know exactly what I'm going to get. Okay. So yeah, and then I'm done. And then it's over. Then you're done. Then it's over, Peter. Right. And we're finished after that. Yeah. I've not been tattooed for years. Because you haven't got any more space. I do. I've still got a little bit of prime real estate left.

10:07Where? On my leg. Arse cheek? My arse is still prime real estate. Where do you get your arse cheek tattooed? Yeah, at some point I'll have to, because I'll have to get all of that bit done, because my stomach and back, and obviously the top of my legs are all done. So when I get that, I just look like I'm wearing pants, because it's just bare, but everything else is tattooed. So it does look a little bit odd. You're actually going to get your arse cheek. I wonder what that even feels like. Could I please do a heart on your arse cheek? No. Why? No. I have got a little thing on my, because I used to date someone.

10:37We went to an alpaca farm in Wales for a weekend and took a tattoo gun and got really drunk and tattooed each other. You got one on your arse? Yeah, I've got things. Yeah. Why are you trying to act coy? Just tell us what you got. It's not that big a deal. I've got like her name and some other bits sort of around the crotch area. Got your penis tattooed? No, not on the penis, just sort of on the base of the shaft. Bloody hell. That is wild. I can't imagine going away with someone and being like, you know what we should do? I want you to tattoo my cock. That's mental. Jesus Christ, I'm here getting a bunny tattoo on the back of my arm.

11:20Pete's got her initials tattooed. You're going to have to get a cover up as well. Would you let me tattoo you ever? 100%. 100%. You know my tattoos mean nothing and they're shit. So like, what do you want to do? You can do anything. Just don't do it like a penis, but you can do anything you want. No, well, you've already got one. I'll walk straight into that. What would I tattoo on you? Yeah. I mean, would you get my name tattooed on you? I've already got your face, mate. Oh, fuck. I keep forgetting about that. That's mental. Yeah. We've got our faces on each other. That is fucking wild. I've got a question for you.

11:51You know, I've got a cover up on my arm. Yeah, yeah, yeah. From your ex's name. From Tiff, yeah. And it was when I was like 22 years old. And I got her initials. Lovely. By the way, Tiff's amazing. Get on with her really well. And it says T.W. I love it when it's caveated with that. Well, you know, he got to. Because then she went, shall I get one of you? Shall I get your initials? And I went, no. I went, just don't. Just in case. I was like, we're young. And I went, I'm an idiot. I don't mind if like I have your initials forever more on my body. I can get a cover. I feel like for you, it's going to be like a little bit more of an issue.

12:28And like, just we're 22 years old. So just like, don't get it. And then one of the first things she said to me after we broke up with, so glad I didn't get your initials tattooed on me. I was like, there you go. I've got the name of a girl I met on a night out and never saw again. Is that one I'm saying though? Um, listen, uh, you know, a gentleman never tells, um, we had a good time and we, we, we had each other's names tattooed and that's, Still there? Where? It's similarly around. Gee, he loves a cocktail. Fucking loves it. I've got names on my hands and names. I've got names across different parts.

13:02So you're not bothered. You're just like, look, Mary or fairy or hairy or whatever it is. I've never dated anyone called hairy. But it just blends in because I'm just sort of... When I go on holiday, I look like a mouldy bit of broccoli and a pair of swim shorts. Just sort of a green mess, isn't it? It's like there's spinach in a pair of Wilbur creams. Okay, well, let's flip it then. If a girlfriend asked you to take a tattoo off, would you do that of a different girl? Yeah, she wanted. If she was like, I really wanted you to remove that. Yeah, if it really bothered her, then yeah, of course I would.

13:32Really? Yeah. I don't know if I would. It depends how we look at it, because your tattoos are, they're not really specific. They're just specifically awful to you. But if, you know, let's say you were dating someone. Obviously, we know you're not dating at the minute. you've said it a couple of times um but if if you were um and she went i don't like that cock on your arm yeah can you get rid of that absolutely not it's part of who i am part of who you are yeah yeah if let's say you went out with someone and well you don't have this issue because you don't have a post on instagram but like i would never delete past like x's or anything off my instagram for example if so not if the videos did well like if the optics were good then then you'd leave them You don't want to lose them numbers, do you, mate?

14:19The algorithm would be a real issue. The real fuck the algorithm there. But even like photos and stuff like that, like I would never, because I think it's like a history of you and like what you've been through. I've still got like every photo of me and Tiff back in the day on my Instagram. I can look back over the years of like a catalogue. Yeah, but you know what you can do is you can look back personally by having them on your phone, but the whole, I don't think the public are looking back at you over the years and looking back as memories and going, oh, do you remember that time he was with Tiff?

14:47so I don't think they need to see them so I don't think it matters if you publicly delete them, you can keep them in your own little memory and have a little cry about it but I don't think Debbie at home is going I just don't think I would Look at these, do you remember him with Tiff? I just don't think I would, I don't think I would delete my history, my past Well since you asked me a lot of questions, I've got a question for you Obviously I'm on this gym journey Have you been this week? I have been this week, I've been this morning but I'm just really struggling and I've decided that I think the main reason that I'm struggling is because no it's not even that mate it's diet I don't know what I'm supposed to be taking I just don't know what I'm supposed to be doing because it's a lot harder and all I just think I think because obviously you're going to the gym is you might be able to help but I think I need to get like a nutritionist and it would just be really good if I had someone who knew like just someone in that, do you know anyone like that could help me with the kind of the diet?

15:49Because it's the sugar content. I don't know what supplements I should be taking. I don't know what vitamins. And I just, I don't know anyone that's a nutritionist. Do you? I genuinely at the start of that was like, oh, I can help you out with that. Mate, I know the most amazing holistic nutritionist you've ever seen in your life. I thought I've ever seen that. Okay, all right. Well, you know, will it help if I just look at her? Is that what I need to do? No, mate, gut health, everything. Yeah, yeah, that's what I need. I know the best person for you. Oh, so you do know someone? Yeah. Because you needed a nutritionist?

16:25Just to help with your gym journey. It's just adding to the entourage, isn't it? You've got your glam squad, now you've got your own nutritionist. Just adding to your kind of entourage of people that kind of help out, haven't you? So it's nice to have a personal nutritionist, isn't it? Obviously, there wouldn't be another reason, because you said it on this podcast a couple of weeks ago that you weren't dating. There's a lot to go through when you're setting up these kind of diet plans and stuff. You really have to get on board with it. But if you could pass on the details of your nutritionist, because like I said, I am struggling at the gym and I could do with one.

16:52Well, I've always spoken to you about it. Yeah, but I need a professional. I was talking to her about you. Oh, excellent. Am I missing fibre? No, not at all. I just said that we were having more of a standard chat. I was like, you're going to love my best friend, Pete. You're having more of a standard chat? It wasn't a professional chat. You're having personal chats with her? I thought she was your nutritionist. So why would she need to know about me and Pippa? Oh, God damn it. Pippa, did you need a nutritionist then? No, I never asked one. Oh, it's okay because he's got one for us all. Yeah, no, they are expensive.

17:31How much do you pay? If you've got friends. I'm never going to date again. She's literally going to listen to this and be like, God, you suck. Do you know what is mental? The journal involved, right? got in touch with her lymphatic drainage person and went, sorry, you don't know who I am, but could you tell me, could you confirm whether Sam and you were dating a lymphatic drainage girl? Bloody hell. But that's how far they go. Do I need one of them as well? Mate, how mad is that? I've never seen how people go out and try and garner these things and dig up this shit. Like, that's fucking wild. Yeah, I mean, I've had fucking 12 years of it.

18:09Mate. It is pretty mental. Can I actually ask you a genuine, and I really mean this, by the way, because we joke about eight inches. Fucking fair play. What a girth. That's what I'm talking about. Oh, fucking hell, why? What, no, I actually genuinely mean this because I'm actually, I'm going to try and make this serious. I'm going to try and man-made this for five seconds. I'm actually slightly struggling with that whole side of like dating. in a general sense because I feel like it's like make putting me off but I don't want to be put off I do want to date but like every time I do it like it it gets dug up and then you just and now I actually fully see what you have had to go through for as long as you've had to go for it and I'm on it and I mean this with the bottom of my heart I actually have so much empathy for what you have genuinely been through like in the amount of years that you've had to deal with who's pete dating pete in a fucking alleyway if you're just talking to a girl no no but you're just or like pete with a new mystery woman it's your mom like i haven't even had that level right and it's really affecting my my like my head because every time we all want to find i mean i want to find the one we all want to find as human beings we want to find the fucking one and now i feel like i can't because every time you do, you look like a fucking love rat.

19:34Oh, you're a love rat? No. Then what does it matter? It's just shit, man. It's just so unfair. I completely get it, but that's the only way you can, it's the only way to get through all that sort of stuff is, you know, and listen, a lot of the reason that I've always had so much shit is because I was a fucking love rat. I was a fucking complete s**t and I can't get away from that no matter what I do. I cannot get away. It's the go-to. As soon as I date someone or then dating someone else, it's it's that i'm i'm i'm not i'm no different how i was fucking 12 years ago um so you know i've only got myself to blame for for some of that shit but it does make it really difficult but at the end of the day if you know what you're doing is right and and you know let people talk they're going to anyway they're going to make stuff up anyway there is a million fucking rumors about this that and the other but you do you because the minute you start doing what other people want to do is that's that's when you lose yourself and that's when you lose the authenticity that you are as a person.

20:28And one of the best things that you are or I am or anyone in this fucking room is that no one thinks, feels and does things the way that you do. And the minute you lose that for other people because of a fear what other people are going to say is the minute you become something you don't want to be. So it does make it difficult, mate, but you can't stop yourself. You can't stop living your life for fear of what people are going to say or what the press are going to do because that's no way to fucking live. So if you want to fucking go out and date You can do whatever you want to do and go and do it.

20:58We're going to find the one, mate. I have a feeling this year we're going to find the one. I have a feeling that this year I'll die.

21:07Of what? Can I ask? I'm intrigued. No. Anyway, so. Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. We're talking about love, mate. And there's only one way to go from here. Oh, no. There's only one segue that works after that conversation about love. Love Island is finishing this Sunday. It's been fucking wild. I mean, obviously, you know about this. We're going to have our final Love Island update of the year right now. How do you feel about that? Honestly, I'm doing everything to not just break down in tears right now. Do you have any strong winners? Who do you think is going to? Yeah, I do.

21:56I think Belle's going to win there's no Belle there's a lot of Bells in there I Helen's going to win Helena yes yeah I reckon Helen's going to who's she with oh she's with the little you yeah Helen and Pam and Sam they're going to win do you know what the funny thing is so when we were doing After Sun they were like and we were like oh we should talk about the the sit on your face comment on Twitter they were like oh yeah maybe we should and then they went oh we probably shouldn't can't do it and in my head I went yeah no that's right I went, fuck, we've just done all of that on the podcast. We even reimagined her sitting on my face with Pete crouching onto my mouth.

22:33Do you ever wonder, like, I was sat at home last night and, like, I couldn't stop thinking, like, do you ever wonder what it'd be like to sit around the fire pit? Honestly, like, I nearly drove around to yours and pulled you for a chat. Because I just thought, you know, I just want to know what's going on with that connection. You wheeling in, like, you know, like Joey, Joey Essex did, just sort of like, just coming in, all right, ladies, how are we? You've got a snare in it. I do have a question for you, though, before we move on. What does life after Love Island look for a lot of these couples, then, do you think?

23:04How do you see all of their relationships panning out after they leave the villa? It's been quite a turbulent season, by the way. The first three months are going to be tough because, obviously, they have to get to the end of those relationship contracts. And it's always a struggle because you're kind of forced to be with someone for three months. So it's difficult because when you can't stand them and you've got outside implements, obviously they're going to have a lot more attention. So it's tough for the guys to pretend they give a fuck about their girl when there's loads of women throwing themselves at them.

23:33The girls are going to have to deal with the influx of premiership footballers who are flying in the DMs, as well as some of the lower leagues. So that's going to be tough. You've also got to deal with the press and everything else. You've then got to find a short-term tenancy agreement because you can't sign for a year because you know it's not going to last that long. So you just need to do it month by month. And they're running out in London. It's tough to do. Manchester's not bad for that sort of thing. You can generally do month by month, which is why a lot of them move up there. But it is going to be really difficult.

24:04It's going to be tough for them. Because you've got loads of influencer events and all sorts of things to go to. There is going to be the inaugural fight for the big brand deals. Of course. And that is... Some of which I think have already been decided. There's nothing you can do at this point. you know but what you can do is come out and and and sort of on your first shopping trip just tag every shop that you walk into and just hope that someone sees it and something comes in for the lads it's you know the the PAs used to be the thing back in the day they're kind of dying out a little bit but you will get the call up in sort of Scunthorpe and Cardiff so you need to make the most of that and if you do well then then then happy days I suggest you get a tour manager because what you don't want to do is get caught fingering someone at that point because it's real tough to come back from that and then it is and then you have breached your contract um your relationship contract and um it will make it harder for you to get that short-term tenancy agreement so it's it's tough it's tough they're gonna struggle when they come out basically yeah yeah they are really gonna struggle you know what's so funny is that pete's given a rundown of like what you know the sort of like the skeptic would think about a lot of these things do you know what what's crazy i'm not going to mention who he is for obvious reasons but someone i met a few weeks ago um who had been on love island and had broken up with somebody when uh yeah like you know we'd broken up but there was like this really big job that'd come in that we were both gonna do so you know i just said you know we should probably just stay together um just for that little bit longer just so we could do the job and he was i was really fucked off because then she like did that she did her instagram story and we hadn't timed up properly and i was like this is fucking mental like actually they were talking about it like it was a job i just want to put out there though because you know we've just spoken about the press and and the public and i know people get really involved um when the um inevitable um breakup posts come through please actually do respect their privacy all right you know it's it's it's tough enough breaking up with someone that you've known for three and a half minutes it doesn't need all of your opinions just respect their privacy guys come on these are big announcements these are big times in their lives there is a one lady called Lucy who sadly got booted out recently.

26:11Lovely girl. She got done recently for a voice note that came out while she was in the villa of her talking to her friend, basically being like, yeah, so my game plan is I'm going to go in, I'm going to get with Tommy who was the most liked guy at the time and that should get me to the final. And then I think she called one of the girls and they were a bitch or something and that voice note got leaked. But did she own it? She fucking did. She said, fair play. She sat there on Aftersun. Well, then she should win. Make her win. Everyone vote for Lucy. And everyone online is actually saying, well, of course they have a game plan.

26:48Of course you're going to go in and want to get to the final. Absolutely. Like, you know, at the end of the day, you're not going to fuck off. Where are they fucking out of South Africa? Mallorca. So they're not fucking off to Mallorca for fucking six weeks to find love. They're there for a fucking free holiday and to get a few quid out of it. And if people said that, there's no problem with doing that. Do you know what I mean? Like it's a kickstart to a career that they might want. That's a fucking great thing. You should be proud of that. Do you know what I mean? Like people did that, I'd be like, yeah, fucking fair play.

27:20That's why I love it when people go in and go, no, I'm just here for the... I watched a clip the other day that came up on my fucking Instagram now. And I don't know if it's because I don't trust these fucking phones. I'm telling you, they're taking over. It comes up on the fucking Instagram of someone going, you know, came here looking for love. And I thought, you... Of course you didn't. If you find it, great. Happy days. We know people that have actually gone and found people in there, and that's fucking brilliant. But don't lie to me. Well, look, moving on from Love Island, because I think...

27:50And that is our final Pete Wicks Love Island update. Oh, no, it won't be, because I can guarantee you next week we can talk about who's won. Well, I mean, you know, we'll see what the people think. You know, if they want to see it, they can see it. Well, maybe we'll put a poll up. but um i i i do have a little bone to pick with pete um we don't spend all that much time together at the moment because he's super duper busy and that is true he's he's doing god's work he's working with the animals and um you know you are just a very very very busy man so we don't spend much time together and there isn't any time because well there is because i was at dinner on Saturday night, out for a friend's birthday.

28:26And who should walk in? Peter James Jonathan Joseph Wicks with his other best friend, Olivia Atwood, her sister and her makeup artist. No, he's not a makeup artist. With Ryan, who's like her assistant stylist and best friend. Assistant stylist and best friend. And Peter clearly decided that that was the better option than to give his other best mate a bell and see what he was up to. Well, no, because actually, I'll be honest with you, Sam's out quite regularly at the minute. You know, he was out with the boys on the Saturday night, which he normally does. I wasn't invited. I didn't get a message about it.

29:05So that was, you know, nothing to do with it. It's not like he invited me out and I went, so no, sorry, I'm staying in. And then suddenly I turned up out. And the rest of the nights, obviously, you know, I don't get a look in because obviously you need to look after your gut health. So I go out for a few drinks with Liv. And a few other people, Liv's sister, which is just brilliant because we'd just sent Sam a video, me and Liv, literally 15 minutes before. Didn't know Sam was out of Liv's sister because Sam has a... Basically, he's got a crush on Liv's sister. All right, let's be honest. He's met her once at Liv's birthday.

29:42And at Liv's birthday, he asked her to marry him. He'd known her for roughly 90 seconds. She is happily married, by the way, and has a fabulous job. but she's like, she's very much like Liv as in like personality, everything. She's fucking great. So anyway, so we walk into the restaurant and as I am outside having a cigarette, Sam comes bounding out and goes, what are the chances? I went, what are you doing here? And you were there with all the boys. We actually sat on the table next to them. It was the best thing ever. He was literally on the table next to me and I was just like, I can't believe, how weird is this?

30:21So then Sam was doing the usual, because it was around about nine o 'clock at this point, and that is Sam's peak tequila time. Because between nine and ten, Sam tries to do as many tequilas as he can. And then between sort of ten and the next morning, it's at what point will I die? Because he's done so many in that hour. So he forces everyone else, because as soon as Sam feels drunk, what Sam does is think everyone else must be drunker. So he'll just order loads of tequilas. And what he thinks that I don't know is that he'll make sure you see him do one or maybe two. And then what he'll do is all go, I've done one, I've done one, and just start passing them around.

31:00I've just done nine of them in a row. And you've seen him do two and think he may have, but I know he hasn't. So then what he did was just keep coming to my table whilst I wasn't really drinking that much. I was trying to be fucking good and just keep giving me tequilas. He'd just walk up to the table, just hear him go, go on, go on. I'd have to do this keeler and then go and sit down. At one point I went to the toilet. I came back and he was sat in my chair, which was next to Liv's sister. And she had asked him to get up. Because what Sam did was sit next to her and just stare. Then Sam went.

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33:22I love you. That's literally what he said to her. She went, okay, Pete's back now. You can get up. Then Sam decided what would be a great idea. He was to go, we should all just have a night out together. Didn't happen. It did not happen, no. I invited all of them out. I was like, we should all go to a bar together. And people were like, no, no, no, we're having an early night. We're having an early night. Well, clearly not, because I looked at your Instagram the next day. Liv was in a state, clearly, like being like, you're obviously still pissed. And I was like, well, you obviously all went out.

33:57You just didn't want to go out of us. Me and Liv had radio next day, and I got in at about half past six. Fucking ridiculous. Liv turned up to radio, and bless her. Like, yeah, she was not in a fucking good way. She turned up in her pyjamas and slippers. And, yeah, it was a real fucking struggle. She spent the entire day just trying to change the running order and just writing cock on it so that I'd say cock on. It's what she does every time. So I'll be reading, you know, the cash reads. We're doing a cash read. It gets your chance to win 542 ,000 cocks because she changes it and you're just fucking going to autopilot, don't you?

34:34Does it every time. Hilarious for her. But anyway, yeah, she was not in a good way. She was not in a good way at all. But, you know, it was a fun night. Everyone had a fun night. I feel like you've gone from, you know, we're going to have booze up till 6am to really sort of feel good Peter James. Because later this week, you're off on your Copperfield trek to Iceland, aren't you? And you do this every single year. Tomorrow. It's something that I love about Pete. It goes off, I'm going to let you explain it, but I think it's really, really beautiful. Where are you going? What are you doing? So, yeah, I'm off tomorrow to Iceland with Copperfield.

35:09I've done Sahara, Mont Blanc. I've done all sorts of bits with them. Tomorrow we are in Iceland. It is honestly one of my favourite kind of weeks of the year. It's such a fabulous charity. I mean, it's tough. It's emotionally tough, but such fucking fabulous and amazing people. So for the rest of the week, I'm going to be sort of up a mountain, crossing ravines with no phone, which I'm quite looking forward to. Do a bit camping, a lot of singing, Team Pete. The wetter the better is my chant normally because it's going to be pissing down the rain for the next four days. What I haven't done because I've been so busy is order any hiking gear really whatsoever.

35:49So last year I actually hiked the first three days up Mont Blanc in a vest, a pair of jeans and flip-flops. So I haven't got any of the fucking gear. I don't know how this is going to go. Apparently it's raining a lot and I will probably be in jeans and a vest. Not even joking. I look like, I just look like some bloke who got lost. Like everyone's in full part of like, regatta fucking outdoor gear and waterproofs. And then there's just me and a pair of Levi's. It's so good, mate. What you do there every year is fucking beautiful. And I've met some of the Copperfield girls who've been on these treks with you.

36:24Have you? Yeah. They came to some of the shows. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. And they are, they absolutely adore you. And what you do is, and what they do, and what everyone's doing for Copperfield is so fucking great. Yeah, it's Giovanna Fletcher who organises this every year and she's just fucking, she's just incredible. But listen, it's one of them things, it's fuck all to do with me, it's nothing to do with me, it's to do with them and the amount of money that Copperfield raises and everything is just fucking incredible. So if you can, please check out Copperfield and donate where you can because it's such an amazing charity to help build a community for survivors of breast cancer and people who've, you know, got connection to what is a fucking horrendous, horrendous thing.

37:09So, yeah, anyway. We can get links actually up on the socials as well. So we'll drop those links down. You can click them and potentially donate because who doesn't want to see Pete in flip-flops and a fucking tank top scaling some mountain in Iceland whilst he's got two fags on the go as well and probably a little canister of, canister? Probably a little something of vodka sort of like stowed away somewhere as well. Funnily enough, the WhatsApp group for... Are you in a GC? I'm in a GC. Pete's in a group chat. I'm in a GC for people, which is like kind of the organisers and everything else. And the first message that came through yesterday when the group was set up, what's the tequila plan?

37:51I'm looking at you, Pete. And that is because I don't really take a lot of kit. So what happens is when I get to the airport, I fill my fucking 60 litre fucking rucksack with tequila. And you can just hear me clinking along the mountain. But listen, you never know when you need a tequila, do you know what I mean? Like when the rain is pouring down and you're fucking emotionally drained and physically drained, I tell you what, I fucking lift your spirits. Have a Craig David. I completely agree with that. So, yeah, I think my only use there really is to kind of, everyone calls me donkey. because I just carry everything.

38:27I just carry things and then pour shots. Do you, you know, I'll do something. I don't know if there's anything I can do, but if there's anything you need, I'll be there. I mean, there is always a lot of calls for you to join at some point. Is there? Yeah. I'll be there. Well, we can look at it. All right. So we're doing like 150 kilometres through the Sahara in four days in. I would fucking love that. All right. Well, you think I can't do it? No, I think you can do it. I'd love to do that. Yeah. Okay. Mate, physically, of course you can fucking. You just fucking walked the entire fucking earth.

39:09Well, no, ran, sorry. Not walked. Hobbled. Cycled. Did everything. You did an amazing thing. So physically, of course you could fucking do it, mate. That's not the fucking issue. Okay. you heard it here first we're doing the Sahara I mean we have to be selected oh right okay we might be doing the Sahara I'm going to apply they might yeah they might not want us that's a good point it's not sort of like a guarantee like oh no we'll definitely take them you know anyway so yeah so that's that but that's all good you're not just doing that though mate you're a fucking subway surfer now as well don't say that you're not getting things done you're a tuber the hardest thing that I've done this week is I've got the tube twice I got the tube in this morning during rush hour.

39:52I think you're starting to quite like it because you're realising how much time it saves you. Well, yeah, because yesterday I left my house at 7.45 and I got here at 9.45 yesterday morning and I was fucking raging. So I got the, I then had to go and do a podcast. So I got the tube there and the tube back from the podcast and I was only gone for two hours, including the podcast, which was amazing. And this morning, so I thought I'd get the tube in. And it was vile. Vile. Okay, well, a couple of questions. You fuckers that get the tube stink. You stink. Interestingly enough, Pete was born scum. Oh, I'm still scum.

40:37And now suddenly is above you all. No, no, no, no. I am still scum. But I'll tell you what I am is I'm clean scum. All right? It's got nothing to do with fucking. It's just hygiene, kids. Come on now. How do you stink at that time in the morning? It's so hot. I'm hot. I smell like a fresh summer's meadow. It is mental. Honestly, if I get the tube again, I'm just going to carry Febreze. Do you make eye contact with anyone? A force field. Yeah, it was a lot. I did a couple of videos this morning and spoke to someone's daughter, who was on her way to school. Really cute. Big Strictly fan. And she was really cute.

41:17She screamed down the phone. which burst my eardrum. But it was, yeah, it's a lot. It is very hot. It is very sweaty. It stresses me out. I don't fucking like it. I don't like it. But it does save time. There's no getting away as well on the tube. You're just there, you're locked in. I literally put up a story on my thing yesterday saying I do exist. As I was swapping, because I had to make a change, and you get the Wi-Fi and the fucking thing, someone then went, oh, it does exist. And just... I can get... Like, I'm a big grown adult. Like, I don't know why it's so mental. I came in this morning and Annalise went, God, you're fucking early.

41:54I went, well, I've got the tube. And she went, it's just, it's not right. What do you mean? What do you mean it's not right? I can't imagine you sat there silently with your hands on each leg, just sort of like, just existing on the tube. Is that, sorry, is that tube etiquette then? What? I know, I just can't imagine. That's how I see you sat on the tube. I stand. Do you hold on to the thing? Yeah. This morning, I gave my seat to this old lady and then I had my fucking AirPods in and then she kept trying to talk to me. And like, she was lovely, but you've got the seat. Sit down and shut up. Because I kept having to pull them out like that.

42:29Do you know what? I can't even imagine, like, this is such a niche example. But like, so Pete was standing up and he's holding onto the rail at the top, right? You know when like the tube sort of like shudders like that and you sort of like wait from side to side. I can't imagine Pete like leaning from side to side as the tube is like coming into the station or moving off. I've got a really good centre of gravity, wide stance. I can imagine you, I bet you really plant them fucking feet on the tube, don't you? Yeah, yeah, I don't move. I actually fell over on the tube a couple of days ago. It was fucking embarrassing.

42:59Yeah, I don't. Oh, I'll tell you what I did see this morning. I was, bless her, this fucking poor woman, I was walking down the side, she was on the phone, she was in her heels and her heel got stuck in the thing and she went straight over. She was only quite young and you know when you see something from across the road, and I couldn't help it, I stopped and just watched as she tried to get up off the floor, because it was a busy fucking road, so I couldn't get across there. And everyone just walked past her, and I felt fucking awful. She was trying to pick all that shit come out of her bag, and she was only a fucking young girl.

43:29And if I could have got across, you know, it was just so busy, so I just watched, and then I felt awful, because I was just there going... I couldn't get across because it was so busy. But people just walked past her in the middle of rush hour. Why is everyone such a c**t? Like, honestly, you know when things like happen, you think, surely someone would stop, literally just walking past her. People were stepping over her things. And I was just like, this fucking poor girl is probably mortified. You know when that feeling of being like, if you fall over, being mortified, then having to scramble on her hands and knees to pick stuff up.

43:59And people just stepping over. Like, fucking, we are a society full of ****. But, great to watch. I've actually been stepped over before. Oh, mate, isn't it bad though? I've been stepped over by an ex-girlfriend. yeah it was even worse what do you mean i left i'd got just broken up with his girlfriend and i was in a nightclub and i just can't as you know like get pissed very easily and um no you're in training at the minute you're doing well and i got the bouncer ushered me out the out the club and um i just broke up with this girl the girl that i had bought on a date to make her jealous in the nightclub ended up hooking up with someone else.

44:42And so I was just to drown my sorrows. I got really pissed. They got escorted out of the nightclub going, you need to go home, you're too pissed. I was like, no, no, no, no. Fell over in the little gutter right next to the entrance of the thing. She walked out with another guy and stepped over me. And my friends came out and went, come on, big guy, let's take you home. I'm going to be really honest with you I think you should stop telling stories and the reason that I think that is because that is going to make the press because last week that was years and years and years ago so was when you got punched at a seaside result but that made the fucking press the headline is actually Sam punched by child at seaside result because of the story you told and I looked at it and I thought what the fuck is that I don't even remember the story and literally so all the journalists listen you don't have to do your job just listen to the pod it's fine just lift things out But it's the best headline I've ever seen because I thought it happened recently.

45:38So I clicked straight on it because I was like, what's happened to him? I thought you'd maybe gone and done a job like for this morning and some kid had just walloped you in the face. How much would you have loved that? I'd have fucking loved it. I'd have absolutely loved it. Sam gets decked by a 10-year-old. But anyway. Right. We can't get through like a pod, I don't think, this week. without mentioning possibly one of my favourite things that's ever happened. You know, like, I'm not a big fan of fucking meme-y type stuff and I don't follow all that sort of stuff. But this week I've been locked in.

46:19Is that right? Yeah. Dialed in. I've been dialed in. It's on fucking lock and key. Whatever. I don't know. Dialed in, yeah. This fucking CEO affair Coldplay thing, Let's all just take a minute, all right, because there is so much to unpick. Chris Martin, what a fucking legend. I always thought he was a prick. But after this week, I mean, it's just the best thing I've ever seen. I genuinely, if you don't know, basically, this CEO of what's the company? Astronomy. Huge fucking company. He's in a box to watch Coldplay. And Chris Martin does this thing where he goes around the audience and goes, let's see how people are having a good time and, you know, couples.

47:05And this guy is in the box and it goes straight up, full face on him. And he's got his arms round this fucking woman and they're having a great time. Chris Martin goes, oh, look at them. This guy then drops to his knees and the woman runs off. Chris Martin then goes, oh, oh, they're obviously really shy or they're having an affair. As it turns out, they are having an affair. Both are married, all right? Both work for the same company. She's head of HR. She's head of HR, which is the fucking best part of it. Is it not the best thing you've ever seen? Mate, it is so fucking great. And it is one of those things where you, he actually did a statement afterwards blaming Coldplay.

47:47Being like, we were just there for a good time and now we're like the fucking, the apple of the world's eye, not in the best way. What? You know how I got deceived? Yeah, by AI. That statement's AI. Is it? That's not the true thing where he uses the Coldplay lyrics. I did the same thing, mate. Mate, and he was going, I went, that's the fucking... That's AI. Mate, I found this out because I went, what a guy fucking used the Coldplay lyrics. And I went, that's not real. That's not... Mate, we're getting deceived. Left, right and fucking the robots are taking over. We're never going to know what's real and what's not.

48:22I just don't know. I just don't know what's happening. Fucking hell. But... What would you do, right? Okay, so... Because I've actually thought what I would do. not that I would ever have an affair. But if I'm caught in that situation, I am just staying put. Mate, no one's going to fucking know. It wasn't live streamed or anything. So really only the people in that fucking thing. So the only way, there was a chance you could get away, if he'd just gone with it or not reacted so badly. But what I do like the internet for is now all the AI crap of all these different things of him throwing her over the edge and fucking, they're just fucking everywhere.

48:57Like it's just fucking great. but he's fucked it for himself, both of them. Their reaction fucked it because now it's obviously gone fucking viral everywhere. I mean, it is just fucking wild. I don't know what the update is. The fact that she's head of HR is the best thing ever. I wonder if she went to work on fucking Monday morning and had a sit down and a fucking discipline with herself. Give herself a written warning. There's a lot of people who have tweeted, like, people who work at this company being like, what's work like Monday? Like, what's it been like on Monday? I mean, what would you do if it happened within our office?

49:36Well, technically, I'm head of HR and you're CEO. Sam, Sam, do you want to fuck? Let's say we had another guy, yes. But let's say we had another guy, right? Let's say we had another guy, a make-believe guy here and a make-believe girl here. So we won't put any of the girls, you know, we're not going to put them to the forefront. and they got caught at that kind of thing. I don't think, and so they'd both be having affairs on partners, but who didn't work for us. I feel like you'd send them on a romantic weekend away. I probably would. Love is love. I wouldn't discipline them. I'd be like, look, guys, that's your personal life.

50:15As long as you're working, you know, well. Well, the company is astromo, whatever the company is. Oh, just struggled with the spelling there, did we? Astromoma. I have Astromoma. So that's why I thought it was a genre and then I looked at it and thought, oh, maybe it's Astromoma. So the company has had more internet traffic than ever. So obviously a scandal, you know, could be good for business. I mean, staying relevant as we are, I think we should hire a couple of people and just set them up, maybe at the O2, and we'll stage something and then maybe stream it and then go fucking all week with the O2, the biggest night of our lives, and look what they were doing, fucking in the green room, and then just see what happens.

51:00We should have our own scandal. Yeah. Oh, my God. It's got to involve you, though. Why? Why am I the scapegoat? I think you should be the scapegoat for the scandal. Well, I think right now, mate, if anyone is hot topic, I think it should be you. We need a scandal. Do you know what? We could actually take this to the polls. We could ask the people, what would be... Why do you keep wanting to take everything to the polls? Oh, I love a poll. I love a poll. Like, what would you, the listeners, like, favourite staying relevant scandal be? I'll tell you what. Actually, the listeners know everyone. Who do you think is most likely to be involved in a scandal?

51:32That's such a good... I know they're going to say me. That's the funny thing. I know for a fact they're going to say me. Who do you think is most likely to be involved in a scandal in the staying relevant team? If we can organise that for someone to put up one of, you know, take it to the polls. Take it to the polls, baby. It's just fucking wild. I feel like their lives will never be the same. He's actually been pinned off, I think. I think he's been booed out. Sex himself? I think he's definitely been put on leave. Well, yeah, you have to be, really. His wife has already taken his second name out of her Facebook.

52:04Fucking hell. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Oh, she changed the status so it's complicated. That is fucking wild. Sorry, was that good social? That was good then, wasn't it? Thanks. Oh, so you just ruined it with that. Oh. Yeah, you had the table there, Pete. Yeah, fucking, anyway, let's see. Let's see what happens. I'm really, it's like a soap opera. I love it. That's the sort of thing that, maybe he could go on some sort of Love Island. They'll become like, like Hock Tour girl. Hock Tour. What's happened to her? Hock Tour. She actually, she's got, she's got Vodcast. All right, Kira. She has. Has she actually?

52:40Yeah, she was a Hock Tourist or something. She'd be a great guest. I would love her as a guest. Do you know who I'd also love as a guest? Justin Bieber. Well, that's because you've spent years just trying to emulate his effortless kind of cool thing. You know when you did the skinny jean hoodie thing to every event but wore a nice watch because it meant that you were rich but actually looked poor? It was, listen, I feel like he's a bit of an idol of yours. He's back with a brand new album. Ooh, baby, baby, baby, ooh. That was about 20 years ago, that one. He's only about 20, isn't he? No, he's 30.

53:15Fuck off. How old do you feel now? What? He's old, mate. He's like our age. My age. No, he's not my age. Not my age. Oh, fucking, I'm buzzing for that. Fucking, I'm a believer. I actually am a believer. It's called swag. Oh, swaggity, swag, swag. Swaggity, skibbity, riz. Yeah, baby. What's the call, man? Well, look. Dude, tell me about it. Illy, bro. Illy. But it's, you know, he's actually. he's got an album out, but that's not actually why he's in the press at the moment. He's in the press because of his misses. So she owns a company called road. Have you heard of road before? No, it's like a cosmetic brand road.

54:01And it's like worth like billions of dollars already. And she's just done a brand trip. And he's on that brand trip with her. They went to Mallorca. People saying she's ready. He's happening in Mallorca at the minute. Well, mate, she's revolutionized the PR trip world. Apparently. How has she revolutionised it? Well, because everything's yellow. What? She's made everything yellow. Because the new lip gloss that's coming out is a yellow lip gloss, a lemon lip gloss. So people are saying that she's revolutionised the PR brand trip world because everything that they're doing, whether it's a jet ski or a boat, is yellow.

54:38I mean, it is genius. How would you get to that?

54:44mate people are fucking dying like they're literally like i it's the best i've ever seen like she's a marketing genius just because she's changed things to yellow this this isn't serious legit people are literally going i would pay i'd give a kidney to be on that brand trip right now so no i'm no i don't get it i don't get it so what is she so what is different about her trip Well, nothing. She's just basically done an Instagram trip. And everything they're doing is yellow. So whether, as I say, the jet ski, or whether they've got like little lemons that they serve to people. Which has been done a million times before.

55:19But just even a bedroom brand could probably manage that. Mate, people are going wild for it. Wild. Shit. I wonder if there's time for us to change the colour of these seats. Do you think the lemon would look good? What the fuck? You cannot be... What is wrong with people? What is wrong with you? Firstly, why do you listen to this? That's weird in itself. But what is wrong with people? So basically, did she invent yellow? No. Is it a new colour? Her lip gloss is yellow. Is that weird? Is lip gloss normally yellow? It's just a lemon-flavoured lip gloss, really. So it's not even yellow. It's just flavoured like lemon.

55:58Yeah. So why the fuck is the jet ski yellow? Just because it's sort of, I guess it's just marketed that way. But people are loving it. She's got loads of influencers out there. So I feel like it's the ultimate influencer brand trip. Are there any influencers that we know? Any from the UK? No, they're all American. It's funny, that, isn't it? It's funny, that, isn't it? If only Helen had come out a couple of weeks earlier. She could have been straight on there. Fucking mental. What do you think about brand trips? What do I think about them? Well, we've done a couple. Have we? Sam, we've been skiing.

56:32We've been to LA. We've been to Colorado. that's just me and you to film like a genuine a general video for a brand I'm talking about like brand trip with like 10 influencers I've done one before skiing oh with Crystal Crystal Ski yeah but I'm talking about like the ones where they where they go right so this week I'm in Ibiza with whoever and then next week I'm in San Japan and then the week after that I'm in Mallorca and then the week after that I'm going to be really really careful because like genuinely you know I've dated influencers as have you it is fucking quite tough like you're constantly fucking floating Do you know what I mean?

57:05They've got a... Sorry, boy. Well, it's now an actual job, isn't it? Right, Molly, mate. They've only got 24 hours in a day. And it's just... Their life is just so goddamn hard, man. No. To get that angle on that pic. Like, I know how it feels because I'm trying to do the same thing on my gram at the moment. I mean, yeah. It's tough. Well, exactly. Look how tough you're finding it to make anything interesting on your gram. Like, it's tough to fucking do because trying to get all that content and the rest of it. but also it's not a fucking job is it do you know what I mean like I mean like if you let me finish this is where we're getting at like it's they have to constantly fucking try and do all this sort of stuff and it sounds fucking but they're living out fucking suitcases they can never fucking tie down a relationship and do anything which is why they're always doing stuff and it looks great but I imagine it's quite fucking miserable I always wonder that I feel like we know quite a few but I've never asked actually I feel like we should start asking I'd love to know like what it is like because they must get a point to a point where like, right, you've always got to look good.

58:05You've always got to look good. Do you know what I mean? And you're always travelling somewhere to like, to like go and line a lilo in some pool. Like, Yeah, or just like, you know, be yellow. Fuck, it's tough, man. But they're not fucking minions. But realistically, you don't have a home. I do think that though. You don't have a home, do you? Well, that's what I mean. Like, it's like, I couldn't do it. I think it's what I'm saying is I couldn't do it. I couldn't deal with a fucking track. It would just do my head in. And also, we've done some of these things before. It's someone else going, do this at this time, do this at that time.

58:37Fuck off. Do it yourself. But that is the thing, isn't it? It's organised fun throughout the day for all of these influences. That's my problem is it's organised fun. I couldn't do it. So that's why I think it's fucking tough. Always having to look good. Always fucking being moving about. Always being told what to do. I just, just not for me. And often as well, and listen, you know, we do this as well. you have to do things the things you don't like because it pays you but for like especially like fashion influencers I really love this skirt it's fucking hideous you know it's hideous you know it you know it's awful we can all see it's awful you know it's awful you've looked in the mirror and gone this is awful but you're gonna have to tell everyone it's great couldn't do it couldn't do it but um but yeah I mean look I see it's maybe we should organize an influencer event see if we can make it more fun.

59:28I would absolutely love to do that. I mean, technically, let's be honest, if we get to Vegas with Avios, we're kind of all going to be on a brand trip. I mean, we are. Technically, we are, actually. But not with loads of other influencers. Well, we can see if we can train these to be influencers. People almost is, to be fair. So, Pete, we on this podcast like to do a Pete Reacts segment, which you've come to know and love. For the listeners right now, he has just rocked his head backwards. Normally it's a Love Island themed-esque thing or, you know, something that he really hates. So let's see if we can sort of keep that up with this week's Pete Reacts.

1:00:10Now, this is a little bit different, Pete. You're going to have to shut your eyes. No. No, you are. You're going to have to shut your eyes. I do not trust you. Mate, it's not right. Mate, Pippa, tell him. Please may you shut your eyes. Shut your eyes. Trust me. Remember the goats. I'm telling you now. Yeah. I'm fucking telling you now, right? Yeah. If he fucking touches me, shaves my eyebrow, does anything like that, I will do time. If you let him physically, physically, without my consent, touch me, I will, I'll hold you responsible. Maybe a bollock in the, in the, in the palm of your hand. This is what I mean.

1:00:46See what I mean? He's going to get his cock out and rub it across my cheek. On my life. On my life. But I need you, I need you to close your eyes. Close your eyes. Put your hands over your eyes. Okay. There we go. Right. Just get the door one second. Get the door. Two seconds over your mind. Just getting the door. Just going to... Here we go. Quickly. Any minute now. Just going to really quickly... Now put your hands out. Put your hands out quickly. Eyes still closed. Eyes still closed. Eyes closed, but put your hands out, Pete. Hands out. Eyes closed.

1:01:22Oh, my God. It's a dog. I can smell it. It's a dog. It's a dog. You can open your eyes.

1:01:29Welcome to all the ladies of Dogs Trust who are here in the building with us. So for everyone listening, we have got the lovely team at Dogs Trust. Charlotte and Becky, everyone's here. Charlotte, Becky. When are you on holiday, Lisa? The whole team. Lisa's here. And they have bought you some, I believe, are they called Pugaloos? Puggleers Puggleers we've bought you some Puggleer puppies to say hello to you Peter because we are at Staying Relevant so incredibly proud of what you're doing for your dog show and how much time you're putting into it and how much help you are giving dogs trust and how much help you're giving to all the dogs you're going to fucking make me cry so we thought that we would bring the entire team in to give you the things that you love the most which is puppies in your arms Pete, we're so fucking proud of you.

1:02:24We love you so much. And your whole team are here just to show you how much they love you. He's crying. Pete, do you want to know the best bit? What? Is it that one? That one you've got there on your lap is called Olive. It's called Olive. Yeah. Baby Olive. It's Olive. Yeah. And we have four Pugalier puppies here from the Fabulous Dogs Trust. They are a cross between Pugs and King Charles Cavalier Spaniels. Pete is still stroking Olive. They've got a really lovely Bond already, you can see. I'm sorry, I'm just looking in the background whilst Galeen and Hannah just put down puppy pads everywhere.

1:03:04But also, this is obviously to shout out about you and what you're doing, and we are obviously in the midst of For Dog's Sake, which is the season two of For Dog's Sakes, actually. So if you want to do a little bit of a chat about that and what you guys are doing. Do you know what, Lisa? come and jump in here Lisa come and take a seat come on so we have the entire Dogs Trust well not the entire I'm sure but we have a large amount of the Dogs Trust team here I'm also we've got Kelly Charlotte Lisa and Becky okay Charlotte Lisa and Becky okay Lando's all over the gaff I've got his bum in my face Penelope is now like get off me Lando it's all kicking off we've lost one right we've lost Lando we do have Penelope but sorry I'm so confused Sam you're going to have to fucking just I'm in love this is what happens whenever we're filming the show i'm lost when there's a puppy um lisa could you tell us about these puppies and uh and also obviously what you guys are doing with dog state season two as well so yeah so we're currently filming uh for dog state season two which has just been so much fun again so these little guys came into us a couple of weeks ago now wasn't it so they're four months old they were an unwanted litter so um the family had two unspayed adult dogs in the home and nature took its course and this is the the outcome of that so um they did the sensible thing and when the pups were old enough they gave them to us and so we have now looking for homes for them i think these ones have got homes haven't they have they yeah so super cute super cute all homing with me um it's the hardest thing is is is not taking every fucking dog i say every time don't know that every dog is my favorite everything the latest dog i meet is my favorite but yeah I mean look we're we were so fucking blessed with series one to get a series two and three and the Christmas special and I honestly it's it's my favorite thing in the world to do without a shadow of a doubt and the majority of the reason for that is not only because of the dogs but it's because of these guys I think just from the start that it was just that we've known each other for a long time haven't we and there was just that instant connection and we've like Mel and Nicole, the producer and director as well, it was like family from day one, wasn't it?

1:05:17Yeah, it's just the fucking best thing ever. It's not a fucking job. But I've said it a million times before as well, like, you know, the show is just so fabulous and it might have my name on it, but it's fuck all to do with me. It's to do with all of you and it's to do with all of the dogs and what you guys do. You're actual heroes to me. I said this to you the other day when we were travelling somewhere in the car, that you're someone I look up to so much. Every single one of you, I think you're fucking incredible. I genuinely genuinely do and I cannot believe you've all come here today that really made me fucking cry it's so funny because we've come into your house like normally you're coming into our house and now it just completes off around so it's really gross let's talk about that ever so slightly coming into your house as Pete Wicks you're now sort of co-workers I imagine what's Pete like as a co-worker when he walks in do you have his briefcase that he brings in I mean we're talking about it in the cards and what we kind of came to the conclusion that we all kind of think the same thing that he's a bit of a prick yeah i wouldn't be i'm not surprised at all um if him if him storming into this office is anything to go by the fun and games that we have before pete walks in here and then suddenly it's like right kids calls all of us kids goes right kids we're off so i don't know if he does that to you guys no i think you know something happened last week actually that kind of sums up how pete works with us and we had um a a person some member of the public came in and they had what we found out were four dogs in a quite a small basket um it was quite obviously a welfare case though it's coming to hand them over and the dogs were just absolutely covered they're so scared and covered in feces and um so that's fine we can help bring them in and literally i i think i grabbed you and i said like come on we need help and like just get your pp on because there's not a day goes past we don't have to be wearing ppe yeah i think we should get your pp on and then and so and it was literally like getting the dogs out one at a time they were covered in poo getting them washed off I was literally handing them to Pete he was tailoring them passed them to Charlotte a lovely vet nurse so she could give him a health check because they were they were so underweight that so so worried um and we're sort of doing this and you're just in the moment and you're just focused on getting what you need to get done and I sort of looked down and Pete was literally like in his socks ankle deep in pooey water just living his best life and if that kind of tells you just how engrossed he gets in it's like it's real like what you see on the on the screen is real and like people often say to us you know what's Pete like is he a nice guy in real life and and you know you know he's your best mate so he just absolutely is and the work he does with us to showcase the dogs and helps us get you know get more dogs into at homes and that's what he does well at least i mean i i everything you said about pete there i mean we all know we all obviously love him so much and we can see how happy he's doing doing for dog's sake as well i mean it's his i think it's his life calling really to be fair what has the response been like since season one and how has it helped dogs trust it's been huge hasn't it so uh 30 increase i think it was yeah in adoption applications so many more donations just so much more um people being aware of who we are as a charity so we've got our wonderful rehoming center in in basildon but there's 20 20 other centers around the country so they've also had an uptake so although a lot of it's like filmed with us you know it has had that knock-on effect so it just he's been huge and that is you know we we carry on doing what we've always done and we've done it at basden for the last 11 years and we will carry on as long as we're able to but pete coming in and his presence and the fact that he can just connect with dogs and he We can connect with people of all ages, you know, that passion that comes across and it just brings that bit of magic.

1:09:01And we just absolutely love having him around like we do. Well, here we go. Here's to many, many more seasons to come. We're incredibly proud of you, mate. And I know you're not doing this for any sort of accolade. You're doing it for the love of dogs. But we are incredibly proud of you, mate. And I hope you enjoy this. And it was really nice just to get the entire team into here. This is our glam squad. Yeah, it's your glam squad. Well, join the team. I mean, God. So Charlotte's our vet nurse. She looks after the dog's physical health. Becky's one of our training teams looking after the mental health.

1:09:32And together they are the glam squad. They're the glam squad. They're the team. Basically, whenever one of the dogs comes in and goes see vet nurse Charlotte, and we all like to sing together, don't we? We like a little sing song. We like a little sing song, don't we? Should we do a puppy song? You want to do a little puppy? Should we do it to these ones? We'll do these ones. I love you. I love you. because you're tiny puppies. I love you. I love you because you're a baby puppy. And when you're on a green chair with Pete. I'm so sorry. Can I just go? Just something that's beautiful, beautiful.

1:10:08But I am going to throw a little something to the mix here. You are never allowed to mug me off for anything ever again. Right, so what happens? What happens whenever we're filming, I go into puppy fever. Whenever we ram puppies, I lose the fucking plot. I cannot really do anything. I start doing weird voices. I sing. I talk to them. I do a puppy voice. I can't. We've heard from Lisa. We've heard from the team, the amazing team. And what about you? Like, you know, we know how, I know how much you love this show. I know how much you love these dogs. And I know how much you love this team. What does it mean for you to hear the numbers about the 30 % increase?

1:10:48and for all of the people who, you know, watch the show as well. What does that mean to you? Because obviously I know how much you mean. I mean, like I've said it before. I wouldn't, I've tried to do a show like this for so long. No one wanted it. No one thought I could do it and no one would give it a chance. And, you know, we were really blessed that BBC Studios and UNW actually did that. And doing it with you at Basildon and all of you guys is literally the best thing in the world. Like, I love every minute I'm there. Like, we've obviously won an award and we've been nominated for kind of awards and that's all great, but I wouldn't want to do this if it wasn't actually helping and making a difference.

1:11:31And the team that work on it, for dog's sake, with Mel, Nicole and Dave, everyone, we're all, you know, those guys are embedded with you guys day in, day out. And one of the things that is most important to us is that we show what you guys do and we show everything that you do. Nothing is fake, nothing is inauthentic. It is all literally the reality of what you do. And every accolade and every person that watches it and every donation that comes in and the increases are absolutely fuck all to do with me. They're all down to you because it's just a way for people to see what you guys do in a day in, day out.

1:12:06And I honestly, every day I spend there is incredible because of the dogs and because of you, but you are genuinely fucking heroes. and I'm so, so pleased that it makes a difference to the dog's lives. That's the most important part of it. And if we weren't doing that, then what's the fucking point? It's just such an emotional rollercoaster, isn't it? Oh, I've laughed and cried with every single one of you. Literally. Like every single one of you I've laughed and cried with. And I'm so fucking so, so blessed and so grateful to be able to do it. And I cannot believe you come here today and nearly made me cry again.

1:12:37This is not the place I cry. I cry in Basildon. Yeah, we love it. we love a couple of Pete Wicks tears guys thank you so much we really appreciate you coming all the way down you brought me puppies and bringing these beautiful puppies I mean I'm a cat guy but I'm going to like I've always well I've had King Charles Spaniels like my entire life so well also I think you know we need to say before we go for dog's sake season 2 is coming at the back end of this year is there a date yet? there's not a date yet but it's going to be autumn autumn this year it'll be out and then there's going to be a Christmas special and then series 3 so but yeah around autumn time is when series two will be out.

1:13:13It will be back bigger than ever, better than ever, with loads more dogs and lots more of me crying. Well, and don't we love to see a Pete Wicks tear because my God, we've seen enough of me. So well done. We're so proud of you, all of you. And thank you so much for coming down. I knew you'd like that one. I, nearly made me cry, you fuckers. Yeah, that's how we do it, baby. Come on. I want to keep up. This has been a Staying Relevant production. Colon cancer is on the rise. It's the second deadliest cancer and the number one cancer killer of people under 50 in the U.S. Yet it remains one of the most preventable cancers.

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