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Staying Relevant

31 Aug 2025 · 41m · 17 chapters

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143: Sam is feeling BROODY...

In short

The Staying Relevant episode is a chat between Sam Thompson and Peter (James, Jonathan, Joseph, Franklin, Wicks) about upcoming holidays and major career events. Sam discusses his first holiday alone with his nearly-4-year-old nephew Leo to Marbella, including flying with the family, babysitter/kid activities, and feeling “broody” from pool moments. Peter contrasts this with his own work-heavy Ibiza trip (Kiss radio/podcast), nightclub plans, and a “vibe check” prank/call. They also hype September’s NTAs and their own O2 show, including pyro, rehearsals, dress code (P or S), and behind-the-scenes filming.

Guests

No external guests; only hosts Sam Thompson and Peter Wicks.

Key claims

Liquid IV hydrates faster than water; “vibe check” calls are a real TikTok trend; Sam wants pyro and a specific entrance for their O2 show.

Notable examples

turbulence fears on flights; playing cards on the plane; taking Leo to Port Banus; calling Sheesh London to ask the vibe; NTAs chaos (wrong blazer, wrong introductions) and their “P and S” theme.

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Chapters

0:38

Holiday Plans and Family Dynamics

Discussion about Sam and Peter's upcoming holidays and family dynamics.

“Press 1 for comfort, 2 for style, 3 for donation.”
3:07

Holiday Plans and Family Dynamics

Discussion about Sam and Peter's upcoming holidays and family dynamics.

“so we have done this because Sam and I are both going on our holly bobs We're going on holiday Not together.”
4:12

Anticipating Family Fun and Uncle Duties

Sam talks about his role as an uncle and his excitement for family time.

“I'm a little bit gutted because Big Mike's going to be there.”
8:35

Reflections on Parenting and Broodiness

Sam shares his feelings about getting broody and the moments that trigger it.

“I really that's not even a laughing topic.”
12:09

Hypothetical Parenting Scenarios

A humorous exploration of what parenting might look like for Sam and Peter.

“I'm there to provide and do whatever else and you're there to just be sort of fun Sam.”
14:00

Navigating Parenthood Discussions

Exploring the challenges and considerations of parenting and family dynamics.

“What would you do if our kid doesn't do well at grades?”
18:01

Contrasting Family Vacations

Discussing the differences between wholesome family holidays and wild getaways.

“Pete's doing something a lot more fun than my sort of like lonely sort of third wheel family holiday.”
21:56

The Ibiza Itinerary and Vibe Check

Detailing plans for a work trip to Ibiza, including discussions on nightlife and vibes.

“Basically, if I'm completely honest with you, Liv is in charge of itinerary.”
28:00

Vibe Checks and Night Plans

Discussing the concept of 'vibe checks' and their relevance in social settings.

“This is exactly why people do the vibe check.”
29:04

Preparing for the NTAs

Planning for the upcoming National Television Awards and past experiences.

“I think that poor lady will never answer the phone again.”
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31:20

Wardrobe Malfunctions and Preparation

Funny stories about wardrobe issues and the pressure of the red carpet.

“At one point, you were in kind of an all black outfit with a white blazer.”
33:40

The Chaos of Interviews

Experiences and challenges during celebrity interviews on the red carpet.

“It's like fucking three hours, isn't it?”
36:54

Upcoming Shows and Special Events

Excitement for the upcoming shows at the O2 and the preparations involved.

“So you could be up there for this morning.”
38:48

Behind the Scenes of Production

Insight into the production and planning that goes into the big events.

“Yeah, fucking yeah, Maverick and Duck or whatever his name was.”
41:30

Dress Code and Audience Engagement

Discussion on the dress code for the event and audience participation.

“Sam's first inclusion in the first meeting of the O2 was, okay, so is there pyro?”
42:00

Dress Code and Cosplay Ideas

The hosts discuss a playful dress code for an upcoming event and brainstorm cosplay ideas based on it.

“there are special guests, there's performances, there is all sorts of stuff going on, and it is going to be a bit, and now you all know that you also have a dress code.”
44:02

Dress Code and Cosplay Ideas

The hosts discuss a playful dress code for an upcoming event and brainstorm cosplay ideas based on it.

“Summer is here and with it, the hot and sticky weather.”
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1:50I don't know it just felt right not to me I liked it Frank I could see you as a Frank Frank yeah they will be swearing if you don't like it go f*** yourself there's no alcohol drunk during this and I'm not going to have another coffee otherwise I will be bouncing off the f***ing ceiling this is the main episode which means it's Monday you'll be able to watch this on YouTube on a Wednesday and then there'll be the bonus episode which comes out Thursday audibly which you visually can watch on Josh's YouTube channel on a Sunday, which means that you can catch us on a...

2:25A point of recording, this is a double record. So if you think that was slightly off that, it's because everyone has got a mouthful. Because everyone's had a little sort of half-time snack. I had a fruit pastel. Sam had a fruit pastel. Make sure you rate, review, do all of that crap. follow us on socials at Staying Relevant Podcast Josh's YouTube channel which is the subscribers are just going up which is wonderful news for Josh because it means he gets to keep his job for a little bit longer We love you Josh, peace out homeboy Yeah, well I don't need to say it anymore because Josh, you know Yeah, you got it man Right, let's crack straight on shall we Now this is a double record so we have done this because Sam and I are both going on our holly bobs We're going on holiday Not together.

3:15Yeah, that sucks. Yes, I'm gutted. I actually am gutted because up until quite recently, I genuinely thought I was coming to Ibiza with Pete. Yeah, but what's happened is Sam has seen all your comments. We spoke about it last week and he's wholesome here. So he's going away with the family to Marbella. So his first holiday with Leo? No, I've had a holiday with him before. First holiday alone though. Yeah, like no one coming with me. so it is literally just me and I mean you've made that sound like you're going on holiday on your own it's yeah Sam first holiday alone with all of his family well I know but you know when like they're the family and then you're just I'm a 33 year old man Pete so like I am just gonna be sort of like third wheeling and I've never been in that situation before but it's nice to get away and we're having four days off so yeah I'm gonna play a bit of golf maybe amazing are you solo golf round that's depressing does Ryan not play golf doesn't know Your dad doesn't play golf, Big Mike?

4:12No, he doesn't play golf anymore. I'm a little bit gutted because Big Mike's going to be there. He is going to be there. Big Mike is there. Me and Big Mike have got fond memories of being in Marbella together. We actually went out, just me and Big Mike and Maxine. I can't remember that. We went to Victor's. And had a lovely time. Panic I had when Pete took my dad out. I cannot fucking tell you. Had a great time. No, terrified. The best time. I'm going to just, you know, are you flying as a family? We are. We're flying as a family. And we're all in the same row. Oh, well, that is good because you have been known to miss flights.

4:41I have. That's a good point, yeah. So presumably it's going to be tough for Louise and Ryan. Is Dad flying with you as well? No, it's just me, Louise and Ryan and Leo. Excellent. So Louise and Ryan are taking both the kids away for the first time. That's how it feels. I mean, what's it like? Are you okay with an airplane? Do you cry a lot? No, but I am starting to get scared of turbulence. Right. Yeah. What do you imagine that's going to happen? I don't know. I'm scared now more than I've ever been of the plane crashing. Right. I don't know what it is, but I start holding hands now. I once grabbed a guy's hand that I'd never met before.

5:14You're all in the same row then, because it'd be weird if you just sort of asked some random person next to you to hold hands. I've actually done that. Yeah, that doesn't surprise me in the slightest. So how do you get through the worry of turbulence then? What do you do to entertain yourself on a flight? Well, I'm going to be honest with you. I have bought a pack of cards. I'm that guy. What are we snorting for? I'm a card guy. Yeah, so we're going to play some cards on the flight. Excellent. So you and Leo will be playing what? Texas Hold 'em? snap yeah I was going to play a little bit of oh I don't know what we're going to play actually what card games do you play well I was going to play the one that's called like heads up not heads up it's called shits up or something no you're going to play shits up what about a colouring book maybe we could bring a colouring book crossword puzzle book I like a crossword and Sudoku Whenever we share a flight, I end up sort of like just leaning and caressing my head on Pete's shoulder and we both sleep together.

6:12Sam and I fly very differently. I don't like to speak during a flight. Yeah, but I do nestle up to you. Yeah, I just want to put headphones in and let's get there, shall we? Pete likes a window seat and I sit in the middle. So what we like to do is just sort of like I'll caress into Pete and then Pete will caress into the window, which is really, really nice. And then what I like to do is explain to everybody that Pete's on the flight. I mean, the good thing for Louise and Ryan is that you being there, it's kind of like taking sort of a babysitter away. I do feel like I will be a bit of a manny.

6:39And I'm happy with that. How are you going to entertain Leo? I mean, if you're on uncle duties, what? Because you've spoken about on the podcast previously that your nephew, who you obviously adore, isn't a big fan of you. No, he is. He just sometimes tells me to go home. So are you going to be babysitting him or is Leo going to be babysitting you? I'm going to take Leo to Port Bannus. You're going to take him? Excellent. and he'll do great in fucking Tebow. It's a nightclub, by the way. I'm taking him in, mate. News cafe. Me and Leo on the tiles. Why don't you take him to Olivia Velarez? Yeah, where you nearly got us all shot last time we were there.

7:17That'll be a fun place to take him. I've got to remember that. Oh, my God. I once, for my birthday, Pete basically came and surprised me for my 30th birthday. So this is three years ago now, mate. and um and i tried to get behind the bar in this nightclub and i think someone threatened to shoot me to the point where p had to drag me away i just wanted to have fun i was like come on guys let's do some shots yeah yeah and that's always fun until someone gets shot um so yeah i mean look it's gonna be it's gonna be very different marbaird for you though this time around yeah because, you know, you are going with the family.

7:56I obviously don't have a lot of experience of being on holiday with, you know, young children. I don't know why that sounded weird, but it did. But I presume like these places, they do like kids clubs and stuff like that. Aquarobics. Will you be doing all that sort of stuff? A hundred percent. You know, Leo, I presume he's like a kid, loves the pool. Yeah, mate. And that sort of stuff. Are you going to be like Louise and Ryan will be able to chill out and it'd be, Uncle Sam, Uncle Sam, come and play in the pool with me. and you're going to be flying him around and like you know playing with a ball and fucking all that sort of stuff.

8:27Having so much fun. Having so much fun. What age because how old is Leo now? He's nearly four. Nearly four. What age are you most excited about? Harry Potter years. I really that's not even a laughing topic. The Harry Potter years are going to be absolutely stunning for him. I cannot wait. To be honest with you he's now at an age look the first two years is pretty tough because like they're sort of learning how to speak and walk and all that kind of stuff. And that must have been really hard for you as a next door neighbor and uncle. No, but is it like, is it like to bond? I genuinely mean this, like to bond with your nephew because also you're not their parents.

8:59So like they always crave their parents at that age. So you kind of are sort of the random guy who's just like knocking about. And then like, and then as they sort of become more compass mentis and they can sort of like understand who you are and like what you are to them. I genuinely feel, and weirdly, this is like quite an emotionally nice thing, is um like i feel like i've really found my place what is your what is your niche then what is your what is your place in leo's life currently i feel like i am the kind of the person who he'll have fun with and that's not to say he doesn't have fun with with ryan louise has loads of fun with him but i feel like your cool uncle sam he sees me as cool uncle sam and i think it was i really struggled actually i haven't really said this before i really struggled with trying to figure out what an uncle's role is in like their like in leo's life because i'm like where do i fit into it and we're like becoming best mates and i've and it's only been this year and i think just obviously because i suppose the year that has pushed me further towards them in the best possible way and like i really feel also it's coincided with leo getting a little bit older and creating a personality for himself exactly like do you know what i mean and i've been hanging around there all the time and i feel like i went on his first bike ride with him ryan mate that was so fucking cool yeah and now he's literally like at a stage where he's like tell sam this tell sam i did that sam come and see this like i want to show you this and i now feel like i actually have a part to play in his life from here on to the day i die which is fucking cool so how excited are you about having a holiday with him now that you are in this kind of new stage of your relationship i think it's going to be something that i've never done before and i I know that sounds really weird, but like playing in the pool with someone who you love and loves you back as like a child is going to be super awesome.

10:48What sort of things have you got planned to keep him entertained? Because kids on holiday, they're notoriously tough. I'm going to take and play golf with me. Okay. Excellent. So, so, so Louise and Ryan have got a babysitter. Leo has got a babysitter and you've got a caddy. Or a wingman. Or a wingman. Okay. Excellent. I mean, is there anything in particular that you're looking forward to about being in Marbella, being in the sun with Leo? What is it that you think is going to make it so special? I generally think it's those little pool moments. When you're in the pool, splashing about, and like this is what it's meant to be like.

11:21I've never had that before. And Pete, if I'm honest with you, and I'm dead serious, I'm getting broody. I'm getting broody. I mean, it's hard to believe that because, you know, your Hinge profile when it said kids, you said prefer not to say. Fucking hell. and you have said now, you're getting brooding. So you would like, okay. I don't know where it's come from. I do know where it's come from. It's obviously come from Leo. But those little moments, mate, they are so beautiful. And like you look at Ryan's face when like he rode his bike for the first time. Ryan cried. I welled up. And you're like, those things are like, ah, they're so great.

11:57And I just feel like we're getting there. I feel like I'm getting there. What do you think the biggest stumbling block for you right now with having a child is?

12:09uh i mean i can answer for you you don't even have a bird oh i was thinking about sperm count i don't know i need to sort of check my sperm maybe yeah i don't have anyone to have a kid with yeah yeah and that i think initially that's probably a big yeah i mean if you never find love again and and me and you adopt no two dads can do if we were to to be a two dad family this is gay what role do you think we would each play oh i know exactly what role we play have you ever watched modern family nope we're the two gay dudes and that i'd be the slightly more rotund dude um and you'd be the the more serious you're the guy who like goes out makes the bread and i'm the i'm the guy who oh excellent so so so actually what's happening here you're being put out to work yeah is wonderful.

12:58I'm there to provide and do whatever else and you're there to just be sort of fun Sam. Yeah, exactly. And I'll take him to the sports practices. Who do you think will be the strictest? You. Who do you think will be the funnest? Me. Who do you think the child will prefer? Annoyingly you. Because I feel like they always, I feel like the strict one, they always sort of like, well, they'll call you in an issue. I know that will happen because it happens on this fucking podcast. like Pete you'll be the one that our child which we are going to have this is a wild we've had some wild conversations and I feel like if they're ever getting bullied at school like I'll let Pete handle that one because you'll rock up and I'll be behind you don't worry being like what Pete said yeah yeah and if my child gets bullied at school I'll be behind bars yeah great but then do you know what it'll be for the greater good yeah wonderful then you'll have to single parent on your own and we'll turn up to the other kids where's daddy Pete?

13:53prison and we'll knock out the other kid's dad will we? No, you will, but I'll be behind you again. Okay, excellent, thanks. There's a theme here. Thanks so much. What would you do if our kid doesn't do well at grades? I'll just put him to work, manual labour. I'll tell you what, though. First girlfriend, that's going to be big. Me and you having arguments about whether we like him or not? We won't argue. Why? What, if we had a son? Yeah. Just, mate, sow your oats, boy. Okay, where was the girl? Where have we shared, Olive? We're not sharing her. She's mine. We might have to. No, we're not. No, we're not getting back onto that.

14:30We are not getting back onto that. Whose sperm would we use? Mine. No, we'd mix. No. Can you mix sperm? I don't think so. No, you can't. We'd have to use a surrogate. We'd have to use a surrogate. Unless we adopt. See, I love the way Peter's getting into this now. We would have to use a surrogate, Peter. If we were going to use a surrogate, anyone... Oh, be careful here. Anyone in mind? Bipper? We've got to have Bipper, surely. Fucking hell. Jesus. But then, no, so inappropriate. Oh, yeah, actually, no, no, no, no, no, no. It'd be weird. It'd be weird for Jack. It's like Alien, isn't it? Hear when you need me, guys.

15:19Weird for Jack. Uncle Jack. Uncle Jack. I mean, is there anything you're nervous about with your kind of first kind of... I'm going to call it a proper holiday with Leo just because, like you said, he's now speaking. He's like now kind of got that personality. What are you nervous about? Nervous I'm going to lose him. Sorry? No, I'm just nervous that like, imagine if you turn your head one minute and the next minute he's like walked off somewhere. Oh, that's the worst fear in any uncle's life. All right. Well, listen, I'm looking forward to the update. I'm going to send you photos. Oh, yeah, please do.

15:51Videos in the pool? Yeah, yeah. I don't need to see that. Just I've had a great time. I don't. I'm going to blame peeing in the pool on Leo. That's a positive as well. Yeah, no, no, no. Listen, why have a nephew if you can't blame the piss on him?

16:10Listen, family holidays. Been a long time since I've done one. Do you want to come? Well, you can't. Would you come? No. No. Are you sure? Yeah. You get along really well with all of them. Yes, no, absolutely I do. I mean, Leo doesn't know who the fuck I am. I can't wait. I don't think I've ever actually properly met Leo, in all honesty. Oh my God, you've never met Leo properly. When he was really, really young. No, but properly. Not properly. And like, got to film that. I don't know how Leo would react to me. Oh my God, we got to film that. Kids, kids, kids, kids have an unusual reaction to me.

16:46Just, I, you bending over. No, sorry. As in like you like, you know, like, you know, you bend over to say hello to a kid. How are you going to introduce me? You know, you bend over to say hello to a kid. You're like, oh, hi. Like you, like with your back bent. Hello, young man. Hello, mate. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Do you want a beer? No, I mean, look, kids, kids, kids go one way or the other, right? As far as I'm concerned. They either are fascinated and weirdly obsessed and love me or petrified. Well, actually, that's a very good point. Tony's kids were obsessed with you. Yeah, like, so, yeah. Kids generally, yeah, it's one or the other.

17:22I don't know how Leo will be with it. So who knows? But I'm sure that will be happening at some point. God, mate, I'm going to take you to the cinema with us and we'll all go and watch Harry Potter for the first time. Oh, no, we won't. Mate, that'd be so fun. Would it? You'd be like, you'd be sweet Uncle Pete. Well, great, it'll be you and Leo watching it and then Leo going, why is that man asleep? Why is he drooling? And then you'll be like, oh, he's drunk. No, I would never do that. You're going to be around for his first beer, guaranteed. Oh, absolutely, yeah. Yeah, fucking absolutely. And his 18th birthday.

17:57Mate, that's going to be really fun. But look, I can't wait for that holiday. It's going to be fucking phenomenal. Pete's doing something a lot more fun than my sort of like lonely sort of third wheel family holiday. Do you know what? No, no, no, no, no, no. It's not going to be more fun. It's going to be different. We're on very different. So basically, Sam and I have coincided as sort of holidays at the same time. Very different holidays. Sam is, again, as you all know, very wholesome and doing the family thing and being the uncle and all the rest of it. I'm going to get off my tits and Ibiza.

18:29God damn it. That sounds amazing. Which just about sums up the difference between you and I. I am working, I'd just like to point in, for a few days of it, but then I have got a couple of days at the end where I will be chilling the fuck out. Swear to God if you send me videos of you, like, really enjoying yourself, I will be so annoyed. Yeah, I mean, so Liv and I are going to... going um to to to work for kiss we're doing the radio show from out there and we're doing a podcast out there uh we'll be traveling together on friday that's always dangerous friday morning um and live and i are kind of on on work trips what generally happens is we get to the airport and it's an early flight similar to last time we went away for work by the time we step onto the flight we're drunk then the flight is uh drunk yeah i have two different itineraries oh this is fun okay tell Tell us what's on your itinerary.

19:19So the itinerary is a work itinerary set up by Kiss. Then Liv has created an itinerary, which I've had no say in, which includes when we land shopping and wine. That's right up your street. Yeah, I mean, the shopping bit I could do without. I'll be honest with you, especially if Liv shopping is, fuck me, she loves to shop. So that's going to be interesting. A lot of it's sitting down for you. and as kind of ever Liv is one of the most independent people I know however she kind of falls into not having to think about things when I'm there again so I will be airport dad I love an airport dad though well that is me as airport dad you know making sure that we know where we're going doing all that sort of stuff so that'd be interesting now one of the biggest things from last time I went away was my fashion choices because you motherfuckers don't like them will the sandals be out yes and I'll tell you what I've done I've bought them in a new colour yeah what colour have you got for I've gone for a brown suede kind of toes out no it's a closed toe but it is a sandal ah jelly shoes they're not it's suede he's got the jelly shoes back out baby he's ready to slay so I have a number of things because I don't really because Ibiza like the problem is obviously we're working and we're going to be in the ocean and all that sort of stuff It's not really my aesthetic, is it?

20:46That sort of stuff. I'm not going to be there in Nike Tech and a pair of TNs. What if you see the Ibiza final boss? We may see him. Oh, my God. You're going to go see the Ibiza final boss? I'm not going to Ibiza to see him. And I'm not going to be there. I'm gutted. I'm really upset. You really are. I think that's the most genuinely upset you've ever sounded. It's the content. But it will be. It's going to be a slightly odd occasion. Unfortunately, I've spoken to Wayne. Wayne isn't going to be there. Which I'm disappointed about. Your right hand man. Which is disappointing. But we will be at Ocean on Saturday.

21:25Last time I was at Ocean was with Sam. Actually, no, it wasn't. It was Dean Gaffney just after he went. But, you know, this time last year, we were at Ocean together. It won't be the same without you. I poured vodka in one of our camera guy's eyes. Yeah. Sam got overly excited and waterboarded a camera guy with vodka. But it's not going to be the same without you, mate. I'm going to be disappointed. Are you going to miss me? Yeah. Really? Yeah. Do you want me to fly out? I'd better go. No, no, no, no, no. You can't let Leo down, mate. Fuck you. Are you going to go to any nightclubs? Any hotspots?

21:59Yes, we've got to. We're Glitterbox Sunday night. Bloody hell. Not my choice. Yeah, we've got. Basically, if I'm completely honest with you, Liv is in charge of itinerary. Do you know what the vibe's like at any of these places? Sorry? Do you know what the vibe's like at any of these places? Like, have you been to Glitterbox before? Yes. So there's a thing going around at the moment, and I actually really like this. It's called the vibe check. Are you going to, like, call ahead to any of these bars or clubs and sort of, like, ask for a vibe check beforehand? What? You're going to, like, call any of the bars or clubs beforehand and be like, hey, man, what's the vibe there?

22:32Like, can you give me a vibe check just before we turn up and think about it? So am I going to call Glitterbox and go, hi guys, just want to check what the vibe is? That's exactly what they do, yeah. No one does that. Yeah, they do. On my life. Mate, on God. On God? On God. On God. On God, that's what they do. On God, people are vibe-checking bars before they get there. Yeah. So what do we expect Glitterbox is going to say to me? They're going to be like, well, they're either going to be like, mate, the vibe's popping, or they're going to be like, it's a little bit dead. Okay, so what are the places I want to go?

23:02Do I want to go for a dead vibe or a pop-in vibe? You probably want to go for a pop-in vibe. I feel like rock on. Rock on. Yeah. I mean, I've, you know, we've got like nice dinners and stuff, but do I need to call like Zoom? No, it's more so just bars or clubs. Like, how would you do it? Go on. So I'm the bartender, right? Or I'm the manager of the bar. So am I asking on arrival or calling ahead? No, you're calling ahead to see whether you want to go or not. So I'm calling Ocean. Okay, so I'm just wiping down stuff. Hi, is this Ocean? Yeah, this is Ocean. How are you, big guy? I'm good, thank you.

23:38My name's Pete, and I'm just checking what the vibe is. What the vibe is? In terms of today? Yeah, because I'm thinking of coming down, but I need to know what the vibe is first. What, do you mean like the vibe in terms of sort of outfit, or like what kind of... I don't know. I've been told to ask you what the vibe is. You're not holding your phone up against your ear. there you go go let's start again hello who's this hi i'm pete and i'm just calling to find out what the vibe is what do you mean i'm thinking of coming today and i'd like to know if it is my sort of vibe hey it's always the vibe man it's popping off and popping off is a good vibe is it popping off's a great vibe are you going to be joining the vibe i'm going to pop path.

24:26Great, man. Are you going to come on down? Yes, because you've answered my vibe questions. I'm looking forward to feeling the vibe. Lucky, do you know what? I think we put this into practice. Why don't we call a bar now? Let's call an actual venue now and let's assess the vibe. Fuck it. Let's just assess the vibe. Let's call a bar. I should not think this is going to happen. We should call Sheesh. No, no, no, because I know Sheesh. I need to know for tomorrow. Yeah, okay, we'll do sheesh. Don't say who you are, though. I'm not asking. No, you are. We're doing a practice run for your Ibiza session.

25:02Sheesh London. This is fucking mental. Here we go, sheesh restaurant. Here we go, contact. Great, cool.

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27:03Next to the mic, please, Pete, remember. Hi, yeah, I wonder if you can help me. I'm thinking of coming for dinner tomorrow night, and I just want to know what the vibe is. Which restaurant, London or Tidwell? London. London. There's Afro House DJs on from about eight o 'clock. Amazing. It's busy. It's going to be busy. So would you say the vibe is popping off? Yes, I would say it's popping off. Thank you so much. I look forward to seeing you. Cheers, darling. Bye-bye. I think we've already got a table, yeah. You've already booked? Yeah, yeah, yeah. I've just not been before, so I just wanted to check the vibe before, just to make sure it matches my vibe.

27:43Yes, lovely. All right, we'll see you then. Thanks, darling. Bye. Thanks, bye. And that's the vibe check. That is exactly, that is exactly why people do it. Because now you know it's busy, it's going to be vibey, it's popping off, and you've got a table. You're fucking in, mate. We should probably go. It's busy tonight as well. See, now I want to go. This is exactly why people do the vibe check. I never want to do that again. Check if it matches my vibe.

28:16oh we've assessed the vibe and the vibes are strong man vibes are strong on this one great okay well that's that's what we're gonna do we're gonna go tonight it's amazing isn't it because finding out what the vibe is somewhere else has killed my vibe no people are genuinely doing that by the way no one is actually it's a genuine thing to ask what the vibe is all over tiktok oh well if it's all over tiktok then of course so i'm so i need to get tiktok at this point yeah you really do no don't be so fucking stupid now you know the vibe's good just just no no no i would not be calling anyone in ibiza to check what the fucking vibe is i am the vibe maybe we should say that we should call back and we should have pete go well i am the vibe.

29:04I think that poor lady will never answer the phone again. That was so unbelievably awkward for everyone concerned. And also just realised why it was sheesh. It's because the girls have got their fucking night out tomorrow. And now they know. So now you know what the vibe is, guys. Afro beats from 8pm. But it will be busy. But it will be busy. So happy days. Slightly gutted. I'm missing it now. If I'm honest with you, because that is my vibe. I'll tell you what, you're not going to be missing though, mate which is happening very fucking soon ntas baby the vibe on that will be strong so the part of the reason sam and i are both having a couple of days away is that we are about to enter a very busy period um because this year has been a breeze so far um a very busy period for for the both of us um the ntas will be up first uh september 10th we are back back on the red carpet i mean How are you feeling about it?

30:04I'm so, so stoked. I feel like we've worked our way in now. I feel like we feel comfortable there. And I promise you, no chasing people down the red carpet this time. No singing to Richard Armitage. I thought, in all honesty, that you would be more prepared for it this year. Every year before the red carpet, what we do is the kind of announcement that we're going to be doing the red carpet. We do it with Joel, you know, the three of us. And it's really quite simple. It's sort of bring a nice tux for the red carpet. and take a few pictures. Doesn't take very long. Great photographer, Nicky Johnston.

30:36Done it every year and it's happy days. You, it wasn't a great start for you. What do you mean? Oh, I forgot my blazer. Well, no, you didn't forget a blazer. You bought a suit despite the brief being tuxedo, red carpet ready. Sam looked like he'd potentially just sold a two up, two down at Rightmove. He looked like an estate agent. They weren't happy and asked him to change. Sam had nothing else with him. he just decided this is what I'm going to go with and I'm going to stick to this. I am happy to turn up looking like I work for Zoopla. But we had to make do. We did. Sam then had to borrow Joel Domit's outfits.

31:16I looked like I was wearing my dad's clothes. I mean, it was wild. At one point, you were in kind of an all black outfit with a white blazer. Oh, that was, oh no. You looked like a cross between John Travolta and the guy off the chase. Do you know what gets my goat about this though, right? Is that Pete pretended to me that it looked good and I knew it didn't. No, let's be honest. I put it on. I was almost going to swap you. Because you look good in it. I didn't look good in it. And Pete says, I go, no, honestly, mate, you look fucking fabulous. No, I mean, black and white is a strong choice. I mean, I did black and white for the NTA carpet last year.

31:50The difference being is that when you put it on, you potentially look like a zebra crossing that stood up. It was so bad. You look like a fucking negative. it was it was it was a it it wasn't great for your complexion it was such a bad jacket um but in the end you managed to to get a nice little number are you now prepared for what you're wearing for the red carpet i absolutely am i cannot wait for this one also we're going to be really professional this is going to be the most professional you've ever seen us yeah i mean bookmark that quote this will be the most professional you've ever seen us and we decided that the photo shoot when sam bought the wrong suit and i couldn't do any of the social media started well had no idea what the fuck was going on so much to the point where joel literally i thought you guys did this for a living yeah he had no idea what was going on we did the traditional photo shoot where um you know sam jumps on me and we sort of hold things uh i look like i'm in pain and sam looks like he's he's riding a pony um it was the whole thing the ntas i feel like they want chaos but i would like us this year to to to be serious oh no we will thank Pete is genuinely, by the way, having a hit flask sewn into his jacket.

33:00He's having a hit flask, like, container sewn in. The problem with the NTAs, and I love doing it, but the biggest problem is that we now work it. The NTAs for me was get dressed up, take a picture, get fucked. Now it's get dressed up, learn your line, don't interview people, blah, blah, blah, blah, sit down on the floor, presenting, I don't get to have fun till like midnight. You know what I mean? The best part of that is everyone comes up to Pete going, where are we going, Pete? Yeah, and I'm like, well, you know, you're three hours ahead of me in the drinking stage and I already don't want to be around you.

33:37So unless I catch up, I will be quite dull because at that point I've had enough. The red carpet really doesn't end. Oh, but it's very long. It's like fucking three hours, isn't it? And to be honest with you, I'm only really ever excited about speaking to Vicky McClure. Other than that, you can just trot on, you can just trot on. I mean, they have to explain to me every time who anyone is. He then has to control me. Then I have to control Sam running up and down. Sam, doesn't matter who we're interviewing or what we're doing or whoever's there, has always got, I mean, Sam, this is the point where Sam wishes he had a lazy eye because at this point he can keep one eye on when Ant and Dec come and then interview whoever's there because you only care about Ant and Dec on the red carpet and they always come last.

34:21So I have to get through three hours of just saying, they'll be here soon, Sam. They'll be here soon. Honestly. He's like, I know, but I know they're coming. I can feel it. I can feel it. Then you hear the big cheer from the crowd and say, they're here. Like, it's mental. The whole thing is utterly mental. And in the meantime, for the three hours before, he just bides his time until Ant and Dec get there, explaining to me who people are. Last year, he told me the complete opposite and I introduced myself to someone with a completely different name because he thought it'd be really funny. So this year, I've asked for an earpiece.

34:51so someone else can explain to me who it is. Then it gets really awkward because we know a lot of people. They want to be interviewed, but unfortunately all the people we know, no one cares about. So we have to interview the people that we do care about. Do you remember, I won't say her name, but last year there was one girl. Oh, you run off, yeah. Mate, no, no, no, not that. Oh, I know. So there's one girl who was stood next to the interviewing area. It gets to a point like when the red carpet starts and people start trailing in and it's good and you grab people. then at one point it gets really busy and everyone arrives at the same time three quarters the way through yeah so at that point we have like a team who try and grab people and they do have to form a bit of a queue to to to speak to us on the like official thing and you have to try and wrap through pretty quick but now so there was this one girl who um you came up and she was like she was like you're gonna interview me yeah and i hadn't i hadn't seen her for about seven years and she was like you're gonna interview me yeah and i was like i was like yeah yeah sure just because i was literally about to interview someone else with pete and she waited on the side and the people who were in charge like no we don't we don't want me to interview her and so i just stood there next to pete like hoping that she'd get the cue she then in front of everyone swore at me no no no she went i have exciting things coming up um and i i literally was she was behind sam and i looked around and went see so and then we just moved someone in front and she stormed in but um yeah I mean, it is fucking tough.

36:19And then you've got people like Liv Atwood last year, who I don't know if you remember, there was a whole queue of people like there. Liv was there promoting Bad Boyfriends as she brought some of the cast and just put herself in front of everyone. She went, so that is my mate. And then suddenly we were interviewing the cast of Bad Boyfriends. And she was like, listen, you've got to do what you want to do. You've got to do what you've got to do. It's a fucking fun day. I cannot wait for it. We do really enjoy it. And normally something really rogue happens every single time, whatever it may be, something chaotic happens.

36:50And last year was obviously very special for Sam. I know we've spoken about it before, but you got to go up on stage and collect an award as the winner of The Jungle. This year, up for anything? I'm going with this morning. Oh, wonderful. So you could be up there for this morning. So Sam and I will be down because I will be up there with Strictly. Which normally win. which means that I may end up on stage. I'm so going to film it. I've got to film it if you're on stage. I mean, I doubt I'll be saying anything because I imagine if Strictly wins, what they want is the winner to speak. Oh, is he going?

37:24Chris McCausen? Yeah. So I can't imagine they're going to want the kind of George of the Jungle to go up there and go, George loves awards. You should so do that. You should steal the mic. I've got something to say and then do that. Yeah, yeah. That will really impress everyone. But yeah, so we've got that. But that's not all that's happening in September, because then that's at the O2, the NTAs. And then a week later, nine days later, it's our show at the O2. Yes, come on. Wow, we are under a month. Let's just put this into perspective, is that the whole NTAs, the biggest night on TV, is at the O2.

38:03And then a week, nine days later, it's staying relevant at the O2. fucking hell man for one night only now as we a lot of people know almost all of the tickets are gone but we did open up some more in the heavens so I think there may be some available I don't know at the time of recording this but if there is grab them because it will be fucking great we may also be able to do something for those who might not be able to come which you will hear about at another point but we're working on something very special in the background for people that couldn't get down to London that will be amazing and never been done before because we like to break Mavericks.

38:48Yeah, fucking yeah, Maverick and Duck or whatever his name was. Maverick and Duck. What was it? Sparrow. Goose. Under a month, man. It's this is the thing that we've been building up all year for. This is like the end game and we have pulled out all the fucking stops. Yeah, I mean, the the full team, everyone is is is now uh under task everyone has got jobs to be doing for it everyone is is all hands on deck with a month to go um and there there is a lot of there is a lot to do there is a lot to do rehearsals have started they have oh my god they have but this is gonna be the best night ever anyone who's coming is going to enjoy it so so i hope is going to enjoy it so so much but yeah we um we are we also filming a little something as well alongside it do you know what's interesting is obviously this is the first time obviously we've done tours and stuff before and and whatnot but we are as a production company this is the first time we're all hands on deck and in all honesty someone asked me the other day like how's prep going for the o2 um you wouldn't believe the amount of shit that goes into this like like the amount of shit that we're all doing and sometimes when you see these kind of things you don't realise what kind of happens in the background.

40:06So we might be documenting that. And it would be interesting to see if anyone is interested in potentially seeing the real life of... Because it's all fun and games what we do. Until someone gets hurt. Until you do the O2. Then shit gets real. So there may be an opportunity to see a slightly different behind the scenes, which isn't just fun. Because although we have lots of fun... Terror. Tensions are rising. Terror. Um, very, a lot of fear. How are you feeling about it months ago? I'm mad. I'm so excited. I want it to get, I want it to be like now because I just want to be like, I don't know if we'll ever do it again.

40:46It's the kind of thing that me and Pete basically have always said. We don't want to make anything from it. Really? We just want it to be a bucket list. We've stuck to that. Yeah. Yeah. We literally aren't making like really a penny. What we are trying to do is make it the best experience ever just for one night because we want to take it off the bucket list and we want to say we've done it. and so it's one of those things that we'll probably, I imagine, never forget. Yeah, I mean, yeah, absolutely. It's going to be a fucking mad thing. I mean, it's been months and months of kind of preparation and stuff in the background that is leading up to this final month where shit gets real, I think, because we've spoken about it, obviously, but like now shit gets real.

41:24How are you feeling about the actual show? Mate, the show's fucking class. The show is great. We've got Pyro. I can say that. We've got Pyro. We have pyro. We can confirm there's pyro. We have pyro. We fought for that, by the way. No, no, no, no, no, we didn't. Sam fought for that. I fought for the pyro. Sam's first inclusion in the first meeting of the O2 was, okay, so is there pyro? I just really want pyro. That was the first question. And a specific entrance that he wants. We're doing both. Of course we are. Yeah, we are doing both. there are special guests, there's performances, there is all sorts of stuff going on, and it is going to be a bit, and now you all know that you also have a dress code.

42:10What's the dress code? P and S. P and S. P and S. So come as a P or come as an S? Whatever that means to you. Whatever that means to you. What does, I mean, have you thought about what you're wearing on stage yet? No, I haven't actually, no. I have no idea. I don't know whether we're going to go smart, whether we're not. I'm not sure. I think I'll just pick on the day. Pick OTN on the night. We've got people sending in, you know, what they're going to come as, you know, P and S. And someone really excitedly is going to come as your cat, Cedric. That doesn't make sense. Albus and Cedric aren't S or P.

42:40No, they're A and C, aren't they? Yeah, and how would that work? So why are you sick? No, you can still come as a cat. That's fine. Yes. Yeah, you can come as a cat called Steve. Or Paul. But that doesn't... Cosplay. We should do cosplay as well. It's too late now. We're S and P. Let's not confuse it. Skywalker. Because people will be confused and we'll have some people coming as fucking Harry Potter characters and then someone coming as a shit. Hey, apparently some people have ordered tattoo sleeves and wigs to come as you. I do. I did worry about this. I did worry that people would take this literally and just come as Pete and Sam.

43:22I'm not sure what they would do for it. I mean, you're inked up now, buddy. The old inked, the illustrated man over there. so they could do with a tattoo sleeve for you and a mullet come with a mullet so you could come as Pete and Sam or you could come as Stephen Paul the cats it's up to you thanks for listening to Staying Relevant make sure you rate reviewed all of that sort of stuff follow us on socials at Staying Relevant Podcast I did this one without any shoes on see you next week

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The boys are heading off on holiday, but with very different agendas. Sam is in full “Uncle Sam” mode, third wheeling his sister’s trip with baby Leo, while Pete insists he’s off to Ibiza for work. As part of his Ibiza prep, Pete tries his hand at a practice vibe check call as we put him on the spot to call up Sheesh…


Meanwhile, all that nephew time has Sam feeling surprisingly broody, while Pete’s focused on the O2. With the NTAs around the corner, the boys look back on last year’s red-carpet drama and spill a little behind-the-scenes gossip.


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