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1:41Welcome to Staying Relevant, the podcast hosted by two best friends, me, Sam Thompson and Peter James, Jonathan Joseph Wicks. This is Monday's episode, so you'll be able to catch this on Josh's YouTube, Josh and Kira's YouTube channel, sorry, on a Wednesday from 5pm. Then we'll be doing a bonus episode on, which comes out Thursday, which you'll be able to watch on Sunday on Josh and Kira's YouTube channel, which means you can catch us on a... Monday, Wednesday, Thursday, Sunday. Wonderful. Great review. Do all of that sort of fucking shite. You know the sport by now. We're launching Christmas on Staying Relevant.

2:16Yay. Yay! We love Christmas. We don't. On this podcast. We adore it. We don't. In classic Staying Relevant style, it's now a yearly thing. We are doing again Secret Santa. Now, I don't know if you remember from last year, but it caused a bit of a stir. No, it didn't. It didn't cause a stir. What happened was we all did Secret Santa and you didn't know what it was. Despite being told numerous times. So explain, just in case there's anyone out there who is of similar mental capacity to you, who cannot understand what Secret Santa is. Secret Santa? Fuck. Secret Santa is when you basically, you pull out a name and I would be like, oh my God, I got Kira.

3:04No, you wouldn't. No, you've lost it literally in the first fucking sentence. And then I'd go buy a Kira present. But you wouldn't tell Kira. So you wouldn't pull it out and go, oh my God, Kira, I've got you. because then it's not a secret. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Do you see? Yeah, yeah. So in my head, I'd be like, fuck, I've got Kira. In your head, yes. Yeah, use your internal voice. And then once you've given the gift, do you, fuck me. No. Do you tell them that was from me? No, you don't know because secret centre. Yeah, but surely at the end, you've got to be like, eh, it was me. Eh, no, you don't.

3:37So the gift part, yeah, that's just buying everyone gets a gift. Yeah. Yeah, because it's Christmas. Yeah. The bit you need to concentrate on, I think, from start to finish, and don't overthink it, is secret. Kira, I'm going to get you a really shit one. No, but you haven't got – you don't know who you – it's just supposed to be a bit of – Christmas Secret Santa, all right? It's just – I've never had this issue in any place I've worked. Have you ever played Secret Santa? Yes, Sam. What have you bought? Because I've had jobs before. What have you bought? For people? Well, it depends. It depends, like, who I'm picking for.

4:09I'm going to get Pippa a mug. You don't have Pippa! I might do. You might do. I might do. Why are you going to get, why a mug? I'm going to get a mug, but she's not going to know it's from me. Well, she's now, she gets a mug. Oh, yeah, that's a good point, yeah, yeah. I'm going to get a really shit present for Pippa, and then be like, what's me? What, even if you don't pick my name out? Well, unless it's Kira. Right, let me, okay, let's just get back into this. So the difference in Secret Centre this year, which I've specifically told the team. Yeah. All right? specifically told the team is that we are buying secret Santa presents.

4:44Yeah, mate, I'm fucking hungry. Last year, listen, let's be honest, Pippa bought them for everyone. Or specifically bought ours for people. This year, Sam, you have to go and get a secret present. What's the limit? Okay, so now we're going to set the budget. No, okay, mouths are open. No, £20 is your limit. 20 quid? All right. Oh, hell. £20 is the limit, but you and I'm telling you now if we get to fucking swapping presents on Secret Centre Day and you haven't fucking bought your person something we'll know who exactly if there is if Annalise is sat there without a£20 fucking voucher for HMV or whatever the fuck Can't get vouchers boring Well I don't know HMV Right Is everyone's name in here?

5:28Oh Charlotte Tilvers Hannah have you checked this because Annalise has got Annalise has got a penchant for fucking forgetting things Annalise if I get you if I get you I'll get you a Charlotte Tilvers Yeah. No, no, no, no, no, no. This is not how it... No. No. I don't want to play anymore. No. I don't want to play this. How is this so difficult? It's just... It's secret centre. Right, so... Oh, shake it. Shake it.

5:57Oh, my God, who's he going to get? I'm just making sure I've got one here. Right, OK. Open it up. Why? I can't tell you. OK. Right, and then the team will pick theirs after. Oh, my God.

6:14It's quite big. Oh, fuck. Oh, my God, I got... No. I got who I wanted. Excellent, Pippa. I wonder what you're going to get. It's not. No, I don't want you to. It might not be Pippa. So you've got Kira. It doesn't matter. He picked it randomly. Sam's got Kira. This is... Right. There is no swapping. There is no swapping. All right. The team can do it after. All right? So it should have the other names left there. You guys will do that after. Oh, my God. I don't know what I'm going to get you. Somebody.

6:49Hey, Kira.

6:53I might not have Kira. I might have Pippa. Yeah, but this is the problem. When you say something that's secret, now what you're going to do is you're going to go round. Who's got who? Who have you got? It's a secret. I know, I know. I cannot do this. This is like fucking deja vu. I know, I know. This is deja vu. This is exactly... You can't answer people. Can I guess who you've got? No, you can't. Okay. No, you can't. Just go and buy a fucking present. Forever's name is on the fucking paper. I think you got Josh. Oh, for fuck's sake. I think you got Josh. Have you got Josh? No, I don't have Josh.

7:23Raise your eyebrows if you got Josh. No, I'm not going to say anything. You just raise your eyebrows. Just raise your eyebrows. Listen, I don't want to play. He's got Josh. It just takes all the fun out of it. I'm so good at knowing who's got who. I don't think you are, man. Pippa, you've got Hannah. She hasn't picked it. So how are we? No, because... Okay, right. So I've got Kira. Josh is... Pete's got Josh. No, Pete doesn't have Josh. I don't care if you've got... I don't care anymore. I don't... Move on. Elf on a shelf. Talk to me about it. It appears that the elves have come to town. It appears that the elf on the shelf has come into the staying relevant office and he's taken Elsa off the tree and he's doing a cowgirl.

8:08is how I'm is what I'm seeing there okay naughty little elf who did that well I imagine one of you's before I got here it was me no so the elf on the shelf why are we giving a fuck about elf on the shelf because he does it every year so every day the elf moves somewhere differently well yeah wherever you put it no no no he does it on his own it's a toy where's he gonna move next I don't know where do you wanna put it well I don't know I mean, he's got naughty elf, though. He's nicked out, sir. What do you have to say to him? Well, I don't have anything because it's a toy. No, but if he wasn't a toy and he just was real.

8:46But it is a toy. Well, it's like Toy Story. Everyone thought Toy Story was a toy, but he's actually turned out to be real. Well, no, because that's a fucking cartoon, mate. Tom Hanks was Woody. You don't know that. I do, I watch the credits. You don't know that. I told you this. I used to literally believe they were real as well. Okay, so what we're saying is this elf, you think this is magically going to fucking move around and shag the frozen lady in a different position? Well, because it's staying relevant, who's he going to shag next? Oh, excellent. That's the question. So I might come in tomorrow and find the elf bending Josh over his edit table.

9:21Hey, mate, do you know what? Maybe, maybe. He's a little man, but if he's packing heat, you never know. Is he? How big is his dick? Maybe one of the jelly cats. Oh, okay. So what's going to happen is the multitude of toys that we have in this creche, all right, the elf is going to shag them all. Yeah. Oh, excellent. Well, I can't wait to watch him fuck the kettlebell. Or the goat. He ain't fucking touching... What do you do if you bend over your goat? I will set it alight. Okay, cool. We should do that. No, no, no, no, no, no, no. We're not having fucking... This is Elf on the Shelf. It's supposed to be a fucking Christmas thing.

9:57Have you ever played Elf on the Shelf? You don't play it, Sam. It's not a game. It is a game. It's not a game. It's for literal fucking kids to go, oh there's a naughty oh he's up on the show oh how's he got there because your fucking dad's put him there I still get a stocking what? I bet you get one as well don't you? who does your stocking? my sister oh it's got Sam written on it oh hasn't got Gary on it it's got Sam on it I still get a stocking every single year what's in your stocking? oh mate dude she'll put loads of stuff in this oh yeah dude tell me

10:36She put JJ's in there last year. Pyjamas? Yeah, pyjamas. Because she knew I was opening on my own. So she was just like, she gave me a good hold. Nothing makes you feel less alone than getting pyjamas at the age of 33. I'm also getting the house decorated next week. Proper grotto. What are we doing now? Christmas grotto. Oh, sorry. I thought we were just doing another room. No, Santa's grotto, mate. What do you mean? Yeah, I'm getting like a tree with it all dolled up. Yeah, I'm getting outfits for the cats. You're doing Santa's Grotto? Yeah. Oh, that'd be nice for the kids, Leo and... Well, actually, no, it's not just my gaff that we're making all sanctuary.

11:18We at Staying Relevant might have a little nativity on the way. Wah! Sorry, that was the baby Jesus. Right. Right. So I've heard this, but I have been kept out of the loop on a lot of this. This should be a very professional, because it's a religious time, remember? Well, of course, mate. I'm with you. So I don't want to do this half-assed. I'm a religious man. Hands are going up. Why? Of course. Freeze. What are you doing? Hey, just religion. Just. You do want to be in it. It's going to be really cool. I just want to be in it. You'd feel so left out. It's like being at school. I wouldn't feel left out.

12:01You would feel left out. It just gives me a day back out of my diary. No, you feel negative. You still have to come. I don't. You would. It's like when you were at school and like people who were the drama kids used to get to go and be in the plays. And then if you weren't in the plays. Have you ever been in an attribute when you were at school? Mate, I was the tree. Yeah. No, that was a big role. That's not a small role. The tree was the big role? Yeah. Mate, no. Why was that car? Sorry, I didn't realise. Leaf it out. Why was that a big role? The tree was because you're right there in front and centre.

12:31And I played the trumpet. A trumpet playing tree? Yeah. Yeah. My mum got it on camcorder. This isn't even a lie. On camcorder? Camcorder. She held one of them camcorders. So Karen was there with the camcorder. Yeah. And she basically watching me and I got up onto, I was dressed as a tree and she came up and I walked up. What was the, how do you dress as a tree? Talk to me. Well, it's just one of them sort of like foam things that go around you like that. Yeah. And then I walked up to the pulpit and I played the trumpet. The ball pit? The pulpit. The pool pit? The pulpit, yeah. Pool pit? It's called the pulpit.

13:03What's the pool? Sorry, sorry. I'm just trying to visualise this. Karen with a camcorder. Yeah. And then you're dressed as a tree in a ball pit. No, a pulpit. What's a pulpit? Pulpit's where they speak from. So it's an elevated platform in the church. And I basically got up there. Is it called a pulpit? It's called the pulpit. It is. I think it's a pulpit. It's a pulpit. Okay, a pulpit. It's not a pulpit. It's a pulpit. It's not a pulpit. It's a pulpit. I mean... By the pulpit. Okay, yeah, I mean, I'm going to go with... Either all. Piperan. Either all. Yeah, okay, and then you played the trumpet.

13:38Piperan. No, no. Yeah, to be fair, if someone's going to know what a church pulpit is, it's going to be Piperan. And what did you play on the old... Oh, well, I got the notes wrong. I slapped my trumpet in anger. Yeah, it's all on camera. Dressed as a tree. I'll find it for you. Yes. See if Karen can pull that up on VHS or off the camcorder. And I slap, I go, like that. Oh, you slap it. Why won't you work? Why does that remind me of the in-betweeners? Why? It's cock, isn't it? Weird reference, sorry. So I've been in the nativity before. Have you been in the nativity? Oh, mate. I mean, that was got to be, what, fucking 35 years ago.

14:20I don't know. Yeah, but you will. You always remember you first. I don't think I turned up. I don't think I did. I don't think I was allowed. Really? Oh, you missed out. I don't think so. I don't remember doing anything. Wow. And then I was in quite a few plays at school. Bugsy Malone. What? What was wrong with that? Who were you in Bugsy Malone? I can't actually remember. Tree? I wasn't Bugsy. I think I was one of the gangsters. Yeah, I was one of the gangsters. And I had a Tommy gun made out of wood. But it was actually secretly a trumpet. So then I went up to the pulpit and played the trumpet.

14:54Mate, I've been in a few movies. Movies? Movies, yeah. I've been in a few plays, man. Suddenly Inside Act 2 doesn't seem so fucking well. I didn't realise you had a fucking theatrical background. I'm a thespian. Damn right you are. You're like Pete Postlethwaite. No. Anyone? God, shit. He's dead now. Showing his age. He was an incredible thespian specialising in Shakespearean theatre. Wonderful guy. So basically what we're saying is that auditions are happening later this afternoon. So if you'd like to turn up at your allotted time, Peter, that'd be great. Well, I'm just here. So whenever the allotted time is, we will see you because I am on the panel.

15:37Let's move on from this. I'm bored. Well, I think we start with Pete staying relevant moments of the week because we've had a massive bit of telly from our Peter. Some daytime TV, a little feature on Lorraine, big show, managed to go viral on TikTok again. Peter this time with your best pal Piers Morgan oh yes do you care to explain what happened because I I got sent this by about a million people I've not seen TikTok obviously but yeah so Piers Morgan was on Lorraine before me I then had to do a section a section oh fuck man a section but as Lorraine was telling him that I was going to be in he said oh I go to the gym with that guy then walked off said hello to me Pete, how are you?

16:23Obviously, we've interviewed Piers Morgan a few times, met him a couple of times. He then went back on after me and said, I'm sorry, I don't know who that is. I thought it was Joe Wicks. And then went after me and went, who is he?

16:37He went so hard. You know when someone doesn't need to go that hard? He made a point. I'm actually going to, like, I actually find Piers Morgan quite funny, but, like, I... He referred to me as his gym bunny. He also, like, he made a point out of stopping Lorraine and being like, I don't know who this guy is. Who is this guy? And you're like, why are you so heavily, like, hell-bent on the subject of knowing who Pete Wicks is? Well, especially after coming off and saying hi, Pete. Absolutely. And to then go back in and then go, who is it? We've interviewed. You and I have literally interviewed him.

17:12On the red carpet, yeah. But, yeah. But, you know, it's just classic peers. We have that sort of banter together. But, yeah, it was just so unnecessary. Yeah, I never understand. I should have. I would have gone back on set. Yeah, but I'd left by then. Oh, right. Annoyingly, so I didn't even see it until afterwards until someone had sent it to me. But I wish I'd fucking had a chance to go back on, like a right to reply. And I'd have gone, fucking who was that? I thought it was the pigeon lady from Home Alone. You know what I mean? Like, oh, I was confused there. Knowing exactly who it is as well.

17:47It's my gym money. Very expensive. By the way, it's a bit embarrassing, but I thought that was Joe Wicks earlier, not Pete Wicks. So when I said he's my gym bunny, I meant that... I thought you actually meant to... He and I used to swap Peloton numbers, because my Peloton was broken, and mine used to break all these records. They used to message me going, how the hell are you doing this numbers? I went, because I'm an animal in the gym. I thought that's who it was. Who's Pete Wicks? I'll tell you. Who is he? But do you know what? It's awkward when it comes to me, and I'm like, because I thought he was joking.

18:16Because I'm stood at the back, because you have to do the fucking smile and wave. and he goes, oh yeah, we go to the gym together and I'm going, ha ha ha ha. Ha ha ha. Ha ha ha ha. And then he goes back and goes, who is it? I thought we were just having a bit banter. You know what I mean?

18:34Well, that's not the only viral video though. You've also gone viral for wondering who Angry Ginge is as well. That's flown, taken off. Why is that? Why has me and Nice Orange gone viral? Because he's obviously really big at the moment and I just don't think people realise how little TV you watch. So like, everyone's like, they know who he is. It baffles me that people still don't realise when I repeatedly say I don't really watch TV. We have to get angry Ging in. We have to. We absolutely have to. He's actually doing really well. He just cried on TV. Yeah, very sweet. Very sweet. But you know H.

19:11Let's call him sort of... Sad Ging. Upset Amber. Upset Amber. He misses his family. It's very, very sweet. Misses his family. He's been there a week. Who's your winner then?

19:23Martin Kemp. Who's your winner? Ken P. Martin Kemp. Martin Kemp. Yeah. I know Martin. We've spent a month together in a similar environment. Martin's going to win. And what do you feel about Tommy Wilson? How's he doing? I love Tom. Basically, Pete doesn't watch the show. I do, however. How is Tom doing? we do really well he's doing really well I forgot Tom was in there actually I love Tom Tom he's just such a nice guy he's so you know he's like he's so intrigued he's so interested by people so he's like sitting down he's getting to know people he wants to know about their story and stuff he did me and Pete know about this very well he's got that butch voice that he puts on his real voice yeah no mate you should see TikTok it's a light with people thinking that he fakes his actual voice and that the Essex one's the real one well I've been tagged in a lot of things on Instagram where people think that It's you.

20:15It's me. No, I spoke about it this morning. I literally went, he's basically putting on a Pete Wicks. It sounds identical. So he's scarily good at it, but I can confirm that his real voice actually is the one he uses. Or is it? Or is it, to be fair? Imagine if it wasn't. Jekyll and Hyde. Oh my God, that'd be wild. But he's doing really well. He's doing really, really well. Good. Who's your favourite? Sorry, sorry to interrupt. I'll tell you what I have seen, though, on some clips, is there's an actress in there with a very good voice. Shona. Yes. Yeah. Shona. Or Lisa. Shona, yeah. Shona. She's, um, they're all coming across really well.

20:52She was in EastEnders. I remember that because I used to watch EastEnders when she was in it. I like her. She, um, she's got a potential romance of H. Interesting. Yeah, he was by the, he was by the creek saying that he, he goes, I've got a soft spot for Shona. Oh, soon to be a hard spot. Yeah, you never know. And, uh, my favourite is, my favourite actually is Angry Ginge. Oh, okay. Yeah. I like the crying. Is that because you're trying to get him on the pod? No, I like the crying, actually. You like the crying? It's not like, no. I like the crying. Yeah. I just feel like when you first turn up, and I'm being serious here, when you first turn up to the jungle, the first few days, mate, you know what it's like.

21:29Like, you're all just trying to make each other like you, basically, and you've got your best, put your best foot forward and all that kind of stuff. And then you ease into it and actually just like your true self. And I think the first half, for everybody involved, including Ginge, would have been sort of like, right, I'm just going to sort of play the part of Angry Ginge, right? And just have a laugh. But then actually - What is his part then? What is he - He's like a streamer. He gets like angry at FIFA. So he is actually, so it's Angry Ginge. It's not like a - No, yeah. He's just a nice guy.

22:01He does get angry. He gets angry at FIFA, but in a really funny way. And he's like, people really love him. Like he hasn't got a bad bone in his body. He's very sweet. He's like a bit of a comedian. And I think the first few bits, for most people there are a bit of like a facade. And then what's happened is he spent a week there and you can't help but be your true, true self. And that's what I think the crime is really nice because it's like now you're in, now you're in the jungle. Like now you have your camp mates and actually this is the real you and I think everyone's going to love him. I really do.

22:32Good. Yeah. I always think you've got to get past the first few days on that show and then you realise actually who people really are. But, mate, it's doing well. It's really interesting. I'm flying away very soon, actually, and going to go and talk about it. So, yeah, you get to be without me. What are you going to do without me? Nothing's going to change. No, probably enjoy the pod, I imagine. We've got a very special guest coming in, co-host whilst you're away. Funnily enough, talking of crying, she's just finished crying, so she's able to come back out into the open. how's she feeling well we don't stay tuned because what we're going to do because it's a really cool idea is to do some sort of big trailer do you know what we could we'll talk about reviews actually lovely little segue Peter we put out a video recently thank you so much online about you inhaling a creme caramel I also did it but you know the comments weren't about how I inhaled it they were about you have you seen the comments you kind of just sort of slurped it around and spat it out You didn't.

23:40You sucked it up good and proper in one. Just a few of the comments to take away. The way Pete sucks up a creme caramel makes me giddy. I imagine she's called Sue. I never thought I'd be so envious of a creme caramel. It's probably from a Carol. You just know Pete is good with that mouth, which is my personal favourite. And why is this wildly erotic with Pete and wildly traumatic with Sam? Which, again, is a personal favourite of mine.

24:16So, I mean, I still don't understand why we did that. You've sent the mums into fucking overdrive, mate. Well, it's not fucking hard, is it? Fucking it, I struggled. Yeah, but they couldn't get it in. What don't you struggle with? Oh. It's just to fucking have a bit of dessert. Even that, the euphemism sounds intense. Well, I don't mind them. I think they, you know, they're sweet. I thought you said, I don't mind a muff. I don't mind a muff. And also, I don't mind a muff. You know what I mean? But yeah, I quite like a creme caramel. I think they taste quite nice. You know, if you're going to do it, do it in one.

24:50Do you know what I don't understand? I don't mean to get vulgar, because I know we've got loads of ladies who listen to the pod, and we've got... Here we go. Hands are up. Get your fingers ready for the typing, Pipsqueak. I just... I don't understand. I'm sorry to anyone who might think this is a bit intense. Okay, here we go. All right, big build-up now. No, it's not that. Like, I can't understand how Pete's sucking makes a woman go, oh, great. Because I imagine. Unless they've got a lot to be. What, like a large clit? Just like, is there like a lot there for a lot of people? I don't know. But I think we're not going to go into this because I think, but I imagine the issue we have here is this is saying a lot about your knowledge of the area.

25:35I just, I feel like. So, I mean, presumably you're just sort of like a, I imagine you going down on a girl like a kitten licking milk from a bowl.

25:49Just sort of steady, slow. Don't do the noise. Don't do the noise. Oh, my God. That is absolutely wild. So, and I think that's where we're going wrong here. But the way you had your mouth open to get that creme caramel in, it's like, like that. So I'm like, I can't understand like what, I can't understand. I think the idea is just that. What you're hoovering. What you're hoovering in. But I think it's just the point that it's. Someone's going in. It doesn't, but no, not that something's going in. It's just, it doesn't bother me and it's just there. I think it's just more attractive there than watching you go.

26:27Because you spat it back like, do you know what I mean? What we do know is that Pippa has never had a female experience. We can tell that.

26:40That out of nowhere. I don't even know where that came from. When he said Pippa, I was like, what? Pipparet. Pipparan has never delved into. Oh, from her creme caramel sucking ability. I see what you're saying. Yeah. Right, yeah, yeah. Yeah, me and Pip Rand seem to be on the same level, terrifyingly. Yeah, which is worrying. But yeah, look, you know, what can I say? Hey, mate, you took that caramel down. What have I said before? You see a problem, you find a solution. You find a solution. And tell you what, mate, there was only one way I was going. We'll have a go, won't we? We'll have a go. We'll have a go.

27:17And did I have a go? Did I fuck? Did he? Absolutely. I did have a go, actually. No, I did have a go. This is actually big as well in the world of Peter James. the British Fashion Awards are going to be attended by Peter James, Jonathan Joseph Wicks. On Monday. On Monday. Now, this is a really big deal. I've just found out about what this means. I'm not a fashion guy. You know that. No. This is like the top level of fashion, isn't it? People dress to impress, sometimes to shock at these things. Are you going to be using the shock value? I am not. No. What are you turning up in? Well, I mean, listen, and I wouldn't consider myself a fashionista.

27:55Wow. But I am, yeah, I am going to be going. It's at the Royal Albert Hall. It is like the British Fashion Council. It's a very high-end night. What's a council? Do they all sit behind a table and like? Well, it's very, put it like, it's like Comic-Con for fashion. Oh, wow, great. That's the worst analogy. That's an amazing analogy. I'm in. It's nothing like that. But you see where like Comic-Con is full of virgins, this is full of well-dressed people. Yeah, I get it. So it's that sort of thing. But it's, yeah, I've never been before. I don't know why I'm going, but, you know, I'm going to go and experience it.

28:27Oh, you've got to do something intense. No, I'm not going intense because I think, especially as a first-timer, if you go there and try and be too fashion. Listen, the whole point, fashion and style are two different things. Fashion follows trends. Style is specific to you and what you like and what suits you. So I'm going to go quite classic. I have had a week and a half to prepare. Okay. so I managed to get on to someone. I actually did some fittings for it. Do you want me to come with you? I can bring the Crocs. No. You sure? But I have had something made for it, but I've gone very classic.

29:07Very, very classic. Yeah. There is a vintage brooch. You love a brooch. There is an ivory silk scarf. Oh, you love a neckerchief as well? It's not a neckerchief. It's an ivory silk scarf. and then I have had a beautiful suit made. Black? It is black. I'm going classic. I'm having my hair cut for it. I'll be slipped. I will. Yeah. I'm going to go for sort of like. You said Rihanna goes to this bad boy. Well, no, it was trying to, no, it was trying to explain to you the sort of people that go. Gandhi. He's dead, mate. David, David, David. Oh, sorry. But yeah, it's going to be that sort of thing.

29:51So I'm going to be quite out of place there. No, you won't. You're going to be right in place. Don't ever say that. What are you talking about? Well, no, like, you know, if fucking, if the pigeon lady from Home Alone don't know who I am, then fucking they certainly ain't going to know there, are they? It doesn't matter, mate. You're well-dressed. You're a sexy man who can do many things with his mouth with a creme caramel. You know, when you do the red carpet, it's the, who are you wearing? It's going to be one of them sort of things. Oh my God, you're actually going to say who you're wearing.

30:12Then you get loads of people that do like the, Oh my God. The fucking, what do you call it, TikTok things of like rating the people's outfits and all that sort of stuff. Yeah, yeah. Oh my God. Maybe I'll do a TikTok rating people's fits. Best dressed, worst dressed, all of that sort of stuff. Oh, that's why. So you want to just stay in the middle. You just want to be like, I don't want to be best or worst. Yeah, well, listen, it's my first time there. What I don't want to go and do is turn up looking like a fucking holy show. You know what I mean? Yeah. Yeah, you don't want to tell Lady Gaga and like, we'd like meat all over it.

30:43Well, no. I mean, that would be terrible anyway as a vegetarian. It's partly odd. Exactly. Or like, don't turn up in a bin bag. Didn't someone turn up in a bin bag, I feel like, at some point? Don't know. Yeah. Don't know. What would you wear if you were going to a fashion event? Because let's be honest with you. I feel like you are the fashionista now. Got me the Crocs. Shock value. Get the jelly shoes on. I mean, what would your stylist insist on? Because you haven't worn the Crocs for some time now, because obviously when you... Zara took them. Oh, God. I need to do a pair of crocs. I actually don't have any crocs.

31:18Yeah. So Secret Santa. If you're listening. Secret Santa. What does... Oh, God. Fucking hell. Sorry. Whilst we just get on that, we might as well just get it out in the open. What? We might as well. I found out some incredible news yesterday, which he'd managed to keep quiet. But whilst we're on that, it's official.

31:47I know, gobsmacked. So am I. It's official. He's off the market. Oh! I didn't know what he meant.

31:59We might as well do it here, mate, before you go Australia. You've said it already in an interview with someone else, so let's get the fucking, how did you do it? Were there flowers? How long will I love you? Candles. I mean, you know, say as much or as little as you want to.

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34:04Tell us. I've got a girlfriend. I've got a girlfriend? I've got a girlfriend. We've lost him again to the dark powers of a woman.

34:16No, mate, it was just super, super relaxed. So can we name her now? Do we still have to go with Pete? We can. We can. Okay, what do we call her? Talita. Sorry, what? Talita, yeah. Talita? It's spelt Talitha, but it's Talita. Peep. So. Yeah, mate, dude, you know what? I can't. It was, it's so boring. Really, but that's kind of how I wanted it to be. It's just like... How did she want it to be? No, but we just went for dinner. I was just like, I really like you. Tapes? No, we went for an Italian. Oh, nice. I was like, I really like you. Like Lady and the Tramp sucking on a piece of spaghetti? No.

34:55And I just went, I'd love to be your boyfriend. Not like that, I didn't say that. Okay, so you gave her a statement. I don't know why I'm panicking more now than when I was there. So did you ask her or just give her the statement? I gave the statement. So you went, I would love to be your boyfriend. Pretty much, yeah. Did you sort of, I would love to be your boyfriend? I can't even fully remember it now. Oh, itchy shoulder. Yeah, I just said, look, I really like you. I mean, I really, really like you. And you make me feel really... Hard. Comfortable. Oh, right, okay. I feel like I can be myself around you and all this kind of stuff.

35:38And I was like, look, I would just, I don't want to be dating anyone else. I really like you. And I'm 33. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. The age. I'm sure that swung it for us. Yeah, I just said, I said, you know, I wouldn't be dating someone this amount of time if I didn't think it had legs to last. So will you be my girlfriend? And she said yes. September. And so I said, great. Well, that is, listen, we're all very proud of you. And we are pleased that the year has taken a full circle. Yeah, I know. Hasn't it just? Full circle. it is still just the... Christmas is back on, bitches! Christmas is back on, slags.

36:13Yeah, Christmas is back on. So, I'm happy. Yeah, which is nice. Just so the 37th Christmas alone for me, Sam hasn't managed one. But there we go. Nice. So, has that changed your Christmas plans? Yeah, it has, actually. Thinking about going skiing in the new year. Oh, wonderful. With Louise Ryan and maybe Peep as well, which people are not. My good God. This is just so exciting. Do you want to come? No. Louise invited you. Did they? Yeah. Excellent. Oh, that'd be lovely, wouldn't it? The four of you and me. But the fact that you get invited quite nicely, they don't invite anyone. Yeah, but I imagine it's like when you invited me for that roast.

36:55Similar sort of thing. It's just that stretched over a week. No, they literally, Louise literally went, do you want to see if Pete wants to come? And you said he won't. No, I said, yeah. Because I thought you might. I don't know. I thought that might be something you touched in. I do really want to go skiing. But yeah, I think it would be odd for me to join a four-way frozen adventure. I disagree. A frozen adventure. I disagree. Yeah, no, I mean, it would be odd. Yeah. I mean, what am I going to do? So at the end of the, because you're not exactly the most fun guy in the world, especially when you've got a fucking bird.

37:28So when Louise, Ryan, you and Peep go to bed, what am I going to pop down to the fucking local bar and sit on my own in a pair of fucking moon boots? In a pair of moon boots. You know what I mean? Just sat there, just music in the background with just nibbling on a cheese fondue myself. All in one, probably. I love, yeah, all in one. Take it down. All right, mate, look, we'd love you there if you fancy it. All right, well, you know, if anyone would like to come skiing with me, let us know. Ball games galore. Maybe I'll take a relevanter skiing. Yeah. Skiing. Any one of the ones that didn't grab my cock during any of the performances that we've done.

38:10Yeah. That needs to stop the groaning. You say that, but you encourage. Yeah. If it makes Pete upset, then we don't like it at all. Anyway. So, funny enough, we kind of moved on from me there into you and the big news. And that is the biggest news. That is the biggest news. I mean, are we planning on doing photo shoots soon? No. No, no. So when, I mean, obviously in private, you're kind of official. Yeah. When are we going gram official? When are we changing the Facebook status? I don't think there's any need for it, you know. Oh, I think there is. I don't think there is. Listen, you talk about everyone being your family, all the people that listen to this podcast.

38:48Why don't you, you know, when are you going to reveal to them? Well, I don't know. Are we planning on Christmas pyjamas? No, absolutely not. No, you, the cats, no. So. I'll be doing that, but yeah, no. So there won't be, I just want to confirm then, a picture of the cats, you and Peep in Christmas pyjamas and Santa's grotto. No. No. No. No? Do you know what? I've done that before. Yeah. And I want to do a complete opposite of that this time. So, yeah. There we go. I can see you're uncomfortable because you're twitching. Where's my fidget spinner? I just never know what to say. I never know what to say.

39:25Well, you don't need to say anything. We're very proud of you. So let's move on to more things with you. the wheel. Well, this is us. Well, I think it's a more of a you thing. I was just sort of there as a chaperone. So the wheel, you've done it before. Sam and I did the wheel. Sam, one of his idols is Michael McIntyre. Any opportunity he gets in an interview to say one of the nicest people in the world. Talk us through it. Mate, it was one of the best days ever. So they only ever have one double seat and everyone else is in a single seat as the wheel. and the wheel goes round. And our chosen subject, which me and Pete actually agreed on because Pete was like, I can use common sense for this rather than, because if it was Pete's subject, if it was Pete's favourite subject, I just wouldn't know how to even use common sense to help.

40:20But with mine, we thought that Pete might be able to sort of chime in with just some logic. So we went for Greek classical mythology, which ended up being really fucking good. What I am going to say about this is, first of all, so it's my first time on the show. I've never seen it before either. Those chairs, an awful lot. Good fun though, isn't it? Yeah, well, didn't need as much spinning, didn't need as much awkward dancing, if I'm honest with you. There was a good 15 minutes worth of, and just going around again, keep dancing. I did more there than I did on Strictly, and it was unnecessary.

40:53That's all I'm going to say about that bit. Yeah, it was just... It's just fucking weird. And it was very hot in that studio. It was boiling. Absolutely sweating. Tommy Fury was on the panel. Oh, yeah, TF. Yeah. T-Fures. TF. He was good.

41:18Do you remember he, like, argued the point? Yeah. Yeah, he told Michael McAdoo he's wrong. I think it was about Rumpelstiltskin. Yeah. He understood the story to be different. But he was certain. God, do you know what we should have done? Because he was filming his doc, actually. We should have spoken to him about the Molly May doc and about Bambi. And about, like, the biting. Well, I mean, at the time, because we filmed this some time ago. Yeah, we didn't know. We didn't know. Yeah, I think he was on the naughty step at the time. Oh, yeah. So I don't think it would have been a great thing to bring up.

41:52Of course. Yeah, yeah, of course. So I think we were kind of respectful there. Also, he had a lot going on. You know, we could have spoken to him afterwards, but he was still seething from the Rumpelstiltskin drama. But we weren't because we got our question fucking right. Well, so we did Greek mythology, which I'm sure people watching the show will have looked at us and thought, what's happened there? But what people don't know is that Sam is actually a little bit like Rain Man, but without numbers with Greek mythology. Very, very, very good. Knows all about it. Absolutely smashed it. And you know when someone knows about it, it's not a guess, when they explain why the other ones aren't correct.

42:36Oh, yeah. And God, did he go to town. Really? That was your moment. Yeah. That was your moment. And you smashed the absolute fucking granny out of it. Depressing that that's my moment. Absolutely not. I mean, I was very, very proud of you. I look thick as shit. So how it's come across now is that Sam is all, behind that, he's a genius. What it's come across as is that I'm just sort of the thick enforcer. I'm there for no reason other than to just sit him down. My favourite bit is when I climbed on Pete, thinking that we'd got the question right, someone else's question right but the lady had lost well yeah this yeah and this is also the thing is because you you answer all the questions um and uh oh fuck me some of that was fun let me tell you uh answering the questions and just see if we you know how we were kind of getting on there was some logic used on my part there was some um just pick the first one pick the first one that lights up for Sam um did we do well no no we did not um but thankfully the expert subject you you you were great at but whenever we got something right which was rare um Sam would cheer it despite the fact that it meant that the person had just lost 50 grand or something um in a really heartfelt story yeah really heartfelt you know unfortunately I'm just looking for this money so that I could move out because we had a house fire a number of years ago and we lost everything.

44:12All right, well, let's hope you get this right. Oh, unfortunately, that's wrong. But let's see who did get it right. Sam and Pete. Yeah! Fucking yeah! I've climbed on Pete. The light's gone red. The woman, I don't know if you've watched the wheel, basically they descend into the floor. As she's dropping into hell, Sam is cheering like Lucifer because we managed to get a question right about where Birmingham is placed on the map or some bollocks. You can see Pete goes, and Joe and Pete goes, she's fucking lost, she's fucking lost. And he points to the TV. He points to the cameras. He goes, she's fucking lost, she's fucking lost.

44:48And I jump off you and you just put your head in your hands. And Sam goes, oh, oh no. So yeah, so I can't imagine we'll be back on again. One and done. We made an impression, got loads of tweets and there was actually a TikTok that went semi-viral about it. Well, we certainly did. I mean, listen, it was a tough one. But I'm very, very proud of you, the Greek mythology thing. My knowledge of Greece is minimal, to be honest with you. It's sort of, well, it's just non-existent. I've been to Rhodes and I like to Tziki. That's as far as it goes, really. But other than that, no. I've got weird things that I love, though.

45:27Well, exactly. What other kind of secret passions have you got besides? Well, obviously, Greek mythology is like my fucking jam. I love history. so ancient rome again most of it's like ancient uh alexander the great mate he went all the way to the indus river he has one he had one of the biggest empires the world's ever seen but he died in his like early 30s and he like literally took over half the map which is mad he was going to invade arabia but didn't he died before he could and that's how the seleucid empire actually existed because it fractured off into the ptolemy's the seleucid and the antigonid dynasties all three of them used to war each other and they were fighting over his body which is interesting i've been to rome a lovely pesta i love that shit so that stuff is me and i love geeky stuff so ancient european history yeah is really high on your which is just wild or lord of the rings law i know everything about lord of the rings law as in like law is made up no yeah i know it's not real i know but it's just something i'm really interested all right give me all right so what happens when you murder.

46:34In Lord of the Rings? Yeah. I mean, I don't understand what you mean by Lord of the Rings lore. Nothing really happens to be fair. Do you go to court? No. If you're an Aenur, which is what Sauron was. An Aenur? Aenur. Then you don't get to go to... Listen up just in case you're an Aenur and fucking Solomon the Trailer. But it has gods in that as well, if you go back far enough. If you go back far enough. Yeah, in the books. Because it's not just the Lord of the Rings. There's Silmarillion. The Hobbit.

47:07Oh, my God. No, law is in history, law. That's what he was like, you go to court. Yeah, right. So what? So there aren't like police officers? No. It's just orcs and elves. Right. I'd love to see you in the Lord of the Rings universe. But it's not real. Yeah, but it will. So you never will. Will you? Well, it's just my interest. It's just things that I like. Right. History and fantasy. Nice. Is a bit of me. I mean, if we had done my specialty subject on the wheel, it would have been dogs. Yeah. It would have been dog breeds. And I feel like, I don't think I could have helped you with that. No. You wouldn't have needed help.

47:46That's the thing. No. I was trying to think of a question, but I don't know what I could ask you. Okay. What dog has the shortest snout? Shortest snout? But you don't know the answer. No, I don't. Anything you gave me. Well, it would be any breccycephalic breed. So that would be... Fucking hell. Shih Tzus, Pugs, anything flat. Flat-nosed. Yeah, it's a flat-nosed breed. So if anyone, but you can't, dog breeds are slightly different because you can't specifically say any dog breed has because you have different genetic traits depending on what you breed with, which is why. That is dog breeds and that is your specialist subject.

48:20Oh, that's that conversation. No, no, no, no, no. Because I want to go into something else though because you have, this is again, sort of testing your knowledge. I don't have a lot. Well, you said you had good general knowledge. And so we have a few testers for you below here. Oh, excellent. I can't wait for this because I know full well that these are going to be... Yeah, just looking at them. Yeah, how many elements are... Why did you put them on his thing? How many elements? The answer's not there, is it? It's just what the question is. Okay, fine. How many elements are in the periodic table?

48:51I haven't got a fucking... Wouldn't have a clue. I'm going to say 36. No. How many is it? 118. 118? Oh, the table doesn't look that big. Where and when were the first modern Olympic Games held? 1908. 1908? Oh, the first, yeah. No, no, no, it was in ancient Greece. Was it called the Olympics then? I don't think it was called... Where was the first modern Olympic Games held? Oh, modern, sorry. Apologies. Probably Greece, I imagine, though, isn't it? What year? This bit's meant to be for me. Oh, sorry. What year was it? 1896. Oh, getting close. And was it in Athens? Yes. When was, oh, this we should know.

49:34What year was the first iPhone released?

49:40What are we on now? iPhone, what, 18? 19? 16. 16. I'm going to say... I actually know this. Oh, 17. 2006. No, it's too early. I think it was released in 2009. Seven. Fuck! So I was closer? Shit! Yeah, fuck you, geek. Ah! Okay, last one. You're definitely going to get this one. This one's for you. Troy Bolton and Gabriella Monette are the two main characters in what 2006 Disney movie? Even I know it says Montez. It doesn't change the question for me. Troy Bolton and Gabriella Montez are the two main characters in what 2006 Disney movie? You should know this. Why should I know this? You should know this.

50:24Dance, dance, dance. Glee. Glee? Close. High School Musical. The fuck's that? Zac Efron, Troy Bolton. It's where everyone fell in love with him. Oh, is that where you first noticed your punch on for him? Punch on. Unfortunately, Pete, you got zero. Oh, well, that is, yeah. It's a shame because that was a real cross-section of general knowledge there for me that I really... From the periodic table to the Olympics to Disney, you scored zero points. I mean, to be fair, that's pretty much what Michael said about us on the show. In fact, he actually called us useless. Did he? Yeah, useless. And said that we argued too much.

51:13And we came fifth out of seven. We came fifth? Yeah. I didn't even know that. I thought we did way better than that. Well, one of the things that worried us most was when they were actually doing the rankings was I said to Sam, I will never do TV again if Tommy Fury is above us. But he wasn't. Thankfully. He came sixth. Seventh. Oh, was he seventh? Okay, fine. But it's because he'd given up after Rumpelstilts. I had so much fun. I actually really fucking enjoyed that. I literally don't remember it. Oh, I loved it. I was so late. Do you not remember? Because I was driving traffic. I'd come from work or wherever the fuck I'd come from.

51:47So I literally got there. Got strapped in. Strapped into a chair, like literally within seconds. I was like, I don't even know what the game is. What do I do? Why am I spinning? Why am I dancing? doing that you know when they make you do a dance to like music as you're spinning around you've got to be like hey but you've got to do it for like 15 seconds so you'll be like down the camera and you imagine p obviously did you see on the thing when you watch he's going like this he's got his hair it's waving over his head and you can tell that it's taking every ounce of fiver in his being to smile and do that above his head never again never again oh it's so good but look this is going to be your last record yeah it is before you go to Australia are you looking forward to going back are you looking forward to seeing Nat and Dec are you looking forward to seeing Joel Domit how do you feel about going back to the jungle obviously you were there for a long time for the past two years you were there for a good period of time this is more like a holiday this time this is more like a holiday this is I'm only going for a week It's a long way to go for a week, but I am excited.

52:49I've been watching the show this year as well. And, well, what should I say to Anna Deck? Do we want anything from Anna Deck? Oh, money? Should we ask him something? Should we ask him to come on the pod? Should we ask him to come on the pod? Yeah, because that always works really well for you. Do you know who I d-ed? Tom Hiddleston. I am so embarrassed. Tom Hiddleston, but what Sam said was, no, we're really close. We are really close. He'll do it. He'll definitely do it. He messaged him on a train. He read it and didn't reply. And read it and didn't reply. Honestly, I... So, yeah, Ant and Dec will definitely come on.

53:23I'll ask anyway, just in case. Yeah, you might as well. You might as well. Should we get a little TikTok dance? Well, I'm not going, so... Yeah, I know. We can get you digitally there on the phone. No. Quite funny to get Pete there doing his part of the dance on the phone. It would be hilarious, wouldn't it?

53:40No. Do you know what? I do actually always get a bit emotional when I go back, though. Weirdly. I don't know, I don't really know why. It's probably because it was like one of the best moments of my life. I just had so much fun out there. And then you see other people enjoying it and you're like, fuck, I wish I could go and experience that one more time. It's like being a kid and going to Alton Towers for the first time and being like, wow, that was fun. It's so cool. What are you most looking forward to going back and seeing or doing? I'm most looking forward to going back and being around just like the, because there's massive like productions, like you know what it's like, sort of just outside of the camp.

54:21And just seeing how many works there and stuff and like being like, feeling like you're part of it again. Well, listen, I've got some advice for you. Obviously, because I was there in a similar situation for a month where it wasn't really kind of work. And you're going to be saying, you know, the first time obviously you were in the jungle and then you came out and we pretty much flew straight back. So you didn't really get a chance to see much of Australia. And then the second time you were working every single day because you were working on unpack. This time you're going to be doing the show, but you only really need for a couple of hours a day.

54:51You've got loads of time. So loads of fun activities to do during the day. You know, I really enjoyed all the activities that I went on, on the bus with all the friends and family. There's a really nice sort of wildlife park where you can go and hug a stinking koala bear. That was really fun. It's only two hours in a bus with no air con. You should try that. That's good. There's a water park that's always fun. That was really enjoyable. Lovely places to have lunch. You can sit around the hotel as well and just sort of like talk to Nigel Farage's social media people for a couple of hours a day.

55:27That's always fun as well. So there's lots of stuff to do there. But where you're staying, the evenings do get lively. I'm not there. Oh, no. They put you in a sheet hole. Oh, they're going to put you in a nice one. No, no, not a nice one. Oh, because I wasn't in a nice one either, mate. But just round the corner, because you've been in a similar area, I imagine. Just round the corner. So round this time of year, it was like freshers. They call it schoolies. Oh, schoolies, yeah. So you can enjoy that. I became friends. I've actually still got numbers of some of the people that own the schoolies clubs out there.

56:02No way. Well, because I was the social secretary for friends and family in the evening, wasn't I? Of course. Yeah. So managed to take them all out. Are you going to miss me? No, no. No, come on, big guy. Come on. Gone for a week, mate. Yeah, mate, it's a long week. You were gone for a week and I literally panicked. I told you. I started getting the shivers thinking you'd done something, that you'd like something had happened to you. No, I think it's going to be a good break for you. No, no. I don't. I want you to miss me. I don't think it's me that you're going to miss. I'm going to miss you. Yeah, but...

56:37Who's going to move the elf on the shelf? Oh, I imagine whoever did it this morning. Probably Pipsqueak, Pippa-Ren. Well, look, I'm gone. You're not going to care. You're not going to miss me. You're going to get whoever you're going to get on. It's going to be fine. And I'm just going to be like, whatever. Cool. Yeah, it's going to be great. But on the plus side, what you did, and again, I know we've kind of gone through a lot of what your week is and you've done some incredible stuff and whatnot. But the other bit of big news, which I know you're exceptionally proud of. And you made it official on Instagram.

57:10No, I'm not talking about the relationship, which we thought was the big news, but it wasn't. What Sam actually did was with another bird. Sam cooked his first roast. Oh, yeah, I made my first roast. Yeah. How did that make it in? How was that? Because you haven't done much else this week, mate. This morning? That's boring. You made your first roast. Yeah. Who was that for? Because it was a big bird. Yeah, no. I made my first roast. My first ever roast. And yeah. For all the trimmings? All the trimmings. Will you be cooking Christmas dinner this year for you and the family? No, I won't be. I will.

57:49My mum told me that I'd ruin Christmas once after I burnt the roast potatoes. So I never got asked to do it again. But did you burn them this time? No. So there's been improvement? No, it was because Pete was on the potatoes. Pete was on the potatoes. Because she's quite the chef. She's quite good, actually, to be fair. I know. Pippa showed me a TikTok the other day. Oh, yeah. So are you doing... Your favourite meal as well, Valka Pasta. Cooking lessons together? Potentially. We're doing an Italian night. I told you I'm dressing up as Super Mario.

58:18What's she dressing? Is she Luigi? Yeah. What? Yeah. Is it recorded? No, just doing it for fun. Is anyone else there? No. Italian theme night. I'm Mario. She's Luigi. We both cook an Italian dish each. Mine's vongley. In fancy dress? Yeah. Italian. Sort of like sexy fancy dress? No, just Mary and Luigi. So for your romantic night in, you're going to put a moustache on her and dress her up as a painter. Or a plumber. Yeah.

58:59Don't really know where to go with this.

59:04Say goodbye then. Fucking hell. I didn't know we were leaving. Well, wait. All right, we can carry on then. Thank you so much for listening to Stay Relevant, the podcast hosted by two best friends, me, Sam Thompson, Peter James Wicks. I will be gone next week. I know you'll all be happy, but hopefully I will return. Unless f***ing leave, and then I'll probably be shafted. We haven't said who it is. Oh, shit. Sorry. Could be anyone. you never know who could it be yeah thanks for listening follow us on socials that's Sam Relevant Podcast subscribe to the YouTube all of that shit and we'll be back with a bonus goodbye we love you so much motherfucker this has been a Staying Relevant production Pro Football is back and so are the predictions trade yours on Calci America's number one prediction market platform Indy takes on Kansas City with Indy currently trading at 28 % to win a$100 trade pays out$336 if they win.

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