188: The Thomas Brothers drop a bombshell

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1:53The laugh gives it away. Your fucking accent gives it away, mate. Sorry, sorry. Mate, this is a massive moment for me. I'm going to do an intro first, but I think you can already tell that we're all very excited here. Welcome to Staying Relevant, podcast hosted by two best friends. Unfortunately, there is only one of those best friends here. Peter, James, Jonathan, Joseph. Wicks is somewhere. He's on holiday again. I wonder where and I wonder who went. but he's not here. And we thought it was only right to be joined by podcast, television and personality royalty. Three lads that we have always wanted to meet up with and create some sort of content and have so much fun together.

2:43It's the Thomas Brothers, everybody. What an introduction. Why can't we do an intro like that? That was a good intro. That was so good. You've done this before. I'm going to be honest with you. I'm the worst at it as well. People will be listening to this being like, he's fucking shit. He hasn't learned a thing. That was really good. That was from the heart. It made me feel really nice inside. Boys, I want to start this off though, genuinely by saying, I'm sure that people who are listening to this podcast right now have seen the clip that you lads put on your podcast, which by the way is so funny.

3:13And we're going to get onto that in a little bit. But that clip has been sent to me about a million times. Which clip? Of you being like - The podcast talking about coming on. Oh, coming on. Oh, right. Yeah. It's good that Adam remembers. That's cool. If you don't ask, you don't get. Mate, I have been sending that clip so many times. People are commenting under most videos we do being like, you've got to get the boys on. You've got to get the boys on. And there was no way that we weren't going to do this. So boys, what an honour it is to have you here, lads. I love this. It's a fucking privilege.

3:43It's a privilege for us as well. We reciprocated. Yeah. Like this podcast and especially like what you and Pete have done. you're like you've been a huge inspiration of ours like we probably would never have started our podcast if it wasn't for you boys and like even all the content that we do we go like what about some and pete would they do that but they're doing this well knowing pete now probably no probably no i bet you was a bit more amenable to the things that you do to be fair you're such a great fucking family guys like like i obviously i watched like loads of your fucking shit that comes up and like you just you've always got a smile on your faces and you're always so god damn I'm happy.

4:19He didn't have to the jungle. Anyway, we won. Yes! Yes! It's only five minutes in right there. Can we talk about a moment though? Where the audience comes over to bash you in the crowd. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Sam must have felt so awkward. I think I threw it in bad. Do you know what? I was going to mention this a little bit further down because we don't want to delve into all the bad things because that's not why we're here. And we love you, mate. Not maybe though. One of the funniest things that I can ever remember. I'm glad you thought it was funny, Sam. Oh mate, it was fucking. So I went from funny to terrified so far.

4:58So for anyone who's listening, Adam won the I'm a Celebrity legend. I won, I fucking won. But you won it by a lot, by the way. Adam was a runaway winner for that. And by the way, GC, Scarlet Moffat, you were a lot of people that, Harry Redd, now mate, you beat everybody because your personality was absolutely wonderful, right? I appreciate that. So that's to start off with. But Adam had a tough time in there and it all came to an end on the final show. Adam and Jack standing there, literally interviewing everyone. I can see Adam's face when Jimmy starts going like, right, well, this is my time to say a couple of things.

5:35I saw Adam go, oh, for fuck's sake. Oh, I nearly died. And I saw you just going within yourself and I went, I feel sorry for you because you can't go anywhere, right? You've got to sit there. That's what I mean. I felt like I was on trial at that point. Do you know what? But you held yourself incredibly well, to be fair. And anyway, we won't go into that too much. But when you won, and Adam is on the throne, boys, right? And I've got, so we've got a whole show planned for Unpacked, right? And he's on the throne. He's white as a sheet and looks miserable. And he's like, on the throne. So I'm waiting on the queue, on the outside of the stage, because we go from the ITV1 show straight to Unpacked on ITV2.

6:13So I come out, put the crowd on Adam's head, and then walk straight back off to walk back on for my show with Kemi, right? Guess who our first interview is meant to be with? The winner, Adam. Right? On the throne. So I've walked back, and they've gone, right, three, two, one, and walk in. As I'm walking in, Adam's walking off. You can see me on the thing. If you watch it back, you can see me turn back to the camera. Because I've just watched our first interview leave the stage. And I've gone, welcome to Our The Celebrity Unpacked. and there's no one on the throne. Oh my God. And I've gone over to the throne and they're in my ear going, they're going, play for time, play for time.

6:50Adam's left, Adam's gone. In my ear and I've never done a live show before. Scott, I am fucking panicking. And I sat there and they go, go to Anton Deck, go to Anton Deck. There's a really joke in our family as well that you're Adam's like arch nemesis because like every job that he wants, you take, right? Very similar. And then finally, Adam has this moment, right? Where he's getting crowned by you, the fact that you walked on. And I've been in like absolute trauma. In turmoil going, just get me out of it, literally. Mate, do you know what? But everyone understood why. No, I know, I know. It was the funniest thing in the world because we're sat there and they've said, whole show's changed, whole show's changed.

7:33The autocue, they're just deleting shit off the autocue. Oh, I know. As we're going. I think the producer came off and she was like, Adam, you need to do the after show. I went, fuck the after show. You came off, you went, see how Sam deals with that one? And we were in the dressing room going, I didn't have to fuck you up, really. What a fucking white job. Do you know what? Adam, my nemesis is Roman Kemp. Yeah, yeah. Who sold it. So Roman's my nemesis, because we're not so much anymore, but we were at the same agency together. Right. And we, every fucking job that I would want, that man and his goddamn dad I love that fucking spandled ballet fucking Martin Kemp you've made enough have a day off have a lie down have a lie down put your feet up you're all fine I used to call up Roman and be like are you going for this job because someone else is going for this job and Roman was like I am going for that job and I went is your dad going for that job and he went he is and I went for fuck's sake and I used to put the phone down and be like right no point I get the call literally two days later and I'm so sorry they've gone with someone else.

8:41I know the feeling. Why? I think it happened on like two jobs. I think it was Hits Radio. Hits Radio had the demo. They were going to give me my own show. And then next minute, Next minute I was in the car, turned on the radio. You're live with Sam Thompson on Hits Radio. I was like, wow. Extra camp. Extra camp got cancelled. New host, Sam Thompson. I'm like, come on, man. Who's Pete's? So Pete's Nemesis. I said Pete's Nemesis. Who is it? It was. I don't know if it still is because they've gone different. It was Ovi Soko from London. Stop. The basketballer. The basketballer. Stop. He was with the same agent.

9:19And he was smashing it. But to be fair, Pete's had his time, because I remember growing up, there was a guy who used to do all the PAs. Because back in the day, everyone used to do PAs, didn't they? And Pete's name used to get thrown out. He was killing it. He was PAP. He was literally - Is that what they call him PAP? He was like, absolutely the top dog of the country. Really? So yeah, to the point where he was literally out every night. What happened to PAs? And he was going out for a good number as well. I remember his feet on there. Mate, do you know what? So PAs back in the day, I sort of missed, for anyone listening, by the way, PAs is a public appearance.

9:48Oh, yes. Basically go to a nightclub and you take photos of people and you get paid a lot of time in cash as well. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And they'd give it to you and literally be like, right, and you spend an hour there and you go home. Boys, I think we might be a bit too old for that nowadays, but I don't think they even happen anymore. Me and Pete did a PA together when I was out of Love Island. There's, it was at Club Chemistry. Oh, Club Chem! Club Chem! I was in Club Chem! I just saw that. I swear to God, I randomly found that on the train on the way down. I wasn't even looking for it. I was scrolling away.

10:18What the fuck? I'm doing this podcast today. He absolutely loved it. He was up and down the country. But boys, look, you have all, and I don't know a family, because you're a family of three lads, right? Who are all in the same industry and you've all gone your own lane. Like, Ryan, obviously you've started off, mate. You're the oldest of the three. I believe you're the oldest of the three. I am the oldest of the three, yeah. I'm the big brother. Yeah. How old are you? Four years older. How old are you, right? Oh, there we go. 42. 42 years old. 42 years young. Yeah. But that's not what he said before the camera's like, oh my God.

10:51Someone's like, oh my God, he's 40. Once you're under 40, you're like, fuck it. And then obviously, do you know what's crazy though? Is you boys look more similar than Scott and Adam? He's my arch enemy. I can't get any gigs because he gets them all but weirdly though you're both twins yeah so there's half an hour age well time difference between me and Scott and I'm half an hour older than Scott is we're like the in betweeners it doesn't make sense yeah but do you know but it works and so like Ryan you I imagine were like the have you ever watched Entourage yeah yeah you know Johnny Drama's the one my too he goes who's Ryan everyone wants to be everyone wants to be Tell to be that he made a mint by the end.

11:35But like Johnny Drama obviously goes out then he hits the industry before anyone else, right? So were you like the driving force for Adam Scott to get involved in that industry? I think, yeah, by default maybe that did happen. Yeah, maybe. It was Corey, wasn't it, that started it for all of us. Like that was where it started. I was in there at 16 and then from there Adam started to go and do some drama lessons. I was paying for him to do some stuff because he was enjoying it. That's so nice. He started doing it and he started getting all these jobs and he's probably got a bigger CV than me. Yeah, well, he had one job.

12:05Not probably, not probably. Yeah, you have. I had one job. It lasted 16 years. And he had a CV in different jobs. And then he got Emmerdale. Then he's doing Wall Street Road now. So yeah, I'm just - But let me put it into context. Ryan being our brother when we were teenagers was like having David Beckham as your brother. Because back then, Corey was fucking huge. Still is. Everywhere we went, if someone knew we were his brother, the whole dynamic shifted. Like we were known as the Corey brothers. Like we had a great life. That's so cool. We had a great life because back then it was like 20 million people watching Corrie every week.

12:36Did you ever tell me I'd be like, my brothers and Corrie? Sometimes I'd have to drop it in. To get girls, yeah. Do you know what's so funny? I'm going to tell you something now that I haven't told anyone else before. When my sister was on Maiden Chelsea, which is a lot different to my brothers on Corrie, I went to Magaluf once. I think I was 19. And I would literally start my pitch with a girl being like, my sister's on Maiden Chelsea. No. Yeah, yeah. Didn't get any girls and couldn't understand why. Now, now, I mean, I get it. But I was so proud of her and so proud of like the fact that I knew somebody who was like doing this, like back then what seemed like such a cool thing.

13:13To have a brother who was on Coronation Street must have been, that's like that times a million, right? Yeah, it was incredible, man. It was like, and literally Ryan was taking us out when we were like 15 to all the best spots in Manchester. That's so cool. We were in VIP with our oversized blazers on and baggy jeans, to be fair, baggy jeans are back in now. But like, yeah, it was incredible, man. And then obviously Adam went into, walk the road at the age of 16. So basically I had two famous brothers all my life. How much pressure on you? Yeah. And you were thinking, what do I do now? He had to go to Love Island, didn't he?

13:43The acting wasn't good now. I was the golden child in school. I went to private school, like four A's, five A's. I thought I was meant to be like the golden child. And then these two were both like fucking class clowns and then ended up smashing at the age of 16. I'm like, what have I done? And then people forget though, I wasn't famous until I was 27. Yeah, yeah. So I was the one taking the pictures of the brothers for a long time. Yeah. And it's not always been like this, but I can't remember it not being like this because now - I remember when you came out of Love Island though, and it was a big turn.

14:13Because Ryan was always like the famous one out of the three of us. And then when Scott came out of Love Island, I just remember like that he had, all the limelight was on him and Scott was the famous one. And I just remember looking at Ryan going, he's not going to like this. Oh my God. Honestly, I swear to God, I came out, bear in mind, I didn't know the show because that series two was the show that kind of like blew it all up, right? But we didn't know it was going to be that big. I came out and I remember we were in Magaluf somewhere and then like I think Tiny Temper was over there somewhere.

14:43I love Tiny Temper. Yeah, I do. And the next one no one was screaming for him. They were like, Scott, Scott. My brothers were stood there and no one even like noticed you. I went, what the fuck's just happened? Yeah, yeah. It was like a massive YouTube show. And you all knew at that same point. We are fucked. But that's so cool, man. So like for you all to be in the same, I think it's cool that me and my sister are in the same industry. But there's three brothers. You say that about your sister, but I do, about my missus. Now I always walk around everywhere and go, oh, you know I'm going out with Lucy Mech from TOWIE, don't you?

15:10Yeah, mate, that's pretty, I remember you guys hooking up. I remember because you did the island together, didn't you? Yeah, yeah, yeah. So it's like, I say it all the time. I think, how's Lucy Mech in my kitchen? Yeah, you know what I mean? What else has happened? We still can't believe it. Lucy Mech's part of our family, what the fuck? I think I was so bedded in as well. It's wild. I went past, tell you what I did do. I went past Sugarhut, right? And me and my mate used to go there and we used to stay in the hotel in Essex around the corner at Holiday Inn. And we used to go to Sugarhut to find the likes of the Lucy Mecks, right?

15:42Anyway, I'm talking when I've got these two children at double pram, yeah? And I'm walking down the high street and Lucy's walking past this double pram and I just looked at her, just wait there. And I went onto the road and I took a picture of them outside Sugarhut with the pram and I'm thinking, I've made it. That's full circle. I've got Lucy Mack with my children outside Sugarhole. Do you know what I love? Do you know what that was so beautiful about that? It's like how, how like, it's quite a few years on. How long have you been with Lucy Mack now? 10 years now. Mate, 10 years on, he's still that hyped is how I think every lady listening to this podcast is going to be like, I want my brother to talk about me like that.

16:17That's so fucking nice. Ryan fancies Lucy to this day like fucking mad, don't you? She doesn't fancy me though. It's always the case. something online. You're going through a good spell right now. It's going all right so far. Tell him what from the other day, right? Can I, can I ask you, I've never, I mean, Scott, you'll know about this, but like I, to be an actor, right, it's fucking cool. And like, I will never be an actor. I'll never know what it's like. But like, what was like the most intense storyline that you can remember both of you boys, like in your different shows that you'll never forget that mad storyline where you like, you read it on the script and go, holy shit, this is going to be huge.

16:59I mean, there was a storyline in Emmerdale where my character had, he was a farmer. He was called Adam Barton in Emmerdale and he'd actually taken horse tranquilizer, which was Ket, right? So my character was off his nut on Ket. You were amazing in that, by the way. I was a good one, Adam. You were unbelievable. Adam, how are you? Okay, okay, let's do a little bit. Don't, don't. Let's do a little bit. I was just going out of the head. You were unbelievable. I've watched that back in my own life. It was a good scene. It was a good scene. Oh my God, I forgot about that. It is incredible. You've got to watch that.

17:29It is wild. You need to watch it. I'm so sorry. Don't get me to do my cat face. Please, please, please, please. Give us your... Look, obviously, disclaimer, this is literally an actor who is doing his job. How are you doing that? I'll do... I'll give you... No, because I'm... I'll give you...

17:50It was something like that. No, I'm not doing my cat face. All right, fine. Okay, fine. I can't believe I'm hearing you. You've had a horse tranquilizer. See, how long have you got to - No, my character has. So how long have you got to do that for? So we had to do it. It was pretty much for a whole week, basically. It was like cutting from scenes to scenes, doing scenes where I was on care. But those storylines, they're an actor's dream, really, because you get to step into a world that is pretty much unknown, really. So it's just like, oh, I get to act this out. And so you're very lucky in that aspect.

18:21Everyone wants to do the Leonardo DiCaprio, like sort of like when he's taking too many ludes and he gets into the oh my god like that everyone wants to try that out I've never actually done a sex scene though I'd like to try and do that okay so Ryan have you ever done a sex scene? you've done multiple yeah just Corey isn't it so yes you're not like it's a little bit PG quick question Ryan if you're doing a sex okay what's like do you have to get like what so you're kissing someone he's really interested yeah because do you know what we asked this recently on the pod like how how do you normally it's like a room like this with probably 20 more people and the last thing you're thinking about is getting aroused because you've got lines to learn and you've got like loads of actions to do and it's like yeah it's a bit too much of a distraction to get to that point yeah i hear what you're saying this takes me back though because obviously my series of love island like i don't even remember series two but everybody was just shagging and looking back i can't actually get my head around it they were actual like real life they were shagging in daylight like I can't even believe looking back now it's like literally like in the day you just go upstairs and someone's just shagging no sorry no way no I swear to god like literally everywhere I love a day shag though it was like we weren't it was like they not came out the camera it was like we weren't on tv I don't know what happened because we didn't think it was going to be a big show yeah so everyone and there's one girl who said basically they can't film you if you are without the quilts on top so literally she straddled one of the boys like fully in front of all I was thinking it wouldn't be shown and they fucking showed it anyway but anyway it just takes me back thinking what was I do you know wasn't Geordie Shaw like that well I was just about to say Ryan so back in the day it was a lot different you had Jersey Shore in the States which was just crazy and you had Geordie Shore in the UK which was just pure like chaos and mayhem and people loved it to be fair but then inhibitions a lot more and Scott's right for reality television it was an unknown really back then so like we didn't really think that we were going to have a career in this yeah i thought when i started main chelsea i went i'm gonna do this for two years hopefully get some dates have some fun be cool for two years i wasn't and then go and get a job like that that was my my thought process and then i imagine it's probably the same for you when you did love island because series two was still a long long time ago you never you never knew so you were like fuck we'll have fun and then like yeah there was there wasn't so much pressure to have like a social media account or this i don't even think instagram was a thing properly back then.

20:47But wait a second, do you think it's going to come back around? I feel like it's all going to come back around. You know, because it went all polished. I think Geordie Shore type shows are going to come back around because people now want the real shit again. You know, when you're in though, because I did Big Brother years and years ago. You didn't bang your nerve, did you? No, hell no. Wait a minute, you did Big Brother? Yeah, I did Big Brother, Celebrity Big Brother. No way. When I was 24. Who was in it with you? About nine years ago. The year before you. The year before you. Was it a year before you?

21:13Who was like your go-to guy in there, girl? who was the one that you felt like? Paul De Nann. He was a really, really lovely guy. Like lovely. Jordan, I had Jordan the Weekender guy, Jordan Davis. Oh, Jordan, I've seen him in years. And he was really nice. Like, I had a lovely experience in there, but at 24, I couldn't do it now. Like, like back there, The Jungle and Sleap Big Brother, two entirely different entities. Like, I mean, Big Brother, maybe it's a little bit less, you know, of a dream to do than something like The Jungle is. but also like I think it's a young, more of a young Sam's game if I were to say.

21:51Yeah, definitely. But for that, I imagine it's a bit like Love Island, you're so in a bubble that you can't see the outside world. You have no idea what's going on out there. And I know it's a bit similar in the jungle but it is really heavy in a show like that. I think Love Island is probably the same. And actually, mate, I mean, I watched yours, Ryan. And look, we're not going to go into it because we're not that kind of pod but you had a fucking tough time. Jesus Christ Just say it how it is My God I remember I remember Literally My mum Adores you And was it She's like That Ryan guy Oh my God Like Do you know what Actually For you mate Not knowing What's going on in there That must have been Without going into No no no It's fine It's like You know It's a long time ago now You know But I think for me The best bit was The public Because When you heard them Say the words And you just feel So repressed That was the pressure off for me.

22:42Because until then it was like, everyone was, it's stupid things like we used to do a gym session and they'd all go and get a little, out some water out the tank and they'd miss me out. And I don't know if you've ever been in school or you're in the playground where you're the last one to be picked. Many a day. That, yeah, that feeling I haven't felt since I was at school. And I just got that like, why is everyone just avoiding conversations when I'm in them or not getting me that drink that they got for everyone else? and then I just I remember going in the pool thinking oh if we're going in the pool they won't see the tears in my eyes because I'm in the pool and then Sally Morgan who's beautiful was came over to me and it was a blessing but it was a curse at the same time because I was like oh she's just quite a mothering character so when she came over and said the words are you alright it just went and I was like it always is isn't it when someone says you're alright and then you're trying to hold it in oh it's bringing back the pain this way I remember it it was painful for us watching it because there's nothing that we could do as a family member to watch.

23:41I think my mum said it was probably worse for people on the outside than it was for me because they knew the sort of like how big it was out there. And I was in my little bubble. So it was only when the public mentioned it, which is, you know, credit to them. Those shows can be so lonely though. I mean, we've all had our tough times on these shows. But when it goes bad in that show, and especially that I was on Love Island All-Stars this time around. And I feel like when you're the bad guy, you're the fucking bad guy for the day. And literally everybody turns against you. because they don't want to be.

24:11But you can turn it round. That is the thing. I always find with shows, you can turn it round. Like you always get given a chance to like, I quite like the bad guy sometimes. Oh really? I love a character. I love, because when I'm watching reality TV, mate, right, I, I, everyone's a robot now. Everyone's a robot. Like, I love to see somebody who's flawed and then see that flawed person grow. Like I love a journey. I think a journey's fucking great. Yeah, but I wasn't flawed. I was just getting picked on I was just getting picked on to this day actually Pete Wicks does the exact same thing to me to be fair so I know exactly how you feel but do you know on a light note because we're a light podcast mate when you asked you were the first person I think to do the sort of big girlfriend proposal at Love Island he remembers thank you and we weren't even in thank you for this and we weren't even in the most romantic moments and I was the first one really To ever ask.

25:06You put the towels out, didn't you? I put the towels out, mate. Fuck, I'm so glad this is getting you. Look how happy he is. The rest is it deserves. No, because honestly, it's like he's been white from history. Well, mate, it was a bit, series two just in itself was a massive moment. And then you returned for All Stars. You're a different bloke then, right? Like, that's mad. Like, you know, and like, you did it for the Jungle, Alan, as well, to be fair. It was so far apart. And then you like do something that you sort of remember from a different life. and then you'll get, you get put in the exact same villa or the exact, well, it's not the exact same jungle, but the exact same situation.

25:42Yeah. And like, how's that? Because I've obviously never been in that situation where I've done the same thing but in a different life, right? Like, what's that like going back? I imagine, because we've changed a lot, I think you said, Scott, look at me and my research. Oh, I like this. I feel like you said it was more competitive, Love Island, the second time around. Yeah. First of all, can I just say that me and Adam, now where's this, both went back to do All-Stars 10 years later. So I did. Wow. I did Love Island in 2016. Then I had all these followers. I was like the number one brother for a minute.

26:10Next minute, Adam goes into the jungle the same year, blows up. We're twins. Whatever you do, I do. Then I went and did All Stars. I had a bit of a tough time. This time walked off and then Adam literally shuts down the whole nation. And then Ryan, you're next. Well, he is. This is how it works. Yeah, maybe. When Ryan did Big Brother, obviously not in any circumstances, but we both came third, didn't we? in Love Island and the jungle around went, he said, I'll show you how it's done. I'll come first. But I don't think he meant it in that way. No, I didn't actually mean it in that way. No, but no, going back this time around, it was difficult.

26:46It's a young man's game. Yeah, it's a young man's game. Reality TV is a young man's game. No, it is like, I just literally wanted to be, I just wanted to be myself. I just wanted to be a nice, normal guy. But in there, being a nice guy, you get chewed up. Yeah, you get spat out real hard. You get chewed up, because they don't want that. They think you're playing the game. I'm not playing the game. I'm just trying to be me.

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29:01I think, but boys, I think Pete in there would be fucking brilliant. Oh, it'd be amazing. What'd he do with it? No, he'd never in a million years. Has he ever done any reality TV like the, like Big Brother? No, never. He's, they've, everyone's asked him pretty much to do it. Strictly was the only thing he's done, to be fair. Oh, yeah, he's done Strictly, of course he has. But imagine, imagine Pete, right? In like this, Pete, we actually said, what are the reasons why you couldn't do Love Island? And Pete was like, I smoked 40 a day. He was like, he was like, you wouldn't see me. Does he still smoke 40 a day?

29:2740 a day. Do you know what people who didn't smoke all got smoky like basically started smoking after the line because at first the first time round that's where all the chats happened. Yes. So they had to stop the smoking now because too many people started smoking and now everybody vapes. Yeah. So literally that's the only breather you get. So you wouldn't see him. Pete was literally he was like no one would see me. I'd always be in the hideaway. He was like I'd be called Hideaway Pete. He was like you'd basically test your relationship by sending you to Hideaway Pete. Yeah he would as well.

29:55He looks fresh he smokes 40 a day. Well, he's had a proper glow up. What's happened though? Like, I feel like he has over the last couple of years. He's had a lot of work. No, I'm joking. He hasn't. He's literally changed his hairstyle. Is that all? And he drinks less. Yeah. And Pete's in love with life. It's funny you say that. It's funny you say that because I've got a friend. Yeah. And I asked my friend if she had any sort of like gossip for me because I'm going on Staying Relevant, right? Yeah. and I just thought I need something for Pete because Pete's not on today but I need some juice. Have you got any juice for me?

30:34And this friend of mine you might know she's called Olivia Atwood. You can't do that! And I said to Liv Has you just done that? I said yes Liv me and the boys are staying relevant today. Got anything on Pete we can talk about? She went hi honey what are you thinking? He sent me 100 red roses to my set in Ibiza now because he's gone soft. wait wait wait because he's gone soft yeah what well you hope he's hot I don't know but he's going soft in his old days isn't he then he says he's he relaxes at home in his jeans like a like wait like a fucking psychopath that is I can see it so clearly that is weird isn't it right have you got any more this is the best one this is the best one and I just said loads of laughing emojis back said I'm done he says he won't go for a poo in the hotel room because he thinks I'm going to take a picture of him.

31:27So he takes a shit in the lobby instead. I actually knew that. I actually knew he does that. And she goes, he's such a niche guy. Very complex. That is brilliant. He takes a shit in the lobby. So I knew he does that. So Pete hates like bodily functions. He's like, really got to think about it. I love a bodily function. I'm going to be honest with you. What do you mean you love a bodily function? I love a Bologna. I'm not even joking. Shove it up there. I love it. What? Where? I'm not saying like, I'm not like, please ram it in me. But I do like, when he, when I, I've had a few colonoscopes, I'm actually due one soon.

32:10Wait, what is that? It's where they shove a camera up your bum. Oh, okay. You just went up. I know. I was like, damn. And then I actually look at the screen where they're doing, I'm like, oh my God. Why have you had a few of them? I don't get it. Just because I've got sort of like a weak stomach. I've got a weak stomach. It was all about. It was all about. Things come out. Things go in. That's the way it is. The inner soul's not working. But he hates bodily functions. So like me and him have shared a room before, right? And I have never. We did the celebrity circle together, myself and Pete. And I think he held a shit in for a week.

32:47He held a shit in for a full week. to the point where I actually said to him, I went, Pete, look, I will go like this and I'll sing to myself and you just go for a shit, mate. And then he went for a long wee once. I knocked on the door and went, are you having a poo? No. He hated it. It's funny because I've been with my missus for nearly 20 years now. And honestly, hand on hand, I've never seen her have a shit. Really? Never. How do they do it? How do they do it? I don't know where she goes or when she does it. Hand on hand, never seen her sat on the toilet having a shit. Do you know what's crazy?

33:18is like, like, we, to any lady, we know you shit. Yeah. Like, just let it out. Yeah, do you know what I mean? It's not a big deal. No, I still don't want to see it. No, I do now. It's getting to the point where I want to see it. No, I don't want to see, I don't want to see your shit. But like, but like, I know you do it. So like, wherever you're scurrying to, or if you're holding it in, I was constipated for the first six months of my relationship. Like, because I didn't want to fart in front of her. Because I didn't want to opened up the floodgates. Yeah, I know the freedom. But I was literally in pain for the first six months.

33:50And now I let a little cheeky one out in the morning. So she says, I can hear you. Do you still not let rip in front of her now? No. Do you not? Not like, not directly. Do you know what I do, mate? I was the exact same school. So my girlfriend, like she's not like that fond of all that kind of stuff. So I'm not really, I'm not the biggest fart in the world to be fair. I'm sure I've seen a few bits. Has he farted in front of you? What the fuck? And everyone's standing in a circle and the way it comes, I've got something to say and then farted. I love it. And they are the staff. Welcome. But she's not so fond of that.

34:28So I would literally like go into my office and then like just let one out. And then recently I've been doing a little bit more and she actually called me up on it. And she's been like, Sam, we need to have a chat. And I was like, what? She goes, I know that we're in. But she was like, we need to keep some sort of romance alive. Like you can't just like absolutely hammer it in front of me. And I went, completely understand. And do you know what? I really, I actually respect it. It's like, you got to be on my P's and Q's, man. Yeah. I've been 10 years in, mate. Yeah, got to be on my P's and Q's.

34:55I can get too comfortable too quickly. Yeah. And so I've got to be, like you, Scott, I've just got to be like, let out a few here and there, but not quite as much. So how do you judge it now? Do you know what I actually do is I - I love the fact we're talking about that. No, this is a good topic. Do you know what I do? I looked at my producer, Pippa, just said, because I know this is maybe getting out. I opened my cheeks. manually and because it allows the noise to not be noisy it's a gust of air it's a gust of air so I will sometimes just manually manually open the cheeks and allow the wind to break that way the thing that's even worse though she probably knows now that you're going to be opening the cheeks she's actually once caught me like this and I've been like shit you know what's happening right now she goes that is one of the ickiest things I've ever seen in my life that is brilliant All I do is flush the toilet.

35:46Oh, that's clever. That is clever. Just flush the toilet. I'm way puffed out. Oh, God damn it. Pippa is just feverishly typing on this fucking thing. Be like, Sam, move the fuck off. How does it feel being a father? How to draw the line? Where's the line? Because we need to know our line. We have no line at all on this show. And this is why Stay In Relevance, I find so fucking fun. Because like, and especially doing it with you boys, we can go anywhere with this. and it's all just we're all having a fucking real good laugh and and and i know our listeners are gonna fucking love this but but you ryan i feel like i got a real good look at it when we did unpacked because i was sort of front and center to the whole thing right very protective both of you all of you of each other and um and i feel like being the oldest mate you must feel like a sense of like brotherly duty to like the younger bastards do you know i mean like when they're running around causing mayhem.

36:45Is it you who picks up the pieces? Is it you who people come to? Or is it one of the other two? No, it actually depends what it is now. But when we were kids growing up, it was always me. But now they've become adults and fathers. Now? We're 37. 37. I still look at them like my little brothers, whether they like it or not. They are my little brothers. And I'm obsessed with them. I love them like my own kids. and that's never going to change. And I don't think they understand because, you know, I've always said it like I was sort of growing up their father in a way because, you know, our dad wasn't there for a bit and, you know, I took on a bit of a duty and that never really left me.

37:26So now they've all grown up and I've done my job. I'm like, they look after me. You're in the home now, boy. I'll go to Scott for things and I'll go for Adam for things, but I am the luckiest big brother in the world. like the backbone I have in these two is any shit goes down or anything happens. Yeah. Like, you know, I was very proud when Adam was going, what he's going through in the junk. Cause I was, I felt like I was with, you know, it was like feeling grant, you know, looking after Peggy. I'm begging. I just felt like that's what's important to me. Like it's something like that's going to happen.

38:01I want to be with my brothers and like, if anything, like, you know, God forbid anything did happen. I'd want my brothers to be there for me. Like that's like where I'm most comfortable when I'm, I'm with them. It's a credit to Ryan that we are as close as we are as a family. That's because Ryan is like, Ryan's been obsessed with us all his life. So you're like, mate, just shut up. It was all the thing the last couple of years when we had to say, bro, like we are like grown men now. Yeah. Like, do you know what I mean? But he's, I want to kiss him and cuddle him still. Yeah. But that's so, get off.

38:27Do you know how many people I get? A lot of people went with me and my sister, right? So we're just the two and, and we're super, We're like you guys, like super tight. Oh, the mouse thing the other day. Oh, yeah. She got so fucking... You know, she ran at me. Did you see the end of the video? When she turned around, was that like... It looked like it had been sped up. Mate, dude... Do you want a fart in the spray? Do you know what? It's because she heard it. So she heard it before and she was like, I can't... I don't know what I've heard. And then because she's seen the fart spray prank before and Pete, when she smelt it, she put two and together.

38:52So she was like, you... And that's the turn. It was so quick. And then she ran at me afterwards, mate. And like, you cut. She pushed me over. but me and her are so tight and we get a lot of people messaging being like god like i'm not that close to my sibling and like i wish i was and i have spoken to my brother or sister in so long so to have you guys who are as close as you are like there will be so many people who whose lives get lit up by seeing that bond yeah i love it whenever i see you guys completely like even doing this podcast together as brothers like we just take it for granted like what we've got like not many people have you know the relationship that we have between us brothers and so again we get so many messages people reaching out and going you know you've watching you guys on the podcast has made us want to reach out to our brothers and sisters and stuff and it just goes to show even though we're having fun and having a laugh we're also like in a weird way helping other people out which isn't it which is lovely really oh it's great man and and i know that for a fact by the way the amount of people you mentioned us when you put that clip out about staying relevant like you boys have a real community, a real community.

39:55And I think it's beautiful. Fostering that and growing that is one of the best things we've ever done. Do you know what our community's called? What? And I didn't like this name at first. The Bromies. I love that. Yeah, thank you. He's just saying that. No, no, no, no. We're the Relevanters, mate. Oh, it's better than that. Pete fucking hates it. Like to the point where he refuses to call it the Relevanters, but they all know. I couldn't even say that. What's it? The Relevanters. The Relevanters. The Relevanters. It's a tongue twister. Listen, they've sold out the O2, all right? You've done something, all right?

40:24You know what, boys? And I mean this, I don't think you're all that far away from doing something like that. I really don't. Shorts all night. Boys, no, you can't. I mean it when I say it, you'll be so surprised at the community that like, because we've seen it with the people who messaged us, mate, about you, boys. Like you, boys, me and Pete have always said, if there's, don't, by the way, don't come to me or Pete for advice. We don't know what the fuck we're talking about. If you ever did want some, I would say, mate, shoot for the fucking stars because you hit the moon, mate. Do you know what I mean?

40:53You will guarantee you'll do it. I promise you. You know what's beautiful, Sam, as well? And growing up, my first impression of P, I remember we were in the door chest and he came up to me and it was after Big Brother. And I just remember this sense of warmness and this like, you know, really championing me. And we do this all the time in our meetings. And you know what? We use your name so much that sometimes like, oh, why you mentioned Sam and Peter again. But it's because we look up to you guys and we champion you guys and we love and respect everything that you do in this game. And like, you bring a smile to our faces and we're like, fucking hell, it's not easy to do what you do.

41:31And we know because we're in it ourselves. But like Adam and Scott say, you know, we wouldn't do this podcast if it wasn't for you guys. But, you know, it's interesting for us, like to see what goes on behind the scenes and come here and see this amazing team that you built, this little family, this little community. and we're just you know in the first year of it and we're enjoying it and we just like to put a smile on people's faces Ryan let me tell you it's the most amazing feeling that's one of the nicest things that I don't think anyone's ever said to me before by the way that's not in a laugh or anything in any sort of way boys like that that to me is is is a really really lovely lovely fucking thing just to hear and I'm really we do look up to you to the point that literally right I do this so if we're doing an ad yeah so I'll get I've got your ad up right And I'm like, boys, fucking gather around here.

42:19I'm like, it looks fucking simple. I said, he's a fucking genius. I said, that shot there, it looks like nothing. But it's everything. It's everything. It's everything. The fact he's got that shot, right? I'll tell you what it was. There was something, there was a shot where, oh, what was it? And it was, I think he was riding in the back and he was like, just a little, he turned around, it's the wide shot. and I said it's all the shots the little shots I went I said do you think he's just popped up I had to tell these boys why is that ass shit why did it work and I went do you think Sam's just popped up he's a fucking genius mate do you know what Scott Scott are you mate you've made my fucking day my year Scott I takes me so long I sit there I sit there and I take so much time and pride and effort over it that I'm literally like to have no one ever said that to me so I really appreciate that I think a lot of people think it just comes like that it just doesn't And sometimes you have a fucking block and you're like, I don't know what the hell I'm going to fucking do.

43:16It's the little things. It's the shot. It's the tiny little shot. I genuinely believe this. I think you boys will, the community you've built in one year, but I didn't even know it was one year. In one year, it was phenomenal, mate. And I am going to get you to slag each other off ever so slightly. Adam doesn't reply to your messages. I watch your clips. Oh, right. And I know the feeling, Adam, because I'm the exact same man. and like the anger, the anger that other people will have, right? To out of not fucking replying is exactly what Pete gives me or the team gives me or my sister gives me.

43:53Mate, we want to reply, boys. Let me tell you, I will look at my phone, know I have to reply and go, I'm not quite ready for that. Yeah, thank you. And then I'll put it down. I'll go, I'll reply in like 10 minutes after I've done whatever it is that I'm doing. And then completely forget. And I'll forget. And then three more people have messaged and so it's down the list. And then when people bring it up, I feel so bad. And then you look at your WhatsApp and you go, it's all them. Yeah. And then you're like, but I call you or something like that in between. Yeah. But I hear you, man. And it's just interesting.

44:20I see a lot of ourselves in each other. I get overwhelmed so much with everything. Not just by like texting people, but just with everything. Like even last night, like I was just over and my wife who just like just picks up on my energy and she's amazing. And she was just like, you need a cuddle, don't you? And honest, that I nearly like just having a cuddle off my wife is like the best feeling in the world. Because you just like having someone that understands you without even having to say anything is just amazing. But yeah, but I just feel myself getting overwhelmed a lot with even the smallest things.

44:51And, you know, some things that people might not necessarily pick up on. I'll pick it up and I just feel like I'm very emotionally like I don't know what it is. I just pick up on energy. I pick up on energy in the room. I know it's very hard to articulate. It is. I know exactly what you mean. like if an energy is slight, especially with that fucker there with a round head, Pippa, if Pippa's ever even started you off, I can tell instantly. Yeah. I'm literally like something's wrong. I'm like, I can tell, I can feel it in my soul. Yeah. Like my girlfriend, my sister, like my Pete, if Pete, mate, my Pete, if Pete, my Peter, if my Peter walks in and he's a little bit stressed, like I know, I can tell immediately, well, it's not hard with Pete, he boots the fucking door and goes, he literally goes, right, and I'm like, oh God, it's going to be one of those days.

45:33Everyone get down. but I know exactly what you mean. It's an energy thing, right? Yeah, 100%. But then also it's like, if that happens to me, if people don't message me back, I get really like, oh, they don't like me. They're not messaging me back. And yet I don't do it to them. And I'm like... Well, I'm obviously meditating a lot all the time, but my brain never stops. Yeah. But luckily I think I found my ways of functioning. Like I'm very obsessed with work and love what I'm doing and everything else. And I've got a PA who basically pays all my bills. Anything online, I don't shop on. I can't.

46:02It just hurts my brain, technology. I still don't have a PA. Oh yeah. I think you need one. Pippa knows. But do you know what the big thing for me was? And I will never stop this for as long as I live is gaming. I game. Oh really? I game. My girlfriend like is aware. Like, cause it's a bit of a weird thing to do in your thirties, right? What do you game? I play it all, man. I play it all, man. I play, I play Call of Duty. Some of my friends still, um i'll play like nerdy little history games sometimes like on a computer anything that i can get taken away from reality from reality yeah i my brain is so fixated on reality during the day like like what scott just said i i have like i have three businesses i have the podcast i have like my own stuff that i do and like i never and then i overwhelmed like adam said i'm all over the place i don't have a pa um and so when the day finishes i literally just go i need to go and just sit silently and take my brain away.

47:06Or I like watch Harry Potter or Lord of the Rings. I need to be in a fantastical world that isn't this one. Can I ask you a question though? Because I don't really like to be diagnosed with ADHD, but I'm very aware now that I'm neurodivergent in some way. Because even being with my missus now, her brain, we just function in completely different ways. But if I'm on technology, like on my phone, that's when I feel the most scotty. But if I literally put my phone, I'm always putting my phone down at home now going for like long walks. I know, but I'm like, I'm prioritizing it so much. And as soon as I'm away from my phone, as soon as I'm just literally in nature or something like that, I'm a different person.

47:40So the question that I've got about ADHD and neurodivergency, you know, for now is like, is it technology that's making it worse? I believe so. I don't know. I'm not a scientist. I believe so. I've, we looked at our screen time actually on this podcast not long ago. I had seven hours, seven hours screen time. And that makes, if you think about the content that people do, and then we're going to wrap this up afterwards, and then we're going to do a bonus episode. If you boys are happy to stay, stick around um we we that we consume content now in a way so tiktok is the perfect example tiktok once the video is finished um will keep playing and when you swipe it it's instantaneous like it's reels now as well on instagram tiktok started it and they're short videos right so it's literally bang new content bang new content so now we get bored of things quickly so we are our level of we're anticipating the next thing even more what's the next video we're going to watch the next room scroll we're going to see.

48:29Everything's so quick that when we used to look at content, it was long form. It'd be movies or it'd be TV shows and stuff like that. And now with social media, everything is so fast paced and everything is at a flick. It's why dating's the same. Your dopamine levels are so good. Your content though, they took us on a bit of a journey. It was like a little short life. That's what I love. And that's what I love. And now I bet you've got to change the way you do it. That content's dying. Yeah. And it makes me sad. Yeah. Thank you so much for joining. this is the main episode the reason that I'm taking this quite calmly is because we have the boys for a fucking bonus episode we got the bonus episode we ain't fucking leaving we ain't fucking leaving there's no way we're going to have the lads here and only do one episode so we're going to have them back for the bonus episode so please do comment tell us what you thought about the lads obviously their podcast is actually huge to be honest with you so I mean fucking hell you can catch that wherever you get your fucking podcast although they're going to be doing the O2 soon so you better get your tickets for that.

49:28He's amazing. But yeah, guys, thank you so much. And we'll see you literally on Wednesday, but right now, basically. Because it's on Wednesday. Fuck! We're going to see you listening on Thursday, but boys, we're going to carry this on right now. This has been a Staying Relevant production.

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