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Staying Relevant

9 Aug 2026 · 44m · 22 chapters

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192: Sam’s big news and Pete’s leaving us?

In short

Pete Wicks is leaving the podcast temporarily to film a Thailand documentary (three weeks), with two hour-long Thailand specials. The episode also covers Sam’s new hosting role on Jungle Celebrity Unpacked, plus banter about Christmas arriving early, flip-flops vs “foot gloves,” and a TikTok “things you might not know about us” segment between Sam and Pete.

Guest backgrounds

No external guests. Hosts are Sam Thompson and Pete Wicks (with their PR/partners referenced: Tally and Pippa/Liv).

Key claims

Pete will be largely uncontactable in the jungle (no electricity/running water), staying in hammocks and bathing in rivers; Sam becomes the host (with Kemi Rogers) after Joel Domit; Sam says he’s not doing Strictly; they discuss “Jungle Celebrity Unpacked” as a grassroots presenting milestone.

Notable examples

Pete’s Thailand plans include monks and a “mushroom mountain” trek; Sam’s Australia hosting run is ~3.5 weeks; they cite “17% of Brits” wanting flip-flops banned in cities.

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Chapters

1:34

Pete's Departure Announcement

Pete shares exciting news about leaving for a documentary in Thailand.

“go fuck yourself heavily oh heavily go and heavily fuck yourself yeah don't just lightly penetrate yourself really fuck, really go deep Oh, they're on their journey into work now going, oh, I don't know about that.”
2:36

Preparing for Thailand

Discussion about Pete's plans and concerns for filming in Thailand.

“He's coming back, but he's off for work.”
4:34

Filming Challenges and Experiences

Pete details the unique challenges of filming in Thailand's jungle.

“But look, mate, we know how much this means to you.”
6:13

Wrap Party and Farewell

Sam and Pete reminisce about team events and wrap parties.

“It's having a fight with an Australian gap year student.”
8:03

Upcoming Christmas and Celebrations

Discussion about Christmas plans and holiday festivities.

“Some music no it's in Essex oh why are you nodding like that?”
10:33

Summer and Flip-Flop Debate

Sam and Pete debate summer fashion choices, particularly flip-flops.

“To do it in July, the end of July, and have like John Lewis stocking Christmas decorations now is fucking mental.”
14:01

Summer Footwear Debate

Discussing the appropriateness of wearing flip-flops in the city.

“I imagine we were sort of semi-similar, to be fair.”
15:29

The Rise of Sock Shoes

Exploring the popularity of five-toed sock shoes and their comfort.

“I'd rather be wearing a flip-flop than Pippa's special ballet pumps.”
16:59

Foot Size Banter

A humorous discussion on foot sizes and their stereotypes.

“I can't say I've purposely ever, you know, I've obviously touched grass before, but I don't think I've ever gone out to touch grass.”
20:09

Shower Conversations

Sam shares his unconventional shower routine and interactions.

“No, because if it was, then you were sort of just below average and your penis is tiny.”
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22:25

Sam's Hosting Announcement

Sam reveals he will host the show 'I'm a Celebrity Unpacked'.

“No, on a serious note, you're talking about PR, talking about, you know, we've got these presenting jobs and whatnot.”
24:39

Excitement and Nerves

Sam shares his feelings about hosting and potential challenges.

“So you're going to be in Australia for how long?”
28:00

Excitement for New Roles

Discover the hosts' enthusiasm for new hosting roles and changes in shows.

“I would just, in my head, that, so she'd obviously, I would love to see the jungle for all, and I just think she'd be brilliant in any way, to be honest with you.”
29:54

Living Arrangements and Anticipation

Learn about the hosts' living arrangements and expectations for the upcoming show.

“Because, you know, as a panellist, it's great and you're there, but you're not the host.”
31:23

Supporting Will Best

The hosts express their support for Will Best as a new presenter.

“With Acast, you can access the world's largest podcast marketplace.”
32:35

Discussion on TikTok Trends

Hear the hosts discuss emerging TikTok trends and their implications.

33:10

Memorable Moments Together

The hosts recount funny and memorable experiences from their past together.

“It's things you might not know about us.”
35:06

Water Park Adventures

Revisit the hosts' adventures at a water park and the fun they had.

“I don't think you were with me in Tenerife for celebs go dating.”
36:39

Reflecting on Their Journey

The hosts reflect on their journey and the memories they've shared.

“And I kept going, this is fucking weird because all the kids were looking at us and all their fucking...”
39:20

Niche Habits and Personal Insights

Explore the hosts' unique habits and personal insights in a light-hearted banter.

“What do you think your nichest habit is?”
42:01

Morning Rituals and Bath Time

The hosts discuss their morning routines, focusing on bathing habits.

“I shower, have a bath and then shower again.”
44:01

Reflecting on Memories and Achievements

A nostalgic conversation about past experiences and achievements in their careers.

“Well, listen, you hosting one of the biggest shows on TV, I would say, is achieving a lot.”
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0:40Welcome to Staying Relevant, the new episode with me, Sam Thompson, and my best bud sitting opposite me right now. It's Mr. Peter, James, Jonathan, Joseph, Jeremiah, Jezariah, Jonathan, Jimbo Wicks. I ran out of J's. I couldn't really think of any on the spot then. John. John. That's your actual name. No. Is it not? Peter John Wicks? No, Peter James. Peter James. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So this is the main episode, which means it's Monday. you'll be able to watch this on Josh Kira and Paul's YouTube channel for 5pm on Wednesday and then we'll be doing a bonus episode which comes out Thursday which you can watch on Josh Kira and Paul's YouTube channel for 5pm on Sunday which means you can catch us on a Monday, Thursday, Sunday make sure you rate, review, do all of that crap you know the score by now they will be swearing if you don't like it go fuck yourself heavily oh heavily go and heavily fuck yourself yeah don't just lightly penetrate yourself really fuck, really go deep Oh, they're on their journey into work now going, oh, I don't know about that.

1:49Yeah, they're all in the commute on the tube. Yeah, they're all on the tube, ready to go. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, you know the score by now. And if you want to email us at any point, make sure it's good, because as Sam mentioned on the last sort of bonus episode, so I'm just preparing you in this main episode for the bonus, don't sing crap in, because it does aggravate me. It does. He actually got annoyed for the first time in quite a long time. He got annoyed at an email that got sent in. And after that, Sam said, do you not feel bad for Lee? And I said, no, fucker. Yeah. Yeah, but we've missed that side of Pete, to be fair.

2:24He used to get so angry at them. But you're actually not going to see Pete getting angry for a while. Beautiful segue. Yeah, Pete is leaving us for good reasons. Ever. He's coming back, but he's off for work. I think we can say where you're going. You're going to Thailand. I am off to Thailand, yeah. Yep, yep. I'm going to do a documentary on Thailand. Is it for dog's sake? It is for dog's sake. Pete is going abroad. This is something new, isn't it? Yeah, it's brand new. So, yeah, we are taking it on the road or on the plane, however you want to kind of look at it. So I'm going to be over there for three weeks.

3:03Three weeks. Filming, I don't know if I can say how many episodes. Well, I'm going to, two very special episodes, two hour-long specials in Thailand. and it's going to be it's going to be heavy it's going to be heavy from what I understand you're staying in the jungle for some of it I will be actually staying in the jungle from what I've heard no electricity no running water so I'll be bathing in rivers sleeping in a hammock in the trees very up your street living my best Mowgli which for me no reception, no signal, no nothing I'll fucking love but one thing I'm worried about I've been to Thailand, have you been to Thailand?

3:40So I went to Thailand years ago. Lovely. Coast of Mui. You know, did a bit of island hopping. You see all the beautiful sights. I'm going during monsoon season. Oh, nice. Very hot. I don't know what to wear. Cargoes. We were talking about this earlier. Just cargo pants it. Because I have to wear, if you've ever seen for dog's sake, the same outfit for the entirety, which is an issue. I will be dropping the gilet. I don't think that's a necessity. It's going to be warm out there. Yeah, it's going to be fucking warm. Mozzie's everywhere as well. And we know how much they love my face. Oh, Pete's going to be, Pete's going to literally be like, and here you have a dog.

4:15And he's going to literally be like. So apparently there's a dog. Hey, you guys. Apparently there's a dog here. Yeah, it's going to be fucking terrible, isn't it? Jesus Christ. Yeah. And also, to be fair, you never really get lucky around this time because you did the Christmas special for dog's sake in 30 degree heat last year. Yeah. This year you're in Thailand. Yeah. But look, mate, we know how much this means to you. So we're ready to hold the fort for you as you go away. I don't know how we're going to do it. I don't know how it's going to be. Well, I'm going to be, you know, I've been away before, but I have been contactable.

4:47I'm pretty much uncontactable for three weeks. So, you know, how are you going to cope with that? I have no idea. I'm sort of looking at Pippa sort of like being like, I'm just going to hope that we get through. I will beg, plead our listeners, stay with us. Plead. I know Pete's going and I know that's a big part of the pot. Maybe I could send you in weekly sort of updates. A weekly little video of Pete. Have you ever seen that? You must have seen Tropic Thunder. You know when Ben Stiller's character, he's got like a panda on his head and he's like, and he's like gone full jungle mode. If we can get a few cutaways just to, and this is what Pete's up to and it's just raining and it's happening.

5:27He's like, I'm here in Thailand. I'm here in Thailand. There's some noises. Yeah. But yeah, no, I'm very excited. But it's going to be, do you know what? What I will say, Obviously, we've not started filming yet. We've just finished kind of four months and finished series four, but it's going to be different, very different to series four, obviously, which is filmed in the UK, based on, I think, the things and the issues and stuff that we're going to be dealing with that there are very, very different to what we've got here. So I'm very excited. It's going to be emotional, I think. Emotional. When's it not?

6:00I'll tell you what I will be looking forward to is I'm spending some time with some monks. well you know they don't booze no hopefully they're silent monks um because that'll be great telly just just stroking dogs silently you're gonna go up mushroom mountain what's that it's basically you got you trek up this mountain and like take mushrooms at the top of it basically is this like an ayahuasca type sort of yeah but it's for more travellers it's a bit more of like a destination but like you can go up this mountain just take mushrooms I think the biggest fear for me is not actually filming the show or anything else.

6:34It's having a fight with an Australian gap year student. Yes. We're all very excited for that. You know what I mean? You know, I'm just in my gap year. Or there'll be some fucking **** from your fucking area. Yeah. Well, I mean, that's where I went in my gap year. You know, I came to find myself in Thailand, and, you know, I came four months ago, and I've just stayed. So, because it just fits my aura. The people, the culture. The spirituality, the culture, everything else, you know. Just realise that, like, England, you know, the world's so much bigger. because we only get one life. So why not do something good with it?

7:06So what are you doing with the good with it? Well, I've got a scooter. I've got a guitar. Does anyone want to hear me play the guitar on the campfire? Oh, God. I will fucking, honestly, my fucking size nines will go straight for their fucking throat. Are you going to be staying at hostels? Please tell me you're going to be in hostels. I'm not actually backpacking. Well, I don't know. I mean, you never know. No, I'm in the jungle, and then we're, for some of it, and then we will be in a hotel to do, you know, I can't give away why we're going to be in a certain city. But it's, yeah, to deal with a prevalent issue out there.

7:35But I've been having my vaccinations. I've actually been this morning, which is why I came on the bike, for the past four weeks, your fucking typhoid and fucking hep A and fucking hep B and fucking rabies and all of that bullshit. Bring back your drawer to the jungle. Maybe take your little outfit. The loincloth. Maybe take the loincloth out there and just start thrusting. Yeah, well, yeah, yeah, yeah. I imagine the dogs would love that. but yeah I'm excited for it I am excited for it genuinely we're going to miss you greatly sir gotta say we're going to miss a lot not only are we going to miss you sitting here on this podcast we're going to miss it Pete likes to sort of maybe not every month but every quarter take the team out although he's been doing that recently with his For Dog Saints team instead of the Stain Relative team we had sort of a bit of a rap party where I did a little bit of karaoke and whatnot which was delightful I do it every year so the people that work at Conor Basildon like family for me really because we film there so much so every year I put on a little party for a buffet and a DJ.

8:33Amazonica? Some music no it's in Essex oh why are you nodding like that? this year there was a photo booth yeah oh and a fancy dress box it's weird you can catch Pete in a few different sort of like moods right and it's like I know that you would have like gone full hog for it But he's kind of the guy who either hates every second or gets really into it. So I reckon you had the fluffy thing that people put around. I had the flamingo glasses. At one point, I was a banana with some big sunglasses on. Yeah, of course you were. Of course you were. Yeah, doing karaoke and whatnot. But it was fucking delightful.

9:14But we normally do kind of the wrap party the last day of filming. But this year, we can't because of Thailand and we've got some other bits and bobs going on. So everyone was at work the next day. funny is what I would say when you see people, because I never get an opportunity to see people after a wrap party. And as we all know, I like a drink, but I generally get up and I'm fine. Not everyone's the same is all I'll say to that. Not everyone is the same. Actually, someone threw up in their bag. Wow. So it was nice. And then had to tip the sick soup out. I won't name any names, but I hope you're feeling better, Lauren.

9:50Lauren. Looking at you, Lauren. Bloody hell. But yeah, so that's that. But yeah, and then look, by the time that happens and by the time I'm back, we're coming into September, which means we're in the last quarter of the year. So you know what that means. Christmas time, baby. Yes. It's already upon us. It's already happening now, actually. It's just so fucking annoying. Like, we've only just fucking got through Easter. And do you know what I mean? The eggs have barely cleared the shelves and now there's Elf on a Shelf out. You know what I mean? like fucking wrapping paper. I just don't like occasions.

10:28We all know I don't like Christmas, but it really, it's just getting earlier every year. It is. To do it in July, the end of July, and have like John Lewis stocking Christmas decorations now is fucking mental. And people are buying them as well. Are you feeling festive? You love Christmas? No, I love the summer too much. I don't want to think about Christmas yet. Christmas for me happens Halloween and onwards, and then you're like, here we go. Okay, all right. Okay. That's the run up. Is Halloween an occasion that you enjoy? Yeah. Well, actually Halloween was a very big moment in mine and Tally's relationship last year.

11:02So yeah, it's quite something that I look forward to now. It's like an event. Why was it a big moment? Was that your first fucking or something? It's the first time that Tally met my family. What, Halloween? Yeah. No, because we went, we went. What, did you take a trick or treating around? No, we went pumpkin picking. Karen. We went pumpkin picking with my family. Oh, I remember the pictures. Oh, that is fucking cute. And then we carved out our own little pumpkins. Did you know, I love you and the pumpkins? No, no. But we did two cats. We did little cat faces and little lanterns in there. So I've always liked Halloween.

11:33You like Halloween, to be fair. I fucking hate it all. No, Maya's party. You're all about that life. Never been. Never been invited. You've never been or been invited. No, I'm not even on the secondary list. Well, look, I don't want to give things that there may be a party happening this year. Who knows? Oh. Who knows? Maya. Not Maya's. Um, but then we have, and I shouldn't like it because of the animals, but I do love fireworks night. I don't know. So, yeah, I love all that lead up. That lead up's fucking great. I hate the lead up. As the year tails off, it just sort of reminds me of what another waste of a year I've had.

12:08And then at the start of, um, uh, obviously a new year, it reminds me that this is probably going to be another bad year. So there's not really an area of the year where I feel sort of happy. Yeah. Although you can be spending it not on your own this time, I imagine. What Christmas? Yeah. I hope not. All right. But, you know. You never know. It's a few months, actually, to be fair. I hope not. Yeah, we could be, you know. Why don't we spend Christmas around Thompsons? Who's Thompson? Me. Why don't we spend Christmas around the Thompsons? Sorry, I didn't realise that we were too. Well, yeah, Wix could spend some time at Thompsons.

12:42Well, we have the Wixies around the Thompsons. That'd be fucking lovely. Well, yeah, I think I'll be away. Why? Well, because I have a blended family now. So? I'll come. Well, yeah, I mean, it'd be quite awkward to take, you know, four dogs to your house with two fucking cats there, wouldn't it? Ah, that is. Yeah, but, mate, I'm sure I can do something. If you want to spend Christmas round ours, I would love that so much. I'll put on a fucking spread. Or we can go away. Barbecue it is, then, for Christmas. That'd be lovely. We'll get some sausage and mushrooms. Sorry, I know that's... Well, no, I don't actually...

13:20I don't do barbecues now after Pippa just was really nasty a few weeks ago, to be fair. I thought you're not going to have that birthday barbecue. No, because Pippa couldn't turn up. Kira can't turn up. No one wants to come to my house anymore, apparently. So, yeah, I invited Pippa and Kira to my birthday, and they haven't turned up. But Hannah's coming, which is nice, so that'd be fun. No, when you left the room, she went emphasis on them, potentially. Oh, sweet. Okay, cool. It's good to see that everyone really likes me, and I'm everyone's friend. It's sensitive, Sally. what is the kind of first proper Christmas together going to look like?

13:48Oh, mate. Well, no, we spent Christmas together last year. Yeah, but you went properly together, weren't you? Yeah, we were. Yeah, she came to my mum's, yeah. Jesus Christ. Yeah, she had the full experience fucking early on. Second Christmas together. Second Christmas together, yeah, this time around. I imagine we were sort of semi-similar, to be fair. Have you thought about your present yet? It's a tally. Yeah, I know half of it. You know half of it? I'm not going to... I'm not going to... I know what my present is, darling. She also knows by the looks of it because she's telling you not to tell people.

14:22Yeah, no, I know what my present is, yeah. It's a nice present. I really want to know that. But look, back to summer, because we are still in July. 17 % of Brits think flip-flops should be banned in cities, Pete. Now, we know you're a flip-flop guy. You were saying earlier. Yeah, absolutely love Havian as a back. Yeah, and it was very sweet. Nothing wrong with the old toe thong. Anything that Liv wears, you wear? Well, just, I mean, I have worn flip-flops before this year, but I do like a flip-flop. It's a summer shoe. I don't understand. There is nothing more comfortable than a flip-flop. But riding around London with your toes out is a bit much, isn't it?

15:01Why? It's just a city, you know? It's like, oh. Yeah? I don't know. I agree. You agree with the 17 %? I don't think it should be banned, but if I would see someone walking around in flip-flops, it depends what they're walking around in and what flip-flops they are. It depends on the occasion. If you run hedge funds and you're rocking up in a three-piece suit and a pair of flip-flops, then yes, it should be fucking banned, you absolute psychopath. If you're, I don't know, walking the dog, what's wrong with airing your trotters? I don't understand the problem. It depends where you are in the city.

15:36I'd rather be wearing a flip-flop than Pippa's special ballet pumps. Or I'll tell you what's worse at the minute. I'll tell you what I've seen everywhere. And I'm sure you will back me up on this. Is them fucking five feet fucking flat fucking sock shoes. I love them. Have you got a pair? No, I've really worn one. With the toes, like gloves. Yes. Like foot gloves. Yeah. Who, why? So much grit. So much grit. For what? For what? You're not walking on ice. You never know what you're going to need to do. You never know. Mate, someone comes at you, mate. if you were wearing those shoes, mate, you would be even better.

16:13Trust me. All weather, those bad boys. Ready for anything. I don't think they're all weather. I can't imagine they're great in the snow. But, mate, they are class. They are really, really good. But I don't understand that they've become... Where are they from? Why? They've been around for years, actually, but they've had a resurgence recently. But why? Are they comfortable? Yeah, mad. It's like you're walking barefoot, but you're not. Is it not painful? Oh, it's about being more grounded. Yeah. It's like... Touching the floor, mate. It's amazing. It's about like centering yourself. Yeah, getting like the earth's core, you know.

16:45I just, I don't want to be anywhere. I'll get close enough to the earth's core when I'm six foot under. That'll be as close as I need to get to it. I'm like, I don't need to wear fucking foot gloves for that. Oh, you do. Oh, it's just not for me. You need to touch grass. Go touch grass. I don't need, I don't. Do you like touching grass? I can't say I've purposely ever, you know, I've obviously touched grass before, but I don't think I've ever gone out to touch grass. I think that's... I have. I've specifically gone out to touch grass before. Yeah. In the park. And what do you do? Similar to when you just tug on your penis?

17:17Or what do you do? Just give it a little tug? You see every time. Every time I just have a tiny little tug, you literally like... It's like you're waiting for it. Well, I'm not waiting for it. I'm not saying, oh, come on, tug it, tug it, tug it. But it's quite often when you're looking at someone, they're going... No, but I'm not. I'm just plucking it. No, I'm not plucking. By the way, it's bigger than it needs to be plucked. My point is... What you don't know is he's using tweezers. It's the ball sack that I'm just twisting over because it gets stuck to my thigh. Anyway. My girlfriend's watching this one.

17:50This is not a good one for you to watch. So, I mean, apparently the hybrid sock footwear combines foot freedom with practical protection. Yeah, absolutely. Trust me, I know. So is it something that you'll be featuring? Yeah, 100%. You moved on from the crock? Yeah, because this gives you so much more purchase. You're ready for anything, mate. Pippa, just order a pair for Sam. Seven and a half, please. Is that it? Yeah. All right.

18:18I'm a seven. No, it's because you're all gigantic. Yeah, but you could... Yeah. You're all a BFG. She needs them big feet just to fucking carry that big head. Yeah. Before she'd fall over. Yeah, you round head. Fucking old moonshine over there. Hey, you old bitch. Can we order Sam some tiny, tiny shoes, please? 7.5 is not that small. No, no, no. It's not for a child. No, no. 7.5 is not that small, is it? I think that's below average for a man. No, it's not. No, I think 7.5 average. Go on, average it up. Give us. And by the way, when we're talking 7.5, we're not talking inches. We're talking foot size.

18:53No, I'm actually more of an 8 than 7.5. Average foot size for adult men is a UK size 9 to 10. Yeah. UK size 9 to 10 is average. Yeah. For a man, yeah. Average? I don't know about that. 7.5 is nice. Is it? Yeah. I mean, I haven't got big feet either, so 8.5. Double below average. Yeah, but I'm like probably an 8. She said 7. Saying that then, I'm probably a 9 to 10. I'm more of an 8. About average. I think sometimes, depending on the make, I'm sort of an 11, 12. No, but I genuinely am. I would say I'm actually closer to an eight. It's just that I like smaller shoes. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Well, I mean, yeah, I'm closer to a 12 than I am a sort of a three.

19:38I'm being serious though. No, no. It was sort of rounding it up. Seven and a half's great though. It's like little and cheeky, you know? Yeah. Yeah, there's something quite mad about being sort of a crazy cheeky guy. Yeah, seven and a half. You are just a little cheeky chappy, isn't you? Yeah, I've got like average hands. No, they're small hands. They're small hands. Old toots over there. said that you've got small hands. Do I? Oh, no. Yeah. There's no correlation between that penis size. I just want to let everyone know that now. No. You know how people go, oh, small feet? It's like, no, not really.

20:11No, because if it was, then you were sort of just below average and your penis is tiny. So... I've got like a below average penis size. No, but I think I remember you saying, and actually it's something that you should put in the notes for next week. He's a grower, not a shower, as far as I remember. So if we could just clarify for next week, Pippa, if you could just whack that in there. I'll be sat in the shower sometimes. I make Tally come in and watch me have a shower. I don't make it. I don't force her to come in and watch me. But I'll sometimes be like, Tally? Go get changed, you look awful.

20:43Come in here and watch me shower. I'll sometimes be like, I'll sometimes call her from the shower and be like, do you want to come in? Have you got a shower phone? No, I just bring my phone into the shower. Sorry, do you live in the Batcave? What do you mean? no I've just got I've just I've been in the phone I've watched YouTube sometimes in the shower and I sit on the seat and watch YouTube and I'll relatable prints and I'll and I sometimes I'll give Tali a call and I'll be like Tali come in do you want to come and just have a chat so you come in we'll sit and we'll talk to each other but when you're sat obviously it's quite like it's not like the best angle so I'll like cross my legs

21:25my PR's told me recently that i need to stop doing this why is she there as well no because that is fucking weird she's like charlotte sat there sam you've really got to stop doing this um but anyway a couple of things that we got for this week um we just sat there with his fucking cock and bollocks out whilst tallying fucking pr watching shower his nutsack she's like she's like she's a pr for me and be at this podcast she's like sam like we're doing presenting gigs and stuff and then like they're looking at your background and they're watching the pod and like you're just talking about how small your cock is.

21:55It's not by the way.

22:02Danny, tell him. So talking of presenting jobs, our very own tiny penis. No, honestly, we can't make this a thing. No, we're just, no. No. No. Seven and a half is a normal size. For your feet. You're below average as well. Yeah, yeah, yeah, but still above you. I love that. Yeah, it's a bit of a sound. Still above you. No, on a serious note, you're talking about PR, talking about, you know, we've got these presenting jobs and whatnot. Sam and I actually saw Joel Domit last week, who's recently retired and hung up his boots from the jungle, unpacked. So you may ask, who will be taking over? and the answer is

22:53me I thought you were going to say Sam the answer is me so Sam is now the host not a panellist a host of the Jungle Celebrity Unpacked the Jungle Celebrity Unpacked I'm a celebrity get me out of here Unpacked we call it the Jungle and then I get confused the Jungle Celebrity Unpacked I'm a celebrity, get me out of here, unpacked. I'm a celebrity, get me out of here, unpacked. This has been the worst. It's like the worst, like, oh, we've got given this. Yeah. So you're going to be hosting your very own ITV show. Nervous. Talk to me about it. Are you going to be in Australia? I'm going to be in Australia, yes.

23:36Mate, you're right in everything you just said. I'm going to actually - Apart from the title. Yeah. I've never actually hosted Unpacked before like this. Like, I've always been like a panellist, right? So like two years ago, it was kind of promoted. It's like we were all hosting it, but it was more so like Joel was hosting and me and Kemi were like sort of like the always going to be there, but we were sort of like giving our opinions and stuff. Kind of like what After Sun, I used to on After Sun. But this, we're actually, me and Kemi are hosting the actual show. So it's hello and welcome to I'm Celebrity Unpacked.

24:12I'm Sam Thompson. I'm Kemi Rogers. Like what an amazing episode we've just had today. like that are you nervous no weirdly i'm not i'm not because nothing can be harder than the fucking live show after the south africa thing that's how i look at it like that was almost a breeze to be fair i think i'm actually quite good at that stuff so i hopefully it's the one thing my adhd brain is good at is that i can listen to people in my ear whilst talking because i've got like almost two sides of a brain and it's the only thing it helps me with but i'm yeah i'm excited for it. So you're going to be in Australia for how long?

24:45About three and a half weeks, nearly a month. Three and a half weeks, nearly a month. Yeah. This will be the third time you've been in Australia for a month. Yeah. Are you planning on is Tally going to pop out? Yeah, I'm going to fly Tally out. They don't actually know this yet, but yeah. Okay, well, I mean, that would be lovely, because it will give Dec and his wife a break. I'm going to bring her along. Yes, well, yeah, but you won't be third week then. So how excited are you? What are you most nervous about what could possibly go wrong oh man i can't wait i i'm so excited you know this is the show i remember from years ago years and years and years ago i went on even you never done the after show have you no yeah it's i can't how can i do i don't watch the shows it's really difficult for me so what do you think of i don't know i did the after show years ago when fleur east was doing it and so that was like like years and years and years ago and um and i remember going to do it and joel was hosting it then actually and like i was like 25 and i remember watching it and being like this is the coolest thing coolest job like he's i he's got the job i would love sorry he's got the kind of job i would i would just absolutely die for and so it's funny i i feel like nowadays like you know we did the o2 we've done some amazing things like i sometimes have to stop and be like that's the show i've always wanted to host and i'm actually going to be doing it so talking of staying relevant which is obviously now this I mean, this is the pinnacle.

26:13To me, this is huge. Where do you go from here? I mean, are you going to be shadowing the big dogs in the hope? Is that the next step? Is it the main show? No, mate, dude, that show will die with Anna Deck. No one can do, they're not dying. But as in like, no one can take that show. Like that's a poison chalice for anyone who's going to, if they wanted to give us a go, obviously me and you, I'd give it a go, but it's a poison chalice. But that, it's not even like unpacked, you know it's it's it's an amazing show but it's it's you know it's it's still a sideshow of something but it's just something for me personally like i have it's like grassroots presenting and so that is like the last one where you can show people what you can do and so yeah i'm fucking excited i'm really super nervous obviously man like i think there's gonna be a lot of eyeballs like on it me and kemi have never done that before joel's been doing it for so long um you know him not being there steering the ship is obviously gonna be huge but yeah like doing something like this to me is like it's shangri-la i can't wait and i just hope i'm good enough you will be absolutely fine we have absolutely no doubts interesting sounding cast this year they've been mentioning a couple of people have they well they say well every year it's the same sort of um uh people that are getting fucking rolled about but who is your dream um person to be in there whilst you are your girlfriend unpacked she's not doing it i would love no and this is by the way if pete says you're not doing it i'll take his word for that i have no idea but i would die for my first hosting role pete's girlfriend in the jungle who i really like and then pete out there supporting his girlfriend whilst talking to me like it would be just the best trifecta ever that would be like my dream come true i mean i know it won't happen but that I would just, in my head, that, so she'd obviously, I would love to see the jungle for all, and I just think she'd be brilliant in any way, to be honest with you.

28:09So she's your dream? Yeah. Okay. So how are you going to manage doing that with the other big show? I think we can all agree now I'm not doing Strictly. Wow. I think we can all sit there and confidently say, I'm not doing Strictly Come Dancing. I think the full line has been announced. Well, no, no, no, no, no. just, you know, you never know, we'll have a go. That's all I'm saying. I saw you comment on some Strictly thing recently. It was the new dancers. Yes. The new dancers. Still just still part of the fam. You never comment on anything. And then I was like, I looked at the, there was like a, he's the new dancers.

28:46And then underneath was like, Pete was like the two hand emoji. Yes, guys, welcome to the team. But do you know what? Because everyone else did. And I felt really bad because it kept coming on the algorithm. And you know when everyone like, from like years and fucking all previous. Oh, welcome, welcome. And I thought, God, I look a bit of a cunt here if I don't fucking do something, don't I? But also, listen, big year for Strictly, isn't it? You know what I mean? Five new dancers, three new presenters. Big year for fucking Jungle. Fucking two brand new presenters. Everything is changing. It's the passing of the guard is happening, guys.

29:19The passing, and he may, I mean, I'm too late for it. He may have just got in there at the passing of the guard before they gave it to a TikToker. it's worked out you've just just got in there this could be it at 34 years old he's finally got the grassroots presenting role so this is it i mean how um how fucking exciting oh man i'm over the moon i'm so fucking excited this is what the third year in four that you've been in australia during november yeah it is that right yeah or was it every year for no i didn't go oh no i did go last year as a guest yeah so the third year in four is basically an aussie yeah crazy man it's yeah i love it you think you'll go back to your surf style i think so yeah well now i'm gonna be living out there a little bit like i'm actually just gonna have to really embrace it yeah i mean what i think is really interesting for us all to know is obviously you're going to be hosting your first show um is what you're going to be wearing i'm gonna have to get a stylist don't i oh my god He's going to have an actual stylist for this.

30:21Yeah. Because, you know, as a panellist, it's great and you're there, but you're not the host. Yeah. Are you going to go, is there something? Is there going to be like a foundation? No, do you know what? I'm just going to let, I don't know. Hair, you know, is there a kind of plan? Just before the hair tranny. So it will be, you know, what sort of... Anything that I can just muster together at that point, to be fair. What are we? Are you going to watch it? Even the first episode, you have to obviously watch all of them, but you've got to watch the first one. If you want to do a little story watching it, that'd be nice.

30:51Yep. Absolutely. I will be doing that. But no, it's very exciting.

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31:46Where will you be staying? They put us up in this really lovely complex, actually, to be fair. So yeah, that's where I'm going to be staying. So you're actually going to be staying with Ant and Dick? No, they stay in their own apartments. Still a little bit of segregation. We're not quite there. And also, just quickly on Strictly, actually, I think, because we normally, you know, we like our favourite Love Islanders and stuff. I feel like this year, Pete, our favourite, or my favourite, I think you might agree, we're rooting for Will Best. Oh, we love Will Best. Yeah, I think we're rooting, on this podcast, Pippa fancies Will Best.

32:20Look, I think we're, we're rooting for Mr. Will Best, loveliest guy on TV. Nicest guy on TV. And I, he's a fucking fit guy as well. I think he's going to be fucking good. I think he's going to get to the final. I think this is going to be, because Will is one of the best presenters I've ever seen, by the way, one of the most amazing interviewers as well and I think this is going to be like a huge moment for Will so Will if you're watching staying relevant behind you we'd love to get him on the pod actually that'd be fun and yeah I think he's one for us yeah we love Will Best look you know we found out a lot about you there we found out that this is your kind of dream show and you know it leads us on to a really topical thing on TikTok apparently yeah yeah I think I'll take over this one Peter yes because I've got another fucking clue this is a a TikTok sensation that's going on right now that Pippa's only just told me about.

33:10It's things you might not know about us. So it's when two duos. No, that's not right. It's when a duo, it's when two dudes or girls, actually two guys, two girls, just people, two people will sit in front of a camera and they will explain things that you might not know about the two of them. So examples. First time we hang out, the two of us. Go on. First time we hung out, the two of us. Well, I actually remember this. We didn't really hang out. It was when you shaved me. But when we actually hung out. Yeah, yeah. So we're not talking celebs go dating. We're talking out of the first time we hung out.

33:45Hang out. When did we hang out? I remember it very clearly. Do you? Yes. I don't. I don't. When did we hang out? We hung out in a club. Yes, we did. Yes, we did. Have a couple of tequila shots in the club. In rain. In rain nightclub. In rain nightclub. You didn't know who I was. We didn't really hang out at all. No, no, no. we'd planned to be there oh yeah we planned to be there in Rain Nightclub do you remember and I had that fucking girl with me and I was upstairs and I was sitting on the sofa and you kept coming over you kept coming over fucking aggravating and then you kept running downstairs for some reason because you know they used to have that thing on the balcony you kept running downstairs and then bringing up random new people to meet me yeah yeah and I was just like what the fuck yeah yeah what the fuck He literally would run down the stairs and then bring up this person and go, this is Bob.

34:37And I'd be like, who the fuck is this? And I'm trying to talk to this girl. And he'd be like, I don't know, I just met him. I'd be like, what the fuck are you doing? Do you remember that? Yeah, I do. Mate, quite cool for me. It was fucking Pee Wicks. No, we'd arranged to be there. No, I know, but I was like your friend at that point. So I was like, that's kind of cool. So yeah, I don't know exactly what you were doing. What were you doing? Because you were literally just running down and grabbing people. Just having a time in my fucking life, mate. It was up and down them stairs like a fucking rat up a drainpipe.

35:03Best holiday together. Oh. Best holiday together. That's a tough one. Tenerife. That was celebs go dating? No, we went to Tenerife after that. Did we?

35:22When did we go to Tenerife? We went to Tenerife. So we did Tenerife for... I don't think you were with me in Tenerife for celebs go dating. That wasn't one of the ones. No, that wasn't one of the ones you did. Oh, it was. Yeah. When Megan was there. Yeah. Oh, so you did that one. But we went to Tenerife after. Like, literally about two years after for a job. But it was actually a sick holiday. Because we had that fucking... We went to Cyan Park. Sam. That was actually sick, though, that one. What park? Cyan Park. The huge fucking water park. Mate, I can't remember it.

36:02best holiday doesn't even remember so my best holiday with sam he doesn't even know well that's it well that just about fucking sums it up doesn't it that's terrifying i can't even remember at all we went fucking sign but do you not remember this no right so it was just after all the fucking pig cow fucking bullshit we had a job out in sign but we're only there for like fucking three days but we had an afternoon we went to sign park because outside of sign park and the only reason i remember this is because you kept making me do that fucking stupid TikTok fucking dance. You know, like, fucking that thing outside the thing.

36:35And there were just kids rolling around, like, constantly coming fucking past. And I kept going, this is fucking weird because all the kids were looking at us and all their fucking... I was like, we can't just be dancing outside a water park like a couple of idiots. I can't remember. And you, because I wouldn't take my top off. Do you not remember this? Because I had tits. Oh my God! Yes. And then you were... No, Pete, that was... No, no, no. Because we weren't doing TikTok during Celebrity Go Dating because it wasn't even a fucking thing. this was after this was about two years after Sam we were literally outside and you were like take your fucking time and I was like no I'm not doing it because we're still outside a fucking walk park with a lot of kids it was weird worrying how little I remember that yeah and then another we've had some other like good Marbella obviously yeah can I tell you what mine was skiing snowboarding snow bombing snow bombing was cool did we go skiing as well yeah we went no we went snowboarding oh no the skiing wasn't yeah alright so yours snow bombing was fun That was good.

37:29We went down on that. Snow bombing was fun. No, we had a fucking great time. No, but you can't even remember the fucking Cyan Park. And it's etched in my brain. I don't remember it at all. Fucking dance. What job were we there for? I can't remember. It was like... Was it just me and you? No, there was two other people there. And I can't remember the fucking name of them. They were like Love Island people. Mate, I don't remember. I can't remember who the fuck it was. LA was fun LA was alright LA was great when me and Pete went to LA we had a fucking good time there yeah LA was fun that was actually that was sick that night out that we had I mean we spoke about on this pod years ago but yeah that night out do you remember the walk the next day you didn't come on oh yeah yeah yeah because I was super hungover you too hungover to come on the fucking walk up to the Hollywood sign yeah which was just a fucking and this is how nice I am so I brought him back a Hollywood key ring do you remember that no yeah it's fucking just bang out of order I swear he's making some of this shit up.

38:31I don't remember going to Tenerife for Pete. And I certainly don't remember a Hollywood key ring. What about your first meal together? Our first meal together. Oh, fucking hell, Pete. These are quite like legit things that we've known each other for years. Like, yeah, this just, oh, he's my best friend. He remembers nothing we've ever done together. Yeah, but our first meal, I do not, I can't, I won't say what we were talking about. So me and Pete went, it was one of our sort of like early meals. We went to Sexy Fish together. And Pete told me something about his family that I will never forget.

39:01I do remember. I will never forget that lunch in Sexy Fish. So I'd say that. That was quite early doors, wasn't it, that lunch? Don't know. I can't remember. Yeah, probably. Yeah, that must have been fairly early doors, I would say. But I can't believe you don't remember any of that fucking, any of that stuff. That's really worried me. What do you think your nichest habit is? My nichest habit? My nichest habit. What's my nichest habit? What's mine? Not gaming. Your nichest habit.

39:37What do you like to do that people wouldn't expect that you like to do? You don't really have any that I know of, to be honest with you. You put your under-eye things every morning, your little under-eye bags on. So this trend is when you do the alternate facts about things that have happened and, you know, whatever else. none of what I said happened you never went up and down you're a fucking bastard I was trying to get you on the holiday and I was close so close none of that happened but you didn't go downstairs and keep getting people either we bumped into each other in rain he didn't arrange to me I wasn't with a bird you didn't go down and bring up Bob I'm so fucking happy about that I generally thought I had early onset do you remember going down and getting random people yeah Oh my God.

40:25I was so close to getting you on that holiday. Oh, I can't tell you. Because I've been really worried recently about my memory. Fucking great. Mate, that's come at the worst time. I was literally in my head going, you need to go and see Dr. Phil. As in, I've got a doctor called Phil. Is that the bloke from Simpsons? No, no, no. I have a doctor called Phil. This is why you're always ill. You keep seeing a cartoon. No, mate. I was like, I need to go back and see my guy. This is bad. And then I was like having semi flashbacks. I was like, did we? Maybe we did. The holiday, you went, oh yeah. Because we did go to a water park.

41:00But when we did, um, Slaves Go Dating. We didn't. We did. We didn't go to a water park. I swear to God, in Slaves Go Dating either. I swear to God. We've never been to a water park. Dude, I honestly, and you said it was so much conviction just said, I was like, oh my God. Well, I just thought I'd test the waters with the up-down one. That never happened. None of that ever happened. Yeah, but you know what? It's because I, me and you have been to quite a few rain nights before. That was an easy one. and I thought I'd try and get you with a whole holiday you'd forgotten. I was so fucking close. So close.

41:29That panicked the shit out of me. I'd say the niche thing I do, probably Tali just said that. Sorry, we're back to the niches bit. I'm really gaming at the moment. I don't think that's niche. Everyone knows that you're a loser. Well, Tali likes it actually. But yeah, I'm enjoying my history of gaming at the moment a lot to be fair. So that's probably my, I don't know what your niches have. I know this was all a ruse, but like your niches have it because you do have like some really, like your ice cream's a pretty fucking niche. But like I'm trying to think of something that only I know. The 5am baths are weird.

42:01Yes. Yeah, yeah, yeah. That's a good point. I shower, have a bath and then shower again. So I, every morning. So I can't start a day without shower, bath, shower. What does Liv think about your early baths? Because we both get up very early. Oh, so you have a bath when she goes to the gym. Well, no, I walk with the dogs generally. but if we're not together, she'll call me and I'm in the bath and she's like, this fucking, who baths at that time? I used to call you. This is when Pete used to pick up to my phone. You never pick up. I know you're busy. Well, it certainly went at fucking 5am. I used to call Pete all the time and he would always pick up in the bath.

42:38Do you remember that? You would always be in the bath having a soak. My kind of downtime is in the bath. It's when I like to sort of, other than that, I'm always fucking doing things. So it's nice sometimes just to be in the bath. Yeah. just inside like and then the occasional splosh and the nice I like to bath in the dark that's nice you've lost me there at five in the morning yeah yeah yeah that's why summer baths are not great because it's quite bright but winter there's nothing better in the pitch black just being in the pitch black in the bath I now feel like I can remember Tenerife it didn't it never happened I know I now feel like I can I feel like we did do that I think I could have got him there.

43:19I swear we did do a dance near some kids. No. And like, that sounded weird. No. I swear we did a dance near some children. No, I tied it in to Colorado and the dog shit, which was near the school. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Clever. Do you know what I mean? And I nearly caught him. Were you impressed with that? I was super impressed. We had a little briefing outside. Yeah, no, Colorado was fucking great. You need to make him believe something that didn't happen. You didn't do it? And I went, I don't think he'll go along with it. Her one was, do you remember the time he got arrested? I went, he'll remember that.

43:45Fucking hell, Pippa. Jesus Christ. Do you know what I mean? She went, like, telling him that night that you got arrested. I went, he'll know that. He'd tell everyone if we got arrested together. It'd be like a fucking badge of honour. What a time. What a time. We've been through a lot, me and Pete, you know. We've actually done a lot. Yeah. I don't know if we've achieved a lot. We've done a lot. Well, listen, you hosting one of the biggest shows on TV, I would say, is achieving a lot. It's the sideshow of the biggest show on TV. This is just, you should have left it there, buddy. You should have left it there.

44:14So let's do a round of applause and a goodbye. round of applause for Samuel Thompson host of I'm a Celeb Get Me Out of the Unpacked Jungle Celebrity Unpacked because we call it the jungle don't we would you ever do the jungle no one fucking calls it would you ever do I'm a Celebrity Get Me Out of Here everyone goes would you do the jungle so let's stick to Jungle Unpacked that's what they should call it thank you so much everyone it's been a wonderful day have a great time and have a wonderful journey in nicely done and also you know I think we should just point out a little bit of context if you do have small feet and small hands we're not necessarily saying that yeah you know you're not below average either there's no fucking average don't worry about it is all we're saying it's fine there's lots of successful people with small hands small feet and small penises that you know it hasn't affected them none of them are standing in this room no one of them's sitting though ta-da none of them are in this room have a lovely day I think that went quite well This has been a Staying Relevant production.

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