196: Will Best SPILLS the Strictly Tea

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2:13welcome to staying relevant the podcast hosted by two best friends myself sam thompson and peter james jonathan joseph wicks who is again sadly not here however we haven't had a however in a while however i think you're really really gonna love what we have in store for you before i introduce our very very special guest remember as well as listening to this podcast you can watch us now too full video is released on youtube every friday after the audio is out every monday before we get started make sure to hit follow wherever you're listening and that will mean you'll be the first to know of each new episode it comes out every monday wednesday thursday and sunday and here we go you absolutely loved the last time this man was on the podcast in fact it's one of our highest rated podcasts.

3:06Whoa. One of our best ever social assets that we've ever put out actually involved this man. He is more relevant now than I think he's ever been. And what an absolute honour it is for him to carve out some time in his day to not just guest, but co-host today's podcast. What? Please welcome back. Pick up your iPad and let's get cracking. It's Will Best. Thanks guys. Thanks Sam. What an absolute treat. It's an honour to have you here. It's lovely. Wow. A social asset. Is that me? So we put, what was the asset that we put out? I know what it was. It was the David's Day story. It was the David's Day story.

3:51I still get like every day that like pops back up in my notifications. There's been more likes and comments. Listen, it's nothing to do with me. It was just a good story. Yeah, I had nothing to do with David Dye. Um, it's, uh, no, seriously. Um, no, it was just a good, good story, but that's the power of big brother, which I'm sure we'll be, uh, talking about. A hundred percent, mate. There's so much to get cracking on. Um, so I missed the, so he's, he's got that many middle names. Uh, no, I've made quite a few of them. Right. Okay. He's actually, um, Peter James Wicks. Right. But I just like adding a few things.

4:24I'll say I got Peter, James, Jonathan, Joseph, Jeremiah, Jezariah sometimes. Jezariah? Yeah. cheeky we call him jezeriah yeah he's being a little bit nippy sometimes be a little bit bitey you go hey jezeriah right down over there but i've given quite a few but make your pod episodes as well in and of itself is one of our highest really listen to podcast i think because of the clip people would be like i want to dig into i want the long form version of that clip and did you yeah because i'm really bad at listening uh or watching back things that i've done like i listen to you guys speaking to other people, but I find it weird.

5:01That clip, did you keep it? Because there was actually slightly more to that story. And I know that there was some debate about whether because it did look as though we were laughing at a dead person, which we weren't in the context. No. But was there even more to the story in the pod? So we had to cut some bits out. That's become like the fishing trip, that whole thing because we reference it in episodes on his day, but we don't ever say what it is. Okay. Yes. Okay. So now this is like a new hype for this story that nobody knows. Okay. Right. It was a, it was an easy mistake to make. The thing was, you made the mistake several times.

5:42There was like a theme throughout the show that everyone you brought up was dead. And you didn't know. And that's, yeah. But you know what's wild? What's crazy is in my Big Brother episode, they have just dropped like flies. It's actually, I'm a bit worried. It's a Thompson curse. I'm worried there's a curse on this bad boy. I'm sort of calling up Jem Lucy. How are you, girl? You good? Jordan Weekend, are you still with us? Oh, my fuck. Oh, wow. No, they're going strong, actually. Yeah, they are. Yeah, they are. But don't get, yeah. That's wild. um do you suggest you don't actually listen to yourself back no you said that with fear i know yeah i get anxiety just think about it no i don't um i don't i just find because who likes listening to the sound of their own voice i hear you and you get to give you the ick a little bit it gives me the ick and then watching myself back is worse because that's the sound of your own voice and the look of your own face and no one wants to be digging into either of those things the double trouble the double trouble um and then you start second guessing like why did i say that or why didn't I say that?

6:52Do you know what I mean? Can I ask you a question about radio? Because I get this all the time. Have you ever listened to yourself on radio before? Mate, we have to do what's called snoops. What's that? Which is where they play back like bits of the show and your producers will critique them. Oh no, that's my worst nightmare. Yeah. And on hits radio, they're taking that so seriously at the moment. They have employed, uh, an incredibly high powered international radio consultant from Australia to, to listen back to our show and basically say, that was shit. No way. Yes. Have you ever heard that before?

7:23Coming out of his mouth? Yes, he absolutely hates it. Sometimes he's like, that was shit. He's like, Will, the link ended after James made that joke. Why the fuck did you carry on talking? Oh, no. What do you say? I say, I'm so sorry, Phil. I'll never speak again. It's a nightmare. Mate, so when you do your listen back, I've heard myself before, I breathe heavy into that mic. You can hear every breath. And I'm like, how is anybody, listening to me i've not i've listened to you and i've not noticed that oh i hear the breathing on every gasp that i make i'm like oh no it's so bad do you have like sing specific words that you do too much oh yeah oh 100 i i mean look this is just like so standard for like a uh you know i'm actually a zillennial by the way i'm not just a millennial i'm a zillennial oh what i'm on the cusp of millennial no yeah pick a side no i'm not i'm on the fence yeah pick a side no because i'm I'm not a full-blown millennial.

8:19I'm a zillennial. Do you really want to be aligning yourself with the Gen Z? Mate, do you know what? I'm happy to be on both sides of the line. The best of both. Yeah, I'm the best of both. Sure, I've got boundaries, but I'm also a chaotic mess. Do you know what I mean? Yeah. Look, yeah, I do do therapy, but I drink a lot. Mate, we do, and I smoke. You know, we're fine. No, I don't. No, I don't. I keep getting people comment. Every time we do a video, I'm like, I didn't know Sam smoked. Not all the time. You smoke occasionally. Does your mum know that you smoke? She hates it. But she knows? She says that since you met Pete Wicks, you've started smoking.

8:55Wow. I'm like, that's like when someone says don't hang out with someone at school. Yeah. They're a bad influence on you. He kind of looks cool. He looks cool. I don't. I once had a cigarette outside here with Pete. Because I only ever smoke when I'm with Pete. He has this. That's the edge. That's aura. When you can make someone willingly take a toxin into your mind that doesn't smoke, you're killing it. And Joe Marla walks out of the building and goes, what the fuck are you doing smoking? I went, I don't really know. He goes, you look like such an idiot. The way you're holding that cigarette.

9:34Do you do the thing where you hold the cigarette straight up and then you cup it under your chin? Right? Honestly, it's like that. Whereas Pete, between middle finger and thumb, side of the mouth. What is that? He actually eats it. Yeah, yeah. He eats it. He puts it out on his tongue. I want a bit more of that. Actually, you know, lovely. You'll have a bit of that. Yeah, it's, I don't even know how we got onto it. How do we get, my interviewing skills will. No, this is good, actually. You're a lot to be desired. I've actually got a few more questions for you. I'm still listening to this whole middle name thing.

10:10Have you got what? Will is co-hosting this podcast. Actually, a little bit of back and forth is much welcome. Okay, fine. So what are your middle names? Sam Robert DeCoursey Thompson. Of course it's fucking DeCoursey. Yeah, it's a double-powered surname. Of course it is DeCoursey. I've never really delved into that before. That's the Zillennial in you. Do you know what I mean? Like Robert, Millennial, DeCoursey. DeCoursey. Gen Z. Thinks he's cool. He's a complete ****. Do you reckon you could guess my middle name? I've got two. Do you reckon you could guess? Thomas. For some reason, I'm offended by that.

10:47Why? Why would you be offended by that? No. You'll never get it. I would say you could have a million guesses. Rhyme it with something. Okay. I guess it sort of rhymes with like... DeLorean? William. It's William, not Will, right? Yes, full name William. Florian. No. William Florian. It's too... I-I-I. It's four syllables. William. I-I-I. It's four syllables. It starts with a K-T. William. It starts with a T. I mean, this is a stupid game because you'll never get it. It's Trevorian. I was never going to fucking get that there. Where are you from? It's like a Hungarian. No, it's Cornish. Is it?

11:31So it's spelt Trevor Ian just squished together. Trevor and Ian. Yeah. That is the most, do you know what that is? We are so basic that we're going to put two standard names together. Trevor and Ian. Yeah, my mum and dad would just fight tooth and nail. I want it to be Trevor. I want it to be Ian. Let's go with Trevor. No, it's Cornish. It's a Cornish name. Are you so, do you hail from Cornish? I, I, I, I, do you hail? Hear ye, hear ye. No, I, Well, I do my family. My dad's mum, I think, was Cornish. And my mum's dad was Cornish. So I'm like a quarter or even a half. Does that make me two quarters makes a half?

12:18This is exciting chat, isn't it? Do you know what the funny thing is? The funny thing actually is. Like, I'm dying. Mate, I don't think you realize how funny you are without, like, meaning to be. You're absolutely brilliant. That sounds like an insult. No. God, I'm doing an Ian Sterling. Fuck me. I've done it again. Well, what happened with Ian Sterling? Oh, Ian Sterling. I basically just shat on every... he came in to promo two TV shows that he's doing. Oh, and did he say that they were shit? No, no, no. But before he'd like. I think that would have been better if you just said the show's not good.

12:46Ian came on to promote two TV shows and Sam like, obviously this wasn't scripted. Sat down and he was like, oh Ian, how are you? Like obviously I do loads of like digital stuff and you do loads of TV, but like TV's obviously dying, isn't it? Like TV's on its knees. And Ian was just like, brilliant. I mean, but hey, listen, you've sussed out the media landscape. smart guy you're a smart guy thank you very much i really appreciate it and let's talk about big brother and um we are if you don't mind obviously we've got to start somewhere strictly's got to be at the top of that list you're i think you're leaving here and probably going to do some more strictly stuff more strictly stuff as that as the sort of the the the roll-on period of that now really hit home is it starting so i've basically done i've done three days of Strictly stuff thus far.

13:37When's this going out? Monday. Monday. Okay, yeah. So, oh, by Monday, I will have done a fourth thing. But I think it's secret and I can't say. Oh, do you find out your partner? I won't have found out my partner. Still no. But I will have started the process of finding out my partner. Like where you do like the dances together to see who you get on. I've already done that. I've done the chemistry test. How was the chem test? The chem test. The chem test. It was a chem test, but it. Yeah. I, it was good. It was really good. So that was like the first thing that we did. It was real first day at school vibes, like absolute terror.

14:12Were you with the other dancers? I was with the other celebrities. Yeah. Other celebs, all the pros. And it was great. Meet and greet, you know, getting introduced to everyone. Some people had done some like fittings the day before. So most of them had actually met briefly. So I was like the new guy. Oh no. I was the new guy amongst new guys. So I was the last one in and I was brought in and introduced to everyone. And everyone was lovely. Everyone was lovely. Like all the celebs are so nice. Like a real mixed bunch of people. Have you met any of them? Do you know who's on the list? So we've got, we've got, I'm not going to list everyone.

14:48How long is the podcast? Chris Appleton. Chris Appleton. He is fucking brilliant. Is he? You would love him, mate. Like he is, he's got a really good quirky sense of humor. Yeah. Do you know what I mean? I know exactly what you mean. Like I've really enjoyed, like, you know, he'll take the piss out of me, which is what I like. You know, I'm a sub. Be my dom.

15:10Would I be a sub, do you think? I think the trouble is you and I both are usually the people that other people are taking the piss out of. Yeah, we're people pleasers. Yeah, we're people pleasers. And one of the reasons why your dynamic with Pete is so good is because Pete just like, obviously, you know. Dom. He alphaes you. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Basically fucks me up the ass. Yeah, yeah, yeah, exactly. That's a foreign speaking. Exactly, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. um yeah yeah and there'll be none of that from me um um uh but um who's your best friend there then so far great three days yeah um it's like school isn't it i can't i can't i think i i don't know like um i it's sort of i sort of feel like i can't really answer that because um because i i feel like then it would be mean to the other people i'll tell you who i've said no no okay Okay, I'll tell you who, purely by chance, like the way it's worked out, like the things we've been doing, I've probably spoken the most so far to Chris, to...

16:14Chris, you're his favourite. No, no, no, no, no. Don't put words in my mouth. To him, to Jamie Winston, who is great. She is fucking a lot of fun and really funny and just energy and a legend. I knew Danny Dyer a bit beforehand. She is like the loveliest person in the world. And she is my route to the big man. She knows that. I'm using her to get close to her father. And that's fine. A vessel. Yeah, yeah. Who else have we got? Oh, I spent a lot of time. So I can't give anything away as to why. But I spent an extra amount of time on a little dancing day that we did, like a recording day. I spent a lot of time with John Nellis, YouTuber.

17:01legend tabby stoker oh yeah olympian and now and gladiator she's gonna be one of the gladiators um and absolute legend and like somebody that i know you will love and you'll be delighted to hear that he is wonderful in every way sean wright phillips is he lovely oh mate i know this so i did soccer with him oh my god he's brilliant mate he's the nicest dude he is so nice he is so funny yeah yeah he's an absolute legend have you met Yvita yet? I've met Yvita she's amazing yeah she's great I love Yvita we obviously have a good affiliation with Yvita because obviously Pete did it no Yvita's great now I feel bad for anyone I haven't mentioned basically they're all lovely they're all absolutely wonderful and we adore all of them because obviously we've met most of them by Pete obviously because the thing is one thing I have learned about Strictly is that everything you say about Strictly gets clipped up really and put out as a headline oh wow because people The press surrounding it is pretty intense.

17:58I've never experienced anything. Normally I can just say whatever I want. Literally no one cares. But I have to be quite on the ball when it comes to Strictly. Like I was telling a story on the radio, which immediately somehow got like picked up, that when we did our chemistry test day and you're doing your dances with the pros, two of the pros separately and without conferring with each other said to me, basically, I have a problem when I dance, right? With my face. oh yeah i'm a face dancer i mean even just thinking about dancing yeah ah do you know who else does that jamie lang does he we did that if you go back and watch he's a face dancer mouth open it's just oh oh oh it's the moon here we go but then tango because i've got to be serious yeah i can't overdo it yeah yeah and two of them um alexis and diane both said uh wow um looking at your face it's like dancing with jim carrey in the mask i don't know if that is a good thing and my um fiance is she is genuinely really worried really about the face like i went home to practice so we had to do you know you you do a dance in the in the launch show yeah and i went i was practicing at home it was like a video and i was like what do you think of this?

19:16And she was like, well, I think your face is fucking insane. Like, please tell me you're not going to do that. I was like, what face? What are you talking about? And it's my concentration face. I remember, watch Jamie do it because you're literally, his mouth is always open. And it's always permanently open. It's really bad. And not to make you nervous, the amount of hate he got online. Really? He called me up once. He goes, he goes, fucking hell, mate. I can't close my fucking mouth. are you serious people you know oh no he got to the final yeah but Sam you know what everyone's been telling me when I've been saying they're like oh people love that people love that it's gonna be great people will love that and now you're saying no Jamie got to the final mate so whatever and actually not to keep even more pressure on you mate but actually you are a staying relevant winner as you sip your tea sorry what do you mean what you think what have you done a poll We're not a sweet state because we're all, we're all, we're actually all in agreement that you're our winner.

20:20No, please. Yeah, I'm sorry. I know that sucks. No, no, no. I apologize. We need to nip this in the bud. No, no, no. You're our winner. Genuinely, genuinely. I'm not just saying this, right? Like, like people are being, you know, friends and family are being very lovely and they're being like, you're going to be amazing at dancing. I'm like, what are you basing that on? When have you ever seen me? It's the face. No, I think, but I think the problem is, I think it's because I'm like relatively, you know, youthful acting, I guess, for a middle-aged man and relatively like, you know, I guess I'm relatively fit.

20:57I like, you know, do you know what I mean? So I think people are just like, you'll be good, right? So when I then inevitably am not, it's going to be much worse. No, it won't. Can't be worse than Pete, mate. You'll be like, you'll be fine. He got to near the final. You'll be absolutely fine. Yeah, but Pete's got a big following. He's got millions of people. I don't think that matters. But the podcast behind him. People love, you've got our podcast behind you, mate. You're our winner. It's going to be really funny when I, because I cannot. Are you nervous? I'm so, so nervous. I cannot even begin.

21:30But you've done a lot of live telly. This is totally different. Yeah, when that first dance, like where no one gets kicked out, is that do you think the most nervous you've ever been in your life well you are clutching your heart right now so i i i it's remembering the moves so when we did this so we we did this you know the launch show dance right it's not a spoiler like obviously yeah people know that's pre-recorded right um and if they don't um uh i like i was one of if not the worst at room like getting it right every time remembering it it's interesting to me because you remember lines really well it's there's something about it's it's it's overwhelming there's a sensory overload and that those dance like group dances i'm i'm watching what other people are doing there's flashing lights there's camera i'm like i get like i i you're very aware i become too aware and i think in a way that is good when i'm hosting because i'm like i want to be i want i when i'm presenting like on a live show, I am purposefully looking at and thinking about a million things.

22:42And I'm thinking about the next thing I'm going to do, or I'm listening to the thing I want to respond to. I'm remembering the thing to do a callback on. I'm never really thinking about what is happening in that moment, in that actual moment. Whereas. Can I ask you a question, man? You might be, this might be really like, we can cut this out as well. If not, do you have ADHD? Well, like, And I feel like it's such a cliched thing to say, but like everyone I know and love has said you do. Says I do. And actually - The way you just described that, sorry for keeping cutting in, but the way you've just described how you present is exactly how I do.

23:21Yeah. I'm never, I'm always thinking about the, I'm never thinking about what I'm actually doing. And I think that's one of the reasons why I love my job and why I feel comfortable doing it. I still get very, very nervous, but I also just am an anxious person. But I love the fact that when I'm doing live telly, it's like the one time, and I feel this a bit like when I'm DJing as well, it's like the one time that I feel like, almost like calm because it's like, I can let my brain just like go. Yeah. And like experience. Yeah. I feel like experiencing loads of things at the same time and having a, and my mind jumping from thing to thing to thing.

24:08It's like, Oh no, this is, this is actually good for a change. I think you've explained that really well, by the way. Yeah. That's really interesting to me. I, I just want to ask you like in, in slight more serious terms, like what would it mean to actually win this fucking thing? And I know you've probably been asked that a million times, but I've known you for fucking years. I don't think people actually realize. I don't think people realise how long I've known you for like I think I've known you for like 8, 9 years probably since I first met you at Build I think yeah it would have been in 2015 maybe Will Best taught me how to present he actually taught me how to present you did, you taught me how to present he gave me all the tips, all the pointers when we were working years and years ago but you didn't need it because you already had you have that thing that I think we've just talked about of like you're just very natural in the sort of environment that you need to thrive on in order to you were very kind and you i remember you sitting me down you were like you literally i don't even if you fully remember it but you were like this is what i do here this is what i do there i will never forget that by the way i talk about i tell people a lot about that it's very sweet of you oh mate of course um but you've like done a lot you've like you know you've been like sort of everywhere you know big brother now I feel like you're like people are seeing exactly who Will Best is and what you can fucking do wow and by the way mate do really well I believe I think you're one of the best mate when I watched you do whatever it is you do whether it's radio whether it's presenting I think you're fucking phenomenal well that's incredibly kind but to win this would probably be the crowning achievement of that you would think wouldn't it well I mean look

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28:05obviously it would be amazing and you know like humbling and all that kind of stuff like genuinely of course i'm a big crier as well i would obviously cry but and i yeah but i i i cannot stress enough that how this is not like a line this is true i i cannot believe that i've been asked to do it and you know genuinely the taking part feels like a win because like and and i was doing some filming um yesterday um it was a shoot we actually shoot for big brother but obviously we're talking you know about strictly as well and all that kind of stuff and i was like getting ready for the shoot my fiance is my stylist like she's an amazing so that's her career you know she's styled far bigger people than me and she does fashion and you know i'm lucky to have her you know, working with me and we were like getting ready for this shoot.

28:59And I just had this moment of like, like we were in this kind of like, you know, like hotel room getting ready. She was like, do it sort of helping sort my outfit out. And like, I was going to be doing like press about big brother. And I had AJ there, we're doing this shoot and it was just all very exciting. And like, you know, and I was like, in beginning of 2023, like middle of 2023. So literally like three years ago basically the the thought that I would be working or like doing anything even remotely approaching working on Big Brother or bloody strictly like it was so like inconceivably far from where I was yeah like I was and I was you know I was loving it but I was like working on a business that had nothing to do with TV.

29:49And I was behind working in telly behind the camera. Like when I found out I was doing big brother, I got the call while I was like producing, uh, uh, like a shoot for, um, iPlayer for like a film show with Ali Plum, the amazing radio and film guy. Like I was not like, it was so, and, and, you know, and to be perfectly honest, we were really like stressed about money. Like I had to take a, you know, like a, a, a Rishi loan, you know, during COVID cause all my work was like wiped out. And I was like, pay, still paying that off. And it was like, living in London's really expensive. And I was, you know, I was like, just trying to make ends meet.

30:28And, you know, you know, and me and Tobes were like, you know, it was, we were obviously fine and having a good time, but do you know what I mean? It was like, things were were difficult and and then and i was like fuck tobes and then i phoned her afterwards because i had and i had to do other stuff and i was on my way home and i was like i had a real realization today like we're really fucking lucky like that you know just a few years ago like the fact that we get to you know to do all this stuff and it's amazing so so like so yeah genuinely just doing strictly is enough i know exactly how you feel i had the exact same feeling about the jungle when they were like oh you win it i went mate just be in here like amongst ant and deck yeah all that kind of stuff and you don't even think about winning it and that's why you probably are gonna win it by the way well you did it buddy and we fucking hope that you do and i mean that i like i i've known you for years i i remember you did you commented under a post of maya aj and you when you were younger and it was one of the funniest like you're just so you're very good you're very quick with it and like so at that time i think aj had maybe just done strictly.

31:33Maya was obviously smashing it. And it was the three of us. And I was like, you know, us back in the day. And I was like, and if they play their cards right, like with a lot of hard work, maybe they'll catch me up in the career of like stakes. I literally was on zero TV shows with like no followers on Instagram at the time. I may have done Coach Trip actually. Don't forget Coach Trip. I may have done Coach Trip. Which you also did. And you did Big Brother. One of the best shows I've ever done was Coach Trip. I adored it. I had very different experiences. I think we did. I remember the honey G period was brilliant.

32:06It was a dark time. But, but, but Will, I, and I mean this wholeheartedly, mate, I think you're one of the best guys in the industry. I mean that. And if there's one man who deserves every ounce of something that comes his way, it's you. And that's not even because you're a nice guy. It's because the talent that you have, mate, when I watch this dude present, it is phenomenal, mate. It really, really is. You haven't seen me dance. He's going to be shit. I'm going to be shit. If I can remember the moves, I might be all right. bit of advice for you and i've not done strictly but my god have we been around it um from from p and ex-girlfriends and whatever i would say it it consumes your life yes and the best thing that you have and i think flurb probably has given you this as well the best advice you can ever get is is stay in the real world yeah as much as you can yeah do not get sucked in because they try yeah to suck you into like no they doesn't mean anyone that's not easy or anything it's just the the zeitgeist yeah yeah yeah it tries to suck you into this is life yeah and the best thing you can do i think is is remain in real life um but yeah i think the radio show will massively help you like hits breakfast will save you i genuinely believe that as will big brother yeah um and i and i think that you're really lucky that you've got all of those yeah no definitely i feel yeah no 100 and i think big brother i think even just the fact that like when i finish training every day like i need to switch my brain instantly into big brother mode i need to watch big brother i need to consume everything that people are talking about online about big brother i need to like it's like that is you know i otherwise i would just sit there stewing and being like i can't remember the steps i'm gonna be shit it's the worst thing you can do and then you can't get out of that hole it's it's it's really really tight in the best possible way by the way because it's such a huge amazing brilliant show and it can because it because of its weight and because for how big it is, it's great that you have other avenues.

33:58And on that, let's talk about Big Brother because that coming back is like a person who adores TV's wet dream. Like I still think Big Brother is ground zero for reality television. A hundred percent. Yeah, it is. Yeah. And I know how much you love presenting it. What can you tell us about the series coming up? I imagine probably not much. No, so the thing is, so normally I know nothing, right? What I'm doing is I know nothing. However, yesterday I actually learned some stuff. I discovered some things which I cannot tell you. Oh, you bastard. I fucking, you've turned into Pete. No, but look, but one, okay.

34:32So one thing that is out there is the fact that it's going to be like the house, it's going to, I don't know how to phrase it. Yeah, it's going to be very different every week. Now, like there was something of like people, like it's going to be a totally different house every week. That's not going to happen. Um, but the, it's going to be a, a, a, a house of different things every week. And I have been told what each week is. Have you? And, oh my God, it's like, it's what they have, what they are doing this year, um, is like brilliantly hope, keeping it feeling fresh and new and ITV. because it does feel different on ITV, whilst also, like, giving some heavy nods to some, like, for the OG Big Brother fans.

35:27Oh, we love to hear that. It is like, it is the absolutely, you know what it is? You know what it is, this series? What? It's going to be Zillennial. I thought you were going to say that. I literally thought you were going to say Zillennial. It's a bit of both. It's a bit of both. A little bit nostalgic, but we're pushing boundaries. Yes, yes, yes. And the boundaries that they're pushing, like are, are even themselves nostalgic. Oh, that's cool. And yet for the new gen who are going to, it is. I'm seeing food fight. I'm seeing food fight. Do you remember that? It's got, yeah, it's going to be, it's going to be really good.

36:00And mate, I've done it. I've done big brother. Yeah. So like, and I maintain this, it's the. You came third. I came fucking third. Yeah. Incredible. That's wild. I maintain it's the hardest show I've done. Did you? Am I right in thinking when you were talking about it before, you were saying that like, you kind of felt like maybe you weren't quite ready for it. Did you say that? No, I think the other way around, I couldn't do it now. You were too ready for it. No, I said, yeah, yeah. You should be more ready now. Shut. But I couldn't do it now. Right. I just couldn't. No. Mentally, in the best way, by the way, but like it is, it takes you into a complete, and it has to, to a completely different world.

36:39Yeah. And like the jungle I found similar, but like the good thing about the jungle for me was I was amongst like, the like Tony Bell for me or Marvin Humes is just phenomenal. Right. And in debt. I remember that I, you are living a life with these people. And it was like, I was the perfect age for it back then. It's a, it's the most of that. And that's why it's such a brilliant show. I believe it's because it is so real. Like you forget the cameras like that as you do with the jungle to be fair. But like it is, it's interesting. Like there are so many things that you don't realize about big brother until you're there.

37:14And I hope you don't mind me saying. so for example one of them would be um the cameramen you forget obviously the cameras are there but there are these mirrors yeah that people can film you through yeah you know because you've done little backstage things before and like you can sometimes hear a cough yeah so you're it so let's say you're in big brother right and you're like trying to get to sleep and someone goes oh and you're like what the fuck yeah oh my god i forgot there's a man in the walls there's a dude just like literally a meter away from me just with a cup of tea yeah at like 1 a.m in the morning just just just fucking filming something breathing heavily just breathing heavily right by your head yeah and that kind of stuff really like trips you out it's so wild but presenting that must be so fun that's like the dream of i think most presenters yeah so much happens and you must be like hoping that you get drama and all these kind of things of course and then when it does happen you're like okay yeah great like we get to really no 100 but it's been interesting like Like this time, so the bits of press that we've done, it was being quite interesting.

38:16I think there's almost like you can tell how hungry people are for it because we were getting, we've, you know, we were getting some quite like juicy questions from in the press, like me and AJ, you know, asking us like things like, you know, how do you feel about the fact that like it's a, you know it's a social experiment and yet the producers will remove people from the house if they don't you know if they say the wrong thing kind of thing which obviously isn't exactly what has happened yeah um at all um but i think even the fact that those i think the fact that the show can throw up those sorts of questions is in and of itself fascinating well there aren't many shows that can and there aren't many shows that can and i guess my answer that question was like the end of the day it's an entertainment show and we want the viewers to enjoy watching it and we want the people to take that are taking part to enjoy watching it but also as viewers you know we want we want to i think the viewers you want that light and shade you want to see people having a good time because you want to make you want a journey man you want to see people yeah exactly so ian sterling said the best when we interviewed him um he said mate it's the people who are the most entertaining i love the most because at the end of the day if your family and friends know you're a lovely great person then it doesn't matter yeah and it's like don't go in there trying to be someone or trying to do something exactly be entertaining yeah enjoy yourself it can never be that bad who do you think would do better in big brother me or pete mate you i don't know oh come on i don't know i pete pete i just don't think you can be cantankerous on Big Brother.

40:03Cantankerous. Do you know what I mean? Pete's so cantankerous. I think he's too, I think he'd also, he'd get too angry, wouldn't he? I think he'd hate it. Oh no, he'd hate it. And I don't think, and I think people don't, you've got, I think if you look like you're enjoying it, I think you're more likely to do well. I hear you. Because that was why Pete did so well in Strictly. Because he actually was enjoying it. He actually was loving it. and you could tell by the, like as it went through, he was really loving it and that's endearing. But no, Big Brother, how do you think he'd do? I think he'd do fucking brilliantly because of all the things you said he wouldn't.

40:40I think people love to see someone hate an experience and I think we're so used to people coming in and being like, okay, like we've seen a Sam Thompson before or we've seen a this or we've seen a that. What we haven't seen is someone come in, sip a coffee with exasperation in the morning, hating every single person in that building having a his 50th yeah the morning and being like oh god i'm gonna fucking go back in there like i i just i feel like we all as a viewer yeah like one because you know the kind of people who normally sign up for like a big brother show right yeah that's like a credit to itv and the casting process is try and whittle them down a little bit but a few of them always get through the cracks where it's like i get they want to be famous and they want to do this thing and they come in the beauty of a pete wicks or like not so much anymore pete's starting to quite like the entertainment biz now but like the beauty of the old pete wicks maybe was like i fucking hate this yeah yeah and and that and there's something to be said i think for a viewer watching i don't know man i think you'd i mean look you came to that also on on like on i'm a celeb people will get somebody who hates bush sucker trials to do all the trials but they're not going to vote for them to win it's a good point it's a very good point i learned that very very sort of late in the day actually for that I didn't realise that well if you my biggest advice for anyone like GK Barry rang me up and was like do you have any advice for like how I survive yeah he said to me I was like look GK to be honest with you just have fun around the campsite it's so much better yeah just enjoy yourself I was like don't worry about who's doing trials or any of that shit it doesn't matter like you're around 12 11 other people yeah and like the most fun bit is when everyone's together yeah it's not going to get taken to the trials you think it is when you before you go on and I would love to go and do one of those trials.

42:26Like I'd love to go and do it. And a deck at Orson. Go and spend some of them. But like being with everyone and being a family and fucking around by the fire and pissing around and maybe even pissing people off. Like that's the best. That's the glue, I think. And I gave it. I don't think she took any of my actually pointers, but she did great. She did amazingly, but on her own terms, which I think she needs to do. Yeah. Yeah. It's, I love watching people read. I don't know. Maybe this says a lot about me. I love watching people struggle in reality shows. I adore it I love watching Peter Fish out of water don't pretend you don't too like you as a presenter of course I do I can't wait to watch that and see your buff pectorals again oh come on you're looking good actually mate I'm not in as good a shape as you are mate you're 40 bloody one I'm 41 today we were in a gap on the radio between songs we were all working out what day we were born on fun game I was born on a Sunday of course you were yeah you're a very religious man um and uh very spiritual um we were all most of us born on a thursday but so i put in the date of my birth and it said like how long ago that day was yeah and it was 41 years six months and eight days or whatever and i saw that written down and i was and i genuinely was like oh what was that long like what are they talking about that was that long ago that can't be how long ago I was born 41 fucking years and six months yeah that's wild that's crazy that absolutely is I mean like halfway through that you started doing Abercrombie and Fitch modeling as well mate to be fair like you know that was a great time in your life why are you bringing that up because I've got it on the script and it leads me quite nicely to the next bit okay uh because I feel like I know quite a few people who did that.

44:13I know like four different people. So Ryan Libby, my brother-in-law did. Yeah. Oh, but Ryan would have been at the front with his top off. What was, what were you? At the back with, uh, in knitwear. I wasn't. Fully guarded up. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Oh, so you weren't out front. I wasn't out front, mate. Oh, I thought you were. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, So you basically, it was like a sort of metaphor for society. It was awful. So they had the really hot people at the front with their top off, right? They were their absolute A+. Yeah, the A players. Then you had the people behind the denim bar.

44:53So they're the first people that you see when you come in. They are wearing shirts. They've got a lot of buttons on the shirts, okay? Then as you move back through the store, the caliber of model, in inverted commas, it's a shop assistant gets worse and worse and worse until you reach the uh changing rooms hello will best um is this the right size would you like me to get a smaller one you know that that was me um so no i was not uh topless at the front i thought i was convinced you were we talk about 41's not old at all yeah but even when i was doing that i was the oldest person there because i was like in my mid-20s and they were all 18 oh god were you the manager no i've told you i was folding clothes in the flipping in the changing room it was it was terrible they wouldn't they wouldn't let me out um yeah no i was i was i was right at the back but it was still a weird place still when i walk past somebody wearing the scent i get terrible flashbacks it gives you sort of flashbacks oh yeah but but i think that's also true of strictly right in terms like embracing it people have said embrace it embrace every every element of it and And I have, I've already been embracing the costumes, the outfits.

46:05Glitter. Not just the glitter, the tightness. Oh, you're going to be put in some leather trousers. I wouldn't believe. Your shirt is going to be undone. You've still got a very good rig, mate. So like your shirt's going to be unbuttoned. The leather trousers, they're going to be like jegging. Well, my outfit for the launch kind of routine thing. Or the penis? it leaves it doesn't leave much to the imagination do you know what I mean my mum was like oh what did they put you we were like no we're not we're actually not going to watch the first episode of That's Okay we'll start in episode two yeah so then for the yeah yeah so for the photo shoot when we did the photo shoot in the same outfit I wore some incredibly tight pants and then I was thinking maybe that was a mistake maybe I should maybe I should wear some some extra some padded pants embrace the is this too graphic?

47:01No, no, mate. We've seen Pete's bollocks in pink PVC leather jacket. You can't beat that. Trust me. Well, maybe you can. No, no, no, no. Well, that's the other thing. His bollocks are pretty large. Penis tiny. No, no. That is what he says. It's like an acorn between two plums.

47:22Yeah. Acorn. I dream of being able to boast an acorn. um but yeah it's um that i think is is is it's gonna be it's gonna be fun and how would you um do you know i'm struggling to come to terms with you're saying come to terms with the with the outfits i i'm struggling to come to terms of something that hopefully i can get a little bit of um info from you from a little bit of guidance maybe and then we do have to go because we have to do the bonus but um yeah but i got called 40 a couple of months they don't laugh i got called 40 in front of my colleagues here by the man the lovely man in the cafeteria yeah and he said to the team he went your boss over there he's around 40 probably 40 he didn't say it to you didn't say to me they came running outside these bastards and looked me in the eye went you'll never believe what happened i was like what do you mean they were like oh the guy in there who you really like he just said like oh you know if i would guess his age i'd probably say like mid 40s yeah but They asked because they originally thought it might be Pete's.

48:28He then made a point out of being like, no, it's that guy there and pointed at me. Now, Will, I've always been the youngster of this sort of like here posse that we have. How do you get? But hang on. How old are you? 34. Oh, that's bad. But fucking hell. No, getting 40 when you're 34. Yeah. Do I look 40, do you think? Oh, Will, come on, mate. These days, these days, it's really hard to tell how old people are because people are, you know. No, you've just got you've got a very expressive face. Listen, they're not wrinkles. They're life storylines. No, you don't look for. What do you think?

49:14Oh, no, this is going to get a complex. I already have a complex. Yeah, but hair transplant's booked. Getting a tranny. You don't need to do it? I haven't done anything. The more you've done. What the fuck are you doing? What are you saying? Have you been... Wait, no, sorry. I finished that sentence. What have you been dying? You've dyed things. Yeah, I've dyed my hair and my beard. Okay, Pippa, fuck it, say what you mean. Oh, have you been having little... No, Will, no. Do I look like the kind of guy I do that? When did you have them? No, when did you have them? I haven't. What? I haven't. why do you look so surprised?

49:54I've had Botox twice before and I've had keep going with it and I've had a bit and I've had a bit of salmon sperm under the eyes oh yeah I remember you having the salmon sperm I've had a bit of polynutritides polynutritides is that what it's called? call it what it is mate it's jizz polynutritides no one speaks Latin here what do you yeah well I think mate listen you look great well I've got I've got to stop you there we don't have you for that much longer so yeah you'll be dead of old age fucking Christ alive it's I'm going for it again no no no mate you look you don't look a day over like 30 mid 30s mate I do want to talk to you really quickly about radio yeah yeah yeah obviously we both do we both do we both work in the same building you do the chart and you do the weekend chart and the weekend show and I stand in for you guys every now and then when you guys bounce and you're on like your holidays I wake up at 5 I think I said this to you I wake up at 5am because Will actually mess with me like how are you finding it and I was like brother i can't breathe yeah like you wake up every morning at what time well it's not that bad i wake up a quarter past five it's not that five twelve my alarm will go off and you're live at six right we're live at six if you had to give a bit of like like hammy radio jargon yeah bit of the old a bit of the old well i um i uh hi guys well we so we on hits radio we don't just play the biggest hits we we also play the biggest throwbacks so so anything for me where it will come out of a song and it'll be like um it'll be like uh jarul and ashanti now there's a throwback if ever i've heard one uh make sure you call it because today uh we are talking about annoying things your kids did during the summer holidays um that is literally we did that today we did that today on the radio Back to school?

51:42Yeah, exactly. Back to school. Who else is delighted to have those kids out from under your feet? We've got Rachel on the line. Rachel, what did Johnny and Eliza do every day during the holidays? They watched The Little Mermaid on repeat. It was so annoying. Oh, what are kids like? Anyway, here's another throwback for you. Yeah. That's our show. That was it. That was absolutely... Well, you know who does the best, like, piss take of radio people? Niall Gray. Oh, he's amazing. And guess what? He's got a show on Hits Radio. And it is that. He does it this morning one, doesn't he? Yeah, yeah, yeah.

52:17If we were to do it, Will, so it'd be like... It would be real. Welcome to Hits Radio, guys. We're live to the nation at 6am. I really hope you're in the car, not speeding, actually, but driving your kids safely, seatbelts on to school. Like, hello to all the truck drivers. Hello to all the taxi cab men. And women, Sam. Ha, ha, ha. You know, women now do jobs just like men do.

52:46Yeah, that's good though. Answer it. Buckle up. Buckle up. And I tell you what, turn this one up. I'm going to let you introduce it, Sam, because I think this is actually one of your faves. Who have we got? Thank you very much, Will. This one, I tell you what, couldn't be better just with the weather right now. This really pairs up nicely. It's an absolute tune and a banger all rolled into one. it's Dido and Eminem Stan we do play that yeah yeah yeah and then coming off the back of it we were always like oh that's such a tragic tale we always yeah because like he died didn't he in the thing yeah oh I hope he was alright in the trunk of that car you know that kind of stuff it's terrible oh my god it's not terrible it's good fun on that note oh my god Will this is why I absolutely love having this podcast I just want to do a couple of shoutouts quickly Big Brother returns with a new series on Sunday the 13th of September, Sunday to Friday at 9pm on ITV2 and ITVX.

53:40Will, obviously, is going to be hosting it. Strictly Come Dancing will be on Saturday and Sunday nights on BBC iPlayer and BBC One, of course. And, of course, you can also catch Will on Hits Breakfast weekdays at 6am. Will, I'm actually crying. I haven't laughed that much in such a long time. Oh, man. Well, thank you very much for having me on. Can I just say as well, you are a brilliant interviewer because you create a very, it feels like an incredibly safe space which is quite rare in an interview and it's very clever because then people say things that they otherwise probably wouldn't have said and then they'll read about it very soon but no but genuinely it's very you're a brilliant interviewer I almost got a bit emotional as well when we were talking I've laughed I've cried so thanks very much coming for you Will it means the absolute fucking world it's true I really appreciate that Will Best everybody thanks guys yes mate that was fucking great thanks mate that was it's so every time this bastard comes on this has been a staying relevant production

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