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Staying Relevant

20 Sep 2026 · 58m · 19 chapters

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198: Sam wants to know if he’s still number 1…

In short

The hosts (Sam Thompson and Peter Wicks) recap a “longevity doctor” visit with body/biological-age scans and discuss what they learned, then pivot to a lively paddle-tennis outing, plus ongoing banter about sports, “cat people,” and family life (nephew Leo starting big school; Sam’s “Uncle Sam” anxiety). They also tease their TV show filming and mention pro football predictions.

Guests

No podcast guests appear. The “guests” mentioned in the episode are friends/partners who join activities: Pippa (Peter’s partner), Tally (Sam’s partner/friend), and Joe Marler (referenced as a future paddle opponent). No background is provided for Joe Marler beyond being a frequent paddle player.

Key claims

Sam is “standard” on the scan while Peter is “standard/fat” by BMI but has higher muscle density; Sam believes genetics limit his physique. Paddle is described as “pussy” tennis; pickleball is “tennis for bungalows.” Sam’s “safe space” is Harry Potter during winter.

Notable examples

3D facial/body scans; Sam and Peter’s paddle doubles match where Pippa fears walls/glass; blood from knee/elbow after diving; plans to team up for tournaments and challenge Joe Marler.

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Chapters

2:26

Updates on Life and New Show

Catch up with Sam and Peter on recent life events and a new TV show.

“So Josh is on his own whilst trying to man two cameras.”
3:41

Health Assessments and Consultations

Discussion on health assessments and consultations with a doctor.

“Yes, we, Sam and I, which you probably have seen, have got a TV show together.”
4:54

Contrasting Health Profiles

Sam and Peter compare their health profiles and experiences.

“We went to see a – should I say his name?”
7:41

Genetics and Health

Exploration of genetics' role in health and wellness between the hosts.

“Well, look, you've constantly got something.”
9:11

Paddle Game and Friendship

Sam and Peter recount their paddle game experience and camaraderie.

“It's a little bit, a little bit large in the inner organs, right?”
14:01

A Paddle Game Experience

The hosts recount their first experience playing paddle tennis and share humorous insights about the game and their performance.

“He had the like wired headphones like hanging in front of the like kind of anorak windbreaker vibe.”
18:19

Competitive Spirit and Team Dynamics

They discuss their competitive nature during the paddle game and how they supported each other as teammates.

“The people that talk about paddle, I can see why people get addicted to it, but even the way Pippa turned up with two of them sticks and that little bag.”
24:42

Reflecting on Friendships

The hosts reflect on their friendship and the need to spend more time together despite their busy schedules.

“He asked my permission because I think everyone gauged my fear of the wall and like generally the back of the court.”
26:06

Favorite Person Confessions

A light-hearted discussion about personal relationships and how they feel about their significant others.

“you're kind of like, I've got other people I haven't seen for two months.”
28:00

Gym Conversations and Personal Favorites

Discussion about fitness, preferences, and personal feelings toward friends.

“It's a lot like you have in your body, how much work you put in, you're never going to quite have the genetics she's got.”
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29:10

The Great Cat vs. Dog Debate

A humorous debate about cats and dog owners, touching on personal anecdotes.

“telling her she's not my favourite person the son of grab a field day with his trouble in paradise trouble in pedal dice I'm here for a fucking good time not a long time.”
31:20

Defending Pet Preferences

Participants defend their preferences and experiences with cat and dog people.

“I think I, as a cat dude, first of all, Harry Styles' mum commented on that clip, which I think is kind of cool.”
34:25

Reflections on Animals and Education

Discussion on the importance of educating children about animals and their value.

“I'm not going to go around and shoot any cat people in the head, all right?”
37:34

Navigating Relationships with Nephews

Conversations about the challenges and joys of bonding with nephews.

“Well, he spent a few years liking you and then he's probably in that stage that I got to where, you know, you start thinking, why am I doing this?”
42:00

Growing Up and Changing Interests

The hosts discuss the transition of children as they grow and develop their own interests, reflecting on personal experiences.

“Fuck off, you little shit, and get back to school.”
46:20

The Comfort of Harry Potter

A lively conversation about the comfort and nostalgia that the Harry Potter series brings, especially during the colder months.

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48:35

Struggles with Diet and Sugar Detox

The hosts share their personal struggles with diet, sugar cravings, and embarking on a sugar detox journey.

“I like veg, I like fruit, all the rest of it.”
53:16

Exciting Changes and New Beginnings

Discussion on personal growth and new phases in life, including changes in health, work, and relationships.

“So you're acting like I've just had some new legs fitted.”
56:00

Navigating Professional Boundaries

Learn how to manage relationships and boundaries with employees.

“Do I sound like a wanker and said I've got a PA?”
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2:07Welcome to Staying Relevant, the podcast hosted by two best friends who are back in the room together. Me, Sam Thompson, and Peter, James, Jonathan, Joseph, Wicks. Got a bit of a skeleton crew actually today, don't we? No, just Kira off. We've got one person down at the moment. So Josh is on his own whilst trying to man two cameras. Yeah. Oh, what a guy. What a guy. What a dude. Who's on the pod as well. Yeah. Should we finish the intro? Yeah, sorry. Let's go. So this is the main episode, which means it's Monday. So you'll be able to watch this on Josh and Kira's YouTube channel from 5pm on Wednesday.

2:45And then we'll be doing a bonus episode, which comes out Thursday audibly, which you can watch on Josh and Kira's YouTube channel from 5pm on Sunday, which means you can catch us on a... Monday, Wednesday, Thursday, and of course a Sunday. Rate reviewed all of that crap. They'll be swearing if you don't like it. Go f*** yourself and everyone you know. And everyone you know. That's a new one. Yeah, yeah. Not just you, f*** your family as well. Yeah. I don't like the fact Kira's not here. I'm now like looking for someone to like, do you know who I'm not missing though? Peter, because we're together every single day at the moment.

3:16Yeah, I mean, look, we're back on the pod together. It's been, you know, lots of things have been going on over the past, I'd say, six weeks. You know what I mean? Sam was off. He had a very important engagement. He was playing golf. And obviously I was off for a period of time because I was in a different country. But we are back together. But not just in this, because we have started filming a new show. We're TV stars, bitches! Yes, we, Sam and I, which you probably have seen, have got a TV show together. So we have started filming. We're about a week into filming. And we're about four days in.

3:55Oh, my God. We're four days in. It feels like three weeks. So I'm literally, for the next however long, going to be seeing Sam almost every day. How are you loving it? I'm doing it. No, you're loving it. I'm doing it. Do you know how I know you're loving it? Because I spoke to Pippi yesterday. She called me. She went, he's quite fond of you at the moment. I was like, what do you mean? She goes, he goes, yeah, you know, he's enjoying the show. He was like, he's having a really good time. I was like, come on. Yeah, it's been a while since Sam and I have sort of done a TV show together. Our last one, you may remember, Reality News was cancelled.

4:29Sam cancelled it. Not even the lie either. So let's just hope that this one goes better. It has been a tough first week for one of us. One of us is absolutely fine and it's going as expected. We're kind of looking into looks maxing and biohacking and all that sort of stuff. So there's a few things that Sam and I have done together, a few things that are coming up. But we did kind of go and see a longevity doctor. We did. We went to see a – should I say his name? No, no, no. I think we'll just leave it. We went to this like really – We had a few tests done, didn't we? Yeah, we got some tests done.

5:04And do you know what? We're not getting into the full works of it because obviously we want you to watch it. But there is something that we've agreed that we're going to discuss on this pod. We did like a basic startup test, me and Pete, where you sort of like test your basic biological age, I guess. Well, so basically we did a skin, like a facial 3D scan and we did a body kind of scan. So with the body scan, you basically just stand in your pants and then this thing fucking, you know, takes loads of pictures and kind of works out some different things about you. Now, pre this, we had a little consultation where we had to discuss, you know, health issues and whatever else.

5:39As you can imagine, Sam's went on for about three and a half hours as a hypochondriac. He's, you know, I've got this, I've got this, I've got this, I'm worried about this, I'm worried about this, I'm worried about this. mine was roughly sort of 30 40 seconds of i'm fine do you know so no he he said to me the doctor goes he goes look i need you to give me all the bells and whistles which what's going on with you and stuff so i explain like family history of disease you didn't quite expect there to be as many bells and whistles yeah but there were a lot there were a lot of bells and whistles i took about half an hour explaining like my ailments all these things and he turns that he goes oh there's quite a lot there he turns to pete he goes what about you p goes i don't really sleep very well and that was it i'm literally sitting there but i've got fucking shit oh by the way i've got shingles at the moment yeah he's currently got shingles i've got shingles at present uh all around my side it's reminding me a lot of thailand because those dogs were quite itchy and you're very similar like he's just i actually said to the dog i'm itching i kind of use it like a gp session but it's just like it's wild the difference between me and pete where he's like what have you got going on all these kind of things so like for me i had to talk about like family history and stuff like that he goes pete family history pete goes don't don't really know my family so that You had no answers for him there.

6:47And you literally just went, I don't sleep. And then I feel like. He went, so, you know, what would you like to improve on your health? And I went.

6:57Could sleep better. He said, when was the last time you've been to doctors? I went, I don't have a doctor. He's never been to a GP? Yeah. Pete's never been to a GP. I don't have a registered doctor. Mine's on retainer. Yeah, he's got a season ticket. I go in. They know me so well. They know my voice. and this is no joke. So I went, I actually went to my GP last week and I called up and I was like, hello. And they were like, oh, hi, Sam. Didn't say my name or anything. Hi, Sam. Good to hear from you. And they were like, do you want your normal slot? Because I normally can't go to the doctor unless it's like early morning.

7:30Who has a regular slot with the doctor? They were like, do you want your normal slot? And I was like, yes, please. It was just for the NTAs. I was like, yes, please. So I had a 9am normal slot and just when the surgery opens and so, but I had shingles. Well, look, you've constantly got something. Now, my BMI, I'd just like to point out, I am borderline clinically obese. He's not. He's not even. He's not even. He's actually overdoing it. You weren't even that bad, which fucked me off even more. All right, I'm fat. I'm basically fat. So Sam's very good on the BMI. No, I'm not. I'm standard. Well, that's good, mate.

8:14No, I gym four times. Pete, to reiterate, right, as you can tell, this is, just watch the show. But, like, Pete doesn't go to the gym. He doesn't gym. He drinks copious caffeine. Red Bull on tap. We're only going to get onto that because I'm on the sugar freeze now. But, like, Red Bull on tap. F***s all the time. Coffee. Never gyms. The most he does is walk his dog, right? I'm in the gym four times a week. I am like running with Pippa nearly passing out half marathons shitting myself he ran from Manchester to London cycle like fucking tearing my calf has a physio every week do you know what so Pete right so there's like loads of different boxes and in the middle on the left you've got fit and strong and fit in the middle you've got standard on the right you've got like fat and then on the far right obese right and Pete is in between standard and fat right so he's not even fat he's in the in between and it's not even his body.

9:10It's his inner organs, apparently. It's a little bit, a little bit large in the inner organs, right? And I'm like, this is where I fucking got him. I'm like, this is, this is my, I've taken my top off so fucking fast and I've literally been like, okay, this is it. Let's get on here. Now, I'm standard. I am average, bang down the middle. I'm closer to Pete than I am fit and strong. And that was the moment, Pete, I went, I'm going to give it all up. And then, but then it does some other little bits on it. So it goes, you know, into like muscle mass. and muscle density. And as it turns out, and I think this is a turning point where Sam really lost his head.

9:46I have higher muscle density than Sam who goes to the gym. So then at that point, Sam's whole thing for the rest of the day was, well, it's genetics. It doesn't matter what I do. I can never be like that, can I? I'll tell you what, it's Pete's a mongrel, right? So Pete doesn't like really know who his dad is probably. I know who my dad is. No, you don't really like, it could be anyone. I know exactly. Yeah, you've got like weird, you've got like a tallie, you've got olive skin. My mum wasn't a whore. I know who my dad is. But like, you've got like, you've got like, I was complaining to Tally about this, literally two days before.

10:22I knew you'd go straight up. And Tally went, she's a load of bollocks. And she went, yeah, but he's got really olive skin. And I was like, where the fuck's he got that from? You're English. You've got, you've got weirdly, ask Tracy, right, what's been going on. Are you a whore? No, no, no. Don't ask who she's a whore. Because all this whole period, Mum, I'm so sorry. I'm so sorry. You can leave it in. I'm so sorry. My mum's got a good sense of humour. I'm so sorry, all right? I hope to God that Sam isn't right and you're a slag. But I know exactly who my father is. I know exactly who my mother is.

10:54But... You are tanned. You're quite naturally tanned. But my mum's quite tanned. Yeah, but... She does the sound quite... But either way, listen, genetically... You're just lucky. The doctor effectively said, genetically I'm wasting myself. Yeah. And you're doing the best with what you got. If I had Pete's genetics, I would take over the world. I'd rule the world right now. Like Pete's the luckiest man. And when we were doing our health assessments, actually, like, and I said this, I meant it with all my soul. Like he was like, Pete, like, how's your health? I went, it doesn't matter. He's a cockroach.

11:31Like he'll survive anything. Nuclear winter could come. And the one person on this planet, who was like, while smoking f***, by the way, is Pete. And he'd be like, I can't believe everyone's been such a pussy and dying. And I was like, that's what he'll do. He'll sit there with a red bull of f***ing up. Jesus, quite grow up. He'll be like, you just rub dirt in it or something. Like, it's mental. I just, I've never seen it. So it's come down to genetics. That's what, I'm unlucky. And it's my dad's fault, I think. Cole, you're just firing shots at the parents today. I'm unlucky. I've already called up my mum.

12:06Well, look, So it was a tough day, but look, you know, we had a lovely time. It's funny. I think the show is fun. It's going to be good. Yeah. So it'd be sometime next year. We've got a lot of film with lots of different things to do, but we thought we'd just give you a bit of an example the first week. But the end of the day, it was a lovely place. We went, lovely doctor. He supplied us both with some take-homes and some supplements. It's by one of us for take-homes. Of things that we could work on based on what he'd seen that day. Sam took home a sack of supplements and minerals prescribed by the doctor.

12:38He gave me a little vial of things that will help me sleep. Which Peter then gave to me. So, but listen, you need to watch it. It's going to be good. But look, all I'm saying is it's coincided finding out that sort of stuff with me being in a slightly different kind of era. You know, I've mentioned that I bought some gym stuff recently. I know. I saw it recently as well. This is big news for everyone. Huge news. It's probably the biggest news. Sam finally convinced me to go and play paddle. Took him long enough. And he turned up. My God, by the way. So Pete, not only that, he turned up to my neck of the woods.

13:18Pippa was there, actually. So Pippa, you could maybe get on mic here. Pippa, when Pete turned up, I was struck personally by how athletic he was dressed. He had like his short shorts on, like new gym trainers, like socks pulled up. And this really lovely little anorak thing. Which I think you now want. Which from Amy Leondor, which is like a lovely old brand as well. It's when I was sat on the bench. I was there first and Pete like came around the corner, but I didn't realise it was Pete. And then like, as he got a bit closer, he was smoking. And I was like, shit, that's Pete. And it was, do you know what finished off the whole like aesthetic, which was giving kind of like 90s.

13:54Yeah, it was. Like 90s kind of tennis chic vibe. Yeah, for sure. The wired headphones. He had the like wired headphones like hanging in front of the like kind of anorak windbreaker vibe. And I was like, God, it just works. And then he went, should we get a pint? Yeah. And then he was like, why are you drinking? So effectively, Sam and I were going to play paddle. We discussed it. And then Pippa and Tally joined us. and we did a little doubles game. So Pippa and I were kind of waiting outside. So it was Pippa's birthday. We took Pippa for paddle with her bosses for her birthday. It was Pippa's birthday.

14:38So Pippa, I had a pint of Guinness and Pippa had a beer and we had a little fag outside waiting for Sam. What we didn't realise was Sam and Tally had already arrived and were getting the warm-up done on the court. So we walk in with a Guinness and a thing Sam and Tally are having a little rally together and he's, you know, giving us some little tips and whatnot. They're both dressed like paddle pros. And I was thinking, well, I mean, I've never played before. I've seen Pippa's athleticism in previous things we've done and I wasn't confident. But we get in there, we have a little fucking rally and it was kind of Sam and Tally versus Pippa and I.

15:20How do you think it went? so look do you know what I can't mug off my girlfriend right so instead I'm going to mug off my friend Pippa there was a point where me and Pete met each other at the net and whispered to each other I'm going to say it now God I wish this was singles oh yeah you really hid that well though I had no idea so that's it do you know what it was it's like you really tried like both girls really tried let me just point out as well just before getting to this they weren't bad like no no I wasn't that bad no you I wasn't I agree with Pete they weren't like like I've seen I've never played tennis or pad or anything like that but like I think if you've got an element of hand eye yeah hand eye and actually your hand eye is not bad like for they could hit it back if they just stood and rallied back and forth they could go on for a while but anything that involved movement or anything that involved anywhere towards the back of the court.

16:23Pippa has, and I didn't realise this, she has an absolute indescribable fear of walls. If that ball went anywhere within about three feet of the wall of the court, oh no. Not for me, that one. But it's like she glitched out. No, but there's just a lot going on with the cage and the glass and the corners and then there's just glass all over it. You've got to get through that. and then you've just got to hit the glass and then you just can't bounce. It's just like, those are Pete's shots. Do you know what I mean? Those are Pete's shots. Do you know what I think is, Pete was being quite kind there.

16:57I would say anything that amounted to effort. No, no, I did a bit of running. You didn't run. You never ran. I didn't always get the shot, but I would run towards it. Pete's scampering from left to right. Pete had Astroburn on his legs from a friendly game of paddle. Because you wouldn't move. The poor dude. Yes, I wasn't prepared to knee slide around the court. I'm going to be honest with you. Listen, I'm very competitive. Sam, you are competitive. Oh, yeah. Another game of sport. And actually, you can tell Sam's played before and Sam plays tennis. You know, Sam and I, I think if we played, Sam would 100 % beat me.

17:35We want to play as a team now, me and Pete. So I will tell you this. You're a terrier. For me, I might not understand the rules. And I might not have played before. But what you will get is maximum effort. And that includes diving for balls. So was I, when we finished, bleeding profusely from the knee and elbow? Yes. Did I have a good time? Yes. Pete loved it. I quite like it. We're doing it again. Do I think paddle is the new sport for me? No. Based on the fact that almost everyone I saw at the paddle courts and the way it made me feel was like a c**t. The people that talk about paddle, I can see why people get addicted to it, but even the way Pippa turned up with two of them sticks and that little bag.

18:29Oh, yeah, she came with two bags. Pubs, rackets, whatever it is. That in itself, to be that shit at something but have two custom rackets. They're not custom. They're not off the rack. Oh, Pippa, they are not off the rack. Those are fucking custom. What do you mean? Those are weighted rackets. Engraved into the handle, the one you gave me, was paddle pippa. Oh, shit, yeah. But Sam and I, listen, Sam played a lot of tennis but hasn't played loads of paddle but has played a few times. That was my first time playing. Good fun. What we decided, and I don't know if this is just a Sam and I thing based on the fact that we are quite overconfident in a lot of things, quite arrogant.

19:10We've now decided that we're going to team up and play tournaments. Yeah. Based on one session. No, no, we're so in. We're going to start entering They were like getting out their calendars and like planning when, what days would work for like a tournament. But how fun is that? No, I'm so for it. As Pete was like wiping the blood off his knee with his windbreaker. Do you know who we're going to call out first? Joe Marler. Yeah. Joe plays all the time. Yeah. And I'll fuck him up. We will fuck you up. And I'll tell you why, because I've seen clips of him playing. Shit. I'll tell you what we've, we're fucked here.

19:42I'll tell you what we've got as a team. All right. And I'll tell you what we'll do. Delusion. Delusion. communication, all right, we work together so well, all right, that it's just, you know, it's like telepathic. Sam has got technique. Sam's very good at placing the ball. It's in the wrist and all the rest of it. What I have got is pure aggression. He does. Pure aggression, effort, and a never give up attitude to any ball, wherever it may be in that call. And that's what you need, man. I'm going for it. So we're effectively, you know, when you look at it, and if you compare us to sort of things, if you look at like Chelsea back in the day, he's like Zola, I'm Dennis Wise.

20:22That is the best analogy. We've lost Pippa there, but like that is the best analogy I've ever heard. And we are genuinely going to do this. We're going to, me and Pete are going to team up. So if anyone wants to come against us, please be our guest. However, Pete, just to go back to sort of like normalcy for a second here, you mentioned Pete about like the kind of people you saw. Bear in mind, we were in Fulham, right? What, what, how would you describe stereotypically, right? If you just like hadn't played and you just had to think in your head, what's like your average paddle player if you had to describe what they were like?

20:56Average paddle player. La-di-da Larry's. Who the fuck is a la-di-da Larry? La-di-da Larry? Yeah. Like, like, Jeffrey, paddle. We're going to do some paddle. We're doing, it was on the lunch break in between running hedge funds and blah, blah, blah. blah. And so my friend, he owns this paddle yard. And so just mimicking me. That's my mate. But I feel like everyone's friend owns a paddle yard. And the thing is, you know, the thing is, it's great for the cardiovascular, you know, and it's, it's like squash and it's like, and it's like squash, but it's more, it's more social than anything. And then, and then what they'll do is they'll have breaks.

21:39They're all sweating profusely, despite the fact it's quite a small call. and there's absolutely no needs to put it. And when you watch it, they all think they're great, much like we've done after one session. But they're crap. It's literally, if you can hit the ball back, it's like, yeah, no, I play paddle, I play paddle. All the gear, no idea. And it's people that want to do it on a lunch break but can't deal with a contact sport. So it's really, paddle for me is a game for pussies. Because the point of this is, is like, it's just, it's shit tennis and it's quite easy. For someone that's never played before, I can get around a fucking car.

22:20Like tennis, I think is difficult. It's a fucking difficult game. But then what was introduced to me when we came outside and we finished was fucking pickleball. That, let me tell you now, that is tennis for people who, that's tennis for bungalows, all right? And what I mean by that is... My mum's going to be gutted at that. She loves pickleball. Well, with the exception of Karen, all right? But it's tennis for bungalows. And what I mean by bungalows, that's a bungalow person is someone who ain't got much going on upstairs. It's for fucking idiots. It's not a real sport. We'll be signing up to paddle as a duo.

23:01Before we went on the court, I was like, Sam's played quite a lot. Like, I'm a bit worried about us. No, but you go a lot. And Pete turned to me and he went, don't worry, I've grown up playing loads of contact sport. I was thinking like... As if he's got a rugby tackle tally. I don't know if that's applicable here, but like, okay. How did you find being on a... Because what I will say about Sam, very encouraging towards the girlfriend. Thank you. Very, very good. We both knew we were dealing with inadequate players. And you and me and Pete, just give each other the right look. A really, really sly look and be like, oh, for fuck.

23:37And listen, when you know that there is a weaker member of a team and you're doing a thing, and I didn't let the competitive edge take over because the competitive edge would have meant that I just slammed it at Tally every time. And the same for Sam. Knew exactly anywhere near the wall near Pippa, you've won a point. It's a guarantee point. So it got to the point where we were both shouting. Sam was returning the ball going, Pippa? Like it was during the game. And that, Tally? There you go. But how did you find being on a team with me? Way less scary than I thought because the aggression was more put into, like, making sure we got some points.

24:14So we were down right at the beginning. We were a few games. So we went two games up. So we played two sets. We went two games up and then lost the set 6-2. Yeah. We lost six games on the bounce. He kind of took his eye off the ball a bit. Well, I thought we're two games up here. This is going to be fine. What I didn't realise was Sam was just warming up. Do you realise how shit Bippa was? Then we lost six games. What I will say about Pippa is she's a confidence player. At the point where we lost six games and the first set, she went, well, you know. She fully gave it up. He's super encouraging as a teammate.

24:44He was like, it's not over. It's not over. Come on, underdogs, underdogs. We've got this. We've got this. It's not over. He asked my permission because I think everyone gauged my fear of the wall and like generally the back of the court. I didn't want to encroach. He was like worried. Obviously it's doubles. He's like worried about taking over. And he was like, is it okay with you? Would you be happy if I kind of like come a bit over there and maybe like take a few of those ones? I was like, if you want it, it's yours. Like, please. And then we did way better. And then we won the second set. So technically, it's a one-all kind of game at the minute.

25:16And I think that was pretty fair based on the day. No, I completely agree. But the fact that you even turned up, it was a wonderful day. We had such a good time. Because do you know what? Like me and Pete over the past, what, is it probably like three, two, at least two months. We haven't really had much chance to hang out, man. Like, even people on this pod are like, why the fuck are they not doing pods together? Mate, you've been away, I've been away. I've played golf. I'd actually say, Sam, to be fair, I'd say probably over the last two years, we've both been so fucking busy. You haven't been able to hang out.

25:45The times that we hang up are generally when we're working. Yeah. Because other than that, when either of us are not working and there's a bit of time off, we have other things and commitments. But because we see each other every week anyway, you kind of drop to the least priority because it's not like we don't see each other for months on end. We see each other every week. So then when it comes to the time when you do get free, you're kind of like, I've got other people I haven't seen for two months. Do you know what I mean? So you need to kind of put that in because we know we're going to see each other every Wednesday or whatever else.

26:14But actually, I will admit, I had a really enjoyable time at Paddle. That was great. And next time, Sam and I have made the conscious decision to just go by ourselves. Yeah, we'll go on. We're going to go together next time. So we're going to have a game together. We're going to work out each other's strengths and weaknesses and then we're going to take the paddle world by storm. Yeah, I'm surprised you didn't go with your favourite person though, to be fair. Oh. Yeah, I'm surprised you didn't go with your best mate. Well, I mean, I don't want to add fuel to the fire of this, but one of the main reasons I played paddle is because she was in New York.

26:50That's so true. Oh my God, you're one of those boyfriends. Oh, wow. I'm going to learn a lot about you over the next couple, hopefully forever. I'm going to learn a lot about you next couple forevers nice save Pete's the fucking boyfriend that only goes out when his missus goes away you're going to be that guy well luckily for you she's away a lot your favourite person do you know what's funny is I actually get it I understand in all seriousness I Pete I got so many messages being like are you okay as if I would genuinely be like in my home in floods of tears, like locked in my bedroom, like re-watching the video of Pete being like, she's my favourite person and my best friend.

27:36Sam, were you? Do you know what? It stung. It stung. I was actually watching it on the way to filming when we were filming to Pete because I was like, I'm getting all these fucking meshes going up. And I was like, I was like, okay, have a look at it. And Pete's like very sweet about Liv. And I was like, that's just eight years of graft that I put in just for no fucking reason. Okay, nice. Do you know what it's a lot like? It's a lot like you have in your body, how much work you put in, you're never going to quite have the genetics she's got. What is she benching? Mate, she goes to the gym five days a week.

28:12I know, let's get her BMI. I bet she's better than both of us. Yeah, no, your favourite person. It was a bit of a stinger, Pete. Do you have anything to say for yourself? I actually did turn up to filming. Are you in court? Yeah, maybe. you know I feel like the people want to know you know am I in floods of tears quite possibly is it a kick to the gonads maybe you know like I feel like you say these things willy nilly you know do you mean them do you not are you saying them in the moment are you trying to be nice do you actually mean it so what's the question do I mean it the question is is she your favourite person yes do you have anything to say for yourself well I just do you know what alright Sam Sam who do you prefer me or Tully

28:55you just out of principle I'm now sweating my face is how much oh my god Hammond Tally's paddle ability telling her she's not my favourite person the son of grab a field day with his trouble in paradise trouble in pedal dice I'm here for a fucking good time not a long time. In all seriousness, of course I fucking understand. The fact that people actually genuinely were sad for me. They were sad for me. The problem is, is what happens with anything we kind of speak about on this pod is for a lot of people that listen to us, they understand the humour. For a lot of people who listen to us who have no humour themselves, they take everything verbatim.

29:48So we have a range of people that can't understand a joke and can't listen in any way, shape or form to what's being said. Now, some of those people call themselves journalists. What I will say at this point, because this is another thing people really worrying about this, is I would like to retract my statements about cats. I thought he was going to say about best friends, by the way. No, I'd like to retract my statements about cats because, you know, retrospectively when I've looked back at it and I've thought about it, as I said, which some of you I think missed during that, is I love all animals and I love cats.

30:27You know, if I see a kitten, I'm not kicking it. I'm cuddling it and I'm loving it. So actually it's not cats that I dislike. It's cat people. Cat people and the majority of you that have been commenting on this stuff, let me tell you something now. It's not cats that are the problem. It's you. You're the problem. I dislike severely cat people. Now, everyone is here going, oh, no, oh, no, we can't. I'm offending the cat cult and they're going to come for me. Fuck you. All right. I don't like cat people because you think you're above us all. All right. I don't like you. Cat people, bad. Cats, good.

31:19Do you know what I'm saying? I actually fully disagree with that. I think I, as a cat dude, first of all, Harry Styles' mum commented on that clip, which I think is kind of cool. Yeah, I think it's kind of cool. So you just mugged off Harry Styles' mum. Your cats, I bet they're lovely. All right? I bet they're lovely. Can I just defend the cat people quickly? Dog people. I know you're a dog person. dog people on Instagram right some of the nastiest comments I've ever received online are with somebody where their entire page is dogs and their profile photo is a dog and it goes mum to like eight paws or something like that some of the nastiest comments I've ever had are from you know what I'm talking about because you were laughing and smiling so I'm hoping you know what I'm talking about Josh I think he's laughing and smiling because that's a typical cat person response.

32:15No, it's absolutely not. It's always someone else's fault. Some of the worst... You can't take responsibility for the fact that you lot are a mess. No, some of the worst people with dogs in their bios and they're literally like... Because the thing is, you're actually a nice person, Pete, right? So you're a dog person, we love you. But like, there are a lot of people who genuinely go, no, I agree, Pete, I hate human beings and I just love dogs. You say it half jokingly. Some of these people genuinely mean it. No, no, no, no. No, right. So this is the difference. is I completely disagree, all right?

32:47I can show you some. No, no, no. Dog people, and the same as me, go, I prefer dogs to people. But everyone knows, and these are people that have got families and whatever else, they're not fucking, and they don't get that irate about it. I swear they go, I say all the time, I prefer dogs to people, and I do. And I think most people prefer dogs to people, dog people. But that's all they say. Cat people go out of their way to club together. and I've had messages, I'm disappointed in you. I can't believe you've said that. You don't know what you're talking about. You've obviously spent no time with cats.

33:20I've grown up with cats. They're not the problem. Cat people, they are professional victims. All right? That's what they are. Everyone's attacking us. Dog people just go, yeah, I don't like people. I love dogs. I stand with all the cat people and thank you so much. That's all I'm saying. And do you know what? Do you know what? I can see the nervousness in all of your eyes. This is going out, all right? And I want to make sure that my feelings on cat people are known, all right? And listen, for those of you, and I'm just going to, you know, caveat this with the, of course I'm semi-joking. Stop crying, you pathetic little bitches.

34:06But it's true. Whack it all out. Keeping that bit as well? Do you want to keep that bit? Yeah, 100%. because they're all going to sit there. They'll all get offended by the, oh, God, I can't believe I'm so disappointed in you. Of course, it's a fucking comedy podcast, you bunch of morons, all right? The whole point of this is we're all sitting here laughing about it. I'm not going to go around and shoot any cat people in the head, all right? Don't worry yourselves, all right? Basically, what we're saying is Pete's not bothered. Pete's unbothered. It's gone off of like a water off a duck's back.

34:40He couldn't give a shit. Do you know what? And don't get me started on duck people. No. But do you know what? And I think it stems from... From your best rants. No, that was... A good top dollar rant. And also, Cat Protection Society have commented... Sorry, what? They've said they've invited Pete down. CPS! And by the way, with that, I'd absolutely love to calm down because I love cats. So what, I'll show them a thing or two. I'd absolutely love... I'm here for rescue and we love you guys. So I'm here for that. Well, you weren't here for Frantoio. Eh? What's his name? Frantoio? What's this guy's name?

35:16Who the hell is Flavio? Flavio. No, I said this. Listen, Pippa has said to me for the last couple of years, especially since, obviously, you know, I've come into Pippa's life, that dogs, and everyone knows how much I talk about dogs and Rodney, that she's wanted a dog. So it kind of took me... Are you disappointed? I'm not disappointed because I'm not a cat person. but I'm just surprised because she loves dogs but I'm surprised too but she also but she also loves animals she's rescued an animal so I love that alright Flavia I think the fact that she's stolen it off someone's Italian grandmother is bad but you know fuck Nonna but I'm all here for it and I can't wait to meet Flavia guess who was in Pippa's ear for a lot of that yeah but also So when I come and see your cats, I take the piss and I say that one of them is cross-eyed, but I love cats.

36:11Yeah, he gives them a good old time. So anyway. He loves animals. Yeah, just calm yourselves down. He loves animals. All right? It's you that fucking ruin everything. I'm going to put it out there though. I actually genuinely, like people with dogs in their bios on Instagram, I do think. You're still trying to hammer this point and no one's going with it. No, it's because I genuinely believe it. There's one that I really know. I know who you're talking about. It's the one with the terrier face. Yeah, I know. You bring it up all the time. So there's one specific troll that's got a terrier. He doesn't like.

36:36All right. But it's literally just like, it's just got mum to eight paws. I went, shut up. Fucking. You're dead to eight paws, bud. I am. I actually ate beans. Sam cried when he found out I'm going to be a mum to full paws. Mate, when Pippa called me, she goes, I've got something to tell you. Right? I went, you're fucking pregnant. Yeah, that was the first. I thought she was pregget. I was like, oh my God, here we go. And then she had to be like, I'm not pregnant. Like she knew immediately what I had thought. She's not up the duff. The duff is not up. But I am a mother. But she is a mother. There we go.

37:07And listen, I'm all here for this. And do you know what? I think loving animals and stuff all comes from the way you're kind of brought up and it comes from an early age. It's all about the education of loving animals and all that sort of stuff. So CPS, back off. No, CPS, I want to come down. We'd love to come down. Sam's a big cat person. She's now a cat mum. We would love to take you up on that offer and come down because I do love cats. I'd love to meet them. But yeah, as I say, it all comes from the kind of education when you're younger. it's so important that you know the younger generation understand that dogs are better than cats no so um do you think that's the sort of thing that they're going to be teaching leo in big school no not at all but you know what that's a lovely segue and i've got to say i'm talking to about my my feelings about my little nephew leo going to big school now and um it's one of the cutest things seeing that boy in his uniform and like when they hit that age pete and they're literally like on their first day and i saw him leave on his first day and you're literally like that is he's growing up mate he's getting bigger when did he start big school literally two weeks ago any any issues anything no none louise said he's doing really fucking well and they were worried because obviously like they're like oh god you know going from nursery to that is like a massive massive joke he's been mean no no he's already made a mate okay he's already made a friend all right and can we trust his friend well this is the thing i was like do i need to do a little bit of background checks on these kind of these kind of kids i think at this point there's probably better i do the yeah we'll do you yeah yeah because i imagine you'll get bullied by his mate he asks about you quite a bit doesn't he well listen this because he's my pal do you know what i'm going to say this is actually serious by the way this isn't i'm not even taking the piss here i know we're having a laugh for anyone who's got nephews nieces whatever but they're not like directly your sons or daughters like i i can't tell he likes me anymore i don't know he likes me anymore.

38:59He's not that bothered at the moment. Well, he spent a few years liking you and then he's probably in that stage that I got to where, you know, you start thinking, why am I doing this? Yeah. Well, I don't know. I just feel like he just loves mum and dad so much. I'm trying to shoehorn myself in sometimes. Yeah, but you have to allow him to, you know what I mean, kids change like the wind. They do. I'm waiting for Louise Ryan to like fuck it in some way and like take away his sweets or something. And as soon as the rebelling starts, then that's... That's where I want to come in. But you just need to bide your time and then wait to swoop in.

39:31You know what I mean? If you force yourself, he'll resent you. That's what I'm doing. I've seen Pete. Do you know what? No, so stop. I think. Just let him live. Listen, he's growing up. Let him live his life. Let him spread his wings. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And then eventually, you know, when you're love saying, you've got to let it leave. Yeah. You know, so he will come back. I think Pete's actually fully right. And this is actually in all seriousness. I genuinely think I'm pushing myself on him too much. And he's like, just let me chill with my parents. Yeah, but that's what it is. And I'm like, please hug me.

39:55I always like, I drag him for a hug. I'm like, you will hug me. Yeah, I mean, listen, I don't know because I've not seen the interaction for a little while, but judging by what you're saying there, I imagine, yes, he hates you. He loves me. He does love me. Yeah, yeah. But he's just, I just, just, just relax, man. Just relax, man. I just want him to, I just want. Yes, but you're needy in every aspect of your life. He's not going anywhere because he's sort of, you know, under the family contractual obligation to just be around you, isn't he? So just give him some space. Treat him mean, keep him keen, and that applies to nephews.

40:33So true. Genuinely, if anyone's listening to this and having tips... Create a bit of mystery and fascination around Uncle Sam. Don't just lay it on the plate as in... I'm giving it... Do you know what? I'm giving it all up. You're just giving it up too easy. I'm giving it all up. You're giving it up, the desperation. You know, he may be young, but he's going to big school now. I'm begging it. He's a clever lad. He can smell the desperation. and goes, fucking hell. Yeah. All right. Oi, Uncle Sam. Fucking slow down, Sam. Uncle Sam. Oi, oi, oi. Slow down. Uncle Sam. Slow down. Shut up. Because the problem is, is you're going to enter the territory of becoming embarrassing Uncle Sam.

41:06I can't do that. I want to be cool, Uncle Sam. Well, there you go. So just fucking be cool. Yeah. I'm just waiting. No, I think you're completely right. I just need to, I need to just back off a little bit, I think. You know. It's a scary place because you want your nephew to look up to you and see who's like. But he does, obviously. but you're not enough for you. But no one likes you enough for you. You know what I mean? Unless someone has got your face tattooed on their forehead and doesn't leave your side and is constantly begging for your affection, you're worried. You hate me, don't you? No, I'm on the phone.

41:37I just want to have a nice relationship with my nephew. But you do have a nice... It comes from a good place. No, no. See what I mean? Look, you've got to... He loves you. Don't panic, all right? But see, this desperation is making me awkward. Yeah. All right? God, I just got to say whatever, Leo. Piss off. No, no, no. No, that's what I'm going to do. This doesn't go next time he goes Uncle Sam, you go fuck off, Leo. No, no. Fuck off, you little shit, and get back to school. Yeah, piss off. Hey, you've got a new mate now. You don't need me. Fucking hell. No, just nephew hates me. Pete's new best friend.

42:15And like, just a shit paddle. Are you a little bit needy? No, do you know what I love, Pete? Especially when he's older, he's going to listen to this. He's going to be like, fucking hell. My uncle is a fucking creep. He's a fucking loser. Jesus Christ, Sam. When he's like 18, he's like, he's going to listen back to this and go, fucking hell. But I do get it, mate. And it's a really beautiful thing to, you know, be in that kind of phase of watching some grow up. because he's turning into like a little man. He's gone from a kind of a bait. Yeah, he's, well, I would say sort of little man. He's not a man, yeah, he's not got pubes.

42:53Quite early. I don't think we're ready for the birds and the bees. But he's like a little boy starting to find his own interests as opposed to the interests that, because I think, I mean, I don't know. Obviously, I don't have kids. But when they're kind of young and Leo's age, you just give them loads of options and see what they like. And then when you start getting to kind of the age he's now, he starts making decisions on what he wants to do. It's like football, Harry Potter. Yeah, I like football. Or he seems to do loads of stuff on his bike with Ryan. So I like being on the bike and I like doing that.

43:20It's now your choice. What do you want to do? Rather than let's do this today. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Because you're trying to give them loads of options to find out. He's now like, well, I like that. So we concentrate on that. And then once he kind of develops these more kind of phases, that's when you can get involved and go and do them things with him. So it's a really lovely thing. But I do feel like based on what we've heard today, you sound a little bit at the minute like we need some reassurance and a bit needy. and I assume that's why you've gone back to your safe space. What's my safe space?

43:46Harry Potter. So I imagine that's why we're back at home. We're getting into that winter thing. It's been a tough summer. There's been a lot going on. I've not been around as much. You know, I've got a girlfriend. Leo's growing up. You're greasy. No one needs me anymore. There's lots of things happening where I think it's, you know, how do I kind of, you know, get back to where I am? Harry Potter, which is what you've had for so many years. He's not even wrong. If I'm ever feeling a little bit down, and I'm not actually feeling down at all. I've had a wonderful few weeks but Harry Potter is my base layer at all times it puts you in equilibrium it's always at my base and look Pete we are coming up to like Harry Potter Winter Arc which is like oh it's beautiful mate Harry Potter Winter Arc it's around October more so I'd say it's Halloween-ish we're getting into that sort of like routine the nights are getting darker it's getting colder and you're almost willing it to rain because when it does Philosopher's Stone straight on the box.

44:42You've got a blanket wrapped around you. It's getting cold outside, but you're toasty inside. A couple of cats either side of you. That is my fucking paradise. And it's raining outside as well. And it's a Saturday. It's a Saturday. You've got, well, me and you normally film on a Saturday now, but like, let's say we're not busy on a Saturday. That is my ideal weekend. It's coming up all winter. Come on. There are elements of that that I think sound great. Which are? It's raining. The weather. It's dark outside and cold. The rest of it, not for me. You would love, if we could just wrap you up, Pete.

45:22Let's just close our eyes for a second. I'm not fucking burrito. If we could just wrap you up in a little blankie. I don't want to be swaddled. You'll tie it around the neck and everything. It's like wrapped around your entire body and all your faces. I'll get fucking up, mate. Yeah, but you're just wrapped up like that. Harry Potter gets put on the box. I've never said, I don't want to watch it. And then there's just a little marshmallow sort of hot chocolate on the side as well, mate. That's a bit of you. No, it's not. It's a bit of you, that. No part of that is a bit of me. It is. I can see it in your eyes.

45:51A twinkle in your eyes, mate. No part of that is a bit of me. You love to see it. There isn't a part of that that is a bit of me. Pippa, I reckon we can. He can't have marshmallows anymore. Why? He's on a sugar detox. Is that from the doctor we went to go and see? No, it coincides with, okay. Oh, God. Here we go. Buckle it.

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48:31Listen, I weirdly enough have quite a good diet in terms of I like good food, I like veg, I like fruit, all the rest of it. My biggest weaknesses over the years, there's three, it was alcohol, which actually I think I've done better at. Yeah, it curved massively. So in comparison to what I used to. Cigarettes, which is still terrible. But my other huge addiction is sugar. So although I eat quite good in terms of my main meals and stuff like that. Loves an ice cream. Red Bull. I have syrup in coffees and I drink a lot of coffee or sugar in coffees. I love sweets. I eat a lot of sugar. As I'm getting older, that sugar is sitting on me.

49:13So I've got a sugary pouch. You've had a can before. Well, it's not about the care, because I don't care. But I'll tell you why I've noticed it's different, is because I wear baggier clothes now. I'm at the age now where when you get the titties as a man, it's downhill from there. And the tits keep drooping. So for me, I've noticed it anyway, and I've never really been on a diet or done any of that sort of stuff because my diet's all right. So Liv and I are both now until we go Vegas on a sugar detox. So that means that I'm not having sugar at all. I've never done it. I don't know how I'm going to get on.

50:03I've been doing well so far. It's now sort of Wednesday and it is nearly 12 o 'clock. Yeah. I have been on my sugar detox now for 12 hours. I'm also trying to drink two litres of water a day. You hate water. So, yeah, I haven't drank water since 2015. So you can probably hear me drinking this. This is coffee with sweetener. I'm drinking water. Obviously, we have a whole bowl of sweets in the office. They are talking to me. but I'm not listening. For years, Pete, you've taken the mick out of me and now you're on it. And you're going to start being healthier now. Oh, no, no, no, no. This is how it starts.

50:56This is how it begins. You're genetically gifted in a place where you've never had to because you are just lucky. And you know how much I resent you for being lucky like that. You're lucky, right? because you realistically should not be didn't realize it was that deep you should you know I'm joking you should never be never cat people don't as good he should never be as in good nick as he is now like his lifestyle is not lent whatsoever I should be dead you should be at least close you are you are miles away for dead I'm closer to death than you are right so it's it's it's gonna be mad seeing that transition alright look what are you saying are you saying like imagine the potential look at the potential You know what, Pete's changing before our very eyes.

51:42You're like a new cocoon right now. You've just started your cocooning phase. Whatever the fuck comes out of that cocoon, I don't know. But it's going to be something with wings. You're going to hate it. You're going to hate it. I'm going to love it. No, if he starts getting more in shape than you, you're going to rue the day you said this. No, see, this is why you're wrong. You will be happy for me because you love me and you're my best mate. You'll be happy for him, but you'll be... But you'll secretly... No. Because I'll tell you what will happen, right? You're both wrong. No, no, 100%. I'll tell you why you're wrong.

52:11I'm going to tell you why we're right. So you will be so happy for me because you're always happy for me whenever anything good happens. But what it will do, and this is, he'll semi-like it, but he'll notice, right, if I start getting fitter or I start doing things, what it will do is it will spur Sam on to go even harder, like to get back in. It's not the biggest blow up ever. So it's not that you wouldn't be happy. That's quite possible, yeah. Yeah, yeah. He'll be like, well, if he's doing that, I'll do it. Yeah, fuck yeah. That's what it's meant to be. That's what brothers are for. Like, they're meant to push you.

52:44Sib, healthy sibling. Healthy sibling. You're meant to be like that. And also, can I just say, this is my other point to this, was actually, what would be so fucking nice is, mate, if you do stop doing that, I know it sounds lame, but we could run together. And we could probably do it. No, no, no, no. Fine. No, no, no. How have we gone from a sugar detox? No, fine. But it will happen. Next year, He might sign up to half-mouth them. But my point is, my point is... Fucking escalating quick. My point is, is that we can do way more shit together because you can do... Sorry, I'm sorry my health has held us back from all the things we've done in the past eight years.

53:18So you're acting like I've just had some new legs fitted. All right? You've really been holding us back with how unhealthy you are. The possibilities are endless now. Even paddle was so cool. Like, oh my God, we did something normal. But a paddle I did before the sugar deets, I'm not a fucking invalid. Do you know what I mean? Like now. I think you're more open to doing like normal shit. Like we could actually go to the gym together. See, this sends me the other way because this now. Sam, you're doing a Leo. Back off. This sends me the other way because all I've mentioned is for 12 hours, I've not had sugar and this **** assigned me up to the London Marathon.

53:58We're going to trade together. Let's fucking slow down, all right, and see how we get on. all right i'm in the infancy of my journey good good good but we love it but we love the fact you're on a journey for now all right don't worry about my fucking sugar intake all right and and and why would have a clipboard now like he's just had another sweet if i if i get home and find a fucking star chart on the fridge to see how i've been doing with a sugar intake you lot so you'll have a garmin in the post on the way from me don't worry about the fucking sugar intake don't worry How about any of that?

54:32Fine. You've got enough going on in your plate, all right? How's the onboarding going with a PA, all right? Because that must be keeping you busy. Well, it's going well, actually, to be fair. My last thing is I'm very, very glad. Oh, you're not done with the Invalid's chat? No, I am done with it. I'm just saying I'm really, really glad that we're entering a new phase. And I like that phase. And I'm really excited to be on that phase with you. It's really, really goddamn fun. You know, it's my kind of winter phase, isn't it? He's on a winter arc. Well, I'm just, I don't know. I don't want to call it winter arc because I think anyone that says they're on an arc, unless you fucking know her, you're a c***.

55:11But for you, you know, winter for me is about less sugar and about getting better. For you, what is this winter consist of? Because other than Harry Potter and all that sort of stuff, obviously you've got a PA and all that. But for the last... It's been, winters are tough. Well, the past four or five winters for you has mostly been renovations. So will that be happening this winter? No renovations this winter. Mate, the house is done. No more. I can't do any more. I must say, I did see Sam's the other day and I haven't seen it since the garden has sort of grown in terms of his plants and all the rest of it.

55:44It does look very good. Thank you, mate. I appreciate that. Yeah, it's taken a blood, sweat and shears. So, Tally, well done, darling. Nothing's happening to the gaff, but it's, mate, very exciting because I have got a PA. Yeah. I think now is a good time to bring up the PA. Obviously, I've met her once. Do I sound like a wanker and said I've got a PA? Absolutely, yeah. I think I do, yeah. But I have met her. She's lovely. She came for a date. She seems lovely. You're still in that kind of era. Like me phase. It was similar to when we kind of started this company, where it was kind of, you know, I'm going to be the professional boss.

56:20And then you became friends with everyone. and then we entered a different area of let's get everyone in a chokehold. At what point will she be in a chokehold? She's probably got a bit of time. She's not really that way inclined. She's more you than Pippa. Well, yeah, I was going to say. Which is what I need. She's type A. It's very much what you need. But how is she? She's great. How is she coping? She's really good. She's on holiday at the moment. She's okay. She had her for a week. She's on holiday. she didn't tell him about the holiday when she started she booked it in that first week he's on holiday already but do you know what I did think to myself Pete I was like I called her after hours to tell her she was doing a really good job don't make her a pipper and I did think to myself I was like am I I'm trying to be nice but am I forcing my niceness upon her in her time off and like because she'd just done a day she'd done her like second day and she'd done a good job and so I was literally like so I belled her at like was she with you that day Yeah.

57:21Okay. Okay. Oh, she was with me all day. And then I put her in a cab. I put her in a cab and I went, I just want to let you know, I'm really happy and satisfied. I hope you are. So at the end of the day, when you were still with her, you said, this is a great day. You've done a great day. So why on earth did you fucking call her three hours later? Because then I wanted just to make sure that she knew that she'd done a good job. What, in case she was not listening earlier? Yeah. So I called her. She went, hello? Oh, no. And I went, hi. It's me again. I went, she was like, is anything okay? I was like, yeah, no, I just wanted to say I'm really glad we're working together.

57:52I was like, I'm really glad we're working together. I think it's going really, really well. Why don't fucking do that? Because I'm still feeling nervous. It's good you've had the thought about like hours though. That's like, it's good that you've said I called her out of hours. Like that's an acknowledgement of hours. Do you know what I mean? And is it something that you think maybe, I mean, I'm not saying anyone in particular. I'm not saying it's, you know, I'm not saying that you're kind of mentioning that as a hint or anything. but is it something you think maybe he could bring into other areas of his life with other people that work for Sam I think other people could implement that themselves earlier and like and then not be such a soft touch at the beginning and not be so far down the line look back and think yeah yeah you've done this so what we're kind of saying is that it's good that he's learned from his mistakes in in previous things and he's appreciating someone else's time but also for for for her it's good that out of hours there is a stringent between you know work and and personal business she's answered so she's she's opened the door we've all been there do you know what i mean like yeah i'm like a woodworm if you give you give me anything i'm through you're like okay this is fine yeah we're over cool with this sorry so pippa just you know it's you know and i'm not saying any names in particular at all but you know if you had a little bit advice for for sam's pa in terms of she has just, she's slightly, the door is ajar in terms of that out of hours contact.

59:10How can she sort of just close the door politely rather than - Close the door politely. Just come back tomorrow. Slowly shut. Rather than, you know, opening it up and welcoming him into her entire life. I think it's good that she answered if it was second day. I think it's good. Boss has rung. Could have been, you know, someone may assume you needed something. Which is why you would call an employee 8 o 'clock at night. I didn't need something. I needed to tell her she was doing a good job. But you needed it. She didn't need it. I needed it for my own validation. So I think if she gets a couple more of those calls, which, you know, may or may not happen, then she might start to recognise a pattern.

59:51And then once that pattern establishes itself, she'd be good to be like, hey, send a quick text. Hey, is this work related? If not, should we catch up tomorrow? Oh, mate, if I receive that message. I know. Dude, I'd call her then on top of that to apologise. I'm sorry it's 10pm, but I just need to say I'm so sorry for calling you and now I understand that you don't want that. But I don't think it has to take her saying she doesn't want that. Let's go with the assumption that we stick to those hours. Yeah, let's go with the assumption that she doesn't want that. Just here's your paycheck early, to be honest.

1:00:26No, that's not needed either. No, no. Have a bonus. No, no. I mean, sure. you fucking have enough I don't want to be here saying don't give her a bonus like do your thing but it's not compulsory yeah listen I think you're doing a great what we'll do is maybe we should just check in weekly on how being a boss outside of staying relevant is going I'm nervous because I need to keep her busy right her busyness will depend on your busyness and you're very busy at the moment she's my content strategist so her job title is EA slash content strategist. You've got two jobs. X. Did you let her pick that or did you come up with that?

1:01:05I came up with that. Nice, nice, nice, nice, nice. Okay. All right. Who knows how it's going to go, but I'm actually now like a different boss and it's scary being a solo boss so I don't have Pete to lean on. So I'm sort of really learning on my own here. Well, listen, you know, by the sense of it, you're doing a great job. She's been there for a week and she's not on, obviously. What a lovely episode. We're back, bitches. Thank you so much for listening to this podcast. Stay relevant, please, Sam Thompson. and Peter, James, Jonathan, Joseph Wicks. Make sure you rate, review, follow us on socials, do all of that sort of stuff, and then pop back on Thursday and we'll have another one for you.

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They exclusively reveal some details about their new TV show and expose their BMIs. And... the boys enter their sporty era… with Pete already eyeing up a tournament (Joe Marler we're looking at you!).


PLUS, Pete reveals all about his new health journey and sugar detox, while Sam reveals who he prefers: Pete or his girlfriend Tally?


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00:00 Introduction

01:30 Sam and Pete's new show

10:57 Padel enters the chat

25:05 The favourite person fallout

27:57 Are cat people the problem?

34:40 Uncle Sam faces the changing world of Leo

41:38 The Harry Potter Arc

44:11 The sugar detox begins

51:40 Sam has a new PA!


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