


Episode 200 milestone for “Staying Relevant,” framed as a celebration of growth and small personal changes, plus a long behind-the-scenes look at the podcast’s rise from early struggles to major career wins. It also includes a “quote game” recalling early episodes, plus updates on side projects and personal life (anniversary, streaming, upcoming LA trip). The episode is mostly banter between hosts Sam Thompson and Peter “Wicks” Wicks, with a mid-episode ad for Grow Therapy.
No new guests appear in this episode. A video/WhatsApp message is read from Anna (described as a longtime friend of the pod and “birthed Pam”). They also reference past guests, including Joe Marl/Grace (unclear which), but none are present.
Therapy’s impact is in small moments; Grow Therapy is insurance-covered, average $21/session, sometimes $0, no subscriptions; the podcast has reached 200 episodes and achieved major milestones (Times bestseller, sold out O2, tours, adopted a goat named Neville).
Early “dream guest” spreadsheet (Stormzy, Tom Cruise, Stephen Graham’s agent); first episode handjob quote; Brooklyn Beckham’s ex rumor; Ekansu’s PR flowers story; Tally’s first Twitch stream hitting ~200 viewers; promotional appearances; “shit on your chest” money discussion.
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Learn about the quiet but profound changes that therapy can bring to life.
“Therapy's biggest impact doesn't show up in some dramatic breakthrough.”
The hosts reminisce about their podcasting journey and early challenges.
“What a milestone to hit when we first started this.”
Discussing the financial ups and downs encountered during podcasting.
“If you remember, actually, even like sort of halfway through the first year.”
Recalling key moments, achievements, and personal growth throughout the podcast.
“So with that in mind, Pete's paying money to do it.”
Exploring past guest experiences and the evolution of the podcast guest list.
“Like, we could have only dreamed of awards.”
Learn about the challenges faced in securing guests for early episodes.
“And obviously Sam, you know, reach for the stars, buddy.”
Discover the fun game the hosts created to celebrate their 200th episode.
“So we have got a special 200th episode game, all right?”
Listen to the hosts share memorable quotes and stories from past episodes.
“We had to start fact checking our own host.”
Reflect on the ups and downs of their podcasting journey and ambition.
“We were convinced we were going to be giants of the TV writing world.”
Hear about the absurd and humorous discussions during their lunch breaks.
“That sounds like a children's book, doesn't it?”
The hosts discuss the successful launch and reception of their new series.
“I was obviously on the road with Pete yesterday.”
A behind-the-scenes look at their promotional tour and media appearances.
“I really really do I'm very proud of it and it's not because I'm in it it's not because my name's on it it's because I think we just highlight something really amazing.”
The hosts share personal updates and insights on their friendship.
“I'm pretty sure it was on the, this morning when he was promoting an old series of For Dog's Sakes.”
The hosts joke about creating elaborate lies about one another for interviews.
“he's lost the love of his life and he's falling apart.”
The hosts reflect on their experiences at influencer events and the culture around them.
“I'm going to start doing really intricate shit where like there's a narrative that's going to form over like a month.”
Discussion about personal milestones including anniversaries and celebrations.
The hosts discuss Tally's successful first live streaming experience.
“So yesterday, it was like the card's the most important bit.”
The hosts discuss Tally's first streaming experience and express their pride.
“Mate, for someone who's never done it before, I'm very proud of her.”
The hosts reflect on the journey to 200 episodes and express gratitude to listeners.
“So has it, because you've wanted to do all of that stuff.”
The hosts thank the audience, discuss future episodes, and share heartfelt messages.
“And I'd just like to finish by saying I'm really enjoying your Rust Cordroy cap.”

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0:00Therapy's biggest impact doesn't show up in some dramatic breakthrough. It shows up in the smallest moments. You bite your tongue instead of escalating. You put your phone down instead of firing off that text. You say what you actually mean instead of what would hurt someone else the most. Nobody applauds those moments, but they quietly change your life. That's what growing feels like. And that's exactly what Grow Therapy is here for. Grow is therapy that works, covered by insurance. Sessions average$21 with insurance, and some pay as little as$0, depending on their plan. There are no subscriptions, no long-term commitments.
0:37You just pay per session. Grow connects you with thousands of high-quality, licensed therapists across the U.S., offering both virtual and in-person sessions, nights and weekends. You can search by what matters, like insurance, specialty, identity, or availability. And you can book a therapy session in minutes and begin in as little as two days, not the national 48-day average. See if you could pay as little as$0 for therapy in seconds at growtherapy.com slash ACAST. That's growtherapy.com slash ACAST. growtherapy.com slash ACAST. Availability and coverage vary by state and insurance plan. Welcome to Staying Relevant, the podcast hosted by two bestest of best pals, myself, Sam Thompson, and Peter, James, Jonathan, Joseph, Wicks.
1:32Now, we are on... What day are we on together now? I've been working together. Almost consecutive working. 15 working days together, Sam Thompson, Pete, Wicks, and I'm not dead. Neither am I. It's been close. So this is the main episode which means it comes out on a Monday and you can watch it all visually, sorry on Josh and Kira's YouTube channel from 5pm on Wednesday and then we'll be doing a bonus episode which comes out Thursday audibly which you can watch on Josh and Kira's YouTube channel from 5pm on a Sunday which means you can catch us on a Catch us on a Monday Wednesday Thursday and a Sunday Beautiful Rape review Dool of Back crap you know the score by now there will be swearing if you don't like it Go yourself and anyone around you off Got a full house today as well by the way We have got a full house in the office.
2:17It's been interesting. And the reason we've got a full house is because it's a very special episode. It's a big one. This is a double century. This is episode 200. 200 episodes, everybody. What a milestone to hit when we first started this. Did we think we'd get to this number? Yes, I did. I agreed when we first started this to do six. He did. Oh, my God, he did. he agreed to do six that's so true i said i don't want to do this i'll do six god that's funny i remember i did six and then it became seven and then eight and then 200 i remember that so so little little stroll around down memory lane here i remember the conversation i had with pete just prior when like he was like on the fence and i had called up his agent ellen and i was pleading begging her i went just get him to the studio get him to the studio and i'll do the rest and um and so he gets the studio on day one and he's he can't be asked this when he was in his drinking year as well so he was like he immediately had like a beer it was like 10 a.m had a beer and uh and he goes right you've got an hour okay so he sat in the booth and you remember i had a four sheets of paper printed out which were like crinkling down the mic and he went this is the most shit thing I've ever seen in my life.
3:41Sam says, listen, we're going to do this pod. Don't worry, it's going to be fine. I said, I don't listen to pods. I don't do podcasts. He went, don't worry, I'm going to handle it all. I get there. I'm not joking you. He tried to do the intro for the first time, which hasn't changed in 200 episodes. He goes, oh, God, I'm nervous. He's got this sheet of paper. I said, what's on the paper? You turn it around, nothing. It was a blank sheet of paper that he was just holding for no fucking reason. I actually think you wrote staying relevant on the back in biro. Yeah, mate, it's because we're getting filmed.
4:10But yeah, and it was, it was a fucking mess. Who'd have thought, did you think we'd be here? I knew we'd be here. I hoped we wouldn't. I know when I did, but now you're happy we are. Well, it's financially viable for me now. There we go. And that's how I reeled him in at the start. I went, you're going to make money. No idea. And he did say that. And for the first year, we didn't. We made nothing. If you remember, actually, even like sort of halfway through the first year. Even now, we've made nothing. Yeah, we haven't taken anything out. Do you know what? There was a point where we just started.
4:38This is like a legit thing. And if you are an OG listener, you'll know this. There was a point where we just started Snapchat and Pete was calling to SnapBC. We made two pounds on Snapchat and Pete was in the red. He was spending more money getting to the podcast than he was on making money through the podcast. Staying Relevant cost me. I paid to do Staying Relevant for the first year. Think about that. I'm not even joking. I paid to do it. I lost work because I had to fucking film the fucking thing every week. And it cost me. I literally paid to do it. And now look. And to be honest with you, look at you, I still paid to do it.
5:16Yeah. Nothing's changed. Just more. And do you know as well, it's so funny. So with that in mind, Pete's paying money to do it. He's getting in there, he's getting ever so slightly harder. Because of course we filmed it in West London. And then, do you remember one of our first photo shoots, Pete? And it was, we had to be naked. And do you remember, we had blankets on us. And I was like lying on your lap. It was like for a heat magazine shoot. I've seen that photo. To announce that we had like done this, like, oh, the boys are starting a podcast. It used to be the YouTube banner. I don't remember that at all.
5:51You were in like a paint me like your French girls kind of pose. Yeah. And we were like, I think I was fully naked. and you were like a little bit naked and you were so angry about doing it. And you literally - I have completely erased that from my fucking memory. I wasn't there, but I know the photo. Much with all the trauma throughout my life, it's completely gone and I barely remember anything, but I'm sure it's had, I literally don't have a clue what you're on about. That's fucking mad. Was it? Oh, hold on. Was it that touching finger? Yes, that's exactly what it was. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And do you remember this?
6:20You were in like a faux fur rug. Yes, exactly. Yeah, like a fucking weird sort of hooker. And I remember Pete just sitting there being like, we're never going to make any money at all. And at that point, to be honest with you, I believed it. But I had to lie. I lied to you a lot throughout this podcast to try and get to you here. What was like the episode, like one of the first like five, let's say, that made you think this is going to be shit? I think the first guest. Joe, was it Joe Marl or Grace? Joe, who obviously has his own brilliant podcast, didn't back then. He hadn't done Traitors. He hadn't done all this sort of stuff.
6:57But obviously we've known Joe since the start of this podcast. And, you know, we love him. I'm not entirely sure why he's come back on the podcast. And I'm sure he learned a lot from that podcast and what not to do. Because Sam spat at him during that. I'm not even joking. I sneezed. All right. Sorry, you sneezed. Either way, he had to pull your saliva and spit out of his fucking beard. At that point, I thought, what am I doing? But, look, here we are, 200 eps later. And what a fucking ride it's been, which we'll get onto in a little bit. But the team celebrated in a beautiful way this morning for me.
7:33I walked into the office. It was lovely. And found my desk and chair wrapped in wrapping paper. Apparently it's killing two birds with one stone because we're also 13 Mondays or Wednesdays away from Christmas. No, we are not. Are we actually? So, you know, that national holiday that everyone celebrates, the 13 before Christmas. so I then spent 10 minutes unwrapping my desk and the baubles on my pot plant why did I not get a desk wrap? because it was a great present from all of us including you so thanks ever so much because as we all know I love Christmas so nothing like celebrating it 13 weeks early you know why not bring in the old Christmas spirit but you know what I'll be fair nice of you nice thought and it did make me feel quite Christmassy.
8:22I like what you've done there. But yeah, there's loads of things that have happened since we started this pod that I think neither of us thought would happen. Did we ever think that you would win the jungle? No, I told you on the pod as well. I think it was one of the first few eps you said that your dream was to do the jungle. Yeah. Just to do it. Yeah. Let alone win it. I think I remember saying in the first couple of episodes that my worst nightmare would be strictly. I did it but all of that has happened in the period that we've had this podcast we've kind of grown up together career wise, we haven't grown up in any way shape or form, sort of maturity levels but career wise we're in a very different position now to what we were maybe it's down to this pod I definitely think it's got a big part to play and all the people listening to it I remember Pete when I told you about the jungle in this pod, do you remember when I cut my finger?
9:15I jumped on you and slammed my finger and then sliced it open it's like bleeding all over Pete whilst I'm jumping all over him and and you were so happy for me and then literally the year later like almost to the day you went I'm doing Strictly and you brought and you brought out that that glitter ball mate and it was just it was all of those things and all those pivotal moments over the last few years have happened on this pod and this has given this pod has given us an opportunity to talk about that. It's given us a right to reply on stuff. We've shared all of that in, not necessarily in these chairs, but in these chairs, you know what I mean?
9:54Make-ups, break-ups. Make-ups, break-ups, fucking, you know, all sorts of stuff. Life-changing, life-altering things. To the point that when we first started, we were renting a little shitty studio and it was costing. Now we have two studios. We've got an office. We have a whole team of people that rely on us. Yeah, that's terrifying. We actually just had a team meeting. Yeah, it's kind of mad. We've had a Times best-selling book. We've sold out the O2. We've done tours. We adopted a goat. Yeah, adopted a goat. Neville! Went to Vegas. We went to Vegas. We've done a fucking lot in, what, three years?
10:35God damn it. It's about three years. Three, three and a half years. Yeah, you started on Halloween. And Pete's so right as well. Like, mate, we've grown up, like, in terms of, like, what we've done with our lives. Yeah, but, mate, think of where you are. It was only last week that I was giving you an award, you know? Like, we could have only dreamed of awards. But some things have never changed. Yeah, I mean, the way it doesn't do it. The way in which it was presented. And what I also love is that no one cares I've got an award anymore. It's brilliant. And, you know, people have forgotten the reason.
11:06You just fell off a chair. So, which is lovely. But like I said then, that's one of the reasons that I wouldn't change doing this ever because I get to do it with you. I get to do all of this stuff with my best mate. And despite the fact that I despised the idea of it three, four years ago, it's my favourite day of the week every week. I knew it. It's my favourite thing to do. And most of that is because of the team and you, obviously. Well done everybody It's brilliant It's a right little love in here Isn't it? Bloody hell Yeah We reached out to A few of your first guests A few of who you mentioned Just then Yeah Oh have they done like a compilation?
11:52Of sorts Where we were like Oh should we get some video messages Are they going to come in are they? Oh no No Not this time Asking for like a well done And a congrats And so we got one back Got one back? Out of like three or four And And it's been WhatsApp to you. Yay. My darling boys, Peter, Samuel. Oh, my goodness, guys. I am so genuinely unbelievably proud of you. I know we are always firm to take the piss. But on this occasion, I'm going to be sentimental. 200 episodes is huge. I'm so enormously proud of what the pair of you have created. We're staying relevant and the rest of your team. It's just crazy, isn't it?
12:34of everything that was born, you know, from meeting on a low little dating show eight, nine years ago. I am so proud and honoured to have been a part of the inception of Pam and Happy 200 Eps and here's the next 200. And boys, I am so, so very fortunate to be your friend, being your confident and, you know, always will be there for the pair of you. This has turned into some sort of weird, weird, like eulogy. But anyway, it is what it is. Love you boys. Go celebrate. I know you will. Hard. I love Anna. What a beautiful, beautiful lady. And do you know what? Anna has been in there since the start of Sam's, Sam and I's kind of friendship.
13:19She's been on the pod. She's a friend of the pod. Couldn't have got a better person. Slightly disappointed with everyone else. Yeah, do you know what? It's funny. Anna never lets us down. Never lets us down. The loveliest lady on the planet. And like those words, as Pete just said, are so beautiful. And you're right. She literally birthed Pam, as we've said many a time before. Let's not keep with the Pam. Yeah, no, we are Pam, really. Oh, we are kind of Pam. I feel like we should start that again. No, I think we should. I'm not. We've sort of kicked that one to the curb a little bit. Thankfully.
13:47No, we need to bring that back. No. Yeah, 34 and 37, I think it's probably time. You've stayed true to your roots, though. We have stayed true. Like, it's always been a struggle. I mean, that is, Pippa makes an incredible point there. We have stayed true to the roots. You know, we ourselves think we've grown. we struggled to get guests back then and now we can't even get a fucking video so we've actually gone backwards it's not even about getting them in the studio we can't even get a fucking we can't even get a whatsapp now you know what though do you remember pete we do just mention it but like the the list we had of the people that we asked to be on the podcast when this poll first came out oh we actually mentioned this on the pod we had it we had another it was another a4 sheet no it It was a spreadsheet of dream guests.
14:28All right. And obviously Sam, you know, reach for the stars, buddy. Reach for the stars. He was up there with Stormzy, who we thought we were going to get the first series. And I think at one point, I'm sure at one point you were Tom Cruise. You know, there were some serious names that you'd put out there. We slowly dampened these spirits. Yeah. That was like, it was the red markers next to the name. When we used to get the replies. We'd get the replies. The replies were awful. Like, they'd literally be like not doing podcasts at the moment. Or one of them was, it was Stephen Graham's agent. It was Stephen Graham's agent.
15:04He went, I love the boys. I don't think Stephen knows who they are. One of my favourite ones is, I think it might have been Louis Ferou, who's a fucking dream. And to be fair, this was, I don't think it would have changed now. But it was, don't think this is the right fit. Yeah, nice. Yeah, yeah, yeah. That's the same as like polite decline. Well, that's the same as, come on, don't take the piss. But look, you know, again, we've learned lots of things over the years, one of which is that we love a game. We do. So we have got a special 200th episode game, all right? So we've got quotes that have previously been said, and it's which one of us said them, all right?
15:46So I'm going to read some quotes. I don't know the answers, all right? Are you ready? Yeah. First quote, Sam. I wonder who this could be I know it in the first five letters I'll give you a handjob not in a weird way but in this is a fun way give me a slutty handjob to the camera a sultry handjob oh sorry
16:11I'm not great with the red writing that's okay can I tell you who I think so wait one of you said one line of this each yeah I know Pete said the second one I remember the exact episode we did this and I said it like this, I'd give you a handjob. Not in a weird way, in a like, this is fun way. Right. That was the first ever episode. And then Pete, I was shocked to hear Pete ask you to give a sultry handjob. How would you give a handjob? And he went, look down the camera and give a handjob. Jesus Christ. I remember it. Pete, that was our first ever episode. You were drunk. Some of these, if you go back, might be a struggle with memory, including the naked photo shoot.
16:50um things have changed in my life all right um the next one i dated brooklyn beckham's ex imagine if she picked me instead of brooklyn beckham now i again know the answer to this one and i'm sure based on this most people would think that could be me it's not samuel sure i must have lied that was a lie that's a stone cold down the mic lie that I've obviously thought I could get away with. Incredible. We had to start fact checking our own host. That is wild work from younger me. I can't believe her. That is so much. So the honest answer to that, right, is I matched a girl who ended up dating Brooklyn Beckham on Rhea and she didn't reply to me.
17:44And you've gone with dated. And I've obviously. Imagine she picked me. Let's just clear up some rumours now. are you actually with telly that is awful god wow all right the next one i i got invited to ekinsu's o polly launch party it's all just me now is that sam that's sam i remember i went to that i bought it was in a very excited manner yeah over the moon you went i went and bought her flowers you went to the launch party you bought her flowers i was like obsessed with Yeah, I remember. Not in like a sexual way. I had a girlfriend, but like, but, but, but. Did you? Who knows? I remember, P.
18:23Sorry, not to just half of it like this, but I remember I was so obsessed with Love Island and I got a reach out from the PR who was hanging. I thought you were going to say a reach around. Oh, God. From Ekansu's PR. I wasn't even Ekansu herself. From Ekansu's PR. But as if she's reaching out to you. I don't know. I was pretty, I was pretty like, they're pretty vocal on stories about how much like I thought she was great. And it was her and Davide together. And I got invited and I said to my girlfriend at the time, I said like, we should probably go. And even my girlfriend at the time went, you're not bringing flowers.
18:54I went, no, they need to know that we like them. And I remember, this is so bad. I remember standing, she's getting photos taken and I've got her flowers like by my chest and I'm standing next to my girlfriend waiting for her to finish her like photo round with like the fans. And then literally went, hi, these are for you. Just want to say congratulations and good luck with all your endeavors. Came with the flowers. I went, this is Zara, by the way. In true Zara. See you later. And we literally just left. I went all the way, gave Ekansu flowers and left. So basically, yeah, you turned up as Interflora.
19:35Oh, mate, that was so good. But she's a nice girl. Can I say a couple, please? Because I feel like... Please do, yeah. Okay. We were convinced we were going to be giants of the TV writing world. That's Sam. But we are still shit fuck sticklebacks. That's you. That's me. Correct. There you go. Nice, nice, nice, nice. Do you know what? It's so funny because I've known you for so long, Pete. There are certain words that Pete says. The only person I've ever heard say the word stickleback is you. Really? You quite like that word. I love a stickleback. You do, yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I'm good with that.
20:08I was completely normal I got in the cab got out of the cab and then thought I'm fucked and then threw up that's you are you a throw up I think it might be me it was you it was the second ever episode and you said it's the most hungover you've ever been in your life for the whole episode I remember it you came you were a shadow of yourself then yeah it's not you weren't oh and he was wearing a hoodie he was wearing a hoodie with the hood up wasn't he yeah he's not well yeah yeah you weren't well at all then yeah yeah that's when I started fear of your health there was a lot of days back in the day that i wasn't well and you say a lot of things that you would never say now what like what you're just very open right yeah okay well this one actually off the back of that um would we ever get a porn star on the pod that sam i and you know what i still to this day am fighting the good fight right all right okay look the next This one.
21:03I went to an event with a very good friend of mine who has a very successful show. She's very talented and people like her. She has leapfrogged us. That's Pete. And who is that about? I went to an event with a very good friend of mine who has a very successful... It's about Liv Atwood, isn't it? Yeah, it's got to be, isn't it? Is it about Liv? Correct. It was either going to be Vicky or Liv. I mean, yes, listen. And she's... Still climbing. So far beyond us, it's a joke. Still climbing. Honestly, it's so far beyond. We can't even see her. I'll tell you what, it's like when people wind up those frogs and they only bounce for like a certain amount of time until sort of like the wind powers down.
21:43We powered down about two years ago. Lynn's just still on Duracell. She's the Duracell bunny and we're the equivalent of Morrison's own brand. Yeah, mate, we're like the caterpillars that never could. That sounds like a children's book, doesn't it? Caterpillars that never could. And that's why. Well, it could be. If we write one, are we writing a children's book? Who knows? Pam the Caterpillar that never could. The Caterpillar. Do you know what the best thing is? Normally in a children's book, it's like the Caterpillar that could. So it's like the Caterpillar that, everyone's down on the Caterpillar, but eventually it like transforms into a butterfly.
22:25Some of you kids need to realise you're never going to fucking make it. Life will be a failure. And the quicker you do realise, the better. the caterpillar that couldn't and that's where it ends if the caterpillar actually got eaten by a bird and just and his life got cut short to be fair that is the thing if i wrote a children's book it would be sort of the circle of life and it would be everything dies
22:47we were talking to someone recently on this show we were talking about he basically there's a guy who's taking a substance right and we're like they're talking about like you know what that does and how it affects and he goes yeah do you know what like it it is what it is and he goes could kill you it's just like it went so quiet oh guys you've got to watch this show by the way it's like it's weird but in the best way it's it's it's kind of fun pete's favorite part of actually of the show i thought we were gonna we've done 15 days in the in on the trot um and i thought after this moment pete might actually just stop it at 15 was our lunch break you really enjoyed.
23:26You really enjoyed the lunch break we had yesterday. Listen, we're up and down the fucking country. It's fucking, whilst trying to do everything else, sometimes you just want to get shit done. What you don't want to do is have an extended lunch break so that Sam and the entire production team can discuss how much money it would take to allow someone to shit on their chest and what location it would be in. Like, I'm not even joking. I literally went, and this is what happens most of the lunchtimes, it starts, I wander off and go, fuck's sake, and I go and sit on a wall. I don't even eat, and I'll just smoke, and I'll just watch Sam entertain the production crew with, I've got one for you.
24:08Would you rather be an inch in your mum or have your dad an inch in you? So your mum's in front, your dad's behind. Are you moving an inch forward or an inch back? and this is this is and i i'm not joking you i sit there yesterday i sat next to a wheelie bin and just watched right and that was a question that got asked i literally went for fuck sorry he's just pieces chain smoking these bins and every now and then you just chip in and be like well yeah and he'd actually give an answer he'd give a concise answer and get involved but then pull back over like he'd say like three words and be like oh i wouldn't do it for that much and then back out for the chat again it's like you know and so people say it must be lovely working with your best mate not 15 days straight just want to let everyone know the video the camera guys are loving it they were loving it yeah loving that chat yeah i mean they yeah i also So I will say this.
25:10I'm happy to do this, actually. You know, we've got no PR here at the moment. So my number for a juice on the chest. Not a... Oh, a juice. Just someone taking a number two on the chest. Two and a half million. Which is incredible. No, no, no, no, no, no, no. Let's... No, no, no, no, no. It's the conversation start. No. Now, let's unpack it. No. All I'm going to say, and then we're stopping this conversation, because I'm not doing it for fucking two days in a row, is that that number has dropped quite considerably since yesterday. All right, yesterday we started at a 50 mil. It dropped to 20. It's now gone all the way down to two and a half.
25:48I reckon by next week, if anyone's up for it, he'll do it for a tenner. Wait, really quickly, Pippa, was that too high? No, I thought that was too high. What are you taking a shit on the chest? My God, I can't. There's not even a weenie bin for me. Fuck me, I've got a vape. Crack on. I just think that's quite high. Give us a number. Because whatever I say, I'm going to regret. No. Okay, fine, fine. We'll leave it there. But it is a great conversation starter. It really, really is. At near 40, you don't go to work and then over lunch discuss how much money it would take for someone to shit on you.
26:26I don't know many people that are doing that. Mate, even the sound he was getting involved. The sound he's like 50. And he was like, yeah. Sean is no. Why have you thrown strays at Sean? Is he not 50? Well, it doesn't matter how old he is. This is a great job. This is what we do, man. I don't even know if his name's Sean. Yeah, I was going to say, that's a bold. You said that with Panache as well. That he might not be sure. Scott. For Dog's Sake has made a return. Season four is out. What a segue from shit to my show.
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28:31Also, actually, so that, so obviously it came out two nights, two nights ago. I was obviously on the road with Pete yesterday. And so I was there, I was on the ground when we got, I'll let Pete tell you, but I was on the ground when he got the preliminary figures through. Let's just say it's looking good. So we launched Monday. I've said it before, it's a tough one, that kind of Series 4 thing, isn't it? What do they call it? it's tough series four tough series oh right that's the net but yeah because you get to a point where it's like are people kind of do they still want it do they still want the fucking content like you know you put more kind of I don't know I feel like there's almost more pressure a little bit you know what I mean but yes it's been received very well so I'm very very thankful four episodes are on streaming and almost every message I've had they've watched all four binged it binged there's another four coming very very soon because it's an 8 ep series but I am still gonna do this thing where I say please share it and please tell everyone about it I genuinely and not in a kind of wankerish way think it's the best series that we've done and I absolutely love it and I think it's a very good show I really really do I'm very proud of it and it's not because I'm in it it's not because my name's on it it's because I think we just highlight something really amazing.
30:01So I would love people to kind of share it. I'm so grateful for everyone that has sent me beautiful messages. Obviously I was heavy on the promo run. We did the one show, we've done Capital, we've done Heart, we've done This Morning. And as you all know, I despise doing those sort of things. But it's all for a great thing. I've made a very good friend along the way because I did the one show with him and then saw him this morning, Sir Michael Palin. We're like that now. What a fucking great guy. He was in the same time slot as me on Monday. So there was a little bit of rivalry. Oh, God. Yeah, a little bit of rivalry.
30:39You send him your figures. You go, how about these big guys? No, I punched him in the face. No, no, he's fucking great. But yeah, it's one of them. Although I've just heard that on this morning there was some sort of writing error where they showed a picture of me in a thing and underneath it, rather than my name, I was called Chicken Leek Pie. No, it was a photo of a pie. Oh, so Pete Wicks is coming up and there was a pie instead. Nice, nice, nice. He's getting into cooking. I don't know if that's a reference to me being fat, who ate all the pies. Yeah, I like that from them. Little dig from this morning.
31:07Little dig from this morning. Little daytime TV dig. But I'm not having, it seems to be daytime. I don't know if people aren't ready for me. The last time I did sort of daytime earlier in the year, I was mistaken with Joe Wicks and introduced as Essex Hardman, which we all know. Who was that from? We all know where that came from. Who did that? I can't remember. I'm pretty sure it was on the, this morning when he was promoting an old series of For Dog's Sakes. This morning just fucking hammering him. Someone in the gallery is like, my favourite, honestly, for Ben Shepard to also like, to be like, Essex hard.
31:48Honestly, I'm sure, I'm sure they do it on purpose. The thing is, obviously, we know Ben and Kat, who I did this morning really, really well. and Lauren and JB and Lauren and JB who do the one show all really nice, love them but this morning, obviously we spoke about the dog show and Liv obviously, you know, is hosted this morning, she's very much in that ITV kind of family it was when Kat went so, obviously since we've seen you hard launched still going about the kind of hard launch but it was when she went, and with tongues on this morning, because glibbered by a picture and i thought jesus christ i'm just never it's the the lift thing's come up quite a lot yeah um you know heart with amanda and that it was when are you proposing yeah nice quite new guys quite new we're nowhere near that kind of stage so fucking slow yourselves down um but yeah the promo tour has been it's been great and it's continuing over the next couple of weeks i've got more to do and sunday brunches and fucking all sorts of sunday brunch but um but Yeah, it's all for grazing.
32:53But more than anything, I need you guys to kind of help me with the show because that would be amazing. Another thing that came up quite a lot and comes up in every interview I do, no matter what, is you. We are kind of joint at the hip. I did sort of tell them how you were doing now that I'm in a relationship. The fact that you'd lost the love of your life, me. Did anyone actually ask that? Yes, Kat and Ben. How's Sam doing with your new relationship? And I said, well, it's tough for Sam. he's lost the love of his life and he's falling apart. Well, you know, I then went on to say that you are a mess in terms of your health and biological age.
33:35You did not. Yeah, I said, we've been having biological ages done, Sam's a mess. He's not wrong. That's the worst thing about him. But just a little bit of friendly ban. Obviously, it comes across better when you're there.
33:50he's a mess and he had his genetics he's falling apart he's lost the love of his life and he's a fucking mess oh god um but yeah it comes up everywhere does it happen for you when you do interviews do they ask about me every single interview I've ever done yeah I love it I do you know what I think actually I think we're now at a time and I think you've given me a good a good good idea here I think we should start lying about each other now we've discussed this before whether we just start saying how's that? Dead. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I'm going to start doing really intricate shit where like there's a narrative that's going to form over like a month.
34:25He's had a tough time recently because where he normally buys his wigs is closed down so he's going through a stage where he's just trying out like a different month. Oh, I shouldn't have said that. Oh, fuck. Oh, God, he's going to kill me. Oh, no, can we cut that out? Is this pre-recorded or is this live? Oh, mate, we can have a lot of fun. Yeah, how's Sam? Tanny's left him. Yeah. Oh, God. Oh. Oh. What have I done? That's going to be our next thing. Our next thing. So if anything comes in the press, next time we do any sort of press run, which we actually will probably do for the show coming up, to be fair.
34:57Well, we'll be doing that next year, but we'll be doing a press run pre that for something else. Yes, true. True. Oh, actually, also, I'm doing a press run. I'm doing a press run for Unpacked, so that's when I get to do it on my own. So I can literally say that I'm going to make so many lies about Pete. Oh, I better find something to promote. How's Pete going to feel that you're going away from it? Well, he shat himself, actually, when I told him. He was so upset, he let his bowels go. Again. But, yeah, it was good. Listen, I've had a busy week as well. Yeah, you've had a really busy week. Listen, I've been filming.
35:37I've been fucking podcasting. I've been to an influencer event, guys. God, you went to a Primark event, didn't you? There was a 360 photo booth. I sat and had dinner. Did you do the 360? There was goodie bags. There was, I did, I did the 360 photo booth with Jamie Winston and Dan Edgar. So, good scene. Fast in the past. Yeah, I haven't seen Dan for ages. You're also there with Tommy Fury, who obviously you get along with really well. Yeah, no, do you know what? It was actually a great event. Great event. I actually, I'll be honest with you, and I've said it, but I really enjoyed myself. my opinion on the influencer I'm not very good at it I'm not an influencey type of fucking person um but I it was actually quite fun you said I'm not good at it I'm terrible I love the way it's a thing I'm not good at it like the influencer thing would you ever go to Mykonos on like a brand trip I'm just saying brand trips are not the they're not the the one for me you know when like the the girls go to like Mykonos Ibiza like Mallorca and they have like a villa and it's like right guys so the next three hours is just for content like just we have a pink flamingo in the pool and it's like just just content content content get it all out there and i imagine i have done these trips before no you have not i've never i including pink flamingo at the wiki woo all i can imagine pete tell me if this is right it was 11 this was years ago it was about 10 or 11 female influencers what brand uh doll beauty and i was the only male there you go there's the doll beauty shoot are you oh my god you're he's the he's in the life can i ask you some questions about that specific photo did you do you know what the worst part of that is is so i did that not long after i got back from the island where i lost three and a half stone i was about nine stone when i did it and they wanted me to be a lifeguard when if there was a gust of wind i'd have gone um but yeah listen i've lived a life buddy i've lived a life wow that is to be honest with you i'm my my words have been sucked out of my mouth after seeing that photo of you pete though with those in at wiki woo listen i don't i don't um i don't know i'm a jack of all trades master of fuck all he's been there he's been there he's done it but look it's been um it's not all about me it's um it's been a very big week for you as well obviously you and i've been kind of filming and loving it and we've been doing it um but in the background of that you've been very very busy um we're going to get onto kind of one of your new kind of work commitments uh in a little bit but pre that your personal life has been exceptionally busy as well um you've had some big kind of monumental occasions uh including your one year anniversary
38:26um what did you do to celebrate uh what i did celebrate we i just went for dinner mate you know how busy we are at the moment i literally couldn't do anything i got some flowers wrote a a card took it to an italian restaurant in the evening nice um that was all i could muster well listen it's good that you got the flowers the cards which i heard you yesterday actually saying to everyone um again when we were filming listen the cards are the most important bits about the words um apparently you forgot to get one no a little birdie tells me what's i told you that yeah i said you have anything funny about your one year with sam for the podcast and she went Yeah, he forgot to get me a card and didn't write one.
39:05No, I did. I just... Well, Sam. So yesterday, it was like the card's the most important bit. That's the most important bit. I just... Just... Well, come on. Just two. Just like Brooklyn Beckham's... Do you know what this is reminding me of? Brooklyn Beckham's... Yes. Can I just quickly... Oh, Jackanory over there loves a story. Can I actually say... May I just quickly... No, it's because... Do you remember what we're talking about? Our actual anniversary was on a day we were working. So I physically couldn't do anything for her. So I said to her, I went, look, can we move the anniversary to like Wednesday night?
39:38Because at least I can take you to dinner. As in the dinner? Yeah. And then she was like, yeah, sure. But I've got you a card for this day. And so like I said, I mean, she made me the most beautiful. I actually had a little tear in my eye. I never normally get emotional at something. So did she because she thought you didn't care. And then, well, actually, no, because I then said to her, look, I've got like a plan for you. Can I just push it down the road by like three days? And then when I got her a card, two little hedgehogs, I wrote her something and she burst into tears and she loved it. So, yeah, actually, I won't take any slander.
40:11It was a wonderful, wonderful one-year anniversary. Well, as long as you say so. No, no, she loved it. Yeah, what did you do? Cut the steaks for the veggie? No, I took her out. Took her out? Okay. No scallops? She didn't cook? Took her to our first ever dinner date restaurant. And what else are you going to do? Like, obviously, the card and flowers, but, you know, are you going to renovate the entire house to celebrate? No. I'm taking to LA though. Oi! Taking to LA. There you go. Off to LA. Yeah. And yeah, so we're doing that in a couple of weeks. We're off to LA. We're going to spend five days together over there, which is going to be nice.
40:44And will it just be you two or are you inviting your PA as well? Just us two. Just us two. Because Liv, hi darling. We love you. It's so nice to have you as part of the team. Now, let's get on to something even bigger. Yeah. Something you've been talking about for a very long time. streaming. Oh, Tally did her first stream last night. Now, I unfortunately was busy, so couldn't log on or whatever you do with it. However, Pippa managed to log on, which was nice to Tally's first stream. What exactly happens on these streams? She was just like chatting away, live streaming, answering questions in the comments.
41:25So it's kind of like a bit of a live. Like a live vlog. but when you logged on Pippa Sam was in the chair yeah Sam was sat in the chair talking so basically this is a big moment by the way not for me it's got nothing to do with me but for Tally she's always wanted to do Twitch and I bought her a computer for it which is set up in the upstairs room I recognise the bed set it all up for her and everything so she had a chance to do it and she wanted to she was terrified that she wouldn't have any viewers and so So she got 200 viewers on her first stream. I believe that's good. Mate, for someone who's never done it before, I'm very proud of her.
42:04So she, yeah, she did her first stream, got 200 viewers. And then I saw Pippa Morgan commented. And I'm so grateful for that, by the way. It was so sweet. Pippa logged in. Like, I don't even think you'd do that for me, to be fair. And she logged in and she wrote something in there. She was like, really proud or like slay or something like that. Slay queef. I think I said, hey, go Tally. Hey, go Tally. But how lovely is that? And I really appreciate that. And it was really, really lovely. And, Pete, I'd like you to do one at some point as well, if you could just log in. I don't have a... Slay queef or anything you want.
42:34I don't have an itch or a kicker or whatever it is. Yeah, but it's easy. It's okay. I made one last night. It's super quick. Yeah, I'm not going to. I'll text her. Yeah, I'm not. Yeah, no. Doesn't even bother to try and let you down gently. No. Tally, I love you, darling. I'll text you. Well done, babe. You know, I'll do it in my medium, which is podcast. But she also, you're right, I was in the chair, and I was like, I actually left her at one point because I went, look, I'm making it about myself here, but I just wanted to. Well, that was good of you. No, but you know what it is? It's because I really wanted it to do so well, so I was trying to like bring the energy, and I was like, ah, and I went, I've literally made this my stream, so I left.
43:17So has it, because you've wanted to do all of that stuff. Oh, it's actually made me want to do it, yeah. Right, so are we going to get sort of, are we going to get some joint? Don't have the time, mate. you know I don't have the time. I've got so much going on. I don't have the time, but it looks so fun. And I'm just super proud of her. So do you know what? I'm going to plug her show on here. Talita Belinska on Twitch. You're going to have to spell that. I'm going to be honest with you. I love her, but... T-A-L... That's a rough one for her. Her name's not exactly Sue Smith, is it? T-A-L-I-T-H-A.
43:49And Belinska... Oh, God. B-A-L-I-N-S-K-A. And yeah. Being the world, I imagine most of our listeners and watchers won't know what Twitch is, but if you do, we'd love it. Yeah, because get on Twitch under her name. Love that. Very proud of you, Tally. Very proud of you. Right, that's it for the 200th episode. It's been a rollercoaster of emotions. It really has. What a great way to celebrate. And I'd just like to finish by saying I'm really enjoying your Rust Cordroy cap. Thank you. Ta-da. We love you so much. thank you so much for listening to this pod by the way 200 fucking episodes that's no mean feat and to celebrate i may piss in the chair if we don't leave yeah yeah so i'm gonna now long this out uh no in all seriousness thank you we adore you and it's the first it's the first 200 of many many many more so thank you so much can we get to 300 that's the question we're all asking ourselves we're gonna get to 600 and then we'll die and then we'll be dead enjoy your journey wherever you're taking it.
44:49Buses, trains, tubes, cars, vans, lorries, police cars, ambulances, fire trucks, bicycles, cyclists, motorbike lists, uh, quad bikes, uh, oh, tractors also, um, steamrollers, planes, pilots
45:15gliders, paragliders hand gliders skateboarders longboarders and everything in between we love you so much thank you or good morning wherever you're listening to your podcast you might be listening to it at night or the morning hope you've had a good day hope your relationship's going well hope the relationship's going well if you're not in a relationship For those listening, Pete left 10 minutes ago. By the way, you don't need to be in a relationship. Pete's not even in the room. Fuck them. If they've cheated on you, fuck them off straight away. I'm leaving the room now too. And if they haven't cheated on you, love them dearly.
45:49And Josh is turning off the cameras. Hopefully your parents are still with us. If they're not, that's fine too. And you end whenever you want, Josh. You know? And I hope you're in good health, person. Yeah. Well done. Whatever it is you're doing. This has been a Staying Relevant production.
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It's our 200th episode and Sam and Pete take a trip down memory lane. The boys look back on their wildest moments, test each other’s memories, and celebrate how far they've come since the early episodes.
Pete gets absolutely roasted on daytime TV, discusses how Sam has changed since Pete got loved up, and the boys reveal their ridiculous plan to lie about each other in interviews.
And... Sam CRASHES his girlfriend Tally’s first-ever Twitch stream
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00:00 Introduction
01:02 Celebrating our 200th episode
06:10 The team celebrates how far they've come
10:24 A former guest celebrates the podcast's journey
14;14 Testing the boys with a memory quote. game
25:48 The boys' new series
38:10 Sam's girlfriend launches on Twitch
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