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Staying Relevant

15 Jul 2026 · 33m · 19 chapters

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Do the Thomas Brothers get Botox?!

In short

This bonus episode of Staying Relevant is a Q&A with the Thomas Brothers (Sam Thompson and Pete Wicks absent; Pete is on holiday) and focuses on: brotherly conflict and reconciliation, being “out of touch” with Gen Z, parenting/romantic scenarios, Scott’s relationship and “manifestation,” aging and Botox, and how they stay relevant in a competitive entertainment industry.

Key claims

the podcast helps them avoid long fallouts by talking and having “no phones/no distractions”; Scott says he “manifested” his girlfriend after a Dr. Joe Dispenza retreat; Botox makes Adam feel he needs more, but he says it makes him look like a “horror character”/“wax figure.”

Notable examples

a six-month argument after a hungover charity football miss; a post-podcast heated argument leading to a shoulder injury after climbing electric gates; Logan Paul/KSI fight in LA where Pete demands “do not speak to me for an hour.”

Guests

the Thomas Brothers—Sam Thompson and Pete Wicks (with Pete absent on holiday).

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Chapters

0:12

Night Out Stories

The hosts share entertaining anecdotes from their recent night out experiences.

“They combine GLP-1s to quiet the food noise, with healthy habits that help you keep it quiet, even if you get off the meds.”
2:16

Night Out Stories

The hosts share entertaining anecdotes from their recent night out experiences.

“I think I'm good fun, to be honest with you.”
4:05

Brothers in Arms

Discussion on the dynamics of brotherhood and resolving conflicts.

“I've sometimes, like, got in my boxers before because I'm like, what the fuck are you doing?”
9:40

Insights on Podcasting

The brothers discuss how their podcasting experience has strengthened their bond.

“One time we were in LA and this is years ago and we were watching the Logan Paul KSI fight live in the stadium.”
12:24

Generational Perspectives

The conversation shifts to the hosts' views on generational trends and language.

“And we find out things about each other that we never would normally talk about.”
14:00

Childhood Memories and Friendships

Reflecting on childhood experiences and friendships with their mates.

“And they both got me down together for the first time and I got backed out the door and I looked at them and they looked at each other and thought, I'm not going to win this anymore.”
14:37

Understanding Gen Z

Discussing who among them is most out of touch with Gen Z culture.

“as you want to the next one actually is who's most out of touch with Gen Z?”
15:19

Parenting Perspectives

Exploring their roles as parents and how they relate to their children.

“and you know, we've got HR and all this kind of shit.”
16:09

Make-Believe Daughters

A humorous discussion about their imagined daughters and parenting scenarios.

“Are they allowed, like in the future, because me and Peter have make-believe daughters.”
17:56

Dating Daughters and First Dates

Conversations about their daughters dating and their protective instincts as fathers.

“And Scarlett thinks she's clever, right?”
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19:52

Finding Love

Scott shares his experience of finding love and the significance of manifesting.

“And Ryan was telling me that I've got to stay in his spare bedroom.”
21:39

Gaming with Partners

Discussing their experiences gaming with their partners and the dynamics it creates.

“The whole time I was there, it was like meditating five hours a day and I was meditating on my dream girl.”
23:50

Gaming with Partners

Discussing their experiences gaming with their partners and the dynamics it creates.

“Midi is a virtual care platform built for women by women and offers specialised hormone care from trained clinicians.”
25:20

Realizations of Aging

Conversations about aging, parenting, and feelings of becoming less cool.

“So you're literally like, fuck, I'm now like, I'm an old dad.”
28:00

Botox Experiences and Personal Choices

Discussion about the perceptions and experiences with Botox among the hosts.

“I had Botox once and I, so it looks good on your face actually, Adam.”
29:36

Height and Insecurities

Humorous take on height insecurities and experiences within their industry.

“And you all got up, and all four of them are short.”
31:00

Staying Relevant in a Competitive Industry

Insights on how to maintain relevance in the entertainment industry.

“Now, just to let you know, me and Pete do it every single day.”
32:58

Appreciation for Podcasting

Hosts express gratitude for their podcasting journey and the community built around it.

“Because like, you know, I left Corrie and I was like, oh, I wasn't really doing anything.”
34:36

Closing Remarks and Acknowledgments

Concluding the episode with thanks and reflections on their experience together.

“I really hope Pete listens to this podcast because it's beautiful that you guys are saying all of those things.”
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1:42Welcome to Stang, man. You can hear the laughs. You can hear the jovial nature of the chats. The Thomas brothers are still here, sat on this very sofa. for Pete is unfortunately not with us. He is still on holiday. He's still on holiday somewhere on a sun lounger. Please put up, put your hands together again for the Thomas Brothers. We're back, baby. Bonus episode. They're not fucking leaving. We're not going nowhere. We're going nowhere. If they didn't live in Manchester, this would be dangerous far away because I feel like we would be in each other's pockets. We might ask you that question, actually.

2:14What are you like on a night out? I think I'm good fun, to be honest with you. I look at Pippa because we were actually, we did the trick awards last week and we went and watched the football afterwards and we went and we had quite a few drinks actually to be fair we went to my neck of the woods and um i had pippa on my shoulders i was going for it we saw people with the buzz balls yeah buzz balls mate dude they're 13 they're fucking mental they're on they mate pippa's like yeah just have a buzz ball i went oh i don't know it's a bit early for that isn't it she went oh it's only two percent so i literally necked a buzz ball it's 13 yeah it blew my you mean it blew my throat my throat afterwards You know when you're like, oh, that's gone down.

2:51And I was like, wow, I'm starting to feel like I could have a cigarette. Oh, no. It's all going down here. You won as well, though, didn't you? The Trick Awards. We did. We won a Trick Awards. Amazing, man. Unbelievable. This bonus episode is slightly different. We get quite a few questions. We get emails in. Actually, I just do a little call to action. Look at me doing a Pete Wicks. Do you know what? Actually, I'm going to do this entire intro like Pete Wicks. Welcome to Staying Running the Podcast with Sam Thompson and Pete fucking Wicks. The episode contains swearing, adult themes, occasional consumption of alcohols.

3:22If you don't like that, go fuck yourself, you pricks. That's his slogan. Remember, as well as listening, you can watch us now too. The full video is released on YouTube every Friday after the audio is out every Monday. That means it comes out, everybody, on... Monday, Wednesday, Thursday, Sunday. Yeah, what's weird? If Pete makes people do this rendition, and do you know what I've realised? He doesn't do it himself. It's a power trip. Yeah. He looks at everyone else doing it. it's like he's a schoolmaster everyone's really enthusiastic though they're like man no Adam by the end of it and he listens to these pods and he'll know we're saying this by the end of it we're all sat there going fuck it I can't can't keep doing this and also you can feature in this bonus episode send your emails in and by doing that you can email the best because Pete normally says the worst the best email that is in all of the land I would say hello at srproductions.co.uk wow like it well done well done smashed it Sam I thought there was there was good because there's an exclamation mark after that on there but I think you just wanted that to be said with a little bit of sort of goose and gander yeah a bit of pizzazz thank you very much I love how much Sam is always looking at Pippa as I say haven't I taken it too far so for anyone listening if I say anything about my arsehole or I say anything about like something that is slightly or Pete is the same actually to be fair I will literally turn to Pippa and be like have we said too much Adams are like Sam and Pete basically and we tell him to behave himself and he goes, don't worry, next to me, he's, gah.

4:50Yeah. Shoot up the mind. I know the feeling, man. I've sometimes, like, got in my boxers before because I'm like, what the fuck are you doing? I'm like, I just need to stretch out, man. We've got a ton of questions for you boys. We're just going to kick it off straight away. What's the longest you've gone without speaking to each other after an argument? Scott can answer that one, can't you? Yeah. Well, they fell out for a while, didn't they? How long did you fall out for? So me and Ryan didn't speak for six months. That is a disgusting storm, isn't it? This is back in the day. So Ryan used to be really stubborn.

5:20Like if you had a thought with Ryan, you wouldn't hear from him. And he was not reaching out. And you wouldn't even know about it. And there was one time, I think I was meant to help. He was playing a charity football game. Yeah. And I was meant to just come down and mine Scarlett while you were playing the game. Bear in mind, he had other people there, but he wanted me there. And I was so hungover and I couldn't get there. So next minute, we didn't speak for six months. And then - You let the family down. He was punishing me for going out on a night out, basically being hung over. And bear in mind, now I don't drink.

5:53I never punish you. That's a good point. No, no. Yeah. I feel like I'd let him down. You do punish him though, by putting videos out. Like Scott puts videos out, right? On a Sunday. On a Sunday when he knows that we've both been out. Yeah. Right. And the first thing that we do in the morning is go on Instagram. I was guarding him. I was guarding him Sunday. this Sunday and does he make himself look really fresh you don't ever go anywhere near Scott's Instagram on a Sunday it'll be with our mum but my mum Tuesday I'll leave it as well until I get myself out of the anxiety stage and ready for life you should stop drinking because yeah yeah and you literally open up the phone it's like you're a bad person I remember bringing Scarlett home when she'd just been born and I brought her probably the most special moment of my whole life bringing my my first born little baby girl home to see, you know, my brothers and my mum.

6:47And he stinks of booze and he's got a black eye, but he's got this black eye, but a faded black eye. And I went to him, have you got makeup on? And I was like, no. I said, yeah, you have. He tried to cover up the fact that he got himself in a fight the night before. Oh, he got himself in a few pickles. So I used to get knocked out every weekend. Every weekend. Hence why I don't drink anymore. and the one day my niece arrives and I'm black and blue and I think he's going to be worried about me so I end up putting a load of makeup on but I don't drink now but I will give you Yeah we know that mate we see your Sunday news Yeah He's talked about meditation on this podcast so I don't think meditation has ever been uttered on staying relevant once before in our lives But I will give you something to say and to be fair I want to ask you guys this So we had a podcast shoot recently where the podcast is finished and Ryan and Adam there was a bit of heated conversation that went on in the podcast.

7:38Anyway, it carried on after the podcast. Always does. And all our team sat around like this and the next minute these two erupt, right? Wait, I didn't erupt. You did. No, I didn't. You erupted. You pushed me. They haven't done this in ages. No, we don't mean I'll never fall out. No, never. We never do that. I sat down with my popcorn buzzing. And I was like, these two just went off in front of the whole team and everything else and I was thinking and literally they've both stormed off in different directions. I walked out, right? But he's got these electric gates and you have to get the pin number to get out.

8:08And I'm like, I can't think of the number. And I'm thinking, fuck it, I'm going to climb over. So I climbed over. Luckily, my car's in the side because as I climbed over, my back leg didn't make it and I've just gone over, hit my shoulder into my car, my face, and I've just rolled down the car and just come off and my elbow's stinging. I'm still not recovered now. I've got this dodgy elbow and I'm in the car and I'm in the steering wheel. And Adam likes to just put it to bed straight away. So I'm in the car in pain on the way home, like just the most frustrated I've ever been in my life. And he's trying to ring me.

8:40And I'm going, give me five minutes. Because I felt bad, man. And he rang me all day. I felt bad. He doesn't like to like end the conversation. Do you know when you left the room? Yeah, you rang me. No, well, I started, I started. And Scott's not a big cuddler, right? You get a hug off Scott. It means, I don't know why, but I was like, I don't know what I've done wrong. And I started crying. No, you didn't. I started crying. I was crying. I was crying. Do you know what's funny? You are me. I don't cry maybe as much but I do cry but I want to put things to bed like that I get an argument with Pete I am literally within a second of leaving and I get the phone out and I'll call him and he'll hang up physically but then what I'll do is stubbornly I will call him and call him and I will do it for 45 minutes and he's stubborn as fuck to heal every minute you're going to have 45 minutes and I always win and eventually people go what the fuck do you want you haven't given me a fucking second to fucking breathe mate and I'm like I just want you to know that I love you yeah yeah yeah I'm sorry I don't know what I'm really sorry and if I piss you off I'm really really sorry mate and he's like but this is what so fucking I made a real gaffe before the Brits last year I was going to say what do you argue about so I we argue about like very few things but when we do it's like world war yeah like well you know what pete's like fucking and you know i'm like i'm annoying so like i like i'm like a little woodpecker and pete is like a if you get if you get him you get him yeah and like and and i sometimes like to get him to the level and then i go okay and then sometimes if i go past that level by mistake it's very hard to bring him back down there's two times where I've got him to a fucking place.

10:25Really? One time we were in LA and this is years ago and we were watching the Logan Paul KSI fight live in the stadium. I somehow found like a megaphone and I'm just going, guys, this is Pete Wicks from TOWIE. Pete Wicks from TOWIE's here. Line up and get your photos. Mate, he's like, Sam, shut up. Sam, shut up. For half an hour, I'm literally just following around, filming it and following around being like, this is going to be hilarious. and we've got into a cab and as we've got in, he's gone bang with his elbow and ribbed me. And I literally was like, oh my God, I think he's broken a rib. And he went, do not speak to me for an hour.

11:01And we sat at the car in silence, in silence in the car on the way back. And then as we're pulling in, I went, can I speak now? And he went, you can speak now. And I was like, oh my God. But he's like, he's like, Pete is like, he's like my big, he's like my Ryan, you know, like and he's like like almost like a father figure as well because he's like he's not that much older than me but like he's had a lot of life experience me and pete will if we ever do argue i know we're like family people ask me if i'm best friends with pete all the time and i always say no we're not best friends i have best friends i've like enough best friends he's my brother yeah it's a complete different relationship i have with pete like we could strangle each other sometimes but i know and he knows if in one second if he needed me or if i needed him we'd be like that I think that's so seetful now because when these boys had an argument I just remember usually I used to like stress about going oh this is going to be a long one this nah we're not going to fix this for a while guys and everything else but I just text them both saying I think I said something like you have it by the end of today to sort this out and it was just sorted and I think this podcast now and even the TikToks with all the family and everything else like it's been the best therapy for us as brothers like we are talking so much our relationships are even stronger than ever and you'll probably have this with Pete as well like honestly a podcast are just a great way Because you're on your phone as well.

12:20It's the only time that all three of us have no phones. Yeah. And we have no distractions. And we find out things about each other that we never would normally talk about. I mean, you think you know each other, but the podcast is bringing things. Even about our characters sometimes, like, you know, body language and things that you'd never really bring up to another, like, in any situation. It's just the same place to be ourselves and be comfortable. Like, I couldn't do this for anyone else but these two, because they know me inside and out. And we also know how far we can push each other. And we have conversations sometimes now.

12:52And I think we're so protective of making sure that we don't fall out. Because, listen, over the years, we have fallen out. Everyone does. We have had big, big, you know, fall out. You're not best mates or brothers if you haven't fallen out, mate. I maintain that. You have to have a huge falling out. You know what it stopped as well, Sam, is when they said to my mum, said, this is when I was just started, Corey, I had this long black matrix leather coat, and I have these glasses on. I thought I was a bollocks. Looking back, I was just deluded. And my mum said to me, the boys aren't at home. I was like, I'll find them.

13:24In my Matrix code. Yeah, so I had a drive at the time and I said to the driver, I said, pull up here and it's next to the park. And I rang them, no, they rang me actually on my mobile. And I said, they said, where are you boys? He said, we're just at home. And there was a red phone box in them days and they were both in this red phone box. And I said, no, you're not. I can see you in the phone box across the road. They've got out of this phone box, ran across the park to all the mates and I've gone like this in the Matrix coat like this walking over he's Jason Grimshaw right he's Jason Grimshaw and he's we're little chavs at the time we've got our jeans tucked into our socks we've got our little bottle of vodka and that and then Jason Grimshaw is walking across to me in front of all our mates and dragging us off and grabbing Bobo by your ears and being like get back guys and while he's dragging us off all our mates are going that is fucking brilliant and then I've got him in the house and they both looked at each other for the first time ever and went, we can have him here.

14:20Yeah, that was a big turning point. And they both got me down together for the first time and I got backed out the door and I looked at them and they looked at each other and thought, I'm not going to win this anymore. So the fight's never happened anymore. The young balls have come here. Yeah, it's never been the same since. I was Peggy and he's the fill again. Do you know what? This leads me really nasty as you want to the next one actually is who's most out of touch with Gen Z? But obviously you were talking about your Matrix coat. I don't know how Gen Z that is at the moment, mate. I mean...

14:46I actually think it's Adam based on the podcast. What do you mean? Like, I feel like... What is Gen Z? What is Gen Z? Gen Z is like Slay Queen, you know, like Clock It. Clock It, that's what my daughter's is Clock It. Yeah, Clock It, man. Clock It. Clock It, man. Clock It. I do know the Clock It. Oh, I love a bit of road. He's so cool. We block you Slay. Yeah, no, we love it. Most of our team are actually Gen Z. So, look, Annelise, ready? Slay Queen. Oh. I love it. She knows. I sometimes like have to, you know, because now we own a company and you know, we've got HR and all this kind of shit. You do have to be like, because I still have a boyish part of me, right?

15:26And so I'm, you know, I sort of like feel like I'm their age and actually I'm not their age. I'm actually like over 10 years old. You forget sometimes, don't you? And you forget. So I feel like I'm the most in touch with Gen Z out of me and Pete, to be fair. But you would say Adam then. Yeah, I would say Adam's the one who has to apologise the most. yeah I do yeah do you know what I mean Ryan's got a 17 year old daughter so I think he's actually quite clued up aren't you so mate obviously you've got a 17 year old kid she's dating if you think that she's not like is she telling you who she's dating or is she going to her mum nah I'm the last person to know about them kind of things she'll probably tell Uncle Scott yeah she she thinks I'm a grass though do you reckon she does I'm not yeah she's very clever she knows not to say too much this is so fun she has told me like if she's dating and stuff but like does Ryan know you told me because I didn't know well she's going to tell him more than you yeah she wouldn't tell me no yeah you wouldn't tell the dad I'm the last person to know I don't feel like she'd tell Scott Scarlett I didn't play Scarlett's dad in Waterloo Road yeah oh my god so I'm like a pretend dad but you're probably the strict one you're the strictest out of all of us she said am I it might have changed a bit I'm not stricter than you yeah yeah she said you're the strictest oh I'm not strict I'm very protective I'm relaxed when you find out that your eldest is like dating someone, right?

16:45Are they allowed, like in the future, because me and Peter have make-believe daughters. We've got Olive and Rose, right? They're about 16, 17 years old. So about the same age as your eldest. Wait, stop. Stop a minute. What's going on? We can't just go over that. This is fucking weird. Is that weird? Yeah. It's fucking very weird. What's just happened here? What's just about this coming? What's crazy is that because we do this so often, to us, this sounds so, so me and Peter have make-believe daughters. Why? What do you mean? So mine's called Rose and Pete's called Olive. And like mine goes to private school.

17:16Pete's is at a state school. Pete's actually been expelled so far, Olive, actually. And so she's now sort of like trying to get into the workforce. Are you winding me off? What is happening here? What's this for? And my, we would just, we just, we thought we'd sort of like give ourselves. You boys are fucking tapped, man. Yeah, we thought we'd give ourselves like sort of like make-believe doors. We never know if we're going to have kids. So we're like, well, do you know what? We're like, what would you be like as a parent? And so we sort of like made up these sort of like scenarios. Where the fuck are we now?

17:40Yeah. So we kind of know how it feels, right? Like we kind of know. No, you do not know how it feels. We do, because whenever Rose comes back and she's had a couple of shots of vodka or something, I can smell it on your breath, mate. Like, you know, I don't like this. And if anyone's dating her, they're not coming around. You're actually talking like the fucking real Sam. This is - 100%. I'll tell you what though. This is bizarre. And Scarlett thinks she's clever, right? So Scarlett stayed at mine once when I was away for the night. And I came back the next day and you just, when you know - Something's happened.

18:08The candles sparked, right? It's tidy. And I'm just like, and she thinks I'm stupid. She's at a party. And literally all I do is go to the outdoor bins, right? Bear in mind, I was a wrong one, right? Yeah, yeah. So I went to the outdoor bins and seen everything in there. I was just like, well, I didn't even say it. I still don't know what's in there because I never get told about these things. Right, if someone comes around yours and they're like, hi, I'm here to pick up your oldest daughter, right? Yeah. What are you saying? Well, you've seen Bad Boys 2, haven't you? I have. Okay, well, let's do a little bit.

18:36Okay, so I'm the guy and my name is Stuart and I've come round I've knocked on the door as Stuart and I've gone like hi is this I don't think Scarlett would go for you you don't know what Stuart's like he's an athlete Stuart and I've knocked on the door as Stuart and I've gone hi as Scarlett and like where do you go from there I'd say who are you oh I'm Stuart I'm taking him out for the night who are you who are you oh Scott Adam hey they're not there it's just you oh shit I've always got in the back of my when it does happen my brothers will be there I've got to say with Pete I've got the exact same I imagine Pete will be there I've always imagined when that moment comes because I'll be prepped because she'll say he's coming around for the first time and she knows that's never going to happen but when it actually has to happen would you ring us to come around oh yeah and make sure we're all together around the table yeah that would be awesome well Adam will be crying to be fair so that would be fair Scott will be drunk I'll be meditating actually sorry that's our it's called me meditating I don't mean crying you'll be like boys this is no help at all and then me and Pete will be there it would be it would be Stuart fuck off and shut the door and then Scarlett would come crying daddy daddy what you doing and she'd probably fall out of me and follow him and I'd be like I'm the bad guy would you ever let anyone stay never in a million years oh he tried to tell me right so Ryan tried to tell me bear in mind my missus is 33 now and I was going to stay at her house for the first time A mum and dad's house.

20:06And Ryan was telling me that I've got to stay in his spare bedroom. I was like, bro, she's 33. And he was like, no, I respect. You should stay in a spare bedroom. I was going to go, I'm not 12. No, do you not think this is right? No, he's 37. Yeah, I understand that. But he's going around to see the mum and dad for the first time. This is weird. And he's going, oh, I'm just going to have a nice barbecue, nice little meal. I'm going to go upstairs and I'm going to shag your daughter. No, I wouldn't do that. Well, wait. But also, to be fair, Yeah, right. I feel like when you're of a certain age, they kind of know what's going on, right?

20:38I feel like that's not... It's funny now, because with Scarlett, she's singing and I can hear what she's talking about. There's a lot of, you know, chat about boys. Oh my God. It's going to happen to all of us, you know? She's 18 knocked over. Like, that's when I'm really going to lose her. She can drink and she can illegally go out and enjoy, like, things, you know, without having to... Without your say so. Yeah, so it's nearly over. I've only got a couple more. That's nearly finished. My job is nearly finished. Hey, she's got to have Olive and Rose, mate. They'll show her the talent. Olive's been out there for years.

21:08She hasn't come home yet. I'd probably like her to be with Olive and Rose. Scott, I wanted to ask you, you were talking sort of off mic in between the main and the bonus episode. You've found love. Scott's found love. I have found love. And I asked Scott. And so have you. Mate, I'm deep. But I asked Scott off mic. I went, is she the one? Scott said, yes. She's the one. She's very sweet. She's the one. And you said you manifested her. No, I literally, honestly, I manifested this girl. I went to a retreat by Dr. Joe Dispenza in Nashville. Yeah. The whole time I was there, it was like meditating five hours a day and I was meditating on my dream girl.

21:44I was like, right, okay. On my dream girl, I wanted to be a dancer, right? Because I find dancers really attractive. Someone who can move, do you know what I mean? I wanted to be spiritual, deep, emotional, like nurturing, like everything. And when I say to you, when I got back, this girl DM'd me and she was hot and she was also into all the stuff that I'm into, all the manifesting and the meditation. and all that. I was like, wait, what's going on here? And she was a dancer. There was a video of being a dancer. So yeah, literally she's come into my life and it's crazy like how much she's everything.

22:13And you knew. Yeah, I was just like, I say to her every day, I go, this is mental. Like we love all the same stuff. I've seen your missus loves all the same stuff. You do as well. She's a nerd. I saw her in a Harry Potter. Yeah, she's a nerd. Harry Potter, she likes to game. Yeah, when you find someone who loves all the weird stuff about you. Yeah, it's pretty cool.

22:33So I play Call of Duty with my girlfriend No you don't Yeah so this is how lame we are I'm so glad Pete's not here So actually I think I've told him this story She I have two Playstations One in my office and one in the living room And I play in the living room One with my headset on And she plays in the office One with her headset on That is the cutest thing And so we literally And so she shuts the door So we can not hear each other like that We can hear each other over the mics And so she's like He's on your six I'm like where? No way That's amazing. It's fucking bad, man. It's funny because if something goes wrong, she's like, fucking Elsa.

23:08And I'm like, oh my God, I'm arguing with my missus over Call of Duty. Who's better at gaming? Me. Oh yeah. But she's now like within with all my gaming friends, like David Badger, Reverend Boosty. Are these made up or are these real? These are real names. Just checking. But boys, do you think that Scott's found the one? I mean, it's weird because I've never liked any of Scott's girlfriends and I'm obsessed with Lauren. Like she is such a sweetheart. Obsessed though. Yeah, she's just got that, like, she looks into my soul and she just goes, I know him and I care about him and I just go, I really like her.

23:39Yeah, she's like a white witch. She's got this amazing energy.

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25:30when was the last time you realized that you were getting older scarlet makes me feel old all the time yeah yeah she's the one she's call your boomer no she's just just everything about it it's like i'm just not cool anymore oh no you are cool no no no i think you're cool no i i just know that that's the turn the corner now that's it she's 18 have you given up yeah i've got i've got two more to work on but i'm cool with them but scarlet's put me in my place a little bit she's just a cool cat. Yeah. So you're literally like, fuck, I'm now like, I'm an old dad. Yeah. I'm an old dad to her. Yeah.

26:02Shit. Mine was at the weekend because I actually did some gardening for the first time and I planted some flowers and I was so fucking happy. Honestly, I was like, this is the best thing that's ever happened to me. Mate. And I was like, what's going on? I planted hydrangeas, mate. And mate keeping them alive. They're like my babies. Yeah. I've never, gardening is the - Do you know what I realised by the way? What soil are you using? What soil? It was just like normal compost. But mate, so what I've realised is you know like old people they basically end up getting these houses and beautiful gardens spend all the time there think about it they've spent all their life trying to figure out what the meaning of life is so whatever they're doing is right but we take all that time to figure out that that's what life is all about do you know what I mean?

26:44mate Scott you're preaching to the choir mate really? I have hydrangeas I've got jasmine crawling up the walls at the moment I've got some olive trees growing they're growing very well and hosing is one of the most meditative stages I'm so glad I get bored. You said this out of the middle. Yeah, I was getting in the garden and watering my plants. I was like, I'm at peace here. Yes, I'm at peace. So Scott, yours is gardening. Brilliant fucking idea, by the way. And Adam, what's yours? When did you realise you were getting older? I didn't think I was getting older until I had Botox. So I had Botox because I was thinking, I don't need Botox.

27:17And then I had Botox. And then it went away. And then I thought, shit, I need Botox again. So then I feel like I've got loads of - Your head went massive though. But yeah, ever since I got Botox I was thinking oh I don't know what it is like ever since I've had it I think oh I need I need some more now and because I just I noticed the wrinkles a lot more I'm really surprised that you said that because Adam's gone back to Walk the Road he was a kid in Walk the Road and now he's a fucking teacher that must be weird you're like the old boy yeah but then also like working with kids at Walk the Road as well like I always constantly ask them I say do you look at me and think I'm old and they go no no the fear you have yeah and I'm like and also when people ask you your age now I go how old do you think I am instead of because you just want to know whether Adam just think you can just get on with all the kids like you know one of them I hang around more with the kids than I do with the adults Adam ask Pete whenever we're around Gen Z I'm literally like yeah guys who's that old dude over there like fuck yeah should we do a TikTok dance I'll be 90 and you won't be able to see my eyeballs because my skin has sagged so far down the face and I still think I'm super fucking yeah it's mad our team literally are like dude or 33, nearly 34, like grow the fuck up.

28:27And I'm just like, nope, never. I refuse. Why do we have to grow up? We don't have to. And do you know what? I had Botox once and I, so it looks good on your face actually, Adam. I mean, I've not got any, I only ate it once but then when I had it, I'm too expressionate, mate. I can't. You've got a lot of them. I've got a lot of lines, mate. I can't do it because I'm so, thank you, Scott. So nice of you to say. You've been getting Botox now. Thank you for pointing that out to me, man. Oh God, that's just, I feel great.

28:57I'm too expression of man. So if I, whenever I have, I have Botox, it, um, it might, I walk around like this. I walk like someone's pulled my face back and like, Did your cheeks go funny? My cheeks like a wax figure. And I'm like, I know, I know, you know, when, you know, in Texas, James, a massacre where he puts the fucking skin on the skin of the people he's murdered on his face. That's how I look when I have Botox, it's fucking horrific. I look like a horror character. I can't, I can't have it. I look like, I look like, it's like some real, like Leatherface is his name. I'm like Leatherface.

29:31I can't do it. That was just brought a flashback to me. I was watching the Shits in Gigs podcast you guys did, and it was so funny when you said to them two, oh, you're really short or something. And you all got up, and all four of them are short. There's nothing worse than when four short guys trying to decide who the least short person is. I was like, all under six foot. I was expecting, I couldn't believe it. I didn't realise, mate, all under six foot, right? We're like, nah mate, I'm like five, eight and a half. Pete's like, I'm five, ten. Honestly, not one of us at all. Those are all tiny penises, you know what I mean?

30:02We're just like, all just sad. You didn't get your penises out as well, did you? We've got cocks out, I've made it, Pete's got the biggest bollocks.

30:12Mine was when I was, it was three days ago and I was stretching in bed. oh is that what you're doing was it i was like i was going like that and i and my neck clicked i went oh my god and i was just stretching and she went my girlfriend went i just heard that she went are you okay and i went i don't think i am and i literally was like i called up my doctor i went hello dr smith i went i've just done my neck in and i went fucking hell mate you just done your hamstrings in my girlfriend looked at me she went you're old and i was like oh god if your girlfriend's saying that as well i also shat myself in bed once okay okay um anyway moving That was a fart.

30:48That was a fart that I thought was just a fart that turned into a shit. But my last question is before I get us all cancelled. How do you all find being in such a competitive industry and trying to stay relevant? Now, just to let you know, me and Pete do it every single day. We are aging reality stars trying to stay relevant in this industry. Can you relate to that? And if you can, how do you do it? Because we're always looking for tips. I was talking about this last night saying that in this industry, you've got to be the observer observing yourself play the game. If that makes sense. Like, does that not land?

31:24No,

31:28because it's weird when your business, your job, your life is linked to you and your relevancy. How do you want to perceive yourself is what you're saying. Yeah. So it's basically making sure that we love doing this. We love doing it because we love making people happy and we love making people smile, but there is part of it that you want your clips to do well, your numbers to do well. And for now, so it's so important to have like, like create a little bit of separation between who you are and what you do. But that's really hard when it's your personal brand. So it's just making sure you're observing, like you're enjoying doing what you're doing, but you're not getting wrapped up in it.

31:59That's a really good answer. Yeah, no, I like that. I like it. I think as well, just like the fact that we have been in this industry for so long, all three of us, you know, in different aspects of the industry. Like sometimes it's very hard to, You know, sometimes I don't necessarily really give ourselves a pat on the back, you know, to, there's so many people that have done the jobs that we've done, like soap and stuff. And, you know, they've gone off and done other things and they've never really stayed in the industry. And I just think, you know, like we, I did Emmerdale like 15, maybe 18 years ago.

32:29And so to still be in the industry, still being able to do what I do, clinging on. We are just by our fingernails. But doing what we love as well, Sam, do you know what I mean? and you know by acting as well going back to Watley Road and doing that and then getting to work with my brothers on a podcast and coming on podcasts like this it's the fucking dream and again it's not really like we think about it like oh you know how do we stay relevant it's just like just continuing to do what we love to do and hopefully you know we can reap the rewards because of it I'm so big on like gratitude as well and I even have to chat with the boys today because sometimes when you bog down and you because this is a business as well I mean you've got to put the work in right but I said to the boys we had a we had a little dream to come on your podcast when we first started and said boys we're going on the podcast tomorrow let's fucking remember what we're doing we're doing it we're enjoying it like and this is like a big milestone for us are you going to go and talk?

33:19what's that? we're not well listen this is this is probably the the first time that we've gone oh okay we've done a year now and the fact we're going to two of the boys podcasts who we've looked up to and like gone on a journey with and here now that's the start of something really special for us And I think it's really important not to have comparisons to other people all the time and also champion everyone else around you when they're doing something great. Because like, you know, I left Corrie and I was like, oh, I wasn't really doing anything. And then there was someone else doing this and someone else doing that.

33:50It's like it swings and roundabouts. Love that. But the biggest kick I get now is when people stop me in the street and say, I love the podcast. Yeah, it's cool. That is ours. And we built that, me and my best mates. And it's us. And it's us and it's our family that we talk about our lives. And it's a different kind of love and it's a different kind of appreciation. And that's what I love about it. I agree with you. There is no better feeling. It's not Sam off the radio. It's not Sam on, on TikTok videos or Instagram videos. It's literally, I love the podcast. If they say that you've made my day.

34:25That's it. And, and, and it's because it's a community and it's a family. Pete hates that word. And it's a family. Um, and, and, And you've paid us so many compliments. And I think, I really hope Pete listens to this podcast because it's beautiful that you guys are saying all of those things. He's not going to listen, is he? We should know what we're doing. I think it's so lovely to hear, guys. And I want you to know, with your pod, you have a massive, massive fan in me and Pete. And anything you need, and I mean this, anything you need from us, ever, we will fucking watch me. Can I just say, I've met Pete before multiple times and Pete's got an amazing warmth that Ryan talks about always makes you feel so welcome but Sam this is the first time I've spent time with you properly and honestly mate you have lived up to my expectations mate unbelievable part of the shit part of the fart shit no the energy's infectious mate it's beautiful it's been a real fucking honour and I'm going to do a better link now to your pod as well because I feel like I didn't do it just the last time you can catch the boys podcast obviously at home with the Thomas Bros wherever you get your podcast the clips are fucking brilliant we've actually used a few of the clips for this very podcast as well.

35:34And yeah, boys, a fucking honour having you here. What a guy. I really, really goddamn appreciate it. So thank you. Here's to Thomas Brody. Yeah.

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The Thomas brothers stick around with Sam for the bonus, where they chat about their arguments, who’s the most stubborn when it comes to breaking the silence, and how long they can actually go without speaking to each other.


They also put their Gen Z knowledge to the test, finding out who’s the most out of touch, before getting into dating and the realities of being a dad. With Ryan and Adam as parents, and Sam as a hypothetical one, they discuss how they’d handle the day their daughters start dating. From boys coming to the house to whether they’d ever let a boyfriend stay over. There’s even a little roleplay involved…


Plus, the boys have an honest chat about getting older, whether they’re starting to feel their age, and the most important question of all: are they getting Botox?

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