


Bonus episode of Staying Relevant where Pete Wicks and Yovita Pszestow (with Rodney Wicks present) discuss recent TV gossip (Helena booted from Love Island), fashion-week and celebrity reactions, World Book Day costume ideas, competitive parenting/sports-day scenarios, hiring-process jokes, and culminates in a detailed Q&A about Yovita and Pete’s “O2 dance” from Strictly.
Yovita Pszestow is a Strictly professional dancer and costume/dance-costume creator; Pete Wicks is a Strictly contestant/TV personality and “in-house fashionista” on the podcast; Rodney Wicks is a regular co-host/guest.
The O2 performance went wrong in specific ways (awkward spinning angles, missed steps, and a problematic jump-off stairs due to distance/foot landing), but they “pulled it off” and it was Yovita’s proudest career moment. They didn’t reach the Strictly final, but Yovita says the O2 show dance was still the meaningful goal.
Yovita’s only “perfect” Strictly dance was the tango; the O2 audience was ~15–16,000; they had only ~15 minutes rehearsal and the stage was two feet shorter.
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The hosts discuss Helena's elimination from Love Island and share their feelings.
“Have you been putting off that annual doctor's appointment because you don't want to make the call?”
The hosts discuss Helena's elimination from Love Island and share their feelings.
“The sad news, stay in relevance, favourite.”
The hosts talk about voting for contestants and the emotional impact of leaving.
“So we all voted here at Starry Medivin, and I'm sure all of you listening voted, but unfortunately it wasn't enough, and she has been booted off.”
Yuvita shares her thoughts on returning to the podcast and past experiences.
“I think it's you because you think that if I come back here, exactly that, that I will make you dance again.”
The hosts read an email about London Fashion Week and discuss styling.
“Do you not have any slutty little glasses?”
Yuvita rates Sam's and Pete's fashion choices, leading to humorous exchanges.
“Ten being the best, one being not so great.”
The hosts share thoughts on Jacob Elordi's latest movie and romantic themes.
“They're just kissing, like there's no, nothing.”
Discussion about the implications of actors' on-screen relationships.
“However, Sam and I are slightly different.”
Explore the challenges of dating an actress and dealing with on-screen intimacy.
“say what he wants but it's still single i think if i was her husband saying that doesn't bother me I do what?”
Discussion on World Book Day costumes and the challenges of parenting.
“I mean, as a two times Sunday Times bestseller and writer of three books, none of my books are sort of child appropriate though.”
Discussion about the competitive nature of sports day races for parents.
“and celebrate in front of all of the other kids.”
Imagining scenarios where parents face off at sports day, including Olympic sprinters.
“Okay, so we have to have an ambulance on a standby.”
Discussion about past athletic experiences and competitiveness among friends.
“because, I mean, you've spoken previously on the pod a number of times about being an athlete.”
Conversations on the importance of teaching children about competition, winning, and graciousness in losing.
“for me, if you're in Sank, you try and win it.”
Exploring how competitive friends would handle sports day races with their children.
“I remember my mum, bear in mind you've met my mum.”
Discussing how friends would react during a competitive race scenario with their children.
“I think you would trip him up or something.”
Introduction to a segment called 'Question Time' where questions will be addressed.
“but I don't know if you remember, but I did that challenge for UNICEF 11 years ago and the old calf.”
Answering questions regarding the performance during the O2 event.
“Goes up on the socials at Staying Relevant Podcast.”
Explore the emotional and technical challenges faced during the O2 dance performance.
“or did anything go wrong that we don't know about?”
Reflect on the personal significance of performing at the O2 and the journey leading up to it.
“and it was nothing in the lead up to it was how I wanted it to be it was so busy at the time we didn't have enough rehearsal time And we never really had, we had 15 minutes on that stage.”
Conclude with insights on life and the meaning behind their journey, including a light-hearted moment.
“I'm actually happy we didn't get to the final.”

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0:00This ad is sponsored by ZocDoc. Hi, it's Danny Pellegrino from Everything Iconic. Have you been putting off that annual doctor's appointment because you don't want to make the call? Or maybe you've been meaning to find a new dentist, but you have no idea where to start. I find that's especially true when you move. It's hard to find your people. I've been there, which is why I use ZocDoc. Now, as a busy podcaster, parent, and someone who's always juggling a million things, I love anything that makes life easier. and ZocDoc lets you search and compare local in-network doctors with over 250 ,000 providers across more than 200 specialties.
0:33You can read reviews from real patients, find a provider who feels like the right fit, see actual appointment openings, and book instantly. I recently had a last-minute health issue pop up and needed to see someone fast. Instead of calling around or sitting on hold, I found a doctor on ZocDoc and booked an appointment in just a few minutes. It made the whole process so much less stressful. Ready to be seen? Download the ZocDoc app today. That's ZocDoc, Z-O-C-D-O-C, and book that appointment on your to-do list. Welcome to a podcast hosted by two best friends, me, Pete Wicks, and Rodney Wicks. And we have an extra special guest.
1:15I'm basically eating the microphone because there's a Rottweiler on my lap. Yuvita's back! Yay! Welcome to Staying Relevant, the podcast with Yuvita Pszestow and Pete Wicks. Nicely done. Really good. Yeah, much better than last time. Much better than last time. I know, because you didn't interrupt me this time. Sorry, sorry, but you did only introduce two of us. There is three of us here. And my favourite, Rodney. Rodney's here. Rodney's here on the pod. So this is the bonus episode, which means it's Thursday and you'll be able to watch this on Josh and Kira's YouTube channel from 5pm on Sunday.
1:53And then the main episode, which came out on Monday, you can now watch on Josh and Kira's YouTube channel as of 5pm last night, which is Wednesday, which means that you can catch us on a... Monday, Wednesday, Thursday, Sunday. Wonderful. Make sure you rate-reviewed all of that sort of stuff. Follow us on all social platforms, which is at Staying Relevant. There will be swearing. If you don't like it, go f*** yourself. Right, let's start with some sad news. What is the sad news? It's very sad news. Well, Sammy's not coming back. No, that would be good news, darling. The sad news, stay in relevance, favourite.
2:32Helena's been booted off Love Island. No, I love Helen. We love Helena. We were rooting for her. Oh, no. I know, I know, I know. I'm not entirely sure why. I think the public have gone mad. We haven't seen a travesty like this since I was written off Strictly. No, Helen, no, no, no, no, no. Can we turn back time? I haven't worked out how to do that. Because I didn't vote, so I feel kind of responsible for that as well. To be honest with you, yeah. Did you vote? Yeah. Do you vote on my vote? Yeah. No, I did, yeah. I asked Pippa to do it for me. Did you? Yeah, every week. How do you vote? On the app.
3:15Have you got the app on your phone? Yeah. Yeah, show me. Okay, I'll do it after this. Yeah, all right. Okay, cool. Excellent. So we all voted here at Starry Medivin, and I'm sure all of you listening voted, but unfortunately it wasn't enough, and she has been booted off. The iPad's gone, so you're just going to have to take charge here. No worries. This can go really bad, but it's fine. No, it's going to be fine. This is the bonus episode, which means it's all about you. If you do want to get involved, then make sure you email us at the worst email address in the world, which is hello at srproductions.co.uk.
3:48The iPad is magically back. Thank you ever so much, Tuckles. If you could just sit down, that would be great. It's quite tough doing a podcast with a Rottweiler on your lap. Yeah, I mean, he weighs more than I. He does weigh more than I. Not in you, no. What do you mean? He weighs more than me. Yeah. Not you. Why would you say that like I'm fat? Porky. Let's continue. Fine. Excellent. Yovita, how have you been? I've been great. Are you glad to be back? It's been a while. It's been a while. We've missed you. We get asked about you all the time. Really? Yeah. I thought I did a really bad job. That's why you never brought me back.
4:33No, it's, do you know what? I'm going to put it out there. It was Sam. Sam didn't want you back. That's not true. No, it genuinely is. Why? Because people prefer you to Sam. That's not true. No, it is. No, no, no, no. It is true. I think it's you because you think that if I come back here, exactly that, that I will make you dance again. And you really don't want that. Yeah, neither does Rodney. He's actually saying yeah. No, he's saying no, don't let him dance. Yeah, he's saying yeah. It's really bad. It's really bad. I do apologise if you're listening to this and you don't like dogs because there will be a lot of fucking whimpering and dog noises.
5:12I just want to let you know that he is Rodney and it's not me. It could potentially be Yovita. We don't know. Well, I'm not sitting on your lap. Sorry? I'm not sitting on your lap. We have proof. No, just in case anyone was wondering if Yovita was sat on my lap. That's not me. Let's continue. Let's move on. You want to move on? Yes, let's move. Yes. So let's go with some emails, shall we? I think you should read the first one. Okay. I forgot my glasses. I'm there. Do you not have any slutty little glasses? What? These are slutty little glasses. Why are they slutty little glasses? I don't know.
5:47That's what people call it. They call you slut? No, they don't call me. No, the glasses are sluts. I'm not a slut. These are sluts. They're slutty little glasses. Hello, Team SR and Evita. Huge week in the calendar year for the boys. London Fashion Week. Now with Sam's glow up and Pete's long-standing status as the in-house fashionista, what? The screaming staying relevant. I'm keen to hear if you're attending any events, how would you style each other for a catwalk? Also, can we hear your Vita rate, Pete's outfit? What would you change, please? Thanks, Charlotte. First of all, Charlotte, London Fashion Week.
6:34Yes. I mean, I'm sorry to say that, but you and Sam are attending London Fashion Week. No, I mean, absolutely. Sam could attend. Sam's now got a stylist and Sam considers himself to be a fashionista these days. If you were to style Sam, so Sam's how you grow up, what would you put Sam in? What do you think would suit Sam? How do you rate Sam's fashion? Rate Sam's fashion between one and ten. Ten being the best, one being not so great. I would say like seven. Seven, okay. So what we know about you is that you're really nice. So whatever you say, we can take two off. So you're going to go five out of ten for Sam.
7:14What would you rate mine? Depends. On what? Because sometimes it's like eight. Yeah, okay, I'll take eight. And sometimes it's like less than eight. Who do you think's better dressed, Sam or I? There we go. That's all we needed. Clip that up for fuck's sake. You always have nice suits. Thank you. I like suits. Suits are good. Sam's got one suit that he had made for him three years ago that doesn't fit him anymore as we saw last week. I mean, fuck me, that shirt was holding on for dear life, wasn't it? His little titties were nearly popping out. Because he's working out. He's quite... Well, he was working out and he's like, do you know what I mean?
7:54He was looking, what do they call it? Wham. Wham. He was looking wham. Is that what they say? Is that what the kids say? Yeah, is that what the kids say? Some kids say that. Would you say Sam's wham? I wouldn't use the word wham, no. Josh, would you say Sam's wham? I don't know what that means. Just wham. Yeah, no. Try it. Yeah, Sam's wham. Yeah, yeah. Who would you say is more wham, Sam or me? I think Sam is more wham. And I think you're more class. Yeah, nice. I see what you did there. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, good. Class. Yeah. Why are you looking me up and down now? Because I'm just rating.
8:35Okay. What would you rate today's current outfit? I don't like the T-shirt. You don't like the T-shirt? No. What's wrong with the T-shirt?
8:44The colour is like washed. It's washed. It's not black. It's like, and it's quite short. All right. Well, let's go on to the next email, which is about another kind of fashionista bloke that I admit it, who I think dresses really well, Jacob Elordi. All right. calm yourself down for this because I feel like you're going to really enjoy this. I've watched the movie on Monday. Perfect. Lovely. Hey, Pete. Hey, I presume you've eaten. I saw the teaser on Instagram. See, they knew it was you. I mean, you put George of the Jungle yourself in a lion's cloth. You think you're the only person I've dressed up like that for?
9:20Yes. You would be correct. I'm sure you've both seen all the hype around Wuthering Heights' movie. Yes. Keen to get a male and female perspective. Margot Robbie described how Jacob Elordi made her weak at the knees and how she thought he'd make a good boyfriend. How would you both react to your partner featuring in steamy movies and then commenting on their relationship out of character? Love you both, Gemma. So, you've seen the movie. Yep. How is it? I loved it. I cried. Did it get you hot under the tiny little baby collar? No. No? No, I think, you know, everyone says that it's really like steamy and like, how they say soft bone.
10:04It's not. No? No. They're just kissing, like there's no, nothing. So it's quite dull then? No, it's not. It's a beautiful story. Any fingering? Yes, but you can't see it. Is there actually? Yeah. Fucking hell, really? Yeah. The only thing you can see actually is them kissing. So did you... There's one scene, maybe a little bit when he just... Like when... Yeah, but you can't see anything. You can't see the action. If you're asking me... You can't see her naked. You can't see him naked. You can't see anything. She's always dressed in this big dress. And if they do something, she's always dressed.
10:49Oh, so it's like dry humping for a little bit then. Did you feel the intensity and the passion? I did, because they're great actors. So I felt... I'm also quite romantic, you know, like I cry on everything. So... Just like me. I think you... Have you seen the movie? No. I think you're going to cry. Oh, fuck no. I couldn't think of anything worse. I love Margot Robbie. He's a great big tall fella who dresses really well. He's... Okay. Yeah, don't... He's body. Yeah, but it would be ridiculous. You're four foot tall and he's nine foot tall. And? I would love that. Well, he's just going to pick you up.
11:26Yeah, there was actually a scene when he picked her up. Yeah, but he wouldn't pick you up like that. He grabbed her by the corset, he picked her up, and that's it. I mean, you're saying it wasn't like soft palm, but you're basically going to slide off that fucking chair if we talk about it anymore. Because this makes me more excited. Like, those moments, they are more than just seeing them having sex. Oh, so it's the intensity, the yearning. That's what everyone says it's about, isn't it? Yearning? Yearning. Fine, whatever. I don't even know what that means. So Margot Robbie's got a fella, no?
11:56Yeah, husband. Husband. Yeah. But I'll be honest with you, the way that they talk about each other, I think they fucked. But Pete, okay, you've been in this industry for a very long time and you know that to advertise the movie, that's the best advert ever. You've done it as well. Yeah, me and Sam, we got this podcast off the ground. I mean, you got married, you know? Well, that's a very good point, actually. It's like Sam said the other week about Lewis Hamilton and Kim Coates, all for PR. Fucking hell, he's right. Sam's right. It's all for PR. You know what I mean?
12:38However, Sam and I are slightly different. Well, I mean, if you look at Margot Robbie and Jacob, I mean, that is a beautiful couple. It would be hard not to fancy the other one. Let's be honest. Do you know what I mean? Like as much as it is for PR, she's married and all the rest of it, I'm sure. But there must have been moments, you know what I mean? I would do in moments. I've seen one where he's got his fingers in her mouth and that. I've seen, yeah, saw a clip. Yeah, he's got his fingers in her mouth and all that. If someone was doing that to my missus, honestly, I'd chop him off at the fucking elbow.
13:15Was that on the interview? what are you what are you then doing if your girlfriend slash wife is out of character on the red carpet saying oh yeah so you're married to margot robbie what she's then being like jacob elodi makes me weak at the knees yeah he'd be a great boyfriend he filled her a hotel room with loads of roses i wonder where you're gonna go with that he filled a hotel room with loads to roses right okay that's not a euphemism that's no okay i mean look okay the talking about the film and and you know working together i get that great person to work with you know makes a week of these because everyone feels like that about him and vice versa has he got a missus no no so he can say what he wants but it's still single i think if i was her husband saying that doesn't bother me I do what?
14:10You would be fuming No, saying that on the red carpet because he kind of makes everyone weak at the knees like everyone kind of says that the bit that I would struggle with if that was my missus is the little stories that they keep telling about having like flowers to the thing when they're on set that's probably months away working and then whoever you are and however confident you are, it is going to play on your mind because the geezer don't look like the back end of a bust does he? he's a great big seven foot tall fucking fella good looking fella probably like the man of the moment and then having to go and go well done done I can't wait to watch this film and sit in there and watch him fingering your wife's mouth it's a lot isn't it do you know what I mean I would be sat there sort of you enjoying that are you you know what I mean I mean it's going to be difficult and then what you'd have to do because he's seven foot tall is go don't do that to my wife again fucker get your thing keep your fingers to yourself you big fuck Eh?
15:07You big Aussie fuck. He's quite skinny, though. Eh? He's quite skinny, though. Yeah, I mean, yeah, he is quite skinny. I mean, it looks like a gust of wind and the geyser starts swaying. But, either way... He has good... He has good what? He has good muscles. Yeah, I mean, listen, but muscles aren't everything. This is what I tell people all the time. Conclusion is, you can't date an actress. No, but there's level... All right, put it this way. If it was Wuthering Heights starring Margot Robbie and Danny DeVito, I think I would probably go, it'll be fine. You wouldn't even say that. But if it was Danny DeVito, wouldn't be that bothered.
15:44Jacob Elordi, whoever you are, you would kind of think, but does she like him? Do you know what I mean? I've never dated an actress, I wouldn't know. Have you ever dated an actor? No. Have you ever had to watch, how would you cope? If you're a fella, if you had to watch like that. um but you're you're in the arts yeah you're in the arts so i look at it i look at it differently and i've been there i mean not like it's like a physical touch or like pretending a relationship on stage yeah like i know it's fake you know so it's it's not real it's just her job Yeah. Very nice job. I would do that. And she, I fucking bet you would.
16:34Are you not going to go and watch it? I haven't been to the pictures in, I don't even know how long. Why? You don't like cinemas. There's nothing I've really wanted to see, like, to go and do it. There's nothing I've really wanted to see that much that I can't just wait for. You know what I mean? It all ends up on the box. I know, but that's the best thing. You go to the cinema, you get a popcorn, you sit in a corner on a nice sofa or something and you just watch a movie. Yeah, but then. No one's bothering you. Yeah, but they do. That's the issue. Ah, okay, yeah. Whereas what I can do. No, no, not because that.
17:18It's just people chewing their popcorn too loudly or talking through the fucking film. I'll stop watching the film. Yeah, but then you need to. I miss the bit where Jacob will order his finger in her mouth because some little runt is sat down there chewing his popcorn and chatting to his bird going, can I do that to you later? Shut up. I've missed it now and you can't rewind it. Whereas I can sit in a corner at home and eat popcorn and watch the film. You're just choosing wrong cinemas. You need to find a low-key local one. I've got one where I always go. Yeah, I always go there because there's no people.
17:51Although there was a lot of people in that movie. I bet. Was it mostly couples? No, actually. Did you see it the weekend? Is that Valentine's? No, on the Valentine's I went party. You went party? Yeah. Valentine's party? Yeah, I was... Party! Yeah. All right, yeah. No, it's not saying I would go and see. I'm going to be honest with you. But I enjoy the clip. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But the moment it comes on like Amazon or something, you're going to watch it at home. And you're going to rewind for that scene when he puts the fingers in her helmet. Only if I don't come the first time.
18:28Okay, good. Anyway, let's move on. Yeah.
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19:43Hello, Pete and Staying Relevant team. You probably don't know this, but World Book Day is coming up. It's in my calendar. after what felt like hours and hours of thinking my nine-year-old daughter came to the great idea she wants to be the one and only pete wicks for world book day not only is pete an icon among the older generation he is now an icon to the under tens on top of this i have a question what kind of parents would you be when your child has to dress up for school would you be making costumes or just popping down the local sainsbury's and calling it a day thank you for all laughs keep Keep up the amazing work from Sarah.
20:20I mean, as a two times Sunday Times bestseller and writer of three books,
20:26none of my books are sort of child appropriate though. I'll be honest with you. It's sort of a weird, because don't you have to, well, Book Day, don't you have to take in the book? Yeah. I would hope that it's more staying relevant that she's taken in. I don't think it will be. It's a tough one as a 10 year old to go in. why have you chosen to be Pete Wicks? The way he talks about suicide's great is quite a tough conversation to have, but very honoured. I would like to see how the outfit, do you dress up as the person? Is that what you do? Yeah, so she'll be dressing up as you holding your book.
20:57Okay, so Sarah would love to see how your child is going to look like me. Also slightly worried about that. How would you dress up as me? How would you dress your child up as me? I'll put like black jeans, black top, boots, leather jacket, a lot of like grease the hair, go back, maybe like, you know, like fake beard, pencil, you know, a little bit of wrinkles and a cigarette. Excellent, yes. No, maybe that's what she's going to do. She's going to send her child into school dressed as me with a fag. No, but you can get a fake. Yes, you can get a fake cigarette. Yeah. And fake pint of Guinness. Well, I think we're all going to want to see that, Sarah, so make sure you send in a picture.
21:58If you had a kid. Yes. Well, book day, they have to dress up as an author. Would you go all out on the costume or would you just kind of make one? I feel like you're quite arts and crafts. Of course I will go for, like, out. Yeah? Yeah. You'll be on the Strictly costume designers and getting them to fucking make it? You know that I already do that. What? I help costume departments on Strictly, a lot. Do you? Yeah, of course. I did all my dancing dresses back in the day because I couldn't afford it, so I was sewing. I was creating all my dance costumes. I've known you for years now. Because you don't ask questions.
22:38Oh, fucking hell. Here we go. Yeah, I can sew on a machine. Okay. I design. I made them. I put the stones. So we know who's the mother you'd be. So you go full in. My kit would be the best dressed kit ever. Yeah. I would literally spend all my money. Because the kids' clothes also are so cute. Well, I mean, you used to wear them. I actually do sometimes. Yeah. What age? Like sort of age five to six? No, 10, 12 or 10, 11. Do you actually? Yeah. That's cute as fuck. So, you know, like on the tour, we get as a gift, they're dry ropes every year. And mine is a kid size. That is quite cute though, to be fair.
23:25Yeah. What sort of dad would I be? No expense bed. You wouldn't even care. You will just... No, I... Okay, that's not true. If you have a son, you don't care. Yeah, I couldn't give a fuck. If it's a daughter, I can see... My son won't be able to read. I can see... I can see you literally plaiting the hair. I can plait. Putting the bow... Can you? Yeah. Prove it. Pippa. She's got a long straight hair. Yours is done. Yours is a mess. No, they're lovely. Right, here we go. I'm just going to plait some of the pippers here. French or not French? Out or inside? Just the plait that I can do. I don't know what.
24:15There's so many ways. Well, it's just a plait. I don't know what. Okay, go on. Yeah, I'm not fucking Vidal Sassoon. Did you do it on yourself? Yeah. Okay. COVID lockdown wasn't much going on. I was quite drunk. It's actually looking great. Really? Yeah, he knows how to do it. I'm surprised. Why you never done this for me? Because we had a whole hair and makeup department during Strictly. Yeah, but on the rehearsals, you know. Listen, Marcos, step aside, mate. Step aside, brother. Lisa, get out the way, darling. I've got it. Now, if you'd just like to... It's actually really nice. But, yeah, if anyone else needs any plaiting done...
24:58All right. I really want... I'm what you call a man of many talents. You are, actually. You surprise me now. So, anyway, where were we? Yeah, so when you're going to have a daughter, she's going to be... She'll constantly have her hair plaited, yeah. But, no, listen, if I had a daughter, whatever she wanted to be, if she wanted to go, whatever book she decided to, I would probably veer her away from one of my books, I'll be honest with you, at the age of 10. What if your daughter comes to you and she's like, Daddy, I picked my book. Yeah. And it's Uncle Sam's book. So she's going to be dressed as Sam.
25:35Yeah, yeah. I think that would be quite an easy thing. What I'd do is I'd go start on Amazon, buy a bald cap.
25:47It's sort of a mullet. Okay. Mullet haircut. Do you think he's going to keep the mullet? Eh? He's going to keep the mullet. It's more whether... To be honest with you, darling, at this point, it's more whether the mullet will keep him. Okay. Because by the time you're going to have a daughter... By the time we're going to have a daughter... He might be very bold. Yeah, he's going to look like a potato. No, he won't, because he's going to go sort that out. He hates us talking about it, so we won't go on about it. But his hairline's really bad. I don't think so. And he gets really conscious about it.
26:14No, it is. We'll show you some pictures in a minute. Honestly, we've got quite a lot of pictures. We've got a whole gallery, a montage. Really? Yeah. I've seen him lately. Yeah? He looked great. Yeah, but the difference is you're quite short, so you can't see on top of the head. It's that angle that's bad. Anyone shorter than him. So you and Leo haven't noticed. Everyone else. Okay. Anyway, so yeah, I'd be the sort of kid, if it was my kid, whatever she wanted, she could go as. Yeah. And it would be full because them sort of things, I always feel like if you are sending your kids to school for like a dress-up day, if she's not the best dress there, then there'll be problems.
26:57She has to have everything better than everyone else. And she deserves that as well. She would have to be the best. I think that's the point. All them dress-up things, because there's other dress-up days, you know, when you're young. I don't know, because I haven't been at school in the UK. We don't do it in Poland. Do you not? No. Well, I'll tell you, what about Sports Day then? I mean, Sports Day is a big one in the UK. Josh, you've got it coming up, man. Do they still do Sports Day for kids, yeah? Yeah, sports day was always a big one when I was younger. I was very sporty as a kid before everyone got bigger and sort of, you know, I found tequila and cigarettes.
27:38But I used to be very sporty, so I used to win everything. But my mum loved that. But my mum and my dad were quite competitive. So when I was really young and used to do sports days and that, all three of us would win everything. My mum would win the mother's race. My dad would kill himself. Between the Father's Day. And he would win and take it quite aggressively and celebrate in front of all of the other kids. I would do the same. And I would make sure we would all win. It was just quite competitive. If I had a daughter and it was sports day and it was a father's race, I'm telling you now, I ain't fucking losing.
28:19Point blank. It's not the taking... No, no, no, no. For her, it's taking part of the counts. I don't care if she... As long as she's happy with what she did, I'm happy and I'll be proud of her no matter what. But I ain't fucking losing. Okay, so we have to have an ambulance on a standby. Oh, absolutely, yeah. I mean, I will win cheering, going, I've fucking beaten you all whilst being carted off in St John's. But I ain't losing. I know. You don't like losing. But neither do you. And I feel like you'd be similar. But you're very athletic, so it would be very difficult in a sports day. imagine this imagine you've got a kid but it's for kids it's not for you no no no because they do so sports day in the UK they do a father's race and a mother's race so it's where the mums will line up and do like a 100 metre dash or like the dads would do something oh yeah yeah I'll be very competitive so imagine you're at sports day with your kid right and then she turns up as one of the other mothers and you think I'm up for it and then the little ninja here turns up you'd be fucking raging wouldn't you I watched one in America where they had an Olympic sprinter turned up for the Mother's Day and turned up for the 100 metre dash and she fully went for it.
29:28And it's the funniest thing. All the other mums at the start are just going, what's the fucking point? This Olympic sprinter is warming up. And then she does it. She'd finished by the time they'd all fucking got off the ground. Wow. But yeah, that's... That would be me, yeah. I mean, as the resident pre-parent, weird thing to describe you as, Josh, how do you think you're going to deal with... because, I mean, you've spoken previously on the pod a number of times about being an athlete. You have yet to show any of that. I'm not sure it's a direct quote. Well, I mean, you have. I mean, do you not remember when we did the kind of sports day?
30:01Yeah, I used to play football. I didn't, you know. Yeah, we've seen no evidence of any athletic ability from you. But the sprinting, you said, you know, I'm quite quick, possibly one of the slowest human beings I've ever seen. I mean, it was like someone had just sort of wound up a sloth. I think it was because I was in Converse, so I think that was the issue. And I don't wear those now. Definitely, Converse are not great for running Well, thank you Yeah, yeah, yeah Is that what it was? I think so You want to race in the car park, mate? Uh, not today But those shoes are not the best as well for running What, trainers?
30:31What the fuck do you want them to wear? No, no, no, they are not No, they're too clumsy They are not specific These I tried Um, how do you think you'll get on in the sports though? I'll be competitive, yeah Yeah Yeah, yeah, and I'd like that too In your mind you will No, no Physically less competitive. Yeah, but I'll give it a real good go. Yeah. And I would want her to have a really good go at it as well. Oh, okay. Like she doesn't necessarily have to win, but just don't come last. Right. Yeah. Okay. Understandable. I mean, yeah. I mean, my daughter just wouldn't come last. How do you know that?
31:08Because Sports Day now, it is like back in the day, for me, if you're in Sank, you try and win it. it doesn't matter if you don't do you know i mean as long as you do the best you can yeah but you go to win now it's taking part accounts yeah i disagree if you're gonna do it do go go it's not just i'm happy to be here yeah go for it if you don't win it's actually okay as long as you've done the best you can because you can't be great at everything it's evident i've proved that multiple times but you have to have the desire to want to do it and as long as my kid had the desire to want to do well I don't care what they do as long as they do their best I think because it's going to be your kid he or she they will be competitive and they will have a desire to be the best but then you also have to because they can't get rid of that yeah but you also you have to be a gracious as well in losing yeah but that would be the mum part to teach them that.
32:11Do you think? Yeah. I remember my mum, bear in mind you've met my mum. I love Trace. My mum, just a little angel. But when I used to play school sports and that, she would scream at the side of the pitch and that on anything I'd do. Like, go on B! Yeah, oh yeah, yeah. My mum's quite competitive. I know. It's very odd, because you wouldn't expect it, but she's quite competitive. Oh, I've been, yeah. Yeah, my dad was very competitive. But I don't think that's necessarily a bad thing. But you're very competitive as well. No. Yeah. What do you think Sam would be like? Sports day. Because we all know Sam repeatedly tells everyone how athletic he is.
32:59He works out, he does this. Do you know what I mean? He's ran the length of the country. What do you mean, like, if you go both against each other? No, if we had... Well, actually, yeah, we'll do that after. But if Sam had a kid, it's a Father's Day race. How do you imagine Sam will handle that? Oh, he definitely want to be the best, but...
33:21But... Maybe he will trip on the way, I don't know. Right, yeah, that is a Sam thing to do, actually. You know, I don't know. I'll give Sam his due. Actually, he is quite competitive. In fact, he's very competitive. I think Sam would do quite well. Yeah, maybe. But I've seen you both racing in that balloons thing. Oh, if it was up against me. Like... If Sam and I had kids the same age, can you imagine this? That would be a disaster. If Sam and I had kids the same age, it gets to sports day and it's the father's race. Disaster. Let me know, I'll come and watch. That would be something. Who's your money on?
34:08you purely because i think you would like there would be nothing off the cards in terms of what you would do to ensure it was you that suggests that you think i'd cheat yes what i think you'd like kill if you had to if it was the first to kill yeah no i think if sam were to be slightly in some hypothetical universe, if he were to be a little ahead of you in the race, I think you would go to, you know, extra measures to ensure that that weren't the final result. Yeah, I'd just kick into a higher gear. It's mind over matter. I wouldn't cheat. Okay. You'd kick into a higher gear. You think I'm a cheat?
34:55I think you would trip him up or something. Would you not? No. I did not expect you to be so offended by that. Right. Do you know what I mean? Possibly the most insulted I've ever been. No way. If I'm not good enough, I'm okay with that. I think it's the other way around. Would Sam change? Fucking absolutely. I actually think if you pulled ahead of Sam, I think Sam would like pull a hammy. Oh. And he'd like pull up. And he wouldn't cross the finish line because of. Oh, yeah. He'd rather not finish. He'd be injured. Yeah. I mean, let's imagine our daughters are 10 years old and it's sports day.
35:30If Sam, if I was ahead of Sam, I mean, firstly, this is very hypothetical because firstly, neither of us have kids. Me being here in 10 years is a stretch anyway. But if Sam would then go back to, yeah, but I don't know if you remember, but I did that challenge for UNICEF 11 years ago and the old calf. You know what I mean? It's an old injury, like a war hero. and he had like he had a cyst on his vocal cords in like 2026 and I still haven't quite recovered yeah you can hear it yeah yeah you can you can hear it you know what I mean listen to this you can see yeah and then he'd hit you with a tonsil stone yeah then he'd hit me with a tonsil stone that was fucking weird but yeah I um but yeah I would never cheat do you think I would be I'm not a cheat type person you're not a cheat no just wouldn't be sorry I'm really sorry I'm going to be honest with you Pippa that's one of the most insulted I'm really sorry one of the most insulting things she's ever said I also think if me and you were against each other if they just did a parents race I know exactly what would happen there as well you would lose yeah absolutely you'd smash the shit out and I would wave like the queen yeah I'd be like right so question time I'm really enjoying having you here can I do this question time you can but why would you this is the best part ever I love this question time do we do that normally yeah it's because Pete won't listen back to the episode so he won't know that that's a thing of course you don't listen and every time you say question time it goes question time oh well take it out then no that's the best part The best part of the podcast.
37:23The best part. I'm waiting. The award-winning fucking sold out the O2. The best part is Sam going, question time. Yes. Fuck me. Do you want to record your own version? We can maybe switch them out. Yeah, fine. Ready? It's question time. Duh, duh, duh, duh. And you still can't do it in the rhythm. I'll make my own rhythm. Duh, duh, duh, duh. It's question time. This next part of the podcast is brought to you by Indeed. Sam, I've had a little look at the script and I've put my business head on, right? And I'm thinking there's something I need to talk to you about. Business P, I love it when you do this.
38:05What is it? Basically, I think we need to revamp our hiring process at Staying Relevant. Okay, fair enough. Why don't we do a little meeting now then? I mean, I think we need to discuss how the perfect hiring process of staying relevant productions would go. Yeah, and should we do a Monday meeting now? Oh, yes, baby. You're good at the Monday meetings. Let's do it. Okay. Oh, my God. I want to throw some kerples in there. Like, dance for me. Sorry? I feel like if we're going to hire someone, we need to know they can dance. Why do we need to know that? Well, I just feel like if you can make yourself look like a bit of a fool and have a dance, I feel like you're okay.
38:40We can't even dance, so I don't think that's going to go in there. Anything else? I mean, we could go a bit boring. Like, you know, what's your favourite colour? Why would that make a difference to whether or not they're going to be good for the company? Because if your favourite colour is like maroon, then I don't think you're right for us. Who says maroon is their favourite colour? That's what I mean. Or if it's like beige, then I don't think you're for us. I don't think that's a great question either. What about, you know, what's Pippa's favourite drink? No one cares what Pippa likes to drink.
39:09She can get her own drinks. It doesn't matter. Yeah, but if they say that, it means they're fans of the pod, you know? We don't want fans. We want people to work here. What does Josh like for his brekkie? I don't care what Josh likes for his breakfast, but I imagine looking at Josh, it's something like granola. But we should make taking a selfie part of the interview process, I think. You know, we're all about creating great content. And if you can't take a decent selfie, then quite frankly, there's no point in you being here. What do you reckon? Again, I don't think it's a necessity. And also, if we go through like a stringent hiring process, we're just going to have loads of selfies with random people.
39:41What if they have a dog? Now you're talking, that would be fairly important. I feel like it'd be quite distracting. I mean, Rodney and Eric are already quite distracting. But that's the first thing you've said that I might think about. That energy in that room. Oh, my God. Everyone chasing tails. I'd be involved. One thing staying relevant is short of his energy. And finally, obviously, we should only be hiring people with a degree, right? No. Why not? Because you'll miss out on loads of top talent if you just look for people with a degree. I mean, if someone's got a degree in engineering, yes, they've got a degree, but it's not relevant to what we're doing, is it?
40:17It doesn't make a difference. We haven't even got degrees. I know, that's why I love it. No, I don't think we need people with a degree. I think we need people with life experience and relevant experience to what we actually need them for. And if we just say we want people with a degree, we're going to miss out on loads of different types of people. People that will be more suited for us as a company. Like, do they fit in? Do they fit in with a team? Do they fit in with how we work? They're more important things than whether or not someone can pass an exam. Yeah, well, I agree with you there, to be fair.
40:43We need to find the right person. And we can't be looking at a CV like a tick box then, can we? Well, so I think basically what we're agreeing is that having a degree isn't the most important thing to get you noticed. Which is why Indeed is so good, as an Indeed profile lets you showcase what really matters. Yeah, that is true. On Indeed, actually, you can get noticed for the important things, you know, like your real world experience and skills, not just a piece of paper, you know? Which is why it's so important as it means it's fair on job seekers and employers who can filter candidates based on actual skills, resulting in a more diverse collection of candidates.
41:16So to create your Indeed profile today and find a role that's the right fit for you, download the Indeed app. And maybe, just maybe, we can be hiring you. What is Pippa's favourite drink? I think you're a ginger beer gal. I think she likes matcha. That's so basic. You basic like that. So we do a question box every week. Goes up on the socials at Staying Relevant Podcast. This is your opportunity to ask us kind of anything. So, obviously, we've got Yvita here. So, very, very special. Am I special? Of course you're special. I'm precious. You're precious. Very much. Very much. Okay. Good. So, we've got some questions specifically to do with you.
41:57First one, did the O2 dance on the night go exactly as planned or did anything go wrong that we don't know about? Well, yes. Obviously. Obviously. I don't know if you followed me on Strictly, but I didn't do anything right. Nothing was ever perfect. One time. One out of 13 dances on Strictly, I did right. Yes. Which one? The tango. Only one. Out of 13, one that I didn't make any mistakes on. Yeah. Apart from almost taking me down in the end of the dance. Yeah, part of it. When you were going on your knees. But let's not count that in. So technically none. None. Like, none. I'll take it on me. So the O2, of course, things went wrong.
42:47Absolutely, they did. I mean... Yeah, I think you... Well... Were you even there? What do you mean? Like, were you there with me? Because I think you've been very nervous. Yeah, I was absolutely petrified. That's probably the most petrified I've been. I was more nervous about the dance at the O2 than I was the rest of the show. And you put it in the end? Yeah. Yeah. Wow. So I had to get through the entire show and parts of the actual show didn't go right. And then, yeah, I put a lot of pressure on myself. I mean, if we start technically with the start, the drop down bit. I mean, everything could go wrong.
43:31And I think the most dangerous part was the beginning because every time I was swinging a different way. Yeah, that was really difficult because you weren't in the right thing and that's not your fault. She had no control. No. She had no control over what angle she was going to be at during that bit. And sometimes it was great. And when we did it like in the fucking two rehearsals that we had, it would be fine. But the rest of the time it was different angles. So it was awkward. And on the night it was an awkward angle and that's completely out of your control because the thing was fucking spinning.
44:03No, it was fine. I dropped into your arms. I caught you. You caught me. It was a good start. Nothing happened. No. That wasn't, that was fine. I was so unbelievably nervous. There were steps that were missed. A little bit. A couple of different steps. The main problem was the jump off the stairs because I was too far away. Yeah. Your foot got the ground. I think because you lost it in the middle, you stopped listening to me. Yeah. Because I was counting for you, but you were literally. Yeah. I was away with the fairies. I don't know. What was their thought? I was panicking. I went into panic mode because I thought I'm going to fuck this up.
44:45Do you want me to say the truth? Yeah. About that O2? Yeah. I was panicking as well.
44:53Why were you panicking? Why? Yeah. How many people were watching? 15, 16 ,000. Great. I'm hanging up from the piece of fabric. And if I'm not going to be on the perfect angle, you're not going to catch me. And we're going to both just fall and roll over and it's done. Because that's the beginning of the performance. So if that's not going to work and I break you, great. Well, you can't break this out. It's already broken. Let's be honest with you. I'm fucked and I. But I didn't know that. I didn't know that you were panicking as well because I've never seen you panic. Yeah, because also I was pretending all night I'm super fine and I was calming you down and the moment you were leaving, do your thing, I was literally shaking because also I didn't want to let you down.
45:43Well, you obviously never let me down. I think I was disappointed in myself like I was every time. But you're always disappointed. Yeah, well, I just wanted to make it because it was, do you know what, the O2 dance and why we did it was quite special for, well, for me, but I think I would hope for you as well. For us, yeah. Because it was, we were originally going to do that in the final, if we got to the final. So if we made it into the final, it was going to be like the, what do you call it? Show dance. Show dance. And we never obviously got a chance to do that. But other than that, we kind of completed strictly, other than one dance, because everything else we'd done.
46:24Yeah. So, and I was gutted. I wasn't gutted that I left in the semi-final because I think it was absolutely right because I was the worst dancer there but I was gutted that she didn't get to make a final because she deserved it for dragging me through 12 weeks so I always said to you we would do it one day and then so we said we'd do it the O2 and it was nothing in the lead up to it was how I wanted it to be it was so busy at the time we didn't have enough rehearsal time And we never really had, we had 15 minutes on that stage. The stage was different when we got there. It was two foot fucking shorter.
47:00And instantly, I like structure. I like things to be, this is exactly how it is. There were so many minor things. Yeah, but it was fine. That affect me because then I'm like, well, that's not right. It's not fucking perfect. And when something's not perfect, I can't, I struggle with it. And dancing, I'm obviously nowhere near perfect. I'm shocking at. So when other things happen, it sends my whole brain into a fucking meltdown. so to be honest with you I'm surprised they didn't got through it because it was tough for me but I think we pulled it off you think? that was the best night ever in my life that was the most important the most proud moment of my whole career as a dancer really?
47:47yeah I mean it was one of them things like we we've never spoken about you and i publicly um about that but it was genuinely a really really special special moment for you and i yeah to to be able to do that and the reason i was so genuinely so fucking nervous is because i like out of all the things we've done like strictly um was amazing and i loved the whole thing because i was i got to do it with you and you dragged me through all of it but it was a competition and it was kind of like a job you know I mean like I had to do it every week I didn't have to do the O2 I chose to do the O2 and I chose to do it with you because you mean so much to me and you'd already choreographed this this thing and because you believed I'd we'd get to the final and I wasn't good enough I didn't get you there so I wanted to be able to to to do that so that we had the whole thing together but the special part of it was it's not we didn't have the whole thing together because i had to we had the whole thing together because i wanted to does that make sense absolutely and that's why it was such a special thing and you know the not the whole night of the o2 i was so fucking stressed and just on that note there's another question here was any behind the scenes gossip from the o2 um yes and there's something very special coming which you'll be able to see some of the behind the scenes and and you'll be able to see some of the behind the scenes of Yavita and I's dance, but what went into the O2 the whole night.
49:22And I said to you afterwards, I couldn't process the entire night full stop because I was stressed out of my nut from two weeks leading up to it. The actual day, I can barely remember. I barely remember being on the stage. I haven't processed any of the stuff until what we've got coming up when you get to look back on stuff. Did you watch it? Did you watch it already? Yeah. But even, yeah, there was, of course there was mistakes in the in the fucking dance between me and you because it's me you know i mean but it's not you it's us no it's me no it's us no you're always perfect no it's us but we pulled it off and and and actually i didn't have the time to process any of that and the fact that we did that and the fact that you know 15 000 people watched that show what you and arduino put into that and what it meant to you and i and the fact that we got through it and yes there was mistakes but actually it kind of makes it more special there was mistakes because of course there was.
50:15Nothing is ever kind of perfect. Nothing we ever did on Strictly was perfect. And that was kind of the beauty of me and you on Strictly and what we did on that end of the O2 night is that the mistakes make it perfect for me and you. Does that make sense?
50:39You know what? I'm actually happy we didn't get to the final. Fucking so am I. Fuck it, I couldn't have done another fucking week. You could. Only because, oh, come on, you were gutted. I was gutted. You were gutted. No, no, no, in all honesty. No, no, no, because you know when you're so close to the final, it was literally one more week, you would make it work. It was a mixed bag for me because, like, I've spoken to Vicky about it. Obviously, like, Vicky was gutted when she left Strictly, and a lot of people are. I, in all honesty, I would love to have got to the final for pride and for ego and for you.
51:14but I knew from weeks before that I wasn't good enough. And I started, I was starting to feel bad about how many good people were going and, and like genuinely it wouldn't have been right. And I genuinely mean that for me to be in the fun, as long as me or Chris were in the, and Chris was always going to be there. Then it was, that was enough. Yeah. But I told you so many times, this show is not about who's the best dancer. It's about who actually improves and learn how to dance. and you've your journey you've made like an incredible progress i mean you still can't dance but but you can with me and in weird world i don't know how this works and i actually enjoy dancing with you yeah i think that's the thing like like for you and i are the whole thing with strictly and yeah like you know comments and the show and everything else and you kind of have to do it when you sign too strictly you kind of have to do it but from the first week it never felt like i had to do it it was always because i wanted to do it and i wanted to be in the final because i wanted to continue dancing with you but i think what you were about to say is that it's a good thing we didn't get to the final because if we had it done we probably never would have done the o2 anyway um well i've loved today did you so do you want to say goodbye yeah i want to say goodbye no see you later okay see you later if you want to be involved in the podcast then email hello at srproductions.co.uk make sure you rate review all of that crap follow us at staying relevant podcast we are all done any final thoughts do you want to say sometimes as a final thought just I struggle telling you this because I feel like we could be here for a while just a final thought maybe three or four words that sum up life four words to sum up life straight directly down the barrel of the camera.
53:07Yavita's four words to sum up life. Freedom. Love. Opportunities. No limits. Five words. Close enough. No, no limits. It's like a one. It's just with that thing. Yeah. I'm Polish. Please don't. Be nice. You've been almost nice for an hour. I know, I know. But then you have to just, you know, give her four words and she takes five. Because, you know, I'm extra. Yeah, you are.
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Sam is off on vocal rest this week so after all your messages, we finally made it happen. Jowita is back on the pod with Pete.
Pete and Jowita get straight into it with steamy films and Pete casually calling out Jacob Elordiand Margot Robbie over their very intense Wuthering Heights promo.We’ve also got a World Book Day dilemma after a listener’s child took in Staying Relevant. Plus we uncover a hidden skill none of us saw coming. Pete can plait hair.
And for the first time since the O2 dance, Jowita opens up about the build up and the performance, with a big reveal… she was also nervous.
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