Sam and Pete face their biggest critics yet

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1:57Welcome to Staying With The Bonus Episode. It's about me, Sam Thompson and Peter James Wicks, everybody. This episode will contain swearing. If you don't like it, go f*** yourself. This is the bonus episode, which means it's Thursday that this comes out audibly, which you can watch on Josh and Kira's YouTube channel from 5pm on Sunday. And then Monday's main episode, which came out audibly on Monday, You can now watch on Josh and Kira's YouTube channel as of 5pm on Wednesday, which is last night. So that means you can catch us on a... Monday, Wednesday, Thursday and Sunday. Wonderful. Make sure you rate, review, follow, do all of that crap.

2:35You know this score by now. As this is the bonus episode, it's mainly about you. So if you want to get in touch with us, then email the worst email address in the world, which is... Hello! at srproductions.co.uk. I hate it still. Love it. Absolutely despise it. And we've just had Alan Carr in the studio as well. You've probably already listened to it. Let us know what you think and rate our shit as well. Have you set that up now? Yeah. In the 15 minutes between that and go. I don't think Alan liked it, but it was unbelievable. I had a great time. Listen, you know, one of the things we said at Staying Relevant Productions, we were here to disrupt the entertainment industry and make some fucking magic.

3:14So why not create a website called Rate My Shit? Yeah, exactly. And get the legends on this pod. Yeah, I won't be partaking in the rake my shit thing, but, you know, it's good to know. Yeah, so you may have seen recently on YouTube what I call a terrible prank that the team, a.k.a. Pippa, played on me and Pete. Me and Pete, genuine, just a little bit of backstory. Me and Pete never normally get asked to do talks, right? and we get we get a call up from quite a reputable university to do what we think is a big careers talk in front of a massive audience and we were like you know this is gonna be fucking great let's do it we turn up it seems super professional we get in there and it's just we've I've never been blindsided so hard in my fucking life yeah I mean I was under the impression because it was based on media which is kind of Sam's bag that he was aware of what was happening in terms of the the slide Pippa had told me that Sam had seen the slide.

4:13So I thought I'll just sort of hang in the background and sort of blag as much as I can. As it turns out, neither of us had a fucking clue. And also the audience, quite good. The old stony faces, quite good. Fuckers. They played their part so well. At one point you heard one cough at the back of the auditorium. You're like, Oh my God, it, we would be bombed so hard. Yeah. Yeah. Do you know, at one point, the art, The worst thing I think for the entire thing was the motto. They were like, what's your motto? And our motto, if you listen to this podcast, is you never know, we'll have a go. And we were like, okay, this is nice.

4:50We're going to get to sell motto in front of loads of people and be like, this is why we have this motto. Anyone can achieve anything. And this fucking mountain comes up on the projector. And you know when you look at something, you go, I don't know, where the fuck we're going to go with this? The mountain coming up on the projector wasn't the big problem for me. It was your arsehole. in front of a university hall was a lot. I also, at one point during the talk, gave up with life and just started insulting everyone. That wasn't ideal. I apologise for my Welsh accent and to the lovely sort of professor, lecturer, lady who was there, who I repeatedly sort of told was old.

5:29We wore suits, Pepper. Yes. And you looked great doing it. No, we didn't. He looked like he was about to sell him a house and I looked like I'd just wrote some sort of weird novel and potentially come in and, you know, the police were after me. Yeah. I mean, at one point I had to tell them we were a reputable businessman, which we're not, but I had to say something to try and fucking resurrect what had happened. So if you haven't seen it, go and check it out on YouTube. I hope it got fucking numbers. It better have got fucking numbers. We're never doing that again. Emails. Here we go. So we've got Ellie.

6:01She goes, hey, boys. If the other person was a meal deal, what would they be? Main, side and drink. For example, if someone is boring, they would be a ham sandwiched, ready, salted Chris and a water. Just want to say I love you both and everything you do. Keep smashing it. Thank you, Eddie. That's very sweet of you. Well, I think you've just named what mine is then. You do like what you... Well, you know what I mean? The ready, salted Chris and water. So if I was going to call Sam a meal deal, I think he'd drink would be a Red Bull, high energy. You know what I mean? Gives you wings. Yeah. For a sandwich, you know, if we're going to go on the posh, it would be one of the sort of Tesco finest.

6:40I'm going to go with the roast beef and horseradish. Roast beef and horseradish. I would take it. Yeah, with a little bit of rocket. Oh. Yeah, yeah. And then crisp-wise, ooh. What would you be if you were a crisp? Do you know what crisp would be? Sam would be a disco. It's like flying saucer. That's so sweet. Discos, just the round sort of crisps. You know what a disco is. Is that an old school reference? You all know what a disco is. I'm not that fucking old, am I? Are they the ones that are like really tangy? Like you have like, and they're so salt and mint. So you try them and go, fucking hell, this is amazing.

7:13And then you have one, two men, you go, oh, fuck. And you get like blistered tongue. Yeah. So yeah. So Sam's a roast beef and horseradish. Quite spicy. You know what I mean? But fundamentally solid English, you know, roast beef. Horseradish is kind of the ADHD. Just a bit of spice you're whacking in there. Rocket, health. wellness you know what I mean you're in great shape Red Bull gives your wings lots of energy and discos sometimes too much yeah yeah you can eat one too many logically I've really thought that through probably more than I should have done great job there I would say if Pete was a meal deal he'd have to be an egg and cress no a pack of f***ing egg and cress I think because you know what you're getting and when you like it you love it otherwise it's quite underwhelming you never really like it some people swear by an egg and cress like people ride or die an egg and cress how do you feel about an egg or cress I like an egg or cress actually yeah not the worst not the worst in the winter but not a petrol station egg and cress no because they can send you west no but I'd say an egg and cress and then look you actually like this crisp Pete but I give you a McCoy oh I do love a McCoy you're a manly crisp rigid he's got ridges in him yeah he's got ridges in him a bit crispy you know what you're getting it's got a lot of crunch and you have it And you don't feel like a pussy when you're eating a McCoy.

8:35You crack open a McCoy and you go, I'm eating a fucking McCoy. Yeah. And out of the McCoy, out of the crisp sort of family, you go, you know, I feel like sort of the more manly crisp I'm having. It's the crisp hard man. Yeah. It's the crisp hard man. And actually for a, for a drink, I'd have you a little box of Ribena. I love Ribena. I know you do. A little box of Ribena for Pete. What, a flavour? Well, just a standard. Standard black cone. Standard black cone Ribena. And the reason being is just because I think, But actually, you're... A child at heart? You have a... No, but you have... Because those little kinds are quite little.

9:09But when you taste them, you're like, that's delicious. And I'd love a little bit more. And that's like, Pete, it gives you a little bit of sweetness. And you're like, oh, that will trump most other sweet drinks. But you never have quite enough. And also, quite old, right, Bean? They've been around for years. They have been around for years. Yeah. Yeah, nice. That'd be my meal deal. I think we've both got quite a lot of food there, to be fair. What an interesting one. I do feel like, whilst we're doing this, we might as well describe Pippa as a meal deal. Oh, Pepper is a meal deal. Oh, I know exactly.

9:33It was salmon and cream cheese. Oh, why? Yeah, I agree with that. Salmon and cream cheese. Gluten-free bread. You can't get it in many places, but when you do, it's a real find. Yeah, yeah. It's a real find, isn't it? Yeah. I'm taking that as a compliment. Yeah, in terms of a crisp, to be honest with you, I love you, but sometimes lacking in personality. So I'm going to say, don't apologise, darling. It's okay. We got used to it. I'm going to say a ready-sorted hula hoop. Yeah. I love a ready-sought Hulu. Yeah, you kind of like it. It's inoffensive, but it wouldn't be your first choice. And you play a couple of games with them as well.

10:10You put them on your fingers. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Oh, look at me. Piperan. Because she's Piperan, I'd go for one or two, actually. Knickknacks, because the alien on the front. So knickknacks, maybe. Or, and this is what I'd probably actually truly pick. Well, she could actually. If you're going to go on that with the kind of head, she could be like a packet of them poppadoms. similar to that forehead. Oh, yes. Nice and round. Yeah, big round sort of. Yeah. You can't beat them for enjoying them. I actually don't think, I don't think that you even have a crisp. I think Pippa would probably be like, because she is quite boring.

10:45Carrots and hummus. Carrots and hummus! Yeah. Like celery hummus or like a health bar. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Dried fruit. Fucking, what are those health bars? She's a, I'll tell you what she is. She's a bag of trail mix. Oh, she's a trail mix. Yeah, she's a trail mix. but what I will do for the drink just to throw in something that people might find interesting she's a yuzu really? a yuzu? oh she hates that yeah I was thrilled with the rest quite a watered down milkshake but it's still technically milkshake she's a matcher to me she's an iced matcher because she thinks she's like one of those sort of Tala girls yeah yeah yeah sort of iced matcher and a and a Nutri bar yeah Yeah, I like that.

11:31Nutrible. And whilst we're at it, he's staring right at me. Josh, really easy, that one. I'm going to be honest with you. Ready, salt, crisps. He's ready, sorted walkers. He's a cheese and branston. And he's a coconut water. Yeah, yeah. I love coconut water. Yeah, well, there you go then. Or just a water. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Not even sparkling. But also, he's not Evian. No, no, no, no, of course not. He's Mountain Spring. It was a Cornish one. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It was the Cornish one. Yeah. Listen, it does a job. You need to eat. You have to eat, but you don't really want to. You don't feel like it, but you've got to force something down your throat.

12:08And that's what we do with Josh. It's something to force down your throat.

12:14I don't even know what to say about that. Hey, fuckers. Was doing my usual doom scroll through TikTok and came across a video that may pique Pete's interest. It's called Rating Brits Outfits. link attached, which I'm sure producer Pippa can take care of. Love you. And if it's worth anything, you're my style icon, Pete. Love Lorna. Okay. Right, have we got it? Rating Brits out. Yeah, I'm going to enjoy this even more after the previous email. Ready salted hula hoop over here. I don't know. I don't know what to say because I feel like you just wear this same thing every single time with a red carpet.

12:50So I actually don't have anything to say. Oh. Which is a shame because I love that fella's hoodie. the sort of dirty, scruffy hood. And you look great there. Do we know this guy's handle? No, we don't. It's not in the thing. Do you know? How am I keeping it that way? No, I think, look, if he's going to rate Pete Salfrey, let's give Pete a chance to rate him. Listen, the likelihood is we won't be able to air any of what I've got to say. I have different suits made specifically for each event. So it hadn't been worn before. Rattles. I would also just like to point out that I was also in the Brit's best dress list.

13:30So I'm sorry, Anna Wintour, that you weren't a big fan of that. But it's nice to always have your opinion. And as I say all the time, opinions are like arseholes. Everyone's got them. And most of them are sort of just full of shit. Well, there you go. But it hasn't bothered me in the slightest. I'm absolutely okay with that. Thank you ever so much for just including me in your poll. And I hope the job at Vogue works out for you. fucking hell come at me bro oh god cannot have a go you've got mate whatever your name is if you're gonna have a go at Pete it can't be fashion oh actually I think we've got the name it doesn't take it well no listen it could be anything it could be anything listen it's nice to be included I actually didn't mind my Brits yes it might be simple but I think sometimes people try too hard on it as a man also it's kind of like what do you do not do much yeah what else would you wear if people have got options for me for the next red carpet and you'd like to throw them in you know what would you like to see Sam and I wear on a red carpet we could do a sort of a Sam Smith and wear sort of inflatable balloons which I'm sure you'd love I would like to push it that sort of that far or a Harry Styles ballet shoe you know what I mean like I don't know what else can we wear other than a suit well look Pete to be fair mate at least you're making it onto some sort of list the only list I've made it on is the no I'm not going to say what you thought I was going to say just then I've only ever been on Worst Dressed I've only ever been on Worst Dressed What was that for?

15:01The Crocs Are you surprised? You are You are surprised about wearing pale blue Crocs To the biggest night of television Making a statement You can still be comfortable I must say Whilst we're talking about Brits outfits I think that's one of your best Red carpet looks Do you know what Pete? That's very sweet. Do you know what? I've come to realise. I think you look very dapper. I've come to realise that actually I just want to sort of like look normal. Like I just don't want. So when are you getting rid of the mullet? I want to blend in. I want to blend in and I don't want to stand out. So actually I would quite like what that guy said about you, I would love.

15:41Yeah. I mean, listen, it's, listen, if it ain't broke, don't fix it. You know what I mean? I mean, you didn't have your brooch on. Disappointed about that. Well, yeah. I mean, the brooch has been a thing. You know, I've done kind of the brooch for a year and I feel like everyone that does You know, we don't need a brooch. Just nice. I mean, I sort of look like the vertical version of a zebra crossing, and I'm happy with it. Monochrome. I enjoyed it. So fuck you. How's that? How do you like them apples, buddy? Hey, how do you like them? And I will, just so you know, and if you're aware and you've listened to the pub before, I don't take keyboard worry as well.

16:18So I will be finding your handle, and I will have a little look. and I will judge you based on what you wear. I can only see from the shoulders up there and I'm not happy. But do you know what? I'm going to add a little something to that. I never understand people who fucking go on TikTok and rate the outfits of people who go onto the red carpet. It could never be me. It could never be me to care enough about someone's fucking outfit to like go on and be like, oh, they look like shit. Talking of outfits though, I think it's a good time to bring up that we've had the return of the stylist for Sam.

16:51and recently, I must say, been looking very good. Today, Sam's got a little shirt on, a cropped shirt as well, which is very nice. He's got his new trainers on and he's gone well with the jeans. Loafers have made an appearance recently along with tight-fitting cashmere jumpers, which again, and as much as it sounds like I'm taking a piss, I think you look very good at the minute. Thank you, mate. I appreciate that. So we have had, is she sort of on a six months on, six months off? Do you know what? She hasn't been on for a while. I thought you said that she was the one with the loafers. What I've done is I, you know, she did, but they're a bit old.

17:24She, I basically just, this is just how lazy I am. I've looked at what she's got me in the past and then just gone on those websites and be like, I like that. Oh, so you've got, you've recognised the brands and then suddenly. I'll take a bit of that down to be fair. But I would love, I've wanted to do this for so long is start Pete a TikTok, right. And then get him rating and reviewing things and reviewing people. I think it would be so much fun to sort of like, let's get Pete to review sort of outfits and sort of like things that you don't really care that much about. I think, I mean, yeah, the problem is I just don't care though.

17:56Yeah, but fun. We'd love to see it. I think after you've done sort of three or four, I'd just be like, yeah, looks the same as the last one. What, if you were to describe your style, what would you, what would you call it? I couldn't, I could not tell you, Matt, I have no idea. I don't, you know what I'm like. I literally just, I look in the mirror and I go, I think that looks okay. and then I get in here and I wait for the savagery and it's not even just Pete the savagery of the entire studio if I walk in and I look like shit I will get told immediately and I go ah I'm wrong listen I wouldn't take that too seriously because I must say staying relevant does a lot of things right style isn't one of them you're also hardly complimentary of everyone in the office I was going to broach that but I'm glad I walk in and you hammer me yeah but it's because you're like my sister okay well I'm allowed to do it to you then you are allowed to do it to me Stop complaining about it.

18:49I put my clothes on. I literally, this is, Jenny, this isn't even, I don't even think about Pete. I think about Pippa when I get changed. I literally, ooh. Whoa, it's me. I do. I walk in and you're like, oh, I'm ready for the army. Oh, got your hiking trainers on. Oh, yeah. Oh, you look like you're off to church in that, with that neckline. How long have you got? You think about me. I literally, I go, I go, I go. We've started something. Karen's back. Pippery. I literally look in front of the mirror and I swear, so I've got, God, I hope I don't get bullied by Pippa today. Shut up. I just fucking hope this jacket is up to far.

19:22I would definitely say, I would definitely say over the last few years, you have put more effort into outfits and styling. Yeah. So you must, you must, because previously, and we all know the period of time we're talking about, as do you, it was a case of, I will wear the same hoodie until it has holes and the stains remain on it for a year. Yeah. I don't care. Yeah. Now, now, now you've, you've entered an element of care. that doesn't mean that you're obsessed with it. No, you're right. But now you must think in the morning, okay, what goes - 100%. Which I think is great. And that's part of the grow up.

19:50Mate, because do you know what? And we've said it before, I'll say it again. I keep like stumbling over old photos, Pete, and I look at myself and I do just look at me. And you did try and tell me. Like you did try and tell me. Pete would look at me sometimes and I would look like really bad. And Pete would be like, mate, like you're like one of my best friends. I do just want to let you know. Have some respect for yourself. Yeah, mate, he literally would say that to me. He'd be like, you need to just have a little bit and respect for yourself. I will never, ever forget. There's comfortable and then there's this.

20:16Yeah. And then obviously the time he's talking about last year, he literally goes, I think it's time. Yeah. He goes, I think it's time. If there's ever an opportunity for you to have a good go at this. Have a good go at it, now it is. Yeah, never know, we'll have a go. Anyway, right. So we're going to move on to something big. It's been announced this week. Sam is hosting a pod show. Yeah, we're doing Unpacked. Unpacked. We're doing Unpacked again, baby. Come on. Is it called Unpacked? Yeah. I don't want clapping myself. That was loud. So you're doing Unpacked. We're doing Unpacked for the Legend series.

20:50Yes, which is the South African one. So we've got, line-up has been announced. Adam Thomas, Harry Redknapp, Sunita, Gemma Cones, Ashley Roberts, Scarlett Mofar and David Hay. Yeah. It's a big line. Do you know what? I'm a massive I'm a celeb fan. and that line up to me, right, is something that I would probably rather watch than even the main show. Because these are all people that I've grown up watching. Harry fucking Redknapp, Back in the Jungle. I'm so in for that. So, I mean, as alumni of I'm a Celeb, not just alumni, a winner of I'm a Celeb. I don't know if you know, but Sam won I'm a Celeb and is the king of the jungle.

21:35Still, you can never take that away from him. Who is your money on? Oh my God, I don't know. I do know. I'd say Harry Redknapp again. I just think he's fucking brilliant. We did a little - Previous winner. Yeah, he's a previous winner. We did a Q &A with them literally last week and we like introduced all of the cast members to the press and they were fucking brilliant and we saw a sizzle of the show. It is so, so good. And look, this isn't even a show that I'm obviously Hannah Depp host it and like I just do the, I'm doing the unpacked version of it. But like it, I cannot wait. You're going to absolutely love it.

22:09And do you know what? Something happened, which I was, I was like, oh no, I didn't really. Gemma Collins came up to me and she went, how's Pete? Did she? Yeah. And I went, oh, he's really good. She went, I've always liked Pete. Oh, did she? And she comes up to me. She's like, how are you Sam? I'm like, I'm really, really well, thank you. I'm very excited to watch you when I'm a celeb. She looks great in the sizzle. She goes, I just got to tell you something, Sam. I hope you don't think I'm being rude. I was like, oh, fuck, here we go. She goes, I hate your barnet. She went, I don't know what you're doing with this dark hair thing.

22:38You need to go back blonde because whatever's going on now, it's just not it. And I literally went, fuck, I actually think I might go back blonde because of that. Because of Gemma Collins? Well, I don't know. I was just, I was taken aback. I'm super excited for this. First of all, love the show, love Unpacked. So what are you going to be doing on Unpacked then? So basically doing a, if you've ever watched Traitors Uncloaked, it's pretty much like identical to that. We basically get the ex-campmates on to talk about their time on the show. We get like a super fan on who comes on and we just talk about everything that happened really.

23:13And we literally do it week, every single day of the week, as long as the show's on. And then for the final, this is fun. They basically crown the king or the legend or king or queen or whatever on a live show. on ITV. So obviously it's pre-recorded up until the final vote for the King. So no one knows who's won yet? So no one knows who won. The actual winner will be voted for live by the viewer. Obviously you've already seen it of you. So do you know he's in the final three? No, I don't actually watch this. I don't watch it until we do the Unpacked show. But I get to host Unpacked live on ITV2.

23:53Oh, wonderful. It's the first show that I've ever hosted live. And are you doing this with Kemi? Me and Kemi, yeah. So she did Unpacked with you the year before. She's amazing, no? Yeah, she's fucking brilliant. But obviously Joel is like the host of Unpacked and me and Kemi would sit on the sofa and obviously we were part of it. It's like Maya in Aftersun a bit, right? But this one, there's no Joel holding down the floor. It's just me and Kemi. So are you nervous about this? Yeah, but I'm fucking excited. I've never hosted my own show before, ever. Like not a live show in front. It's in front of a live audience.

24:29Like a studio audience? Yeah. Is there 16 ,000 of them? Mate. You'll be fine. Well, exactly. But I mean, I am mad. I'm nervous, but I'm really excited as well. We get to do autocue and all that kind of shit. I imagine there's some great guests for that podcast. Yeah. I've only just found out as of today that one of the guests for Unpacked is our very own Peter James Witts. He's coming on. I can't believe they matter. How much did they beg you to come on? It was, can you do Sam a favour? To which my response was yes. I've never seen the show. I'm not entirely sure what's going to be happening. I didn't realise that I was going to have to spend a day watching the show with you to then talk about it.

25:12So I didn't even watch it when I was out there. So listen, it's going to be a struggle, but you know, brothers in arms, it's your fucking big TV gig. I'll be there. I will be there. My money again. Listen, love Harry Redknapp. Jimmy Bullard's a good friend of mine. I like Jimmy. Jimmy's, yeah. Jimmy's going to be doing it. And David Hay, I know as well. The rest of them, it's nice. Scarlett won it. Scarlett Moffat won it in her season. We love Scarlett. She's really excited for it, to be fair. So yeah, it's going to be really amazing. I love it. I'm really, really glad to be doing it back in the saddle.

25:43So yeah, that'll be very fun. I also saw another clip from your press day with that when they asked everyone who their dream campmate would be. Oh yeah. Stop saying me. No, I won't ever. I think you'd be fucking amazing in it. No. I think I just, I just keep saying, the problem is they'll keep inviting Pete, he'll keep saying no, and then the execs keep catching me like, why do you keep saying Pete doesn't want to do it? But yeah, I will always say, I said on that, in that interview, I was like, he'll either win it or kill someone. There's not like a bit in between. And ITV love that sort of unpredictability.

26:18Nothing like a safe pair of hands. He'll either get dragged out by the cops or he'll fucking win it by a landslide. No, I'm going with win it by a landslide. Question time. Question time. We do love a little bit of question time. And this one's about one of Pete's favourite artists on the planet. Just love him. Mr. Harry Styles, his new album is called Kiss All The Time Disco Occasionally. And I don't know. I feel like it's an interesting album name, Peter, isn't it? You know, it's come out. He's broken records already for the album coming out. You know, what would your album name be? All the Time Tequila Occasionally.

26:58That's a fucking great name. That is actually phenomenal. That's brilliant. What about if we released an album together? What do you think ours would be called if we were to do that together? Oh, God. Fuck, I don't know. Together, if we did a joint album, maybe we should do a joint album. Podcast all the time, TikTok occasionally. TikTok occasionally. I like that a lot. pod all the time, tick occasionally. As a big fan of Harry Styles, I mean, you mentioned it in the Alan Carr pod, favourite song, Walk, Med and Sugar. What are some of your other top tunes? Why do you do this? Does it to me every single fucking time.

27:34Pete's the kind of guy who knows that I don't know all the Harry Styles songs. I just, why say it? And I'll tell you why I'm saying this. I know. And I'll tell you why I'm saying this, because the next question is, how do I go from being a people pleaser to not caring what people think? And I feel like, fine. I couldn't give a fuck about Harry Styles. There we go, son. No, but I say that, Then you get all the fucking people coming after you. I just, I couldn't give a shit. But this is, this is why this is a perfect question is because I feel like you, you can be a people pleaser. Mate, massively.

28:03Because you, yeah, which is not a bad thing by the way, because that makes you very likable and everyone loves that. I don't mind it. I'm the opposite of that, but do you know what I mean? So this is a good thing. If I was to give Pete Wicks, a proper Pete Wicks opinion on Harry Styles, his albums, all that shit, I'd say, do you know what? When he first started going solo, I actually did quite, I loved Waterman and Sugar, thought it was great, used to fucking like, listen to it all the time in the car. Couldn't name you any other songs to be fair, but I reckon if I heard them, I'd probably be like, oh, that's Harry Styles.

28:32And he's all right. Yeah, nice. He's okay. There you go. He's all right. He's okay. Harry Styles, you know, seems like a nice bloke. Yeah, and I agree with that. I'm indifferent. But I sort of have to, I'm kind of indifferent, but I have to be like, I fucking love him. Yeah, but this is the people pleasing thing. So that's why this next question. It feels great. There we go. So this is a priming... So the next question genuinely is, how do I go from being a people pleaser to not caring what people think? And there's a number of ways you can do that. Firstly, you can get an arsehole as a mate who will allow you to be free and say what you like.

29:06So if you are, just start that way. But this is a really good thing because I think we can actually probably logically answer this question based on the fact I don't really give that much of a fuck and that's why a lot of people think I'm a fucking prick. But you can be a people which just wave on lunch. it's not where i thought we were going no but it is because i have to keep tensing my arsehole and being like yeah no i love it so so this person is how do they go from that i mean but you've had recently some rants on the pod where you have you have come away from people pleasing and you're finding your voice yeah how have you done that how i've done that is it is it an age thing i think it is i genuinely believe that when you get to a certain age you start just being like Like, do you know what?

29:49Like, I know you start knowing who you are and you're just like, I just, I know what I like. I know what I don't like. I don't want to be rude to anyone. But like, especially being in this industry, I feel like you have to have an opinion on things you actually don't give a fuck about. Yeah. To be honest with you. And, but yeah, I think as you get older, you just, you stop caring. You never really cared though, to be fair, Pete. You've had quite a good run of not caring. Well, I think that like, obviously Sam and I do different kinds of jobs and I don't often get booked for opinions. based on the fact that the general response is, meh.

30:23I'm indifferent. Not great for a fucking show, is it? Do you know what I mean? When someone goes, meh. Whereas you get booked for a lot of opinions. If you look at Love Island and like I'm a Celeb and all them sort of thungs where it's like, thungs? It's all them sort of thungs. But you know, I get really into things. So like when I do like something, I like - You're hyper fixate. I hyper fixate. So for example, Love Island a few years ago, I was fucking deep in because I just loved it. We had lockdown, obviously, so I was literally just binge watching it. And then The Jungle, always been a massive fan.

30:52Things I love, I love. But then there's other things I just cannot get into. I think that sort of turned me on a little bit there. That was love. Oh, come on, son. Yeah, no, I think, listen, it's tough. People pleasing is actually a really nice trait, I'm going to be honest with you. As much as I can, it's a nice thing to do because you want to make people happy. but in the same respect sometimes by making other people happy you make yourself unhappy because you're not being true to yourself well yeah you can get tired so really my advice be an arsehole yeah be that friend there's always a friend in the friend group they're just like they'll give you the honest answer like you know if i whether you want it or not oh man i've like dated people for and i've been gone up to pee and being like what do you think he's like not for you and i'm like fuck i can't pin her off it's actually that simple i think there's also this is a thing about opinions as well.

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33:48Putting your opinion in no matter what Makes you an arsehole If someone asks you Gotta give an honest Give it to them Gotta give an honest That is one of the things When people go Well listen I'm not here to fucking please everyone Just say nothing then Yeah yeah yeah You don't need to say anything Unless someone specifically goes What do you think? I need to know what you think Then I'll say what I think But if someone's having a conversation About saying I don't care I'm going F*** It's just you don't you know what I mean you're just doing that for the sake of doing it and then you are a bit of a prick because you know I hate people who go I'm just I'm just giving my opinion yeah I'm just an open book what you see is what you get I'm just telling you what I think but I didn't ask you yeah oh god I fucking hate it because that's just entering yourself into something for absolutely no reason there's always someone who enters a reality show isn't there who's like that who goes like no I just say it how it is yeah yeah yeah listen I'm not here I'm just telling you it's people that like to stir the pot a bit yeah well my opinion really is this I didn't fucking ask.

34:40No one gives a fuck. If you ask someone's opinion, you don't like it. That's your own fucking fool. Don't ask. And that's again, why I don't ask opinions. Yep. Great question that. Really good question. This is a thinking man's question, this one, I'm going to say. So just take a minute, read it first and I'm going to read it out and just have a little think about this. I know my answer. Okay, fine. If you switch lives with someone in the team for a day, who are you choosing and why? Okay. Pepper. Right. 100%. Why? Why would you pick Pippa Ann? Because Pippa Ann, to me, has one of the most interesting select group of friends that I've ever met in my life.

35:18I despise they all throw up. Yeah, I mean, they do, but that's what I would love. I like the gossip that Pippa has with her friends. It's just absolutely phenomenal. And Pippa's, like, entered this new life that she's got, where, like, she's, like, half podcast exec, half friends to the stars. She was at Sammy Alishi's fucking Love Island party a couple of days ago. Hell yeah. And then she was like, she was out on a Thursday night. And I was like, and I met her the next day. I was like, where the fuck have you been? She was like, oh, just a Sammy Alishi's sort of like, Love Island sort of like congratulatory party.

35:51I was like, how the fuck are you getting invited to that? The sort of the new life she's got, she's getting free meals at Sheesh. I just think it's a nice balance. It's been a while actually. Oh, you put in a request. Oh, good. I like that it's a good answer yeah that's a good answer nice and obviously you know it would be interesting for you to work out how to manoeuvre a head that big do you know what I mean through doors and stuff what angles do you have to you know what I mean getting in cars like fucking what some roots open and the cone heads I was waiting for Sam to say something rude about it and that sounds was actually quite nice yeah no I love you but I wouldn't want to be you and also you get to spend a day with Jack that would be nice me and him we just watched So Jack's Pippa's fellow, by the way.

36:35He's well into World War II like I am. You'd have to have sex with him. Yeah, but you know what? If it meant we could sit down and watch war movies together, do you know what I mean? You're okay with it? Yeah, the wager and yeah, all right. It's okay. It's okay. Okay, all right. Nice, nice. He's thrilled. I'd go and walk your dog, pixie poodle, fucking go to Devon or something. Nice, all right. Good, good, good, good. Who are you? Who are you? Do you want a serious answer? Well, whatever answer you want to give us. I would be you. oh why for a number of reasons the first being I'd like to see what happens in there you don't I wake up screaming it's tough for the new bird I wake up I wake up I wake up I wake up what's it like people say the night terrorism a lot actually do you know what Pete just saw me really on there quickly on that this morning this very morning she turned around to me and went are you okay what do you mean she goes well I came around to hug you like in the middle of the night and you were seeing it and you were so wet.

37:34She was like, I thought you'd pissed yourself. She was like, you weren't as you were just sweating. I've now got the night sweats. I must be so anxious at night that she's literally like, mate, you were like, you were sodding through. It's not for the pub. Did you piss yourself? No, I didn't. I didn't piss myself. I just, I'm sweating at night a lot. Sorry. Anyway. Well, apart from that, I mean, that sort of takes it away from me wanting to be you a little bit for the day. Starting to reconsider. But no, I'd like to know what happens in there. I would like to be as creative as you and know how all of that happens.

38:06But the second one, I also think people's response to you must be a really lovely feeling. So because you are one of the nicest guys in showbiz, and I think everyone, I don't know anyone that doesn't like you. Alan Carr. Alan Carr for one. Okay. I'm from my mouth when Alan tell me to shut the fuck up. So yeah, I think that would be nice. It would just be nice to see, like, what your reaction, because you love the reaction that people give you, like fans and stuff like that. And it's always, because it's always so kind. And do you know what I mean? People are nice. And I would like to get that reaction, not the reaction I get.

38:46What do you get? Oh, do you know what I mean? Oh, I'd love to, oh, I'd love to. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Like someone tried to grab my crotch at Crufts. Do you know what I mean? And I just thought, this isn't the time or the place. Like, I just thought, oh, it'd be nice if someone just went, you're a nice guy. Yeah. Like that'll do. I get pats on the head. Do you know what I mean? I would just like that for people just to go you're a really nice guy and I think that would be what would be nice I think people do but that's very very fucking lovely thank you I know and then if you want the other answer to that Josh it'd be fucking great I reckon you sleep upside down no well this is exactly it and I'll tell you why right this is a prime example that's part of the reason and it's because Josh is a man of many secrets yeah and what I mean by that is you know was in a band like even when we watch the O2 doc and it's like yeah and I've done arenas like this before and you're like what the fuck like he's had a man of many lives that I don't think we know about I feel like Josh is a bit like Madonna he's reinvented himself so many times I'd like to know he's hidden past and I feel like it would be nice to know what's up there so that's the main reason and then also other than you two the rest of the team are fucking boring Hannah's over there being like she's worn her glasses and everything today hey she's got slutty little glasses on Slightly little glasses And a gilet She's not a slut No I would No Well neither am I Yeah Yeah but just Slating What would you do If you were Pippa for a day What would I do for Pippa If I was Pippa for a day Actually do you know What would be incredibly interesting Being Pippa for a day And having to deal with You and I's bosses Would be so interesting Oh my god Because can you imagine What the fuck Yeah yeah yeah Do you know what I mean Because I reckon There's points of the day Where Pippa goes Like she must sit with the team if we're not in the office and go, oh, it's one of them do you know what I mean?

40:32Like the phone's going off and it's you and she goes, fuck's sake. Or the phone's gone off, it's me. Oh, fucking hell, this is going to go on. I'd love to be jacked for a day because I'd love to see what Pippa's up with. When she gets home. When she gets home, she puts a band and she goes, fuck it. She takes her windbreaker off. Yeah. She puts on her running gear and does a stretch. Opens a smeg fridge. What the fuck? Doesn't water the olive tree. Cottage cheese. You know what I mean? Yeah.

40:58you do. Oh, it's been another day, Jack. Let me tell you. No, but she goes, I guarantee, I can guarantee walk through the door and you go, oh, like that. You make that weird noise you always used to make. And then you walk through the door and you go, fucking hell, Jack. And you're in a miserable mood. Yeah. And you get on. Let me tell you who else is on the list today, Jack. I sometimes wonder like, you know, if, if, if we were ever in a video, you know, when some people say we're in a simulation and you're like, I do sometimes just think fucking whoever's picked me as a character, like do better.

41:28You know, if we're like playing GTA. What the fuck are you talking about? I just sometimes think like, do you know what? Like, just do better. What, whoever's created you? Yeah, because loads of people think we're in a fucking simulation. That's really sad. What? Sorry, am I missing the point here? Put some fucking cheat codes in or something. What, for you? Yeah. What as in for you living your life? What are you talking about? I understand. Do you know what I mean? Like, people say we're in a simulation. People say we're in a game. That someone's playing a game and we're all in a game. There's basically a massive conspiracy theory.

41:59and this is actually like scientists believe this, Pete. They think that we are in a simulation. No, no, no. So a scientist believes there's some prick somewhere who's controlling me with a joystick. That we're in a game. Exactly, mate. So someone's made me do that. Yeah, so someone thinks... Someone's going middle finger button, middle finger button. So someone is basically in the world that is being created like a GTA, but in a lot more of a techie time. What, and someone's picked our characters and gone, I see you are. I'm going to live on the world. on the earth as them and I'm going to go through kill me kill me yeah kill me and like they choose your little outfits every day they'll be like oh we'll pop him and his cowboys today and I just sometimes sit there and go fucking are you like imagine watching me have a wank like do you know what I mean like well but then well but they wouldn't be watching they'd be the ones doing it they'd be double tapping Annie how weird is that it's like watching it's like going like doing the sims and be like oh they're getting raunchy in bed but mate this is a genuine thing where people genuinely believe that we are in a simulation.

43:01Okay, how would they stand up in court then if I go out and punch someone in the head and then go, it weren't me, it's whoever's controlling me. Yeah, well, exactly. Dude, but genuinely that is a thing. So like if someone's looking at us now and they're literally like, I'm controlling you, I sometimes look up and go, put a cheat code in. Do you know what I mean? Let me like fly. Or some people think this is a reality show. Like Truman. But where they've like, there's aliens who are just watching everything so we could be the stars hold on we've gone from a real life sims now we're on aliens yeah yeah yeah we're like the stars of an intergalactic reality show and like imagine if like we so the whole world is big brother yeah and they're like just rooting for like Hannah do you know what I mean and they're literally like come on Annie you've got this do you know what I mean they must fucking hate me then because my life's a fucking mess well this thing though because we all have that innate feeling that we're the main characters obviously in our own story right interesting but do you believe that sometimes if I'm ever having shit I sometimes sit there and I go god imagine if like millions billions of millions sorry which question sorry I'm so confused by this whole thing what question are you asking does he believe he's the main character or does he believe that there's a conspiracy theory where he's being controlled by an alien I mean does he believe he's being like watched on telly or controlled by other people well he is he's got an ITV live show and he reckons he is so hold on so now of course it's like Inception now so he's being watched on telly by aliens but appearing on telly for the humans and the other people this is probably like a massive episode for them because we're like cracking it right now so this is the start of the Truman Show when he starts noticing they're all going to be like shit they're figuring it out this is like some probably premiere that's been like advertised for weeks if you're watching and it's incredible because obviously this is also going to signal the end of this podcast because everyone has stopped listening now so Pete next time it was fun while it lasted Next time you're having a dump, just think how many people are watching.

45:00What a lovely episode this has been. Thank you so much for tuning in to this bonus episode. With me, Sam Thompson and Peter, James, Jonathan, Joseph, Wicks. At Staying Relevant, we adore you. Make my life more fun. Yes, mate. This is what I mean, though. So many things I want to do. I would love to go on safari. I'll take safari. You don't control me, buddy. I would love to go safari with you. Just let me go. I would love to go safari with you. Also, lottery. I actually think I'm going to win the lottery one day. Yeah, because, I mean, if ever there's a man that needs it. Make sure you rate, review, follow us on socials at Sam Redmond Podcast.

45:36Keep your fingers crossed for Sam's lottery win. And we'll be back on Monday with a main episode, a very special main episode, because Mr. Robert, Samuel Robert DeCoursey Thompson is going to be filming Unpacked. So he's away. so I have got an incredible co-host who I think could be my spirit animal yeah that's all I'm saying can I just say I'm very sorry I've actually left Pete in the lurch twice now that he's had to go and deal with so I really appreciate that but do you know what it's okay because we support you and we support your career I feel like most people comment being like thank god he's gone no they don't everyone whenever you come back it's thank god he's back this has been a Staying Relevant production Hola, soy Natalie Marcus, nutróloga y conductora del podcast Las 3 R's.

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