


Sam and Pete (Staying Relevant) discuss listener emails, the podcast’s “Staying Relevant” name history, and “showing off” behaviors; they also play a Q&A segment and talk about their most recent search history, including The Traitors.
No external guests; hosts are Sam Thompson and Peter James (Jonathan Joseph Wicks).
“Staying Relevant” was the original name and will never be “relevant,” despite early YouTube comments calling it “shit name.” Sam says he’ll reply to some listener emails weekly. Sam reveals throat surgery again for vocal nodules; general anesthetic is “amazing.”
Caitlin’s “engagement flex” and examples of flexing (new jacket, sunglasses, baby/renovation/car tours, Christmas “round robin” cards, name-dropping with pauses, gatekeeping music). Search history examples: vintage Rolex, a sent PDF to a bank, James Blunt best roasts, and “World War II”/Focke-Wulf FW90.
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Hosts read a heartfelt email from a listener named Lauren.
“The email address is hello at srproductions.co.uk.”
Discussion on whether they still like the podcast name 'Staying Relevant'.
“But the first comment under that first ever YouTube video was, shit name, good podcast.”
Hosts reminisce about how they came up with the podcast name and its significance.
“Yeah, we kind of just went with the first choice.”
Discussion on the idea of responding to listener emails more regularly.
“I would suggest the podcast is fairly vocal.”
Hosts share humorous personal anecdotes related to the theme of 'showing off'.
“We all came up with buying a new jacket, wearing sunglasses, getting questions right.”
Hosts express their opinions on various topics like sharing baby pictures and new cars.
“Anyway, Dinelli has got, have your company's back.”
Hosts dive into behaviors that can come off as showing off and societal pressures.
“A round robin is like when you're playing a fucking tournament, and it was a round robin.”
Explore the phenomenon of music gatekeeping and the desire to be a 'true fan'.
“Like when man, I need came out for the first time and no one really knew who Olivia Dean was.”
Discussion about surgery experiences and the effects of general anesthesia.
“Go on, Pete, you take the first one away.”
Debate on the merits of city breaks versus beach holidays.
“Yeah, like, let's go to Rome for the weekend.”
Light-hearted discussion on what their girlfriends might want to change about them.
“Like that doesn't feel very like beach holiday with me.”
Sharing surprising elements from their search histories, including humor and pop culture.
“a PDF I've just signed and sent to the bank, and James Blunt best roasts on Twitter.”
Discussion about the TV show 'The Traitors' and its interesting dynamics.
“You just sit around the fucking thing and say who's a liar and who's not a liar.”

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0:00Welcome to Staying Relevant, the bonus episode, a podcast hosted by me, Sam Thompson, and Peter James, Jonathan Joseph Wicks. It is the bonus episode, which means this comes out Thursday audibly and then visually on Sunday from 5pm on Josh and Kira's YouTube channel. And Monday's main episode, which came out audibly, you can now watch on Josh and Kira's YouTube channel as of 5pm last night, which was Wednesday, which means you can catch us on that. Catch us on a Monday, on a Wednesday, Thursday and a Sunday. Wonderful. Rate, review, do all of that crap. You know the score by now. They will be swearing if you don't like it, go f*** yourself.
0:37This is the bonus episode, so it's supposed to be all about you, which means you can get in contact with us at the worst email address in the world, which is... The email address is hello at srproductions.co.uk. Now, it's a very special day because Sam promised to do something a little while ago, and I believe he has done it. So this is the email I picked for the day. I scoured through the emails. We have, hi Pete, Sam and team. Just wanted to say I love the podcast. It's actually the only podcast I listen to on my commute. How are you commuting? That's important. And more recently, while on maternity leave.
1:13As I usually listen on Spotify, the YouTube channel actually saved me one night when I needed to pull an all-nighter whilst I was in hospital with my newborn who needed treatment. We hope that all went very well. So thank you, Digital Josh. recently whilst out and about doing the pram walk and listening it got me thinking now you're 200 episodes in do you still love the name staying relevant not saying I don't by the way just to clarify that but I'm curious whether you're still pleased with it and what the other name contenders were that didn't make the cut and does Pete now like to call us listeners the relevant is thanks for all the laughs looking forward to the next 200 from Lauren beautiful substantial email like it substantial anyway thank you for listening uh so we've got time for do i like uh listeners being called relevant as no no it's still fucking weird but i seem to have just adopted it now i think again persistence seems to pay off eventually i just give up um so yeah so sam why did you pick this email you know she's the first time you email her she actually had a genuine in question and i think actually do you know it's weird i was actually looking at the youtube so i want to see how many subscribers we're on i think it was maybe even last night and i went you know what i wonder what our first ever youtube video was so i scrolled all the way back all the way back all the way back it was like i think it's about four years ago three years maybe three years ago and um and the first first step no no it wasn't because that didn't go on youtube it was when we were in the other building with a big screen behind us it's so funny if you re-watch just made we still have our sheets of paper and it's it's fucking good i don't care what anyone says it's fucking good and literally we've got this screen behind us it's such a shit studio and we're like we're we're gassed like we are we're actually like this is pretty cool we've got that little drink trolley that you had in the middle of it and we're literally like well moved up in the world and if you were to look at it now you'd be like it's so shit and what you probably couldn't see is above the cameras the stuff hanging from the scene by masking tape Yeah.
3:20But the first comment under that first ever YouTube video was, shit name, good podcast. Wow. Yeah. 200 episodes in. Yeah. Still a shit name. Shit name, good podcast. I loved that comment. I thought it was so funny. It's so true. Because staying relevant, actually, back when we started this podcast, staying relevant was very much not the done thing. It was all like, how do we make it sound trendy? so you obviously got to die with CEOs or you've got like Jamie's is nearly weds and you've got like they're kind of like play on words ours is literally staying relevant like there's nothing nuanced about that whatsoever I don't know I actually think I do you know what I quite like the name still because I don't think we ever will be relevant and and and it's quite it's semi sort of vague if you don't know you and I but I still quite like staying relevant I don't mind it and we will never be relevant so So, yeah, I think it still works.
4:17I think it works more now than ever before, to be honest with you. And we already had that name because, as we've spoken about before, it was supposed to come from a mockumentary thing. So it was already the podcast just carried on from that name that we originally had. But I don't know what else we could have called it. I don't even think there were any other names in the hat. There wasn't really anything. in the hat. Yeah, we kind of just went with the first choice. I mean, the first thing that popped into our heads we just went, yep, that'll do. I remember me and Pete sat in my garden. I think we told this story before.
4:51We sat in my garden when we were trying to write this show for telly and I can't even remember how we came up with the name but we came up with the name in my garden and it just stuck. And I remember when I said, Pete, please can we do this podcast? The name was already we've got to use Staying Relevant. So we've never even deviated. There was never a chance that it was going to be anything different than what it is. so um what what other options do you think it could have been called hematoma and queef there you go see that i think that's the latest option if we were going to change it it would be terrible to have hematoma and queef productions but um as a podcast i think it i think that'd be like a really hematoma as like as a name and then we could call the office the hq hq i think something genuine i mean this like something really obscure that's like semi funny like that, I would take over something like that's a play on words that's kind of funny.
5:44Well, I mean, look, it was a serious question for once, which we don't often get on a bonus episode. Sam obviously loved it, so, you know, took it upon himself to reply. His response was, Hi Lauren, I hope this email finds you well. Full stop. No capital. Currently Pippa is away from her desk right now, and you are speaking to Sam! exclamation mark. Thank you so much for your correspondence, spelt wrong, and I'll be bringing this question to the team and Pete's attention, no capital, no apostrophe, so we can have it on the pod. P.S. Pippa's engaged, so good news all round. Best Sam Thompson, COO slash co-founder of SR Productions, KISS.
6:31So professional, I like it. Congratulations, Pippa. Thank you, news to me. so that was a lie yeah no not yet not engaged well I've got to say really like the idea are you going to be regularly responding to emails because I imagine there's lots of people that email in that are going to be slightly gutted that they didn't get an email back from the COO co-founder of SR Productions Sam Thompson I'd love to I feel like we should be I'd like to be more vocal with the people who listen so yeah I think every Wednesday are replying to a couple of emails. I think this is pretty vocal. I would suggest the podcast is fairly vocal.
7:15I think this is like the most vocal. I like to acknowledge. I think it's nice to acknowledge some of the people we've messaged in. And lie. Is it better to acknowledge and lie or not acknowledge at all? That's like Shakespeare. I think it's better to acknowledge and white lie. Yeah. So I'll be replying to a... But you say white lie. What happened if Jack had proposed last night and she said no, and this is actually, we didn't know this, and this was quite a touchy subject? And I'm holding back the tears. You'd never be able to tell on that face, but... Also, I've seen you cry so many times. You haven't?
7:52I've seen you cry a lot. I think you've seen me cry under five times. I'd say it's probably actually around five. That's not so many. Four years, I will allow myself to cry a year. I've seen a... Slightly above average of one a year. Yeah, I've seen a Pippa thrust. 1.25 times a year Pippa cries in front of Sam, which is a stat no one wanted or gave a fuck about. So are we saying now that weekly... I'm going to reply to a few emails for sure. I think I will. I'm going to log in. So weekly, so even more reason for you to email in is that you may get a reply from Sam Thompson. He said it here first, so next week we'll let you know what lies he's sent out to the audience.
8:35I feel like there could be a trend here happening. I would just precursor this with I'm also not engaged Can I just say the start to this new email please because I quite like this Caitlin who said this in Hi Sam, hey Pete or should I say hey boys Hate that I hate it Oh I just read the first line I recently got engaged I cannot help but feel like I'm showing off when I use the word fiance My group chat then got chatting about things that feel like showing off. We all came up with buying a new jacket, wearing sunglasses, getting questions right. I figured you two might have a few further suggestions, so do please share.
9:17Love you both so much and thanks for all you do. From Caitlin. Right. I mean, buying a new jacket, wearing sunglasses. That's showing off. Well, I would say what else are you supposed to do with a jacket and sunglasses other than wear them? Not wear it, yeah. Getting questions right. Sorry that being intelligent is showing off now. Yeah, but it's a bit ostentatious. What, to get something right? No, just wearing sunglasses a bit like, ooh. Look at me. Well, why are you agreeing? You've got a sunglass brand. Literally holding a pair in your hand. But you literally own a sunglass brand. Just trying to back you up, bro.
9:49Yeah, yeah, yeah. Do you know what? Sunglasses showing off. Just trying to have your back. Anyway, Dinelli has got, have your company's back. I've got your back. I've got your back till death do us part. But yeah, I would say, Caitlin, you and your group chat should all leave the chat because none of those things I would suggest are showing off. Showing off. Do you know what? Right, this is going to be controversial. Strap in. Go on. I don't want to see you, you newborn kid. But, yeah, I mean, I kind of agree. I'm sorry. I'm not saying this about Josh at all because I love Josh. That was so good.
10:36but in the same respect, I'm very guilty of no matter what I'm doing, going, do you want to see my dog? Yeah. I just, some people just don't. Yeah. But it does feel a bit like, great. It looks like a baby. What do you want from here? You know what I mean? I, I, I respect it. I respect it. I respect it. I, I like the way you're saying silence. Everyone just comes from me. You don't want to acknowledge. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, me out to dry there. I agree with you. I agree with you on the baby stuff. I fully agree. I hold a baby and I go, I don't know what you want me to say.
11:12It's not mine. So I'm with you. Yeah, I just say, it's just the... It's a baby. I would say if you get a new car and you're like, do you want to go for a ride? Or like, let me show you a new car. Or when you get a new car and like you get everyone in the office to go out and see it and sit in it. Who's done that? Or like when you get a new bike and drive it around the car park with people strapped on the back people let's go for a people saying no i don't want to yeah somehow having to force herself onto the back of a bike i i completely agree with that one as well yeah i feel like a new a new vehicle a house tour come in let me show you the house no i no don't get me wrong i am absolutely this is me to a nutshell i will literally do that like come see the garden but like like that i think is is is an element of like oh mate like i feel like a bit of an idiot saying it and now i feel like you think i think yeah renovations are kind of show off it yeah look at come and look at my reno to be honest with you i i i would go as far as to say having instagram mate a thousand percent facebook facebook i don't know much about that world mate do facebook was he facebook was worse like round robins you know and families send like a christmas card and it's a photo oh my god The Christmas card?
12:30A what? From the family. It's like a round robin. A round robin is like when you're playing a fucking tournament, and it was a round robin. It's when it's like a Christmas, it's quite American, it's like a Christmas card, and it's a photo of, like, mum, dad, all the kids, or whatever. And you get life updates. Makeup is all the kids. And then in the card, it's, oh, Christopher's just been made captain of the baseball team this year. Well, what happens if you had a terrible year? Both your kids are in prison, and your wife's died. You would probably not do the round robin that year. No, you would, but you'd make something up.
12:56I've seen like a lot of people who - The boys have gone away for a bit. Don't know when they'll be back. Yeah, exactly. It'll be something like that.
13:08Create the Christmas cards is an absolute wannabe flex for sure. This is another one that is just pure. My birthday, I'm such a lucky guy. I'm such a lucky girl. And it's just, it's not even showing what's in it. It's the boxes. Mountains. Oh, yeah, the Louis V. the brands the orange boxes like the red Cartier box and actually what's inside a pen you know what I mean like oh it's like big Selfridges box and you know it's amazing bought some aftershave did you want ask for the biggest bag oh I've got a good one have you heard this new song because that's yeah you know if someone thinks they found a song and they think it's like theirs and they're like okay I like it I get it it's like let me play this new track for you and you're like have you ever heard of what that's a But actually that I get gets quite noisy.
13:57Yeah. What? You've never seen, you've never heard of Olivia Dean. It's like, fuck off. Like when man, I need came out for the first time and no one really knew who Olivia Dean was. Everyone was jumping on that bandwagon playing Olivia Dean in the fucking office. I guarantee you now. There was that one person who'd sit there and be like, yeah, no, I've been loved. She's only just become mainstream now, but I've been loving all this stuff before. And Ray was another one. I remember like Ray, there were loads of people who would be like, no, I'd be following Ray for years. yeah following ray for years she's only just blown up i love her early stuff yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah that's that that's a really good one anything to do if you think you found it first is like and you've gatekeeped it then you're like no but you don't know them like i know them yeah oh yeah that's a good one any name dropping element as well and listen we all fucking do it sometimes but that sometimes can i add to that any name drop with a silence a small gap afterwards so like yeah i was just doing something with pete wicks um yeah and he was basically just do that you know when they leave a gap afterwards you're like oh you've just waited for that or what's worse or what's worse i think i agree with that one is when they go and do something with pete oh sorry pete wicks like i was just with my friend sam i just got pete yeah sam thompson um oh i love this game i bet this more.
15:22Probably. Question time. Question time. Go on, Pete, you take the first one away. Go on, Pete, ask me about myself. Yeah. Sam mentioned he's having surgery on another ep. Is he okay? Well, maybe, maybe not. Yeah. He might die. Yeah, let's leave Jeopardy. Leave Jeopardy. Do with a little bit of that. That's quite nice. How's he going to be? yeah just getting just getting surgery on my throat again yeah um just got just got some more nodules and my vocal cords came back too early from the last surgery that i had um and you won't be doing this time yeah which i won't so i'm actually taking uh four plus weeks off now from it started as eight and now it's gone down to four no not right now i'll be doing it in the new year i'm gonna try and power on through um and uh yeah two vocal cords cut out so and we're sending our best wishes tell you what's great really really good is general anesthetic oh my god that's class i'd never had it before have you ever been put to sleep oh my god it's amazing dude it's great because you get a bit nervous as well right so you're like you're you're lying there and you're talking to the anesthetist and like you're trying to like i feel like we've all been in this position when we're getting into like you're trying to act like you're fine so you're like chatting to them like you're talking as if it's like a really really chill day so like i imagine am i like your seventh or your whatever.
16:49And he's like, yeah, you're going to just fall in. And like, how's your day being? So I'm like, and then you go down. And I woke up. I think I told you this. I had my, I was naked. Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I woke up, I was naked. And then you're like, what have they seen in the surgery thing? But getting knocked out is fucking amazing. I've never had general aesthetic. It's pretty great. Second question, a city break or beach holiday and why? Oh. I think, I'm going to say, and I might be wrong here, and I feel like I know you incredibly well, but are you city break, potentially? Well, I don't think that is a good question.
17:29Based on, one is a break, and one is a holiday, and that's how I see it. A city break. One day with the same period of time. Then beach, holiday. Beach. I live in a city. I don't want to go and have a two-week holiday in another city. You know what I mean? But a city break, much better. But if you're on holiday, which suggests... City break suggests to me tourism. Let's go and see some shit. You know what I mean? Let's go to nice places. Let's do this. Let's do this. Go up a gondola. Yeah. Yeah, let's go on a gondola. Oh, go on a gondola. Sorry, I genuinely thought you just went... Gobble a gobble.
18:07Or a cable car. Yeah, like, let's go to Rome for the weekend. You don't sort of go to Rome and just chill out. you go to run because you're going to go and see like the fucking Trevi Fountain you're going to go see this you're going to go see that whereas a holiday I want to stay in a nice hotel I want to stay in a nice hotel and I want to sit yeah that's a holiday and that I want to do by the beach because I love the ocean and you can go in the ocean so I think I like them both I would say beach holiday for me as well I love the sea like I I went to the Maldives once and it was the best thing ever.
18:44Like, mate, swimming with, like, little baby sharks and stingrays and shit, it was the coolest. I love aquamarine life. It was just so cool. So for me, beach, but it has to be a specific type. I don't like places like Dubai. I've never liked it. I have nothing against it. Well, that's kind of a city and a holiday. Yeah, but it's not for me. It's, and this is purely me. This isn't like, I'm not shading anyone or anything like that. Everyone has different tastes. I would never want to sit on a beach with a skyscraper looking at me. Like that doesn't feel very like beach holiday with me. And it, and it lacks a bit of sort of like that beach culture, I think, which I would, which I really like when I go on a beach trip.
19:26I don't want to be in a, in a metropolis sat on the beach, you know? What? Metropolis. Fuck. Fuck. I feel like you've, you've, The last couple of weeks swallowed a thesaurus. I haven't quite got them out. Oh, the next question. If your girlfriends could change one thing about you, what do you think they would say? No, no, mine is more time. Yeah, we're incredibly busy at the moment. And yeah, I feel like she would probably be like, just a little bit more time at the moment. but she gets it so it's fine but if it was a sort of like a more jokey thing probably i'm a snorer at the moment yeah i'm a snorer all right fucking hell i'm a snorer at the moment i feel like snoring she's she's not totally happy with the snoring nice oh she would pete's missus wouldn't change a thing about it i think she would say how far away we live from each other because because I'm one side of London, she's the other side.
20:38So it's quite a long journey. Is there any others? I'm sure I've got others. I'm sure I could text her and she'd literally have a fucking list. Most recent search history. Or mine's very unrelatable. Oh, actually, no. Well, I've got shopping, a vintage Rolex I want to buy, a PDF I've just signed and sent to the bank, and James Blunt best roasts on Twitter. What? James Blunt, right, there's a reason why we got onto this. I didn't realise that he was on Traitors, but James Blunt is fucking jokes. He's come back to great. His replies to people on Twitter, because we were talking about it this morning, weren't we, are fucking the best.
21:28If you haven't seen him, he's fucking jokes. so yeah my search history is is um clothing and james blunt which seems odd is anyone watching trades at the moment do you know who on the i think pete would be like ross kemp or where he's like don't come near me yeah ross kemp is like doesn't trust anyone he's like super paranoid in there and it's like i mean this is a guy that spent time with the cartel so listen he knows a bad guy anyone touches him he's like what are you doing because in past series the traitors sometimes get a thing where you have to murder in plain sight. I just thought you had to lie.
22:04Is this a murder mystery? No, so you do have to lie, but if you're a traitor, you might receive a little letter thing that's like, tonight, Pete, you have to murder someone in this room by handing them this water bottle. And so you have to, like, super casually just be in conversation and be like, oh, can you hold that a sec for me? And then they get taken out and they're dead? No, then they don't know until midnight and everyone goes, I don't know if it's the time specifically. Oh, okay. Everyone goes to bed that night and then they just don't come back in the morning. And then it's like, how were they murdered in plain sight?
22:34You just sit around the fucking thing and say who's a liar and who's not a liar. Mainly it is, but there's a few things like that. So Ross Kemp is constantly convinced that he's getting murdered in plain sight. Like if someone came over and tapped him and went, God, it's a bit cold, isn't it? And he was like, I know what you've just done. It's so funny. He runs into the next room and goes, Leanne, she's just touched me on my back. So I'm gone. I'm gone. I'm gone. and I think that's what you would be like. Do you know what I love about that is I love people who have watched it and are overanalyzing it.
23:04Like that to me is fucking great. There's been about four times Ross Kemp thinks he's been murdered. Do you know what's mad is like for me I just wouldn't want someone to touch me anyway. Yeah. I'd be like what are you doing? I'm not murdering you. I know I just don't want you to touch me. I can imagine like someone put a hat on his head and he was like did you just put that? Then he like runs over to me and he's like she just put that hat on my head So if I don't come back tomorrow. But do you know what? Imagine living with someone like that. For fuck's sake, Ross. Ross, fucking shit. He's at Ross Salad again.
23:35Yeah. Fucking hell. Give it a couple of days. Ross is just going to be in the garden in a shed or something. Just as I said, no one can get to me here. I love that. But that's why the casting is just so damn good. That would be Pete. Or it would be the other side. It'd be the guy who literally didn't care. And would just sit there and be like, well, it was probably them. Yeah, but Pete would think he'd like, he's quite ahead of like a curve when something's happening. He's like, no, I see what they're doing and what she's doing. And I think he would get said. He'd get caught in his own mind. He'd get caught in his own way.
24:03I live my life here in the same fucking way. Exactly. Why have you done that? I know what you're doing. Yeah. Tempo and I tried to hand him a Starburst. He was like, it's obviously flavoured like shit. Yeah, yeah. It's just a Starburst. Like Starburst made a shit flavoured sweet. Yeah, yeah. True. My last thing was the Focke-Wulf FW90, if anyone cares. What? It's a German plane. World War II was my last internet search history it was it was only they were only fine art of the maid but yeah well on that note brilliant fighter from World War II learn more at Sam Thompson UK YouTube well that's it ta-da thank you so much for listening we love you this has been a Staying Relevant production hello Relevanters we wanted to let you know that you can hear exclusive bonus episodes of Staying Relevant every month on Amazon Music.
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Sam and Pete FINALLY discuss our podcast name… and what would they call it if they were starting over again today? PLUS, Sam and Pete debate what counts as showing off and where to draw the line.
Sam’s been busy in the SR office replying to listener emails, but there’s more to get into as he opens up about his surgery. The boys also tackle the ultimate holiday dilemma: city break or beach holiday?
PLUS, what’s the one thing their girlfriends would change about them, and what’s lurking in their most recent search history? Some things are best left uncovered…
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