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Staying Relevant

5 Feb 2026 · 38m · 21 chapters

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Sam’s first rant on the pod!

In short

A bonus episode where Sam rants about “admin nights” (Gen Z cancelling subscriptions together), then the hosts debate “Karen vs Darren” (complaining/entitlement), and finish with “Question Time” hot takes: Harry Styles’ “star quality,” “girl eras,” and whether they could free-solo climb like Alex Honnold.

Guest backgrounds

No guests appear; it’s just the hosts (Sam, Pete, and producer/“Pippa” referenced).

Key claims

Admin nights are pointless because people should do life tasks alone; “Karen/Darren” is defined as caring enough to be negative (complaints, rules enforcement). Sam claims liberation after his rant and argues he’s not a complainer, just angry at meddling.

Notable examples

cancelling Apple TV/Strava/Disney+ subscriptions; Sam’s double-yellow-line confrontation with pensioners; police warning over neighbor complaints; neighbor reporting a wall two inches too high; Harry Styles listener-party crowd reactions; Alex Honnold Free Solo (101-story skyscraper) discussion.

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Chapters

0:30

Engaging with Listener Emails

Hosts discuss listener emails and share their thoughts.

“Losing weight can feel like a roller coaster, full of ups, downs, and being thrown for loops, like when someone brings donuts into the office, or your kids' dino nuggets start giving you that look again.”
2:36

Engaging with Listener Emails

Hosts discuss listener emails and share their thoughts.

“so we go through emails and that from you guys.”
4:01

Admin Nights: A Gen Z Trend

The hosts debate the concept of Gen Z's admin nights.

“Hey, Sam and Pete, I need your point of view on this, please.”
5:50

Critique of Productivity Culture

Hosts critique the need for structured productivity among friends.

“I've been playing this new war game at the moment.”
7:37

Personality and Social Dynamics

Discussion on personality and social interactions in contemporary culture.

“Yeah, so do you need a whole night to do that with your friends?”
9:12

The Definition of a Karen

The hosts explore the concept of a 'Karen' and related societal behavior.

“But the problem is you've got nothing to talk to them about because you are one boring ****.”
14:00

The Karen and Darren Phenomenon

Exploring the concept of being overly concerned about others' behavior in public.

“Listen, I'll fucking say what I think if someone asks me, but I don't care enough to fucking really.”
16:43

Sam's Parking Incident

Sam recounts an encounter with an older couple about parking on double yellow lines.

“My takeaway from that is you're getting bullied by pensioners.”
18:09

The Elderly and Rules

Discussion about the societal tendency to report others for minor infractions.

“Because you're just like, imagine people are actually happy to rat on their neighbour like that.”
19:26

Covid and Neighborhood Surveillance

Reflecting on how neighbors reported each other during the pandemic.

“Listen, you do not want to get on the wrong side of Sam and his pen and paper, because I'll tell you something now.”
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20:40

The Case of the Wall Height

Sam shares a story about receiving a warning for his wall being too high.

“Everyone's outside banging their fucking pots and pans and I'm just watching all of them being like, that's one of you fuckers.”
21:30

The Nature of Complaints

Exploring the character types who complain or report others in society.

“You came up to me and you were like, oh, your top's shit.”
22:20

Transition to Harry Styles

Shifting the discussion to Harry Styles and his recent music career.

“During Lowe's Pro Savings Days, save more on the products you count on to get the job done right.”
23:25

Harry Styles' Listening Party

Analyzing the reactions to Harry Styles’ latest music during a listening party.

“Losing weight can feel like a roller coaster, full of ups, downs, and being thrown for loops, like when someone brings donuts into the office, or your kid's dino nuggets start giving you that look again.”
26:23

The Charisma of Harry Styles

A discussion on Harry Styles' star quality and public perception.

“and come out and go, my God, he's just found his sound.”
28:01

Harry Styles: The Charismatic Star

Explore what makes Harry Styles a captivating figure, from his star quality to his past on X-Factor.

“How long have you been a Harry Styles superfan?”
29:16

Defining Gen Z Eras: Boss Girls and Romance

A playful discussion on Gen Z identity eras, exploring concepts like 'boss girl' and 'it girl'.

“It girl's like main character energy, I think.”
31:38

Self-Identification: Which Era Are You?

The hosts reflect on their own identities and which Gen Z era they resonate with, leading to humorous insights.

“I mean, you're in your romance girl, aren't you?”
32:54

Climbing Adventures: Alex Honnold's Feats

A deep dive into Alex Honnold's climbing achievements and the fearlessness required for such dangerous feats.

“I'm sure the worst thing is, I've actually met him.”
35:43

Vocation and Self-Discovery: What Are We Meant to Do?

A reflective conversation about finding one's vocation and questioning if there’s something better suited for them.

“I used to want to be a professional rock climber.”
43:49

Sam's Rant Introduction

Prepare for an engaging rant segment by Sam on various topics.

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2:08You'll be able to watch this on Josh and Keira's YouTube channel on Sunday. Oh my God, he's panicked. God, I nearly forgot. And then Monday's episode is now on Josh and Keira's YouTube channel as of Wednesday last night, 5pm. So that means you can catch us on a... Monday. Wonderful. Didn't do that in the main this week. Oh. Yeah. You did not. No. No. It's fucking weird. Rate, reviewed, all of that crap. Hit, follow. You know the score by now. This is the bonus episode, so we go through emails and that from you guys. And if you want to be a part of this, then email the worst email address in the world, which is hello at srproductions.co.uk.

2:47This is what we do on a bonus. We bring it to you, baby. this is it I know you bring it to us actually quite a lot of the time to be fair we sort of go round and you send us emails so the first one actually should we just talk about for a minute because I've seen quite a few I know where this is going what? no actually no I don't no I'm not even going to bother saying it because I feel like I've got it wrong no well go on no no no that's okay don't be afraid no because I've got it wrong now and I'm just going to draw attention to it well what? absolutely no no no come on no because now I'm panicking it's not even an interesting thing I now have the table and what I had to say wasn't interesting.

3:23So all I'm going to say is for those of you, I suggest if you're listening to this, you watch this on the YouTube because Sam has taken his hoodie off. I knew that was what it was going to be. I knew it was going to be about me being orange. Fuck's sake. No, it wasn't. It was the guns are gunning. I've seen quite a few comments recently about the fact that you are looking fucking hench. Oh yeah, look at that. Just do it again. No one wants to buy my tea towel. Fuck. Doesn't matter how hench you get. Nobody wants to rub their crockery down with my pecs on a towel. Take it away with the emails. We've had an email from an anonymous.

4:04Hey, Sam and Pete, I need your point of view on this, please. I'm 18. That's a good demographic. And that's from a confused Gen Z. That's how they've signed off. I just want to say congratulations. 18 enjoy it while you can now legal blink and you'll be close to 40 yep exactly so next email I need your point of view of this I'm 18 years of age again well done and have just been invited to an admin night I know about this it's you're gonna fucking hate this it's a new trend on socials where friends get together and hang out to do things like cancel subscriptions open long avoided emails and book dentist appointments.

4:50I've seen this activity trending loads on social media, so it's safe to say Gen Z are less party, more productivity. I'd really love to hear your thoughts because I can already hear Pete's rant before I've even pressed send. Thanks, a confused Gen Z-er. I love the idea of this, by the way, before we sort of like get into Pete's thoughts. I think it's a fucking good idea and I would love to do it with you, Pete, if you fancy it. You don't need to do it with me. It would just be you. It would just be me helping you do things. Yeah, that would be great. Because it's not a case of Gen Z are less party, more productivity.

5:18It's a case of Gen Z are fucking boring and not productive, which is why they need a whole night to do it with their friends because they can't do anything alone. That's exactly what it is. If you're going to do admin, just fucking do it. You don't need a whole night for it. It's for people that can't manage their lives or organise themselves. Just do the admin as you go. But I can't. Well, again, no, it's not. You can. Mate, I don't think I can. Oh, okay. Why can't you? What's stopping you? My ADHD.

5:47what okay I just really so admin nights are purely for the ADHDs no I've not said but it's quite I like the idea of a group of people getting round getting together and getting stuck in so do I it's called a night out you're getting stuck into cancelling some subscriptions I've got so many and I know what do you subscribe to actually I don't have too many I thought I had more Apple TV Chat GPT okay A professional version. Oh, wonderful. How many times have you used that? Loads, all the time. I've been playing this new war game at the moment. Oh, mate, it's amazing. It's called Hearts of Iron 4.

6:25It's amazing. Have you played it before? I don't like the way I pointed you off. Is it just you play or do you play with Bodger and Badger? No, it's just me who plays this one, yeah. It's a strategy World War II game. It's fucking amazing. So you've got to build your tank division. Anyway, I catch... Do you play this on your phone? No, you play it on a computer. Yeah. I don't know what that was so yeah I chat to you about everything I take photos of things I literally fucking yeah mate and I send things Disney Plus obviously Iron Cloud Plus ITVX Raya expiring as in no as in I'm not I'm not on Raya now just want to show everyone that's expiring so I've unsubscribed to the actual dating app what Well, look, it says expiring because I unsubscribe.

7:13No, no, no, I hear you say it, but why have you... Why have I unsubscribed to it? Because you're going to spend the rest of your life a peep. Hopefully. Yeah, nice. All right. Cool. So... Runner. Strava. Oh, yeah. Wahoo Systems. All right. So what I'm getting here from these... Golf Gamebook. Okay, we're still going. Road Warrior. Strapping. Snappy C. And that's actually it. Okay. So how many of them do we need to unsubscribe from? Apple TV could probably go, to be fair. You don't use it? Strava, I can probably see you later. Not that many, actually, to be fair. Yeah, so do you need a whole night to do that with your friends?

7:47Well, I didn't even know how to log in. I had to see Pippa had to tell me how to do it. So, you know. Wonderful. Also, you're around friends. You're getting together. You're doing things. So what it is, is just hanging out with your mates. So why are we calling it? Because you're helping each other. Because why do we have to name something that is just being with your friends? Because it's doing things to help each other, like a community. It's not, though. It's because we have nothing to talk about with our friends. if you're Gen Z because you're fucking boring. Sound like my dad. But it's true though.

8:16Why do you need an itinerary for a night out? Do you know what I mean? Why do you need an itinerary to be... What we're going to do is cancel subscriptions. Why? Because we've got nothing else to say to each other. Like what happens to just fucking going out with your fucking pals? Spending time with your pals? Why have we got to have a reason for it? In this email, it's safe to say Gen Z are less partly more productivity. It's the opposite. it's because you're not productive that you have to arrange a specific time to be productive. How about you just stop being a bone idol? Bone idol? Fucking hell.

8:49Bloody hell. Okay. I mean, that, that's got to, that 60 plus. I haven't heard bone idol for years. But from last week when I said it. Bone idol. But it's true. Why do you need to, I just don't understand why you can't just hang out with your mates now. There's got to be a reason for it. It's because I have to cancel my subscription. No, just cancel it before you hang up with your mates and you've got more time to talk to them. But the problem is you've got nothing to talk to them about because you are one boring ****. Would you ever play like a... Would you ever do sort of like badminton once a week with your pals?

9:21Yeah, but that's something to do, isn't it? If you like playing badminton... I mean, I personally wouldn't. Can you imagine me whacking a shuttlecock? Good that you know the name. I don't think it's a secret. Yeah, but I don't know. Badminton's not the most out there sport. A bit of paddle? Yeah. What do we, the ball? Yeah, but as in that way. I know that one as well. Fucking smashing these sports out the fucking butt. So you're okay with doing that though? You're okay with like - Well, that's just, yeah, but that's just a hanging out with your fucking mate. Doing a productivity night where we do our admin.

9:53What the fuck is that? It's mental. It's just, it's, people have now no personality. So, do you know what I mean? Like, I don't, why? I cannot, I just cannot understand it. Go and fucking have a hobby. That's having a hobby. Admin is not a hobby. Admin is just doing life. Do life on your own. Give me an example of a Gen Z and how they speak. You know what we can do this weekend? Because I don't really know anything. I've got nothing to say to you other than the fact that I've had a matcha. What we can do is we can cancel our subscriptions together. It'll be loads of fun. I can't wait to cancel our Apple TV with you.

10:36And we'll go for this and yap. And we'll go for this and yap, but it won't be that, me and this and ya admin. Like, fucking hell. Well, look, I'm just glad we've got a Gen Z listener. So, you know, you go out there and you slay your day. Not just any old Gen Z, we've got a confused one. I'll tell you what she's confused about, why she's got no fucking personality. Right, let's hope that Lizzie can help. Go on, Pete, why don't you give this one a read? Hey, boys, I know you two are always saying producer Pippering is a Karen. But have you heard the new male version of a Karen is a Darren? A Darren!

11:10Who's more Darren and Wyatt plead your case? I've got to say, I actually heard it different. I heard that it's not Darren. Yeah. So. A Daryl. No. You're just staying with the Ds. It is a D. I heard it's a David. And David seems more Karen to me. Surely it's a Keith. That's just a K, mate. Karen and a Keith. Keith, like, I feel like you're being such a Keith. Right, name a David that doesn't moan. Not a Dave, a David. If you're asking to be called David. I actually do know a David that's really moany. I know an old David. I feel like David is the Karen, not Darren. He's my neighbour. Yeah, oh, hello, Dave.

11:52I know, he won't listen to this podcast. He's quite old. No, no, no, wait, not that that's a problem. Yeah, he's going to be so ageist on the pod. I mean who do you think is more of a David or a Darren out of me and you then well you're obviously more of a Karen you're a Darren you just said bone idol that is the most Darren thing to say I've ever heard in my fucking life well listen I like a rant I'm not a complainer though I mean you're the one don't even try it I'm many many many things Pete but a Darren I am not you are Okay, so who was so happy about the complaint letters? Yeah, that's because I want a little bit of needle, mate.

12:35Right, Darren. No, that's not being a Karen. Who's really happy and enjoys their fucking thing in life is car parking wars. Who also is so happy that we wrote complaint letters? Yeah, being a Karen is right. That is true. So I don't do that. I'm just a miserable prick. I wouldn't go out of my way to write a complaint letter because I'd just think, oh, fuck it. I can just imagine people like TripAdvisor being like, Buffet was not up to par. Yeah, I'm not. I mean, obviously we know that our resident Karen is peer par. She loves to complain. Can I ask though, based on what? Based on the fact that you genuinely write complaint letters.

13:13But I also write good reviews. I went for a roast on Sunday and I said, thanks so much. When Karen's happy with something, Karen won't shut up about it. Yeah, no, exactly. And also, no, can I, this terminology Phenomenology is exactly why you're a Karen. They're on my list. Yeah. They're on my list. What do you mean? If you have a list and you think it's that important that you go, they're on my list. And the face you just pulled there. Yeah. The face you just pulled there. Don't fucking point at me like I'm going to stick up to you. Yeah, I agree. I agree. Right. What? We're there. We're there.

13:47Okay. Someone's had the brave juice this morning. They're on my list. Now you're both on my list. what happens when they're on your fucking list nothing you'll find out and then also people will be on a list and then she'll go to anybody that will listen about the person on her list because she needs to complain about that person on her list I think the definition of Karen and Darren, David, whatever you want to call it Daryl or fucking Keith or whatever the fuck it is is caring enough to be negative that's why I would say I'm not I don't think you are either to me, but I don't think either of us are.

14:24But I do not care about anything. Yeah, you care. Enough. That's a very good point. To actually write a complaint there. Listen, I'll fucking say what I think if someone asks me, but I don't care enough to fucking really. I'll give you that. I'll give you that. Some of your terminology is a little bit. Oh, no, that's just me being an old. An old soul. An old. I'll tell you what is a real Darren thing. So I was parking my car. This just fucked. By the way, they're right. I'm wrong. I know that. I'm just going to put it out there. but what you don't do is care just don't care so I park I park up on a street down where I live and I'm on a double double yellow right and there's a couple an old couple it doesn't have to be old people by the way they just happen to be older you've really got an issue with the old no no because it doesn't they don't have to be old I'm just saying they just happen to be old there's a pension upset you this way and they're walking past right they're walking past the car and they go that's double yellow line sir and I went Jan I'm just nipping and pulling out They went, you can't do that.

15:20I went, you're not the traffic warden. And they go, mate. No, no, no, no. Oh, Darren. Oh, no, I got so fucking annoyed. Oh, Darren. Mate, and they literally go, you've got to move the car. I went, no, I don't. After you, make me move the fucking car. Oh, nothing like threatening the pensioner. No, mate. And then, no, do you know what's even worse? Do you know what's even worse? All right, Dezza, tell us more. It got to the point, got to the point where it doesn't matter to you whether like people can still get through this. like I'm just on double yellow. It doesn't mean anything to you at all that I'm parked on double yellow or not.

15:53It doesn't change your life. It doesn't change the life of anyone around you. And they went, but you're not, the last thing they said was, but you're not allowed, right? And then I went, you know what? Fuck it, I'll move the car. So I got in the car. They waited, peering round the corner, peering to see if I'd fucking moved the car. That is a Darren and a fucking Karen. and I don't care what anyone says. I was so angry. I just, how can you care that much about someone else's life that impedes you zero and you care that much? I was fuming and I moved. I hate the fact I moved. I would just like everyone to do a round of applause because I think we have officially just had Sam's first rant.

16:40God, it felt amazing. How do you feel after that before? I feel so liberated. You feel good? I feel so liberated. The freedom it allows you. Oh, my God. Fucking hell. I'll tell you who else is a cut. My takeaway from that is you're getting bullied by pensioners. But you just don't have to care. That's my idea of exactly what a Karen or a Kevin is. A Kevin. A Kevin. A Darren. A Karen or a Kevin was just... I would have handled that differently. What would you have done? I'd have sat in the car and just stared at them. Yeah, I just didn't have... I broke first. Yeah. but listen people do love to do that I've got one more do you know it's the kind of fucking sorry it's the kind of people you might even have to welcome to renting hour with Sam Thompson it's the kind of people who ratted on their neighbours when they went for three walks instead of two over Covid and mate I honestly that that and you used to get neighbours peering over fucking fences being like oh my god he's on a server fuck off like mate that is fuck I got a warning I got a warning I'm not joking So it was specifically, right, it's not just people.

17:47It's the neighbour that complained about Sam. Mate, I went on a third warning. You got a warning from who? From the police, mate. I got a warning from the police. Because you remember when they used to knock on your door? Because some wanker had fucking been like, oh, that's just, they were logged when I had walked and I got a knock on the door. Like that terrifies me about society. Because you're just like, imagine people are actually happy to rat on their neighbour like that. like you have nothing else going on that you want to rat on like it was that kills me and and last one another name the floodgates are open mate my wall right i've got an outside little porch bit in the front of my gaff right we live on a main road my wall was like two inches higher than what the council allows right someone reported my wall to the council to the point where they said i've got and knocked the whole thing down because it was too...

18:43They had gone on to the rules and regulations, right? They'd gone on to the fucking rules and regulations and be like, his wall is two inches higher than what it should fucking be. If I ever... And I am a kind soul, I think. Actually... Your face is telling us different right down the barrel of this thing. Verting on a pussy. I'm spineless, but I never find out who that was. Open your eyes. You'll get a stern letter from me. I'll tell you. Darren. You'll get... Darren, I will out-Kevin you. There you go. I will out-Kevin you, but those are my three. I just, ugh. Sounds like you're just a really annoying neighbour.

19:18Oh, my Pippa, fuck off. Just piss off. Because I'll tell you what, Pippa, if you say that again, you're going to get a stern letter from me. You are at one skit. Listen, you do not want to get on the wrong side of Sam and his pen and paper, because I'll tell you something now. He uses them bad boys like weapons. Now, Pip is the kind of person who would. But you're the common denominator in all three of those scenarios. You're the common denominator. Pip is the kind of person who writes a note. Feyenoid, it's Karen and Darren, calm it down. Mate, do you know who you are? You're the kind of person who writes a note and puts on someone's car being like, you parked badly.

19:54But why, just follow the rules. Why are you better than the rules? Listen, Darren might be a new thing, but we've just had round one of Karen versus Darren. Let us know. I think this could be a new thing. Listen, does Pete exist has gone to the wayside because now we have Karen versus Darren. It's a new narrative that we're now going to follow is who can complain the most. And it is between Pippa and Sam, a.k.a. Karen and Darren. Also, what I took from that during COVID, you know, when the police knocks at the door. No, I don't. Not once did the police knock at my door. They were probably fighting car theft in my area.

20:33but because it's such a safe area Sam lives in in West London, they had nothing else to do apart from knock on the doors to check how many walks you'd been on. Everyone's outside banging their fucking pots and pans and I'm just watching all of them being like, that's one of you fuckers. I don't like it. I'm banging my pot and pan, looking at all of them on Tuesday being like, what are you pricks? He's not banging his pot and pan, he's there with his fucking pen and paper. Everyone's out there banging their pots and pans and show fucking solidarity. But actually I'm sitting there going, you pricks.

21:02Yeah Really got me I think we've unlocked some inner rage That has been building since COVID I'm done now I loved that I know because you're a Karen I honestly I don't know I feel like I might have to take bets on who's going to win this Karen and Darren I feel like that's another ongoing theme That's going to be happening here Between Sam and Pippa I quite enjoyed that I'll be honest with you Pippa bullied me before he came in here by the way like fully bullied me about my orange. About your orange? You came up to me and you were like, oh, your top's shit. And I was like, that's pretty audacious coming from someone who looks like that.

21:40God, round two. You started it. I did. Yes, you did. Yeah, annoyingly for you, Sam, you're at a little bit of a disadvantage here because people will just edit all of her comebacks in and just have you going, my. So I think Karen may win this. God, fuck off. I look forward to round three. I don't. I feel great now. I feel like I've released something, some inattention. Wonderful. I mean, listen, again, we're all happy for you. Must be lovely just to be able to walk around being paid and just be able to say what you think. Oh, yeah, my life's a breeze, mate. It's real good. Just having a lovely time.

22:20So glad to be alive. Right, question time.

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24:13I feel like you should take this away, Darren. Question time. This is fucking enormous. I'm surprised we haven't talked about this more, actually. Don't sigh like that.

24:26Sure you've seen the Harry Styles comeback. Please can we hear Pete's thoughts on exactly why Harry Styles is such a star? Now, you like the old Styles-y boy. Styles-y boy. Yeah. Yeah, me and Styles-y boy. Do you know what I do? I think he is a... Anything I've seen... Listen, I don't really know much about him. but anything I've seen I always just think but you're fun at the pub yeah do you know what it is sometimes and this is one of them things you can't really tell I don't know him you know but sometimes you look at someone and think there's something charismatic I think is probably the word some people are some people aren't and I just feel like he's got something about him I suppose which is probably why he's a star music wise shite but Pete you know what you're going to fucking love he threw or his label I don't know if it was him through like a listening party for his for his latest track right and and he's changed up his sort of like the way he's it's like very disco I'd say it's very housey house it's very dance yeah it's very dancey yeah very much so and and like look you take it or leave it like it's alright it's Harry Styles like it's got a bit of him in there like it's you know he's a star but like it's not I don't think it's his best work and you the people coming out the people coming out of this fucking listening part.

25:47Have you seen it? They come out, they're literally sitting there and they're like, it just makes you think, why is he not, this is the kind of music he should be making his whole life. Like, you know when people come out, they're all really LA and it's like, ah! And then he's like, I just think that like, he's found his sound and you're like, you just suck. Like, oh God, I'm doing it again. Fucking hell. Jesus Christ. We have really unlocked something else. You don't know, listen to the party. Darren, welcome to the party. That's not to say Harry Styles, he's fucking marvellous. I want to go and see him live.

26:16I love his stuff, his old work. But you know when you get those fucking, his old work, you know when you get those like listener parties and those fucking LA wankers in there and come out and go, my God, he's just found his sound. Like I made me really emotional. No one gets emotional listening to music. Like to the point where like, no one gets emotional. Taylor Swift's fans will sit outside of the stadium, right? They'll sit outside of the stadium and be like, oh my God, I think I can, I think I can hear. and they'll burst into tears, right? And this is legit. They'll burst into tears. They're not even in the stadium.

26:49They can hear what they think might be the echo of a song they like and they'll burst into tears. Maybe that's legit. I don't know.

27:02I need to go home. I don't know what's happened here. I need to go home. I don't... Do you know what? It's really weird because he's taken my role. I don't know what to do. I need to go home. Anyone for a hug? I do love Harry Starks. That's all right. Mate, you're allowed an opinion. It's like Sam has just pulled the splinters from his arse and he's picked a side. This is... I'm here for the fucking Sam rants. I think we need to include these on the weekly thing. I mean, look, it's nice to see you feel passionate about something. I didn't think that we would unlock it with sort of police during COVID and Harry Styles but we seem to have unleashed the dragon so it's the listener party people oh sorry listener parties yeah yeah yeah I've got to show you it you know what I'm talking about Kiri you know exactly what I'm talking about I mean you've pleaded such a good case I think we've all got to see it but yeah listen I just think he's charismatic I think that's why he's a star there's some people you look at they just have it yeah and I don't know what it is what's the word that people um the juice the sauce that's not what no star quality oh right not rears juice we're going for gen z's it's oh it's that lizard so no june say quoi star quality yeah but you know i mean like some people just like you think i don't know what else you'd be doing like i imagine he was always one of them people that people are just kind of drawn to he's just got saying on x factor weren't they even when he was on x factor and like he was like The cheeky chappy.

28:38And he like... How long have you been a Harry Styles superfan? I love Harry Styles. Oh, God, fuck. We know. It's just the listener parties. But, I mean, going back to... I don't remember whatsoever him on X-Factor. Oh, I do, yeah. He used to be like the party boy. He used to go out. He used to always be dating people. The long hair. He had you hair. You hair. He had you hair. All right, good. Wow, fucking nice. I really enjoyed that. um next up on question time oh by the way the questions if you want to ask these kind of quick kind of questions and get sam's rants on things um i'm done i don't think it is because we're going to get insane else in a minute um and i think we've unlocked something inside you that you've been just waiting to get out um then we we put them up on the socials every uh tuesday evening for you to be able to write these in so uh stay follow at stay relevant podcast if you want to kind of do one of these next one what era are the boys entering boss girl it girl romance girl what era are you in big guy or big girl nice i i i i i pick one well oh sorry fuck i didn't realize it was a a must i i don't you're gonna have to explain them i mean are they self-explanatory but i imagine if this is a gen z Do you think they mean nothing like what they're supposed to?

30:02It girl's like main character energy, I think. You know, you're walking around, you look in the mirror, you feel like you're in your own movie. You know, you sort of have a little look. You're like, God, today's going to be one of those days. Don't think I'm that. Are you in your romance girl era? What was it? Depressed 37-year-old man who's single? No, I don't think so. I think you're in your boss girl era, aren't you? I don't even think that's the case either because... Sat in your boot clay. Eh? Sat in your boot clay. Matching hands. Sat in my boot clay? Yeah. Sat on your boot clay sofa. Taping something.

30:31Is that what, is that boss girl then? No, it's just an image though. You know the image I'm sort of portraying. Yeah, you love boot clay. My sofa at home is boot clay. Oh. Yeah, I haven't seen it for ages because it's covered in kind of throws because of the puppy in that and it's white, which is annoying. That's sort of off-white. Ivory. It's ivory boot clay. Lovely. Anyway. So I don't know. I don't think I'm any of those right now. So I probably need to... None of those girls. I don't think I'm any of those girls. I don't know what type of girl I am, but I don't think it's either of those three.

31:12So we probably need to... I probably need to come to some other era, I imagine. Maybe soft girl. Okay. Clean girl. Give me some other girls. Well, you haven't been drinking. It's clean girl era. Absolutely. There you go. So I'm in my clean girl era. And on that, just in case you're... Did I say it on the pod earlier? Oh, memory's gone. I'm in my forgetful girl era. Yes, maybe I'm a clean girl. Nice. Yeah. Go you. Yeah, thanks. I mean, you're in your romance girl, aren't you? Surely. Actually, I could be a bit of a romance girly. What do you mean could be? You announced you're in love and want to spend the rest of your life with your new fucking bird.

31:50Of course you're in your romance girl. I feel like you may be yours. I think you could be in all three of these eras. I'm going to be honest with you and I'm going to tell you why. You're in your romance girl area because you're in a new relationship and you're in love. Wonderful. That is romance. If ever I heard a girl that is in romance era, it's you. I feel like you could also be in the boss girl area because you are having meetings with the team. You've just come straight from here with the meetings. You've been turning up to the Monday meeting. So you're also in your boss girl era. And it girl era, you cannot stand anyone's attention, as we discussed the other day, because you are the main character.

32:21So you are also in your it girl era. You are just every woman. I'm every woman. Do you know what I'm also doing? Quite liking matcha. You are in your, what do we call that? Is that a soft girl? You're a big, soft, itty, romance-y girl. Just all the girls. You're all the girls. You are every woman. Yeah, I feel like you could be. I mean, if you were to describe your girl era, I can't believe I'm fucking getting involved in this. If you were to describe your girl era yourself, what would it be? I think I'm in my boss girl era Yeah Yeah I think I'm in my boss girl era I'm turning up to the office A little bit more I am drinking a few matches You know The journaling's still happening Which is nice I feel like I've got a list of things to do Each day There you go So we've got boss girl era And clean girl era Ah slay queens Yes bitch So we do it Oh mate this one's a great one Don't sigh like that I'm sure you've seen the climber Alex Honnold.

33:28I'm sure the worst thing is, I've actually met him. Alex Honnold, have you watched Free Solo? Oh, mate, it's unbelievable. He climbed just now 101-story skyscraper. Yeah, I've seen it all over the web and that. Yeah, the web. But he Free Solo'd before, which is far more impressive, El Capitan, which is - Who's he? it's one of the hardest mountains to climb with gear and he did it with nothing so and it's like so high and and he i don't know i don't know what the fucking stats are but mate it's like fucking a big mountain it's a fucking mountain yeah and mate he did the whole thing it's it's one of the most terrifying things you've ever watched you know what's crazy is when they were filming this for netflix they the director is watching him do this thing being like this guy could fucking die and we're all going to just watch him die to his thought was there.

34:20So what did they do? Just zoom in? Mate, they had drones fucking watching him play up the whole way. And what's interesting is that they actually, that climbing that skyscraper is actually one of the easiest things. But it's the one that's kind of gone all over the show. He could have done that with his eyes closed. Well, I mean, look, the question that we've got is, because it's question time. I'm sure you've seen climber Alex Honnold from Free Solo just climbed 101 storey skyscraper with zero safety equipment. He successfully got to the top. What do you two reckon you could climb with no safety equipment?

34:56I'm going to be honest with you, judging on, and I've been quite honest and open about the fact that I've been recently having falls. I struggle with the sofa without worrying about whether I'm going to come off of it. So in terms of what do I think I could climb with no safety equipment, I need safety equipment just for the stairs, like a stanner or something. I'd give the skyscraper a go. I thought you might. I used to climb trees when I was a kid. Yeah, I mean, it's a jump from a tree to a skyscraper. But as expected, I assumed that you'd think that you could do a skyscraper. Talk to us about your experience of climbing previously and some of the things you've climbed and why you think you can make the jump free of equipment to doing a skyscraper.

35:42Well, mate, if I'm honest with you, You know, I have told you this before. I used to want to be a professional rock climber. That was my vocation that I wanted. It was the vocation that you wanted. Was that before or after trumpet? That was before the trumpet, actually. Before the trumpet, yeah. And, yeah, I don't know, man. I just feel like I could give it a go. I think I do get a bit scared, though. I'm actually quite scared of heights. Yeah. But I do love climbing. So probably without any harness. What was the last thing you climbed? That was a fucking good question. Do you know what? I would attempt to climb this building.

36:18This building? We should try and climb the building. We should cut from this pod to me halfway through the building and go, I can't move! Yeah, I mean, genuinely, it's not for me, the climbing thing. But I did expect you to say, I imagine you could do what Alex Honnold had done. Nah, mate. Dude, his grip is like out of this world. he's like he is so fine-tuned to that it's fascinating i went to the screening of free solo i met him when you see it's like he's so vascular and the muscles around his fucking forearms and shit i find it fascinating the muscles running for no just how a human being can condition themselves to be able to execute something that 99.99999 % of like population can't do yeah like how mad is that you can train human beings can train themselves to do something extraordinary if you dedicate your entire life to it and your body evolves and adapts to it is meeting the climber the first time you've realized that well just it was just watching the movie was interesting like i mean yeah like it is incredible i what i want to know is

37:29why that's that what what is the why that i know what you mean like what why is that the vocation do you know what i mean yeah it could be could be so many different things i always think this like And it is incredible. And obviously he's like fucking, you know, I don't know if he's the best in the world, but he's fucking, yeah, whatever it may be. But I always think this is like, we all have a job, like, you know, Kira, you're a filmmaker and whatever else. Josh, you're here. No, but like we do podcasts and whatever else. But is this our vocation or have we just not tried enough things to realise?

38:03Well, no, Dogs is your vocation. Dogs is your vocation. that's your thing. I don't know if it's... Yeah, but maybe... But maybe because I've not, you know, looked after elephants. Maybe they are. Do you know what I mean? Like, you know when you think, is this really what I'm supposed to be doing? Because we haven't ever tried everything in life, is this going a bit weird? But do you know what I mean? But... I love that we had to pan... Well, it's just the look of blank... No, I'm thinking about it. But, like, you are a fabulous producer and you run this fucking company. But is there something you're better at that you've just never tried.

38:38No, I've seen her do some things, mate. She's paddle, paddle, no, running, no. But this is what I mean. So this is the best thing she can do right now, all right? The best thing she can do right now is this. You're at the peak of your performance right now. I'll take that. Yeah, so like, is there something? No, I haven't. Do some people find that? Like, is he better at something else, but he's also great at that? I've tried quite a lot. No, I'm pretty talentless. Well, we knew where you were going. No, the answer is no. I've tried everything. I've tried trumpet, climbing, football. I thought I was going to be a footballer at one point.

39:11I genuinely thought I was going to be a footballer. I don't know what gave you that impression. We watch soccer, right? I know. Exactly. Just like what Pete said there, I think I'm better at things than I actually am. So I shoot for the stars and I don't even hit the moon. I shoot for the stars and maybe get to the top of the stairs. And I've found that I'm really shit at most things. So I think I've fallen into exactly where I belong. But with your confidence, maybe we should look at what Sam's other vocations could be. Horse riding. You know how much I love that. Yeah, but I've also seen you do it and that is not your vocation.

39:44Guys, just in case you were considering it, don't climb a building with no safety equipment. I know it's tempting after this conversation. All right. And maybe you've got the confidence of Sam where you think you can do it. You can't. I know that speaker should be the motivation speaker for everyone. You can't do it. Stay two feet firmly on the ground. And just in case, just in case you start fucking, we planted a seed in your head. Just walk the stairs slowly. All right. Just do everything calmly, slowly. And as you did before, don't let us influence you into thinking that you may be the next Alex Honnold because you're not.

40:22Could be. If you tried. Was that all right as a safety? No, don't worry. I understand that you'll lose sleep over whether or not the Relevanters are fucking climbing their houses rather than using the front door. Oh, what great. See, I knew it was going to be a good bonus. Fucking hell, your Tube journey is going to be absolutely fucking buzzing after this. Yeah, whether you're listening to the Tube in London or if you're in Greater Manchester or LA or wherever you may be listening to this podcast, which you can get at any point and listen to at any point throughout any part of your life. Oh, also, listen to He Said, She Said.

40:58might as well yeah absolutely might as well eh you never know we'll have a go on that note we love ya ta-da I'm off to climb but don't you do it this has been a Staying Relevant production

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On this week’s bonus episode, it’s a big, rant-y one. Not only do we get a classic Pete rant, but Sam officially pops his rant cherry with his very first pod rant. And it’s not just one, not two, but three separate rants from Sam, with Harry Styles even catching his wrath along the way.


What sparks all this outrage? The age-old question: who is the male version of a Karen? Is it Pete or is it Sam? As we discover that a male Karen is actually called a Darren, the real debate begins. So who’s more Darren… Sam or Pete?


We also get into Gen Z admin nights, which Pete is very much not happy about, leading to a surprisingly accurate and slightly terrifying impression of what he thinks Gen Z sounds like. The final and perhaps most important question of the episode is this: what era are the boys really in? Clean air, boss girl or soft girl?

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