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9 Sep 2026 · 20m · 12 chapters

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Sam’s Ultimate Pete Wicks Test

In short

Sam Thompson and William Trevorian (bonus episode) recap William’s Celebrity Mastermind win (2025) and then play an in-studio quiz: “Sam’s Ultimate Pete Wicks Test,” testing knowledge about Pete Wicks and Danny Dyer.

Guest backgrounds

William Trevorian is a Celebrity Mastermind winner (2025), discusses preparing with Danny Dyer’s autobiography and notes; he also shares meeting Danny Dyer during Soccer Aid training and receiving a message from Dyer after the win.

Key claims

Dyer’s autobiography is written like he speaks; Dyer is “genuine” with “no flicker of fakery”; William won by “geeking out” and refining notes; Pete Wicks’ go-to is pistachio latte and he fears gorillas.

Notable examples

Danny Dyer’s EastEnders character (Mick Carter/Nick Carter confusion), Football Factory host (Nick Love), and quiz answers about Pete (middle name James, Tottenham, Red Bull, “does that make sense?”).

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Chapters

1:11

Reflections on the Main Episode

Hosts discuss the success and impact of the main episode.

“We rolled this over from the main episode.”
2:20

Celebrity Mastermind and Seriousness

Discussion about Will's experience on Celebrity Mastermind.

“okay good thank god finally you won Celebrity Mastermind Yes, I did.”
3:30

Danny Dyer's Influence

Will shares insights about his specialist subject related to Danny Dyer.

“But not because I was really good at it.”
4:48

Preparation for Mastermind

Will explains how he prepared for his Mastermind questions.

“And then what I did, I mean, basically, this is why it's not impressive.”
5:54

Danny Dyer's Reaction

Will recounts Danny Dyer's congratulatory message after his win.

“I mean, I can't remember all of them now, but like some of them were like - No, some of them were, it was things about like, you know, like what was it like?”
7:10

Danny Dyer's Authenticity

Discussion on Danny Dyer's genuine personality and interactions.

“You went on his show as well, didn't you?”
8:51

Night Out with Danny Dyer

Desire for a night out with Danny Dyer and a humorous take on it.

“I just desperately want to go on a massive night out with him.”
9:45

Quiz Announcement

The hosts introduce a quiz segment based on Pete Wicks and Danny Dyer.

“So we got easy mode, medium mode and hard mode.”
10:32

Quiz Round: Pete Wicks

Hosts engage in a fun quiz about Pete Wicks.

“you're going to go first on Pete Wicks alright fine easy round question one what is Pete's middle name?”
12:38

Quiz Round: Danny Dyer

Further quiz questions related to Danny Dyer's career.

“I can't remember the name of the character.”
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14:00

Pete's Favorite Drink and Biggest Fear

Discover what drink Pete orders and his surprising fear.

“Before he got that in his chops, it was a, this was before we met any of you guys, maybe Pippa knew a caramel cortado.”
15:35

The Ultimate Pete Wicks Quiz

Engage in a fun quiz about Pete Wicks with various questions.

“He always says that you never know what they're thinking and that they could take over the world.”
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1:10Welcome to Staying Relevant, the bonus episode hosted by me, Sam Thompson, and William Trevorian. Trevorian. Best, everybody. Guys, thanks very much. What a treat to be here, Sam. What a treat to have you here, sir. Now, you've obviously rolled this. We rolled this over from the main episode. you can catch the main episode now on Spotify wherever you get your podcasts and can you watch us? Yes Can you watch us? Is this out visually? If they're an Apple podcast they can watch it right as they're listening and if not it'll be on YouTube on Sunday We'll be on YouTube on Sunday There you go Yeah, you can watch it on Apple can't you?

1:48We were part of the beta program What? Yeah I didn't know any of that Look, you're a beta Not the first time I've been told that before sorry oh Will's so lovely he just answered his red one sorry mate look we had to have you here for the bonus as well because we I was saying this about the main episode not just obviously unbiased because it's our podcast but I think that's one of the best episodes that we've had you say that every week no I genuinely don't if we if you haven't listened to the main episode please go listen to it fucking we were all laughing and crying but this is the bonus and this is where it gets serious okay good thank god finally you won Celebrity Mastermind Yes, I did.

2:27In 2025. Yeah. Now, I actually, I've got it written down here, but I actually watched it, so I know quite about how this went down anyway. First of all, when you're on it, I've never seen you so serious in my life. Yeah, well, because the, I've forgotten his name. Who's the guy that hosts it? He's brilliant. Whoever that is, whoever that guy is. Clive? Clive. Myrie. Yeah, Clive Myrie. He's so good. He's so serious. He's very serious. You don't get a lot back. I tried to have some banter with him beforehand. Did you get a bit back on? No, thank you. he is all about business he's got his game face on so um did you see when i accepted the trophy though it was the most awkward thing in the world i feel like he does that with everyone though yeah and then i didn't know then they were like they're off camera saying like hold it up and like and they the camera stays on you for ages like the whole credits you're there like with this holding the thing and you're like and then you get a dry mouth from smiling so you don't want to stop smiling so you keep smiling while smiling it's it's yeah it's fucking terrible and you're like I'm now, people are starting to hate me.

3:26I went from probably people like, yeah, I'm really happy Will won to fuck me. Yeah, Jesus Christ. Exactly. Put it down. I haven't won any, any show like that. So I wouldn't know. Other actually than Tipping Point. Did you win Tipping Point? One Tipping Point. But not because I was really good at it. It's because someone next to me kept on getting the answers correct. And he thought he was playing a good game by making me do, you know how, like, Oh yes. give the tips to other people. And so he kept on giving it to me and I was like, all right. I just donked it. Who was that? I can't remember his name, but he was very clever.

3:54Was it a celeb one? It was a celeb one, yeah. I would have loved if you went on it before this career. It was actually a civilian one, Will. One tipping point against Charlene. It was a wonderful time, actually. 1 ,500 quid. Thank you very much. I want a Ben Shepard doll, actually, which I still have at home. It's not about me, it's about you. Your specialist subject, which I just, it came out of nowhere. I just had no idea. And I know you've probably been asked this so many times, but like Danny Dyer Senior would be weird if it was junior. Yeah. Imagine if it was junior. Yeah. Danny Dyer Junior is my specialist subject.

4:34Yeah. But where did that come from? Well, I'd say Danny Dyer is well on his way to national treasure status. Oh, I think he's already there. He's probably already there. Yeah, brilliant. Danny Dyer National Trege, one. um two um i knew i knew that you basically they want you to have you get a some source material yeah right so so like if you choose a person it will be their autobiography right and i knew that danny dyer had an autobiography i see what you're doing i knew that the text was quite large yeah the page count quite low yeah every third word was fuck it's so true no that sounds really actually that sounds like i'm dissing danny dyer no you obviously have to be a big fan anyway yeah that's the thing yeah it was it was i just knew i just thought i reckon if it's a subject that you love okay and you're genuinely interested in um then you're going to learn it more easily and it helps that you know he's his autobiography is written exactly as he speaks yeah i hear you you know did you do much vision yes i read his autobiography obviously and I made copious notes.

5:43And then what I did, I mean, basically, this is why it's not impressive. I won. I just geeked out. I made loads of notes and I refined and refined and refined the notes. So I got 10 out of 10. Because he was asking you some rogue fucking questions. I mean, he's never going to get that. I mean, I can't remember all of them now, but like some of them were like - No, some of them were, it was things about like, you know, like what was it like? Because he was in a, he was in a, one of his first acting roles was, oh no, no. The only, so he got nominated for, he was in a short film that was nominated for an Oscar.

6:11like years and years and years and years ago in the short film category called The Wasp. Yeah. God, I nearly sounded like him when I said that. The Wasp. The Wasp. That was an answer. Yeah, exactly. That was, you know, that was quite a random one. And then, you know, it was all the Danny Dyer big hits, you know, just his filmography and, you know, where he was born. You got every single question correct. And there was some, did he get in touch after that? Oh my God. Can I read? Yes. I'm going to read the message that he sent me. I'm sure he won't mind. I messaged him saying, so I sent him the post, right, where I put the video and the pictures up.

6:49And I said, don't know if you've seen this, mate, but I hope you don't think it's too fucking weird. Right? And he wrote back, very flattered, Will, my old son. So glad you won the ****. God bless you, mate. That is so good. I love that. It's in classic Danny Dyer style. Very flattered, Will, my old son. So glad you won the ****. God bless, mate. Do you know what? So he's done soccer quite a few times. And every time he signs up. You went on his show as well, didn't you? Didn't you go on his, didn't you do something else with him? No. You've not been to his caravan park? No, I haven't. I actually barely knew him other than the two times we've done soccer together.

7:26And so he did it at the most recent time. And I feel like he was like, I don't know if I'll do it again. So he was like really happy to be back. Cause obviously he's getting older. He's like, I don't know if I can run about like that. And I went outside and I had a cigarette with Danny Dyer on the first day. I would take up smoking for Danny. It was, it was, I actually, I made him stand there for about half an hour. We spoke about everything and he, Danny Dyer is the most genuine person Oh mate. you have ever met in your entire life. There is not a flicker of fakery in that man. Authentic. The most authentic person you've ever met.

8:00And not a bad bone in his body either. Not a bad bone in his body. He's so lovely to absolutely everyone. Darling, come over here. He's got the girl who's bought me tea. Come here, darling. Thank you. Oh yeah, right, Moor Shower but he you may think to yourself oh is this guy like you know is this sort of like the act that Dave does I know obviously something's got to be real it is him to a fucking T 100 % and if we could ever get him on this podcast surely you can I don't think he really does them to be fair but like he would be just my dream well I think they're doing another series of him and Danny of the Caravan Park he'll need to promote it because he came on he came on our show to promote a movie He needs me to tell him that TV's dying.

8:41So, you know, like, we are the show. TV's Danny dying. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Will best, everybody. But he, yeah, what a fucking, what a guy. Mate, he. I just desperately want to go on a massive night out with him. Oh, so do I. I want to drink. Well, I have. What, you've drunk like 10 pints with him? Well, we drink a little bit in the, I wouldn't say massive night out, but we drank a little beer at the Soccer Aid training because it's at Champlain. So there's a little bar. It's not open massively late, but you can sink a couple of jars. And so I probably had about four or five beers in it. And it, mate, put it this way.

9:22Everything you would want from four or five beers of Danny Dieter is exactly what you get. Oh my God. And it fills your cup. It is absolutely brilliant. I just want to do it so bad. Mate, do you know what? It's tragic. if there's anyone who deserves to go and have a beer with danny diet is the man who literally won mastermind on his subjects not on that note though we we you know as i said this is getting serious mate and we actually we're gonna do our very own quiz right here okay great right now in the studio we're gonna go head to head all right uh you can keep your specialist subject to danny diet and mine is gonna be pete wicks okay i'm just i i will have forgotten it all i know actually far less about Pete than you might think.

10:03My memory is shocking. Okay. Oh my God. Okay. This is... So we got easy mode, medium mode and hard mode. Okay. Okay. If you could be the biggest bitch you could possibly be. Sure. So it's not going to be hard. Yes, I was going to say. That's what you normally tell me. So here we go. I know. Pippa, take it away. You're going fast. Okay. And can you give us the categories of the easy, medium, and hard? Yep. Easy mode you went with. I was just going to say round one. Yeah. three questions around you're going to go first on Pete Wicks alright fine easy round question one what is Pete's middle name?

10:38James correct what is Pete's favourite football team? Tottenham correct what was Pete's job before reality TV? fucking hell doesn't he like to tell us he was the something at a medical recruitment company wow was he? I was the director of a medical recruitment company what am I doing? was it his company? no don't give it to him mate we're not sure Can I just squeeze that? That's quite impressive. No, no, no, no, Will. Let me rein this back in. That's the reaction Pete normally wants. Let me rein this back in. Maybe the company got into trouble. Maybe he had to bail it out. He could have been. That's why I went into TOWIE.

11:12That's why I went into TOWIE. There's only one thing for it. Yeah, TOWIE. Otherwise they're going to break my legs. Will, do you know what? I'm always so terrified to ask about why it didn't work out. So I've just sort of like, I've just been like, yeah, well. Medical recruitment. In my head, in my head, I'm like, well, this man's obviously a secret millionaire. Sold his company. Sold his company. His medical recruitment. How old is Pete? He's younger than me. He's 37, nearly 38. That is so young. Yeah, he's still got a lot of years left. He's so young. Smokes a lot, though. He seems older. Yeah, he gets that a lot, too.

11:44But not in a bad way. He seems like a grown-up, personally. Where would you put him? I just can't believe that he's younger than me. Like, if we were at school together, he would have been, like, in the bottom year when I was in the top year. That's wild work. Oh my God, you would have been in sixth form and he'd be like... Yeah, like... Like you're seven. Yeah. I would have given him... Is that right? ...given him an atomic wedgie. Yeah. No way, will he? In fact, next time I see him, I'm going to give him an atomic wedgie. Yeah, you just remind yourself. Hit that up. Yeah. Okay, fine. Actually, Josh, I might need you to keep school.

12:14Okay. Because I haven't. So... Two out of three. Two out of three. Two out of three, right. Okay, should we go to Will now? I'm not going to remember anything, genuinely. I think these are easy. I feel like I'm old, I've got... I don't want to hear mental decline. Okay, go on. Okay, round one. Question, Mum. What character did Danny Dye play in EastEnders? Oh, fucking hell. No, I genuinely can't remember. What? I genuinely can't remember. What? I can't remember the name of the character. I can't remember it. I've got here Mick Carter. Nick Carter. Mick Carter. I'm really unsure. Nick. This is bad.

12:51Nick. That was really bad. That DM is getting deleted immediately from Danny Dyer. That beer is going less and less likely as the quiz goes on. You're right, Nick. What is Danny Dyer's daughter's name? Okay, Danny Dyer. Thank God for that. If I got that wrong, he'd be giving me an atomic wedgie. I'd love that. I'd fucking love that. Oh, yeah. What is Danny Dyer's middle name? That's a tough one. I genuinely can't remember. Danny. Danny Derek Dyer. Robert? No. One more go. It's not too left field. Is it like Robert? Yeah. Rhyme it with something. I don't know why I keep asking. Go on, it's good.

13:34What would you rhyme this with?

13:40Is it? Okay, if you shorten it, you can rhyme it with Ted. Edward? Yes, correct. I wouldn't have got that. Well done. That's two points. Two points to Bill. I don't deserve any of those points. No, you got it, mate. If you get the rhyme, you get the rhyme. Okay, Sam, round two. Medium round. Medium round. On Netflix. Oh, this one gets a bit dicey for me. What is Pete's go-to drink order? Like, from a coffee shop. Oh, it's a fucking... Can I sound like Danny's eye then? It's a pistachio latte. Correct. Yes. Is it? Yeah, he's... That's so sweet. Yeah, he used to... Before he got that in his chops, it was a, this was before we met any of you guys, maybe Pippa knew a caramel cortado.

14:28He used to love caramel cortado. And I bet he felt cool ordering that. Yeah, he very much liked it. Cortado for me. Whenever anyone used to come in, we used to work on a job together and someone would come in, the runner would come in and be like, would you like a drink, Pete? He'd be like, caramel cortado, please love. Wow. Oh my God. Now it's pistachio latte, extra pistachio. Extra pistachio, yeah. Carry on then. What is Pete's biggest fear?

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15:35Pete's Biggest Fear. Oh, is it gorillas? It is. Pete's Biggest Fear is gorillas. Really? Yeah. And he's such a silverback. I know, exactly. It's weird. He always says that you never know what they're thinking and that they could take over the world. Sorry, when does one need to know what a gorilla is thinking? When's he been a citizen? I don't trust that. It doesn't. That's so bizarre. When are you able to read the mind of any other animal? Exactly. Okay, last one in medium round. Take over the world. Okay, okay, last one on this round. What is one thing Pete will always have in his dressing room or on set?

16:13Red Bull. Yes. Whoa. Wow. You're doing really well. I know. Was that three out of three? Yeah. I did write this forgetting you did your quiz like a year ago. Oh, don't you just stop? Thank you. I actually did it more than a year ago. No, it came out last Christmas. We filmed it last March. Oh, as if. Come on. I'm worried from the easy round. Yeah, go on. Okay, medium. Which TV show did Danny Dyer present about football? Oh, the real football factory. Yes. Getty! Go on, son. What year did Danny Dyer join EastEnders? it was quite recent wasn't it more recent than i thought but i'm not sure about quite recent was it like 2017 18 a bit earlier oh 2016 15 i get a point for this 2014 i was gonna say 2013 yeah

17:07correct well done what was danny dyer's character called in the business well i think you got asked this on mastermind yeah i think this is one of the questions if i remember it correctly

17:25tommy big bonnets uh no was it um was it

17:35nicky nick carter no frankie are you sure what was that one two we'll give you 2013 okay sam you're on your final hard round about pete easy really what is pete's favorite holiday destination uh wassaintopet yeah yeah obviously the fucker spends more time there than this bloody podcast yeah is that where he is now yeah no no he was meant to be there no he's meant to in Turkey this time around. But yeah, he's done about four visits to Santrop with the new missus. What's he having done? No, I think that was actually just a... Just a follow-up appointment. It's all healing well.

18:22What phrase does Pete say all the time? That's not fair. No, okay. This is one that the team, if you asked anyone on the team, his top phrase, I'm confident we would all say... Yeah! does that make sense Pete tries to explain things right and like after everything does that make sense to you you literally just said like we're going to start in an hour does that make sense to you correct okay last question what is Pete most likely to complain about okay give me a slight context it's pretty broad pretty broad what's he most likely to complain about how busy he is broader okay broader than that what's Pete most likely going to complain about oh this is going to annoy me because I'm not going to get Pete's going to most likely complain about

19:17I don't know most things most things is that that's such a trick question that's the shittest answer I've ever seen in my life you didn't get it right Will you could storm into the lead here I don't think I can I think mathematically it's beyond my reach Josh is on scores don't worry okay fine yeah Okay. Final round. Who directed the Football Factory? Nick Love. Oh! Yes. That was quick as well. Danny Dyer's exact birth of date. Birth? Sorry. Oh, God. It was 1977. Yeah. Custom House is where he was born. Extra points. It was in July. It was. The.

20:00Was it any of the numbers I said before and I was trying to guess when he started on? EastEnders thank you that rules out about half the numbers in a month it was the 7th no no because July is the 7th month isn't it yeah yeah so sorry you don't get a point for that that doesn't count as a guess

20:21Will you've got to go 10th no double it and a bit higher fuck it out 21st 22nd 23rd Fourth, fifth, sixth, fourth. Twenty more. Twenty more. Yeah. Great. That's a point. Correct. Okay, two out of two. Next one. Final and last question. What was Danny Dyer's first major television role? Prime suspect with Helen Mirren. All right. Fucking do need to add the Helen Mirren. Correct. Yeah, you did. Hey, we'll win. Hey, yes. Yes. Oh, who's this texting me? Oh, it's Danny. So glad I won. Thank you, Danny. If you wouldn't mind just holding that coffee cup now, for 10 minutes if we do an outro that'd be great while smiling we are actually going to do the outro now Will has to go he has a very busy day so actually I do want to say this quickly it's a real pleasure that you came in for anyone who's listening to this not watching this Will is now staring down the barrel of the camera doing the smile Will has been nothing but an absolute treasure to have on this podcast oh thanks mate thank you so much for taking time at your very fucking busy schedule it's an absolute joy and a pleasure thanks for having me and I'd love to hey listen I'd love to check back in if I manage to make it like Will through some of Strictly may I ask you a question if you when you end up doing really really well and you find a bit of time could we be your podcast of choice I would love to be if I make it to halfway yeah could I come could I come back on Will come to Blackpool Will come to Blackpool for you we did it last time we did it for people that would be so fun Will that means the world to us thanks so much mate and by the way I do mean this in all seriousness like you are you're a friend of the pod mate we are going to be absolutely rooting for you thank you man And we'll be telling our listeners to vote for Will every single week.

22:06Vote for Will. Thank you. Will Best and God. Thank you so much, guys. What an absolute joy. What a lovely room full of lovely people. What a pleasure. Thank you. This has been a Staying Relevant production.

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Will Best joins us for a special bonus episode as he and Sam go head-to-head in a Staying Relevant version of Mastermind…


Will previously won Celebrity Mastermind with Danny Dyer as his specialist subject, so we thought it was only right to put his knowledge to the test once again. And with Pete safely out of the studio, Producer Pippa has chosen the perfect specialist subject for Sam… Pete himself. We find out just how well Sam actually knows his best mate.


But can Sam prove he’s the ultimate Pete Wicks expert, or will Will hold onto his Mastermind crown?

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