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Staying Relevant

16 Sep 2026 · 40m · 18 chapters

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The Ultimate Pete Wicks Starter Pack

In short

The episode is a bonus installment of Staying Relevant hosted by Pete Wicks and Joshua Sotheby Finley-Combes, plus Pippa and Josh (their friends/regulars). It’s mostly a “Pete Wicks starter pack” segment: early-2000s band T-shirts (Pete mentions a Metallica shirt with “metal up your ass” on the back), ripped jeans, Vans, glasses, and a “keys on the belt” style (explained as biker/motorbike origin; Pete clarifies the shown keys are Liv’s). Food is a “limp cheese sandwich,” cheese & onion crisps, chocolate limes, and/or a banana éclair; drinks include Red Bull, coffee, and a pistachio-style latte.

Key claims

Noom uses GLP-1s to quiet “food noise” and pairs meds with habits to maintain results; ZocDoc helps book in-network doctors quickly.

Notable examples

the “Find My Friends” debate (location tracking seen as controlling/invasive), and “red/green flags” discussion (e.g., Instagram-active/no-text-back judged green/red depending on context; jealousy framed as potentially healthy).

Guests

no named celebrity guests; the “guests” are Pippa and Josh, plus Sam absent.

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Chapters

0:12

Podcast Format and Schedule

Discussion about the podcast's schedule and upcoming episodes.

“They combine GLP-1s to quiet the food noise with healthy habits that help you keep it quiet, even if you get off the meds.”
2:45

Podcast Format and Schedule

Discussion about the podcast's schedule and upcoming episodes.

“a main episode which came out Monday which you can now watch as of 5pm last night which was Wednesday which means you can catch us on a Monday Wednesday Thursday Sunday did you carry that on whilst I was off?”
4:20

Engaging with the Audience

Hosts discuss audience interaction and the importance of emails.

“Sam's not here, which means that I've got Pippa and Josh.”
4:59

The Pete Wicks Starter Pack

Introduction to a fun segment about creating a 'starter pack' for Pete Wicks.

“You can, like, have a say as well, if you want.”
6:44

Fashion and Food Preferences

Discussion on fashion choices and food preferences related to Pete Wicks.

“Listen, you know, fashion comes and goes.”
9:42

Activities and Phrases

A light-hearted talk about activities and catchphrases associated with the hosts.

“You're trying to slag me off No, no, no We're trying to get it right That would just be an accident No, no, I'm good, I'm good What else we got?”
14:00

Parenting Activities: Pippa and Josh

Discussion of playful and humorous parenting activities.

“Rescuing and stealing random people's cats.”
15:14

Red and Green Flags in Relationships

Exploration of what constitutes red and green flags in dating.

“She hasn't said, but we'll add Pippa and Josh onto this.”
17:08

Jealousy: Healthy or Unhealthy?

Discussion on the complexities of jealousy in relationships.

“It just doesn't really bother me, but it does bother a lot of people.”
18:59

The Role of Ex-Partners

Discussion on the implications of being friends with ex-partners.

“She'd be too busy taking selfies though, wouldn't she?”
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21:38

Find My Friends: Privacy vs. Safety

Debate on the use of location tracking in relationships.

“Yeah, I liked horse riding and ice skating.”
27:27

Generational Perspectives on Privacy

Exploration of differing views on privacy and tracking technology across generations.

“See, I just don't like the idea of that.”
28:00

Debate on Sharing Locations in Relationships

Explore the pros and cons of sharing locations with a partner in modern relationships.

“I've never in my life have messaged Jack, like, why are you there?”
30:56

Introduction to Question Time Segment

Introduction to a fun segment where the hosts answer listener questions.

“So if you do want to be part of question time as well, then just, it goes up on our socials every week.”
31:27

Playing a Generational Game

Hosts play a game comparing famous names from Gen Z and Millennials.

“Okay, so G's going to read out a first name.”
35:36

Discussion on Pete's Funeral Video

Hosts react to a humorous video made by Sam about a funeral.

“They combine GLP-1s to quiet the food noise with healthy habits that help you keep it quiet, even if you get off the meds.”
38:34

Discussion on Facial Hair Trends

A light-hearted conversation about facial hair styles and personal preferences.

“I don't think it suits me, but I'm embracing it.”
42:00

Pete's Tattoo Journey

The hosts discuss Pete's recent tattoo work and his inspirations behind it.

“and he feels like he let himself go again.”
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0:00Losing weight can feel like a roller coaster, full of ups, downs, and being thrown for loops, like when someone brings donuts into the office, or your kids' dino nuggets start giving you that look again. That's why there's Noom. They combine GLP-1s to quiet the food noise with healthy habits that help you keep it quiet, even if you get off the meds. Their program is designed to make weight loss a smooth ride, helping you understand what drives you, so you can build better habits to not just lose weight, but keep it off. Noom. Lose for keeps. Get started at Noom.com. Not all customers will clinically qualify for medications.

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2:16Welcome to Staying Relevant, the podcast hosted by me, Pete Wicks, and Joshua Sotheby Finley-Combes. Yeah, there's another one in there, though. There is another one. There's another one, and it's close to home. James, because it's the same as mine. Yep. And Pip-Ram. All good. Just the one. Just the one. This is the bonus episode, which means it's Thursday. this comes out audibly and then you can watch this on Josh and Kira's YouTube channel for 5pm on Sunday and then there'll be a main episode which came out Monday which you can now watch as of 5pm last night which was Wednesday which means you can catch us on a Monday Wednesday Thursday Sunday did you carry that on whilst I was off?

2:58not really don't think so it's actually worse when you sit here it feels awkward ooh ooh well after that remark don't even I like it no you do not no no no Well, no, I don't worry. I really like it. As you know, I have eyes on everything and ears. So I listened to all the episodes whilst I was off. What did you think? Do you actually listen to the pod? I listen when I'm off, yeah. When I'm here, I know what's been said. Of course. When I'm not, I don't know what's been said. But you do listen? Yeah, absolutely, yeah. Just in case there's things I need to pull people up on. Always got to do your background checks.

3:34This is the bonus episode, which means that it is supposed to be about all of you, which means that you can email us if you want to be involved at the worst email address in the world which is hello it's not the worst though you have to finish the email hello at srproductions.co.uk there we go thank you so much make sure you rate, review, do all of that crap you know the deal by now subscribe to the YouTube as well because you get all of the behind the scenes stuff and the very exciting thing that is going to be happening very very soon lots of exciting things that we can't actually talk about at the minute But we will be able to announce very soon because it's really annoying when you say to people there's lots of things happening, but I can't tell you.

4:15Something's coming. Something's coming. Keep your eyes peeled. Right, should we start with some emails? No, we've prepared something. No. So I've done a... Okay, okay. So Sam's not here. Sam's not here, which means that I've got Pippa and Josh. So we've just done a main episode, which effectively was just sort of a catch up, really. Really, you know, what do you mean you've prepared something? Because I was going to take this back to it, me being the talent, if you like, and this being my podcast. And it's all about you. It couldn't be more you-centred. Well, if it's all about me, then please go ahead.

4:51Just earlier was more of a chat, but then we thought we should do some actual things, shouldn't we? Yeah, I think it would probably go down well, yeah. Do you want to kick us off, Josh? I'm sure it's going to be lovely. Yeah, so the Pete Wicks starter pack. This is going to be awful. Well, strap in. You can, like, have a say as well, if you want. I can have a say in my own starter pack? If you want. Oh, that's very kind of you. We're going to present you what we've just talked about. We talk about outfits. Well, wonderful. I mean, if this is what we're going to do and you've actually prepared this, then just off the cuff, I might just give you your starter packs as well.

5:22So we'll see how you get on, kids. No, it's only a bonus. I don't think that's in the script. They're meant to be shorter than the bonus episode. All right. Well, we'll start with outfit then. Okay, so we're going to take it back to actually early 2000s, I think. Okay, excellent. Well, I know where this is going. I'm going to say to start off with I actually don't mind this right you wouldn't because it's a bit indie sort of I kind of yeah he knows exactly I kind of grew up like the skateboarding punk rock kind of scene band t-shirt yes but underneath the band t-shirt a long sleeved white top which I've been doing recently as well Ramones Motley Crue a few times recently great Metallica one that actually I had on the other day and didn't realise you did it again I didn't what when you wore it again.

6:05What do you mean? You didn't realise you'd want it twice. No, no, no, no, no, no. We had all the pub comments being like, why will Pete not take off that T-shirt? Because you wore it. Was it the same one? Well, I had a different one, a mechanical one. And I didn't realise that on the back of it it says metal up your ass. Until Liv pointed it out. And I didn't realise that. So she said, you've been walking around with metal up your ass on... You never looked at the back? No. Rock on. No, because it just had like tour dates and stuff on it. You know what I mean? And it's literally straight across the shoulders, metal up your ass.

6:39Are you going to wear it again? No. It's not on brand, is it? No, not ideal. Anyway, so yeah, band t-shirt. You're not mad about that? No, I don't mind that. Listen, you know, fashion comes and goes. Well, some ripped jeans, which is wearing again, and Vans actually with that outfit. Vans back. I said this is... I don't think it's bad. I just haven't seen it since we were teenagers. What? No, I've seen Vans. We can be kind of the T-shirt. I'm here to be a little trendsetter, you know? And also, you know, I'm sort of wearing what I'm told to wear now. Oh, really? I said keys on the belt. Oh, yeah.

7:17Right, I don't understand everyone's problem with this. So do you know where the keys on the belt kind of originates from? Motorbike. Well, yeah, so effectively, yes. It's one of them things because it's very hard. You don't have an awful lot of pockets. you always know where your keys are when they're on your fucking belt, which is why you get a carabiner. And that's kind of how you do it. They are. They're on there today. They are there today. Oh, the staying relevant key ring. It is a little bit like a janitor. The staying relevant key ring is not giving biker. All right. Well, do you want to know something even better then?

7:48That's not my keys. Whose keys are they? They're Liv's keys. Liv has a staying relevant key ring? Yes. What the hell, Liv has a staying relevant key ring? Oh, go on, Liv. Doesn't like the lighting, though. Go on, Liv. No, we'll get on to that. Doesn't like the vacuum. Josh was super upset about that. You can tell it's a podcast by two men. Yeah. We will dim it for you, Liv. It's fine. When she comes on here, we'll dim the lights. When? Good. When's that happening? Yeah. Oh, well, we'll see. When's that happening? We'll see. Anyway, so can we start, Kit? Vans, band t-shirt, ripped jeans. LV briefcase and cashmere dress socks.

8:24And glasses, obviously. And glasses. Yes, the glasses. Yes, grasses. Food we said, like a, obviously this might change now, maybe chilli, but like a wet, damp, like cheese sandwich. Yeah, like a petrol station. Limp, really limp. Yeah. A limp cheese sandwich. Okay, all right. Limp cheese sandwich. Cheese and onion crisps, I'm not like super confident in that. No, you're very wrong, actually. One of my least favourite. But I have seen you eat them. I will eat them. It's not that I hate them, but I'm actually a ready-sorted man. By choice. Keep it simple. Me too. You know what I mean? And then we ended with chocolate limes.

8:58Oh, those fucking limes. They're fucking amazing. Or a banana eclair. Huh? Really? You've had the banana eclairs? What? Have you not had a banana eclair? Banana? Pip. Say that again. Yes, don't buy it. Yeah? Banana. Banana. Banana. Banana. Banana. Banana. Banana. Yeah, banana. Banana eclair. Yeah. How did you first say it? I'm not sure You accented a weird part of the word Banana What? Banana Banana Banana Yeah, banana crisps Yeah, they're lovely So that you're also happy with that meal? I'm happy with that Apart from the crisps Yeah Was this supposed to slag me off? Because I'm happy No, no, we're trying We're actually really trying You're trying to slag me off No, no, no We're trying to get it right That would just be an accident No, no, I'm good, I'm good What else we got?

9:47Well, drinks Red Bull Yes, obviously Coffee And second one Guinea Stachio latte Oh, shit Yeah, no He didn't like Guinea No, because he doesn't drink much anymore You don't drink, yeah. You're sober now. But if... I'm not sober. I'm not tea-toked. But yeah, I'm happy with all of them. It doesn't have to be pistachio. Just any form of syrup, because I prefer that to sugar. Doesn't have to be pistachio. No. Vanilla, caramel. But you're quite loyal to the pistachio. If there's a pistachio available, I have pistachio. You would choose it. Yeah, yeah. I'll tell you what, just on that pistachio, pistachio cornettos have arrived.

10:20Oh, you love an ice cream. I do love an ice cream. You should have put that in food. You haven't done very, you don't know me at all, guys, do you? Freezer full of ice cream. You haven't even put the fucking ice creams in the freezer. Like the weird, like, blue raspberry twister or something. You know what I mean, guys? I feel like if this is you putting in salt, you know what I mean? Okay, phrases. I said moonhead. That's what you most often say to me. Insult, yes. Yeah, yeah, moonhead. Yeah, also, does that make sense? Yeah. You finish off quite a few statements with that one. But when we're outside and he's smoking in our face, And he's like, does that make sense?

10:54Does that make sense? Does that make sense? Does that make sense? Said with vitriol. Or he'll be like, guys, we're going for lunch at two. Does that make sense? Yes, it does. Well, it's because you all look blankly at me so much. I have to say, I don't say it outside of this studio. Whenever I say it, I'm going, does that make sense? Because you're all standing, like you're catching flies. And then we go, yes, yes, yes, yes. And then I said, like, something along the lines. Oh, I said, you make a joke about nuns a lot. But I forgot what it was. Drier than a nun's. Yes. Was it that? I think it might have been.

11:29Yeah. Probably blocked that one out. Yeah. And then like something like. Tire than a nun's arsehole. Okay. Yeah. And then. Along those lines. I also said something like, oh, Josh looks shit or like, are you expecting a flood? Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, but you kind of stopped doing that. Do you know we're expecting a flood? No, we've never got it. You know. Josh asked me multiple times. I kept going. For weeks after, what does it mean? I was like, I don't understand because it's quite hot outside and there's no. Right. water coming so Josh used to hasn't today and anyone that does this it's jack ups or when you roll your jeans up because if you were in a flood you'd roll your jeans up to walk through the water so why have your jeans so fucking high and not on your fucking shoes yeah I'll tell you why are you expecting a flood I'll tell you why I used to do that right because I liked the look on Converse high tops yeah because I don't like I want to see the whole shoe I don't want to see I'll just get low tops otherwise do you know what I mean right yeah so I've got high tops so you're going to see the high top.

12:24If you were wearing Pete's cowboy boots, would you have jeans? Yeah, because you want to see the... No, no, no. So Josh would be wearing them like this? You would have jeans to the neck. Also, just to point out, this is a roper boot. So sorry. Would you have... Otherwise, it could be an ankle boot. You want to see the whole boot. If I wore boots, I don't wear boots like that, but that's why I do it. Yeah, those are nice. I wore mine to that festival. I have worn mine since. Yeah. When? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Didn't you wear them for a night out? I think I did. Yeah, you did. That's crazy. Yeah, but I didn't roll my trousers up.

12:59No, thank God. All right, yeah. Then. Activities. Yeah, like how you would spend your time.

13:09Taking black and white photos of Rodney, taking black and white photos of sunsets early in the morning, or taking the black and white lift selfie, which you did do this morning. Yes, I did do that. Yeah, you love a lift. And I think Rodney had a black and white. picture yesterday I like black and white any time I open a story you can just put a bit of money on what it's going to be and you'll like your odds are always quite good yeah I agree with some sort of music over the top yeah like bring me water or like bring me water what are the ones like by the camels what's the like country it's like the water is flowing or like there's like they're all about water and they're like by Chris Stapleton alright should we go I'll just do a quick one run through for one food I don't think that was in here I'll just do a quick one food for you two Pippa outfit windbreaker Josh outfit clothes that don't fit food for Pippa anything gluten free because you have to be different there's not even a problem Josh vegetarian drink for Josh water because nothing that the demon possesses will pass my lips

14:15Pippa

14:19Pippa on drinks the least alcoholic drink that I can find that does have alcohol in it. Yeah. Some sort of cocktail. Phrase from Pippa. Do you know what I did?

14:32Josh, I love my daughter. Activity for Pippa. Rescuing and stealing random people's cats. Activity for Josh. Not sleeping and holding his daughter, just looking at her and stroking her hairy shoulders. So there we go. It's a quick run through for you both there. She peed on me last night. The baby, the baby, the baby. We just thought we'd check through there. All right, nice kids. Well done. That was fun. Did you enjoy that? Yeah, it was good. That took us ages. Yeah, well, actually, worrying that, isn't it? We're absolutely incredibly worried. We were sat out there going, I don't know about this one.

15:07Yeah, we had like a little small meeting over it. Oh, it's nice to know that you've been spending your time wisely during the Staying Relevant. Shall we get on to the emails now? Yeah. Are you happy to do that? Yeah, back to you in the studio, Pete. But thank you ever so much. So, email. Now, hi, Sam and Pete. And you know what? She hasn't written it. Wrote it? She hasn't writ it. Wrote it? She hasn't said, but we'll add Pippa and Josh onto this. Me and my friends were debating red and green flags the other day, and we couldn't agree on a lot of them. I feel Pete's verdict on some of them might be slightly different to ours.

15:41So what does Pete think of the blow as red or green flags? So let's all do it then, shall we? Also, I love that it's addressed to Sam and Pete, but only my thoughts are the ones that she's asked for here. So, remembers tiny details you mentioned weeks ago. I think we'll all agree on that one, surely. Green. Yeah, absolutely. It's a green flag. Greenest of green. I think that is greenest. The greenest of green. The greenest of green. Yes, I completely agree with that. Doesn't text back for 12 hours but has been active on Instagram. Red, red, red. Context on this though. Yeah, but also like, that doesn't bother me.

16:16It doesn't bother me either. What? It doesn't, it really doesn't. If they want to get back to you, they'll get back to you. You're active on Instagram, you're actively ignoring me, red. Well, it depends though. If you've asked a question on WhatsApp or text message. Okay, yeah. If I've said like bye, then fine. You know what I mean? I'm not overly bothered about that one, but I do see how that would be an issue for other people. Got time to post on Instagram. What if it was a question? What, and then you post on Instagram? Yeah. What sort of rude **** are you? Yeah. That doesn't matter though.

16:47But it doesn't bother me that much. That doesn't matter. To be honest with you, I mean, obviously it does. To be honest with you, it wouldn't really affect, I mean, people, someone was discussing this yesterday. I, at any one time, have, I mean, I've got over 300 unanswered WhatsApps currently. I don't reply to people at the best of times. I'm quite bad at replying as well. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It just doesn't really bother me, but it does bother a lot of people. I imagine that would send you wild. person. But not if it's someone I'm dating. I'm taking it in the context of dating. Why? Like if you didn't reply to me for 12 hours and post something on Instagram I'm not like super mad at you.

17:30It'd be a bit like myth. So what about if it's your friends? Um no not. I'm gonna go depends on the context. Amber for that one. Okay. Next one funny one. Gets jealous but insists they're not a jealous person. I, controversial I think jealousy is not always bad. Yeah, to an extent, I agree. To an extent. I think it's showing that you care. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But when it borders into obsessive, aggressive controlling, we have an issue. Healthy jealousy. Healthy. Like, you know, I like the fact, if you're in a relationship, that other people want your partner. I don't think that's a problem because it doesn't matter if other people want them.

18:14It matters what they want. you can't help other people you can't control the people fancying your partner or being interested in your partner can you but it matters what what they actually want i don't see that as a bad thing it's not their fault if people want them no it would just be their fault if they did something there you go i mean i wouldn't love it what so you just like loads of people throwing themselves at my boyfriend i'd be like yeah but it's down to yeah but then it's like lucky girl you yeah yeah yeah yeah but like let's keep it that way well yeah but that's down to him so that's but that's not part of jealousy that goes into you know a trust element there yeah but it's I would so let's say let's say Jack was a rock star yep very him very Jack yeah rocker and he's in a band called the Gilos yeah he wore it today he asked if it was appropriate or whether it is a good name they're all lovely people all armless no it was good I tried it appreciate the explanation does it make sense do you know what I mean and listen and you had loads of people he was playing Glastonbury screaming girls at the front woo pizza that's his surname I don't know why they're not calling him Jack Would that bother you?

19:39No. Why? Because that's his job. She'd be too busy taking selfies though, wouldn't she? But if there were screaming women outside of his office, that would be an issue. I wouldn't like if I'm on a night out and there's loads of girls coming over to him all the time. All right. So let's give you a little role play. We like this. So you and Jack are on a night out with your friends. Like, for example, that night I came to you and we was in the pub. Yeah. Jack goes to buy a round and then the girl behind the bar goes, oh my god you're so good looking and he goes oh thank you darling like thank you darling what the hell what would he say instead of darling uh he'd be like oh thank you very much okay thank you very much um would and then he came back and then he came back and went barma just said i was really good looking she's like she asked for my number i said i had a girlfriend would you get jealous um if he said thank you very much i have a girlfriend and she politely was like oh okay yeah totally fair and backed off then shoot your shot do your thing but if she persisted and continued then what and she said not that one in the windbreaker then what and i'd be fuming and i'd go over oh really what would you say what do you mean one in the windbreaker what's the problem with my windbreaker and she'd go well you're wearing a fucking windbreaker in a pub i'd be like okay well he's my boyfriend and you're not in a windbreaker and you still can't get him loser yeah damn so would you start a fight start a fight what do you mean can you fight Pippa yeah I used to do judo yeah yeah but you used to be a fucking power walker and lost to Sam and I so when you say you used to do judo you both cheated let's talk you know what sort of bet were you I used to do loads of things I did judo horse riding ice skating when you were a child yeah I quit them you quit I quit judo because someone sunk on my neck.

21:30Right. Fell on my neck. Oh, shit. So I quit. Right. White belt. I never got to yellow. Would you bring back any of these activities that you used to do? Yeah, I liked horse riding and ice skating. Okay, so you'd like to bring, not at the same time, obviously. No. No? Ice skating, I quit because I fell and I hurt my nose. And horse riding, I quit because I fell off when we tried to canter. So all of these things were great until you got injured in the moment. Yeah. Which suggests you weren't good at any of them. there's a common denominator with all these activities it's more like I don't really like continuing after I fall at the first hurdle so basically all that says to me about you is that you can't follow through with anything I'm a bit of a quitter you're a quitter okay I am a bit of a quitter yeah all right okay I'm okay with that it's good to know I mean I know we veered away from the green and red flags being a quitter green and red flag red flag for me yeah red flag no I think you just so what we're saying so what we're saying is that people is sort of a red flag you accept what you are not good at and what you're good at.

22:26And we can't all be good at everything. But if you fall at the first hurdle, you could get up and try again. I didn't want to. Okay, yeah, because you quit. Because you're a quitter. Yeah, because I would rather have quit. You could have won the next fight. Just a quitter. All right, next one. Starts wearing your clothes and accessories. Uh-oh. I think this is a dangerous territory to go down. Are we talking a cross-dresser? Or are we... Or is it like a T-shirt at night? Yeah, like a girl borrowing your T-shirt or hoodie or whatever else. I don't I quite like that it doesn't bother me like we're just talking I quite like that if you're you know your missus you know starts sort of wearing your all of your clothes then I don't think yeah she went out in like outfit but unfortunately and I don't know how this will go down it's slightly different if it's the other way around yeah you know what I mean if Jack sort of just if you were if you were popping out for one of your double dates with fucking Sam and Tally and you both you're always invited you're always invited and he popped down and went do you mind if I wear this?

23:24And it's a dress. Then I would. What would you say? I'd say you can do whatever you want. No, you don't believe that at all. No way. It's still close mates with their ex. You're going to give an alternative. No. Because it's all in the phrasing. Close mates, red flag. Okay. I think you can still be friendly with a past, provided your partner knows everything about that. And I think it's context. It's only like if you're in the same group. Yeah, if you're in the same group. I think it's weird to be in the same group. Yeah, but if you're all in the same group and they're still there and you have to like co-exist.

24:06Oh, okay. So let's say you have a partner that wasn't part of the group and you're in that friendship. It's weird because then you're just inbred fucking your entire group, aren't you? But if you have a new partner, you're introduced to the group and someone in that group and you've all been friends for years is one of your exes. But I think as long as you tell your partner everything, your new partner, about that so that they're prepared for every situation, then I think that's okay. But I think close mates is weird. If you're on the phone and you're texting your ex and shit, then I think weird.

24:39Crazy. But if you're an event or you're in the same friendship group or whatever else and there's someone's fucking birthday and you're all out, I think it's fine to be nice and like, yeah, he's my mate now. You're so right. It's the word close. It's the close. And I think if you have no connection anymore, like you don't have kids, you don't have a shared pet, you don't, you're not like, whatever. If you have no connection, you have no joint friends. I'm just going to hit you on saying else here. Shared pet's fucking weird. What do you mean? There's custody over animals. Oh, what, like someone would have to take the pet?

25:10Absolutely. Yeah, yeah, yeah. No, but say you're going through a transitional period of who's keeping it. But yeah, I think, to be fair, we're agreeing on a lot of this. This next one is going to be an interesting one because I know you've done this with Sam previously. Wants to have you on Find My Friends. Now, before we get into this, someone explain to me what Find My Friends means. Have their location. So this is the thing where you can track where people are and all that sort of shit. Okay, what did Sam say? He said no. Okay. He said he doesn't think you should have each other. We don't use it.

25:40You don't need anyone's location, I think he said. Okay, all right. But there's a little bit, it depends, right? We don't have Find My Friends, so it's not like all the time but if say Jess was out and on her way back home I'd be like send me your location yes just in case because then I can like yes make sure everything's right with you Josh absolutely if um if they're off out somewhere um separately from you um then I think yeah that's fine to have the location if they're in a fucking uber or in a car or whatever else absolutely send location to have it at any one time i think is fucking mental um i think i think i think it's controlling on either side i think it's absolutely controlling and uh voyeuristic and an invasion of privacy yeah because the other is just safety yes i'm just looking out i do think it's voyeuristic i absolutely do i don't even know what that means and i don't just mean in partners when people have their friends I've got curers I've got like 30 locations yeah so when it comes to colleagues someone enjoys to know everything yeah I've got so many it's quite controlling that I've got like friends of friends yeah controlling friends of friends of friends yeah so you like to keep just in case your friend doesn't know what's happening it's like if we're at some sort of festival you know me we're at like a festival or a big event or something we all share them yeah that's a specific I still have it.

27:06Well, turn it the fuck off. I don't want to be the first to turn it off. That's what I mean. But now and then, and I can imagine, because I know you, we'll go to the pub and we've had this conversation. You'll just bring it up and go, oh, that person's in Stockwell. Yeah, let's invite them. They're in Northampton today. I've got so many. Do they know about it? I wonder what they're doing there. Yeah, because they've got me. So they have to accept it. I don't just collect people. Oh, hey. They can have mine back. Yeah, they're not Pokemon, Josh. Christ. Oh, I'm just saying. They have mine back.

27:34I think it's quite controlling. See, I just don't like the idea of that. I think it's invasion of privacy. My cousins. Do you have loads? Annalise, do you have it? Kira? No, because... Yeah, yeah, yeah. You're a nerd. Is this like a Gen Z thing? I was just about to say, I do feel like generationally here, the adults are all normal and all you kids just like to know what you're all doing. No, I understand your point, but I'm... I never... I think you're a nosy fucker. I've never in my life have messaged Jack, like, why are you there? Right. Like, genuinely, I have never been. I'd never been like, what are you doing there?

28:11Where are you? But that's good. Thanks. Yeah. Are you sure? 100%. I think there's just an ability to. What if Liv asked for your location? No. Would he say no? Yes. Really? Yeah. To have it on her phone all the time. Yeah. I mean, to be fair, I'm with her all the time. But no, I just find if we're ever away from each other, then I think that's fucking normal. But I just think it's odd. And also, I don't think she would. I think it's odd. I'll have your location. You fucking know. The last thing I need is you knowing where I am and what I'm fucking doing at one point. But yeah, I just, I don't know.

28:52I don't know. I get it for a safety reason. I guess it depends on your use of it. Yeah. Also, if you've just like, I'm never anywhere that I don't mind people knowing where I am. Yeah, but this is what people always say when they're nosy. Neither am I. It's not about that. No, no, no. So why would you need it then? So you don't need it. Well, that's when Jack's on his way home. I know when to put the dinner on. Yeah, or you could... And I don't have to text him every day going, when are you leaving work? Okay, so it's a way for you not to speak to your partner. It's a way for me to not have to like nag him on like little...

29:28What time shall I put dinner on is not nagging, though, is it? Yeah, but every day. I feel like when people have dislocated, it's an excuse for them to make up a reason to be nosy. No, I just don't like... Because you just call your partner and go, what time are you home? That's so long every day. Been together eight years every day. Are you on your way home now? We can test this. I'm coming home. Let me just search for Josh. Call Josh. What time are you going home? That's so long every day. Jack would be like, oh my God. All right, no worries, I'll get dinner on. All right, let's go into... If Jack texts me every day going, when are you home?

29:57It's about an eight second difference. Every day that piles into a lot of seconds. But what if they don't pick up? If they don't pick up? Valid point, G. Why would you, but why would you need the specific answers? If they don't pick up, so you then, so if they don't pick up, you're going to go and search where they are. Yeah, like if they're driving on the tube, like then you want to get dinner on, but you can't get dinner on because you haven't heard back. So then, but sometimes it's easy to be like, oh, they're on the way, I'm going to pop it on. or you just sort of agree this is what time I'll be home and be there what if something comes up well if something comes up something comes up that's just that's fine I'll know about it so you moved dinner I'll know about it because I've already seen I'm just I think it's a younger person's thing to want to know everything oh that was a healthy debate that one yeah you really got into that I used to be on the debate team that was a throwback quit that as well and we see why yeah So let's move on to question time, shall we?

30:57Do you know what? I'll hand it back over to you two. Crack on with the question time. We've got a game. We've prepared. So if you do want to be part of question time as well, then just, it goes up on our socials every week. So just write in your questions. And we generally try and pick the best ones or the ones that we've got today. Either or. Someone asked us to play the Gen Z, actually very topical given what we were just talking about, Gen Z versus millennial game. What's going to happen is... What am I? A millennial? Very millennial. I guess you're millennial. Shit. You're on the long team.

31:27Yes, I am. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So it's me versus you two again. And Kira's millennial, yeah? Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You were close. I'm super close. This is a 3v3 situation here. Okay, so G's going to read out a first name. You have to say the first surname of a person you know that pops into your mind. Like a famous person? Yes. Because otherwise you wouldn't know. Not like Darren Fowler. Like they'd have to be a famous person. Okay, excellent. That is an old school joke for someone who's been listening since like 2023. All right, all right, got you. Okay, yeah? Yeah. Ready? And is it just, we just say it as quick as we can.

32:05Yeah. Okay. Alex. Earl. Baldwin. Do you know who Alex Earl is? Alex Earl? No.

32:17She's got a reality show out now. Oh, it's a bird? Yeah. Oh, okay, all right. So, okay. Harry Styles. Potter. Nice, yeah. Harry, I would have gone Enfield, but... Oh, my God, that's amazing. Justin Bieber. Bieber, yeah. Better watch out for Celine. I think everyone... Timberlake. Or Theroux. Huh? Who? It's actually Louis Theroux's cousin. Of course, of course it is. He was also married to Jennifer Aniston. Really? he's an actor really Justin Theroux yeah Ryan Reynolds yeah famous Ryan yeah yeah yeah Michael McIntyre McIntyre over Jackson are you Gen Z yeah is that even Gen Z McIntyre I'm not entirely sure that is Michael McIntyre yeah instantly everyone's going to go Jackson Jackson or next to that for me would have been Kane Sheen Sheen that's millennial That's a good one That's a millennial one Jackson just Was nowhere near for me I don't know if that makes me a boomer Maybe Nick Knowles Have a Nick Nolte Jonas Jonas Nick Jonas I didn't even have a Nick I didn't even have a Nick Go on then Just do another one Lily Alan Okay Gen Z's I said Alan What did you say?

33:47Alan Is she Gen Z? Don't think so She's been around for years Hasn't she? Yeah She's come back with her new album. Yeah. Kelly Clarkson. You're fucking, listen, for 27, you're old. And the last one. Do you know who I interviewed at the NTAs last night? Just sorry on Kelly's. Kelly Osbourne. She's lovely. Did you? Sharon Osbourne's daughter. Yes. Ozzy Osbourne's daughter, yeah. Sorry. Did you used to watch the Osbournes? No. But she's lovely. Anyway, sorry. Vanessa Hutchins. Helps. That's the best one. All right. Lovely. That's the best one. Okay, not bad. All right. So another question. Pete's reaction to the funeral video.

34:28Yeah. I think this was Sam's best video. Yeah. Well, yeah. I mean, a lot of effort went into it. Certainly. I think the launches have worked out well for Sam because he's found a way to make them work for him, which is good. A lot of effort went into that. He actually got Jessie, that girl that works for him, to make the coffin. I wondered who made the coffin. Did he? Yeah, yeah, yeah. He got Jessie to work with it. But to be fair, it was quite funny. That was so good. Liv was in another room and was laughing so loud. And I said, what are you laughing at? And then she showed me it. Really? Yeah, yeah.

35:04We were going to actually do a reply, but we haven't had time. What would you do? Oh, my God, that would be so good. Well, she's been and gone now. She was going to be cooking dinner and then see a picture of Sam and I and a frame and then push it into the bin and then serve me dinner whilst I was tucked up in bed. oh my god I think we should cut that and you should still do it we haven't got time to be honest with you and it's been gone now hasn't it god that would be so good but yeah it's very good getting like a little back and forth listen it's Sam's thing isn't it he's very good at all the content stuff isn't he right will the Tash be staying

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38:02I mean, Natasha's had an awful lot of airtime, I'm going to be honest with you, and it's a pun but it's growing on me I quite like it I can tell you like it yeah what do we think it's growing on me at first I was last sure it's not it's growing on me but I don't hate it you kind of have one no I'm jealous I can't grow shit you could get a tash though because you can't grow it anywhere else but you could get quite a solid tash I think but you I'm not sure how I think Josh, you should join the task row. Do it. Just for a while. Just test it. What about in November? You're dead now. I don't know about, I don't know.

38:45I just, I don't think it would suit me. I think I'm... I don't think it suits me, but I'm embracing it. I disagree. I think it looks alright. Do you know why? I think it would look weird if it was on its own though. What, because it's still got a bit of stumble? I think it looks quite cool with it being shorter on the sides. The AI is a Gen Z millennial thing. Do you know who Tom Selleck is? yes no right so I'm getting a lot of Magnum P.I. Tom Selleck that's it that's what's going on and I will fucking take that Google it I'll tell you who you know how you'll know Tom Selleck is Friends I've never seen Friends Jesus Christ yeah I know is that a millennial thing I think that's unique for me like I think I'm in the minority there well Friends was 90s wasn't it yeah I suppose that is us then Jesus fucking Christ so yeah I think it will be for how long I'm not entirely sure I'm not entirely sure how long I'm thinking maybe I have to handle by it all the way down did you do that on Strictly I think no to that I was Freddie Mercury yes on Strictly that was that was intense that one yeah I'll be honest with you yeah but I don't know how long it'll stay I'm sort of just I think no to all the way down no to all the way down I thought you were just going to say what about if I grew like long sort of mutton chops I think no as well no what about the soul patch no no I think no whilst we're on sort of facial hair and all the rest of it I think it needs to be mentioned alright and I think we need honest responses to this right now Sam's gone dark again for winter has he?

40:13yes yesterday no it has been for the last couple of weeks he redied his hair and beard since we saw him well yeah have you not did you not see him yesterday let me just bring up pictures so he has gone back dark again oh yeah that is darker in the beard how do you feel how do we feel I thought he was going to go lighter no he went lighter for summer and then he's gone back dark again so with the beard but now doing it himself I just think Sam would look good if he buzzed his hair and just had the beard I agree I think it would be a real look because he's got quite a strong face he's got a good jawline yeah but he says he's got a weird shaped head I don't know how I would feel about someone saying I had a strong face yeah it's a strong jawline I think as a man that's a good thing yeah but is it just strong I'll tell you what she's got a strong she's got a real strong that would upset me she's got a strong face that would upset someone goes you've got a strong face that was a compliment yeah I guess I guess but yeah I mean so how do you personally feel about the darkness yeah for autumn winter for autumn like them too I believe in a thing called love for autumn winter I think it makes sense for autumn winter it makes sense yeah lighter for the summer months and then darker yeah I just hope the tan doesn't come back with that because I feel like he was really tanning when the hair was dark.

41:33But do you not feel with the darker hair and if he doesn't have the tan, he's potentially entering Twilight? Potentially. There is potential. But I'd rather that than orange. His reasoning, as he mentioned yesterday, is because he caught himself in the mirror and had let himself go again. Obviously, we went through the glow-up stage and he feels like he let himself go again. So now he's re-glowing. Oh, he, what, yesterday he caught himself in the mirror? No, no, no, I think recently, because he dyed it quite recently. Have you not seen, noticed this? No. It's considerably darker again. I haven't noticed.

42:12Yeah, it's considerably darker. But yeah, he's, so we're now re-glowing again. Oh God. Sorry, I keep itching myself and you're probably wondering why I keep doing it. My tattoo, I've been tattooed again. I'm having all my ribs done currently and it's in that itchy stage. I keep doing it. I need to stop doing it. What did you get done? I've had Poseidon on the side of my ribs. Oh, interesting. Can we see it? I wasn't expecting Poseidon. I'll show you when it's finished because we're halfway through. But I've been Poseidon on one side and then sort of some snakes on the other. Why not? Just to fill up the gaps, really.

42:48And Poseidon will come with a phrase because, you know, I love a deep, meaningful phrase. I didn't know if Liv's story about her face was a joke or not. But it was. Yes, of course it was. Would you think I'd get her face tattooed? Yeah, maybe. No, not until she asks me properly. No, no, no. No, I've got Poseidon and then a lot of snakes. Yeah. Not live. No, not live. I just have to fill up that top part and then that's me done. Apart from my adventurous leg. What about the SR leg? It's there. It's the adventurous leg. It's the SR... Knee. Knee. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Maybe you could get Josh. Yeah, if you want.

43:29What, like a picture of... No, just Josh. Or my name. Just Josh. I would if you... I'd get all of your names in a list if you like. I know. You actually would. Order of preference. Yeah. That would be tough. Oh, yeah, yeah. Let's not go into that one, shall we? All right, lovely. Right, I think you should do an outro then, guys. You'll definitely start on this one. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Don't let her do it, because we'll be in another 45 minutes. Well, thank you for listening to Staying Relevant, the podcast hosted by two best friends, Peter, James, Jonathan, Joseph, Jeremiah, Jezariah, Josiah, Wicks Oh nice And Sam, who's not here but you've got us You lucky things If you want to send us an email, send it to Good, that's good Hello at srproductions.co.uk Send nice things about Pippa, she really needs it Thank you Nicely done Pippa, yeah, ta-da This has been a Staying Relevant production

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We also put some relationship hypotheticals to Pete for the ultimate red or green flag verdict. From posting on Instagram but ignoring your messages to sharing your location on Find My Friends, which sees Pete and Pippa get a little heated on the topic…


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