Bonnie and Clyde

23:33He was really good at stealing cars and he was really good at driving cars fast.

23:38Josh Clark:Yeah. Should we take a break? Yes, I think that's a great idea, Chuck. All right, we'll be right back with more on BNC.

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27:40Josh Clark:So we're back with Bonnie and Clyde. They are starting to get a little bit of press at this point. And the newspapers show up at the hideout in Joplin, Missouri, at the Airbnb. be. Once they found out what was going on, they found, you know, guns. They found this poem that Bonnie had written, which we'll get to in a second, a little more detail. They found that undeveloped film. So you can imagine they developed that film of these like soon to be infamous photos of Bonnie with a cigar and all this stuff. And it was front page stuff. And like everybody was all of a sudden, like, really kind of captured by the allure of these gangsters.

28:21Yeah, because not only are they, like, doing, you know, newspaper article-worthy crimes, getting away from the cops, killing cops, now there's photos that they can run alongside of them. So everybody starts getting in on the act, not just the press, but also true crime magazines, newsreels. Like, they became famous overnight. Like, they were already local legends in Texas. After those photos started getting published on The Wire, that was when they just really became icons.

28:53Josh Clark:Yeah. I mean, attractive young lovers, they're having a good time because in these photos, they're, like, goofing off and having fun. Right. So, obviously, just something that's going to capture the public's attention. They published that poem that you referenced earlier. It was called The Story of Suicide Sal. Mm-hmm. And I read the poem. I'm sure you did, too. Mm-hmm. She wrote this in jail when she was briefly in jail in 1932. And, you know, it's an okay poem. It's not the greatest thing in the world. But when I was reading it, I was like, I wonder if anyone's ever put this to song. I was like, surely someone has.

29:25Josh Clark:And I went online. I was like, oh, yeah, there it is. And I went and played it. And I was listening to it. And it was this woman. And it was like a country sort of version. I was like, wait a minute. I was like, this, I bet this is not real. And I looked, of course, it was freaking AI. from like February of this year. Oh my God. Like all completely fake. And I was just, it left a really nasty taste in my mouth. I'm sure. And well, it should, man. Yeah. You got duped by AI. Somebody said AI, make a song out of this Bonnie Parker poem in the style of Juice Newton. Yeah. It was more like, I don't know, I can't think of a country singer right now.

30:09New country stuff, like country pop.

30:11Josh Clark:Yeah. I mean, it wasn't poppy. It sounded country. But the way the woman's the fake woman's voice, I don't even want to call her a woman. The computer voice was just super sort of modern Nashville polished. Yeah. Yeah. I hope AI, when they take over, don't come back and punish us for saying things, derogatory things like we've said about them over the years. Yeah. Remember the guy on the train in Canada that I overheard talking about AI? who was on the ride from Ottawa to Toronto. Yeah, but I don't remember what he said. He said, he was talking about AI. He's like, some people don't like it. Some people do like it.

30:48Josh Clark:He's like, I mean, I can't wait for AI to get here. Like it was coming to dinner. I was like, bro, it is here, my friend. Right. Yeah, sweet, sweet Canadian. You need to get off the train more often. Yeah. I tell you what, he knew a lot about NHL hockey, though. I'll bet. Like basically every Canadian does? Yeah. One thing about that poem, too. So in it, she uses a bunch of like slang, like underworld slang, basically. But it's still a serviceable poem, especially for a 22-year-old who dropped out of school at 15. And I think that that's like a really good back of the envelope sketch of Bonnie's personality.

31:28She was very bright. She excelled in school, but she dropped out at 15 and she was fascinated with the underworld and like outlaw stuff so much so that she started living that life because she found a guy who was living in that that life and she decided to be with him, you know. So that was that's her basically encapsulated. Yeah, I totally agree.

31:52Josh Clark:So there, the public, again, is enthralled at this point. They're in, like, the True Detective Mysteries magazines and stuff like that. In 19, you mentioned that Clyde loved cars and, like, loved to boost them and also drive them. And he loved Fords, and he wrote a letter in 1934, supposedly. I don't think they verified it from him, but it certainly sounds like it was to me. wrote a letter to Henry Ford. And he said, part of the letter says, while I still have got breath in my lungs, I will tell you what a dandy car you make. I have drove Fords exclusively when I could get away with one. For sustained speed and freedom from trouble, the Ford has got every other car skinned.

32:33Josh Clark:There's your ad. And even if my business hasn't been strictly legal, it don't hurt anything to tell you what a fine car you got in the V8. And judging from, you know, We later got poems from Clyde as well, and there were a lot of misspellings and stuff. And I said he wasn't the brightest bulb because of his upbringing, of course. But it sounds to me pretty legit. Yeah. Yeah, I think at least Henry Ford was like it's legit enough to have his secretary craft a thank you letter to send back. That was pretty funny. Yeah. And you said that they become popularized in true crime magazines, in part as folk heroes, like I said at the outset.

33:16And one of the reasons why is they're committing these crimes at the height of the Depression or the depth of the Depression. And people were rooting for people who did things like rob banks because the banks were the villains at the time. They were foreclosing on hardworking, honest people. Yeah. And so if you robbed a bank, you kind of automatically became a folk hero. And people like Bonnie and Clyde so much that those true crime magazines basically attributed scores of bank robberies to them that they never did.

33:45Josh Clark:Yeah, for sure. Apparently, they were popular enough that banks would, if they got robbed, they'd be like, yeah, Bonnie and Clyde just robbed us. Just to have that brush for celebrity, even if it wasn't them. Yeah, I mean, get it in the paper. Mm-hmm. For sure. They also, you know, they did kill a lot of cops, but they also let a lot go by way of kind of taking them with them, which is technically kidnapping. Sometimes cops, sometimes civilians that they would kidnap and then just drop them off in the middle of nowhere, basically. So they didn't have to kill them, which, you know, that was a better choice, I guess.

34:22Josh Clark:and they were also like, you know, this is a time when you get away with crime a lot easier and come and go is a lot easier just because of communications and the way things worked. And they would, you know, they'd go home and like visit their families and stuff and not get caught. Like they didn't have their family's homes staked out at this point. No, but they were also really safe about it. They were very smart. Like they'd write a message in a Coke bottle and just throw it out of the car as they were driving past at their mom's house or whatever. Like they were they were smart. They assumed the phones were tapped and all that stuff.

34:53But if you're an outlaw that are well known around those parts and just show up at home is still pretty, pretty risky. Oh, for sure. So after Joplin, after the little vacay in Joplin that ended on a shootout with the cops and the death of two cops, they kept moving. They got back on the road and they were in a car wreck actually at one point, like a couple months later. And it was a bad crash. Clyde was going really fast. They rolled the car. And Bonnie got third-degree burns on her leg. I saw from one account that she was burned because the car caught on fire. Another account said that it was acid from the battery.

35:36Either way, she had third-degree burns down to her bones and no options about going and getting actual medical treatment. So she was in a lot of pain and limped and hopped and was carried in some cases. For the rest of her life.

35:52Josh Clark:Why does it surprise me that cars had batteries then? I think that was actually very new. And that was one of the reasons Clyde was able to steal so many cars is because you could hotwire them now. Okay. I think that was super new. All right. Which is probably why it leaked all over money. Yeah, I guess. They didn't have the caps. No, they're like, just don't tip it over. Don't roll your car over and everything should be fine. All right. So good driver, except when he's crashing cars. Later, they wrap. I think it was that was in June of 33. They robbed a store in Alma, Texas. Another gunfight with two cops and they killed another cop.

36:32Josh Clark:Marshall Henry D. Humphrey escaped again in July. July, they were not at that Airbnb, but they went to a different one in Missouri, another guest house. And the owner, and I never had heard of this, but it makes sense. Apparently back then, if you would back a car in, they called that like gangster style because you want to get out of there quick. And that was sort of just a red flag. So he noticed that they backed their car in. The other thing he noticed, to me, a bigger tell, is they taped newspapers over the windows. Right. And they paid for their meals with coins. And it turns out some vending machines nearby had been robbed.

37:09Josh Clark:So this was all just like, the guy was like, well, maybe I should call the cops. So they did. The cops came out. Guess what happened? Another gunfight. Guess what happened? They escaped again. But this time, Buck Barrow, his brother, was wounded pretty badly. And Blanche was too. Blanche got shards of glass in her eyes. I'm guessing temporarily blinding her. considering the jobs she had later in life? She was blinded in at least one eye. So I don't know if it was permanent or not either. I didn't see that anywhere. Yeah. So they actually made it, they escaped from this gunfight with the cops in Missouri and they made it all the way to Iowa and they found like a park.

37:51They were hanging, laying low in this park, trying to keep Buck alive and I guess tending to Blanche as well. And again, they backed their car in gangster style and that caught people's attention. They also left the car running when they went to town to buy supplies.

38:10Josh Clark:That's extra gangster. For sure. Either that or you just got places to be, you know, but I guess people were jumpy back then. Yeah. The cops showed up at the park. Somebody followed them or said these people are staying at the park right now. 50 cops show up, another gunfight happens. This is like a day or so, I think, after the first one. And Blanche and Buck, Buck gets hit again. and he's like, I can't make it any further. You guys go on. Blanche stays with Buck and they both get arrested. Bonnie, Clyde, and WD make their escape and they actually get away. WD finally says like, that's enough for me.

38:46I'm done. He did the whole blackjack dealers like I'm out thing.

38:49Josh Clark:Yeah. And he went home to Texas. Yeah, so he goes home to Texas while Buck is arrested. I think five days later, he dies. So Big Brother is now gone, Blanche's husband. And when W.D. goes home, he's arrested in pretty short order, I think in November. And he told the cops, like, yeah, I was in the Barrow Gang. But he said he was forced into it. And because of that fact and because he was a kid, they were fairly lenient on him. They sentenced him to six years in prison. So, yeah, I think W.D. kind of got the least of it out of anybody. Because also at this time, like there are other people that they're kind of coming up against doing some crimes with here, there.

39:33They're going in and out of prison.

39:34Josh Clark:Yeah. Pretty, pretty frequently. And as a matter of fact, because he was shorthanded, he actually, Clyde, staged a prison break. Remember the old Easton prison farm? That Clyde had learned to hate and had changed Clyde, essentially, right? Well, he had people on the inside, and he and a guy named Jimmy Mullins busted these guys out. They busted out Henry Methvin, Joe Palmer, a guy named Hilton Bybee, and Raymond Hamilton. Remember him from the earlier section? He had been captured and sent to prison, and so they busted him out because Clyde needed more help because now WD was gone and so was Buck.

40:18Josh Clark:Yes, and killed two guards in the process here, so that's two more down. I mean, the bodies are stacking up at this point. Well, one of those guards, I think, may have been purposely killed because he was known as such a brutal guard. He would leave his post just to go beat inmates. Yeah. So it's probably not coincidence that he was one of the two that were killed during this. Like get one on the way out? Mm-hmm. All right, so the gang is still on the run, and it feels like the noose is tightening a little bit. Like the original gang has now partly died and been in prison, so it's been splintered.

40:55Josh Clark:But they're soldiering on with new people. And in April of 34, Bonnie Clyde and Henry Methvin were in, and he was one of the guys they boosted from prison. Yeah? Can you say that too? Yeah, you can boost somebody from prison, sure. Okay. What about when you just give somebody a boost, like an emotional support? Where does that fit in? Um, that is, let's see, I guess that would be Clark and somebody some support. Yeah, Clark, Clark me some good feelings. Yeah. Uh, so, uh, where was I? Henry Mithin, they all went to Grapevine, Texas at this point. Um, a couple of highway cops, highway patrolmen saw, thought they were stranded motorists and stopped to help them out and they killed them.

41:38Josh Clark:So two more cops dead. and then five days after that, they killed another cop in Oklahoma and kidnapped a police chief. So things are getting really pretty intense at this point. Yeah, I mean, three cops in two days, I think? That's, or three cops in, yeah, three days, something like that. That's crazy. So this was, yeah, you kind of get the impression that things are starting to move really, really fast at this point, right? Raymond Hamilton, he was recaptured. I think by like a month or so after, but he'd already been involved in the murders of these cops and like a bunch of other robberies and stuff.

42:19So remember he had been busted out. So when he was recaptured, not only was he being resentenced for escaping prison, but also for all the crimes, including murder, that he committed in the short like month or two that he was out. He was sentenced to the Texas State Pen in Huntsville and placed on death row there. He also escaped there, too, but he was recaptured again. Do you know how hard it's got to be to escape from death row? How hard? Really hard. Okay. But he had already actually split ways with Bonnie and Clyde when they finally recaptured him and sent him to Huntsville. And they had had a falling out.

43:02Josh Clark:Yeah. Yeah, they ended up sending a letter to Hamilton in prison saying, like, you know, you stole from us and you're a coward. So, yeah, it was a pretty bad breakup. It was. There was no love lost. Should we break up this episode? Oh, good call. All right. We'll be back to finish up on Bonnie and Clyde right after this.

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47:32Okay, Chuck, so you had said a little while ago that one of the reasons they were able to be so successful is because they were, there were a handful of reasons. One, they typically kept their targets pretty small. They were small towns, often mom and pop groceries, maybe like a gas station, something like that. Every once in a while, a bank. But remember, like all of their crimes were exaggerated. So they were supposedly two of the greatest bank robbers that ever lived, even though they'd only done a couple of banks. So by making their takes pretty small, I think the biggest take was like 1 ,800.

48:08which is less than 50 grand today. That was far and away the biggest take. Sometimes they'd make enough money just to buy some groceries or something like that. They kept themselves small. They made themselves small targets. What made them huge targets was killing cops. You know, like that definitely catches the attention of other cops. And there was another Texas outlaw named Willis Newton who said killing that first cop, Eugene Moore, was their true undoing. And then all the cops after that just made them even bigger targets. But one of the other reasons they were able to still get away, even after killing all those cops, is because those cops in the different jurisdictions were not coordinating in any way.

48:48Josh Clark:No, I mean, that didn't happen back then. It's not like they were being stubborn. That was just not a thing that had really come along yet, like working interstate with one another or even inter-county, probably. Yeah. The FBI wasn't quite a thing yet. the Bureau investigation was, and all they could, they did start investigating them, the, I guess, the BI in December of 32 and did get a warrant in May of 33, but it was only over interstate moving of the stolen cars. But they did get involved with the local cops and start sort of providing information, providing support to like the local cops and the state agencies as, you know, part of the eventual dragnet.

49:30Josh Clark:And it seems like the cops in Texas and Louisiana are the ones who really sort of got together finally to zero in on them and focus on these guys. And when the Texas Rangers come on the scene, that means things are really serious. And that's what happened after that second prison break. The Texas Rangers got together. This guy came out of retirement, Captain Frank, not Hammer, but Hammer, I guess. He probably he probably called himself the hammer. And he was like, I'm coming out of retirement to get these guys and had a posse of six Rangers. And he's like, I've killed 53 dudes in my law enforcement career.

50:07Josh Clark:So it was really on at this point. It was. He coordinated with a guy named Henderson Jordan, who was sheriff in a parish in Louisiana, Bienville Parish. And the reason he's significant is because Henry Methvin, remember, he was one of the guys that got busted out with Raymond Hamilton and some of the other guys and joined the gang. Methvin was now a part of the gang. He lived, his family lived in Bienville Parish. And supposedly, Henderson Jordan, the sheriff, had been approached by Methvin's family, who were alarmed that he was wanted by the cops and with Bonnie and Clyde, these notorious outlaws.

50:45And they said, look, we can get our son to cooperate. He was basically Daryl in Red Dawn, essentially. That's Daryl's dad's car. It's the mayor's car. So his family is like, we'll get him to cooperate, but you got to give them clemency, but we'll get you Bonnie and Clyde if you make sure our boy doesn't get the chair for all this stuff. And so Frank Hamer and Henderson Jordan are like, let's make this happen. This was ultimately the downfall. Trusting Henry Methvin was what brought them to their end.

51:19Josh Clark:You know, I'm still mad at Daryl after all these years. I know. The second you said Daryl from Red Dawn, I was just like, oh, that guy. They picked like a perfect actor for it. That guy really suited that part. Yeah, he was one of the bad socias in The Outsiders too. Oh, I didn't know that. So that fits. Did you know that S.E. Hinton was a teenage girl when she wrote The Outsiders? I had no idea. It's crazy. So they kind of figured out their route basically and that Bonnie and Clyde were driving a lot to that Methvin home in Louisiana on Highway 154. So in May of 1934, they were like, all right, we really need to get this done.

52:00Josh Clark:And this is where the famous ambush happens. There are different kind of disputing accounts of exactly how it went down. But it seems like they got Methvin's dad's car out on the road and parked it there with the wheel removed. So they would be like, oh, that's your dad's car. Like, it looks like he needs help. So they would pull over. They had those six Texas Rangers. They had automatic rifles. and as soon as that Bonnie and Clyde car showed up, they just started firing. They were like, we've seen enough of these guys work to not let them open the doors, not try and arrest them or whatever because they're going to be shooting at us.

52:36Josh Clark:So they just basically shot the crud out of this car and to great effect. I mean, they murdered the crud out of them. They did. They got them. Yeah, Bonnie was shot 26 times. Clyde was shot 17 times. Further research says that it may have been as many as 50 times. They were kids, you know, they were 23 and 24 years old. And it was pretty gruesome. And the people in the press went wild over this ambush. Yeah, they towed the car with the bodies inside. That's crazy. Yeah. Well, they also laid in wait and executed them without giving them any chance to give themselves up. So at this point, basically anything's on the table, right?

53:22Josh Clark:Yeah. So they towed the death car, and I guess it essentially immediately became like a tourist attraction. They sent them both back to Dallas for burial, and both of the funeral homes where they were, they were each in a different funeral home because Bonnie's mom, Emma, was like, in death, they can't have anything to do with one another. I couldn't talk her out of being with them while she was alive, but I'm calling the shots now that she's dead, and I don't want her anywhere near him. Yeah. Both of their funerals were thronged with onlookers. But even before that, while their bodies were just basically hanging out in the public, all these basically souvenir seekers were trying to cut off their body parts and stuff, right?

54:05Oh, yeah.

54:06Josh Clark:Just like looting what they could to get a piece of the car or maybe to get a blood-soaked handkerchief or something like that. And, yeah, supposedly some guy tried to cut off Clyde's ear. their death photos are, you know, you can look those up if you have a strong stomach. They're pretty nasty. And their funerals attracted like thousands of people to come and see the burials of Bonnie and Clyde. After they died, there was sort of a lot that went on. There was a book initially from Bonnie's mother and Clyde's sister. They got together and wrote a book called Fugitives, colon. Colon. The story of Clyde Barrow and Bonnie Parker, they started publishing more poems from Bonnie and Clyde, one from Bonnie called The Trail's End, or The Story of Bonnie and Clyde, and then another one that I mentioned earlier that Clyde had written sort of as response.

55:01Josh Clark:And in both of them, they're kind of still talking about like, hey, we didn't do all these crimes, we're not as bad as everyone makes us out to be, that kind of thing. And key, though, in one of these, Bonnie had requested, at least in the poem, someday they'll go down together, they meaning them, and they'll bury them side by side. So that seemed like that would have been her wish that she did not get. No, because her mom said, heck no. I read his nephew and her niece, maybe, great niece, have been trying to draw up support to bury them, rebury them together. But it hasn't gotten anywhere. Yeah.

55:38Josh Clark:So, as I said, a lot happened. And basically what happened from this point forward is the cops were like, it's not good enough just to get like Bonnie and Clyde. Like we got them, but we need to just dragnet the whole operation. And so all of their friends and family that were ever aiding and abetting or anything like that were rounded up. I think Dallas police got 20 friends and family. Everybody was found guilty. You know, not very long prison sentences. I think the max was like a couple of years. but they wanted to get everyone who ever touched part of this gang and put them away. Yeah, and I mean, yeah, two years for just basically being friends with Bonnie and Clyde, that's a lot, you know?

56:21Yeah. Raymond Hamilton. Aiding and abetting is like,

56:24Josh Clark:yeah, we were just friends. Right, right. Like they might have stayed at my house and I might have given them food and hid them from the cops. Like ammunition and stuff. That's what friends do. Raymond Hamilton and Joe Palmer, they were both executed in Huntsville at the prison in Huntsville on May 10th, 1935. And Henry Methvin, he was, so there was this, I said there was a disputed murder of one of the patrolmen that a farmer who supposedly witnessed this said that he saw Bonnie like go over and execute the cop at point blank range, blowing his head off with a shotgun and making some grisly, tasteless remark about it.

57:00She supposedly wasn't even -

57:02Josh Clark:Like I'm about to head out or something? That would have been good. No, something like, look there, his head bounced like a rubber ball or something like that. Right? So the kind of thing where you're like, wow, she's really despicable. And of course, everybody printed it because this farmer said he saw it. What historians now believe is that it was actually Henry Methvin who actually did the killing. And the reason why he wasn't implicated was because his family's plan to bring in Bonnie and Clyde was already in motion. So now the authorities had to cover up his murder of a cop before he could turn in Bonnie and Clyde.

57:39So it was attributed to her and almost certainly wasn't her.

57:43Josh Clark:Yeah. Methvin was eventually paroled in 42 and died six years after that. And the story is he was hit by a train. He was either drunk and got hit by a train or maybe was shoved into a train and murdered. But no one was ever tapped for that. As far as Blanche, she was Buck's, you know, Clyde's sister-in-law. And Buck's wife, who was blinded in one eye, she served six years, was paroled in 39, and wrote her book, My Life with Bonnie and Clyde, no colons, and went back to Dallas and, you know, lived a life there. Worked as a taxi dispatcher and a beautician, cared for her dad, got married again. And the death car, eventually, you know, it would end up at Buffalo Bill's Resort and Casino in Prem, Nevada.

58:29Josh Clark:I think that's where it is now. But for a while, it was, you know, a lot of this stuff, like the guns and the cars, like everyone wanted a piece of this. I think everyone knew it was going to be worth a lot of money. So various family members had to sue various institutions to get this stuff back. Like, and in the case of the guns, Clyde's mom was like, I want those guns back because Clyde had never been convicted of the murders. Like, he was just shot in cold blood. So I want those guns back. And I think the car, like the original car owner, Ruth Warren, was like, hey, that was my car to begin with.

59:07Josh Clark:The cops can't keep that thing. So she sued to get it back and got it back. Yeah, and before I ended up at the Prim Valley Casino Resort, it was a traveling amusement at, like, circuses and carnivals and state fairs and stuff. That's right. I don't know entirely that we would just know and everybody would be walking around knowing that there was such a couple as Bonnie and Clyde were it not for that 1967 movie starring Faye Dunaway and Warren Beatty. I never saw the movie so it's not like my understanding of them comes directly from it but all the people it informed I think it brought them back up into the popular culture again and they never really left since then it's a good movie the great Arthur Penn was the director who had another Stuff You Should Know connection and that he directed The Miracle Worker as well oh okay yeah that's he's basically a friend of the podcast then yeah two Stuff You Should Know movies good movie though But it was the year after the Hays Code ended, you know, the movie codes that tried to rein in sex and violence.

1:00:13Josh Clark:And so there was a lot of sex and violence in this movie and glamorization of crime and stuff like that. And that ambush scene is like a sort of a legendary film scene because it shows it all. It's pretty gory. But it was a big, big movie. And I think a lot of gangster movies kind of started coming around in its wake because it was so popular. Yeah, it was huge in the U.K., apparently. and it set the stage for other bloody movies to come. Everything from The Wild Bunch two years later to Pulp Fiction, which was originally written by Eleanor Roosevelt, to basically every violent movie you've ever seen.

1:00:50Bonnie and Clyde essentially set the stage for that.

1:00:53Josh Clark:That's right. I tell you what, if I'm ever near Prim Nevada, I'm going to go over to Buffalo Bill's resort and casino to check that car out. I'd like to see that. And his death shirt, too. Yeah, they got his shirt. Yeah, it's crazy. I mean, it's full of holes. Yeah, and not in a bad plot sort of way. Boy, you're full of holes. All the zingers today, aren't you? That little shorty for WD or little 40. Oh, yeah. Did you catch that one? Yeah, that was a good one. You got any other little zingers? I got no other zingers. Okay, well, then that means this is the end of the road for Bonnie and Clyde, as far as Stuff You Should Know goes.

1:01:35And I think that means it's time for listener mail.

1:01:40Josh Clark:That's right. And we did not plan this, everyone, but here's the listener mail. Hey, guys, I wanted to share a moment from the Eleanor Roosevelt episode that gets a gold star for Josh. I have a long history of Josh-like moments where I will add in an absurd, impossible fact when talking to my wife, such as a local construction site being a dining with your pets restaurant or coming or lava fields in the California desert being a huge disposal site for used asphalt. And my wife, over 25 years of marriage, has become very canny about my quote-unquote facts. And it's very difficult to fool her anymore.

1:02:12Josh Clark:However, when Josh said in her writings, Eleanor Roosevelt wrote an initial treatment that became the script of Pulp Fiction, I saw my wife process that fact for about 10 seconds with narrow eyes and complete confusion followed by a loud no. So thank you, Josh, for that magic moment. And thank you both for all you do. very long-time listener. I started listening when there were only about 100 back episodes, so 100 episodes in. And that is from Sam and Lisa. Nice. Thanks, Sam. And yeah, that wasn't planned. What a coincidence, huh? As soon as you said it, I was like, oh boy, Josh is going to be so excited.

1:02:44And I am. And I was. And I still will be probably for hours after this. Sam and Lisa, right? That's right. Sam and Lisa, thanks for the email. Thanks for listening to us for so long too. And if you want to be like Sam and Lisa and send us an email, you can do that too. There's nothing stopping you except no access to the internet. If you have access to the internet, you can send us that email to stuffpodcasts at iheartradio.com.

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