Natasha Lyonne

25:00I know you're friends with Chloe and like that whole group and like the 90s. Like growing up in the 70s and 80s and NY. Tell me about that. I know about my life. You know? Tell me about that. Well, I mean, but you're like hitting. I mean, mine was very different. It was, you know, I was. So you're into disco? I loved disco. I was interested, but I was like. You were in 54 yet? I went to 54, but like the second iteration, Friday nights, I was 15. we would go we'd say we'd go into a movie we'd go but I wasn't I was you know it wasn't like in the heyday I was 15 and 16 in 1982 so like I wasn't wild though I wasn't like hitting the streets downtown if I could do anything again growing up in New York in the 80s I loved it I would have leaned into taking more risk I kind of came from there was I didn't have that rebellious street and I actually think it's really important to have it and when we grow up in places there's something intrinsic that you have in you and I have in me because we grew up in a city like that so like you kind of you learn very quick how to navigate how to learn how to sense danger how to be on the subway how to walk street smart street smart very important you can't social 101 it's 101 baby read the room it's like read the room yeah and you know and it's like quick No one's going to steal a single crouton off their plate no matter how many times I walk off.

26:26I could wander off in the distance. I could steal that palm tree, whatever that is referring to. What is that? You don't know. You don't know. I don't know. What is that? That is not a palm tree. It's a palm frond? Yeah. No, it's not exactly because it's skinny, right? It's skinny. It's thicker. You're telling me you could scoot that plant out of here? I'm telling you I could take that whole plant out of here quicker than they would ever take a crouton from my life. you know man his basic New York Street smart like true you just like you have that yeah and let me tell you the person that dared to take that crouton they would be missing their hand I would love it I would nothing would spark how quick is your temper in LA like my temper is not it's not quick round that kind of thing that I would consider an act of mischief and a merry prankster move so I would have deep respect immediately right right I'm like what's your name um sir you've got the part what part I'm making a movie about a cup of water.

27:22I don't have all the other parts, but the studio's very concerned. They're saying something about structure. And I told them, when you get there, you'll know, babe. All right, have you ever seen a glass of water? Breaks itself, okay? Clearly, fucking very seen. Glass of water, tight-up glass of water. Man walks over, steals crouton. Boom, home over. You know how you're in? Yeah. A lot of those kids that you're talking about, they come from different families. You know what I mean? that more of the man are born. My grandfather was a mason, a bricklayer. Your grandfather was a mason? Yeah, and my grandfather, the other one ran a restaurant.

27:57He died young because he was a heavy smoker, a heavy drink. I'm so sorry, are you saying smoking is bad? Yeah, smoking is bad. Because I need to call somebody really quick. Yeah. I mean, I'm happy that I am the one telling you that smoking is bad. I'm so sorry. No. This has now become a PSA. Yes, yes. What are you saying? Because I read a long article today that said news broke, thanks to the new administration. And it said distinctly, item 909, which, you know, inverse is really just a 606. Smoking actually turns out it's really good for your big tobacco is bad. Yeah, no. That 909, you didn't see the addendum.

28:44You didn't put on the end. You forgot from that bureau that now no longer exists. Oh, I see. That was meant to be put in. They obliterated the bureau. But they fired that person. Right. Honestly. That's why they said smoking is good. Yes. And, of course, the tobacco companies gave, you know,$6.2 billion, you know, to the family to then say smoking is good. Right, because we gave you money. Is there any way to get that cash as an advance? You don't think, because I'm the same, who else is willing to do a smoking campaign right now? You don't think they could get me? Oh, I actually think you could get a smoking campaign.

29:21Thank you. And I actually think you're actually ahead of, of course, you heard it here first. The smoking campaign, they would pay you so much. I'm trying to get it for you. I don't understand. Well, you certainly can launch the campaign in Europe. Listen to this. That's the end. Right, that's the end. That felt great. Don't listen to a thing anybody tells you. You have that. You grab your seltzer. And you know what? You get back to business. And if somebody gives you a dirty look, you say, hey, you looking at me? Now, I know what you're talking at. You don't do that. And then you blow a smoke rain in their face.

30:01Guaranteed five foot's a ditch. You'll never catch COVID again with my smoking brand.

30:14Well, let's talk about your commitment to, and the work you've been doing with AI, because you... Visteria Studios. Yeah, Visteria Studios. You are, you see the... Do you see the threat of it? Do you say, okay, wait, this is going to exist. We want to be in control of our images, and be, you know, the whole thing, because it's crazy cuckoo. Like, so, I guess, most of them, five years ago, maybe? Maybe ten? It's all, to put it in a minute, it's all a long fucking day, man. And, you know, I think that I started going down these, like, rabbit holes, like, from that sort of, like, first, like, Bill Bryson into, and, you know, I am, I'm, like, an honor, so I'm a student, which is something that I brag about a lot.

31:09The Russian all writers in the room makes fun of me a lot. They're like, we know, honor so much. And I was really into, you know, philosophy as a kid. I would write my journals. They're terrible. They're all like third person. I'm just trying to like, you know, Simone de Beauvoir or something. I'm trying to be like, so they're all kind of like, you know, man must. And it's like, who is man? And it's like, man must what? And I'm like, you know, learn that he cannot rely on his fellows. I don't know why that's my I was just trying to leave there's like a pseudo-intellectual LSD-laced teenager I was at a Tom Waits or something so by the time I got into this Russian knowledge I was like yeah I brought in Victor Frankl Man's Search for Meeting Wilhelm Reichs you know who invented for beginners who invented the you know the organ therapy it didn't end well it's sort of like you know You go in here, you have orgasm, you can fuck your way to happiness.

32:09Nazis weren't a fan. And then it even went a little bit loopy, to be honest. And so I brought in those books, and I was like, okay, great. So we're going to make a half-hour comedy for Netflix, and let's use these two books. And the third book was I Am a Strange Wolf by Doug Hofstetter. So essentially I got very interested. Okay, so in Once Upon a Time in America, in all that jazz, In Jojo Dancer, Your Life is Calling, and in The Singing Detective, they all have a recurring theme, which is, you know, even in Once Upon a Time in America, De Niro wakes up, and he's in the, you know, opium den with the phone ringing, and then he's able to track back a whole life of, like, when they were kids to when they were kings to, like, when it fell apart.

32:56And same, like, you know, Gideon and all that jazz is, like, Rich Eder is, you know, I think it's probably usually my favorite movie. I mean, like, it's hard, Nights at Cabiria, whatever. I don't know. It's, like, hard to not be, like, I mean, if you hadn't seen Clockwork as a teenager. Well, I did. That's what I mean. Like, it's hard to unknow. Yes. It's hard to unknow. Yeah. So, multiple things. Okay, the one movie I left out there is Jojo Dance of Your Life is Calling, which is the Richard Pryor, where he, like, you know, stars himself. that post is like burning yourself on fire from his crack addiction and rice directs and stars in producing whatever but it's also inside of a hospital bed have you seen that The Singing Detective with Michael Gambon no I mean I'm like literally gonna have to like text you and I want like a list so much scenes so much I have but I need to like we should do like a little festival one weekend I had this written into my living will which I learned from Nora Ephron so don't worry you guys are on top of it absolutely Sorry to say But yes You're going to have to Get the film form For a month Because they never Much respect Yeah and they're just Double features of things Like you know It sets things up Like this All that jazz Paired with To answer your life Is calling Right right Okay And so on It'll have Yeah maybe what we'll do Is once by a time In America With Saturday Night Fever You know what I mean Then we'll go Like it'll be things Of that nature Right okay Make sure everyone Gets to see the hits Right And you're dead When we're doing this Yes, yes, yes.

34:25Right. But with Claire, were you at Nora's funeral? Yes, I was. Lincoln Center, remember? Yes, it was beautiful, yeah. Yeah, but remember how it was all pre-planned? Yeah. I mean, it was all pre-planned. She was, there was nobody like that woman. Nobody, like, if I did not, if I did not have Nora in my life, when I did, like, none of this would have happened. Really? None of this. Give me more about that. The first draft of Russian Doll was me and Nora sitting in that weird station, you know, under Penn Station. Like, there's a nice, classy restaurant outside. Not going inside with the oysters.

35:07Yeah, that's what I was thinking. See, New Yorkers really told us more. She's like, no. She's like, not bad. And I was thinking of all the oysters. Yeah, and not bad. That's a close, fair spot. But I was, and we were there, and she was like, wrote down everything. So it's like, you know, she's from New York. She chain smokes. You know? I remember one time in a while, let me stay at her place here in Bel Air for a movie that actually got defunded. It was so indie. I was like, what are you doing? You can't let me stay here. You know? I used to get a blanket. And she said, oh, would you just shut up about the fucking drugs already?

35:42You know, my next-door neighbor was Oscar Levant. We get the idea. Just call the housekeeper when you're done and smoke outside. Enjoy your life. Right? I mean, come on. Like, the ultimate thug. Yeah. The ultimate thug is a great... Oh, my God. That is very true.

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39:51Thanks for joining us for Table for Two. Our guest, Natasha Lyonne's show, Poker Face, is back this week for its second season, and she plays the main role and serves as an executive producer. The crime comedy has been a hit with audiences and critics alike. What does she feel makes the show so special? I got to talk about Poker Face. Please, talk to me about whatever. Talk to me about this. This is interesting. Yeah, okay, talk to me about it. Poker Face is launching whenever, though. A stereo. Talk to me about that. Poker Face is a wonderful show. It really is. If you like Columbo and you're...

40:26And you like Big Lebowski and you like Elliot, Wilden, Rob, Alderman, Song Goodbye and also in California Split. You love Knives Out. Yes. And then you also love Columbo. And then you also have the patience to endure this person who I can't imagine watching for 12 hours straight. Personally, but it's your choice. I don't have to. Only when I'm directing. so you know I would just say yeah there's so many great people on it this year we got Cynthia Erivo we got Mulaney we got we got we got we got Method Man that was the one I think don't tell don't tell Mulaney but he made me made me laugh a little bit harder he did I think I will tell him directly to his face when I see him in a couple weeks actually on the show yeah he's hysterical he is he's very funny but I'm not sure that he's as funny as Method Man from what's in Really?

41:24Yeah, yeah, yeah. All right. No, but he's running into tight race, tight clip. Okay, okay, good. So it's a sensational cast and season, Justin D 'Arua, so many great people showed up. And I was like, it's very moving also because like the friends are basically just popping in to be like, hey, how you doing? Clay DeVall came, directed an episode, me, the Cave directed an episode, Ty West directed an episode. You know, I do and, you know, but really the people on tight with on Poker Face are the, like, the camera department I mean, and like the crew, the first ADs are like my ride or dies. Right.

41:57You know. Becateen's like been, I've done everything since my first short with me. You know, like we go back, I don't know what it is now, like 15 years or something. It's Orange, Orange, Russian Donald. Boca Pace, my first fucking art short film. And so it has a really catchy title. So this is how you knew it was a hit. Cabiria, Charity, Chow City. Oh, why? Oh, so it turns out that... Interesting. So, Sweet Charity with Shirley MacLaine is actually directed by Bob Fosse, is a remake or an interpretation of Fellini's Knights of Cabiria starring in Giuliana Messina. So, when... Cary Branson used to film one of these Kenzo fashion films.

42:39Right, right. You know, then they started hitting me up, and I was in it. And along with Mahershala Ali and Kim Gordon, all these great people. And Roan Blanchard. And then, so Carrie says, oh, you should do one. And I'm like, what? No, I'm not going to do, like, a short fashion film. I'm like, you know, I got to make Deer Hunter out the gate. And then, no, this is not, like, the fuck around show. Yeah. But then I was, like, talking to my speakerphone in Fred's car. And I was like, ah, I just don't like shorts. But, like, what if it was in gibberish? Is that something that, like, you know? Like, what if we invented a language?

43:17Do you know what I mean? And so it was called, you know, Caviarity Chastity because this was going to be the third part of the sequel no one asked for. Of that Fellini Fasci, you know, into my very humble hands to align myself with them. Right. With Maya in the classic Giulietta Messina. Yes. And, you know, Shirley MacLaine. And I think that people understood exactly what I meant. but it was really actually probably Sun Tung was the cinematographer who's like a fucking giant I mean he does all like part-time movies and like that sequence in Old Boy that long corner of like that fucking kill I mean he's just incredible and Arian Phillips in the costumes like for sure everyone really showed up I sadly have not seen this and need to see this I mean come on I didn't come out during the La Strada School for Clowns sequence.

44:18And, you know, I come out in fall and, you know, Jillian Messina makeup and so I'm also, I was always trying to, like, me holding up camera lenses as an actual, you know, Fellini clown and they're all in Fellini clown makeup. You know, it's very important. You don't, have you never made a movie? Have I ever never made a movie? You must. You must. I know. You must put those felini clowns in there nobody will watch it i make it all subtitled because it's a third language that doesn't exist only it's a friend of mine wait i mean who is the genius of geniuses i mean i mean my uh rudolph we're talking about is just i mean it's my queen i just think she's oh it's also just ridiculous because she'll just like the two of you together how baby i mean but And she would just, she would like, you know, she'll kind of like come to the set a little bit like, oh, where's my teeth?

45:15What is this set? You know? And then all of a sudden someone says, she's just like, boom. You know what I mean? The power of wig is also like that. Yeah. One time we were in Alam at the Bowery and we were having a, this was 20 years ago, we were having something, 10, 15, I don't know. I can't have no set anymore and who cares? Time doesn't exist anymore. But yeah, we were like, time was like, Like, I think she was having a breakup or something. And then it was really, like, emotional and, like, all the way in. And then the waiter came over and she went right into a voice. And I was like, that is a superpower I do not have.

45:49I have this more come-as-you-are thing. I'm like, I got to, like, be in the pocket. Right. To kind of be a little bit of a, you know, ragamuff. To get it. Yeah. To get in that, like, you know. Right. You know, Bridges, like, the dude. That sort of lean back. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I don't even want to be here. If there happens to be a camel. want to point it anywhere but here like okay so let's talk about a story so basically you know as a result of doing all this like sort of like quantum physics research essentially which was like definitely way out of my depth that i don't understand anything about anything but you know i do understand things like certain things so essentially like there's a theory um called um it's called the Urn of Invention, and it's essentially the universe is made up of, so the codename for season two of Russian novel is Black Gumball, okay, because in this Urn of Invention, you have gray gumballs, and you have white gumballs, and inside of there, there's only one black gumball, so I'm very upset that I never got to shoot that scene, because I had it very much in my mind when, like, you know, young Nadia takes the gumball out of her hand, it was just, it's a scene that in my mind I've already seen and that's very frustrating.

47:11So I'm going to have to get that done. Fire walk with me now. And then later in return, I talked to Derek Lynch about it. I'm very sad that he's gone. I lived in my neighborhood. And yeah, our last exchange, I was like, you know, hello, sir. You know, do I need to evacuate because I'm in Puerto Rico? And he said, yes, you should be evacuating. And I said, copy you. we'll see you on the other side and he said indeed I welcome that was really eerie like it's it's fucking like bon gonzos that's just and he in that meeting he held up a pencil to me you know and also told me that I remind him a lot of like this old girlfriend he had from high school which was like made me feel like I was like is this a vibe or whatever and I was like because I'm down and And I don't even get what happens.

48:07I just want to be a witness to the witness in an outer body fucking levitating state over there while you have sort of like some version of it. And so, bring me accent and tank, baby. Am I scared? And so, make me more blue velvet. Baby, let's go. Baby, let's do it. Baby. So you held up a pencil and you said, you know, because I said, what are you thoughts on A.M.? because I was, you know, building this thing. And he said, well, this is a pencil. You see that? And now everybody has a pencil. But not everybody can do the same thing with a pencil, and that's what distinguishes the artist. And, you know, the writer or the whatever.

48:50And, you know, in talking to, you know, Brian, you know, Brian had this kind of, like, breakthrough sort of, like, moment. He was so pumped. he had come back and he'd seen like some of the the new tech that was merging and realized it was like more be thought of almost like as a camera lens or something that it was just going to be a new medium so sort of of course we had talkies to we had our silence talkies and you know we had oh my god how are we ever going to and no you must have these giant cleave lights and you must be sweating profusely like you that's how it's done and uh you know and we must stop at the nightfall There's no such thing.

49:29You know what I'm saying? And, you know, now, and there were, there was just sort of in a weird way, actually very similar. It was like, there were like all the Keystone cop stuff and all that Mabel Norman, Fatty Arbuckle, Charlie Chapman, who I bring up because our offices are actually located in the Mac Senate studio in Silver Lake. That was like the Mabel Norman, you know, tied up a tree across the street. Right. So what our discovery was, was that the foundational model

50:01that these LLMs or whatever, these generative AI machines were being built on were inherently dirty with illegally uncopyrighted data scraping from everything. So right now, if you go to one of these Google VOs or whatever, you can just type in, give me Toy Story 6, and it'll literally give you Toy Story 6. It's just that graphic. and essentially I guess what Altman is positioning for right now and who knows but this was like the letter that kind of like I don't know but just by fucking I just stayed in that fucking Betsy Manger style fucking text messaging motherfuckers who are not having it on a Saturday but being like except for Cable Ann check cause that's a thug you see and so she was like no problem just do it Phoebe thug she was like you got it let me go get Martin in thug like certain people just like have no they're just like, they're punks, you know what I mean?

50:56And they're like heart of hearts. And you can tell other people were like, let me see how this goes in. Three days, all right, I did it safe, you know. But it was essentially to sort of like form this coalition and to stand our ground because we literally looked at the office and realized on a Friday that it was actually, the petition was due by 11.59 Saturday PM. And we're like, wait, what? And Chuck, you know, from Moon Valley was headed to her flight back to San Francisco. and it was just like us and the officer and I was like how are we going to do this? I was like that's what we just do it.

51:29There is no time and it was miraculous to see that kind of like Jesse Gordon-Levitt was like so helpful that he because he was like I think that you should ask because I was asking everyone for feedback in the beginning because I'm like I'm not going to be the author of this thing like I'm not going to and he was like you've got to add this paragraph about very specifically like how this impacts other industries that are done as well because it's actually a global issue So somehow, you know, Nick Amfloni, who works at this, uh, hysteria too, who's like, uh, you know, I had done a ton of animation at every like major fucking studio in town, but he's a real dyed in the wool kind of like artist first person.

52:08Um, he, he was writing it with us. It was like a real, I don't know. I have, I was just winging it. So that's how I knew how to be there. Uh, cause that's my usual thing. Um, but it was essentially to just sort of cock block a bit. I don't think that's the political term for it, but maybe in this administration it actually is. It might be, yes. It's a thought. How can I say this in a way you guys will understand, if you're listening? Yeah. Dr. Trump. So, snap cock blocking the artist. You see what I'm saying? Yeah, right. That's very clear. That's pretty clear because it just feels like if you actually have this kind of, you know, sort of like the cards align, you know, the matchsticks match.

52:47And so you can actually suddenly studios and networks and agencies and managers and talent and TikTok talent. Like they're all incentivized for the same thing, which is protecting their kind of underlying IP ownership. And, you know, to the best of like our abilities for everything that's come from the past. That's really like, you know, kind of their arena in a way. You know what I mean? Like anything to, I guess, not start a strike. But, like, they cannot, I don't know, they can't be trained on stolen IP. Of course, contracts right now, it's not stolen IP, but it's from the studios and networks.

53:22He builds our model on, because Brendan's a documentary, you know, filmmaker, and, like, a piece core guy and everything. So he paid all those filmmakers or, you know, with, like, these investors and stuff. He was able to get that paid for their work for the underlying model. You know, but, like, you know, it is a question. of kind of, you know, well, the studios, they technically, based on the old deals, they own the IP ownership of the, um, every, everything that they made, right? So, like, some of it would go to creators and stuff. So, that's, like, something, like, a nugget I'm trying to crack as, like, a side, um, arc that, uh, but, you know, uh, this whole idea of, like, also just really kind of, like, lockboxing, blackboxing, and guaranteeing our futures, whatever it is, right now, they're actually petitioning just for like to literally make it legal under the auspices of national security in China to you know scrape all data theft which means automatically overnight all writers that dies there is never another case so like you I don't know what it is I've never I'm not um you know I'm not let's just actually let's just people are crazy people I've sort of made that a rule in my life I was like we're all good I'm not gonna actually sue you I'm just gonna you You know?

54:38Right. But like, I don't know how, I have no idea. It's way out of my depth. I'm trying to figure it out a couple hours Googling. But you know, it's just, it's really going to be quite complicated. So it's like, that's what's so crucial about like everybody in town being like, hey, this is just like, this is what we do. Right. Like, you know, and then, because right now they're just trying to make it no holds barred. Right. It's already happened. Right. It has happened. So, I mean, it is a change that exists that we are living in and we're seeing. The regulations need to be, the fight needs to be, or you lose.

55:19We all lose it all. We all lose. We lose everything. At the end of the day, you lose your identity. I guess you've got to make a Shakespeare monologue in the park for free. It is wild. Not to knock on Shakespeare, but it's not my favorite thing the city offers. I'll be honest. I did love Mark Rylance That was a great performance I mean I like some of the zingers You know what I mean? The classics The big ones, the big hits I like the big hits Yeah, you know, it should be an answer to me I'm like, I don't know bro, I get you, you know

55:58This episode is the last of our second season I've loved sitting with so many wonderful guests over the last year, from electric interviews with Kristen Wiig and Jeff Goldblum to thoughtful conversations with award winners like Divine Joy Randolph and Adrian Brody. As I sit with Natasha at a table of sliders, fries, pizza, pigs in a blanket, and many glasses of seltzer and Arnold Palmer, I'm so grateful that you, the listener, have joined us for our lunches. Natasha is one of a kind and the perfect guest to share our final meal of the season.

56:40I mean, I gotta say, as we kind of wrap, I mean, this has been one of the most enjoyable Table for Tuesday. Bruce, did I get enough about you? So what's the new restaurant? Tell me about that, baby. There's no new restaurant. It would be something like in the DNA of Old School Italian Steakhouse, New York. Or, you know, speakeasy Italian. Probably, you know, with the DNA of Bozzi's. And it would be small. It would be, you know, there's a bunch of friends that we share on the East Coast. So, like, when you're ready, you should get back in. Like, you know. Yeah. Because I always feel like I like a...

57:16I'll go in. I'll go in. ...seedy. Yeah, I'll go in. I'm about that age. I like dark. Yeah. Yeah. And we need a new spot. Right. We need a new spot. So, I think my thing is, Ava, who's 17, who you've met, once she's out of high school... She's going to be like, where's my six? like the person when do I get to drink underage for free excuse me where's my speakeasy steakhouse I thought you were my dad yeah this is a multi-generation redo it so maybe but you know right now like my eye is on her my eye is on you know this and we're going to figure out the next chapter and yeah I do think we're at the top of act three is that how you feel I think we're at the and that used to not be when you turned when you were getting close to 60 yeah Act three, there's a full act in act three.

58:02There's a full, if you do it right, 20 to 25 years where you're like, I'm in the game. And then whatever. You know, bad willing, you got your health, you got your body, you got your brain. Yeah, I do. I feel like I'm at the top of act three. Yeah, you are doing good. I also feel like I'm at the top of act three, but you know, 28 years. You're not in the middle of act two. No, you think so? Maybe, yeah. I feel like I'm like coming to the close of act three. at least I'm running as fast as I can you know yeah yeah well cause I'm like I always think I'm dancing as fast as I can yeah time's fucking catching up I'm like watching like my sound fucking sand in the hourglass these are the days of my lives and they are numbered and on that note thank you for joining us I'll take this to you Tosh thank you Natasha gorgeous and you know what it's pronounced Leon yes Yes.

58:59It's not for Leon. Yes. Bianca, Bianca. Bianca, Bianca. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you for joining us. Thank you so much, Bruce. This was lovely. I'm so happy to do it. Thanks for having me.

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