Netflix’s Next Move, Zuck’s $170B Florida Mansion, the Billionaire Tax Push | Diet TBPN

4 Mar 2026 · 31 min · 18 chapters

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Episode Information

  • Title: Netflix’s Next Move, Zuck’s $170B Florida Mansion, the Billionaire Tax Push | Diet TBPN
  • Description: Diet TBPN delivers the highlights of the full TBPN episode in a condensed format. This tech talk show features discussions on current technology trends and industry developments.
  • Hosts: John Coogan and Jordi Hays

Key Topics Discussed

  1. Netflix's Strategy and Financial Moves
  2. Shift in Perspective: Ted Sarandos, Netflix's co-CEO, has historically been critical of movie theaters but has recently praised them after a deal involving Warner Brothers.
  3. Stock Performance: Netflix's stock has increased by 22%, attributed to strategic acquisitions and Sarandos's public appearances.
  4. Content Licensing:
  5. Discussion on the complexities of content licensing deals and potential implications of Netflix's financial capacity to acquire content.
  6. Questions raised about whether popular shows and films like "The Sopranos" and "The Dark Knight" will become available on Netflix.
  1. The Warner Brothers Acquisition
  2. Merger Insights:
  3. David Ellison's acquisition of Warner Brothers Discovery for $111 billion was evaluated, highlighting the heavy debt involved.
  4. Discussion on how this merger might affect Netflix, given the competitive nature of streaming.
  5. Concerns about the potential for massive debt leading to strategic shifts in content licensing.
  1. Implications of the Billionaire Tax
  2. National Wealth Tax Proposal:
  3. Bernie Sanders and Ro Khanna are pushing for a national wealth tax on billionaires, which could have significant financial implications.
  4. Highlighted the potential for wealth flight as billionaires might relocate to avoid taxes.
  5. Discussion on the challenges and criticisms surrounding the implementation of such taxes, including past failures in similar contexts.
  1. Mark Zuckerberg's Real Estate Investment
  2. Miami Mansion Purchase:
  3. Zuckerberg purchased a mansion for $170 million, influenced by California's proposed wealth tax.
  4. The mansion is designed with extravagant features, including a gym, hair salon, and library.
  1. Corporate Culture and Public Perception
  2. Fast Food CEO Performance:
  3. A viral clip of McDonald's CEO showing reluctance to eat his own product sparked discussions about corporate authenticity and public image.
  4. Comparisons made with the Burger King CEO's more confident presentation style.
  1. Technology and AI Developments
  2. Cursor AI:
  3. Reports on Cursor AI's impressive annual revenue growth and its implications for AI adoption in businesses.
  4. Discussion on the barriers to wider AI integration in corporate workflows.
  1. Final Remarks
  2. Closing Thoughts: The hosts wrapped up the episode, reflecting on the discussed topics and encouraging listeners to tune in for future episodes.

Key Takeaways

  • Netflix's Evolution: A shift from skepticism to engagement with traditional media indicates a broader strategy adjustment in response to changing market dynamics.
  • Financial Strategies: The heavy debt associated with mergers raises questions about future content availability and competitive positioning in the streaming landscape.
  • Billionaire Tax Implications: The proposed tax may lead to significant economic shifts, particularly regarding investment and wealth retention among the ultra-wealthy.
  • Corporate Image: How executives present themselves impacts public perception, and authenticity plays a crucial role in consumer trust.
  • AI Integration: The conversations around AI adoption highlight the importance of practical implementation over theoretical advancements.

Conclusion This episode of TBPN provided invaluable insights into the intersection of technology, corporate strategy, and economic policy, showcasing how these elements influence the entertainment and media landscape. The discussions were rich with analysis, making it a must-listen for anyone interested in the future of tech and entertainment.

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The Evolution of Film and Netflix's Strategy

0:45 to 3:00

Exploring how the film industry has evolved and Netflix's changing stance on movie theaters.

“He hasn't been super rude or anything But he's been like it's not really key to our strategy Then as soon as he was in the deal for Warner Brothers.”

Ted Sarandos and Netflix's Changing Narrative

3:00 to 5:00

Discussion on Ted Sarandos' comments about theaters and Netflix's stock performance driven by recent actions.

“So just to recap and set the table, David Ellison, who is the chairman and the CEO of Paramount Skydance agreed to raise his offer for Warner Brothers Discovery to$31 a share.”

Content Licensing and Market Dynamics

5:00 to 8:00

Insights into content licensing deals and how market dynamics affect Netflix's offerings.

“And also, Netflix is in a particularly interesting financial position.”

The Financial Landscape of Paramount and Warner Bros

8:00 to 11:00

An analysis of Paramount's debt situation and its implications for future content deals.

“content is available, and pretty much everything will be non-exclusive.”

Intellectual Property and the Future of Media

11:00 to 14:01

Exploring the value of intellectual property and how it shapes the future of the media industry.

“And I think that's true, and I believe both of these.”

Exploring Microwave Radiation and Havana Syndrome

14:01 to 14:49

Learn about a scientist's controversial self-experiment and its implications.

“working in strict secrecy, a government scientist in Norway built a machine capable of emitting powerful pulses of microwave energy.”

Creative Takes on Protein Bars

14:49 to 15:10

Discover the fun side of protein bars named after people and their trends.

“Thomas Maxwell says we have to stop this.”

Cursor's Revenue Growth and AI Deployment Challenges

15:10 to 18:16

Examine the rapid growth of Cursor and the complexities of AI adoption in companies.

“They had heard the FUD on the timeline around Cursor.”

Mark Zuckerberg's $170 Million Mansion Purchase

18:16 to 19:08

Unpack the implications of Zuckerberg's real estate investment in Florida.

“Yeah, and so, yeah, I mean, I think there's just something about, it goes back to diffusion.”

Details of Zuckerberg's New Mansion

19:08 to 21:36

Get insights into the luxurious features of Zuckerberg's Miami mansion.

“But there is a little bit of a black belt here.”
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National Wealth Tax Proposals

21:36 to 23:00

Discuss Bernie Sanders' proposal for a national wealth tax on billionaires.

“Maybe he'll have long, flowing locks like Fabio.”

Critiques and Consequences of Wealth Taxes

23:00 to 25:05

Examine the potential fallout from wealth taxes and their effects on the economy.

“Bernie Sanders is proposing bringing it to the United States broadly at the federal level.”

Innovations in Camper Van Design

25:05 to 26:30

Explore unique designs in camper vans and their implications for outdoor adventures.

“If you asked me where the market was and I hadn't looked, what is this from?”

Trading Luxury Watches and Market Neutral Strategies

26:30 to 28:00

Learn about new ways to trade luxury watches while maintaining market neutrality.

“Introducing Logan's, introducing Gemini 3.1 Flashlight, a huge step forward on the boundary of intelligence, beating 2.5 Flash on many tasks.”

Discussion on Bizarre Trading Practices

28:00 to 28:22

Exploring the complexities of buying and trading watches.

“Yeah, I saw somebody pushing back and being like, oh, you can, this is silly.”

McDonald's CEO's Viral Moment

28:22 to 29:32

Analyzing McDonald's CEO Chris Kempinski's awkward burger tasting on video.

“We never watched this all the way through.”

Fast Food Competitive Bites

29:32 to 30:35

Comparing the burger tasting performances of McDonald's and Burger King's CEOs.

“If you just start housing that thing, there's going to be a whole different set of backlash.”

Defending McDonald's: A CEO's Response

30:35 to 31:14

Discussing Chris Kempinski's defense of his eating habits and McDonald's quality.

“I saw another video of Chris, the McDonald's CEO, coming out on his personal Instagram, saying he eats, he wanted to clarify that he does eat McDonald's three or four times a week, he said.”
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0:02John Coogan:Film is the process of capturing images digitally or using celluloid. Do you know that celluloid? No. This is right, right? The filmmakers in the back know. So you used to need a specific chemical process. You'd probably be very hands-off on this process. But you used to create a strip of film, the thin, clear, and you put some chemicals on it. And then when light hits it, if a lot of light hits it, it makes it black. And then that's the negative. And then they flip that around by shining light through it to then expose the final picture. And then you get a beautiful movie that you get to watch at the cinema.

0:40John Coogan:Interesting to know how Netflix will change their tune on theaters. So Ted Sarandos has been basically trash talking movie theaters for a long time being like Netflix is the future Tech is the future. He hasn't been super rude or anything But he's been like it's not really key to our strategy Then as soon as he was in the deal for Warner Brothers. He was like yeah, the theater is amazing. It's not going anywhere

1:01Jordi Hays:Netflix is up 22 %

1:03John Coogan:Oh, yeah, the stock the shareholders hated the idea they hated the idea

1:08Jordi Hays:loves yeah marketing your enemy to Overpay for a handful a basket of legacy assets

1:14John Coogan:Yeah, there is another thesis on why Netflix stock has mooned. And it's mostly around this concept that Ted Sarandos just stunned in a pair of jeans at the SAG Awards. So look at this. I mean, you see this. How can you not want to buy the stock? This is not financial advice, but you see a guy pull up in a fit like that. You're like, this is going to moon. I got to get in. I'm going turbo long. I'm top blasting. You're buying the dip.

1:39Jordi Hays:Top blasting.

1:40John Coogan:You're top-lasting and you're buying the dip when you see a man pull up in$2.8 billion jeans because that's the amount of money that Netflix got wired because of this deal. That was the breakup fee. There's a ton of debt going into this deal. Will I be able to watch The Sopranos on Netflix? Will I be able to watch The Dark Knight on Netflix? It's a complicated question because content licensing deals are not one-size-fits-all. They're subject to windowing and certain markets. So if Netflix has really high penetration in Germany and HBO doesn't, it might make sense to license it there but not elsewhere.

2:17John Coogan:But I just want to know broadly, like, what do we expect from Paramount, Skydance, Warner Brothers, Discovery, CBS, CNN? TNT. I think they have Shark Week now, right, that's in Discovery. They got the Food Network, HGTV. You can watch the Property Brothers maybe on Netflix one day. Who knows? But this is like the most extreme scenario. We talked about a post where someone was like, oh, like, you know, masterful 3D chess. They got, Netflix got Paramount to overpay for this. And now they're gonna be so indebted because the deal got so big that they're just gonna have to come to us and license 100 % of the catalog on day one.

2:56John Coogan:I don't know if that's true, so I wanted to dig into it. Let's talk about it. So just to recap and set the table, David Ellison, who is the chairman and the CEO of Paramount Skydance agreed to raise his offer for Warner Brothers Discovery to$31 a share. A lot of people, myself somewhat included, thought that Netflix was at least going to counter a little bit, but they folded immediately. So the co-CEOs, Ted Sarandos and Greg Peters, they didn't counter, and they said, you got it? Wire us the 2.8B. And they did. So the result is that David Ellison is handing over$111 billion in exchange for Warner Brothers, HBO Max, CNN, and the other cable networks.

3:33John Coogan:There was this whole political angle in DC about how interested would Trump be in the deal? And apparently, as soon as he found out that Netflix was not interested in the cable TV assets, he became less interested in the deal. Because I think he watches a lot of news, but he probably doesn't watch a lot of Batman reboots and doesn't really care what happens there. And so, you know, it's just like a different thing. It's like, you know, he's not turning on the latest DC cinematic universe film and be like, they're taking shots at me. But if he turns on CNN and they're taking shots at him, he's like, I care about that, right?

4:03John Coogan:So in terms of the financial situation, they're levering up. They took our advice when we started the show. We told everyone rule number one is lever up. And they did. So Paramount is already levered. 10 billion. To the guild. Yeah, to the guilds. 10 billion of net debt. It's like 13 billion, but they have 3 billion in cash. So 10 billion in net debt, 3 billion of adjusted EBITDA with which to service that debt. reasonable, but still pretty high leverage, 3x. Paramount will be adding$60 billion of debt. So all combined, the company will have something like$70 billion of net debt,$79 billion of total debt, with roughly$12 billion of adjusted EBITDA.

4:42John Coogan:When you're operating north of 6x leverage, that leads to different decision-making. Higher discount rates, higher interest rates, it can shift the focus to near-term cash. So Netflix is a logical counterparty here, because it can pay, it has the cash, it has a lot of cash flow, to pay for global rights at scale, and has a long history of paying top dollar to deploy capital to known franchises. And also, Netflix is in a particularly interesting financial position. So they've been an incredible case study for operating leverage, a true overnight success, something like 20 years grinding up the subscribers, grinding up the revenue, investing more and more in content.

5:23John Coogan:And if we can pull up the chart, you will see the small bars, the red bars are the revenue and the little dots that have the numbers on them, which you can't really see, show how much they're investing in content. And so for a long time, for something like almost from 2002 to 2018, so 16 years, Netflix was like, we made a hundred million, Let's make$100 million worth of content. Let's buy$100 million worth of content. And then they were like, wait, we made a billion dollars? You're never gonna guess what we're gonna spend on content. Exactly$1 billion. And then they were like, okay, we made$10 billion.

6:02John Coogan:This is gonna shock you, but we're spending$10 billion on content. And so they would just spend exactly what they made on content. But that changed. That changed in 2019, 2020, COVID. The amount of subscribers spiked, the amount of revenue spiked. Then they launched the ad model. Took them a while to figure that out. but eventually worked. And the business kept growing, the top line kept growing, but they ran out of stuff to buy. They ran out of stuff to make, and even though they were paying top dollar for all these different assets, they sort of held their content budget flat, their revenue went up, and that's of course operating leverage.

6:36John Coogan:So profits to pay for Warner Brothers Discovery assets, potentially. And so they have the money to spend, but also they're direct competitors in streaming with PowerMount Plus and HBO Max. And so there's a question about how friendly will they be? You know, if you license all the good HBO stuff, people will unsubscribe from HBO.

6:56Jordi Hays:Yeah, or Paramount. Or Paramount.

6:58John Coogan:Yeah, exactly.

6:59Jordi Hays:It just makes the Paramount subscription offering less competitive.

7:03John Coogan:Totally, totally. There's potentially this idea that regulators might attach a condition to the deal, or at least signal or put pressure that the combined entity should maintain its tradition of licensing and selling content.

7:16Jordi Hays:Yeah, Lachlan yesterday said, this is Fox CEO Lachlan Murdoch, expects that regulators will impose a third-party content licensing condition on Paramount and Warner Brothers Discovery's$110 billion merger. He said, we wish them the best of luck. We've seen this regardless of whether it was Netflix acquiring Warner Brothers Discovery or Paramount acquiring Warner Brothers Discovery. There will be conditions put on this transaction, which would require a producer of that size to continue to sell their content to third-party platforms. platforms. This was yesterday.

7:47John Coogan:I ballparked it at like maybe 70 % chance that in the next two years, there's some sort of meaningful content licensing deal between Paramount, Warner Brothers Discovery, and Netflix. But I do think that there will be limited windows, some selection in markets where content is available, and pretty much everything will be non-exclusive. So the real key brand assets like the Sopranos and the DC Universe properties, those are much less likely to be licensed and there's basically no world where Netflix gets the first streaming rights to like tentpoles you want to maintain those you want to give the super fans a reason to stay subscribed to begin a subscription on your now to streaming platforms there is a lot of potential upside for the Ellison Empire I think of this like buying a house and then getting a roommate like you you're

8:34Jordi Hays:levered up you got a crazy mortgage right you you buy a live in large but

8:41John Coogan:But you got a roommate.

8:42Jordi Hays:Yeah.

8:43John Coogan:And the roommate's Netflix and they're paying the rent to you. You pay the mortgage.

8:46Jordi Hays:And you kind of hate your roommate.

8:47John Coogan:You kind of hate your roommate, but - But it makes sense economically. You're long the real estate market. And then as you get promotions, as you get more cash flow, as you get more adjusted EBITDA, you can pay your mortgage. And as you pay your mortgage down, you wind up with a really cool asset, which is this nice house that actually has the extra bedroom.

9:05Jordi Hays:They're like, look, we had a good run. I really love the way you would put dishes in the sink and not do them. I really love the way you would watch movies loud into the night and yell, but I think it's time.

9:16John Coogan:It's time for you to move out and I'm going to take the mortgage myself. I'm good for the full bill every month. I'm good. But there are a lot of similarities, right? Because what are you getting with Warner Brothers? You're getting a whole library of IP that's very valuable, potentially for like 100 years. And so if you believe that intellectual property will have a very, very long lifetime, lifespan, and it's incredibly valuable. but you have to finance it with debt. You have to work really hard to pay the bills in the short term. You could wind up with a really great asset, even if you have that roommate for the short term.

9:46John Coogan:The other interesting question was, what does this reveal about the Ellison family's worldview for the future? On the one end of the spectrum, you have Larry Ellison, who seems incredibly AGI-pilled. He's going crazy into AI data centers. You disagree with this?

10:02Jordi Hays:Well, I think, remember, I think we did like the chart of who's the most AGI-pilled. He needs AGI versus AGI-pilled. So he needs AGI, but he's not AGI-pilled.

10:10John Coogan:Why is he not AGI-pilled? Oh, just because of his rhetoric? He just doesn't do that many podcasts. Get him on Dwarakash. We'll see what he says. Maybe his timeline's like ASI next month, you know? Who knows? He's like, you need to sit down your family today.

10:23Jordi Hays:Funding data center is obviously very AGI-pilled.

10:24John Coogan:Does he have a Mac Mini? That's the real question. Funding data centers is generally aligned with a future where AI is an important technology.

10:31Jordi Hays:Yeah, levering up massively, right? Yes, levering up over the data. He believes that AI is going to be big, right?

10:34John Coogan:Yes, yeah, exactly. Exactly. He believes AI is going to be big, but then he also believes, or in concert with David, his son, believes that AI will not destroy legacy Hollywood assets. No matter how many dollars you have, no matter how much compute you have, no matter how many generations you can use, the latest video model, you will not just be able to create a superhero that kids will dress up as at Halloween. And I think that's true, and I believe both of these. You don't? You're going to be dressing up as Slotman next week? slot man next uh halloween slot man you're gonna be like oh you don't know this superhero that i prompted myself and and no one knows but me it's a it's a highly don't you know the the internet's

11:17Jordi Hays:highly personalized now but you can dress up as like uh a superhero who has like these black ears

11:23John Coogan:and like looks very similar to batman but it's not not the non-ip infringing batman i think the

11:29Jordi Hays:Literally describing Slotman.

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11:31John Coogan:Yeah, Slotman. You're going to dress up as the knockoff Slotman. So maybe that's not your worldview, Tyler, but it's clearly the worldview of the Ellison family because they believe in this barbell effect.

11:41Jordi Hays:You know, another way to look at it is like you could get this hyper-personalization, but it could be around existing IP. So you get to watch a personalized version of Batman content that's targeted just for you individually, but the kids are still dressing up as Batman.

11:57John Coogan:And we've already seen a glimpse of this with video games. There are video games that leverage existing intellectual property, but allow you to customize your character in some way. Put more skill points into intelligence and cast spells versus strength and use a sword, right? Like, you can have your own experience if you play, even like the Arkham Batman series, it's pretty linear, but you can play it more aggressively. You can play it more stealthily. and that allows you to experience something that is unifying and we can discuss, okay you played the same game as me, you understand the same character as me, but we had a different experience.

12:35John Coogan:I think AI accelerates that and makes it more valuable, not less. This is the ninth or tenth time that Warner Brothers has changed hands since it became an independent movie studio in 1923. There's some of those acquisitions that have been like divestitures or reorganizations within other companies. But I do think that David Ellison is going to go the long distance with this. I think with a little careful financial management and probably a few content licensing deals, this might be the last one. He's been working in Hollywood since he was a kid and has been very dedicated to this particular industry for a very long time.

13:14John Coogan:And so I don't think he's going anywhere.

13:17Jordi Hays:And if you are inspired by the whole netflix warner brothers saga you should head over to the goodwill in downtown brooklyn tom from vanity fair says for 14.99 you can zaslov max this spring they're selling a nice port authority puffer vest from warner brothers discovery that is a good pickup zaslov is a deals guy hall of famer for sure according to the washington post there was a researcher skeptical of Havana syndrome. So he tested a secret weapon on himself. In 2024, a Norwegian researcher, skeptical that pulsed energy weapons could do damage to human brains, built a device and tested it on himself.

13:57Jordi Hays:It didn't go well. Built it, tested it.

13:59John Coogan:Working in secrecy, working in strict secrecy, a government scientist in Norway built a machine capable of emitting powerful pulses of microwave energy. And in an effort to prove such devices are harmless to humans, in 2024, he tested it on himself. He suffered neurological symptoms similar to those of Favanna syndrome. The unexplained malady that has struck hundreds of US spies and diplomats around the world.

14:25Jordi Hays:We don't know how to make scientists like this anymore. Glad they're still out there.

14:29John Coogan:It's extremely bullish for the tinfoil hat industry. Because I believe that the actual underlying basis for the idea of a tinfoil hat, of course we use it somewhat sarcastically here when we're discussing hypotheticals conspiracy theories, but the tinfoil hat is supposed to eliminate microwave radiation and various EMF pulses. And so if you're worried about getting Havana syndrome, maybe pick up an EMF proof tinfoil hat. Thomas Maxwell says we have to stop this.

14:56Jordi Hays:I'm not eating a, quote, Jacob. Eat a Jacob. I haven't seen this one before. It's 20 grams of grass fed protein, no seed oils, nothing artificial, sweetened with organic honey. Definitely resonated. 24 ,000 people agree. Tyler, you should do a taste test of all the different protein bars named after just regular dudes. David Barr, the Jacob Barr. There's probably more. You got to get on it.

15:21John Coogan:Lucy, named after a person. It was a whole trend for a while.

15:25Jordi Hays:Cursor, would like a word. Yeah. This was staggering. This was great. Crazy. They came out yesterday. They had heard the FUD on the timeline around Cursor. They came out yesterday and Bloomberg got some of their data. Their annual revenue topped$2 billion in February, according to a source, a figure that underscores the fast growth of the coding assistant. Sasha summed it up well. He said, Cursor sees the timeline turning against them. Quietly give Bloomberg a$2 billion ARR press release. No post from the company where founders haters squash through comms masterclass. Michael Truel actually did come out this morning and says, we believe Cursor discovered a novel solution to problem six of the first proof challenge, a set of math research problems that approximate the work of Stanford, MIT, Berkeley.

16:18Jordi Hays:Cursor's solution yields stronger results than the official human-written solution. Notably, we used the same harness that we built a browser from scratch a few weeks ago. It ran fully autonomously without nudging or hints for four days. This suggests that our technique for scaling agent coordination might generalize beyond coding. very very cool to see the progress from them and clearly uh doing something right in uh in the enterprise right just because like everything that you see on the timeline is like totally so many

16:48John Coogan:so many enthusiasts one of my buddies is uh kyle russell i worked with him like a decade ago he's at a company called valon um and he posted so uh valon uh they make sass for mortgage services He says it's very boring, but we're basically getting them all to flip from legacy software and a rate limited by biz ops people being able to onboard them. So we're going to try instead to think about it in terms of what tokens do we need to extract from the org in order to deploy fast. So he's in this like AI deployment lead role. And he went, I think, pretty viral saying this morning, one person on his team said, hey, can you unsub me from cursor?

17:28John Coogan:And somebody says done. And then a bunch of people said same, same. Like, I don't need it. I'm like, like, I'm happy with another program. And Kyle said, today, we announced we're removing 90 cursor seats, because they haven't had any use in two weeks. And it is like, it's flipped from like the most cutting edge thing to like, it's clearly very sticky, because you see, you see the ARR numbers that this like ultra frontier, coolest, hottest thing is getting some like FUD. And then Sasha broke this down where he was like, the timelines turning, turning against them. So you have to provide some evidence that you're not cooked because the timeline is very much like, oh, well, you're not the hottest thing anymore.

18:08John Coogan:You're not the coolest little thing for the people that are on the most frontier.

18:12Jordi Hays:Up from one billion in Q4, which is just insane.

18:16John Coogan:Yeah, and so, yeah, I mean, I think there's just something about, it goes back to diffusion. I was debating this with Tyler last night about how much of AI adoption is just actually getting the forward deployed engineer in, actually getting people to change their workflows, onboarding. There are certain people that will just bounce from the most frontier thing. Oh, this model is better. I'm on Codex. I'm on Claude. I'm on Codex. I'm on Claude. Back and forth. But for a lot of companies, they need a little bit more handholding. And so there's a whole massive chunk of the economy that can be transformed by developing great products and then actually getting them in the hands of businesses.

18:53John Coogan:Well, in some good news, Mark Zuckerberg has purchased a mansion in Miami for$170 million. This was such big news that we had to pull it forward from the mansion section on Friday to talk about today. But there is a little bit of a black belt here. We can go into it.

19:12Jordi Hays:So, of course, Mark got this because of California's wealth tax, which if it goes through, he would still be subject to at least a one-time payment, which would get litigated, of course. What we need now is a picture of him in his backyard recreating the Ben Affleck smoking meme. Wait, why? Because there's this new national wealth tax that Ro Khanna and Bernie Sanders are pushing. So he's like, he just moved, he just got this new place across the country, probably overpaid to a degree. People are just gonna be like,

19:47John Coogan:actually I live in international waters full time. I don't live in America, I don't live in any country actually. I live in space. I live on the International Space Station or something. 170 million dollars sounds staggering. by a 5 % tax on Mark Zuckerberg's wealth over$11 billion. That should have been his shopping budget because in dude math, if you save money, you just have a free license to spend it. So you're like, by moving to Florida, I'm effectively saving myself$11 billion. I can spend that, right? Isn't that how that works? Exactly. Meta Chief Executive Mark Zuckerberg and his wife Priscilla Chan have paid$170 million for an under construction mansion on Miami sought after Indian Creek Island.

20:26John Coogan:The deal closed Monday. The purchase set a record in one of the country's most expensive to date. The current US record is held by billionaire Ken Griffin. He spent$238 million for an apartment. That is a crazy amount of money for an apartment, but I guess it's in a good building.

20:43Jordi Hays:This is a lot of apartments.

20:44John Coogan:The Florida record was set last year when a waterfront compound in Naples traded for 225 million. I feel like this isn't counting Ken Griffin's compound that he's building, because he's building.

20:54Jordi Hays:Yeah, because it's multiple properties.

20:55John Coogan:He's bought multiple properties.

20:56Jordi Hays:Okay, here's where it gets crazy. Tell me. Sellers are Dr. Aaron Rollins, a cosmetic surgeon to the star, and his wife, real estate agent, Maureen Rollins. The Rollinses paid more than$30 million for the roughly two-acre site in 2020. Wow.

21:10John Coogan:Flipping.

21:11Jordi Hays:Not bad.

21:11John Coogan:I mean, real estate agent, don't want to go up against them. They know what they're doing.

21:14Jordi Hays:Plans called for a nine-bedroom home measuring about 30 ,000 square feet with a dock and a swimming pool.

21:19John Coogan:Yeah.

21:19Jordi Hays:Amenities were to include gym, hair salon, and massage room, as well as a 1 ,500-gallon aquarium and library with a secret passageway.

21:27John Coogan:Zuck does need a hair salon in his house because he's always changing his hairstyle. Sometimes he's got the Caesar going. Sometimes he's got the Fro going. He's got the Gen Z. This is elite for him. Who knows what will go next? Maybe he'll have long, flowing locks like Fabio. Credit where credit is due. China really nailed the Bonnevillean aesthetic with their Antarctic research base. Qin Ling? Qin Ling?

21:48Jordi Hays:Okay, these are just renders, though, correct? These are renders.

21:50John Coogan:This is what they're thinking about building.

21:52Jordi Hays:Because if it was real, I'd be telling Tyler to get a boat immediately. Tyler was in Arizona over the weekend and sent us a very cool picture of him out at TSMC.

22:04John Coogan:Yeah, give us a review. Did you feel the power? Did it feel like visiting Arrakis?

22:08Jordi Hays:Yeah, it was like 91 degrees, extremely hot. It was massive, massive facility. They're still building. like there's like there were two kind of main sections i couldn't actually tell like what parts they were there were signs there were a bunch of fabs i think i took a picture next to like fab 21 or something wow um but there's like there's so much building going on and it's just like it's basically north of phoenix yeah and so there's like 10 mile radius where it's just like basically just empty land they're flattening the desert whoa but yeah very very cool gift shop no they didn't let us in there's a like a ton of security around at every gate i i wanted to like go in and like take a tour or something.

22:46John Coogan:I want to get a wafer that didn't make it through quality control and get some of the chip CEOs to sign up. Moving on, the billionaire tax has gone national. Bernie Sanders is proposing bringing it to the United States broadly at the federal level. Bad news for everyone who migrated to Miami or Florida because it is is going to follow you wherever you go. Ro Khanna and Bernie Sanders are proposing a national wealth tax on billionaires going even further than California. They want 5 % unrealized wealth tax to be annual.

23:22Jordi Hays:Every year.

23:23John Coogan:Every year. That would be a serious capitalization. And I've seen some people running the numbers on like,

23:28Jordi Hays:oh, if this tax had been in place since 1999, Jeff Bezos would still be worth$61 billion and he could still afford his$500 million mega yacht, just like not actually like processing all the negative externalities of something like this.

23:45John Coogan:So yeah, I just I just I would be like a core like a PE backed like shell pretty quickly because you lose control. Right.

23:51Jordi Hays:Yeah. That or Amazon never even gets the level of investment that it got because of capital flight. I would be so much more sympathetic to Ro Khanna and Bernie Sanders on this if they had like here's five case studies where wealth taxes worked. worked. And like, they can't come up with a single one. And so it just feels like...

24:14John Coogan:50 % over 10 years. That is a lot. But the implementation of this tax would ultimately create wealth flights, as Chris withins. The wealthy are wealthy because they fight to preserve their wealth. So in year one, the base is already decimated. Then every single year afterwards, the remaining billionaires leave or hide their assets. Meanwhile, the markets are all declining all this time because they see that America has been infiltrated by wealth destroying communists. Chris is not a fan.

24:40Jordi Hays:There's something like$8 trillion of billionaire wealth and$160 to$170 of middle class wealth. So that is the real prize pool. And again, hopefully our lawmakers and voters process how ridiculous this is and reject

25:02John Coogan:it. and write the balance sheet of the US government.

25:05Jordi Hays:The market is only down 0.08 % year to date. Things must be really calm, right? This is actually crazy.

25:11John Coogan:If you asked me where the market was and I hadn't looked, what is this from? What movie is this? Is this AI or something? This is a crazy scene. I really like this. This is a good meme template. I haven't used this before. Is it from Maze Runner? Oh, maybe Maze Runner. I don't know.

25:28Jordi Hays:Doomer says the past looks more like the future than the present does. Let's pull up. What is this? PM's Phoenix, an expandable van you can build for$2 ,000. This is sick.

25:42John Coogan:Most campers and vans these days that are roomy enough to live in are too large for comfortable driving. Conversely, the compact, fun, drivable rigs are usually too small to live in. And no matter what its size, the seller will probably want all the money you have now, plus most of what you'll make in the next five years. This is a good copy.

26:00Jordi Hays:So this was in Popular Mechanics in 1978.

26:05John Coogan:This is a good daily. Someone should pick this up.

26:07Jordi Hays:Built on a Volkswagen minibus chassis.

26:09John Coogan:I like that they restyled the front cab as well. A camper back end looks pretty similar. But it still feels odd to take an electric vehicle into the wilderness. I don't know why, because it's not like you're bringing a bunch of, not like there's a gas station out in the middle of nowhere. but this would give me range anxiety, even though I think that's deeply fake at this point.

26:33Jordi Hays:New model alert.

26:34John Coogan:New model alert. What we got?

26:36Jordi Hays:Introducing Logan's, introducing Gemini 3.1 Flashlight, a huge step forward on the boundary of intelligence, beating 2.5 Flash on many tasks. Tyler, you should try to do a speed check. OpenAI also came out this morning with 5.3 Instant. Okay. Touting increased accuracy.

26:59John Coogan:Is this in ChatGPT? Because I feel like I've had 5.3 in Codex, but not in... Oh, I got, yeah, I have 5.3 instant in ChatGPT.com now. Interesting.

27:11Jordi Hays:I do not yet. Very cool. Calci partnered with Bezel. Oh, yeah. This is a good collab. To allow people to trade price movements of iconic watches. So we can pull up this video. this basically allows you to trade on what the on the prices of rolexes for the month month of march basically is price going to move up or down so quade over at bezel has been telling us about

27:38John Coogan:this one so you could you could in theory buy a watch on bezel and then take out a short position on kalshi and have a market neutral submariner or something right because if the price goes up you own the watch. It's not just any sub.

27:52Jordi Hays:It's a market neutral sub.

27:54John Coogan:It's market neutral. Because if the market crashes, you make money on Calci, but you lost money on the watch and you're neutral. So you can hedge yourself now. That's very bizarre. Yeah, I saw somebody pushing

28:04Jordi Hays:back and being like, oh, you can, this is silly. You could just buy the watches and actually trade them. But obviously it's quite a bit more complicated.

28:14John Coogan:Well, you can't sell one that you don't have. Now you can short watches. I want to talk about fast food CEOs. Yeah,

28:19Jordi Hays:Let's pull up this video of McDonald's CEO.

28:22John Coogan:We never watched this all the way through. This is McDonald's CEO, Chris Kempenski. He went viral after seeming reluctant to eat his own burgers. He takes a tiny bite, looks uncomfortable, and calls the food product. That's the size of it. With, you've heard about it. The big arch. Here it is, the big arch. This is pretty good. This is something that we have tested already. On humans. Germany, Canada. On animals. I love this product. It is so good. I'm going to do a tasting right now, but I'm going to eat this for my lunch, just so you know. So here we go. First, holy cow. If I can survive a single meal, it's good enough for you.

28:58John Coogan:We've got a very unique kind of sesame poppy sort of bun on it. This isn't that bad of a public presentation, in my opinion. We've got two quarter pound patties, delicious Big Arch sauce. It's probably his first TikTok, but he's doing okay. Oh, there's so much going on with this. First of all, let's try to get this thing. I don't even know how to attack it. Got so much to it. There's also some crispy onions on here as well. I see those kind of coming out. He's stoked. All right. I met the CEO of McDonald's, the previous CEO, at South by Southwest in 2013. That is so good. That's a big bite for a big art.

29:35John Coogan:That's a huge burger. It's distinctively McDonald's. Undeniably not that big of a bite. Yeah, not that big of a bite.

29:42Jordi Hays:He just kind of.

29:43John Coogan:But eating on camera is so hard. If you just start housing that thing, there's going to be a whole different set of backlash. It definitely looked like his first ever bite of a burger. Yeah. It was not a strong performance. Lulu said lay up opportunity for the number two ranked fast food chain CEO to film a brutal. And I think somebody did.

30:03Jordi Hays:We can pull up another video here.

30:05John Coogan:Someone did it. There's someone saying Japanese manga writer trying to write Americans.

30:11Jordi Hays:the CEO would perhaps compete over who would take the manliest bite of a burger. No, that's ridiculous. Surely America cannot be like that. Okay, but watch this. Burger King? Oh, that's a real bite. That's a real bite. Yeah.

30:25John Coogan:I'm a Burger King guy now. He won me over very, very well. This guy seems like he can flip burgers. He can take bites of burgers.

30:35Jordi Hays:I saw another video of Chris, the McDonald's CEO, coming out on his personal Instagram, saying he eats, he wanted to clarify that he does eat McDonald's three or four times a week, he said. So he is defending his honor.

30:47John Coogan:McDonald's is great.

30:48Jordi Hays:I love this product. I love this product. That's what every chef says after they bring out a meal. They say, I love this product. I think you will, too.

30:59John Coogan:He's a business guy. I don't have a problem with that. Refer to it as product. Go off. I stand by it. I think it's great.

31:06Jordi Hays:Thank you for being with us. We will be back tomorrow.

31:10John Coogan:11 a.m.

31:11Jordi Hays:I cannot wait. I cannot wait.

31:12John Coogan:See you.

31:13Jordi Hays:Do it. Goodbye.

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