Can Ozempic and GLP-1’s Help Treat Endometriosis

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0:43Find Oli's sleep solutions for the whole family at Oli.com. That's O-L-L-Y dot com. GLP-1 medications may be doing something far bigger than helping people lose weight. And if you have endometriosis, what I'm about to share might completely change how you think about inflammation, fibrosis and adhesions, pain, and even the long-term chronic disease risk that comes with having this disease. Because here is the shocking truth. Women with endometriosis have a higher risk of cardiovascular disease. Some research suggests 40 to 60 % higher. So I want you to let that sink in for a minute because this fact alone makes it super clear that this is not just a period problem, not just a painful period, and not just pelvic pain.

1:33This is a full-body inflammatory disease that leads to further chronic disease. So today, we're breaking down whether GLP-1 medications actually help support women with endometriosis, what the science says, and what it absolutely does not yet prove. And stay with me until the end because I'm going to break down which GLP-1s are typically used in this scenario. And I want you to understand as we dive into this that the answer is not as simple as TikTok wants you to believe. Now, if you're new here, hi, I'm Dr. Jolene Brighton. I'm board certified in naturopathic endocrinology. I'm a nutrition scientist.

2:16I'm the author of several books, and I have endometriosis and adenomyosis. And if you can take a quick second, subscribe, share, comment. This helps this podcast get out to the people who need it. It helps the show thrive. So thank you so much. And let's not hold this up. Let's get into it. So first, let's get one thing straight. No, we do not currently have human clinical trials showing GLP-1 medications treat endometriosis. And this matters. We need to be clear about what the science we do have and don't have at this current moment. Now, what we do have is research showing possible mechanisms that make this one of the most fascinating areas of women's health right now and a promising treatment in helping manage endometriosis.

3:04So no, we don't have treatment guidelines for endometriosis. We don't have clinical trials for endometriosis. But what we do have is a whole lot of women using GLP-1s and saying, this has helped my endometriosis symptoms. And that's important to listen to. When we listened to early on the patients who said GLP-1s helped my autoimmunity, we then got research to follow up and say, how? What's going on? Let's understand this more. And I think that's important because then we actually got research around it. So that's where we're at with endometriosis. Now, if you understand endometriosis, then you know there is immune dysfunction, dysregulation, there's chronic inflammation, there's histamine issues, there's fibrosis and adhesions, there is abnormal tissue surviving and thriving because it ninks its own local estrogen, it produces inflammatory cytokines, chemical messengers of the immune system, There's altered pain signaling.

4:01There's metabolic disruption. And so this is a reason why GLP-1s have become a very interesting part of the conversation. And before I tell you the first way that they might help, I need you to understand something that most people are never told. And that is endometriosis lesions behave in a way that are far more biologically active than most people realize. They are recruiting immune cells. They create their own inflammatory environment. In fact, as Dr. Ana Sierra just shared with a live Q &A today, the inflammation environment is usually three centimeters or more outside of the lesion. They also drive scar tissue formation.

4:45And that, I think, is really important to understand as we go into the first mechanism. Now, something we have come to understand in the research that was kind of shocking was that a study showed people with endometriosis have lower GLP-1 levels in their peritoneal fluid. That means right in the environment surrounding where most lesions are found, where most inflammation is happening and more immune activity is upregulated, GLP-1 signaling may already be altered in endometriosis patients. This is huge because GLP-1s are not just about blood sugar and weight loss. GLP-1 has a profound effect on inflammatory pathways.

5:27Now, I want to give you a tip on reducing inflammatory signaling, but let's talk about why GLP-1's inflammation matters in the context of endometriosis. Endometriosis isn't simply just some rogue tissue growing outside of the uterus and causing you to have period pain. It is immune-amplified inflammatory tissue. And what that means is macrophages, cytokines, prostaglandins, mast cells, immune messengers, they keep the disease process active. Highly inflammatory tissue and GLP-1 receptor agonists have been shown in other research to reduce inflammatory signaling and modulate immune pathways. So what does that mean in plain English for you?

6:11GLP-1s may help calm down the inflammatory fire. Now, what if you don't want a GLP-1? And what if you want to go about this a natural way? I want you to understand that the GLP-1 pathway on inflammation, those same pathways are influenced by blood sugar stability in itself. Managing your blood sugar has a tremendous impact on your endometriosis inflammation, as does getting good sleep. Reducing visceral fat. I have episodes I will link at drbrighton.com in the show notes all about how to reduce visceral fat and why you should care about it. increasing your omega-3 fatty acids dietarily, maybe with supplements, polyphenols, and polyphenols and how they affect gut health, but gut health overall can help influence and modulate inflammation, which is why we go so much deeper on this inside the endometriosis reset because medications are never the whole story.

7:07And we have to recognize that GOP-1s for endometriosis aren't likely going to be covered by insurance and that they're pricey. These are expensive drugs. All right, let's talk about another mechanism by which GLP-1s may be helping endometriosis. And this one honestly made me stop and reread the literature because it is, frankly, life-changing if it works for all endo patients. Now, GLP-1s may influence fibrosis and scar tissue signaling. And if you have endometriosis, you already know this is where things can get life-altering because when it comes to adhesions, even the best excision surgery, you can form adhesions and then you can have more pain.

7:47This disease is not just inflammation, even though I just spent a whole lot of time talking to you about that. It's also adhesions, organ tethering, scar tissue, thickened tissue, pain that gets worse over time because of how things are pulling on the structures. I mean, just ovulation alone can become really painful because of adhesions on the ovaries. Now, in animal studies, GLP-1 medications reduce fibrosis and collagen deposition. That means less scar tissue signaling and potentially less adhesion formation. There may be therapeutic application to use GLP-1s around surgery. Now, here's the clinically important implication right away.

8:28If you have endometriosis plus symptoms that suggest fibrosis, things like increasing pain with movement, bowel symptoms, pain that feels like pulling or tugging, symptoms that are returning after surgery. This is a conversation worth having with your physician, not because we can say GLP-1s treat endometriosis. We cannot say that at this time, but because fibrosis and inflammatory burden may be part of a broader clinical picture. Your doctor has been missing or hasn't even considered yet. And GLP-1s may aid in this. Now, I want to give you throughout this episode, like practical tips to help you.

9:10So I will say the scar tissue pathway is heavily influenced by ongoing inflammation, metabolic stress, which means that like the basics of good health, they matter more than people realize. So again, going back to stabilizing blood sugar, lowering inflammatory fluids that flare you is important. Often we see alcohol being the biggest culprit. Gluten and dairy may be implicated as well. N-acetylcysteine or NAC, it helps with glutathione. It helps with inflammatory pathways as do polyphenols. So polyphenols like eating blueberry, olive oil, and then movement that improves your mobility without overloading your nervous system.

9:53So regular exercise, that can help modulate your immune system. And I think working with a good physical therapist, because if you have adhesions, you can still get some mobility in the pelvis, and a good pelvic floor physical therapist can help with that. So endometriosis always needs a whole body strategy, including if we're talking about scar tissue. And if you're considering GLP ones, they may be helpful in this. And this is something that within the endometriosis reset course. I talk about like dosing and how to talk to your doctor about it if you want to fit GLP-1s into that bigger picture.

10:30And I have this theory because we see this so often when it comes to any kind of hormone resistance. And I think that insulin resistance is really the archetype of this. Anytime cells are inflamed, it is harder to dock receptors. It's harder to put hormones on the receptor. And so that's what happens with the insulin resistance. We also see with PMDD, which is a extreme, extreme form of PMS, and even saying that is not doing its service and how bad it is. There's GABA-alpha receptor dysfunction. And so allopregnenolone doesn't dock appropriately in the brain. With endometriosis, there is progesterone resistance.

11:10I have a theory that the hyper-inflammatory environment created by these lesions makes them more resistant to progesterone. They would also become resistant to estrogen. However, they upregulate estrogen receptors because they need estrogen to survive. So my theory is if we drop inflammation, whether you're doing that nutritionally with an anti-inflammatory diet, lifestyle-wise, getting saying nice things to yourself, like all the things we do naturally, or you're leveraging a GLP-1 and you're dropping inflammation, that may help progesterone dock on the receptor. And now we've got progesterone stimulating the lesions, which we know opposes estrogen's proliferative growth effects.

11:56And so in that way, we may be able to use GLP-1s to alter the lesion's actual hormone receptors, because if they're not resistant, they're not going to upregulate estrogen receptors as much. And if we start altering estrogen levels, then these lesions can't proliferate. Now, these are theories and I'm putting them out there. If you are a scientist listening to this, please study it. But I think this is something that I'm like, this may be the mechanism by which women do anti-inflammatory protocols and their lesions don't grow. And in some cases, maybe GLP-1s are also working on this mechanism.

12:37Now, because GLP-1s also help with inflammation, something that we see is that they help modulate the immune system. So the macrophages, which are like the Pac-Man of the immune system, they can be really inflammatory in endometriosis. And so they're trying to gobble up lesion debris and just, you know, They're trying to clean up or clean house, so to speak. And so maybe GLP-1s actually help them act right. But something that's really promising about GLP-1s is reducing reactive oxygen species. So I'm actually working on a book right now where I'm writing all about how reactive oxygen species impact mitochondrial health and how that leads to more brain fog and more issues in terms of our energetic production in our brain.

13:24So like maybe we stall out mid-sentence. We don't have the brain energy to follow through on things. And so with that said, GLP-1s, they may help lower reactive oxygen species. As we lower reactive oxygen species, I think that's going to help with a lot of things in terms of our cellular function. But the phenomenon of endobrain, of the changing of our brain, the central sensitization that can occur, but also the potential, it's a potential higher risk of dementia and then the brain fog and the executive dysfunction that we see with endometriosis, that may improve well in GLP-1s. And that is because as you get these reactive oxygen species, they cause your mitochondria to misbehave.

14:09The mitochondria then increase more reactive oxygen species and every single cell in your body starts to struggle. and that is a big reason why women with endometriosis struggle with endo fatigue. So 80 % of us roughly present with fatigue as a major symptom and that can be related to reactive oxygen species, mitochondrial dysfunction, and the immune chaos that's going on. And so GLP-1s, if it can calm that chaos and you continue to eat while you're on them because you needed calories, you may actually see improvement in energy. So I think that's another aspect of this disease that's really interesting and promising that GLP-1s may help with.

14:51But again, we don't have a human clinical trial on GLP-1s and endometriosis. And I just want to be clear about that because this is an experiment right now. And in a lot of ways, I mean, well, let me be really clear because people are always like, you can't use GLP-1s off-label. I don't know why GLP-1s and testosterone being used in women off-label are like the only medications that people are like, you can't do that, that's off-label. Like, hello, spironolactone all day, every day, pumping it out in clinics to women with PCOS, not approved, off-label usage. Like, that was a blood pressure medication.

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16:16Go to drbrighton.com slash endoglobal to schedule your complimentary consultation. That's d-r-b-r-i-g-h-t-e-n dot com slash e-n-d-o-g-l-o-b-a-l. That helps lower androgens. We use a lot of medications off-label. We beg the FDA to like get approvals and we beg scientists to study things more. And we're using GLP-1s experimentally in endometriosis patients. And really, the way it's been used is that someone is overweight, insulin resistance, like GLP-1 is indicated. It's used. Oh, they also have endometriosis. Things get better. Hmm. Okay, that's interesting. Now we're starting to see women elect to get on GLP-1s and do what's called microdosing or, you know, low dose.

17:10And they're saying I'm having benefits because their goal isn't weight loss. They're like, I don't want to lose weight. I don't want any nausea. I just want to see if it lowers my inflammation. We are seeing positive effects. So, okay, that's interesting. As clinicians who are listening right now, we need to be judicious in how we use this. We need to make sure that there's no risk factors. We need to monitor patients closely. We don't want to risk sarcopenic obesity in their future because they lose muscle mass just to try to manage endometriosis. Remember, she is always more than endometriosis.

17:41That patient who sits across from you is always more than endometriosis. She's a complex biological system that is navigating a very stressful environment. and we have to account for all of those things. And as a clinician, I always say, I have to be predictive of what is gonna try to take you out early, which is like, what is gonna try to make you past tense before your time? And then that's where I need to operate. And if I think like, oh, this is like cardiovascular disease, then we need to be focusing there, not waiting until things change. And we're like, yes, we do have cardiovascular disease.

18:13Now we need to start a medication. We need to employ things early on. Now, the other thing that I would say is, if you're a clinician and you are seeing these results, please drop a comment on YouTube. Let's start building this mass. You would be surprised how many politicians, how many researchers. I actually look at my comment section and it starts to pique interest. It gets people to say there's something to this. We need to do more about this. So I think there's a lot of promise and GLP-1s. But with that being said, they have to be used in the right person and in the right way. Another interesting part that maybe isn't directly about endometriosis, but is a consequence of endometriosis that GLP-1s may help with.

18:58So as I said, women with endometriosis, they might be 40 to 60 % more likely to develop cardiovascular disease. Cardiovascular disease is the number one killer of women. So this is something we need to pay attention to. And this is why endometriosis is a full body disease. And I keep saying that and I'll keep saying that. So if you do nothing else, starting with blood sugar stability is a really important move for endometriosis because unstable blood sugar, we talked about, it increases inflammation. It also worsens cortisol dysregulation that could lead to hypertension as well, so high blood pressure.

19:36You know, when you have poor blood sugar control, it also amplifies pain sensitivity. But bottom line, in this context, it contributes to cardiometabolic disease. And that means every single meal that you eat needs to be anchored around protein, fiber, and healthy fats. This is something, I know I talk about this all the time. I know you hear this from other people all the time. But in endometriosis women, we're at higher risk for cardiometabolic disease. We're at higher risk for having insulin resistance. Even when our labs look normal, we can still have issues with our blood sugar. And balancing your blood sugar helps calm multiple pathways at once.

20:15Now, why GLP-1s become part of this conversation is because these medications have strong evidence for improving insulin sensitivity, reducing visceral fat, the deep fat that packs around the organs, metabolically active, also causes inflammation. And then GLP-1s, remember I said they lower systemic inflammatory burden. That's important because cardiometabolic issues usually are rooted in inflammation. And we have studies that GLP-1s can help improve cardiovascular outcomes in the right population. So that's another reason to consider it. This kind of like adjacent to endometriosis, but it is like how endometriosis drives cardiovascular disease.

20:57And GLP-1s may help with that. So if someone has endometriosis plus insulin resistance, metabolic syndrome, central adiposity, maybe they have a PCOS overlap, this is a good reason your doctor should be talking to you about GLP-1s. You would be a good candidate for this, not just the endometriosis alone, but because of the insulin, the inflammation, the cardiometabolic risk. And I do have to just like underline that like, this is not about losing weight because everybody always really reduces GLP-1s to like, you just want to like cheat the system and try to lose weight. And so if you're using it, like you're a lazy person, that's not what this conversation is about.

21:36And I think that, I mean, I think you probably get it, but there's going to be someone who comes across this. It's going to be like, she's just talking about GLP-1s as a gimmicky weight loss, and I'm not. I'm talking about GLP-1s because they show real promise in endometriosis management. And when enough people are telling you, this helps me, and I've seen it on patients. I've seen their CRP drop. So that's a marker of inflammation. I have had patients whose inflammatory markers objectively get better when they're on a GLP-1. So it's not just about weight loss. To the haters out there, it's not just about weight loss.

22:13Okay, let's get to the last question everyone keeps asking me and that is which GLP-1 is best? And the honest answer is there is no one best specifically for endometriosis because we haven't studied it. We haven't done any trials looking at GLP-1s and endometriosis and understanding which one is absolutely best for you. And anyone telling you otherwise is making claims beyond the scientific evidence we currently have, but it may be rooted in their clinical experience and what they have seen. So typically, the ones most commonly discussed that includes semaglutide, trisepatide, liraglutide, exenatide, aldatide, semaglutide, and trisepatide tend to be the one that people ask about most right now, does have promise in autoimmune conditions.

23:08Trisepatide also acts on GIP receptors, which makes it mechanistically different. But the right medication also depends on your metabolic goals. especially with the dose, if you're trying to lose weight or you're not, how well you tolerate it, if you're having GI side effects, if you're having fertility goals, because we don't want to be using these medications while you're actively trying to conceive or once you are pregnant, because we just don't have safety data on it. And then also there's like access issues. Some countries only have like semaglutide. There's also clinician preference and experience and what they are comfortable working with.

23:47And there's comorbid insulin resistance that also has to be considered in this conversation. Now, this is not something that I would say go DIY, okay? So if there's anything to take away from this episode is that GOP-1s may be one tool, one tool in the broader treatment scope of endometriosis because of their potential on inflammation, metabolic health, death fibrosis cardiovascular risk but they're not going to be the whole strategy they are not going to be a cure for endometriosis and that i think is important because you've certainly seen well-meaning individuals out there being like this cured my endometriosis it didn't cure your endometriosis but it did make your pain more manageable i believe you about that but there's nothing to show right now that using glp1s will actually make your lesions disappear and i want so badly.

24:41There to be something out there though that we can use other than surgery to do that. So keep in mind, there's no one supplement, no one diet, no one surgery, no one medication that is going to completely treat endometriosis because endometriosis is affecting the immune system, the gut, blood sugar regulation, pain signaling and hormones and your nervous system. And all at the same time. And I think it's important to understand that you have to address all of those things, but you don't have to do it all at once. If you are looking for a guide, you guys asked for it, so I built it. It's the endometriosis reset course.

25:19And I walk you through step by step the protocols, like specifically like supplement dosage and timing. And supplements are, by the way, an extra. You don't have to use them in the course, but I do give specific protocols to make it easier. We also go through like nutrition protocols, blood sugar stabilization protocols, as gut healing and microbiome support, get rid of endobelly, but help modulate the immune system. We also talk a lot about HPA access dysregulation. We talk about nervous system and how to rehab the nervous system that's learned how to be in pain all the time. We want to walk it back from that.

25:59But also in the course, we're going deeper on conversations like if you need to consider hormone replacement therapy, how to talk to your doctor about that, like what you should be considering and what never to do. We also talk about GLP-1, dosing, how to talk to your doctor about it and not avoid the traps of going too high and then getting sicker from it. So essentially what I did is instead of you piecing it together from my podcast, social media clips, or the conflicting advice online, I gave you a clear roadmap. And what I'm teaching in that course, is what I teach clinicians. And I train clinicians on how to do more for their endometriosis patients beyond just surgery.

26:41So I teach surgeons how to use these nutrition and supplement protocols as well. And they're really receptive to that integrative approach. And what I try to help you answer in the course is what is driving your endometriosis symptoms right now. So you know the most effective way to intervene. That's what we're solving inside the course. And we're helping you figure out how to best manage your endometriosis because none of us have the same experience with endometriosis. We all have the same factors involved, but the way we experience it can be very different. The endometriosis reset can be found at drbrighton.com slash endocourse.

27:15That's d-r-b-r-i-g-h-t-e-n.com slash endocourse. And listen, if it's right for you, I can't wait to see you in there. And if it's not, no worries. I'm still going to be here supporting you, making sure that you get access to the information you need and supporting you on your journey. Because I think that is seriously the minimum of what a woman with endometriosis needs. It's just to know she's not alone, that this is hard for all of us, and that there is hope and there are many things that you can do to support your health. And as always, I really appreciate you being here, supporting the show, supporting my efforts to change women's medicine for the better.

27:55I can't do it alone. I need your support. I need you out there sharing this podcast, sharing what you learned from this podcast, rallying behind the movement, and asking your doctors for better. And literally, those little acts, they add up to big change in women's health. If you think about, you know, there are hundreds of thousands of women who listen to this podcast, and if every single one of them goes to their doctor and says, hey, endometriosis isn't just period pain, and I don't just want the birth control pill. What I want is a referral to get imaging, to see an excision specialist, to have a broader conversation about what is going on in my system.