Gut Health Probiotics: What Every Woman Needs to Know to Balance Hormones Naturally

10 Jul 2025 · 49 min · 17 chapters

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In short

How the gut microbiome affects estrogen balance via the “estrobolome” (beta-glucuronidase), and how restoring gut health can improve symptoms tied to estrogen excess, thyroid dysfunction, and autoimmunity. It also covers prebiotics, probiotics, postbiotics, and “chrononutrition” (timing food to circadian rhythms).

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No guests are interviewed. Host is Dr. Jolene Brighton (The Dr. Brighton Show).

Key claims

  • Gut bacteria with beta-glucuronidase can re-activate estrogen (enterohepatic recirculation), contributing to “estrogen dominance” symptoms when dysbiosis is present.
  • Dysbiosis can be driven by antibiotics, stress, poor diet, and low fiber.
  • Gut health influences thyroid hormone conversion (T4 to T3) and autoimmunity triggers (gut infections, leaky gut).
  • Prebiotics feed beneficial microbes; probiotics add live microbes; postbiotics (e.g., butyrate) help gut lining, inflammation, and may affect estrogen/cortisol/insulin.

Notable examples

  • Endometriosis: women with endo may have fewer Lactobacillus and more pro-inflammatory microbes; lesions may produce hormones.
  • Stool testing examples: beta-glucuronidase activity, short-chain fatty acids, calprotectin/secretory IgA, candida, H. pylori, SIBO, parasites.
  • Diet examples: polyphenol foods (berries, green tea, pomegranate, dark chocolate), fermented foods (kefir, sauerkraut, kimchi), cooked cruciferous vegetables, broccoli sprouts, calcium D-glucarate, resistant starch (cool cooked potatoes/rice, green bananas), and front-loading fiber earlier in the day.

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Understanding Estrogen and the Estrobilone

2:15 to 3:09

Learn how gut bacteria affect estrogen levels in the body.

“This helps center women's voices in women's medicine and women's health.”

The Role of Beta-Glucuronidase in Estrogen Reabsorption

3:09 to 5:29

Discover how beta-glucuronidase influences estrogen recycling and balance.

“that your liver has already packaged up and supposed to be moving out.”

Dysbiosis and Its Effects on Hormonal Health

5:29 to 7:18

Examine how gut imbalance can lead to hormonal issues like PMS.

“But this whole mechanism is about balance and making sure that you have the estrogen that you need.”

Testing and Identifying Gut Imbalances

7:18 to 10:00

Learn about stool tests and their role in identifying gut health issues.

“And then that means too much estrogen gets reabsorbed.”

Dietary Strategies for Gut Health

10:00 to 11:16

Discover dietary changes that can support gut health and hormonal balance.

“So actually, let me back up and just say that your provider may actually want to order a stool test.”

Probiotics and Their Importance

11:16 to 14:00

Understand the role of probiotics and fermented foods for gut health.

“Because that's not a good time if you're over patrolling everybody.”

The Role of Cruciferous Vegetables in Hormonal Balance

14:00 to 16:40

Discover how cruciferous vegetables support liver health and estrogen balance.

“Other things that are helpful to bring in are cruciferous vegetables.”

Understanding Prebiotics, Probiotics, and Postbiotics

17:46 to 23:07

Learn how prebiotics feed gut bacteria, while probiotics support gut health and postbiotics aid in healing.

“So prebiotics are types of non-digestible fibers and plant compounds that feed the beneficial bacteria in your gut.”

Practical Tips for Improving Gut Health

23:07 to 24:41

Find out how cooked cruciferous vegetables can benefit your gut microbiome and hormone levels.

“in the future that tells us that, man, these gut bacteria do so much more than we even thought.”

The Link Between Thyroid Hormones and Gut Health

24:41 to 28:00

Explore how gut health affects thyroid hormone activation and autoimmune conditions.

“I cannot do cruciferous vegetables at all, then you try two tablespoons of broccoli sprouts, which is a lot of bang for a little tiny bit of cruciferous.”
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Essential Nutrients for Gut Health

28:00 to 29:15

Learn about key nutrients like selenium and glutamine that support gut health and thyroid function.

“So if you're having heartburn, you probably don't have enough stomach acid.”

Stress, Gut Health, and Autoimmune Triggers

29:15 to 30:50

Understand how stress and gut infections can trigger autoimmune conditions and affect hormone regulation.

“Fasano's research is where this comes from.”

Healing the Gut and Reducing Stress

31:49 to 33:31

Explore methods to heal the gut lining and reduce stress through daily rituals.

“So again, you know, bringing in things like glutamine to help heal the gut lining can be helpful, but we want to work with a provider because whatever's there, we need to treat it.”

Microbiome and Circadian Rhythm Synchronization

33:31 to 36:29

Discover how synchronizing gut health with circadian rhythms can optimize your health.

“microbiome circadian rhythm synchronization.”

Chrononutrition: Timing Your Food Intake

36:29 to 38:22

Learn about the practice of chrononutrition and its benefits for gut and hormone health.

“We can certainly see dysregulation of the hypothalamic pituitary adrenal axis or HPA axis.”

Postbiotics and Their Role in Gut Health

38:22 to 42:00

Understand the significance of postbiotics in promoting gut health and hormonal balance.

“And what's interesting is that all of your organs are also on clocks.”

Microdosing Your Microbiome for Gut Health

42:00 to 47:40

Learn how to introduce variety into your diet to support gut health.

“Like we want to cool them in the fridge.”
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1:39It's your hormones headquarters, if you will. And today I'm going to show you how restoring gut health and supporting it daily can shift your hormones in a major way. And at the end of this, I'm going to talk to you about some exciting gut strategies that are coming through in the research that you probably haven't heard about before. Now, if you're watching this on YouTube, know that you can always use the chapters that are found in the description to jump to the part that you want to hear most. Totally fine by me. And before we jump in, I just want to say thank you to everyone who has left a review for the podcast.

2:15This helps center women's voices in women's medicine and women's health. and ensures the women who need this information can actually find it. And if you haven't yet left a review, please consider taking a moment to do that wherever you're listening to this podcast. So first things first, let's get into estrogen and the estrobilone. Now you might already know this, especially if you've read any of my books, but your liver processes up estrogen, what you don't need anymore, and it packages up to get excreted. But did you know it's your gut microbiome that is basically the last word on that? It's one of the final says in whether that gets eliminated, so the estrogen you don't need, or it gets recirculated.

3:03So there's a specific group of bacteria in your gut that make up the estrobilone. These bacteria produce an enzyme called beta-glucuronidase, which can reactivate estrogen that your liver has already packaged up and supposed to be moving out. And if you have too much beta-glucuronidase, estrogen then gets recirculated, which can contribute to symptoms of estrogen excess, what some people call estrogen dominance. That can look like heavy periods, breast tenderness, fibroids that are continuing to grow, experiencing mood swings, having cyclical headaches or even migraines. And then certainly it can contribute as well to those of us who have histamine issues feeling like we have the period flu or just feeling overall icky before our period.

3:55Now, I'm going to talk a little bit more about what the estrobolome does because all of that makes it sound really bad. But these got little critters, if you will, that are producing these enzymes, so specifically beta-glucuronidase. That's causing deconjugation of estrogen, so unpackaging it. once the estrogen is deconjugated, it can get reabsorbed. Your body can then use it instead of it getting eliminated in the stool. And this is called enterohepatic recirculation for my nerdy people out there. Now, this whole estrobilone, beta-glucuronidase, like why would your body allow this? Like why would it want to do this, right?

4:34So I want you to understand this mechanism isn't inherently bad. In fact, mild reabsorption of estrogen is really biologically useful under normal conditions. So estrogen, if you don't know, is critical for our survival and reproduction. So it's helping us solidify our bones. It's taking care of our heart. It's modulating immune health. It supports fertility. It's supporting brain health as well. And so we have to have estrogen in the right amount during our formative years and through our reproductive years so that all of these systems are at their best and that's contributing to our survival.

5:17And we love that. So this is one mechanism in which the body makes sure that you have enough estrogen. So it's not that your body is like betraying you. There are certainly problems with dysbiosis that we're going to talk about. But this whole mechanism is about balance and making sure that you have the estrogen that you need. And this becomes really beneficial when we have times of our life where we don't have enough estrogen, like postpartum, postmenopause, late stage perimenopause, primary ovarian insufficiency. So this entire estrobilone beta-glucuronidase was not designed to make your PMS hell and make your breasts hurt all the time or make you bleed like crazy.

6:00It really was a way to ensure that your body has a reserve system, if you will, to maintain balance of estrogen. And again, especially in those times when we can be low or maybe during fasting or nutrient deficiency that your body can say, well, this is all of the estrogen we have. So don't just throw it away like it's nothing. Make sure that we have enough of this. And all of this is part of a very finely tuned feedback loop happening in the body. The body doesn't want to waste estrogen. So when levels are appropriate or low, reabsorption through the estrobilone can help extend the life of the estrogen that you've made.

6:43Again, the goal is homeostasis, not excess. So we've got to talk about when the estrobilone backfires because like everything in our bodies, Like it's designed for your survival, but things can get off balance. And then we're like, why is this the worst experience ever? So specifically, it's when the gut microbiome is imbalanced. So that's what we call dysbiosis. This can occur due to antibiotics, stress, poor diet, not eating enough fiber. That's when we can see a disproportionate amount of the enzyme beta-glucuronidase. And then that means too much estrogen gets reabsorbed. And then that's when we're like, great, like cyclically, I am just losing my mind.

7:29I'm crying all the time before my period. I have super heavy periods. I'm having breast tenderness, mood swings, migraines, and my fibroids are growing. My endometriosis seems to flare oh so bad. I have those period flu-like symptoms. So there's a lot of ways that this imbalance or this excess amount of estrogen can affect us. Now, to be clear, estrogen should always be present through your entire cycle. It is after ovulation that then you make progesterone, and that's when estrogen takes a little bit of a box C and lets progesterone shine. But just understand that estrogen is still there, but it's got to be in the right amounts, and it's got to be balanced with your progesterone.

8:12So the big bottom line to know about the estrobilone is that it has the ability to recycle estrogen as a survival mechanism, if you will. It's a good thing until we have dysbiosis and then not so much a good thing. I'm going to give you tips today on what you can do about that. And we don't want to wipe out the estrobilone. We don't want to suppress the estrobilone. We want to optimize it. So we want to optimize our gut health as a way of optimizing our hormones. And when it comes to gut health, I need you to understand this whole estrogen connection, estrogen also modulates gut health, so they work together.

8:53It's also important for conditions like endometriosis. So studies show that women with endo tend to have less beneficial bacteria like lactobacillus and more pro-inflammatory microbes. And this may be part of the drive behind the systemic inflammation, and it can also contribute to excess estrogen, which creates a perfect storm for more endosymptoms. Not to mention, endometriosis lesions sometimes make their own hormones, which further contributes to the problem. And I'm going to link to some additional episodes on endometriosis in the show notes at drbrighton.com. That way you can get in all of that.

9:34But I want to give you some action steps right now. And if you do have endometriosis, you can grab my guide to help you manage endo flares. It's drbrighton.com slash endo flare that will help you manage the pain. But if you have dysbiosis or you suspect you have dysbiosis, I think working with a clinician is one of the most important steps to make sure you're addressing your individual needs. But while you're waiting to schedule that appointment, here's what you can do right now. So actually, let me back up and just say that your provider may actually want to order a stool test. So if you're like wondering, how would I know if beta-glucuronidase is elevated, you can get a stool culture.

10:20And these functional stool labs, they can look at your beta-glucuronidase activity and that can be indicative of estrogen problems that estrogen might get reactivated reabsorbed can also show dysbiosis so imbalances of beneficial versus opportunistic and sometimes even pathogenic bacteria but most of the time with dysbiosis it's like good guys and okay guys but then not enough good guys and too many of those okay guys um i'd like to think about like like the commensal flora in there, some of it's like they're bouncers at the club, right? And so they serve a purpose. They're not bad. We don't want too many of them.

11:03So they're supposed to be like, you're pathogenic. Get out of here. You can't get into the club. This is my house. But just like you wouldn't want too many bouncers at a party, right? Because that's not a good time if you're over patrolling everybody. You also don't want too many of these commensal flora. So understand when I say opportunistic, for example, yeast vaginitis, getting a yeast infection, that's the overgrowth of opportunistic organisms. They're supposed to be there. So the idea is never to completely wipe out everything in the gut. It's about eating and structuring your life in a way that helps support balance of the microbiome.

11:46And if you do find yourself in dysbiosis, it helps you quickly correct. Now, the other cool thing that the stool test can pick up is something called short-chain fatty acids. That's a marker of how well those little critters in your gut are working for you. We're going to talk a little bit more about short-chain fatty acids today as well. And then we can also track for the presence of inflammatory markers like calprotectin, elevated secretory IgA. That tells us that there's distress in the gut. There's inflammation going on. And then, of course, checking into things like do we have candida overgrowth, H.

12:24pylori is another one. Sometimes parasites are present, but most of the time we're seeing things like small intestinal bacterial overgrowth, H. pylori, candida, and elevations in those commensal flora that are really opportunistic. And anytime we're doing this testing, we also want to partner it with what your symptoms are. It's not enough just to do testing on its own. Now, back to the supportive strategies that I thought I was going to give you before I took that little detour. So first thing is polyphenols. Polyphenols promote microbial diversity. They support beneficial bacteria, and they may help those bacteria do its job, and your whole body do its job in secreting the estrogen you no longer need.

13:12We get polyphenols in things like blueberries, raspberries. So berries overall, green tea, excellent source. Pomegranates, as soon as the season hits, get your pomegranates. Dark chocolate can be a source. Coffee is another source. So including polyphenols in your diet. And if you can stack that as polyphenols that also come with fiber, even better. So we want to increase our fiber. If we're not already eating 25 to 30 grams a day, we want to start moving towards that, which might be something that you're only eating like five grams a day right now of fiber. You're not going to jump to 25 tomorrow.

13:55So you're going to need to move slow and you're going to need to gauge it on how it best works with your gut. Other things that are helpful to bring in are cruciferous vegetables. These are going to provide things like DIM, sulforaphane. And that helps with the liver. The cruciferous vegetables are also going to help the gut. So overall, estrogen support there. Now, I always invite my patients to take an inventory of their day and of their week and ask themselves, how many probiotic-rich foods are they taking in? Things like sauerkraut, kefir, kimchi, ginger bug, these kinds of foods that are fermented, fermented pickles.

14:33We want to be making sure that we are eating those several times a week, if not daily, so that we're really supplying our gut with what it needs to function at its best. Something else that can be really helpful, especially if you have elevated beta-glucuronidase or symptoms that suggest you might, is calcium deglucorate. So this supports the body's natural glucuronidation pathway, which is phase 2 liver detox, and it may help reduce beta-glucuronidase activity, that enzyme that we've been talking about that's going to reactivate your estrogen. Now, most of the time when we are working with beta-glucuronidase, we are going to do that in a supplement form.

15:17I actually have that in my Balance Women's Hormone Support Formula to support phase one, phase two, liver detox, and then phase three, which is like gut health as well and getting that estrogen out. But you can also get it in food like oranges, apples, grapefruit, back to those cruciferous vegetables again. So including those in your diet can be helpful. I want you to understand that you also need to be drinking water for estrogen elimination because you're not just excreting it through the bowels, but you're also excreting it through the kidneys as well. So we need to make sure that we're hydrated so that we can secrete that estrogen through our kidneys, but also so that we can have bowel movements daily.

16:03If your ADHD feels different across your cycle, postpartum, or in perimenopause, ADHD in Women explains why hormones can change your brain and what you can do about it. Pre-order now and for a limited time, get the first chapter audio read by me, Dr. Jolene Brighton, for free, plus a bunch of other bonuses like a free recipe guide and a PMDD workshop. Claim your bonuses at drbrighton.com slash ADHD and women. That's D-R-B-R-I-G-H-T-E-N dot com slash ADHD and women. So I do really like calcium deglucarate because it helps the liver and it helps the gut component. I like to couple that with sulferaphane, DIMM supplements.

16:52Having selenium involved can be really helpful. You can find all of this in my Balance Women's Hormone Support Supplement, which is at drbrightnessentials.com if you want to check that out. Otherwise, you can couple several supplements together if that's what works best for you. The other thing I would recommend is limiting alcohol. That can lead to dysbiosis and it can really be problematic in terms of estrogen metabolism and making sure that you get your estrogen out. Now, I want to shift gears from that, and I want to talk about a tool that can be really helpful for supporting gut health and your gut microbiome, which is probiotics.

17:34Actually, let me do it this way. Let's talk about prebiotics, probiotics, and postbiotics. If you haven't heard of prebiotics before, this is the food for your gut microbes. So prebiotics are types of non-digestible fibers and plant compounds that feed the beneficial bacteria in your gut. It's how we start to shift and keep things healthy and optimized in our gut. So the prebiotics, they kind of act like fertilizer. They help you grow bacteria that are good for your gut and they help them thrive so that they can do their job in supporting your digestion, your immune balance, your hormone metabolism.

18:13So when we think about prebiotics, there's a lot of them out there like garlic and onions, but things like chicory root can also be a nice one to bring in and have in the mix. Leeks are another source. So when leeks are in season, start making your leek soup. When asparagus come into season, let's pool those in. Jerusalem artichokes, if you can get your hands on those, that's another great source of prebiotics. If you're somebody who can hang with green bananas, I know not everybody can, but green bananas can be a really great source. They also have resistant starch, which can help your bacteria in making butyrate.

18:54We're going to talk about that short chain fatty acid a little bit later on. But I want you to understand that we have to be eating prebiotics. We have to be eating fibers if we want to have a healthy gut. Because I was like, let's talk about probiotics. I'm like, wait a minute. Let's back it up. We should definitely talk about prebiotics. One prebiotic that we have in our women's probiotic, the Dr. Brighton Essentials one, is guar gum. And that one, I really love that because prebiotics can actually aggravate people who have SIBO and guar gum doesn't tend to do that. Now, what are probiotics?

19:33You may already know this, but in case you don't, or you haven't heard it from me before, probiotics, those are the live microorganisms that are mostly beneficial bacteria. There's also yeast as well. Like So Saccharomyces boulardii is one that we sometimes supplement with and they can be taken to support your gut health. But we also just want to be nurturing your gut health as well. So I really want to emphasize you have to eat in a way and live in a way that supports your gut health because these microbes, they're helping, they produce certain nutrients. They help improve your digestion. So when they're in the right balance, we're not having gas, bloating, constipation, diarrhea.

20:16We know that gut health is paramount to immune functions where the majority of your immune system lives. We're going to talk about this more as we talk about thyroid today. And as I said before, they assist in hormone clearance. So super, super important. Now, common sources. So you can take a probiotic or you can also eat foods that have probiotics in them as well. Little seeding of the gut, but we got to make sure we're feeding the gut. Don't forget that. yogurt, but specifically yogurt with live cultures because not all of them have that. Kefir we talked about, sauerkraut, kimchi we talked about, miso we didn't talk about.

20:56You can pick up miso paste. Typically what you want to do is put that in, if you're making a soup, you're not going to boil it. Like if you're making a chicken soup and you want to do this after the chicken has gone in at the very end, mixing it up so that we are not just boiling the heck out of them. And listen, sometimes these microbes are dead and they come in and they still participate in signaling that's really important for gut health. So I don't want you to be like, it's all or nothing with the me cell. And then if you're thinking about probiotics, you want to be looking at high quality probiotic supplements, making sure that they have enough in them, they have the right kind of strains in them to actually support what you're trying to do, and that those beneficial bacteria are doing what we're going to talk about next, producing postbiotics.

21:51So postbiotics are what your gut bacteria create. They are bioactive compounds that the bacteria produce after they digest the prebiotic fibers. So these can include the short-chain fatty acids like butyrate that I mentioned before, acetate, propionate. So those short-chain fatty acids, they also can produce enzymes, peptides. So these postbiotics are really a new area where the research is starting to explore how beneficial these postbiotics are. What we're starting to understand, postbiotics can help. They can help with brain function in some situations, reduce inflammation. They can actually help with repairing our gut linings.

22:41So let's say you take ibuprofen. We know that can cause some damage to the gut lining. It can lead to leaky gut. These postbiotics, what your bacteria are making, these can help you with repairing that. There is research starting to explore the role in regulating estrogen and cortisol and insulin sensitivity. So it's a really cool area that I think we're going to see a lot more research coming out in the future that tells us that, man, these gut bacteria do so much more than we even thought. I remember over 20 years ago when I was in nutrition school and they told us like, oh, these gut bacteria, they're just a bunch of freeloaders.

23:23Like, yeah, they make a little vitamin K, maybe a little B12, but like they're not really doing much for you. And I just laugh at where we are now that we've got so many bacteria and they're doing so much for us. And it's not just bacteria. It's all kinds of microbes in there. So just, I want to reiterate like how prebiotics, postbiotics, how it all works together. So you eat the prebiotics, they feed the probiotics in your gut, and then the probiotics make postbiotics. Postbiotics heal, regulate, and balance your gut and support your hormones as well. I just said a whole lot of information. Right now you might be like, okay, just like what is one thing that I could do right now to positively influence my gut microbiome and my estrogen levels.

24:13So the number one thing I would say is start with cooked cruciferous vegetables, like a half a cup, maybe even up to a cup if you're already eating those, like broccoli, cauliflower, kale, Brussels sprouts. So those cooked cruciferous vegetables will be easier on your digestive tract. They'll feed those good guys in your gut. They'll support estrogen detox through the liver and supporting the gut bacteria that are helping aid you in getting the estrogen you no longer need out. And if you're like, I cannot do cruciferous vegetables at all, then you try two tablespoons of broccoli sprouts, which is a lot of bang for a little tiny bit of cruciferous.

24:54Now I want to switch gears and start talking about thyroid hormones and gut health because your gut is going to activate like 20 % of your thyroid hormone. So T4 is converted to T3, the active form in the gut. So when your microbiome is out of balance, you might not convert this as well. And if you don't, you're going to have hypothyroid symptoms, which is like fatigue, cold intolerance, constipation, dry skin, brain fog, irregular periods, heavy periods. You may have lots of gas and bloating happening in the digestive tract. You may have heartburn. You may be experiencing joint pain, hair loss, loss of the lateral third of your eyebrows.

25:44And I don't know if I said this already, but infertility can be associated with low thyroid hormone. So when you produce thyroid hormone from the thyroid gland at the front of your neck here, you are producing mostly T4. It is out in the peripheral tissue where you have to convert it to T3. That's your active thyroid hormone, your mood, your metabolism, your menses, your gut motility. And so the gut is one of these places where this conversion takes place. But there's like an even deeper layer to what is happening in the gut as well. And that's because the number one cause of thyroid disease is autoimmunity.

26:23Hashimoto's and Graves' disease are both autoimmune in origin. And what's one thing that can trigger autoimmunity in many people? Gut infections. So certain pathogens like Yersinia, H. pylori, even SIBO imbalance has been linked to thyroid antibodies. Plus, leaky gut or intestinal hyperpermeability allows immune cells to be exposed to things they were never meant to see, which can kick start an autoimmune reaction. Now, before I get into strategies, I just want to remind you, I do have a full episode exploring the root cause of thyroid disease with Dr. Isabella Wentz, and I will link that in the show notes for you because if you're like, I just want to go super deep on thyroid, I want you to know that I've got you covered on that.

27:11Now, Graves' disease is hyperthyroidism. That is when you have antibodies that attach to the thyroid receptor and stimulate the thyroid to produce hormones. Hashimoto's is what causes hypothyroidism. Those antibodies flag the thyroid for destruction, then the immune system comes in and destroys the gland. Then you don't make enough hormones because you don't have enough of a gland left, and then you have hypothyroid symptoms. In both cases, we have to work on gut health. So if you have gut infections, we have to treat those. SIBO, parasites in some cases, H. pylori, super common. We have to treat it, especially those who are hypothyroid.

27:53We need to look at stomach acid and consider using things like betters or betaine HCL because you need thyroid hormone to stimulate the cells that produce acid in your stomach. So if you're having heartburn, you probably don't have enough stomach acid. We also want to be eating selenium-rich foods, so Brazil nuts, sardines, eggs, fish all together, and also eating fermented veggies, prebiotic fibers like we talked about. I'll link in the show notes to drbrighton.com article that lists out some of the best prebiotic fibers. So if you're really visual, I'll give that to you as well. Now, selenium that I just mentioned, I just want to say that is helpful because that's been shown to help with reducing thyroid antibodies as can myo-inositol as well.

28:39And then we may also want to bring in glutamine, bone broth. Bone broth can be really healing for some people. For others, it can cause a histamine issue. So it's just about what's true for you. And lastly, move your body. Even if it hurts, even if you're so tired, even if it's just a little light walk, we activate our thyroid hormone also through movement. So while you're working on your gut, make sure you're still moving your body. And that's also going to support your gut health as well. Now, you may have heard me say before that there's three ingredients to creating the autoimmune cake, if you will.

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29:18Dr. Fasano's research is where this comes from. Number one is you have to have the genes to develop that autoimmune disease. Number two is leaky gut intestinal hyperpermeability. And number three is a triggering event. So we can effectively, we can't change your genes. we can change your gut health. So I want to talk a little bit more about gut infections and as it relates to stress and cortisol, because Hashimoto's, Graves, they're not the only autoimmune conditions and gut infections, those can be a triggering event. Plus you have intestinal hyperpermeability or leaky gut stress, that can be a triggering event.

29:55But we also know that with autoimmune disease, we can have dysregulation of cortisol because it is another type of stress. So let's get into that a little bit more. Now, I need you to understand that your gut is both a victim and an amplifier when it comes to stress. So when you're in distress, your brain shifts how it signals the endocrine system, your hormones. It doesn't steal hormones, to be clear. It prioritizes survival like cortisol over reproductive ones like progesterone. And chronic stress can also damage our gut lining, leading to leaky gut, and that can create more inflammation. And if you have a gut infection, your body sees that as a 24-7 stressor, and it creates a cortisol loop where it's like infection, bump the cortisol.

30:45Oh, we have gut damage, more inflammation, we need more cortisol. And this is where you're having gut issues, but you're having other symptoms. In a lot of cases we'll see things like anxiety, irritability, trouble sleeping or insomnia. You might feel that you're having cravings that you never had before. And when we have cortisol dysregulation, one of the hallmark signs is that wired and tired feeling. I try to go to bed at night. My body is exhausted. My brain will not shut up. If your ADHD feels different across your cycle, postpartum, or in perimenopause, ADHD in Women explains why hormones can change your brain and what you can do about it.

31:30Pre-order now and for a limited time, get the first chapter audio read by me, Dr. Jolene Brighton, for free. Plus a bunch of other bonuses like a free recipe guide and a PMDD workshop. Claim your bonuses at drbrighton.com slash ADHD in Women. That's d-r-b-r-i-g-h-t-e-n.com slash ADHD and women. So again, you know, bringing in things like glutamine to help heal the gut lining can be helpful, but we want to work with a provider because whatever's there, we need to treat it. If there's something there, there's an infection, we need to treat it. We need to treat it the right way. We don't need to just go on TikTok talk and do a parasite cleanse.

32:15One, that might be really harsh and be worse for your gut and cause more problems. But two, we don't want to guess at what we're treating. We want to get in, get the job done, and get out. Other things that can be beneficial, if you can't do bone broth, maybe looking at collagen-rich foods, some people tolerate that well. But as we're talking in the stress conversation is daily stress-reducing rituals. So I have episodes where I talk about vagus nerve stimulation. We go through a whole breathing. That's with Dr. Navaz. I will link to that. Doing box breathing, inhale four, hold four, exhale four, hold four, do it again.

32:58Nature walking, very good for your hormones, very good for your gut, getting out, getting that movement, journaling. We want to make sure that we're doing things that are going to help us dissipate and deal with the stress because we can't control and eliminate all stress. So I would challenge you to add a daily nervous system ritual, deep breathing, grounding, something calming that helps your body feel safe and sends a safe signal because that can help with your gut healing journey and help your hormones. Now, I want to talk to you about something really exciting, microbiome circadian rhythm synchronization.

33:39So this I think is super, super cool, newer research coming out, and it gives us some insights on how we can start to structure our eating and our life in a way to support our gut at another level. So you are probably familiar circadian rhythm, right? Our cortisol rises in the morning and we wake up, we want to get sunlight. But what we're learning is, is that gut bacteria have their own circadian rhythms that sync with our body clock. And disruptions like poor sleep, erotic eating, jet lag, that can be a really bad one. Even just disruption of like our hormones like cortisol, melatonin, insulin, estrogen can disrupt these bacteria as well.

34:24So we now are understanding that the gut microbiome exhibits diurnal oscillations, which means certain species grow, shift, produce metabolites in sync with our 24-hour circadian rhythm. And these microbial rhythms influence and are influenced by your own central and peripheral clock, so including hormone secretion. So remember, cortisol peaks in the morning with the sunlight, right? And melatonin degrades. Insulin tends to be more effective earlier in the day rather than eating like midnight, right? Estrogen and progesterone are regulated via pulses from the pituitary gland, FSH and LH. And then we know melatonin is produced in darkness and melatonin is also involved with our immune system, our gut health.

35:21So all of these hormones are connected to our gut. Our gut is connected to our hormones. And when the rhythm gets disrupted, so do hormones. And when hormones get disrupted, we see the gut can get disrupted as well. So when we have chronic circadian rhythm misalignment, which can happen from poor sleep. As I said before, erratic eating patterns. So ADHD people know erratic eating patterns, but not eating in a regular schedule or regular windows. If you're someone who has shift work, thank you for your work that you do. And also it's not really great for our circadian rhythm and for our gut health.

36:03Jet lag, like I said, that's another one that can desynchronize the gut's microbiome's natural rhythm. And what that can lead to in some instances, like if it's extreme, it could be bad. In a lot of these like jet lag, we're going to see temporary hits and then your body's going to come back because you're doing all of these great things that we're talking about in this episode. But we can see reduced microbial diversity. So diversity lowers. We can see leaky gut comes on. We can see inflammation. Glucose metabolism can be affected. We can certainly see dysregulation of the hypothalamic pituitary adrenal axis or HPA axis.

36:44So we start seeing cortisol issues. We can see sex hormone imbalances. We know when there is sleep disruption, we might not ovulate and we might not produce enough estrogen. And And, you know, again, all of these hormones are super important to our survival and also are connected to our gut and our overall health. So there's something called chrononutrition. It's really cool. It may be on like the new frontier for like hormone and gut therapy and what it means. Maybe I should define that right. It refers to like the timing of your food intake in alignment with your body's circadian rhythms to help optimize your metabolism, your gut health, your hormone signaling.

37:31And the key principles of this that you abide by if you're following it is to eat during daylight hours to support the microbiome and insulin sensitivity. And I want to just acknowledge that the higher you are in latitude, the less sunlight you're getting. And so if you're like, no, but before I leave the house, it's dark. And when I get home, it's dark. It's like, well, that's the way that you're living right now. And I wouldn't say like, oh, reduce your feeding time to just the little bit of light that you're getting in a day. But we overall want to follow a pattern where it is where we're eating in line with our circadian rhythm.

38:09So when we wake up, we're eating, hopefully getting some sunlight exposure. When we're going to bed and it's dark, we're not eating. So as we're gearing up two to three hours before bed, we're not eating food. And what's interesting is that all of your organs are also on clocks. And it's interesting because we see that digestive enzymes and insulin, they're not optimized to be produced after 8 p.m., for example. That's how it is for a lot of people and what some of the research has said. So later at night, we're not really optimized to digest food to handle a glucose response. So this way of eating is looking at like, how are you naturally in rhythm with nature?

38:53And let's make sure that we're eating in this way. What's interesting about this is that it follows something that I've used in my clinical practices for many years. Unless somebody has blood sugar issues and they need a snack at night, we're closing the kitchen for about 12 hours after dinner until breakfast. And so that 12-hour spot tends to do really well, whether it's men or women. So the 12 hours of not eating while you're sleeping, okay? You're gearing up for bed. You're going to sleep. Then you're getting up in the morning and you're starting to prepare breakfast and then you're eating.

39:31Now, the other thing, another principle that we want to think about is front-loading fiber and probiotic-rich foods earlier in the day to work with those gut microbiota rhythms instead of realizing I didn't get enough fiber and then eating 20 grams of fiber for dinner. We want to front load the fiber. And again, avoid late night eating because that can be disruptive to your hormones as well. And sometimes we just don't sleep well the later we eat. It's something that if you have a wearable, you can actually test that and see if that's true for you. Now, I said I was going to talk a little bit more about postbiotics, the short-chain fatty acids.

40:12I think this is also really interesting research that we're starting to see. So the postbiotics, as I was saying, they can help with tight junction proteins, reducing gut permeability. They can protect us potentially from autoimmune triggers, so Hashimoto's, increased inflammation, thinking about endometriosis. So when it comes to these postbiotics, remember, we have to eat the prebiotics. We have to have the probiotics present to eat that so that they then produce the postbiotics. So butyrate is one really cool one. You can actually get that from ghee and dairy sources, but your bacteria also make it.

40:51So it helps with your gut lining. We've talked about that. We talked about inflammation. It may also help with better estrogen metabolism, healthier immune response. There's studies starting to look at brain function, how it helps those with ADHD. Propionate, that's another short-chain fatty acid. Supports blood sugar balance with insulin sensitivity, which is really important for like polycystic ovarian syndrome, perimenopause. I have a whole episode about insulin issues that I will definitely link to for you. And acetate, which helps regulate your appetite. It fuels your brain, your liver. like it's another really important one.

41:31So we rely on these postbiotics and I want to talk about some specific things that you can eat to help you make those postbiotics, help your gut bacteria make those postbiotics. So the thing I want to talk about the most that I haven't really covered is resistant starches. So cook, cool your potatoes, eat them, cook, cool your rice and eat them. Green bananas, I did mention before. Lentils can also be helpful. We don't want to leave our potatoes and our rice on the counter, okay? Like we want to cool them in the fridge. And this resistant starch can help you make more butyrate. We talked about high fiber foods.

42:13So foods that are loaded with inulin, oligosaccharides, these prebiotic fibers, they promote microbial diversity. And that's what we want in the gut, in the vagina, in the uterus. We do not want microbial diversity, but in the gut, yes, we do. Polyphenols, cacao, green tea, pomegranate, berries, olives, we talked about these before. They feed beneficial bacteria. They increase postbiotic production, and they can help with lowering inflammation. They can also support longevity. I want you to understand that polyphenols are like rocket fuel to our cells. They just make our cells just high-octane performance little cells.

43:00They're amazing to be including in your diet every single day. Omega-3 rich seeds. What I like about chia seeds, flax seeds, is that, yeah, they're giving you anti-inflammatory omega-3s, but they also can help you increase the abundance of short-chain-producing bacteria. So chia seed pudding. I will throw a couple tablespoons of chia seeds on top of yogurt. I will share an article, a link to the article about seed cycling in this episode as well. That's another great way to be getting those seed fibers in as well. I like to say microdose your microbiome when it comes to eating. So oftentimes people will be like, okay, I get enough fiber, but where are you getting that fiber?

43:48I'm getting that fiber because I eat lentils, oats, chia seeds, and carrots in my week. Are you eating anything else? No, that's primarily my staples that I'm eating every week. We want to show our microbiome as much diversity of foods as possible. So what do I mean when I say microdose your microbiome? I use this a lot, especially with my neurodivergent patients, those with ADHD and autism especially have food aversions. It is not that you always have to go and like eat a whole plate of this root vegetable and then switch and eat something different. The microdosing your microbiome is, can we just add a little bit of something that's different?

44:36So for example, I went to the Asian market. They had a lot of Chinese stuff, but they had ramen. So I'm like, I'm calling it the Asian market because they had a lot of different cultures available of food, different cultures, foods available. And they had dehydrated mushrooms and they had cordyceps and they had mushrooms. They had just species of mushrooms I hadn't seen before, totally edible. but we got that and I bought that and I made a soup with it. My toddler was like, I'm not eating that slimy mushroom. You're crazy. I'm like, I hear you four-year-old. And can I just give you the littlest piece?

45:17Can I just give you, can I just like treat your gut bugs? Can I just microdose your microbiome and give it a little bit of something? So I say that because if you're someone who's like, I'm listening to all these foods and I don't want to eat them and I have food aversions, like, can we just give a little bit? We want to be getting that 25 grams, 30 grams of fiber, but can I just give you a little bit of something, something new? Maybe you're eating different kinds of sprouts. Maybe you are picking up a root vegetable and you're like, listen, I don't want to eat this weird fruit vegetable that I've never seen before, right?

45:52That's a normal human reaction. So maybe what you do is you're like, I'm making a stir fry. I'm going to grate a little bit of this root vegetable and I'm only going to put a tablespoon in. And in that way, like, is this going to completely transform your microbiome? No, nothing on its own. Not one thing I say today is going to be the one thing that transforms your microbiome. You're going to need to be doing a combination of things. But when we microdose the microbiome with like little bits coming in, we are signaling that the environment has this variety and we know that food variety leads to microbial diversity.

46:29And that's what we want in the gut. So if you are somebody, I bring this up because if you are somebody who's like, ew, I don't want to eat these foods, can you just give your microbiome a little bit? Can it be one bite? Can it just be a tiny bit so that we're giving your microbiome something different, something interesting, something to flourish on? Now, I want to remind you as we wrap this up that your gut is part of your hormone headquarters, okay? The truth is your gut isn't just about digestion. It's also what's going on with your hormones and your hormones are potentially messing with your gut as well.

47:06If you're having things like heavy periods, thyroid issues, autoimmunity, PCOS, burnout, you have any of these kinds of conditions, endometriosis, it's really important to investigate how is this connected to your gut. Now listen, if you found this information is helpful, please share it with someone that you know it could help. Leave a review. I love hearing how you're feeling supported and how I can also support you in future episodes. So thank you so much for being here with me. And please, please, please honor your gut and make sure that you are always taking care of it because it is so crucial to your hormonal health.

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