4 Bee Products to Eat DAILY to 10x Gut Health, Reduce Cancer Risk, & Fix Hormones

25 Sep 2025 · 56 min · 22 chapters

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In short

The episode argues that bee products (honey, propolis, bee pollen, royal jelly) can be used daily to support gut health, immune function, seasonal allergy relief, hormone balance, and even cancer risk reduction. It also criticizes most store-bought honey as pasteurized/processed and discusses pesticide (glyphosate) impacts on bees and human health, plus bee venom therapy as a future cancer-drug source.

Guest backgrounds

Carly Kramer, founder of Beekeepers Naturals; she describes having an autoimmune condition and being unable to take antibiotics, then using propolis after meeting a pharmacist in Europe. She became a beekeeper and later started her company.

Key claims

Propolis is antiviral/antifungal/antimicrobial/anti-inflammatory and “immunomodulatory,” helping underactive or overactive immune responses. Honey should be raw/unpasteurized; pollen provides a micro-dose allergen for tolerance; royal jelly acts as a “yin tonic,” supporting menopause symptoms, fertility, and brain health.

Notable examples

Buckwheat honey vs dextromethorphan for pediatric upper respiratory infections; FDA recall of phenylephrine for lack of efficacy; propolis used for tonsillitis; royal jelly study (about 200 women; 600–1000 mg/day for 8 weeks) improving menopause symptoms; bee venom compared to future cancer drugs.

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The Importance of Bees

0:00 to 0:26

Understanding the impact of pesticides on bee populations and honey quality.

“As soccer takes center stage this summer, Comcast helps bring the experience home to America.”

The Importance of Bees

1:14 to 1:46

Understanding the impact of pesticides on bee populations and honey quality.

“Maybe the most important animal that we need to help proliferate in the world are bees.”

Honey vs. Cough Syrups

1:46 to 2:44

Honey is a natural alternative to common cough syrups.

“76 % of the honey today that everyone is buying is basically sugar.”

Introducing Carly Kramer

2:44 to 4:38

Discussion with Carly Kramer about the healing benefits of honey.

“One of the last things I want to talk about, and this is so fascinating, is bee venom therapy.”

Propolis and Immune Health

4:38 to 7:10

Carly shares her journey with bee products and the benefits of propolis.

“She's the founder of Beekeepers Naturals.”

Propolis Explained

7:10 to 10:48

Exploring propolis as a gentle yet powerful natural remedy.

“And to your point, it acts in the body like an adaptogen, you know, in terms of if you need more immune strengthening, it'll help strengthen.”

The Benefits of Honey and Bee Products

10:48 to 13:55

The use of honey and bee products for seasonal allergies and gut health.

“And it's actually really powerful for gut health as well.”

The Power of Bee Pollen for Energy and Immunity

14:01 to 18:23

Learn how bee pollen serves as a natural protein source and boosts energy and endurance.

“That is what the bees eat for their protein.”

Honey: A Healthier Sugar Alternative

18:24 to 20:36

Discover why honey is a better sugar option and how it interacts with the body.

“Cancer, dementia, heart disease, they're coming for so many people.”

Royal Jelly's Role in Hormonal Balance and Fertility

20:37 to 24:51

Understand the benefits of royal jelly for menopause symptoms and hormonal health.

“So again, swap out the other stuff, start using honey instead.”
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The Longevity and Cognitive Benefits of Royal Jelly

24:52 to 28:01

Explore the unique properties of royal jelly and its potential for brain health and longevity.

“And again, honey is one of those things where, I mean, it's so multifaceted in the benefits.”

The Power of Bee Products

28:01 to 29:11

Discover the unique longevity peptides found in bee products like honey and royal jelly.

“Propolis itself, the bees are hitting thousands of different trees, flowers, plants to collect the base ingredient.”

Understanding Real Honey

29:11 to 31:27

Learn what to look for in honey and why most processed honey lacks benefits.

“Bees have been around since prehistoric times.”

Honey's Historical Significance

31:27 to 33:21

Explore honey's incredible preservation properties and its historical relevance.

“sourcing and really know what to look for and always, always make sure it's raw and unpasteurized.”

Honey as a Natural Remedy

33:21 to 36:14

Understand how honey can aid digestion, skin healing, and be a safe alternative for children.

“Even, you know, you think about that for digestion, or if you're, let's say you're traveling and I've had situations where everyone I'm with gets food poisoning except for me.”

Honey as a Natural Remedy

36:45 to 36:55

Understand how honey can aid digestion, skin healing, and be a safe alternative for children.

“That's draxhormoneclass.com to take back your health naturally.”

Comparing Natural Products to Pharmaceuticals

36:55 to 41:05

Evaluate the efficacy and safety of natural products versus conventional medicine.

“terms of, hey, let's compare turmeric to ibuprofen, or let's compare oil of oregano to a broad spectrum antibiotic.”

The Importance of Bees in Ecosystem

41:05 to 42:01

Understand the critical role of bees in pollination and the threats they face.

“It's crazy how important they are for our ecosystem.”

The Importance of Honeybees for Ecosystems

42:01 to 44:46

Learn about the critical role honeybees play in pollination and food production, and the challenges they face.

“So if we lose the bees, think about how that would affect our ecosystem.”

The Importance of Honeybees for Ecosystems

44:47 to 45:46

Learn about the critical role honeybees play in pollination and food production, and the challenges they face.

“They're not looking at the cocktail effect.”

Taking Control of Health Amidst Pesticide Prevalence

46:00 to 50:20

Understand the impact of pesticides on health and how to protect yourself and support regenerative practices.

“Pesticides, I mean, they're so prevalent in our world right now, and it's never been more important that we take control and take care of our health.”

Exploring Bee Venom Therapy

50:21 to 52:46

Delve into the potential of bee venom therapy and its exciting applications in health and healing.

“You know, one of the things that I'm excited about proactive about is we've got Jordan Rubin and I own a lot of farmland.”
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1:36100%. One of the things that's happening due to the high pesticide content, the glyphosate, all these chemicals that are being sprayed everywhere, our bees are dying. 76 % of the honey today that everyone is buying is basically sugar. It's not real honey. I'm so happy you brought this up because it is a huge problem and people need to know what to look for. Most cough syrups you can find, it's either phenylephrine or dextromethorphan. This study found that buckwheat honey was just as effective, not slightly less, but with less side effects, straight up just as effective as dextromethorphan for treating upper pediatric respiratory infections.

2:10So when I read that, I was like, why would you ever give a kid dextromethorphan when honey does the trick? And it's natural and has all these other health benefits. And interestingly, phenylephrine, which is the other, these are two actives that are in Robitussin and Vicks and all of these conventional cough syrups that most of us grew up purchasing and thinking were helping us, phenylephrine is now being recalled by the FDA because it doesn't even work. It's just a chemical that does not help you. When is the right time to take honey to fight seasonal allergies? So I believe that you should be taking bee products year-round preventatively.

2:44One of the last things I want to talk about, and this is so fascinating, is bee venom therapy.

2:54Thank you.

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4:25And not just honey, it's byproducts such as royal jelly, propolis, bee pollen, MGO, and so much more. Today I brought in one of the world's leading experts in honey, her name is Carly Kramer. She's the founder of Beekeepers Naturals. And today we're gonna be talking about how to heal using honey as medicine. We'll talk about the sugar content, why it actually isn't the same as other forms of sugar. And also we'll be getting into things like pesticides, natural care products, and so much more. Carly, welcome to the show. Thank you for having me. Well, I'm excited for this conversation because I am a huge fan of honey.

5:02It's the number one natural sweetener we use in the Axe household. And also we use so many different honey products as medicine. I know we're gonna talk about propolis and bee pollen and royal jelly. And a lot of these are really underutilized today. But in the ancient world, they were often prized. And as I mentioned earlier, starting the show, I was reading the Bible this morning and I was talking about King Solomon is recommending using honey. He's known as one of the wisest people, if not the wisest to ever live. So there's lots of benefits of honey. How did you get turned on to the healing benefits of honey?

5:35So I was struggling with my health. I have an autoimmune condition and I was just constantly sick. I would get any virus I was exposed to, just a really, really weak immune system. and I can't take antibiotics. I have a reaction to them. So I was constantly getting sick and modern medicine was not able to help me. And I struggled with that for years. I was always looking for whatever natural alternative or looking at the latest and greatest products. And it was only when I found bee products that I actually was able to resolve things. So I was in Europe at the time. I connected with this fantastic pharmacist and she introduced me to Propolis, which is one of the products coming from the beehive.

6:15different from honey, but just as important. And when she taught me about propolis, I learned that it was antiviral, antifungal, antimicrobial, antibacterial, super anti-inflammatory, and it's an immunomodulatory agent. So it actually helps people with autoimmune conditions to balance out their immune system. If you're underactive, it helps to boost your immune system. If you're overactive, it will help to level you out. So I was convinced by all the research, I started using it. And for me, it functioned in my body the way antibiotics do. I had a really severe case of tonsillitis. Propolis totally took it away.

6:50And I continued using it every day. And it's changed my health. And I started beekeeping because I was so obsessed with bee products. And I was beekeeping and making these products for myself for years before I even thought about starting a company and sharing it. And it's just kind of grew from there. It's so powerful. You know, propolis is probably one of the most least talked about, which should be talked about more forms of medicine. And to your point, it acts in the body like an adaptogen, you know, in terms of if you need more immune strengthening, it'll help strengthen. But also if it needs to calm down that autoimmune response, it's powerful that as well.

7:26You know, I have prescribed and recommended it very, very often for people with autoimmune disease. I really, really like it for people with just chronic infections, long COVID issues. issues related to viral infections, of course, the common cold or flu, but it is so, so powerful. And then as you mentioned, tonsillitis. And the other thing is, it's probably more kid-friendly than anything else out there. You know, I'm a big fan of herbs. And so when I'm looking at modulating someone's immune system, I like using herbs like astragalus. I think they've got a lot of benefits. Reishi mushroom is another one.

8:01And they're generally more gentle as adaptogens, but not as gentle as propolis. And so for kids, It's probably one of the greatest things you could ever recommend. Exactly. It's so interesting because we've talked about this, but the rest of the world, propolis is so well known in Europe. It's very much part of the medical system. But in North America, it's really not known. Like everyone knows honey and honey has so many benefits, but propolis has its own profile. It has over 300 beneficial compounds. And to your point about kids, I mean, that's what I give my daughter. I've been giving it to my daughter since she was six months old.

8:37Like I, and she has an incredible immune system, but it's so gentle and it's so, it's so simple when you think about what propolis actually is. Maybe we should take a step. Yeah, let's do that. So I'll do a little, a little quick little beehive 101 if that would be. Yeah, I would love that. Okay. So honey, you can think of as the carbs, the energy source. It is the food of the bees. It comes from floral nectar. The bees collect that floral nectar. They let it ferment and they get that sticky, delicious liquid gold honey. And honey has so many health benefits. It's delicious, but it's very much the food source for the bees.

9:14Propolis is the medicine for the hive. And it's really interesting because it's actually the components of propolis. It's actually the immunoproperties of plants and trees. So the bees will go around collecting plant and tree resins. So think of like sap as the base ingredient, which is the immune system of plants. Plants have figured out how to survive and brave the storm for billions of years. And so these immunoproperties inside trees and plants are incredibly powerful. The bees will collect that, mix it with their enzymes. They make the sticky substance called propolis, and they use it to line the entire hive to keep it germ-free.

9:53And they'll even line the inside of the cell walls where they're going to put newborn baby bees to create sterile environments for newborns. And so for the bees, they would die without propolis. It's what keeps them safe. It's their buffer against pathogens, bacteria, all of that. I mean, one way to think about it, I think for some people, it's almost like our own gut microbiome. It's teeming with bacteria. I mean, there's a natural immune defense there that's helping protect them. Yeah, exactly. Yeah. Yeah. And something I love about propolis, it can be tricky with certain antifungal, antibacterial agents because they'll kind of kill everything.

10:32Propolis is really gentle on the body. It's really well tolerated. That's why, you know, for me, what I see, I see people using it as their first line of defense, whether it's Lyme disease or the common cold. It's just something that's really well tolerated, but really powerful. And it's actually really powerful for gut health as well. It's been shown to be supportive for leaky gut. There's a compound in propolis called pinosembrin, which is an active that can help reduce candida. There's natural strains of lactobacillus. So it's something that really supports gut health as well. And it's a prebiotic.

11:06Yeah, that's so powerful. So powerful. Yeah. So next time you're sick with a cold or flu, take propolis, or just as a preventative. That's one of the great things about it is taking it, especially throughout the fall and winter season, as a natural immune support. It's incredibly powerful. You know, one of the most common reasons why people take honey today, and I see this happen, I'd love to get your opinion on this. A lot of times when people get sick, they've heard all honey's good. So they'll start taking it when they're sick for allergies. Okay, so like, I'm in the state of Tennessee, and seasonal allergies are terrible here.

11:38You know, it's especially in the fall and spring. When is the right time to take honey to fight seasonal allergies? So I believe that you should be taking bee products year-round preventatively. I think they're really, really important. Propolis is actually another one that I recommend for allergies. I think everyone should be using propolis every day. That I swear by. And there's actually quite a few studies that show that propolis helps to balance the histamine response. So for somebody with allergies, it really will help to balance their body. it's really powerful when it comes to fighting inflammation and we know that's the root cause of so many different ailments uh but for honey and by the way quality raw honey will have trace amounts of propolis in it i think it's good to get more in your system yeah um but quality honey will will give you a little bit of that and i think i think taking a little bit of honey every day is really important i just be products that are so well tolerated there's not really a reason not to include them yeah the way that I try and explain it is it's probably today our best source of natural immunization in terms of on a daily basis you know we have sort of I wrote a book years ago called eat dirt and a basis of the book was how to heal leaky gut and autoimmune disease and in in that like we used to eat a lot of local foods we'd eat carrots from the ground and beets and produce and get honey and we're getting a lot of these different microbes from the soil and forms of even pollen things on the actual leaves like lettuces.

13:11And daily exposure of these helps our body then deal with the allergens we're going to have in the fall and the spring. But honey is actually even more powerful than vegetables and fruits for that reason. You know, you know this, so I'm preaching the choir, but there are over 200 different types of pollen within a lot of honey, just local honey. And so when you're getting that, it's like, again, you're building up an immunity to that local pollen. So so you're not gonna have it in the season. So if you're a person that has seasonal allergies, don't just wait until you're sick, take it then too, but take it year round to build up your immune system, go to your local farmer's market, get those fruits and vegetables.

13:48In addition, do raw local honey every day. And this is a reason I also like bee pollen. I'd love to hear your take on what is bee pollen? You described honey, you described propolis. Talk to us about bee pollen. So bee pollen is the main protein source for the hive. That is what the bees eat for their protein. Oh, it's their protein supplement. And it's really interesting because bee pollen actually has more protein per weight. It's per weight and it's small, but per weight than any animal source. So per weight, more protein density than beef, eggs, any animal source. It's an incredibly nutrient-dense food.

14:22It's really like a natural multivitamin, really high in broad spectrum vitamins and minerals, branch chain amino acids, super high in B vitamins. So people love taking bee pollen for the energy boost. But for bees, it's a daily part of their food. And it's literally they're collecting pollen from the plant itself, covering it with their enzymes. And so it's just a super powerful bioavailable vitamin shot for people. There's studies looking at pollen for how it increases endurance. So many people use it as a multivitamin and energy booster. More and more studies coming out about how it has hormone balancing effects for both men and women, which is really cool.

14:59But to your point about allergies, you're literally giving yourself a micro dose of the allergen itself. So and everybody else allergies are different. Some people pollen is way too strong. And I just say, start with propolis, start with honey. Pollen will be too much exposing yourself to the plant that might be an allergen for you. But for other people, it's life changing because they're building up that little tolerance to the thing that's causing them to have this reaction. Yeah. There are forms of immunotherapy today, like I'm not sure if you're familiar with like slit therapy and others where they're doing that's orally under the tongue.

15:34So they'll take whatever allergen there might be in your local area. And by the way, if somebody does have allergies, this is a great holistic form of treatment. So I'd recommend that you can do it sublingual, like under your tongue. They also can do it just right under the skin as a kind of little shot every, every, every few weeks. And that can work really powerfully as well. But bee pollen is similar in that way to where, again, you're getting that micro dose, building your immune system over time. It's really powerful. Sometimes people have questions about the sugar in honey. How does honey react in the body from a blood sugar standpoint, an insulin standpoint, compared to something like cane sugar, coconut sugar, and other forms of added sugar?

16:16I get this question all the time. And I am a low sugar person, but a high honey person. because honey does not spike insulin in the same way. It has a different reaction in the body. Our bodies tolerate it very, very well. Now, look, if you're eating huge quantities, I think you have to be moderate. And by the way, Solomon warns us of this. Proverbs says, eat honey, not too much, lest it make you sick. So again, that's a lot of wisdom there. So what does a serving look like that most people could tolerate? Tablespoon? I would say a teaspoon a day is plenty. Okay. For me, I take a teaspoon a day, I put it in my coffee, but I also use it in my baking.

16:57We don't use any refined sugar in our household. So when I'm baking something for my family, it's always honey. Yeah. Yeah. I love it. This morning I did, I love honeycomb. And so I do a lot of honeycomb. I mean, so this morning I did, I tend to do, I do a lot of protein. So I'll do like 40, 50 grams of my superfood smoothie. I'll put in a teaspoon of bee pollen in there. And then this morning I did cream of rice. I did this cream of brown rice. I like her oatmeal. And then I do a thing of, it's about a tablespoon of honeycomb. And that's fine. If you're doing it with the protein and the fats and all of that, that is totally fine.

17:30And I'm usually working out right after too. So I'm about to, I'm about to burn it. But I'm seeing so many pro athletes now using honey as a pre-workout and honey and a little bit of salt. It is a fantastic pre-workout. Put a little bee pollen in there to get those B vitamins. And bee pollen increases your blood huboglobin value. So it's a great way to oxygenate the tissues. And again, studies have totally shown that it increases your endurance. So in my house and my husband, he is a big road biker. He goes for like four or five hour rides. And so I make him a little shot with just a little bit of honey, a spray of propolis, a little bit of salt, a little pinch of bee pollen.

18:07And then he is like, good. I love it. I did the same thing. So I did triathlons throughout college, all through my 20s up until early 30s. and um and that was sort of my uh that you know a lot of times people use these um goo packs you know these i know today and they're listen they're probably better some of the brands were and there's actually a popular brand called stinger which yeah which they do honey but we know it's not the same as is what you're it's it's it's more my husband used to use those there's a lot of processed stuff in there and it's refined processed honey and they have additives and so and it's cheaper and it's better doing, I mean, it literally is the perfect workout supplement if you're doing honey with bee pollen with sea salt.

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19:29If you want to check it out and grab one before they're gone, just go to mybloodwork.com now. Wow. So what does your husband put it? So I will literally take a little shot glass and I mix a little bit of honey. They'll put like a tiny bit of water or something like that. Yeah. Pinch of pollen. By the way, for everybody who is used to taking any pre-workout, when they try this, people report back and they're like, oh my goodness, the difference. Because that pollen, you feel it. It really gives you an energy boost. And I think also, you know, to go back to honey and the sugar honey is not the same as just any kind of sugar there there are so many benefits in there it's antimicrobial it's full of antioxidants there's a little bit of fiber when you're getting when you're using quality raw honey there's a little bit of fiber coming from the pollen and trace amounts of propolis and other hive ingredients it's really well integrated by the body so your body just for me when i use that as a pre-workout i have so much energy i feel amazing.

20:32I notice a huge difference in my performance. Yeah, yeah, it's powerful. So again, swap out the other stuff, start using honey instead. It's a much, much better option. Let's talk about royal jelly. This is something I think that's really interesting. You know, I take care, I have a virtual practice and I take care of a lot of women with menopausal symptoms. So huge study. Yeah, it's came out. Yeah. Hot flashes, night sweats, mood, just skin getting dry, body getting dry, feeling older. And in Chinese medicine, they call this a yin deficiency. And we know in modern medicine today, it's estrogen and progesterone are starting to drop those hormones.

21:12And those hormones are known for cooling and moistening the body, which is why women will get hot flashes because their body now can't cool itself and moisten itself as well. Well, that's where royal jelly comes in. It's known as a yin tonic in Chinese medicine. But I'd love for you to share a little bit about what you know about the benefits of royal jelly. Royal jelly is incredible. So I'll start again explaining how it works in the hive. Royal jelly in the hive is colostrum. It is a secretion from the nurse bees. It's given to newborn baby bees for the first three to five days of life. And then they transition off to a more regular bee diet of honey and pollen.

21:49And the bee who's to become queen exclusively eats royal jelly. She maintains that diet her whole life. Wow. Now, if we just look at the biological differences for a queen bee versus a regular worker bee, queen bee will lay up to 1500 eggs a day, 1500 babies a day. A regular worker bee doesn't have reproductive organs. The queen bee lives three to five years. A regular worker bee will live six to eight weeks during foraging season. And the queen bee, if anyone just looks up a picture, or we have pictures all over everywhere on all of our social media. But if anyone looks up a picture of a queen bee versus a worker bee, the queen bee is much more robust.

22:26Oh, yeah. Athletic, like very, very different. And so the biological changes that royal jelly is creating in the beehive, that's exceptional. And again, the colostrum of the bees being royal jelly, like think about that nutrient density with the plants, with the bees just hitting thousands of plants all the time. So I love royal jelly. I love that you brought up menopause because there was a really large study. I think it was about 200 women and it was looking at all kinds of menopause symptoms, everything from hot flashes to mood stability. And I believe women were given, I think it was it was like 600 to 1000 milligrams of royal jelly daily for eight weeks.

23:03And at the end of those eight weeks, they scored better across all parameters that were studied. So virtually every symptom was decreased. So royal jelly is very, very important for women, very important for women as they're aging and just a tool that should be used. It can make it just it makes life so much easier. But there's also a lot of studies now looking at royal jelly and fertility. There was a study in rodents that found that royal jelly increases ovarian reserves and stimulates follicular growth. So for me, when before I started trying to have my little girl, my husband and I were both taking royal jelly.

23:39There's actually studies that show it improves the sperm quality for men as well. Yeah. So royal jelly is something that's really exciting in terms of hormonal balance, fertility, menopause. We're just in the early days of even understanding from a Western perspective how powerful it is. But, you know, in traditional Chinese medicine, it's been used for thousands of years to support fertility, support menopause, balance hormones. It's really cool. There's actually a fertility tonic combo in Chinese medicine. And it's ginseng combined with royal jelly. And it's a really, really popular combination.

24:14I remember going on a trip to China. And so, you know, we go to coffee bars. They would have these bars of like, it'd be green tea with ginseng with different forms of honey, like royal jelly in there. And so, yeah, it's amazing. And then, as you mentioned, I think, yeah, the queen bee lives around 40 times longer. I mean, think about the longevity benefits as well about royal jelly. And so anyone out there who's saying, okay, I need hormone balance, especially again, when I'm thinking about women, perimenopause, menopause, aging, if you have dryness, if you have issues related to, again, hot flashes, those things, royal jelly is an incredible supplement, fertility for both men and women, loads and loads of benefits there.

24:56And again, honey is one of those things where, I mean, it's so multifaceted in the benefits. And one thing I love that you've done such a good job of is just explaining sort of how how it's used by the bees and how we can benefit from it. I've talked about this very frequently with herbals, but this extends to honey as well as this sort of, both the sort of hormetic benefits, but also the benefits related to harnessing the therapeutic properties of that plant. And as an example of this, flowers have an attractive property. This is why women have worn them as perfume, right? They're attractive in nature.

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25:27So when you're putting on some that smells nice, it can attract men. When you are using something like ginseng or rhodiola rosea or eleuthero, these are roots. These are herbs that grow in the ground in really harsh environments like Siberia. So it makes you more resilient. And so in a very way, I love that you explained this sort of honey. You are harnessing the healing properties of that plant. The same thing it's going to benefit to be. It'll benefit our body in a very, very similar way. One thing I didn't mention about royal jelly that's really interesting, the studies on brain health. Royal jelly is so powerful for focus memory concentration.

26:04It's being studied for prevention of neurodegenerative conditions. It's cool because royal jelly contains these fatty acids that are only naturally occurring in royal jelly. They cannot be found naturally occurring anywhere else. They're called AMPN1 oxide and 10-HDA, and they basically stimulate neurogenesis. So they help your brain to create new fresh neurons. And I love using royal jelly just for focus memory concentration. I was taking some royal jelly before we started. I'd love to do that before we record. But it's fantastic for both sort of the short-term effect when you really need to be in the zone, but also for preventing neurodegenerative conditions.

26:43Yeah, that's so, so powerful. That's so interesting about the fatty acids. I think that there are, as you referenced, very unique. And we find this in other things as well. There's another fatty acid that's sort of become popularized today called C15. But there are a lot of fatty acids that aren't necessarily well known or popular, but do have tremendous benefits. And another category are peptides. I'm working on developing a line of peptides right now. And I had a back injury years ago and was told I would be permanently disabled. I'm not. I'm back to 100%. But a big part of my healing process was using very specific peptides.

27:20And so this has become a passion of mine. but I started doing a lot of research on what foods have the highest level of unique peptides. And so they sort of categorically, you've got amino acids, you've got proteins and peptides, and peptides tend to be that kind of in between aminos or tend to be two to 49 sort of chains of aminos. But they tend to support communication, cellular communication within the body and very good for cellular health. The number one animal product that is high in peptides are organ meats. Organ meats are incredibly high. And so if somebody has a heart issue, they should eat heart.

27:59If somebody has a liver issue, they should eat liver. But when I started looking at plants, what has the highest and other sort of animal based products, we know that colostrum, we have these in milk, in spirulina and chlorella, these algaes, which are actually forms of microbes are actually very high but then one of the other very very highest on the top 10 was honey um honey was very high in peptides predominantly in bee pollen and it royal jelly had some actually really really unique longevity peptides is full of longevity peptides yeah yeah yeah royal jelly i think we're in the early days of even understanding how powerful royal jelly is for longevity and again we can look at the biological effects in the beehive because it's it's pretty clear there But all bee products from propolis to royal jelly to honey, their chemical composition is so unique because they're hitting, the bees are hitting thousands of different plants to create these products.

28:57Propolis itself, the bees are hitting thousands of different trees, flowers, plants to collect the base ingredient. And so we're harnessing the power. And, you know, you're talking about resilience and what that creates in the body. We're harnessing the power of all these different plants that have survived different elements, bringing it back to the hive, mixing it with the live enzymes that the bees are creating that, again, are incredibly powerful. Bees have been around since prehistoric times. And so the peptide cocktail and the chemical composition of these different bee products coming from the hive, it is, I believe, one of the most powerful things you can do to just increase your body's resilience, increase your longevity.

29:39create more balance, bring your body back to homeostasis, especially in the world of today where we're exposed to so many chemicals, no matter how clean of a lifestyle we have. Generally speaking, honey is such a powerful form of medicine. I did read a study, though, that this is out of Texas A &M University, that said that 76 % of the honey people are buying today off the shelf isn't even truly honey. It is so processed, heated, and filtered that there is zero pollen and oftentimes zero of these benefits, all these beneficial factors we're talking about, they don't exist in the majority, more than 75%, 76 % of the honey today that everyone is buying is basically sugar.

30:20It's not real honey. I'm so happy you brought this up because it is a huge problem and people need to know what to look for. For one, pasteurization. Pasteurization, when you buy honey out of the squeezy bottle and it comes out all liquidy and it's got that picture perfect consistency that has been pasteurized and that's how you get that consistency because unpasteurized honey it will crystallize over time it will get hard you have to really use your muscles to get it out of that jar and you actually want that but you know the average person isn't aware of that and we were sold this concept of honey that it is squeezy and easy to spread on toast but you want honey that is unpasteurized or raw those are the two buzzwords you're looking for.

31:02And what what pasteurization is, is you're heating it, you're boiling it to such a high point that you're cooking out all of those incredible enzymes and vitamins and minerals and growth factors, and you're left with sugar water. So most of the honey on the market has been pasteurized. And a lot of the honey on the market is not pure honey. People are cutting it with corn syrup, agave, all kinds of things. So you really do have to pay attention to your sourcing and really know what to look for and always, always make sure it's raw and unpasteurized. One of the things I found for myself is, is that one, and let me just share, it's one of those things where like, I like putting it in my matcha in the morning, but I have to mix it really well because like it sinks to the bottom.

31:43I mean, you know, cause it's so funny because you will do that. Yeah. Cause growing up, I remember I used honey, which wasn't real honey and I would put it, you know, put it in something and it would just mix so easy. You know, it's like, I do a little spoon. It was almost like sugar and it was immediately blended. And then, you know, quite a long time ago when I started going to my local farmer's market, buying real honey, this stuff would just sink to the bottom. It's like, man, I got to sit here with my blend. You know, I actually have to throw in a blender or use one of those hand mixers. A spoon doesn't really do it very well in order to actually get it mixed.

32:14But that's one way, you know, if you're listening to this is you can actually take a cold glass of water and see, does it drop down and sort of clump down at the bottom? Or does it sort of start dispersing throughout? Or, you know, if you can stir it with a spoon just a few times and it mixes, that's, that's not real honey. It's not real honey. And, you know, depending on when the honey's harvested, it could be more melty. Great raw honey could be more melty if it was harvested maybe a month ago. But it depends on the floral source. It depends on when it's harvested. And you should see that over time, it hardens, it gets a little crusty.

32:49That is the natural process of crystallization and it's what you want to see. I mean, it's pretty amazing. You know, I did an episode about a year ago on the benefits of honey and I went kind of go through it, went through a lot of the history and it's amazing to look back and say, you know, when they opened up a lot of these tombs in Egypt, they found that there was one thing that remained and it was honey. I want to say maybe they've also found the other oldest thing to honey was like an an essential oil resin, but overall, nothing else survived except for honey. I mean, that's amazing to think about.

33:21The enzymes are so powerful. Even, you know, you think about that for digestion, or if you're, let's say you're traveling and I've had situations where everyone I'm with gets food poisoning except for me. And I swear it's because I've been using my problems all the time. So things like that, like these are things that are tools there. They can help with digestion. They can help to build up gut support. They can help to fight bacteria if you're exposed. But yeah, honey is the only food in the world that is nutritionally intact after thousands and thousands of years. So, you know, it's a testament to all of the different incredible benefits of honey.

33:57And something that's been really interesting as a parent, and I know you can relate to this, all of the studies showing that honey is just as effective as all of these over-the-counter cough syrup. Like why would we give our kids chemicals when honey does the trick? That's right. Yeah, absolutely agree. One of the really cool things about honey that I was excited about when I started reading a lot on more of the scientific literature is its ability to help balance moisture in areas. I had an injury years ago, and I tore off the tendon on my ankle, had to have it repaired. And so they had to go in and sort of cut part of my leg open, and it was going to leave a big scar.

34:34but I created this mixture and for 90 days it was honey mixed with calendula and a few essential oils like helichrysum and that's all I put on there I basically just left it covered like that for for three months and almost zero scar I mean somebody could look today and unless you're using like a mic it's almost impossible to see but almost anyone else that would have done that they would have had a major major scar there and so I started reading about how honey will push out too much moisture and bring in the exact right amount of moisture to allow scars or anything to heal at its optimal level.

35:08And so that's one of the reasons why it lasts so long is it actually can create the perfect amount of moisture in the area for itself to where it never goes bad. And this is really important for skin. I mean, think about the benefits for anti-aging longevity of skin. I put honey all over my face. I do a mask with honey and propolis. In Poland, in the burn ward they will use bandages with honey and propolis propolis for its antibacterial anti-inflammatory healing properties honey for its for also its healing properties it's it's moisture balance it's a humectant so many amazing applications for skincare but i do a honey propolis mask once a week and i swear by it i feel like it's just really changed my skin and the science is there there's a lot of studies as well looking at things like contact dermatitis psoriasis eczema these are powerful home remedies.

35:56My daughter, Arwen, when she was a one, she had cradle cap. And we tried actually a lot of the natural products on it. And it just was not going away. I put on Manuka honey. Boom. Three days later, like completely gone. It was just absolutely amazing. The growth factors in all of these different bee products are exceptional and have so many healing properties. You can take back control of your metabolism, your energy, and your hormones naturally. I've put together an in-depth practical training to help you balance your hormones using powerful foods, herbs, and natural lifestyle strategies that actually work.

36:38If you're ready to start feeling like yourself again, go to draxhormoneclass.com or click the link in the description to begin your healing journey today. That's draxhormoneclass.com to take back your health naturally. One of the things I love about natural products, I've written about this a lot over my career in terms of, hey, let's compare turmeric to ibuprofen, or let's compare oil of oregano to a broad spectrum antibiotic. So let's compare the effectiveness and the safety. And it's amazing to look at how herbs and food-based products that are superfoods, how they compare and they can typically perform equally, sometimes outperform, but then have zero side effects compared to the medication.

37:23In fact, I want to say one third of all medications today were developed from natural products, but then they were made synthetically. So they're going to have side effects and also lose some of the other beneficial qualities there. But honey is very similar. I know that there was a study recently that you quoted comparing honey to cough syrup. Yeah, it's so I love what you're speaking about, by the way, because I am obsessed with this. I am obsessed with what's in the pharmaceutical world, what in the medicine cabinet has been altered. And sure, maybe it's a bandaid solution here, but it creates all of these other issues.

37:58I have such a belief that anything we're putting in our body should only it should be a net positive, particularly when we're sick. So there was this big study and it was looking at upper pediatric respiratory infections. It was comparing buckwheat honey, which is a certain type of honey, to dextromethorphan. Dextromethorphan is the active ingredient used in most cough syrups. Most cough syrups you can find is either phenylephrine or dextromethorphan. This study found that buckwheat honey was just as effective, not slightly less, but with less side effects, straight up just as effective as dextromethorphan for treating upper pediatric respiratory infections.

38:35So when I read that, I was like, why would you ever give a kid dextromethorphan when honey does the trick? And it's natural and has all these other health benefits. And interestingly, phenylephrine, which is the other, these are two actives that are in Robitussin and Vicks and all of these conventional cough syrups that most of us grew up purchasing and thinking were helping us. Phenylephrine is now being recalled by the FDA because it doesn't even work. It's just a chemical. that does not help you. That's right. It's crazy. You know, I'm not going to go on my tangent here, but I could. But, you know, it does blow my mind that you've got something like berberine that is so effective for blood sugar, and yet metformin is still being prescribed, which depletes your body of numerous nutrients, right?

39:19Or statin drugs, when you could be taking, you know, a blend of things like coenzyme Q10 and garlic and omega-3s. Like, like there's one reason why that doesn't happen today. And it has to do with the pharmaceutical companies can make these drugs for pennies. Yeah. And then sell them and make, again, it's trillions of dollars in this industry. And so that's the only reason today why it's not mainstream is just the amount of money being poured into this. Such a big issue today. And I talk, I speak about this with physicians all the time, specifically about Propolis. Propolis has so much healing potential for so many different ailments.

39:58It's so well tolerated. It's something you can use every day to prevent and protect and support your body. So why doesn't the average person know about it? And it's because it's all natural. You can't patent something that's natural. That's right. You can take natural things and alter them and create a synthetic version and patent them and make billions of dollars. But with something natural, there's not as much money in it. And so the pharmaceutical companies don't go after it. and we're not made aware of it. And it's, you know, in the rest, other parts of the world, it's so deeply ingrained in the medical system.

40:31In Europe, everyone knows what propolis is. People use propolis their entire childhood. Whereas in the U.S., people just aren't aware. Yeah, my wife loves dogs. She and one of her friends are always talking about starting a, basically a dog island, you know, having dogs going, you know, adopting like all these dogs. Anyways, so, and I'm, I like dogs a lot. We've got two of them. and but she's above and beyond where I'm at, but I love dogs. But I love bees. Like when you do the research about, like we need bees to survive. It's crazy how important they are for our ecosystem. I spent so much time in regenerative agriculture and looking at how do we heal the planet?

41:11And from an animal standpoint, maybe the most important animal that we need to help proliferate in the world are bees. 100%. And one of the things that's happening due to the high pesticide content, the glyphosate, all these chemicals that are being sprayed everywhere. Our bees are dying in a lot of areas. Do you have any more, I guess, thoughts or information on that in terms of what's happening due to the pesticides in the bee population? So first of all, I've been working in pesticide regulation for over a decade. It is, I believe we're in a state of crisis and this is one of the most important things for human health going forward, the pesticides being used, not only are they deeply affecting the bees, and the bees pollinate one-third of our food supply, one-third of our food supply, and over 40 % of wildflowers rely on honeybees for pollination.

42:05So if we lose the bees, think about how that would affect our ecosystem. And the foods that we're losing are like fruit. The natural foods. I mean, literally, fruit is gone. Think about the inflation. Yeah. How much more expensive it becomes to eat your fruits and vegetables if we lose these creatures. And we're seeing that happen right now. So it's been really interesting as a beekeeper myself to see how the industry shifted. So I spend a lot of time focused on how to create regenerative, safe environments for bees because we need them. I work with them. It's essential for human life. And what I've seen over the years is because bees are dying, commercial pollination, which is a different industry, different from beekeeping, which is what I do.

42:53Commercial pollination is when you work as a beekeeper to manage your bees, but you truck them around to different farmers and crops. You let them loose to pollinate and then bring them back. And that industry has surged in the past several years because there's not enough local bees because so many of them are dying due to pesticides. and commercial pollination can actually be really hard on bees. It can be done properly. It can be managed really well. Oftentimes it's not. You're putting bees on a truck, bringing them over to this farm, covered in pesticides with a monocrop, a single type of plant, letting them loose to pollinate.

43:26The bees are getting all kinds of exposure to pesticides. They lose out on having a varied diet and lose out on that biodiversity. And then also the stress of transferring them, even though you can transfer bees safely and humans have been doing it for a long time. There's evidence that bees were sent down the Nile in a little boat. So you can do it, but the way it's being done today, specifically with the pesticide exposure, is so problematic. So a lot of what I do in my work as a beekeeper is I work with people to figure out regenerative ways. How can we create a habitat for bees where they're not getting exposed to those pesticides?

44:03How can we create more biodiversity, whether it's through margin planting, which is just planting different varied wildflowers in the margins of big agro crops. But really, how can we spray less? Because the pesticides today, it's terrible. I mean, most people living in America today have pesticide in their blood and urine. Children have. Oh, it's like 99%. It's incredibly high. Yeah, incredibly high. And we've seen a spike over the years in autoimmune, in digestive issues. And we've seen that spike move up with the use of glyphosates going up. And it's crazy because we're right now in this state of affairs where regulators are looking at things in a way that's very profit driven.

44:46And the truth is when these things are being tested, usually each chemical is tested in isolation. They're not looking at the cocktail effect. And we are exposed to the cocktail effect. We are getting pesticides in our water. We're getting pesticides in our food. We're breathing it in in the air or dust particles. it's really important to protect yourself and to also be aware of what's happening and advocate. Yeah. The CDC now estimates that one in every three adults has pre-diabetes. The signs are there long before a diagnosis. Things like constant fatigue, stubborn belly fat, sugar cravings, brain fog, frequent urination, and increased thirst.

45:28And these are all symptoms of insulin resistance, the root cause behind most cases of type 2 diabetes. Now, here's the good news. This condition is completely reversible with the right diet, lifestyle, and healing herbs. And if you or someone you love is struggling with blood sugar issues, head over to DrAxeDiabetesClass.com to watch a free training on how to naturally balance your blood sugar and reverse your symptoms. That's DrAxeDiabetesClass.com to take back control of your health today. Pesticides, I mean, they're so prevalent in our world right now, and it's never been more important that we take control and take care of our health.

46:14So the things I'm always telling people to do, check your water source, reverse osmosis water. So important. Purchasing organic. I know it's more expensive, but it is a really important health choice for your family. Your air, if you can do air filtration, that's really important as well. And then supporting people who are working in regenerative beekeeping. That's the best thing you can do for the bees. Sometimes I see vegans and they're like, we don't want to use bee products. And I'm like, well, are you eating blueberries or almonds? because commercial pollination was used to grow those things.

46:47So if you really want to support the bees, working with companies or supporting companies, or it can be at your local farmer's market, but finding people that are working in regenerative beekeeping, working with the bees in a way where they can eliminate pesticide exposure, increase biodiversity, and support their health and longevity. One thing we're going to see in the future is not just organic. We're going to see regenerative organic certified on labels. And this is something to wear again. Do everything you can, as Carly's saying. Shop your local farmer's market, but support regenerative, regenerative, regenerative.

47:18It's going to help heal the bees, heal the planet, allow you to have more nutrients in your food. It's going to build back the soil, help the environment. It's being good stewards. And I couldn't agree more. One of the last things I want to talk about, and this is so fascinating, is bee venom therapy. Bee venom therapy is so exciting. I was having a conversation with someone the other day and I was actually comparing bee venom to Ozempic. So Ozempic, which is super popular now, it's helped a lot of people with diabetes, all kinds of things. The origin, what inspired that product was the hula lizard, the hula monster, I think it's called, or huli.

48:00It's a type of lizard that has a venom. And that is what was sort of the inspiration for Ozempic. And I think bee venom in the next decade or so, it is going to inspire a whole new generation of cancer drugs. I think bee venom has the ability to heal so many different issues. Bee venom is really interesting. It contains this compound called melatonin. And melatonin has been shown to attack cancer cells. It's been showed with late stage breast cancer to attack the cells. We're in the early days of the science. These are test tube studies, not broad human trials. but it is very, very exciting. And then applications with Lyme disease too.

48:41Bee venom can attack the biofilms and break through the biofilms and attack the bacteria that causes all the symptoms for Lyme disease. So there's more and more coming out about bee venom and I think it's just so exciting. Yeah, I read this study a few months back on bee venom for cancer and the anti-cancer properties and it's really powerful. You know, I had a friend of mine who was sort of a, what would I call him? A sort of an adventure sports nut and did all kinds of adventure sports, but always injuring himself with doing this. And he had bees that he had raised and he basically just anytime he had an injury, he went and did a series of like typically three times over the course of a few weeks and he would just sting himself.

49:26And so like he had, you know, and he's like, I had wrist pain for years. He's like, I literally had this pain where I couldn't do pushups. I couldn't do anything for years. and I did bee venom therapy a few times on my wrist and I've not had pain since. People are using bee venom therapy for all kinds of pain, joint issues. Yeah, it's really exciting. It's like the original regenerative medicine. Yeah, I get stung by bees all the time just doing what I do. Yeah, as an aporist, sure. So every single time that happens, I'm kind of like, ooh, that hurts. But I'm getting some really great health benefits.

49:59But yeah, it's really exciting. And I think, again, with whether it's bee venom or propolis or royal jelly, where we've been using these different things for thousands of years. But I feel like science is now really turning attention to this world of bee based medicines. And I think we're just going to learn so much more about it and see so much more potential. Yeah, I love it. You know, one of the things that I'm excited about proactive about is we've got Jordan Rubin and I own a lot of farmland. And we own 4000 acres in Missouri and another 150 in Tennessee here in our Tennessee farm. We all we have a lot of bees.

50:34So so we raise bees on and but I'm also getting a homestead like we're building a home right now in Nashville, Chelsea and I. And we bought 10 acres. And so we're going to do a couple mini cows. We're going to do a smaller because zebu. We're going to do sheep. We're doing ducks and chickens. And we're also going to do honeybees. And so I actually had a honey, a local aparis expert who is going to help us with that. And but I'm excited just just to raise like our girls around it and for them, you know, to put on the suits and go out there and and, you know, care for the bees and get our local, you know, and get our honey from the hive and all that.

51:11And yeah, I'm excited. There were so many people, especially through COVID, that started saying, you know what? We've become so separate from nature and understanding that you just feel better in nature. I mean, think about when we vacation. It's like, okay, going to the beach, going up in the mountains, going in a lake, putting your feet on the bare ground. There's something healing about it. And that very same way, honey is incredibly healing. Again, it's nature's medicine. it's been used for thousands of years in the most ancient form of medicine. Modern science today is investigating the benefits around it, fighting cancer.

51:46You know, when we're talking about venom or propolis, some of these amazing superfoods. So honey is it's really incredible. And I want to encourage everybody again. It's really simple. Just add honey into your local into your diet. Make sure it's real honey, though. You know, go to your local farmer's market and get some honey. go out there and get some good quality honey products or bee products like propolis, royal jelly, bee pollen, depending on what your goals are, maybe a honey with MGO. But there are so, so many benefits of honey as nature's medicine for longevity, for cancer, for immunomodulation, for autoimmune disease, for fighting viruses, things like COVID, all of these different conditions, honey is beneficial for.

52:29And it's beneficial for everything from one years old up to past 100. And that's so unique even compared to herbals and a lot of other things out there. And so Carly, thanks so much for coming on today and sharing about the amazing benefits of honey. Also, thanks so much for all the great work you're doing. Thank you so much for having me. And let people know where they can find you on social media and - Yeah, so beekeepers underscore naturals. We have all kinds of info about everything we're working on there. My Instagram is carly.kremer. You can find me on TikTok at Carly the Beekeeper. And yeah, we love to hear from you.

53:04So if anyone has any questions about honey, propolis, bees, regenerative farming, pesticides, please reach out. Awesome. Well, hey, thanks for watching, everyone. And hey, if you're watching on YouTube, we'd love to hear from you. What is your biggest takeaway from some of the wisdom that Carly shared today? Do you use honey? Have you ever used propolis or royal jelly or bee pollen? We'd love to hear if you've ever also used honey and seen results in your body. I also want to say thanks so much for tuning in here to the Dr. Josh Jack Show. So remember each and every week we're diving deep into the science of principles of how you can heal physically, mentally, and spiritually.

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