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25:38But that should be a, that's a good thing to try to do. Do your best to take it easy. Yeah. All right. Next question. What are your thoughts on homeschooling your kids? Is that something you're considering? I think homeschooling is always something we're considering. I think every year, I think that's something I want a purpose to do is every year reevaluate where we're at, where our kids are at, what the environment is. I think there's so many variables that go into it. I think homeschooling is incredible. I think it's an amazing thing. I love being able to have that time with your kids that you're not, you know, giving to other things and places that you can have back with them, being able to choose how you're pouring into them, what, um, but every kid is different.

26:20Every situation is different. and so I think it depends I think right now Arwen is in preschool right four days a week for four hours each time and she loves it she is amazing she loves being with other kids she loves having a teacher outside of us she's in the stage right now where she does not love us educating her giving her any instruction so having somebody on the outside it's great and she loves it too. Like she's really takes instruction from them so well and she loves being under their wing with that kind of a thing. So like right now I feel like even if we were to like I want to homeschool and that was like super heavily on my heart for her it wouldn't be the best situation for her in this scenario.

27:07Next year, you know, we'll reevaluate again. Yeah. Yeah, I think our take is very much it depends on the child. Like for us again we are huge homeschooling fans, huge. We've got a lot of friends at homeschool. But I think for us and our daughter, like we, you know, and in Nashville, there are some amazing Christian schools too. So right now we have our school called Mustard Seed and love that. But I think for us, we just really love,

27:35for our oldest, it's such a fit for her being at this school. Her teachers are amazing, super supportive. She has a lot of friends. She loves that. And we still get a lot of time with her. So, so that's good with Aylan. We'll see, uh, obviously over time, but yeah, I think, you know, I think, so I went to a Christian school through eighth grade and then went to a public high school. And I think for me, it was really great. I mean, I had a 10 out of 10 experience and I went to Troy Christian high school in Ohio, or I went to Troy Christian school in Ohio and had just so many teachers that really loved me, that cared for me.

28:08I built lifelong friendships there. Some, some of the, I'm still friends with some people I went to preschool with. I mean, it's crazy. So I had an amazing experience. But even when I went to high school, my parents made sure I was very plugged into things like youth group. So, you know, we went to church on Sunday, then Sunday school. Then I had Wednesday nights. I was going on mission trips, you know, very active. So I think if you go to a public school, that can be fine, too. But as a parent, you've got to be, I think, very, very intentional with all your kids. It's not just about the school system, educating them and training them up in the way you should go.

28:41So we have to do that as parents first and foremost in supporting the teachers in the school. Yeah. Yeah. What is it? You're, you're the person, you're the average of people that you're around most. Right. Yeah. So that would include teachers. That would include the peers. So you had to look at like, how are the other kids in the class being parented? Right. Because those behaviors and those principles are rubbing off on your kid. So obviously school and everything should be supplemental, but that doesn't negate the fact that it is helping to average out who your kid is becoming. Yeah. Right. So it is important that you look at it and it's like, well, it's just for this many hours.

29:15It is. But that still is a piece that's being poured into your kid and that will help to determine, you know, who they're going to be and what they're going to believe. And yeah, so it's important. Yeah. I don't think a lot of people realize that. Like if your kids are in daycare or a certain school or have a certain even coach, like if they're spending, if that's one of the five people they're spending the most time with or one of the top 10 people, that's a person that's really rubbing off on them in a major way. And is that what you want versus yourself or someone else that's virtuous that you're spending time with?

29:44So, I mean, it's such an excellent point for people to really, really, really think about. Yeah. I think so often we think about that for ourselves. We don't necessarily think about that in terms of our kids. Like, who are the five people that my kids spend the most time with? And then thinking about those people and who are the people that those, like, if it's a friend, well, what are their parents like? Because their parents are the ones that are dictating the kid, right? Well, I remember growing up, my parents saying things like, you know, trying to dictate who I've spent time with. And I remember not loving that.

30:14Sure. A few times, but now I'm. Thankful. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Another question we just had. This is, of course, the most controversial question. Of course. I could guess. Did we choose to vaccinate our kids or will we? Did we choose to vaccinate? No, we did not vaccinate our kids. No, we chose not to. And the biggest reason is, is that it's, it's a sort of, I think it's this biblical idea that Jesus said, by your fruits, you'll recognize them or by the results, I buy their health. It's this thing like, like see the fruits of their lives. And when I think about the healthiest people that I know, it tends to be people that are in functional medicine, chiropractors, naturopaths, like those families that are into natural health.

30:59Like everyone from Jack LaLanne, a lot of people don't realize like he was a chiropractor. He was in natural health people people that lived a long, healthy life, all of those people that I know, or at least 98 % of them, chose not to do vaccines. The healthiest people I know physically that have the longest lifespans, best health. You even look at the Amish and some of their, they don't have some of these chronic illnesses and all the allergies and things today. And so when I look at that, those families do that the least amount. And then after that, It's the people that do a spread out schedule are the most thoughtful about it.

31:35In terms of what I've seen and what we've both seen, and we've both talked about this quite often. So I think for both you and I, we're just very, very aware of looking at the fruit of people's lives and saying, okay, if I want to have that sort of success in my health, in my wealth, in my faith, that's the person I want to model. I know that we've done this even in our spiritual life. We've looked at certain people and said, okay, this might be a well-known pastor, but like how's their marriage like like how is it really behind the scenes with them and trying to and then allowing those those types of people to help lead and guide us in our in our own faith the cdc now estimates that one in every three adults has pre-diabetes the signs are there long before a diagnosis things like constant fatigue stubborn belly fat sugar cravings brain fog, frequent urination, and increased thirst.

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33:16How did you start making sourdough bread? And then what are some of the other sourdough sort of recipes that you've been making? Come from them. How did I get into it? It was Carrie Underwood, right? You saw her post and you reached out to her? No. No, that was, I think we connected on it because I saw that she was doing it too. And I was, I had just started. Oh, you'd both started about the same time. Yeah. I think so. Or at least I saw she'd been doing it. So I connected with her on that. But I went and got a starter from like a bread company that I knew that their starter had been like around for a long time, which means, you know, lots of good bacteria in there, lots of microbes, lots of differentiation there, which is good.

33:54You want to get a healthy starter like that. And then I just kind of started playing around with a couple recipes, essentially, that I found on the Internet. And I love the fact of being able to obviously control what goes into the bread. If you look at the ingredients on store-bought bread, all the different things. So I was like, I'm going to give this a shot. Obviously, we know that there's better bacteria, and it's fermented, so it's easier to digest and good enzymes and all the things. And then obviously controlling the flour. So making, and then you have the taste, which you compare it to store-bought.

34:25It's just not comparable. It's so good. We've got a combination. I mean, Ballerina Farmers, right? Some of their flour. Yeah. Yeah, organic flour. And then we've done some einkorn, some of the ancient einkorn wheat, which with butter is amazing, grass-fed butter. but next step is milling our own you know it's like yeah it is the next step which i have not done that yet that is on the list at some point we will do that my friend does it cory does it oh yeah so amazing well next step up to do that but yeah we've done that we've and then once you have like a good starter and you have that base we've done what we've done we've done english muffins for like our pizza nights we make our own now sourdough crust for pizzas we've done bagels Yeah.

35:03We have done muffins, little bite-sized muffins we do. Yeah, pancakes and waffles, cookies. Sourdough everything. Sourdough everything. That's great. You know, what a lot of people don't realize is sourdough is it kills off something called phytic acid. So now you can absorb all the B vitamins, all the nutrients, all the minerals in there. And again, when we read about bread today, it's got such a bad rap versus when you read in the Bible. You know, Jordan and I, we wrote on this in the Biblio Diet is just getting into like, it's so much more nutrient dense doing it the ancient way that we've talked about.

35:37And so I think that way bread can be, I don't think it should be a main staple of some people's diet if you've got maybe a chronic inflammatory condition. But I think for a lot of people and for kids, and if you're generally healthy, it can be a big staple. We know it's one of the top foods along with red meat that Solomon ate, that Jesus ate. so so I think for a lot of people they could benefit from doing but there's a big difference between doing real sourdough you make it home or you buy from like a local bakery that specializes in it versus versus others but I think even Whole Foods I think one of the brands has I can't remember the name um has a little bit of yellow on the label it's in the frozen bread section but there's a sourdough spell so so people can get it in different places but it's been a um I know we've loved doing it as a family and fun the girls love like getting it and making it too and it's been a good like jumping off point to like educate the girls too on helping know what's in our food and different ingredients and yeah things like that too so like you know arwin asked well why are we doing this instead of buying it's like well and being able to use that to teach and about the different ingredients and what's healthy and not and then also balance too so yeah so some people know not a lot of people know we are building out our own homestead we bought 10 acres and so we're going to have a large barn a big pond of a lot of animals we're gonna have ducks chickens cow cows a couple a couple of sort of mini cows we might do a mini zebu and uh for a two milk and then uh we may do sheep as well maybe goats but what are you most excited about with us building our own mini mini farm here in nashville i'm so excited to make my own cottage cheese and butter yeah yeah butter like fresh milled butter like in sourdough like yeah it's gonna be fun so good so i i tell our daughter every night this is her favorite story i i i tell her about our farm.

37:21You're going to sleep story. Yeah. Or you're going to sleep story. So my five year old, I'm putting her to sleep at night. And so I say, you know, we drive down a long driveway and then we walk into a green house. But you do it in a certain voice. Like do the voice. Like the very melodic voice. Let me see if I can, I can do it. To like put her to sleep while she listens. And we drive down a really long driveway and then we go into the house and mommy says, I need some eggs and I need some fruit and I need some honey and milk to make breakfast. and so Arwen and I grab a bucket and a basket and we walk down a little stone path into the garden and we grab broccoli and cauliflower and squash and zucchini.

37:59Then we go to the fruit tree orchard and we grab apples and pears and plums and cherries. Then we go to the berry bushes. We get blackberries, raspberries, strawberries. Then we go to the cows and we milk the cows and fill the bucket with milk. So it has to keep going. And then we go to the duck eggs and they're all different colors. We've got red, we've got green. And so her and I go through this whole thing at night together. And then by the end, she just, you know, she passes out as we go through sort of this, you know, vision of this future farm that we'll have. It's taken longer than we want.

38:28It'll probably be another year and a half, two years. But we're so excited. I mean, so, so excited to be able to do that and have the girls just sort of get their hands dirty on the farm and be able to experience that growing up. And of course, there's major health benefits. I mean, you look at the studies around. Eat dirt. Yeah, eat dirt. I wrote a whole book on this years ago. So loads and loads of benefits. And we saw this more and more people moving out in the country, getting more land. We have so many friends now that just decided, hey, I don't have a lot of land, but I have enough where I can do chickens in a home garden.

38:57Oh, yeah. You know, so there's, man, so many. We tempted our home garden this year, and we have a lot to learn. But this was the best one we'd done. Here's the problem. We got overeager. So where you're supposed to plant one tomato plant, we planted four or five. Like in that, yeah. And they just, it was, they didn't get enough sun. And so now the tomatoes we had were amazing. Yeah, we still got fruit. And a lot of the cucumber, the zucchini, we got a lot. We planted way too many seeds close together. So we'll follow the directions next year. Actual protocols, yeah. So what does your vitamin and supplement regimen look like for the most part?

39:31Like over the past five years, what are maybe your top five non-negotiables go-tos you always take a supplement? Or it could be your top seven. But what are some of your top? top would be in the morning I either do bone broth protein or stem cell protein and a collagen like mix in that's like my non-negotiable you were making fun of me the other day just because of how predictable I am in the morning like with my routine and like you're very routined yeah I'm very routine but at the same time like that's you know it's good thing you have your baseline especially when it's like healthy it's like your staple um so I would start my day with that that's the very first thing I do in the morning it's like I need to get my protein in and that's before I I'm able to do coffee before I have any like a carb or anything like that it's like proteins my foundation um so that's definitely one probiotics yeah definitely make sure I get some probiotics in there um probably magnesium I feel like that's been a big staple in keeping that in um I feel like for recovery wise sleeping I notice a big difference and just making sure magnesium is a consistent part of my diet.

40:38After that, I'm consistently doing what? A greens powder probably. Yeah, you've done a greens really consistently. I'd say turmeric. Yep, I do turmeric a lot. You're right. For anti-inflammatory, just especially with the way for fitness and working out. I definitely keep turmeric in my diet. And then you've done a fish oil. Yep. I wish I liked salmon. I really don't like salmon. Yeah. I'm consuming it. You try and get other fish. But yeah, you don't, I eat so much salmon. Yeah. I wish I liked it. I've tried so hard. So because of that, I've tried to stay really consistent with my omega-3 supplements and just because I know I don't get it a ton in my diet.

41:14And then you've been taking a mitochondrial supplement. You said you really noticed a difference with that. Mm-hmm. Yeah. Huge difference energy-wise, recovery-wise. Yeah. Yeah, with my Oura Ring. And even if like my sleep isn't great, I still, like my readiness score, my recovery is still so good every day, which has been awesome. Yeah. Those are probably your top seven, I would say that you've done really, really consistently over the past. Like my staples. I feel like that regardless of like what changes in life, those are still like my part of like my baseline. Yeah. Yeah. And mine are pretty similar.

41:43I mean, I do a little bit more and you do an organs and glandular sometime too. That might be the other thing. If there's an eighth on occasion that you do. And multi, obviously that's the obvious part of it, but yeah. Yeah. I do the organ blend. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. And my, my, my regimen is pretty similar. I probably do a little bit more like in the morning. I know we have our routines. You do your coffee. I do my matcha most mornings there as well. And so that's a routine. But for most mornings, we're doing like a superfood smoothie, either like sweet potato or some blueberries, water, loads of protein, again, 20 grams of a collagen or bone broth or stem cell.

42:15That's like that type of protein, along with another 20 or 30 grams of a plant protein. So we're getting like 20 grams of a collagen and another 30 plus grams of a plant based protein or eggs, something like that a very high protein and then same thing protein and more protein i think that's one of the bigger things that women probably are missing is that they probably need more protein and a lot of people in their diets absolutely so critical for metabolism for blood sugar for everything and so um that would probably be one of the that's probably been the biggest staple in our diet is getting lots of that yeah um and our diet over the past few years all right how has having kids changed your relationship with God or your view on God?

42:56Oh man, drastically. But like how? I would say in the beginning of like having kids, I remember spending some time with God and just being like, okay, like I know I want kids and I want this like further down, but it's always like am I ready? Like is now the time? It's, you know, kind of wrestling with that back and forth and like okay I'm gonna do it like we're gonna do this and I remember just being like okay God like I need you to meet me in this for doing it and I just remember him like so gently just being like this is gonna be a fast track almost of like you and me being like in our relationship if you jump on this and you do this having kids will be a fast track and you like in our just become like you knowing my heart essentially and it was so true i just remember with arwen man it just wrecks you the amount of love you have for it and i talked about there's so many things i just remember with arwen she was little um i think i've told you this story before just holding her one night and rocking her and i'm just like man are i will always choose you i'm to cry that emotional um and i just remember like i hope you choose me back like i'm just thinking like god is like that yeah you know like he just wants us to choose him just that simple baseline of just pick me back i mean oh yeah it's so simple but so profound when you feel it so deeply oh um what else another example oh arwin for like discipline things like that man it's hard to discipline her and it's not because like it's just hard to discipline it's because like my heart is so like i want her to like have everything she wants so to like be like yeah we can't have dessert tonight because this is a consequence for whatever it's like i so badly want to give her like everything in her pantry that's dessert.

44:58Like literally that is my heart. But I know that that will not help her to step into and like become who she's meant to be. But like seeing that as like the heart of God and like he's, he doesn't want to give consequences. It's not his heart to bring like discipline and judgment and all these things. It's, I love you so much. And it's hard. It's hard for me to see like this on you, where you have to walk through this because that's not my heart for you. Like my heart is that you would do it right the first time and you get to step into everything, you know, all the blessings and everything like that.

45:30So just like even those two little examples of just, man, it's shown me such a different side that you think, you know, like, you know, God is a father, you know, like that he loves you and he's a good dad. And like, you think, you know that, but until you step into as a parent, that deep connection with your kid of, man, I love them so much. It's more than you can logically think or comprehend. It doesn't even make sense. You think you know until you walk through it. It's just different. Yeah. Yeah. I remember we were on a golf cart. You might remember this. We were in Watercolor 38 Florida with Sean and Andrew East.

46:09And Andrew actually asked us that question. I remember you sharing this, something very similar when he had asked that. And we all kind of talked about that as parents. And I think for me, it's very similar. But for me, very specifically, it is when I think about how much I love our daughters, and thinking that God loves us even more. I mean, it's amazing, because it's like, when you have kids, like, you would do anything for them, even giving your life for them. I mean, you would do anything in order for them to be blessed and have fun and to grow and all those things. And so, and I think for me, that was, I already had a sense of a really deep intimate relationship with God, but I think it brought it at a whole nother level deeper because just thinking about, okay, like God is always working out things for our good.

46:59He's never withholding out of punishment. He's only withholding because to help us grow, to help us become more like him, to have us have more joy and a more abundant life. And so to just think that God loves us so much, he never stops thinking about us. He knows us to with the very hair on our head. He is always like, like when we're sad, he's sad, like to think about and know that God's love is so deep in that way. Again, beyond even what we love our own kids, it really sort of changes our view of God. I think a lot of people have this view of God that he's sort of like angry in the distance or he doesn't care.

47:33He's aloof versus knowing that you've got a God that loves you so much, who wants a relationship with you. And to your point, we have to chew him, choose him back and pursue him back in that same, we have to, we have to choose him and we have to pursue him, uh, as well. And he'll meet us every time. He'll meet us every time. Um, it's a different level of trust too. Like it's an, it's an level of opportunity, I would say, um, brings different opportunities for that. I know a friend of mine, we were just, she had an episode with her daughter at school, um, where she needed a miracle, like for a different, um, like a spot to open up at the school and it did and for her daughter and I just it was so cool just being able to see like talk to her through it and then after and be like and just see like you know trusting God for something in your life is one thing but then trusting him to meet your kid outside of you is a totally different level of trust because like I want to step in and make it happen for my kid but can you let go and trust that God's going to meet them yeah it's just it's it's a totally different thing.

48:36And so to be able to see God show up on behalf of your kids, like, because he loves them and it's not, you know, outside of just your relationship with him. And that's a whole nother level of trust too. Again, like you were saying, cause I, you know, I love our kids so much. Like, it's hard. It's this combination of you, you've got to seek and knock and find and go after and pray earnestly sometimes, but also take your hands off the wheel sometimes. Now, sometimes you need to go after it too in a different way. But sometimes you just need to just surrender. Yeah, I mean, these are amazing lessons we've been able to learn as parents.

49:11And so I do think being parents has allowed us to grow deeper and more intimate in our relationship with God. And I think everyone can do that if you really kind of get in that spot of thinking. And for not everybody, listen, we had amazing parents. I'll say that. I mean, your mom and your dad are extraordinary. My mom and dad are amazing. And so we had parents who did everything they could to pour into us and to love us. Not everybody has that. So I think some people don't maybe have that same reference point for what God's like if you didn't have a really virtuous parent or if you didn't have a parent there.

49:45And so I think trying to find that equivalent and knowing God is more is a powerful thing. I think that also leads us into, we had a question here about marriage. And it's another thing. It's so funny. I think about some of those interesting questions we've ever had again andrew east and sean um they're uh you know we were in la at that restaurant and andrew asked like what's your most difficult and we literally got that question i don't know why every why does everyone always want to know what are your deepest problems that you've ever had it's like what is the biggest disagreement you've ever had or something out of the blue and it's always you know you find the biggest one it's something that like you've compromised on but it's not i mean it's resolved but it's like you could still like yeah you know kind of go at it still was.

50:27So everyone at the table was just kind of, it was just funny. Oh yeah. Yeah. So, so I, so like, let me, I'll answer it. So, so what's the, what's the, what's the question everybody wants to know? Disagreement or. Yeah. So, so the question here is, what is something you and Josh have disagreed on in your faith and how did you work through it? I can answer this or you can, you let me know. I want to hear your answer, but I have, I think I have an answer too. Yeah. So here's what I would say. So Chelsea and I, honestly, our biggest disagreement in our entire marriage came like six months in. I mean, it was our first year marriage and it was around, this is a very theological thing, but like, should you take a day of rest or not?

51:13A Sabbath? Is it a sin? That's what it was on. We're going to still get to disagree right now. No, and I've never believed it was a sin ever. But what I believed was is that I actually my belief is and I've always brought this up. It's very much in a line with should you eat pork or shellfish or those sort of things in the Bible is that should you or shouldn't you? Well, I believe you always should take a Sabbath. That was my belief. You should always take a Sabbath. It's not necessarily has to be a sin to or not to, but you should. And the reason I did is that not only in the, my point was, it's talked about in the Ten Commandments, but also God took a day of rest all the way starting in Genesis.

51:55So I really believe that Chelsea and I should both take a Sabbath. And I really tried to, I would say, pressure you into doing that as I did. And I think that created a lot of tension. in, it was very, very tense because I feel like I was trying to control the situation and say, no, we really need to take this day. And I think for you, it was more every day could be seen as being a Sabbath. I mean, I'll let you share in your own words or thoughts, kind of what that was. And then I can share how we work through it. But I'll just say, here's how we work through it. One, we went to Wise Counsel. We went to your cousin, Pete Sulak, and then he actually had a pastor in Knoxville, I remember, who we got on the phone with.

52:39And we talked it out with, with a pastor. And we said, you know what? That makes sense. We understand what you're sharing, your viewpoints on this. And even though I don't know that we agreed 100 % theologically on the idea, I think we both realized, and here's what I know about Chelsea and where I needed to get to as well was Chelsea loves God so much. she cares so much. If we think primarily of, uh, of religion as a relationship and building the number, the, the one thing, the biggest thing we want to do is build a deep intimate relationship with Jesus and become more like him and spread his kingdom.

53:22Well then again, I think that that's where Chelsea's heart is. And so in Chelsea and I are very much like this, like we, we, we, we are very much in alignment on where we want to get, where we want to get our kids, where we want to be ourselves, thinking eternally, raising up kids that are Christ-like. We're both there, but we tend to would often take maybe different paths on how we would get there. That's what I would say. I actually, and I wouldn't even call it a disagreement, but I would say our continual disagreement in marriage has been is that we both have the same destination, but the way we both get there is very different.

53:57Like for me, I'm probably much more structured and logical on let's strategize every step and plan out every moment to get to the point. And you want to create a little bit more freedom and looseness. I'm like an outline person. Yeah. And hey, let's have a general outline, but I don't want to plan every step. I want to kind of have like this, you know, I want a room for freedom and flow as we go to end up there. And that's kind of the. Yeah. So I would say in our, in our Christian walk, whatever, you're very much more like you said this in the very beginning, like you are so you're a learner you love to learn like the hebrew and the greek and let's break this down what does the bible say and like how does that relate to like historically what is the context what are all these things and then that's how you learn and that's how you communicate yeah and i'm much more like i had a dream from god last night and i have this word and um i felt this the spirit of god was saying this when i was praising and worshiping the other day and things like that which neither are wrong and you need both right he's it's the worship in spirit and truth right it's a balance of both, but in balance that they're still different.

55:01So finding a way to be able to meet and connect in those two things has been, I would say not a disagreement necessarily where we've been like disagreed, but it's been more where we've had to work and be super intentional about connecting in that area. And I think the other thing though, is like, if we embrace it with the mind of Christ, it allows us to grow more because like, I need more of that free flowing, free spiritedness in me and maybe, you know, in elements, my structure and planning and strategy is helpful for you. But I know for me, I've grown in my faith tremendously because you've really helped me.

55:36Like now, because of you, I spend more time in silence and stillness. I spend more time in prayer and adoration because of you. So being married to you has strengthened my faith in just such an amazing way. And that's what a marriage should be. It's iron sharpens iron. The two become one. I mean, And, you know, it's oftentimes opposites attract and opposite those opposite gifts, if you allow it to, will help you to grow. I think what happens in a lot of marriages is you could start to see that person being different as you and it could lead to resentment or thinking they're not doing it the right way.

56:10and sort of you get on opposing sides versus saying their difference allows me to, and I appreciate that difference, allows us to be better together and fill each other's holes and allowing us to be one. Yeah. Stronger. You fill each other's weaknesses. Synergy. And essentially that's what it is, right? It's not just strength in one area. It's both. You come together and it's better together. And I think it's what you said earlier. It's iron sharpens iron. But I think we throw that term around so loosely. It's iron sharpens iron. and you're sharper and better because of it. But think of the process of it.

56:43Again, it's like refinement. Refinement hurts when you're in the fire, when you're being refined, when your iron sharpens iron, like that does not feel good. It's a conflict. It's a hitting them together. It can feel like a disagreement. But in the end, if you toughen through it, you're sharper, right? You're more refined in the end because of the refinement. So that's what it is. I think it's so much of its perspective and it's hard in the moment when it feels like it is a disagreement, even though it's not, it can feel like it. Yeah. So it's about maintaining like the big picture. And again, coming back to the foundation of they love God.

57:19They love Jesus. They love me. Yeah. Like we're in the same team. And I think keeping that mindset is super important when talking through these types of things. Yeah. Do you have unexplainable illness, hormone dysfunction, weight loss, resistance, brain fog, and you're tired of being dismissed when you know something isn't right. Well, get my at-home testing of targeted biomarkers, including hormones, thyroid, and metabolism, plus a full hour with one of my senior health advisors to help you understand your results. The truth is your doctor is probably reading your blood work all wrong. They're missing the cellular issues behind the symptoms.

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58:40So when you graduated with your doctorate, you still actually, um, I was in practice, but we were about to move and travel. And so you did actually a lot of physical training PT and physical exercise stuff with a lot of people for, for, for a period of time. Um, one of the things that you're great at is helping, I think women do the exercises that move the needle the most. So I think for most women, they want to be lean and fit. They don't want to get big and bulky, but they also don't want to just be skinny and scrawny. They want to have definition. They want to be fit and healthy. What are your biggest pieces of exercise and fitness advice for women who want to get a lean, fit body?

59:21Don't be afraid to lift heavy weights. I think that's my number one for women. I think they're so afraid that if they lift a weight bigger than whatever number, whether that's 15 or 20 pounds, they're going to get bulky. where if you want to get bulky, you have to try so hard. I mean, really with eating so much protein and all these different things. And essentially if a woman feels like she's bulky, it's because her diet's not on point because she's eating too much carbs and things like that. And it's actually more of that than it is like muscular bulky. There's a difference, right? There's a difference between if you're like muscle bulk versus just bloats or that kind of a bulk, right?

59:57So I think number one is, I mean, hormonally and everything like that, having muscle is so important, especially as we age hormonally for women. And that's by far the biggest thing, especially lower body, because the muscle groups in your lower body are bigger. So you can have more muscle mass there, which means you have higher metabolism, you have more hormone balance. So yeah, long story short, that's my number one tip. Yeah, like when I look at your exercise routine, you're doing at least three days of weights, and you're really focusing on bigger muscle groups, you're focusing a lot on your legs and butt, your lower body, and then you're doing back and shoulders a fair amount too.

1:00:33And then along with that, you tend to do maybe two days of Peloton. Like you get on Peloton, do HIIT training, Hills, Tabata, that sort of thing. So when I'm looking at your exercise routine. One day I do lower body, which again, I'm focusing more posterior chain because that's if you don't want - Your butt, your hamstrings. Your butt, hamstrings, essentially. Other day I do like one day I do like a push. So again, it would be chest, like shoulders, like this kind of motion. Other day would be a pull, which I focus mostly in back. And then I do one day of like a, just like a full body circuit.

1:01:05So it's like a circuit. So I'm getting like my heart rate up, things like that. Cause I'm only hitting like one body part one time. So I'm not going to like extreme fatigue. But because of that, you can kind of go pretty quickly. So you're getting your heart rate up while lifting heavy weights, but it's like a full body exercise. And then I'll do what you said, one day of like a 20 minute Peloton where it's like a Tabata, where it's, you know, which is 20 seconds on 10 seconds off or something similar to that, where you're going as hard as you can for those 20 seconds and 10 seconds really resting and pushing hard.

1:01:37So, which again, if you, side note, if you're pregnant, doing a Tabata again, or trying to get pregnant, I should say this, you don't want to necessarily add it in if you're pregnant, but that is one of the best things you can do to train for labor because labor is Tabata. It is. Labor is Tabata. It really is. It's intervals. It's like, You have a contraction and it rests. Contraction, rest. That's true. So if you want to train for labor, do Tabata. It's horrible, but it will help you train mentally. Just get through that time frame. That's all you're focusing on and it works. That's so good. Yeah.

1:02:12All right. Rapid fire round of questions. Are you ready? Okay. Favorite family tradition so far? I love doing Opryland before Christmas, looking at all the lights. Yeah. Okay. Okay. My favorite is, and this is my favorite weekend of all time, Thanksgiving weekend, because typically the Friday before, now sometimes we do it even earlier, but we have gone, we do Thanksgiving, which is my favorite holiday, football, pumpkin pie. I love it. And then we pick out a Christmas tree together and doing that with the girls is so fun. And then we'll go back and I watch football all day the next day, which is Ohio State, Michigan for me, I grew up in a big Ohio fan.

1:02:51And then that Sunday we'll decorate the Christmas tree and we'll do hot cider, hot cocoa, play Christmas music, decorate the tree with the girls. So for me, that is my, that, that whole weekend is the great, I mean, the greatest holiday. So good. Okay. Next one. One beauty or wellness product you'd never give up. I mean, probably my protein shake in the morning. Yeah. Probably my travel with it. It's got to come with. Yeah. For me, it's going to be the same. Yeah. Yeah. I would say that collagen based bone broth stem cell like protein and in the smoothie okay um what is your go-to homemade snack for you but then also for your kids honestly like cottage cheese and berries i know it's like not homemade but like that's what we go to and the girls love it if they see me take the cottage cheese container out of the fridge they both just want spoons they don't want a bowl they want a spoon right out of the container cottage cheese and i've noticed a lot of blackberries lately so cottage cheese and blackberries for sure.

1:03:49A homemade snack for me. I mean, I, you like to make your own special non good cookies. Well, I was going to mention, yeah. So I make these cookies now that I love and I just, I flavor them with no sugar. I just put in vanilla protein powder and I put in dark chocolate chips. I make it with a mixture of typically oat flour and sometimes tiger nut flour might sound weird. Tiger nut or almond flour, but I'll, but I'll do, um, carob chips. You don't use chocolate chips. Recently, I've done carob chips, but historically, I've done a lot of the Hugh Kitchen dark chocolate chips. And then for another snack, I love hummus.

1:04:23Yeah. And like cucumbers or bell peppers, but some sort of hummus and veggies. I'd say obsessed, low-key obsessed. Yeah. I mean, I do a lot of hummus. It's my favorite dip and it's pretty healthy. Beans, extra virgin olive oil, tahini, garlic. To the point he eats hummus so much, he actually gave himself like a sensitivity to chickpeas back in the day because he ate so much on me. Well, listen, I don't think that test I did was accurate. But that's a whole other thing about IgG antibody tests. Okay. Bible verse you're clinging to the most right now. Oh, man. I have to pick one. Psalm 27, 4, I believe.

1:05:02It's one thing if I desire to the Lord, that will I seek, that I may dwell in the house of the Lord all days of my life, that behold the beauty of the Lord and dwell in this temple. And it's just that frame of just intimacy coming back to like, regardless of what's going on, that's how the verse starts with all these things are happening. But in the midst of all these things and people coming at you, there's one thing that I'm seeking. It's not about this conflict. It's not about these things happening in my life or the busyness. It's I'm coming back. No, there's one thing. And that's what I'm focusing on.

1:05:30That is what I'm going to seek. And this is my heart's desire. And coming to that is foundational because out of that overflows everything else. right you seek first the kingdom then all things are added well it's such a powerful thing to lock your eyes and fix your eyes on jesus and his kingdom in that way because something's not going right with your house something's not going right with work something's not going the way you want somebody said something mean about you whatever it is you lock back in on jesus you fix your eyes on him and everything's okay you know you fix your eyes on the things that matter most and i love that you know one thing i've reflected on that you and i have talked about recently is in Proverbs where it says, Lord, teach me to number my days that I may gain a heart of wisdom.

1:06:13And, you know, we've looked a lot, we were watching videos of Arwen the other day when she was two, she's five now. And we're like, you said something the other day, we have a dog named Snoopy. And Ailyn wasn't able to say, she was saying Snoopy in such a funny way. And now she actually says Snoopy. And you're like, you know, she'll never say it that cute, funny little way again. But just taking in those moments and realizing like, if you've got a five year old, they'll never be five. They're only going to be five once. So like right now I'm trying to really treasure that in putting Arwen to bed at night, telling her stories, doing those things is like, like in 10 years, like I will have really wished that I had these moments again.

1:06:58Yeah. Like they'll never be younger than they are in this moment right now. They'll never be this young again or as they are right now. Like in a moment from now, they're never going to be, you know, and it really is just taking those moments and trying to be as present as possible. You don't want to miss that because it goes so fast. Yeah. Yeah. Well, I think one of the things I know we're both aware of is that health is being healthy mentally, physically, spiritually, and marriage and your relationships and all these things. And I think just keeping our eyes fixed on what matters most is so important.

1:07:25That's one of the things I've just loved being married to you is priorities, God, family, health down the list. And so even though we're both very, very focused on health and fitness and longevity and raising healthy kids, all of that, it's secondary or tertiary. It's later on down the list compared to focusing on our faith and these other things. And I think this is an important thing too, because I see how sometimes people will start to obsess about certain areas of their health and you want to focus on it. but it shouldn't be the number one thing. And I think when you're focusing on God and honoring God with our bodies, as it says in Romans, you know, but just remembering like our body's a temple, right?

1:08:08And we're called to honor God. And so that just naturally leads to healthy eating. It leads to being active and not saying yes to everything because we're not God, you know, and being able to prioritize, here's the things that matter most. And that's one of the things I think that, um, allows to have a great marriage, a great, great health, great kids is saying, here's the things that matter most. Like right now we're having to do this with what are we going to put Arwen and where could she be gifted? Right now we've earned swimming, gymnastics, and jujitsu. Okay. So here's the things. And then here are the family traditions that matter the most.

1:08:37Here's, you know, the date nights or the couples we want to hang out with. Like, here's the things. And we're gonna have to say no to everything else because we also need to have time just to sit in the backyard, push the girls on the swings, go for a family walk, do these other things that allow us to build a great family dynamic and relationship and also time for forgotten connection there. So I think this element of saying no, prioritizing those things that matter the most is always important. I'd say one of the things you're saying the hierarchy of, you know, how we've, we've tried to, you know, your best with God first and then family and then health and all the things.

1:09:12But the cool thing is too, it's like once things are in the correct order, they all kind of go like this, like they are intertwined because it's whatever you do in word and deed and eat and drink, you do all to the glory of God. So in family life, so it's like, I'm, yes, I'm eating this way because I want to be healthy, but I'm also being mindful of that in doing this, I'm actually bringing glory to God because I'm stewarding this gift that he's given me of my body and playing with my kids and choosing to spend that intimate time with them and being intentional. It's no, I'm actually doing this and doing this is actually bringing glory to God because he's given me this gift of this moment now to steward and to pour into these kids and And this is part of that.

1:09:49Well, you know, one other thing is creating healthy rhythms. Like now Saturdays we do brunch. Yeah. Sundays we do church. Foodie. And then like, you know, and then our daughters, like Arwen loves working out with you. Like anytime you go in the gym, she wants to go, which I know sometimes you're also having to keep her from hurting herself. But, you know, it's such a fun rhythm, like working out as a family, eating healthy as a family, worshiping God as a family and all these things. It's such a, it brings such a sense of fulfillment because I think we get a sense of fulfillment because it's what we were designed to do.

1:10:23We're not meant to go through life alone. We're meant to go through it as a family, growing more like God together, spreading his kingdom as a family. When you do that, it brings a sense of joy. It brings a sense of fulfillment. And I know that for me, you've been such an amazing wife and partner in doing that, growing in my faith and in my health and all these things. So thanks so much for coming on the podcast. We did a ranking of who are the most requested people to ever come on this podcast. And you were, well, I'm sorry, you were number two. This wasn't me. You were my number one. Jordan Rubin was the most requested in terms of coming on the show.

1:11:01But thanks so much for coming on. Bring Jordan and Nikki sometime. That would be a fun. Yeah, that is fun. It's always fun seeing the other couple, seeing couples together. So Nikki's a great counterpart to Jordan for sure. well everybody thanks so much for tuning in here to the Dr. Josh Axe show and today the Dr. Axe show with my wife Dr. Chelsea Axe and we hope you've enjoyed it thanks so much for all of you who submitted questions here for the show we really enjoyed you know chatting today and going through this and sharing some more of our personal lives today here as well also and encourage you subscribe it's the number one thing you can do to support the show and also we've actually had the show shadow banned a little bit on YouTube sometimes because we're covering controversial.

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