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25:50Walk me through maybe some of your favorite herbs or supplements or treatments that kind of fall within those different categories. Absolutely. So when people are ready for a detox, their drainage is open. So when I start killing and binding, they cannot recirculate and dump them out of their body. And they're ready for that. But some of my favorite supplements to do kill are broad-spectrum herbs. They're kind of like broad-spectrum antibiotics. They cover yeast and bacteria and parasites because herbs have this quality. They don't just go after one thing. They can cover a multitude of things.

26:21And so I love things like Biocidin LSF. I love Para 1 and Para 3 by Cellcor. I love my own product, Gut Hero, that I made with Sol that covers a variety of things like that. And then I usually have people wait an hour or so and take a binder. I really love fulvic and humic acid binders. They're the best, right? They act as a driver to turn on NERF-2 pathways that are anti-cancer and other things too. And then I have people, if they can tolerate it, if they don't have something like POTS or something where they might pass out in the sauna, then I'll put them in the sauna. Because you're killing things off, mopping them up with things that act like a sponge, and then we're sweating them out of our pores.

26:59And studies have shown, small studies have shown you can sweat out heavy metals. things like mercury, even lead and cadmium. And so you can definitely sweat out some pesticides, some PCBs, some BPA. So I really think if you guys just glisten and you don't sweat, that's a pathway that's stuck for you that is not letting your body release as it should. And so I really love infrared saunas. I think all the studies behind them have been amazing, how they actually help you to refold different proteins in the body that might be misfolded. It gives your body a second chance to do that right again. That's so great.

27:35And so I just really have seen such beautiful things from people just doing a kill, buy, and sweat when their body's prepared. That's so great. One thing I want to mention, and I know you're in alignment with this, is that everyone is a unique individual. And I think that when you go, if you're dealing with any of the things we've talked about, brain fog, even certain types of hormone imbalance, inflammatory bowel disease, You know, a lot of these mystery illnesses, as Dr. Jess has specialized in, you know, having a practitioner who you can work with, who can kind of dial in what's going on, because there are certain things that are better at killing others.

28:12We both like a lot of the broad spectrum things that she mentioned, which are great. Sometimes, though, if you have a parasite, you know, you might be better off with, you know, wormwood or black walnut or something specific there like garlic. If it's more viral, turkey tail mushroom, thyme, andrographis, there's some things there. So doing the broad spectrum stuff is great for everybody. Anyone can benefit from that, especially if you're not feeling well. But if you work with a practitioner, they can probably dial it in for you even more. And I agree. I am a huge fan of humic and fulvic acid and ultra high dose probiotics.

28:46I think those are the best detoxifiers. I do like, in certain instances, chlorella, zeolites, clay, activated charcoal, colostyramine oh yeah i love yeah citrus pectin's amazing so good that's a great one and um and so i think all those are great as well depending on your condition but a good practitioner will know hey this is best for this like one thing i see dr just a lot is a lot of practitioners just going with activated charcoal for everything and and i don't i think it's good for mold but i think for some of these other things i don't think people realize that charcoal is really such a strong binder will bind to minerals and it'll back you up.

29:26So actually for a lot of people, it can kind of start blocking that detoxification pathway in the colon as you're talking about. And that's why I like to go more gentle with it. The thing I love about fulvic acid, humic acid, and high-dose probiotic, that combination, is that it's going to help you have more bowel movements while binding at the same time. So I love that you mentioned that because not a lot of practitioners do. And I think that's such a great combination. I feel the same. Thank you, by the way. And I feel the same way about activated charcoal it doesn't leave the gut it doesn't go systemic yeah so that's my other issue with it yeah um but great for things like if you get food poisoning bam activated alcohol 100 oh yeah the best um but yeah i think that all these binders have their own unique um characteristics yeah just like the herbs you mentioned so um i don't know i just think that binders in general are wonderful but people have to be remineralized and some of the things i like in the beginning with people are high dose minerals yes like above the rda high dose minerals.

30:22I've been talking like cobalt, chromium, copper, selenium, iodine, molybdenum, magnesium, zinc, all those different ones, right? Very important. You know, one thing I don't think people realize either is like, what the recommendations are. So I'm writing a book right now on cellular medicine right now. And one of the things I got into, there's a practitioner named Roger Williams, and he's actually the founder of like personalized nutrition today. So this is where really functional medicine came from in the past 100 years. And he went through and said, you know, one person might need, you know, one level of vitamin C.

31:02Another person, they're normal. What they need is 10 times more. That's right. It's that much different. And so a lot of times people need a lot more than the recommended dose. That's what I've seen. Absolutely. And I mean, even when I was stressed out, I have my own personal story. I was really stressed out about two, three years ago. Everything in my laps was in the red. And I was like, no wonder I'm suicidal. I had zero B vitamins. My MCV, my main corpuscular volume was 106. Oh, wow. My homocysteine was 12. My vitamin D was 10. My CRP was 8. You were feeling rough. All stressed out. I had 30 pounds extra of weight on me.

31:42It was terrible. And you know what saved me was I went to get a B-complex injection, and then I was taking it orally, and it wasn't working because I wasn't absorbing and assimilating. I had leaky gut. I was so stressed out. And so that's why I created liposomal nano B vitamins. B1 through B12, methylated if people's genes can handle that, are like a game changer. Now, do you have the MTHFR variant? Was that an issue for you at all or no? I didn't until I went through these seven years of horrible stress in my life where there were lawsuits and, you know, license. I lost my license. I surrendered.

32:16Lots of things happened to me during that seven years. And it's really I just think that I didn't have it and it got turned on. It was a gene that was off epigenetically, like keys on a piano. They weren't pressed. But due to the stress, because genes signal and turn on and off based on environmental cues. So because of the environment of stress I lived in for seven years, those jeans were pressed like keys on a piano. And I got a Dutch test in 2017. I had 90 % methylation. I got one last year. No met 4%. 4%. Wow. So that's what stress can do to you. Yeah. And lifestyle and trauma, right? Yeah.

32:59I'm a big proponent of that. I think that the reason why people are so sick today, we see so many chronic illnesses. I think close to, I mean, almost half of it is due to chronic stress, emotional childhood trauma, spiritual, like lack of identity and purpose. I mean, all those things sort of cumulatively. And then the other part is sort of diet, you know. And of course, I do think exercise is important and a few other things. But I do think that, I mean, those are the big things. And so many people are overlooking altogether that sort of emotional piece of the puzzle. It's big. It's huge. And no one, the half of my patients run when I start talking about nervous system regulation to them.

33:40No one wants to do that. It's really hard to see yourself in flight or fight. It's really hard to see where you may be running around and not breathing properly or have a startle response that hasn't been integrated. There's a lot of people who can't see themselves that way and no one wants to talk about it. I'll show this. I thought about myself in the same way for years. I would have somebody say to me, um, or I, my first two years of practice, I worked so many hours. You can, you can, you know, understand this probably as good as anybody, you know, 80 hours a week. I mean, it's like, I would wake up at like 5am to do my personal growth.

34:17And this, and it's a form of work, like, you know, start, start then. And then I would go to bed at 10, but, and I really worked the whole time. I mean, I was doing something. And then two years into practice, I started getting like leaky gut, histamine reactions. And I'm like, what's going on? I'm eating perfect. Same. And then I saw a Chinese medicine doctor and he said, he goes like this, he goes, your battery should be here. He spoke and he goes like, you're it's here. Like, it's like, you know, you should be at 80 percent, 90. You're down at 20. He goes, you have no batteries left. He's like, your battery is.

34:47And I was like, OK, well, what do I do? He's like, just and he said something about stress. I'm like, oh, well, I'm not stressed. I'm like, I like because I didn't feel any sense of worry or fear or anxiety or depression. I had none of those emotions, but I realized it was just death by busyness. I mean, I had something, and this is so many people today, they have something scheduled from the morning they wake up to the time they crash at night and then their weekends are totally booked too. And so it's not always this sort of like emotional, like anxiousness or worry. It's sometimes it's just, you're just too busy.

35:20Oh, you know who I see? All these high-performing women who are like soccer moms who come in. I get everything done by 11 a.m. Their cortisol is off the charts. Yeah. Off the charts. I'm like, listen, it's really hard to convince somebody to not be as productive as they think they are because it's bad for their health. Yeah. It's really hard to change that pattern when they're getting everything done. Well, and I think a lot of this is spiritual, too, because I think that at some point in their life, they had a parent or social media or something tell them your worth, your value is tied to what you accomplish in your productivity.

35:57The more you get done, the more valuable you are. And then we see today on social media, like all of these people, men, but even more so it's become women, like applauded for having a successful career. and so but it's exhausting trying to be super woman or super man or super whatever all the time and but a lot of times we don't realize like they are trying to achieve and be productive because that's where they're trying to get their sense of value from versus you know if we look at the judeo-christian faith it's more no listen you've got a parent and god loves you like like he loves you you're his child yes you you know this is just a speck of sand like you're meant to live through eternity.

36:38You're not God. I think sometimes people don't realize that nobody would admit this, but they're trying to fill God's shoes or operate in that manner. And that's making people sick. We know pride was the first. Pride comes before a fall. And so I think there's an element of that and a lot of other sort of things that are a big part of people being sick today. But with a lot of people, it's like if they could just shut off their brain and stop working, that alone is their biggest cure. Oh, yeah. People can just get silent in themselves. But, you know, that's the problem. If you keep yourself busy or you're always helping other people, which is the healer's plight, you don't have to work on yourself.

37:16Yeah, that's true. That is true. Because there's pain there. And so, like, even psychologically, you will try and avoid it. Because to go back and deal with your childhood trauma today, that's painful. Painful. And it's not for the faint of heart. It's like resetting a bone. It's like, okay, the bone's already broken. I don't want to reset it. That really hurts. But if you want to be healthy, long-term, and functional, you can't ignore it. It's part of your hero's journey.

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38:56I mean, all these things I think is so important. And it's 99 % of doctors don't recommend, but it is be so healing for so many of you doing that coupled with all of the things we're talking about in terms of cellular medicine and functional medicine for healing. One thing I want to ask you about is, and you referenced this, you gave up your license in the state of California and then you moved to Florida. Why did you give up your license in California? What happened there? This is a crazy story. So, you know, California passed this law back in 2015, 16, SB 277, and followed closely by SB 276, written by Senator Richard Pan.

39:40And this was a law that forced children to have all shots by the age of 18 to attend public school. And they also made it legal to subpoena patients' medical records without their permission and open them up under the Health and Human Services Department under the guise of safety to check the legitimacy of said. Wow. Yes. So when HHS subpoenaed my patients' records, I thought it was just for a divorce case from the parents because there was nothing said. They opened an investigation on me and hundreds of other doctors like Dr. Mary Sutton, Dr. Bob Sears, Dr. Ken Stoller, Dr. Paul White. And we all got retroactively punished under SB 276 for trying my best to protect fragile children.

40:34I paired up with a pediatric naturopath. I worked in a naturopathic clinic in California. I was the only medical doctor. I loved it. They taught me so much. And we really followed the law. But they got me on minutia, like not signing a chart in time or, you know, they wanted to test each adjuvant to a person's genes, which is extremely expensive for patients and not the way the body works. It's not an allergy to adjuvants. Let's get real. And so when they came for me, you know, they wanted three years probation and about 60 hours of their reeducation and a stipulated license with no exemptions.

41:12But the big underlying thing here was they wanted all the kids to have all their shots and you to force them to do it. Yes. And if they got us in trouble, it nulled all other exemptions I'd done for fragile children, which was really the goal. Yeah. Wow. So all these people I helped protect had to either figure it out or move out of state when I got in trouble. I mean, you probably know this, but the amount of people from California that have moved to Nashville to Tennessee is crazy. Which I will say, I am appreciative because now we've got the greatest restaurant. Like Nashville is a top five food spot in the whole country because so many people that are natural, who had like natural restaurants and things, they moved here, opened up some great stuff.

41:53But it's, yeah. Listen, the people in California are amazing. Like-minded, wonderful people. They really are. It's the politics in the government there that has an agenda and really ruined it for me. Because after COVID happened, I couldn't stay. I didn't feel welcome in California because I willingly surrendered my license there. You know, like I thought that was the bigger play. I wasn't making money, seeing patients that anymore really that way. I was I was doing it because I liked it. Yeah. And so I just thought I'm going to media blitz them. I'm going to surrender this and I'm going to media blitz them.

42:27And everyone was scared to interview me during that time. Only Peter McCullough interviewed me. Yeah. He's another one of those, you know, virtuous people that stood for what was right. And God bless him. Yes. Yeah. Yeah. Great job. Yes, he did. And so that was a, you know, I really felt like a disgruntled, like kicked out, outpassed in the medical community. I've most of my career since I changed my perspective, I've been called a quack by keyboard warriors and other colleagues, actually, and told that, you know, I, I deserve not to have my license. Can I tell you what? I would say it frustrates me, but really, if I have the right mental attitude, the Bible talks about this, like you will be persecuted for doing the right thing.

43:16Yeah. And there are so many doctors who through COVID who lost their license, who were ridiculed, who were shamed. You're one of those doctors. And now I think that it's come full circle. Now we see the truth that you were right. Malone was right. McCullough was right. A lot of these doctors I know that have spoken out were right. But there's been no apology. There's been no admitting to their wrongdoing. Again, you've got all these still, you know, the politicians in California, the CDC, the Medical Association, Fauci, who made these medical recommendations who were completely and utterly wrong.

43:55Yes. And there's been no events because they're operating in the system of a God complex, and they still think they're right somehow, which is wild to think about. And that's why, I mean, you've seen the statistics of how much people trusted politicians in our conventional medical system before COVID and after. I mean, they lost almost everybody. You know what I hear when you say that? COVID was a blessing. Agreed. A blessing. Look what it did for healthcare. So many people have so much more wisdom to the truth. Did you see that shots are an all-time low? Oh, I did see that. Yeah. Yes. Which, you know what?

44:33I just want people to be able to choose. Me too. And let me put a disclaimer on that, too. Choose when there's correct informed consent. Because there is not correct informed consent for root canals or breast implants or shots. And so all we've heard is safe and effective, safe and effective, safe and effective. Which is kind of a brainwashing tactic, in my opinion, over the years. So I want full transparency. I want full, you know, studies comparing. I want authenticity from these people at this point in time. And that's fine. Once that is given, then people can choose. But when they are educated and have the proper wisdom.

45:13Yeah. Well, what are some of your, I want to switch gears back to a little bit of your process of sort of now it's strengthen, kill, bind, sweat. What are some of the things you like to do for, you mentioned infrared sauna, which I'm a huge fan of. And I think also one one thing for people might consider doing in addition to that is go outside, get a lot of sun and hike like sweat. That's another way you can sweat full body sun that is going to have similar properties. And one other thing, infrared sauna, go on Facebook marketplace, go on eBay. You can get some really great deals on saunas for a quarter of the cost in some cases.

45:52And so that's something you may look at as well. If people are interested in getting an infrared sauna, I'm a huge fan of sunlight. And I've got a sunlight and sun at my house. Use it constantly all the time. So again, I think investing in getting a sunlight and sun is awesome. But again, remember the sun's also beneficial. So also in addition to that, get a lot of sun. What do you think of like castor oil packs and some other detoxification methods? I love castor oil packs. Shout out to Marisol and Queen of the Thrones. But yes, I love it. I think it's amazing. I think it helps move the bile.

46:25It helps increase and move natural killer cells. I think it puts people in parasympathetic rest and digest, which I'm always a fan of. And I think it's a wonderful, wonderful thing for hair. You can use castor oil for so many different things. I mean, I've even seen people do thyroid castor oil packs on your liver gallbladder here, on your breast or your lower abdomen for women for the time of the month. So it's multipurpose. I don't know. I like doing it too with either before or after doing like infrared heat on the area there for about 30 minutes. And so in Chinese medicine, it's really it's moving that.

46:58It's moving blood. It's moving. And this is just so important for healing different areas of the body. Are there any therapies or treatments like ozone or hyperbaric oxygen therapy or certain types of IVs you like for treating people with infections and these mystery illnesses as well? For sure. And I tell people these aren't necessary to heal. They're not mandatory because I want people to understand that there are so many free things you can do to heal too. But I love me some toys. So, yes, I have a hyperbaric oxygen chamber at home. When my dog got a brain tumor, I bought it for her, but it's also for people.

47:29So I use that too. I have a Flopresso, which moves the lymph. It's like a full-body Michelin suit. It's like a warm hug with heat all the way and puts everybody in parasympathetic mode. I love, let's see, cold plunges for some people, not everyone. I love PEMF mats. I love all that stuff for hacks. For sure, it's wonderful. But I have to say sauna is probably my favorite, honestly. I agree. Yeah, sauna is amazing. I mean, so many people can benefit from saunas. And I think the other thing, too, part of it is we get a lot less sunlight. So we're getting that infrared light and that heat to just move and help circulation is good for pretty much every condition you can imagine.

48:11I tell people all the time, I don't feel good. I'm depressed. Have you been outside today? No. Have you done this today? No. So it's like, go outside, people. We do nothing but sit indoors 80 % of the time where the air is poor quality and stare at a blue light. Go on and walk 20 to 30 minutes three times a day, just as much as you can. Get outside and walk. I want to talk to you about yoga. And I want to share sort of my philosophical view of this and religious view of this. Sure. You know, I'm a fan of a lot of the benefits of yoga physiologically. I think there's a contingency of Christians who think it's fine, and some who think it's demonic or it's evil in some way.

48:55And I want to kind of share my opinion, but then I would love to hear yours as well. You know, I think that, like, for me, if I go do a yoga class, I can do it unto God. I can do it unto Jesus. Today, these are movements that don't have to be—you know, I know, like, there's one movement, you know, probably something like a cobra where you're pushing up where they say that's worshiping the sun gaura. I can worship Jesus while I'm looking up. So all that being said, I'm curious to hear your viewpoints of going to a yoga class. And actually, I've taken yoga classes from predominantly Christian instructors and things like that.

49:28But I am curious to hear your view and take on yoga because you're a yoga instructor, correct? Yes. In addition to being an MD. Yeah, you know, I have a similar philosophy as you. I think that you make it what you will. And I think that I'm a lot more powerful than some practice that can have demons enter me. If I'm aware and I'm mindful and I'm thinking about what I believe, then you can honor that religion, honor that perspective. Jesus, like you said. I think that's true. And I have a hard time thinking that things like stillness, which can sometimes be called meditation, or yoga, a way to get to know myself better, someone that God created, could be sinful.

50:15Yeah. Well, I will throw this warning for people. Well, I think also there's a verse in the Bible where Paul is saying to a group of people, one of the churches there, he says, listen, you're only ready for milk right now. You're not ready for solid food. So I think maybe there are some people, and I understand this Christian perspective, that somebody could go who maybe is not strong in their faith, who's influenceable, and they could go to something. and maybe it is a yoga studio that is really talking a lot about, you know, opening them up to sort of this Eastern spirituality and that could be a bad path for them.

50:56And so, so I do, I do want to say that I do think that there are probably yoga studios and, and ways of going about it that could be harmful to somebody, including somebody who's a Christian. But I also think there's an element of if somebody is ready for food, if somebody's mature, the benefits of being able to do certain movements for flexibility, for mobility. I mean, there are numerous studies on the health benefits of yoga and Pilates and these sort of exercises for longevity and for helping the overall health. So again, I did want to say, listen, I do think it's a per person basis and you want to move forward with wisdom.

51:35But I do think for many people, the movements have benefits, statistically, medically, there's some good evidence there. I mean, personally, it changed my life because, you know, when I first started going, I had one leg that was a little bit longer than the other one. Why did it feel different when I stood on my right leg than my left leg? So it brought up a lot of awareness to how I was, my posture and how I was standing and how I was moving in general, because until you're still and you're moving through those movements in stillness, your mind's going all day, you're busy all day, you don't have the awareness to notice where your body is off kilter sometimes.

52:07So I really appreciated that from yoga. And I will say I agree with you. It's based on the person and their discernment and where they are in their journey. And you have to really know yourself. So for me, I'm really well-rooted in my integrity and my faith. So I could go to other countries and hear about Buddhism and Hinduism and learn from those people, even though I don't adopt their same philosophy. I try to respect other people and their opinions and what they believe, but I don't have to integrate that into my life if you're strong enough. And you have to know yourself. Yeah, yeah, you do.

52:43And again, I think it is one of those things that's very debatable. I think it's one of those things where I know there's strong opinions on. But overall, I do think, again, there are. And like I said, I know a lot of Christian yoga instructors who are doing it for just the movement methods and the balance and flexibility reasons. I wonder if there's people bringing God and Jesus into that, into the yoga. Oh, I know several people in Nashville specifically who are doing it that way. But yeah, it's something I wanted to ask about because it is something I've seen. At points, I've recommended different types of exercise for different types of conditions.

53:21and to your point, the reason I brought it up today, because I don't talk about it very often or recommend it as an exercise that often, but I do think for people with detoxification, if you're doing hot yoga and sweating and looking at kind of regulating that sympathetic nerve system, I think for those people in particular, it could be beneficial. And that was me, you know, that was me. That's why it changed my life. So yeah, I think it's not a black and white answer, right? It's very nuanced. Yeah, it is. Well, Jess, I've loved this. This has been an amazing conversation. and I know that you've helped so many people with these chronic mystery illnesses.

53:55Well, what's sort of your last piece of advice for people in terms of, let me ask you this, how can people find out the root of what they're actually dealing with? If it's a specific type of infection, is there any testing or symptoms or things that people can know? Yeah, you know, definitely I just give some people some little pointers now about if they think they have water damage or mold or something. You know, it can follow you guys. It can colonize in your sinus cavities and your mucous membranes. So even if you leave the moldy place and go somewhere else, it can follow you. You become a mycotoxin-making factory here.

54:28So if you leave your house and you feel better when you go on vacation or your work, when you go home, or it's worse when it rains out, or you have shortness of breath, you can't hold your urine, static shocks on the skin, a new diagnosis of asthma, your kid's bedwetting again, these are all signs of water damage in the house. You know, the big three symptoms of Lyme, brain fog, migrating joint pains, fatigue, right? There's a lot of symptomatology that can go with this, but ultimately you want to test, not guess. And so there are functional tests that are amazing out there. I like Vibrant Wellness.

55:01I run a lot of their labs in my clinic. Yeah, they've got great stuff. Great stuff. I love the Total Tox test, which tests heavy metals, you know, pesticides, phthalates, plastics, as well as mold or mycotoxins. So everyone that comes through my clinic gets that test. I love blood work too. I get a whole inflammatory full panel with iron, cholesterol, thyroid, ESR, CRP, and all the blood work on people. And then analyze that from a functional standpoint, which has different reference ranges than regular conventional medicine. And we have tests for everything, the gut, the hormones, neurotransmitters.

55:35And it's just nice for people if they've gone the conventional route to maybe open their minds and just get some testing that's deeper to look and see possibly if we can get hints for why you feel sick. because nobody's broken. Their body is literally just giving them clues and symptoms and a cry for help. So instead of ignoring it, catch it now because the health is all we have. Yeah, I think that the blood work that you and I run is so different than the conventional blood work and even how we read it. We do a very similar thing. I love doing these tests to be able to tell the vitamins you're deficient in, the minerals you're deficient in, the amino acids, the fatty acids, hormone panels, GI.

56:13I mean, being able to look at these things tells us so much of exactly what you need to take and what's going to help and then following the right process from there. And this is why somebody will go and see, you know, a functional medicine or cellular medicine practitioner who really does more of a personalized plan like we do. And they're able to get these extraordinary results because it's not this cookie cutter method or sometimes just trying to give you one drug just to change your symptom, but while you're getting sick and something else. And so, so grateful for you, Dr. Jess and the work you do.

56:44Where can people find out more about you and the great work you do? Absolutely. So I would say there are hierarchies to working with me or seeing me. I do a lot of free information online at dr.jesss.md is my Instagram account and Dr. Jessica Petros on YouTube. I also have a do it yourself wellness platform where you can learn to be your own best doctor called wellnessplus.com. It's wellness plus. It's amazing if you like that kind of stuff and you like to watch courses and everything. if you want to work with me one-on-one or my team, that's also a possibility. And that's drjess.health. Awesome.

57:17Well, Dr. Jess, thanks so much for coming on today. And everybody, thanks so much for listening in here to the Dr. Josh Axe Show. Every week, we're diving deep into the science and principles of how you can heal physically, mentally, spiritually, and take your health and your life to the next level. Also, hey, don't forget to subscribe. we have had this show shadow banned and not showing up sometimes in your feed because we're talking about controversial topics like infections shots uh these holistic treatments and sometimes the social media platforms don't like it so if you don't subscribe it's our most popular shows like this one may not show up in your feed so don't forget to subscribe also it's the number one thing you do to support the show along with sharing we're also so grateful for that every time you share this information.

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