The Medical Freedom War Is Here. Del Bigtree EXPOSES the Pharma Machine

25:44and you know when it came to and luckily bobby called and said and that was it covid really pushed him over the edge yeah and you know so he called me and said you know that idea you had i'm thinking of doing it now um and so i was in i think every meeting he had is he we had three or four meetings just hashing out should i do this is crazy am i out of my mind yeah um but he's he's a really spectacular individual it was beautiful to get to work with him. I've never, I don't think we've ever, I mean, I haven't been around politics a lot, but I can't imagine as many people in there that really govern themselves in the type of spiritual way that he does.

26:24I would always say in interviews, I wouldn't call him a religious man, I would call him a spiritual man. I think he is deeply, deeply involved with attempting to keep his self-will of what he wants out of the way and just do what is the next right step for humanity for, you know, and I think a lot of that comes from his recovery. You know, he's been very outspoken about drug abuse when he was younger. I think, you know, having something that was, he felt so powerless to, you can see he's governed by what freed him there. And he talks about God and he has a spiritual life. And so it was really neat.

27:02And so he was able to start as a Democrat. And then, you know, it was clear we were being cheated. You know, they were literally rigging the whole system. I forget, was it like New Hampshire, where the Democratic Party passed a rule that if you campaigned in New Hampshire and that if you campaigned at all, any votes you got in the primary from New Hampshire would be given straight to Joe Biden. It was like crazy. Like, what? So we had already campaigned. So, like, I mean, what kind of rule is that? Like, you're not allowed to campaign here. If you do, we're taking your delegates. I mean, it was that bad.

27:41It was absolutely crazy. As you spent time around Robert F. Kennedy Jr., what is maybe something, the most surprising thing as you started spending a lot of time around him, just about him as a person?

27:56I think just, I mean, it's that. it's that a lot I just saw I've seen documentaries they've made about the rise of Robert Kennedy and his huge ego and he needs to be in front of cameras that it's really not the case and so sort of the inside scoop is you know I would we would work on a speech and I you know both Charles Eisenstein who was just a spectacular speech writer some of the you know and Bobby I won't say Bobby also is deeply involved he's not a guy that just reads somebody's script but would get involved with it. But I'd work on like presentation and here's where you could really, if you just like put an emphasis in here, you could really get the crowd to cheer and he just wouldn't do it.

28:38He would say to me, Del, I've watched, you're amazing at that, but that's not how I give speeches. I'm just going to, I just give the truth the way it is. And if the people are ready to hear it, they'll hear it. And so it took me a while to understand that. And then I started realizing that is a form, you know, getting a crowd to cheer and rise up and, you know, get all pumped up does also have your own sort of ego pumping up that's going on there. And he doesn't want he doesn't have any part of any of it. And so watching how much he sort of keeps that energy inside of himself, like just even keel so that he can, you know, get through the day.

29:15That's the most surprising thing is just how consistent that is. I mean, it's amazing because, again, he has been more slandered and ganged up on than anyone I can think of in our modern day. And he has kept such a sort of even keeled, you know, just his emotions in check, which is really powerful. The thing I respect most about him, and I've spent very little time with him, but in watching his interviews and just seeing the way he's conducted himself. I mean, there's this clip of him talking about how much he cared about kids with autism. If he could just prevent one kid from getting autism, essentially it's something he would give his life for.

30:00And it brought me to tears. You know, I was really, really just astounded. Because that's just something we're missing in government is this sense of like, I will sacrifice myself. I will give everything. And I care deeply about people, about children, about the health of this country. And that's something that really moved me to become a supporter of what he's all about. He's the real deal. I mean, it's not just he's not just saying that on a camera. He's like that, you know, 24-7. There was times I would sit down, you know, with him even before he ran for president. I would just say, why are you still here?

30:36I mean, you could have just let go of this topic. You're a Kennedy, right? He was in line to be one of the great political Kennedys. They handed him the Senate seat in New York and he turned it down and went out and campaigned for Hillary Clinton to be senator then. So a lot of his family is upset about that. That was his moment. You were supposed to get into politics and he didn't. He didn't want that limelight. But I just said, but then you get into this vaccine issue. You're probably one of the most established and your achievements in environmental work as a lawyer is bar none. He is one of the greatest environmental attorneys of all times, which should make him a darling of the Democratic Party.

31:18But this one issue, you decide to get into one issue that's the third rail of all third rail vaccines. It has dragged you through the mud. It has tarred and feathered you on a constant basis. It has attempted to erase your entire legacy of cleaning up rivers, cleaning up oceans, cleaning up the air. You know, why don't you just walk away and say, I'm just going to let this one thing go? And he said, because children are being destroyed and children are dying. And he said, my father raised me to once you discover there's a people that are being hurt or oppressed in any way, that's who you work for.

32:02That's what you're here for. He's like, I'm not designed to walk away. So that was it. And so he'll take the slings and arrows and attacks, merciless attacks, and keep going because he feels that that's what's important in his life. Yeah. Do you have unexplainable illness, hormone dysfunction, weight loss resistance, brain fog, and you're tired of being dismissed when you know something isn't right? Well, get my at-home testing of targeted biomarkers, including hormones, thyroid, and metabolism, plus a full hour with one of my senior health advisors to help you understand your results. The truth is your doctor is probably reading your blood work all wrong.

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33:30At least that's what people have said it did. That was very specific. I've recommended that to so many people. So many people. Again, if you have not seen Vaxxed, you have to, especially if you're going to be a parent, you are a parent. It's the must-watch health documentary. Yeah, it was really impactful, powerful, important. Changed my life and career forever. that was the moment you know i had to like let television go because i knew i was going to piss off the pharmaceutical industry i started a non-profit out of that called the informed consent action network because that was just about one vaccine mmr and autism i wanted to know about the other you know 15 to 16 vaccines given 72 doses at that point and you know as we were traveling the country with that film so many people were coming up and wanting to tell their story of their vaccine injury story or their children's vaccine injury story so we were just recording hundreds and hundreds of, you know, these incredibly painful stories, but it wasn't just MMR and it wasn't just autism.

34:34You know, every parent, like parents were, you know, claiming every single vaccine was being implicated by somebody. Now anecdotal for sure, you know, I mean, does that mean that they, you know, that that happened? I don't know, but you started hearing real, you know, consistent, you know, similarities. One of the ones we heard a lot was, you know my star athlete daughter or my star athlete son was paralyzed after the Gardasil vaccine I heard that many many times or our baby died after a flu shot you know or one of the ones that was interesting because vax was about MMR and autism I would say the number one thing I'd hear was we never got to the MMR vaccine our child regressed into autism right after the DTaP vaccine but all of that parents were coming up after the film and saying you know obviously your film's about the MMR?

35:23What about the rest of the vaccines? And so I wanted to do a deeper dive, and that's why I started the nonprofit that I did. I started a weekly talk show called The High Wire, which you brought up, thehighwire.com. And I would say that's like a documentary every single week. I mean, it's usually 90 minutes to two and a half hours of interviews, breaking news, science. And we have a strong, powerful legal team. Half of our funding goes to suing mostly government agencies we've won against fda cdc nih health and human services so all of that is a part of what we do i was a part of vax 2 which was really about the interviews that happened on the bus as we were traveling the country i didn't produce that but i was on the bus yeah when we were doing those interviews that was a very powerful film um there's been a few i wasn't involved with but the current one i would say is my next major film and that's um an inconvenience study.

36:16Yeah. Which is, um, what was your biggest finding? It's sort of, wow, the thing that you kind of shocked you as you were doing this, the, the, the, the documentary you're doing now.

36:29Well, it was shocking that it was, that this, that what this study discovered was as bad as it was. What was shocking were the actual numbers. Um, this was a study that compared vaccinated children to completely unvaccinated. This study was done because I challenged a world renowned scientist, a guy named Dr. Marcus Zervos, who is the head of infectious disease at Henry Ford Health. Not someone I normally get to interact with, right? Not someone that would ever consider themselves to be on our side. In fact, is like adamantly not on the side of questioning vaccines at all. But it was almost like a bet.

37:07If you're right, then certainly this simple study compare vaccinated, completely unvaccinated children, you know, and I said, let the chips fall where they may. And he kind of said deal and decided to do it, which I was shocked at. You know, no one, no major institutions ever done this study, which is weird too. I mean, I find that odd, but it'd be the easiest way to prove the vaccines work. Let's just compare these two groups of kids. But the numbers of what came out in this study, you know, there's an issue, but you're assuming A bad issue would be if there's a 60 % increase of, let's say, autoimmune disease amongst one group of kids versus another.

37:49No one would want a 60 % increase, certainly not 100 % increase, where you have twice the rate of an issue. This study found, and it was a big study of 18 ,500 kids, 2 ,000 of which are unvaccinated, which is even if you think about the national average, the national average is probably under 10 % of a population is unvaccinated. In this case, if you're getting 2 ,000 out of 18 ,000, it's more than 20 % of the kids, which was a very large unvaccinated group, which is cool. Great. We can really get some strong numbers here. But the conclusion of the study by a guy that only did the study to prove us wrong, to prove that the vaccinated were healthy, at least that's my opinion.

38:35It's the only reason I could imagine he was doing it based on the conversations we were having. But it found that the conclusion was the children who were vaccinated were 2.5 times more likely to have a chronic disease. And then there were categories that were really scary, six times the rate of neurodevelopmental disorders amongst vaccinated compared to unvaccinated, nearly six times the rate of autoimmune disease. And then there was a lot of categories where they couldn't even figure out the rate because there was zero in the unvaccinated group, which that was a weird problem. I'd never I'm not a math guy necessarily.

39:15And so they just they just block the line out. Like you don't even get a comparison ratio. You cannot make math out of zero. So they just leave it like undocumented. For instance, like ADHD, I believe it was, had like 250 ADHD children in the vaccinated and zero in the unvaccinated. So they just leave it a wash. Like we couldn't determine if there was an issue. Couldn't determine. There was definitely an issue. There was definitely an issue. But you needed a one at least in the unvaccinated group to be able to do the math. And so they just go, well, couldn't figure that out. So anyway, I think the magnitude of the problem or the difference, that was shocking to me.

39:59I didn't expect to see numbers like that. And that's amazing. And what that documentary called? An Inconvenient Study. An Inconvenient Study. It's out right now. Anyone can watch it for free at aninconvenientstudy.com. That's amazing. One of the things, as we've talked about, you've been a big part of is this sort of bringing to light medical freedom. You know, I know when I've had my full-time practice and I've got a clinic opening here in Nashville in January, but, you know, I would always have parents come to me and say, well, my school is requiring my kids to get, you know, to get a shot. And so we would have them fill out a religious exemption form and that were in the state of Tennessee where my functional medicine practice was.

40:45And that would tend to work. Well, you know, now there's all of these different state laws and the fact that you can't even have religious freedoms in some states from that. What is something that people need to be aware of as we've gone through COVID, as we look at a lot of these different things going on? What are some things that people need to be aware of in order to keep their medical freedom? Well, first of all, the only freedoms you keep are the ones you fight for. And that's been stated by, you know, presidents throughout time and by our founding fathers. so if you think that the rights are just going to stay there i think we all woke up to that during covet i think we all recognized how little medical freedom we had left that a government could forcibly inject adults with a product that was not properly safety tested yeah uh in order to go to work uh in order to get on a plane forced to wear masks forced to like shut down many of our businesses, lock us in our homes, shut down our schools, shut down our churches.

41:43I mean, it was really pretty incredible. And we're in a time right now where I'm sure a lot of your audience and even mine are tired of talking about COVID, but then why have history books? Then why talk about how this country was founded? Why talk about the revolution? Why talk about what makes us who we are. I mean, these are the moments that define who we are. And in our lifetime, we watched the system fail us. We watched our constitution all but completely buckle. I mean, I will say we did better than almost anyone else in the world. As bad as it was here. I mean, New Zealand is also in these other countries even worse.

42:25I was just talking to Senator Antic in Australia yesterday. I was on his podcast. I mean, We were watching innocent people getting tackled by giant police officers in riot gear for walking their dog without a mask on. You know what I mean? It was crazy. Yeah, yeah. But there's a lot to this because, you know, vaccines is a very controversial topic, but it doesn't – it shouldn't be. We shouldn't, you know, be afraid of having a conversation in the United States of America because it goes into so many other issues. And I want to be clear about Robert Kennedy Jr. and the government that we now have as a result of COVID.

43:05I don't think, I mean, without COVID, I will say this, Robert Kennedy Jr. is not HHS secretary for 50 more years, at least. No matter how much work we were doing towards medical freedom, that did wake up enough people to say, hold on a second, what's going on here? But if you'll notice, all of the mainstream media that was censoring him was screaming, he's going to take your vaccines away. You know, all of this, he's going to, you know, just end, you know, polio is coming back. Smallpox is coming back. None of that's happened. Yeah. None of that's happened. And now reporters are like, are you disappointed with Robert Kennedy Jr.'s doing?

43:41I said, no, I told you this was how he was going to do. I told you he's not here to take vaccines away. He's here to see, are we taking too many at one time? Are they as safe as they could possibly be? Should we be allowed to be a part of the process? These are the types of things. And by the way, right around the corner, if you think it's okay to mandate medical products, which goes against the Nuremberg Code, something that was designed after the we tried you know 16 doctors from nazi germany and all of them i believe were hung uh after those trials every free nation came together and said what have we learned here and they said well let's put it all into a document for all of modern medicine to adhere to and that's the nuremberg code and the very first rule number one is called informed Consent.

44:32It's why I named my nonprofit the Informed Consent Action Network. And it basically states that the voluntary commitment by the patient is critical in all decisions, that they must be told all the benefits and all the potential side effects of whatever procedure or drug or vaccine or whatever medical thing that you want to do. And no use of force or coercion is allowed. Well, when a parent comes to you and says, my kid can't go to school if they don't get a blah, blah, blah, a vaccine or whatever, that's coercion. That is opposed to the Nuremberg Code, which wasn't just for America. That was the code for all of medicine in all free nations.

45:18Everywhere that you can't opt out of a vaccine, they are breaking with the Nuremberg Code. I think we should ask ourselves questions about that because right around the corner, we're about to see, I think you're going to see it in some of the really powerful liberal states. You've got Pritzker, was that his name? Governor Pritzker. Anyway, he's starting to do psychoanalysis inside of schools on all of your children. Imagine if on the back of that they decide your child needs an antidepressant and SSRI. Would you want to live in a world where the government can force your kid to take an SSRI, can force your kid to be on Ritalin or something?

45:55Yeah, of course. Because remember, that's what that pharmaceutical lobby is doing. It is saying that the only way for your children to be healthy, we need to be more involved in your children's lives. We're now the most drugged nation in the world, and we're the sickest nation in the industrialized world, certainly. Isn't it wild when you look at the stats? And it's continued to get worse. I mean, I think it's number 70 right now. I mean, it's so bad in terms of overall quality of life. And if you took malnutrition out of the equation, we would be the sickest nation in the world. Right? If you took places where they just have no food because they have other issues, we are the sickest nation there is.

46:31And we take like double the pharmaceuticals at least. At least. And so the thing about medical freedom is we should all want it. Yeah. Just like if I'm going to buy a car and I see the crash test rating, I want to know that that crash test was handled by someone that hates the company of the car I just bought. I don't want a Tesla fan that has Tesla, grew up with Tesla posters all over their house and tattooed Tesla on their arm. I don't want them doing the crash test on Tesla. I want Ford. That's right. I want your opponent doing that. And then when it says five-star rating, you know, we hated this guy, but we can't help but admit it's really safe, that's what should be happening with every product.

47:21That's what should be happening with vaccines. Vaccines should be being tested by guys like me and Robert Kennedy Jr. That's right. You know, with scientists, of course, but challenging it in the hardest way possible. And then if they proved to be safe under the rigors of that type of testing, then you go, wow, these things really are safe. But when you watch COVID, what happened there, you had an FDA and a CDC literally almost like with pom-poms before the vaccines even in its phase three trials. We are going to get this to you as quickly as possible. How do you know this thing should ever go into human beings?

47:56How did they already make that assumption? Let me ask you, I think most people realize this. pharmaceutical companies, as you mentioned, it's the most powerful industry operating in the Western world. And who is it that's benefiting the most? Obviously, you've got the CEOs and some of those people, I guess, are stakeholders. But who are the groups that are kind of pulling the strings even behind these pharmaceutical companies? I mean, I would say this. It's not just greed. It's not just people making big money, but it's sort of like a housing market. If you're selling while the products are going well.

48:31There's all the salespeople have great livings. A lot of people I've run into have grown a conscience. Like I used to be a salesperson for Pfizer. Usually they're very beautiful women, tends to be what they like to hire that go in and sell these drugs to doctors. But the truth is, is that there is a belief system around it, right? That it's making us health, it's making us better. And I do think the governments of the world are deeply entrenched in some of the things they want from it, especially in a world where we're concerned about biological warfare. Vaccines are going to be the tool you would want to have available to you.

49:15And if you come out too hard against vaccines or you destroy that industry, they'll have no ability to ramp up a product to save us should we get attacked by a terrorist that releases smallpox on the subway. At least this is the mentality. So I want to say it's not just greed and it's not, you know, there's a lot of players and there's a lot of, there is some decent reasoning behind it. It's one of the things that's happening right now. People like, why has Donald Trump got Albert Borla in the White House and Bobby's standing there? They're like, they're literally like teaming up with the guy that gave us this vaccine.

49:49And I get asked that question all the time, but I'd say, because do you want your drugs made all only in China? Do you want Pfizer to move all operations out of America so that we don't even know how they're being made? And frankly, we don't even get to be a part of the safety testing, whatever safety testing is done. Our government is it's not an easy place to work. Right. There's two functions that have to happen. We want industry to thrive in America. We want to be the melting pot of the world. We also are, you know, we want to remain as one of the richest nations in the world so that when we stand for freedom, we have a power to mean something.

50:24And so, you know, you have a real, you know, double-edged sword there that they have to deal with. Well, it's so tough. I'll share this for myself. You know, I understand the importance of emergency medicine. Yeah. And we've got an amazing system for that. I mean, I personally believe we could just completely, and I mean this, 100 % get rid of the chronic care industry of prescribing statin drugs, ADHD drugs, all of those things, zero of them, and we would be radically healthier. Agreed. But I know the problem is that they're kind of lumped in together to a degree. And it makes hard. Yeah, because there's been a few times where I saw, you know, because I saw Bill Gates in the White House sitting there with Robert F.

51:08Kennedy and Trump and thinking, what is he trying to worm in his way and do right now? I'm so sick of this guy. Can we just completely get him out of the fold? But he brings a look. He brings a lot of jobs and a lot of the things that these guys do. Silicon Valley. I mean, think about it. they didn't stop making these vaccine passports for our phones surveillance is the future of all finance in technologies you know ai for as much as it's going to help us it's going to surveil us it's going to track us all of it and there's just billions of dollars pouring into it so whether there's you know and when you watch donald trump this is where i mean i'm not saying he's perfect i mean i i'm he makes me nervous because he's so engaged with like well we got to be prosperous we We got to beat everyone with AI.

51:54We got to have the fastest, bestest AI there is. What if AI is the end of the world, dude? What if the AI is the end of freedom as we know it? Is there any part of your thinking that's looking at it that way? And this is why, like for myself, I really try and be, listen, I am a big believer in holistic medicine. I think that Trump is doing some great things. Robert F. Kennedy is doing some great things. But for me, I'm trying to live as in alignment with the Bible as possible. And, you know, when I think about the spirit that's sort of over the United States of what most people worship, it's economic progression and materialism.

52:31And so if that's still your God, even though it might be moving us away from, you know, sexualization and some other immoral things that maybe are worse, it's still not the God that you want to be following. I think it's a really good way to put it. And I think a lot of our issues are that we're becoming an atheistic nation. Yeah. I think we're really struggling right now. We're having massive moral and ethical battles, really. I mean, these lines are being drawn on issues that we're having trouble with. But, yeah, I'm the same way. I say I'm politically marooned. I obviously ran with Robert Kennedy Jr., but I ran with him as a Democrat.

53:14then we changed and we became we started running as an independent i saw problems with all of it the whole thing is rigged i can tell you one of the most important speeches anyone could ever watch is just go watch the entire speech that robert kennedy jr gave the day he stepped down from running for president and said i'm going to join president trump i was there for the whole month while he i mean you've never i mean it was rough on him i will tell you his health that the night before I even went in, Bobby looked like crap. I was like, man, he was struggling with that decision. Even though there was so much of it that seemed like the right thing to do, if you really want to save kids, Donald Trump was offering him the opportunity.

53:57We didn't know if Trump would follow through. Bobby does not agree with President Trump on all the issues in the world and Trump vice versa. But Trump said to him, let's put those things aside. The thing you really are the best at this thing with children. I want to do that too. Get in here and let's do it. So, you know, politically, what are politics? I mean, it's just trying to get people in. I was just saying, as I was driving over here with my brother, you know, you wish people knew, knew these people like Dr. Oz, like you said, you brought him up a really good guy. He's a really good guy.

54:32He's a really good guy who, I mean, you don't do a show like he did. He's loving. He's compassionate. He's empathetic. He's super smart. He's advanced the technologies of heart surgery. People don't know that. They think he's a television guy. This guy's one of the greatest heart surgeons in the world, right? Saves people's lives. And then I'll be in an interview and they're like, you know, Dr. Oz is taking away Medicare from innocent people. I was like, look, I'm not a master at Medicare. I'm not. I mean, I don't understand exactly how the whole system works, but I will tell you of all the people I've ever known to be running that department, there can't be anyone more compassionate towards human beings, human suffering, the right to needing food and SNAP programs.

55:18I mean, this guy is a beautiful human being. Yeah. All right. And so, you know, are we not going to trim the fat? Are we not overspending? Are we not have people abusing the system? Come on with the headlines. People are losing their Medicaid. I just don't. And I know Bobby the same way. Bobby's not going to take your vaccines away. He's going to make sure that those of you that want them, that they're the safest that they've ever been. He's also, look at what he's done. He's taking petroleum dyes out of our children's food. He's taking lead and arsenic out of baby food. He's going to test it.

55:49We're going to be involved with that. These are things you and I and people like us have been reporting for decades. Decades we've known we've had these issues. And then you look at he's putting together a commission to study of scientists from all sides to look at vaccines. He's got an advisory committee on immunization practices that has already approved some vaccines. So he didn't stack the deck with his own side. He's bringing people from all sides. There's real debates happening. There's real things happening. But, you know, and ultimately look at like SNAP. Can you believe that they pass basically, I guess, a rule of law?

56:26I don't know exactly, but SNAP program, you can't buy soda anymore. You're not going to, you know, if we're going to give you funding to feed your family, you're not going to buy junk food. I think it's going to get more serious. I think in the new health guidelines that is coming out in December, Bobby is starting to telegraph that they're going to go after ultra processed food. I'm not sure that ultra processed food is going to be allowed in our children's school lunches and certainly probably not. Amazing. or percentage of reducing it in SNAP programs. How is this a bad thing? When I see like, oh, he's taking freedom away from people using SNAP.

57:03I'm like, the freedom to poison themselves and don't, are we trying to make, give people nutrition and health benefits so that they can get back to work, so that they can have a life that they, and be a part of the American dream, you know? So, you know, it's been interesting to get as close to it as we have. We've never seen a moment like this. It's truly spectacular. to have, you know, Dr. Marty McCary. I mean, they're looking at holistic health. I mean, it's in the equation. They're not anti-drug. They're still passing drugs. They still, no one's, you know, lost on them. But to your point, I completely agree.

57:41Western medicine or allopathic medicine really is military medicine. It's triage. It's designed to get you back onto the field, You know, strap your leg back in, you know what I mean? That's right. Put you back together and put you back on the field. Get you up and running again. It's great at that. There's no greater ER doctors in the world than here in America. If you're in a car accident, by the way, you're going to be really happy we didn't kick Alex Burla and Pfizer out of the country. You're going to want whatever drugs they need to get you through that horrific experience, through that surgery.

58:15It has its place. But when it comes to making us healthy or maintaining health, pharma is the worst there is. You cannot convince me that there's a single drug. We weren't born drug deficient. That's right. You know, we just simply weren't. And we have a system that is taking control of all health that never actually studies health, never studies nutrition. These are things that I know you cover like crazy. But to your point, this is such an important thing. Think about this in mainstream medicine. If you would go to your financial advisor, and he's only studied poverty, and he's never studied Warren Buffett or anything in terms of how you build wealth, and you just went to somebody who studied poverty, and you're like, hey, here's all my money.

59:05I want you to invest and make money. He's probably going to lose the money. Here's he's going to lose the money, and you're not going to see these great returns. if you want to have better health, you need to go and invest your own health with somebody who has studied health. But doctors get really zero. Again, the fact of this is doctors today get zero nutrition classes. They get really zero health classes. They only get sick and disease classes. And I know actually that's something I saw RFK come out and say, we are going to mandate in the future that all medical doctors and osteopaths have nutrition courses in their curriculum.

59:43Yeah. And by the way, I would imagine every doctor would love that. Yeah. Right. I mean, like, sure. Why? I mean, I do feel like undereducated on these issues. And so it's, it's a, there's a renaissance happening right now. If, if, if we can keep pharma, you know, out of the room, you know, like just say, Hey, keep making your drugs. You're going to keep getting billions of dollars. You're going to make, you're going to do just fine, But stay out of the room of health. You've really messed this up. Every drug, we're more like every SSRI. How many SSRIs did I put in there? It's SSRI. SSRIs we put in there.

1:00:24We're only getting more depressed. It's not working. And then how many studies, by the way, Josh, how many studies need to show that serotonin and melatonin and all the things that these SSRIs are supposed to be a part of aren't even working the way they did or are a part of this process? is the way I think it is. And it's all happening actually in our stomach and not in our brain. I mean, I'm reading all these headlines going, then why is this still the most prescribed drug in the world? It should be over by now. This is the wrong approach. Isn't it crazy? It's crazy. I mean, it should be overnight.

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1:02:13And so that's where, when I look at all of this, I always look at things from the point of media. It's why I really love what I do. Politics is only going to get this so far. And leaders will only be able to get as much done as the people will permit. We still are a nation of, for, and by the people. And it's why when I see people that know what's right, when they know how to be healthy with their own lives, they know where to get the exemption for their own children. They know what states they want to live in, all of that. But they're not really helping their neighbor. And they're just saying, hey, I don't want to get into it.

1:02:51If you don't get into it, then we remain as a minority and then we are conquerable and our truth and our values can be destroyed and removed from this earth. I do think that's what the pandemic was about. It tried to close it out. It overreached. Thank God. It played its hand way too hard. It revealed its lack of science in a major way, which I'm capitalizing on. but it's our work as citizens, our work as people, our work talking to each other that changes this world. Bobby's only going to get so much done. Marty and great guys, but they're in a cesspool up there and they've got tens of thousands of employees.

1:03:34They're probably fighting them at every turn. Cali Means just came out and said that there's a CIA document being passed around to all of Bobby's employees to undermine him. What do you think? I'm like, well, that's the governments the cia it's corrupt is it yeah yeah is that a shock i'll tell you who's not shocked by that robert kennedy jr exactly he's like oh forget it then i'm not doing this job what did he knew yeah what he was up against but i mean we moved the needle more than anything it's been crazy to me because we have um i got a friend of mine dr will cole he just did this panel with somebody and there's this nutritionist and a few other mds that you know that i think they're getting paid by some of these pharmaceutical companies and agricultural companies.

1:04:17And they're criticizing Bobby for being unscientific, for moving the chemically petroleum-based food dyes out of the cereal. And you're like, really? The Biden administration did nothing, and then he's making all of these positive changes moving forward in the future. But I'm thrilled where we're at. I'm thrilled with the growth we've seen in terms of just the natural health movement. And when I opened my practice in 2007, about 18 years ago, you know, I remember having people raise their hand. How many of you have heard of an omega-3 fatty acid? Almost nobody. So now, I mean, we've just continued to see more and more people become educated and aware.

1:05:02And so we're moving in the right direction. Well, I think you have to be aware and cautious of what I've already stated, which is your news anchors are never going to tell you the truth. As long as you're counting pharmaceutical ads, that's who's giving you your information. Just know that. Just know that. Until you see Josh Axe commercials and Del Bigger commercials or whatever we're working on or holistic health commercials and those become the majority, then you can say, oh, my God, the world's changed. I can trust. Or at least I know that that's now the bias. The bias is going to be pharma.

1:05:34It's going to continue to be pharma. I want to point out that as bad as the pandemic was, we still haven't really seen any mainstream health experts apologize for the mistakes that were made. That's right. You know what I mean? There's been no apology for social distancing, which Tony Fauci said in front of the Congress was just made up, had no basis in science. There's no science in locking us down from a virus. Australia locked itself down. It was an island. It was an island. It was the best experiment you could possibly have that didn't have COVID yet. They didn't let anyone in, didn't let anyone out.

1:06:07And in the end, they had to open their doors at some point or they would have just shriveled up and died because they need commerce. They need a life. What happened? Just as many people, if not more, died in Australia and they were already vaccinated. So you want to talk about an experiment? Australia was the experiment. We locked it down. No one got here, didn't have the virus, vaccinated everybody, and we still died at the same rate. So the whole thing is an absolute disaster. And then you look at remdesivir and the ventilators that killed nine out of 10 people living through how many people died in hospitals where their loved ones couldn't stand by their side.

1:06:43There's a reckoning that needs to happen that has not happened. And for that reason, I think we could die waiting for it. I really think the work that needs to be done now is, as we've said, the ER is there if you've messed up. You know, if you need an organ transplant, ask yourself right now, why don't you clean up your life right now? Don't get yourself to the point where you need an organ transplant. When people say they're going to make me vaccinate in order to get the organ transplant, I was like, well, I mean, when in Rome, this is how this system works. If you're having to pull things out of your body, whatever is going on has gone too far.

1:07:18we need to build a world where Josh Axe and people like you are actually who we're involved with the moment our baby is born on this earth. Not to a pediatrician that doesn't know anything about the 10 vaccines they're going to give you at one time. You should be seeing a chiropractor. You should be seeing an acupuncturist. You should be seeing a homeopath, if anything at all. You should be definitely engaged in your own nutrition. And that's what I'm focused on. I really want to build a healthcare system. That's what I'm working with a bunch of people right now. A place where you can learn about all the modalities that aren't going to give you a drug and find what's right for you.

1:07:57A place where you can get into fitness and you can get into nutrition. Where do we find it? And then what is that system? Can we build a system of our own big enough where eventually we do our own licensing? Pharma is not licensing for us. Why would pharma be on the board of licensing for a chiropractor? How does that make any sense whatsoever? So there's things there that I think we need to change. I think we should be taking this opportunity not to invest in our government and, you know, and wait for Bobby to make a health care system that heals us. We've got to build it now. We have a pause button right now where we're not being censored.

1:08:32We're not being shut down. Right now we have a government that's open to holistic health. That doesn't mean we go ahead and tie ourselves to the Medicaid system and the Medicare system and how do I get reimbursed by it? No way. That is always going to be the death star. You know, it has to, it thinks about too many people at one time. Pharma is too involved, will be involved. We need to build that new system together. We need to start building communities of health. We've got to start getting engaged with, you know, a woman when she's, you know, pregnant. You know, how are you dealing with your prenatal situation?

1:09:04How are you going to give birth? What does that natural birth look like? How do we get these children started on the right path? Because every chiropractor in the world, look at their kids. right we should be running saying i want my kids to look like every chiropractor's kids you know this is one thing i've brought up pretty frequently is when i think about the group of people that's been the most uh outspoken against people like against all the lockdowns during covid all those things it's been chiropractors followed by naturopaths functional medicine doctors that have really been the most outspoken and they're also the healthiest group of people they are it's Do you want to listen to whoever the former HHS person was?

1:09:42I know. Or Robert F. Kennedy Jr., who's 70 doing push-ups. Yeah. It looks like he could be, you know. Doing pull-ups. I mean, he's doing like 50 pull-ups. Amazing. Absolutely amazing. So I'm absolutely with you. And I think you've got, man, there's a lot of exciting stuff coming up. I want to let people, I want you to remind people where they could find you. The High Wire, also your new documentary. So thehighwire.com, every Thursday I do a live show. I think this upcoming Thursday next week, I've got Russell Brand, which is going to be a blast. But we cover all of the cutting-edge understanding.

1:10:15Drugs are being recalled, things that are on the chopping block, the latest studies, safety trials, all of it. It's sort of like the doctors, which I worked on, only telling you the complete and total truth. Nothing but the truth. And then an inconveniencedudy.com. this film is a tool that it's just even if you think you know it this film is really came out beautifully it is laying it out so clearly and all of the reviews we're getting are just from people saying i finally found something i handed to my friend that just wasn't listening didn't quite or a family member that was you know not really asking about vaccines or was just starting but i couldn't get through to them this film is really helping people understand the issue and This is, in a nutshell, the question we should all be asking that the film asks.

1:11:05Why is it that not a single regulatory agency anywhere in the world, not a single government, not the best governments, even America, not a major medical institution like Kaiser Permanente or until this moment, Henry Ford Health just did it. But why have none of them ever been able to do a study that compares the vaccinated to the unvaccinated and show us that the vaccinated are actually healthier? Wasn't that the whole point of this program? Wasn't to make our kids healthier? And if you can't produce a study that shows that they are, we have a problem. And so the study at the center, this unpublished study, let me say that.

1:11:48I've been sent a cease and desist letter by Henry Ford Elf. I don't want to misrepresent. They didn't publish it. That's what this is about. I wore hidden cameras to go and interview, I mean, have dinner with Dr. Zervos to ask him why he wasn't publishing it. It's a big part of the film. It's super interesting to see the conversation and the battle going on inside of him. It's really fascinating. But ultimately, we should want evidence. This is all I want. What I want is people to be skeptical enough to stop taking experts' opinions on things. Well, the experts say that Robert Kennedy Jr. is wrong.

1:12:23They have done placebo-based trials. That's not an answer any longer. You're too smart for that. We're too smart for that. We did this during COVID. We need to say, where's the evidence that this is going to stop transmission? Because you lied. You said it was 95 % effective. It was 0 % effective. Everybody that got the vaccine got sick. Okay? So now we know they lie. So experts shouldn't matter. Tony Fauci was an expert. That shouldn't matter anymore. What we want is on the front page of the New York Times, every placebo-based trial that's ever been done on a childhood vaccine. They'll never print it because they don't exist.

1:12:52It's never been done. They're not safety testing these products. And then that should bother people. How is that? I know it's like your cathedral is falling down, right? But we need to demand evidence now for every statement made. You don't just get to say, that's not true. Robert Kennedy Jr. is wrong. Show me your evidence then. And I say this to every news reporter. I said, when are you going to hand me the placebo-based trials? When are you going to hand me some evidence? Because on our side, we are doing nothing but handing you peer-reviewed science, you know, page upon page upon page. We are now controlling this conversation.

1:13:26We're in a beautiful position. The world is waking up. America especially is waking up. We have great leadership right now. We need to make as much hay as we can right now. We need to make the world a better place. We need to make America strong again. We can never get to a place where we can be forcibly injected by our government. or we are no longer free. We have the same rights as farm animals. And I mean that. Every American, no matter what you believe about the vaccine program, should believe that you should always have a choice. If we lose the right to choose, then we lose this dream and anything is possible.

1:14:01If your government can force something on your body, anything, any atrocity is now possible. We need to take that out of their arsenal. Yeah, I totally agree. And this medical freedom is so critical. and I'm just so grateful for you being on the front lines of exposing the truth of being a big part of Robert F. Kennedy Jr. being where he's at today and thanks so much. I want to encourage everybody to check out all the amazing things Del here is up to, The High Wire, you can check out his show there, An Unconvenient Truth, his amazing documentary, Vaxxed, his prior documentary. I want to say thanks everybody for tuning in here to the Dr.

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1:15:15You know, there are millions of people that have had their health freedoms taken away or that are being blocked, and they don't know the truth, and they don't know that there's options. And so sharing this is a great thing for also just getting the word out there. So thanks so much for doing that. Thanks, everybody, for taking part of this. Thanks to Dale Bigtree for being part of the show today. We'll see you on the next episode.

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