The Real Reason Your Gut Won’t Heal (And How Bone Broth Fixes It) | Dr. Kellyann Petrucci

25:54We see this as well. Like if somebody goes from eating almost no fiber to a lot or no protein to a lot, they get gas. Oh, big time. And it happens. Now, listen, two months later, it'll be gone. And so that's why you kind of want to creep it up a little bit at a time and not just go from, you know, just overnight doing 50 grams of fiber. That's way too much. But all that being said, your body gets accustomed to this. I also wrote a study about a year ago on pomegranates. And, you know, there's only about, I want to say, when somebody eats a pomegranate, around 50 % of people take allergic acid from pomegranates and they can turn it into urolithin A, this amazing compound for mitochondrial health.

26:31But 50 % of people can't do it very well. Well, in the other study, it said, well, one of the best ways to increase your conversion is just keep eating pomegranates because it might start at 40%, but if you keep eating it, your body will start to, and if your gut microbiome is just relatively healthy, it will get to the point where you eventually two months from then have the right bacteria where you can make the conversion. We always go back to these homeopathic laws. We really do. It comes back to that. Living in London, they had homeopathic hospitals everywhere, and it was so interesting to me to learn about it.

27:05But this whole thing that you brought up at the beginning about like versus like and adaptation, really, so to speak, and your body needing this adaptation. So it's interesting. And a lot of people also have this kind of get well hack where they say eating a lot of the same foods is something that's very healing. So there's always this cross reaction I have to that. And I know we're going to get to the microbiome, but really understanding that diversity is the most key element and having this internal terrain that's firing off for you and doing what it needs to do. It needs diversity, but yet there's other elements of the body that when you stick to static, more static, your body seems to respond really well to things like weight loss or to things like inflammation or to things like energy.

27:56Well, I think, so here's the principle, and it's very much like working out. When somebody, I'll share this for myself. So when I had, I had a spinal infection a few years ago, didn't walk for a year. When I started coming back, there's almost no exercises I could do. And so like one exercise was like I laid on my back, pressed my heels into a bench and pressed up with a light weight to activate my posterior chain, my hamstrings and other areas. And that was the one exercise that started getting me out of pain. But it was one total exercise. I couldn't bench press. I couldn't do anything. But then over time, I started doing more and more and more and more because I think our gut microbiome works the same way.

28:34There's a – Jordan Rubin and I talked about this a lot. If somebody's really sick, putting them on more of a mono diet. For instance, for one meal, you only eat a pear. And then you only eat an avocado. Then you only eat a salmon filet. Then you only drink a cup of bone broth because it's the easiest thing for your body to do. And so same thing for kids. Honestly, it really goes back to this. Eat like you're a baby, act like you're one years old, and then start to build out your palate over time. But when somebody's sick, the first thing you got to do is protect and rest and allow it to just get back to sort of out of acute pain or dysfunction.

29:07And then I think you start to add those little elements over time. You know, like you start with the green beans and avocado and egg yolk, and then you kind of work your way out. I like Think Like a Baby. That's your next book. I like that. You got it. Yeah. So, you know, but think about it again, akin to how our genetics are kind of formulated or formed, if you will. It's that whole, you have abundance, then you have scarcity, and then you have restoration. Then you start to restore. So I think when we just pummel, pummel, pummel, pummel, where, you know, there's some kind of evolutionary need that I feel like, which is why I advocate for bone broth, fasting or fasting, if your body is ready for it.

29:46Well, to your point, one of the great things about bone broth that you brought up is like, well, it's in a peptide form. Yes. And that just means that, okay, it's not even a protein. There's your shorter chains of amino acids. It's easier to digest. Your body has to do almost no work to break down and utilize peptides versus it. There is more work with protein. There's actually way more work with vegetables, which is surprising to some people versus me. Well, one of the things that sparked my interest was that when I was reading these books in the beginning days, It talked about Mother Teresa bringing the bone broth to hospitals.

30:19And here was the key phrase, to open the gut to healing. Now, had I not studied in Europe, which was way ahead, like you're young. You were young to catch on and really understand this. I would never have known anything about the power of what it could do. Had I not been a student of Dr. Thomas Ryle, this Paracelsus Clinic in Switzerland, when he talked about gut health, friend or foe. Amazing. He talked about all, and that one paragraph clicked. I said, wait, what was that? What was that? And I read it again. Mother Teresa would bring bone broth into hospitals to open the gut to healing. Wow.

30:56And so the power, the power of bone broth again, and not to beat this to death, but the power of it is how many proteins do you know that do so much? Like you said, peptide. It's like people talk about peptides. This is the ultimate peptide. That's right. That goes in there and it's easy on the body. And that's where the restoration comes in because it's just easy on the body. You know, some things, Josh, just don't have to be hard. Well, I'll tell you, I think, and this is something I see even more today than I think in the past. There's been a shift in mentality. I think when I look at some of the more seasoned and wise practitioners, they treat the body with just a level of kindness and care and, and trying to get it to rest and sort of just lightly nourish it and strengthen it a little bit every day.

31:48Today, when I see some of these influencers online, it's like, okay, let's start doing an hour cold plunge. I'm exaggerating. Okay. But it's like, no, they do. It's very hard. It's like, we're going to go and do a parasite cleanse while cold plunging. And I'm like, okay, well, that's a terrible idea. I mean, the biggest principle, if you want to, this is the biggest step I see people skipping when it comes to doing all of these cleansing, including parasite and mold, strengthen the body first. Yes. The pathways have got to be open. You have detoxification pathways. And even with GLP-1, you have to understand a lot of these people on GLP-1s, they have either shrinking fat cells, they're shrinking fat cells, which harbors all of this detoxification necessities.

32:33So you got to always think about these pathways. And I know when you hear this, it sounds so like painful and laborious. You're thinking, oh my God, what are they telling me? Like the people watching, like I have to go through all of that, but you do have these pathways and they have to be honored because you can try to do everything right. Everything right. Again, the best intentions, but if these pathways, your circulation, your lymphatics, these pathways, if they are not flowing, and I mean, that's vibrance. That's real vibrance in a human when you're around somebody that's setting off electric, like she's just electrical, he's just electric.

33:08It's really having all these pathways open and being able to open yourself to the wisdom that's before you, whatever it is that you want to accomplish or whatever you want to do, whatever messages that you want to listen to and hear. It's really about having all these channels and gates open and healthy and being in a restorative place to do so. Yeah. And just as an example, just really practically for people, let's say, again, we've used parasites as an example here. Let's say, you know, you know that you've got these GI issues and it might be a parasite. Rather than going really hard for the wormwood and black walnut, you're probably better off at first drinking bone broth and doing more of a GAPS diet, drinking some ginger tea every single day.

33:47I mean, bone broth and ginger tea. I mean, talk about just the ultimate combo for healing your gut and like strengthening your body, you know, getting some rest, do a little infrared sauna. and then, hey, once your body feels strong enough, that might be in four weeks, it might be in eight weeks. Hey, then do the two-week cleanse with the clove and the black walnut and the, you know, neem. The chelating, the binders and the this and the that. And the binders and all of that. You know, cleanse, open the pathways, you know, use magnesium, do all of that and then get back to nourishing your body again to recover from the detox because most detoxes are challenging your body and in a way eating up a lot of your energy and you need to have energy to start with before you walk into that.

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35:17If you want to check it out and grab one before they're gone, just go to mybloodwork.com now. Hey, I would love to hear. I did not know that you spent time in that clinic in Switzerland. What was that like? This was probably the pinnacle of my career, and it really taught me more than I've ever learned anywhere in my career. So Dr. Thomas Rao, who is a profoundly unbelievable holistic medical doctor who gets how the body works and uses German technologies and a lot of Chinese medicine, diagnostics, you know, like having a Morin machine there, like all these, like it's nothing to them. Okay. They understand the pulse and the beat of the body to get the energetics back of the cellular system to heal things like cancer.

36:10And I saw it with my own two eyes. Okay. They, you know, you have to meet - What were some of the things you guys were doing there? Okay. So let me describe that. So first of all, I was working with Dr. Thomas Rowe with a group, a very small group. I was so lucky because Josh, I had just had a baby and I knew that Dr. Rowe was going to do this program for two years. And the whole idea was there was this woman in Kentucky, her husband was healed and she was a very wealthy woman. And she said, you know, I am going to support having Dr. Rao come here and teach these American doctors in addition to paying for visits to go.

36:48But I'm going to have him teach these doctors because American doctors need to know this. So I just had a baby and I thought, gosh, do I do this? Do I do this? This is going to be a push. I did it. You know, it was that inner voice. That was that instinct that said, you got to do this. I am so glad that I did. So one of the things that Dr. Rao would do for, and by the way, he never did that again. He thought it was too much time away from his family flipping back and forth. So he decided never to do this two years again. So when we go into the clinic, he would do things like stick up a panoramic x-ray of the mouth and he'd say, tell me what's wrong with this patient.

37:23He would talk about how dental and dental hygiene and your teeth and how it was so linked to the body. He would talk about things like different seasons and the behavior of your body during different seasons and the different needs of that body during different seasons. He would talk about things that would actually help people, things like art therapy, things like sound therapy. He would talk a lot about lower... So you have to understand when this was. Okay, this was a long time ago. I mean, my son, I was pregnant with my son. He's 24 now. So this was a long time ago. And he would talk about things that we were not talking about.

38:04A whole premise was a lot about gut health. So I was talking about gut health or learning about it and understanding it in the early nineties. No one was talking about it. He was talking about inflammation, the way it impacts your body, anti-inflammatory foods, and walking towards that life of being in that state where you don't have high inflammation and what it can do for your life. He talked just a lot of different things and it was very nuanced and it was very real and it was very new at that time. But I know that you are a lover of Chinese medicine. And that's where I learned to really love it and how he used it for diagnostics.

38:42And he would do a lot with the energetic, energetics, and this is hard for people to understand that, that aren't, they've never heard it before. The energetics of the cells. So the pulse, the cadence of the cells and what that means to the body, looking at blood under a microscope and saying, okay, where's the pleomorphism here? You know, how are the cells changing or how's the blood changing? What does it look like? What should it look like? What are the interferences? It had a lot to do with what we call miasms or interferences in the body and where things are dropping in the body. So if you feel a pain or you have something going on, where is it dropping in the body?

39:21Where did it start? Very, very fascinating. And the thing is, is I learned in that study, that two-year study, that we're not just skin and bones, that we are atoms and molecules. Yeah, wow. And we have an internal sensory system that's constantly communicating that we need to listen to, that we need to listen to. And then that's the system that really gets us well. It's that wisdom, it's spirituality. Spirituality is essential. And if I can just go off on a spin here. My son had a terrible acne problem. Couldn't figure it out. Breastfed, you know, all this stuff. I couldn't figure it out. But he was always that kid.

39:57He's working in Washington, D.C. now at the Admiral. He's always been like a high achiever. Okay. This, this type of kid, uh, did really well in the Academy, went to an Academy, like stellar kid, but I didn't realize that he was holding in a lot of, uh, anxiety, uh, and trying to achieve all of this. He ended up getting very involved in spirituality and I'm not pushing anything on anyone other than to say that you need it in some way. He started letting go of tightness, holding on because everything constricts. You have to remember that. All of these vascular systems, all these systems in our body that we need to flow.

40:35Remember I said, you want everything flowing like a river, not like a swamp, not tight. He started letting go of a lot and started being much more faith-based, believing, believing, having a whole different mindset, having a whole different belief system in the internal intelligence of the body and your ability to understand that it's already there. You're just grabbing the crown, understanding all of this, his acne went away. Wow. Okay. This is a real true story. His acne went away. So that is how powerful all of these things are. So when Dr. Rao talks about things like, you know, doing music therapy, when he talks about doing art therapy, there is a reason for that.

41:18And he understood that. He understood that. He talked a lot about having life force in the home, like pets and, you know, how profoundly good they were for a family. uh, just all these kinds of things. So it's not thinking about health, wellness, longevity, gut health, perimenopause, menopause, blah, blah, blah, all this stuff. It's not one singular thing. It's like the moat is not one thing. Yeah. This is, there's a vertical to it. Yeah. There's a vertical to it. And it's a beautiful, and once, you know, you and I are so lucky that we have been in this business for as long as we have. I feel like now, everywhere I go, it's all anyone talks about health, wellness, longevity, like 12 year old guys at the, at the gym, at the, at the protein bar, at the smoothie bar talking about, Oh, did you do your, I sat on my vibration play.

42:08Never in a million years did I think I'd see this. Yeah. It's crazy. You know, I go back to, you know, almost 20 years ago when I started practice and, um, it is just radically different. It's in terms of how far we've come in terms of, I mean, when I first started doing nutrition, I mean, I'll say this, 99 % of medical doctors thought that practicing nutrition was absolutely useless. I mean, now it's probably 50%. So, I mean, it's like - Absolutely, okay. Yeah. So, I had one patient, another funny patient story. I had one patient who came in and this was a patient who definitely needed nutrition.

42:44And you have to really be able to evaluate this in someone. That's why I love that. I always say boots on the ground, docs are the best. You have sat, you, Josh, myself, have sat in front of people, heard their stories, put the algorithms together to know what works, what doesn't work to the best of your ability. It's a very different thing than just coming up with a product. It's so entirely different. And, you know, I had a patient come in and she definitely needed some nutrition. She's trying to get pregnant. She needed some nutrition. And so I put her on a protocol. And one of the things I learned when living in London is there were these places in London that they had set up that women would go before they wanted to conceive.

43:25And I learned a lot from studying that. And so I put her on this protocol. She came back her next visit and she had a bag with her. I went, it's never good when they have a bag with them. It's never good because you're going to have to go through all this event, like something's going on. So she goes, my doctor, she said, I laid them out, medical doctor, her GP, and kicked them off the table, like flung them off the table with his hand and said, this is absolutely ridiculous. You can't possibly think this is going to help you conceive a child. So that was the state of mind, which was pretty rampant at that time.

44:03It's changing, though. It's definitely better than it was. because my first, I don't know about you, the first half of my career, all I did was convincing. I was in the convincing business. I like to think of myself in the problem-solving business, but I wasn't. I was the first half of my career. I've been in this 30 years, as I said. For 15 years, Josh, all I did was convince. So listen to this. When I had, so my first practice, I, to your point, there was such a, like, my number one goal was help people heal. My mom had beat cancer naturally. I started seeing people see healing miracles in their body.

44:36And the biggest thing I came across was people believing that changing their diet or getting a chiropractic adjustment or doing a detoxification would help. So I did with everybody an hour orientation before they could become a patient. And they had to bring their spouse. And that was because the other thing that would happen is, you know how many women came in? You know, I'm thinking like the average, like a woman in their 40s, bringing, you know, she wants to get her family healthy. and then she comes and I talk and then her husband's like, you know, from home. Hogwash. Hogwash. Yeah, exactly.

45:10But then they would come and I would explain, here's our current medical system. Here's how it works. Here's how, like I would just educate them for an hour. And typically the majority of the time, the husband then was on board. The wife was on board. They would start getting care together as a family. And we'd see healing miracles of the mom getting off of their thyroid medication, the dad getting off the cholesterol drug, the kids getting off the ADHD drugs, and they were able to heal. but it took convincing and really strong education. So it became like the whole mandate for my clinic. It was like, educate, educate, educate, because most people didn't, I mean, it just, it was such a battle.

45:43That is such a good mandate to put into place, but now need not because all of these platforms, like I said, I cannot believe it everywhere I go. It is the most, I mean, if you just realized like at my age to see this, it is profoundly interesting. And knowing Josh, that TikTok is now the new doctor. You're getting that, right? You're getting that. So, so all of the, you know, with everyone being on all of these platforms, the mom's on there, the dad's on there, the kids are on there and you know, they're all making their, I think the recipes and things there's of a lot value. And I used to do a lot of television debunking these TikTok trends and whether they had value or not and whether there's something good for us to learn.

46:29But I do think there are some basic things that people are learning, you know, some castor oil packs, they're, they're into that, they're into red lights, they're, they're into, you know, higher protein there. And, and, and when I started out and people talked about not having gluten or not having dairy or what kind of dairy, like a lot of Western price type of, strategy, so to speak. Nobody understood it, but they do now. Yeah. You know, I think the biggest challenge today is there's so much information out there. And the problem is that may be great for one person, bad for another. I mean, I think this is really where personalized medicine comes in and personalized nutrition, because everybody needs something uniquely catered towards them.

47:12They do. They need a specific nutrition plan, specific supplement plan. And I can tell you, Because we have my clinic in Nashville, the longevity clinic that I have here, where I go through patient files, create their blood work reports, do all of that. Like, I have not had a single person with the same blood work as another person, you know? And so every nutrition plan, every supplement plan is totally different. See, I love that. And, you know, again, to your point, I don't think I always use how we're wired, how our genetics are as a starting point. like you talked about culturally and foods that are to our region or to our genetics in a sense, like Italians maybe, or Asian people, that's a starting point.

47:59But if you think about the gut microbiome, and what's so fascinating is there's so many microbes in there. There's as many microbes as there is, depending on the research you look at, as many as we have blood cells or maybe even more, right? So if you look at that and out of that, there's trillions of cells, there's microbes, trillions of microbes. We have hundreds of different diversities and each individual could have a hundred different diverse species in their gut. But here's the fascinating part. No two people have the same. No two people have the same. So if you think about that internal fertilizer, kind of the command center, which mandates so many parts of our body and so many things, even our brain health, we're finding more and more about the link to GABA and to serotonin and to dopamine and the manifesto, all of this.

48:56Think about that. If we're not even the same here, you have to understand so much. It's not what we eat. It's what we absorb, the nutrients we take in. That's individual. So think about that. There has to be a connection there to need more personalization. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I totally agree. You know, I think too, listen, I do think there are good things. Like, for instance, another thing I've done with people is I think that, you know, I've created protocols for this for a lot of people. and I know we do this at the Health Institute too, is we'll create like, okay, a program for Hashimoto's thyroiditis.

49:31Because everybody that has Hashimoto's thyroiditis, there tends to be a lot of overlap. Like most of them all are deficient in selenium, deficient in vitamin D. Yes, the algorithm. Yeah, to your point, the algorithm. So there are ways you can do this more simply in terms of saying, okay, I've got Hashimoto's or I've got a parasite or I've got these menopausal symptoms and there are key herbs, key supplements, key foods that'll help those people. I do want to dive into menopause hormones for a little bit for women. What have you seen in terms of foods and supplements and just generally, even other treatments most help women going through perimenopause and menopause?

50:09Here's the fascinating, I'll just give you like the overriding fruit here and then we'll go into it. There are some women, so if you are somebody that's suffering with hot flashes, one of the most perplexing and interesting discoveries I've had in women and even in myself and looking and monitoring differences because I've been through all of the marks, the markers of perimenopause and menopause. Some women have hot flashes and some women don't. So let's just stop there and think about that. So that means that we're not genetically wired to have hot flashes if some do and some don't, which is a very interesting point.

50:49So the correlation, because I'm bringing this up because I think that's where the most suffering comes from. Women are very uncomfortable. The two patterns that I find that women most uncomfortable with are sleep patterns and hot flashes. So hot flashes, there is such a link to the HPA axis. So what does that mean? That means that your stress control system, we call it the HPA axis. And when that axis is thrown out of whack, you have more intense hot flashes. And so to put it in easier terms, cortisol. So cortisol is a big strike point for women. And so what we can do is anything that modifies your stress, that's possible.

51:43I'll tell you a supplement that's very helpful, or I should say remedy, saffron. Saffron is monster good. If you are someone that's listening that suffers from hot flashes, hear me and hear me now. Saffron is exquisite. It does such a good job of calming and quelling all of the points in your body which exacerbate hot flashes. The other thing that exacerbates it, like I don't drink any alcohol. I wouldn't. And I think that there's a certain time and I had my fun. I just want you to know that I have my fun. Okay. So I don't have angel wings. Okay. I've had my fun, but a woman who reaches the precipice of having her estrogen start to drop and start to notice these different digestive functionalities, because when we start getting older, as does your estrogen drop, so does your digestion slow.

52:36This is a natural metabolic function, natural metabolic function. So alcohol will pummel that. And I hate to say this, this was like me putting people on an anti-inflammatory protocol, the 21-day bone broth diet. This was like me trying to reset people's metabolism and telling them no wine. And when I started doing that with patients, I had no idea how many people drank wine at night. And I get the self-medication. I get how life beats you down. Let's not act like it doesn't. Life is not a straight line. Life is very all over the map. And sometimes people reach to wine or other alcohol, not because they're out partying, but they're using it as self-medication.

53:21Please understand I have a heart for that. I truly, truly do. But if you are someone who is suffering with menopause, perimenopause, it's got to go. And one sip of alcohol for most women in perimenopause or menopause, and I hate to say it because it's such a boring truth, but even one sip often sets the signaling off in the body where you're up all night or you fall asleep for two hours and that's it. That's all she wrote. So one of the things for the uncomfortable symptom of hot flash is that HPA axis, which is the control center of your body, the stress control center. We've got to do something to get that center where your levels are low.

54:03You've got that cortisol is not whacked out. I promise you it will make such a difference. And one of the things that you might want to study for anyone watching, listening is Japanese culture. They don't have hot flashes. Did you know that? Yeah. What? Yeah. Okay. So how do you make sense of that? So I know I like best practices. So if I was somebody that didn't, that had hot flashes, I'd be saying, what does the Japanese doing? I mean, fermented foods is something that they abide by on a big, big, big level. So if I were a woman with hot flashes, I probably would listen to Dr. Kellyanne and just do a test and see alcohol versus no alcohol, see what it does.

54:41I would start looking at calming down my stress control center, my HPA axis, maybe have a little bit of saffron. Saffron's extremely expensive, but it's very efficacious. It works really well. And all these things, they play in. Yeah. Well, I think Japanese culture too, it's more relaxed. By the way, that's not true across the board. That's true in Okinawa. That may not be true in some of the bigger cities there. But I do think that when I look at their diet, I just read this study, I think it's somewhere like 68 % of people in Japan drink grain tea every day. Every day. I mean, that's crazy. They said over 80 % drink it every week.

55:24I mean, they have somewhere like, it's like 99 ,000 centurions. Wow. So there are 100 ,000 centurions in Japan. They eat a lot of sweet potato, a lot of fish, a lot of fish broth, a lot of seaweed. These are all prebiotics though. Are you getting the picture? Like a lot of this, So it goes back to that basic premise that we were talking about. It's these healthy fats that make a huge difference. Everything that you're talking about, you're getting the right kind of fats. You're getting that fermentation. It's all very, very clear to me. It's all very clear. So, you know, look at that best practice and see how that can make a difference.

56:02And also one of the supplements that I really stand by is magnesium at night. Yeah. I think magnesium at night really does make a difference. And again, test it on yourself. You know, do your own test and get a high quality magnesium and see what that can do for you. I think that it's good to have those levels proper anyway. You want to have a good magnesium level. It's because it's, again, it's controls so many different things that taking it at night is a good idea. You know, something I think I picked up from you today is when you're talking about people seeing results in their health overall, there's really two main systems you want to look at.

56:37Again, this is me summarizing what I'm picking up from you. The first brain and the second brain. Your brain really tied to cortisol release. It's HPA axis, really where it starts. Keeping that, you've talked about spiritual health and balance there. Saffron, of course, that impacts mood positively. Magnesium really does both. It is a gut tonic for constipation and it supports relaxation. So there's brain and then gut health, right? We've talked a lot about bone broth. You've talked about fermented foods. You've talked about ginger. You've talked about all of these different things collectively.

57:06And I really think that if you can focus on two hormones to be conscious of, cortisol and insulin, I mean, if you can fix cortisol and insulin. Bravo, bravo, bravo. Okay. These are two. I mean, in insulin, that's the only reason why when I talk about fasting, and I want to make this clear, it's not for everyone. And I understand that. It's not for everyone. But when you're talking about, again, a water fast, you're talking about going to that deep state of autophagy, as we call it, which is like hitting the compost button in your body, you have to be ready. One has to be ready for that. But if you do something like bone broth fasting, and it's almost like an intermittent fast with bone broth, and you do that cadence, that timing where, you know what, I'm going to eat eight hours or six hours, whatever it is that works for you.

57:57and that's the only time I'm going to eat. What happens is you become metabolically flexible. That insulin that we talk about, that hormone, you gotta fix it because if you go to nursing homes, I'm sorry, I gotta bring it down a little bit. But if you go to nursing homes, what you see are a lot of stroke patients and there's a lot of stroke wards and you wanna go somewhere sad, you wanna get a real lesson on humanity and how you need to do your part in humanity, go to a nursing home, okay? And when you start observing why they're there and how the world, a lot of the practices that we have, unfortunately, are setting us up to end there, that's why listening to people like you, myself, the other health people that we have out there that has dedicated their life to helping keep you out of there, most of them are strokes from blood sugar problems, from diabetes.

58:49So fix it. You know, as I've looked at, I mean, now, just this year alone, hundreds of different blood work reports. I have almost never seen a high ApoB, high LDL, one of those without an issue with fasting glucose or A1C levels, without blood sugar being high. I mean, almost every time. I mean, I think it's well over 90 % of the time, probably more like 98. If somebody is having an issue with their heart, it started from blood sugar. ApoB is something to really pay attention to. And I'm glad that we are having discussions about that now. And I hear a lot more longevity doctors talking about that because that inverse, you're right.

59:25It's very true. So I feel like we get so indoctrinated by watching all these videos and all these things on all of these platforms. And I love how you broke it down. So let's just like step back and let's, you know, make this easy. The first thing that you have to fix is your metabolic system. And the easiest way in which to do that is to pay attention to cortisol and pay attention to insulin. Yeah. Yeah. And these come from daily health practices. You're waking up in the morning, spending time in prayer and gratitude, or just going on a walk, but doing some things, having some margin in your day and week to where you're not doing something every moment.

1:00:02You have time for you, time for relaxation, and just time to have fun. I actually think that's incredibly important what you said about starting with some kind of faith. I don't care what that faith is if you're listening to certain music, that puts you in a faith space, but your cells do resonate accordingly. Let me just say that. So one of the best places that you can put your body is in a grateful state. And it's not always easy just to be there. And people just say, you have to work at it. To be grateful when life can beat you down, you actually have to be a practicum. You actually have to make this a foundational and intentional foundational point of your day.

1:00:51So as soon as your feet hit the floor, it's what I tell my boys, let's just get it done right away. So make it a practice that that stimuli of your feet hitting the floor is when you say, I'm grateful, here are three things. Yeah, that's so good. That's so good. Yeah, I just try, I try and do the very similar thing, like go on a walk in the morning and then, I mean, music can change this for you probably faster than anything if you put on a positive Christian song or some sort of song that's very uplifting and didn't have that gratitude practice on a 10, 15 minute walk in the morning. I mean, that's a, but it's important.

1:01:21You know, when I think about when my days are going the best and I'm being the best dad I can and the best husband I can and the best leader I can and the best doctor I can, I am starting with that practice in the morning. And then to your point as well, it's eating clean, it's eating more protein, more fiber, more probiotic rich foods, more healthy fats. These things that really help set insulin, you know, the right course for insulin for the rest of the day. And you just have to learn it. And once you get the system down, you get the patterning down, then it's not hard. You're just doing it.

1:01:50It's who you are. And then that's when the joy starts to come in. Then you can start opening yourself up because your body is starting to heal and starting to restore. And then that's when the joy comes in. Because we want to be in that more of a flow state. It ain't always easy. You and I have built big things and we know what it's like. You're not always going to be in a joyful state. But setting your body up to be in that place where things become more rote, they become easier, allows you to start getting into that joyful place. Yeah, so good. So good. Well, Dr. Kellyanne, thanks so much for coming on today.

1:02:23Thank you. It was a beautiful conversation. I'm so grateful for you and all the great things you've done for helping pioneer and bring things like collagen and bone broth, greater awareness there in natural medicine. So, so grateful for you. And let people know where they can find more about your books and follow you online. Yeah. So you can find me on Instagram, Dr. Kellyanne Official, just building that, and drkellyanne.com. And you'll see me in grocery stores, QVC, online. You can't escape Dr. Kellyanne. So good. Well, everybody, thanks so much for tuning in here to The Dr. Axe Show. Remember, each and every week we're diving deep into the science and principles of how you can heal physically, mentally, spiritually, and take your health and your life to the next level.

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