Top Natural Remedies That Actually Work | Barbara O'Neill

26:42Well, at our health retreat in Australia, Misty Mountain Health Retreat, guests come in for either one week or two weeks. They come in on a Sunday. We give them a beautiful meal. And then in the afternoon, they have a steamed sauna, and we just serve them a thin soup at night. And then Monday, Tuesday are juicing days. And every two hours, we serve a fresh vegetable, light fruit juice. So the first two days are fasting days and they steam sawn at the end of every day because that stimulates their skin to throw off more waste. And we find that it's very effective because the stomach is very happy when it gets a little rest.

27:23And we say to our guests, you couldn't eat in a day what we put in your juices. So what we do is we nutritionally support the body. we nutritionally support the liver to effectively detoxify them. Because when you're not eating solid food, it takes about 1 ,200 calories to digest a meal. So when you're not digesting the meal, then the body's looking around for something to do. So it'll go to the parts of the body with the greatest need. And that's the theory as to why it's being used for centuries to help people heal. It's amazing. So my mom had cancer. When she was 41, she had breast cancer. And then about 18 years later, she was diagnosed with cancer again on her lung.

28:06And that second time, first time we went all conventional, second time we did all natural. And the diet you're describing is very similar to what my mom followed to reverse cancer. She did basically broth, lots of steamed vegetables, juice vegetables, some berries, and wild salmon. I mean, that was her whole diet and was able to reverse cancer that way. But it's, you know, there is this, the Bible, and a lot of world religions talk a lot about fasting, obviously for spiritual breakthrough, but for the health breakthroughs. There's so much scientific literature and historical evidence on the benefits there.

28:41That's why it's been used for centuries to help stimulate healing in the body. And that's why it works. The body doesn't have to digest now. let's do something else. Let's go to areas that need help. Yeah, it can repair, it can regenerate now. I want to mention this. You mentioned statin drugs earlier. We often call the gut the second brain. So most people know that statin drugs cause, your brain is made up of about 25 % cholesterol. It's a lot of fat. So when you're doing these statin drugs, you are demyelinating, you are destroying your entire nervous system. A big part of your nervous system is in your gut.

29:21So that's another thing with these statin drugs are destroying the body in such a massive, and there's not a single drug that doesn't cause a depletion in the body of a vitamin or nutrient. And they don't even put those side effects on the labels. That's true. That's true. You see, drugs never cure disease. And some might say, well, Barbara, can you really say never? You can say never because they only mask symptoms. It's the body and the body alone is the only, the only thing that has the capacity to heal. Now, water treatments work with the body. Herbs work with the body, but it's the body that does the healing, but it will heal when you give it the right conditions.

30:01And unfortunately, the drugs, they don't work with the body. They mask the symptoms. And so the people think, oh, this is helping because I don't have a headache anymore. I don't have a bad rash anymore. But they don't realize they've just pushed it further in the body's going to come out again. That's right. Yeah. I think one thing people don't realize to your point is, is that drugs essentially are forcing your body to do actually something it doesn't want to do. It's forcing it. Vitamins, minerals, herbals. Herbals are changing your environment. Vitamins and minerals are giving your body just the tools it needs to heal itself.

30:34Yeah. I was really blessed to learn this principle. Food doesn't actually heal you. Broccoli, turmeric, none of it heals you. Your body heals itself. Change the environment. And You did such a great job of teaching that. I want to, right before we started, you shared something with me, which I just loved, and I want to get into this. You delivered one of your own babies yourself. Yes. Okay? That's amazing. We did, with my wife, Chelsea, we did two at-home births in a tub. The most amazing spiritual experience of our lives. It is. Talk to me about fertility, birth, home births, and your experience there, and also delivering your own baby at home.

31:12Well, it challenges me what they've done with birthing today. So I read a book called The Midwife of Oswege. She's a Polish woman in her 50s. In Oswege, she delivered 3 ,000 babies in two years, didn't lose a baby. Wow. Now, let's look at that. These women are in the most terrible conditions. They're malnourished, spiritually, emotionally, mentally traumatized. She never lost a baby. So you know what I say? What's happening in our hospitals? What's happening that we've got such a high death rate in our hospitals? It's intervention. So my babies, I had several babies at home, and it was such an incredible experience.

32:01You've experienced it yourself. There's nothing like it. so with my fifth child they they checked me and they said you've got a while to go so I decided to start marching around the room and seven minutes later I had another contraction and I could feel pushing the back of my throat you know to push and I thought what's going on and I felt down and I could feel the head and so I started panting started panting because my baby's just come too fast. I knew that from my home birds. No one was in the room except my husband. And I'm panting and he's tapping me saying, you shouldn't be panting yet. And I couldn't tell him.

32:42And you know what? I was confronted with the fact, I've got to do this myself. Yeah, wow. So what I did is as I panted, the head would go back. As I didn't pant, the head would push. So I just panted, massaged like I'd seen the midwives do it, and the head fell into my hand. Oh my goodness, wow. And I said, the head. And he jotted round and, oh, I'm sitting there with a head. And then a nurse's aide with a mop and bucket came into the room, saw me sitting there with the head. The mop and bucket went flying. She went running. People came from everywhere. It was a tiny little country hospital because I went into labour early, so I went into there, my midwife's in Sydney.

33:26And they came into the room. They looked at me and looked at me with the head and they said, can we check if the cord's around the neck? And I said, yes. They checked, you're fine. And then I got my next contraction and she went to take the baby and I said, I'll take the baby. Yeah. Because the head's the hardest. And that baby, the head just goes, the rest of the body goes. Yeah. And I just pulled that baby up and I thought, praise be to God. Why don't let that women do this? But I think women are fearful. They're so fearful. It's time to know your body, to work with your body, to know that your body can do it.

34:10I think so much of it comes with this thing where we've sort of made the medical system and doctors, they've sort of replaced God in a way in the minds of a lot of people. I think for a lot of people, they have this, you know, the Bible says in the Psalms, you are fearfully and wonderfully made. That's right. And I think a lot of people have sort of lost that idea that science or this idea of science is sort of, again, replaces God. And it constantly is violating God's design. It is. You will love Psalm 146, verse 3. It says, put not your trust in princes, neither in the son of man in whom there is no help.

34:49So who are the princes? They're the authorities in the field, the authorities in government, the authorities in medicine, the authorities in nutrition. What has the Bible said? Put not your trust in princes, neither in the son of man, in whom there's no help. His breath goes forth. He returns unto his earth. In that very day, his thoughts perish. In other words, he's just a man. But verse 5 says, Happy is he that has the God of Jacob as his help, whose hope is in the Lord his God that made heaven, earth, sea, and all that in them is, that's us, and keeps truth forever. It's amazing. Isn't that a beautiful verse?

35:24It's beautiful. So it's actually a challenge to us people. Stop putting so much faith and trust in the doctor. It doesn't mean you don't go. It doesn't mean you don't go anywhere near them. You might go and you might get their advice, but you know what you say? Thank you so much for your opinion. Yeah. Because actually that's what it is. You're gracious. The Bible says in Colossians 4 verse 6, let your speech be always with grace. seasoned with salt, that you may know how you ought to answer every man. You say, thank you so much for your advice. I'll seriously consider this. And you leave. And you do consider it because 2 Timothy 1 verse 7, the Bible says that God has not given us the spirit of fear, but of power.

36:10What's power? Knowledge. But of power, love, and a sound mind. And a sound mind weighs up the pros and cons. But if a person's been told, you've got cancer, you've got to do this immediately, that's shocking news. That's right. Please have the courage to say, thank you so much for your opinion. I'll get back to you and you leave. You know, we've got into, and I've seen this so often, it sort of shocks me. You know, there are statistics around once five o 'clock rolls around, the amount of C-sections that happen go up dramatically. The amount of C-sections now that are being scheduled months out is crazy.

36:46I've had doctors not happen at once. I've heard this 10 times where women have told me, well, the doctor told me that I have a small body and that my hips are too small. So I have to have a C-section before they even try. I mean, that's. Look how tiny I am. I gave birth to a 10 pound baby. Yeah. Wow. Yeah. See, and that's where squatting is great for women. It just. Exactly. Let's use gravity. Let's use gravity. Not fighting against gravity. And I'll tell you something. I've been told far too many times. and this was told me just a few days ago. Had a scan. The doctor said there's water around half the baby's heart.

37:22Had another scan a month later. Now there's water around both the hearts. Have to go in immediately and give birth to the baby and the woman's 35 weeks. Oh, have to do a C-section. Then they scan the heart after the birth. They don't see very much at all. Yeah. So a lady, Imam, she said, Barbara, I've just had a scan. I'm 35 weeks. They say that my baby's too small. The placenta's breaking down. I said, I believe it. Now, when I say that, that challenges many people. I said, you know what a scan is? It's just sound waves coming back. I said, it could be wrong. If I were you, I would not go back.

38:06I would enjoy your last few weeks of labor. You feel good? Yeah, baby's moving. Yeah. She went into labor at about 39 weeks, gave birth naturally. Baby was perfect. Placenta was perfect. Yeah. So I'm almost at the stage where I say to women, I can't tell you what to do, but if I was you, I would not have scans. Yeah. Because what it does, it puts fear into the woman. That's right. And then a scan later, oh, actually, we can't see it this time. Yeah. that mother needs peace, calm, and happiness through her pregnancy. Yeah, it's so important. Well, one of the things that I tell the patients I work with that are dealing with infertility, I tell the woman, I said, here's the state we need to get you into.

38:55Because I think a lot of infertility can be driven through unhealthy emotions, not feeling safe and secure. And I tell them, I said, this is how I want you to feel. I want you to think about your favorite couch. You're bundled up with a blanket. You've got your favorite, you know, beverage. Maybe it's a cup of hot cocoa or a coffee. You've got your family there, Christmas tree fire, and you feel safe, secure, warm. And like, that's the emotional state we need to get you into. But what you're saying is like the medical system today, rather than doing that, it's stripping away hope. It's putting in fear.

39:27We know that that causes the body to sort of lock and tighten up. And I see that, I think, a lot of times sort of interfering with that whole birthing process as well. The woman goes home. She's just been told they think they see something in the baby's kidney. She goes home. She's crying all the way home. They say, we'll scan again in a month. What's that next month like for her? So if they contact me, you know what I say? I don't believe them. That's right. And I said, and even if there's something there, what are they going to do? Yeah, there's no interventions that they have that work. No, no.

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42:27And she's just absolutely amazing, had the best experience. And, um, and, and my, so my wife doesn't, she never wants to bother anybody. So like we almost had to deliver the baby because I'm looking at her contraction. I'm like, are you keeping track of time anymore? She's like, well, no, I lost track. And then 30 minutes later, the baby was here. So anyways, but having a great midwife's amazing. Um, we talked about women's hormones. I want to talk about men's hormones as well. We are seeing now more than ever before, male testosterone just plummeting. I want to say over the last 50 years, male testosterone has dropped by 33%.

43:00In some areas of the country, if you're comparing, it's over 50%. And so we're seeing men now contributing to a lot of the infertility issues. That's true. What do you think the root cause of that is? And what are some things men can start to do? I think it's the same root clause as with women. Mother hormones being displaced. And I think it's really nice to picture it like this. Mother hormone, progesterone, she's very protective of her son, testosterone. So when mother hormone is where she should be, she plays a protective role on testosterone, keeping it in the balance that it should be. And so all those environmental poisons we talked about, But if a man, if his mother was on the pill before she gave birth to him, there's a factor coming through there.

43:50Another factor, too, not often talked about is laptops on the lap. So I say protect the family jewels. Men and women, don't put your laptop on your lap. Or phones in your pocket. Oh, yes, yes, yes. And it's not the odd day it happens. It's day after day after day after day. So these are all contributing factors, but it's actually the same as with women. We've got to reinstate mother hormone, and that's where the wild yam cream, it does that. So whether man or woman, they can apply that yam cream. But we had a man come with prostate cancer. Yeah. He was having a three-monthly injection to try and get his testosterone levels right.

44:36He developed breasts. He was getting hot flushes. Wow. So at our retreat, he learned about the yam cream, and he made the decision not to go and have that three-monthly injection anymore. He made the decision to start applying that yam cream twice a day. Men don't have a break like women because they're not cyclic. Women apply it twice a day, three weeks a month. Men apply it every day, twice a day. He stopped his nightly red wine, stopped his coffee, started to go more plant-based, exercise, so all of the basic laws of health. We got an email 10 months later. Breasts have gone down. Hot flashes have stopped.

45:18Testosterone levels are the best they've been for years. That's so great. I love hearing that. You know, I actually had not heard that before. In my training and looking at Chinese medicine and some other things, what we would tend to do is go more directly at testosterone. And so I would do Panex ginseng, fenugreek, more weightlifting. I mean, some of those things. But I liked your point. And this is something I really appreciate about you is we want to always go to the root of all roots. You know, I see cortisol being another hormone. That's the root of all roots. It's like, to your point, cortisol goes up.

45:51Insulin goes up. Now estrogen can't be detoxified by the liver when that happens. So then T4 can't be converted to T3. So this whole hormonal pathway, but that's great wisdom. And that's something I'm going to start using more frequently in testing with patients is doing more of the progesterone increasing in men. Because I've done it in women a lot, but not as frequently with men. Oh, yeah. In fact, great for prostate, great for low sperm count, but also penile dysfunction. And I don't know how else to say this, but one man said to me, this cream just puts lead in my pencil. he said i'm not performing like i was when i was 20 but i'm better than i was so yeah in all of those areas the the yam cream can yes definitely help help men and cheryl selman in her book hormone heresy she explains it like this she said men are like the sun they rise every morning conquer the day go down every night but women are like the moon sometimes they're full sometimes they're half, sometimes they're a slither.

46:53So women are more cyclic. So they have one week a month off. It isn't amazing how, I mean, what you just said there, I think God teaches us with nature, you know, like, I mean, literally the sun is like a male cycle. The moon is a woman's cycle every 28, 30 day. I mean, that same exact same cycle. It's amazing. You know, I've always appreciated. One of the things that I've taught, and I think I've heard you talk about this as well, is this, you can often know how to heal an organ by, or what foods to eat for the organ based on the appearance of the organ, right? Like a walnut looks like a hemisphere of the brain.

47:31Tomatoes have four chambers and they're red. So does your heart, you know, beets look like blood. And so, I think it's - And celery, like the ema. Your bones, right? Exactly. It's amazing for, you know, keeping you from losing minerals. So I, I, if there's one thing that I really would love people to walk away with is that I want them to understand that God is for you, not against you. You're fearfully and wonderfully made. And that there are all of these things in nature that are so powerful. I did want to ask you about hormone replacement therapy and your views on that. My views on that are I'm not in agreeance with it because I'm not in agreeance with using synthetic hormones.

48:10So if a woman is on hormone replacement therapy. And I have to tell you, I have had several women testify that six years after being on hormone replacement therapy, they developed breast cancer. I've seen it. So yes, you've seen it yourself. So I'm not in agreeance with it because it further disrupts the hormones. So if a woman's on hormone replacement therapy, my suggestion is, well, what I would do, I would stop. But the day I stop, I would start applying the yam cream. So we have a yam cream that we sell here in the UK. My daughters make it in Tasmania. It's called Tre Loon. So it's about three, Tre meaning three, Loon, the lunar cycle.

48:52And I remember when my husband saw that, he said, oh, this is a terrible name. It needs to be Ruth's yam cream or Mary's yam cream. Barbara's yam cream, of course. My daughters say, no, Tre Loon, and referring to the lunar cycle. So men or women do very well with it. One lady said, it didn't work. I said, how long to try it for? She said, two months. I said, well, this is what's happening after two months. This is estrogen, which should be down there. Here's progesterone that should be up there. And after two months, we're about here. What we want, we want the mother hormone back. How long will it take?

49:35Well, we've got a saying in Australian, how long is a piece of string? It could be an inch long or it could be mile long. So it depends on, I've seen three generations of women with it out. Now, it's not going to take three generations to get back. In fact, it's not going to take 20 years to get back, but it might take a year. Yeah. And this is where time, and the Bible has a beautiful section in Hebrews on time. It's Hebrews 10, 35. It says, Cast not away, therefore, thy confidence in the witch's great recompense of reward, for ye have need of patience, in that after you have done the will of God, you might receive the promise.

50:17For yet a little while, and he that shall come, or will come, he shall come, but the just shall live by faith. But if any man draw back, my soul shall have no pleasure in him. But we are not of them that draw back under perdition, but of them that believe in the saving of the soul. Now, I add something to that. but to them that believing in the saving or the healing of the body. So don't cast your confidence away. Have confidence in God, confidence in this body that he gave us, but ye have need of patience. You know, a lot of these sort of ancient sages would always say that the partner of wisdom, the greatest partner is patience.

50:57I mean, so it's part of being wise. It's part of doing the right thing. We don't get sick overnight and we don't heal overnight. And that's another problem with medicine today, quick fixes. That's right. And that's what we're trained to be. And social media has made it worse. Everything else, we want everything. We order food. I mean, everything we want to see instantly. But it's typically not the best way. You know, I was reading Proverbs here this last week. And one really struck me. It basically said this. Wealth that comes quickly will not last. Wealth that comes built over time will last.

51:31And I think that's so true. One of the things I have studied and understood in what you're sharing with hormone replacement therapy, and this is the ancient Asian view, but is that when you start taking synthetic hormones from the outside in, your body starts turning off its own tap. Yes. So it stops producing progesterone, stops producing estrogen itself. Yes. And then in Chinese medicine, they would call that a chi deficiency in a certain organ. So now you have lack of blood flow, lack of movement in that area because now your body, think about your body is like, it's got a spring inside of it.

52:05You're turning your own natural spring off versus what you teach is, no, listen, we're gonna open that spring up so water is just flooding out. And your points with doing the yam cream and some of these other therapies, I think is we wanna work with the body, not against the body. I see men now getting on testosterone therapy in their 20s and 30s. And then, you know, some of them saying, well, I want to have a family one day. And I'm sitting there thinking, you're increasing your rate of infertility dramatically. Dramatically. Yeah. And so I love what you're teaching. I think so often people are running to hormone replacement therapy rather than doing all the right things.

52:47It's like if you follow the right diet and do these ancient remedies you've talked about, I found that 99 % of the time, people heal, people get well. They do. And there's always a consequence. That's right. That's Newton's third law of motion. Do every action. There's an equal and an opposite reaction. And Proverbs 26 too, it says, the curse causeless shall not come. Yeah. So there's always a cause. And the cause, see, I've got a, I think there, a dent in my cheek. You know what that dent's from? I crashed on my bicycle on the bridge. Real easy. Cause of dent, crash. Yeah. But it's not usually that easy.

53:24Yeah. It can be a little bit of this and a little bit of that. And that happened and this happened and this happened. And this has been happening for a while. And it's like the straw that breaks the camel's back. A piece of straw cannot break a camel's back. But on top of everything else, it can tip the scales. That's right. And that's what often you see. And because the person's suddenly gone down, they want to suddenly get better. But they don't realize that it's actually all of those things that have been happening for many years that have contributed to this. Yeah. Yeah, there are a lot of these mistakes we can make.

53:57I mean, you've talked about plastic bottles, bisphenol A, the glyphosate, a lot of these things that add up. What do you think are maybe three or so of the biggest mistakes people are making that they're just totally unaware of that's really harming their health? I think a really big mistake is thinking that coffee and tea are hydrating them. So every morning when we go to the hotel to have breakfast, they say, will you have tea or coffee? No. they look at you as if you're strange and they put our cup upside down because I would say we are probably the only ones there not having tea or coffee well what will you have to drink well we've already drank a lot of water so that misconception that tea and coffee are hydrating they're actually dehydrating you if you are dehydrated and you drink a cup of coffee you'll be more dehydrated after that because coffee has caffeine, which is a dehydrator.

54:54You put sugar in that, another dehydrator. You drink tea, not as much caffeine, but it's got tannin, another dehydrator. Wow. So that's a real misconception. Another misconception is exercises for children. we should never stop never stop stagnant pools breed disease and stagnant bodies that's a big disease producer is the body's just not moving we need to move every day muscle knows no age whether you're nine or 90 you can have strong muscles so that's another misconception and the other misconception is it doesn't matter if you don't go to bed till midnight

55:42and when you understand what happens in your brain at night you're as a british neurologist named dr matthew walker he wrote a book while we sleep and at the end of it he said i did not like what i found because i was hoping the research would show six hours is all right no no eight must be eight. That's right. And also catching at least two hours before midnight. Yeah. Yeah. It's so powerful. And I remember hearing at a lecture when I was younger, somebody say, it was a practitioner, every hour before midnight is worth almost double. And at first I thought, is that right? And then through trial and error and realizing, I'm like, that's absolutely true.

56:27I'm really blessed. I have a one and a half year old and a five-year-old. And my five-year-old, my wife puts the one-a-half-year-old to bed. I put the five-year-old to bed. But I'm going to bed at like 8.30 now, which I feel so refreshed every single morning going to bed just after eight. But yeah, I absolutely agree. I mean, I think there was a study that came out recently that said, on average, women are getting a little less, like 40 minutes less of sleep a night compared to 50, 60 years ago. In men, it's like 30 minutes less. But what people don't realize is, I mean, think 40 minutes of less sleep.

57:07And when you realize the difference between before midnight and after midnight, if they're losing before midnight, that you double it. Yeah, that's exactly right. It's exactly right. So it's, yeah, it's such an important part of us regenerating when we sleep. It is. It is. And if we don't get regenerated every night, we're going to age very quickly. That's right. It's so right. As I mentioned earlier, you talk a lot about food as medicine. You talk a lot about herbs as medicine. Let's start with food here. What are some of your favorite foods that people can start eating that act as a form of medicine for the body?

57:48Well, I know people often say to me, what are we going to feed you? I said, just feed me greens and beans. I love greens and beans. And a lot of people get put off the beans because they say they give the wind. Well, are they soaked? Are they very well rinsed? Are they prepared properly? And if they still give wind, we've got to start real slow and slowly build the microorganisms up in our gut for that particular legume. Can I tell you, there is a video online recently of, I want to say it was an Italian family. and they said for every meal, this is a little, I thought a little, it was very extreme.

58:27But I want to say all three of them were over 100 years old and they all ate three bean soup for every meal. So it was, so you can't live to be over, you know, that was like their main staple. And you see the beans are actually quite low in carbohydrates compared to grain. Very high fiber. They're high fiber, they're great proteins. And the greens, the greens, the greens, the greens are incredibly high in minerals. Now bones are made of minerals. We need minerals. Now when you cook them, you don't lose the minerals. Because the minerals, you know, heat doesn't destroy them. It doesn't affect metal like that, right?

59:10No. That's right. You know, there are now, there's kind of this movement that's happened. I literally just had this question. So I just, you know, got done speaking here. And right afterwards, somebody came up to me. They said, hey, what do you think about lectins? What do you think about, you know, eating vegetables? Because I've heard now, it's so crazy. Can I just say, like, somebody was like, I heard that you shouldn't eat vegetables because they're not healthy. And I'm like, there's like thousands of years of like Chinese medicine. I read in the Bible saying that's not true. It's a test of time.

59:42I've got a funny story about this. It was probably about two years ago. Oh, no, it was 2022. When I came back into Australia, I was put into quarantine for two weeks. And someone gave me a book just before I got on the plane, The Plant Paradox by Dr. Stephen Gundry. And I do want to say, I know Stephen, he's a really nice guy. I disagree with him on quite a bit. And you know what was interesting? I started to read it and he's saying the tongue took 10 million years to develop. And I just kept closing the book thinking, ah, I don't want to be bothered with this. But you know what? I'm in a room for two weeks.

1:00:17Yeah. Can't get out. So I kept going back to the book. I'm so glad I read it because I wanted to know, well, what are lectins? And why did God put them in food? Protection for the book. Now, you'll find lectins high in unripe fruit. And, of course, the birds don't eat the unripe fruit. They're prebiotics, though. They only eat the ripe fruit. So when you get the ripe pear or the ripe fig, there's no lectins. So I thought, well, that makes sense. There's a bitterness before they ripen and that stops the birds. That makes sense. and then, well, it's in legumes. But if you soak them and you rinse them several times and cook them well, especially in a pressure cooker, it disarms the lectins.

1:01:09That's right. What about grain? Yes, there's lectins in grains, but if they're made into the sourdough method, the sourdough or the culturing process disarms the lectins. So I thought, well, all we have to do is cook them properly and prepare them properly. I mean, this is such a problem today because I've seen so many people run with these ideas of, you know, grains are bad. You know, grains are, it's interesting, like in writing this, the Biblio diet on the biblical diet, the most referenced foods in the Bible are, I mean, sourdough bread is very, very high up there. Oh, yes. Red meat is actually very high as part of Solomon's provisions.

1:01:52Vegetables, pomegranates are the most referenced fruit along with figs and grapes. And so, I mean, these are all things that are salt, honey are referenced, olive oil, you know, referenced so many times. Olive oil, huge. A man, he was a Christian and was at church one day and he said, you're wrong on the oils. We shouldn't be eating it. I said, you need to do a Bible study on olive oil. That's right. In fact, I would almost say one thing almost everybody can agree on, both vegan and carnivore and whatever, almost everybody agrees that olive oil is the best oil. Oh, yeah. Yeah, there's no doubt about that.

1:02:30It's very important. Something else very interesting about lectins, if you've got good gut flora, disarms the lectins. Yeah. So I thought, well, we don't need to throw vegetables out. We just need to ensure good gut flora and to prepare our food properly. Like Sally Fallon in her book, Nourishing Traditions, she explores all the traditional ways, the long, slow cooking on the wood stove, the rinsing well, the sourdough culturing of the grains. If you prepare your food properly, no problem with lectins. Yeah, I would say, I mean, the foods that are the most different today compared to if we're talking about just historically, generally the time of Jesus or even 200 years ago, bread and dairy are the most radically different today.

1:03:17I mean, bread today is like white goop that turns into sugar versus then even the way they would harvest it when it ripe. They would soak it and let it sit in the sun. They would then mill it themselves. And it was an ancient grain like an einkorn. And then they would ferment it. There was this great study on celiac disease. So these are people that are severely intolerant to gluten. But if they did a fermentation sourdough process in the study of the 17 people, they did another one with about the same amount of people, 0 % of them had any reaction whatever to gluten. Because your point, it breaks down the lexan and the phytic acid.

1:03:53That's what it does. It actually totally breaks it down. Yeah. So you talked about beans and greens. That's another one. Again, it's got a bad rep. I mean, steamed spinach and kale, bok choy, broccoli, and these are amazing, amazing healing foods. I have someone I know who had MS, and she completely reversed MS by eating only meat, high fat, and then greens. I mean, her biggest thing was just steamed green vegetables. I'm curious, what are some of the most miraculous healings you've seen, and what were some of the foods or things people did in order to see these miraculous healings in their body?

1:04:29Where do I start? Wherever you'd like, wherever you'd like. Well, I think one of the most remarkable stories, because people come to our retreat, then they go home, and we don't often hear back. But this lady, Elizabeth Cott, she had three tumors in her abdominal area. They wanted to start chemo straight away. She didn't like the look of the side effects. She came to our retreat. And as I'm consulting with her, I discovered she's a high sugar eater. You see, cancer cells consume 15 times the glucose of any other cell. She never drank. She never smoked. She was a Christian. So people would say, well, how come she got cancer?

1:05:10But she ate a lot of sugar. She said, we're Polish. We love our desserts. In fact, in one cake about this big, she put 16 cups of white sugar. Oh, my goodness. And her house was spotless, but she used chemical cleaners, chemical, chemical cleaners on everything. So she was also being poisoned by the chemicals. So anyway, we implemented the program. She went on no fruit at all for six weeks. And what that does is that it's designed to give a sledgehammer effect to cancer cells because they consume so much glucose. We also hyperbaric chamber. She also was taking herbs to help knock off the cancer.

1:05:55went back to the doctor. I think it was six months since she'd first been, and he said, oh, just keep doing what you're doing because all her cancer levels had come down, all the inflammatory markers had come down, went back. So it was a year later, the next visit, first tumour's gone. Another year later, another tumour gone. She said to me, I'm in my 70s now. I feel better now than when I felt in my 40s. Yeah. Just an incredible story and also another story of a guy who was type 1 diabetic, 62. He was on medication for all heart, sugars, 90 units of insulin a day. The doctors had basically said, we can do no more for you.

1:06:37He came to our retreat. He said, I've spent a million dollars on my health in the last 10 years. Best specialists in the land. And they've just sent him home to say, we can do no more for you. Came to our retreat. He said, anything you say, I will do. And he did. Wow. So implemented exercise, got the high glycemic foods right down, low carbohydrate, high fiber, great proteins, good fats. Two weeks and he was from 90 units of insulin a day down to 10 units of insulin. Wow. That's amazing. He, mommy, three months later, he said, I'm off all my medication. Wow. He said, now type 1 diabetes. And we're told that can never be.

1:07:23Yeah. So he was incredible because he did it. Yeah. And of course, that's the key. He did it. Yeah. You know, the Bible says, be ye doers of the word, not hearers only. That's so good. That's so good. I love that so much. We've talked about food as medicine. Again, greens, beans, those are some things you've talked about that people can really thrive on. It's not like you talked about broth and some other things in your retreat. I want to ask you about plant-based medicine and herbals. This is something that I didn't learn about at all in school, but through self-study of years and years and years, I have become just such a big fan of herbal medicine.

1:08:03What are some of your favorite herbs that you recommend most commonly for various imbalances and conditions? Well, you mentioned the gut. Yeah. And certainly the sliprium, we advocate that for any diarrhea. So irritable bowel, Crohn's disease, colitis, ulcerative colitis, all of that, that helps an enormous amount. But I also look at boosting hydrochloric acid. In fact, in my book, Self-Healed by Design, I've got a chapter, it's called Hydrochloric Acid, The Stomach's Secret. Because hydrochloric acid is so important, it not only plays an important part in breaking our protein down. So it's one thing to eat proteins, another thing to break it down.

1:08:48So low hydrochloric acid can be responsible for not breaking down the protein properly. Plus it's also antibacterial, antifungal, antimicrobial. So I look at boosting that and we've got a great herbal mix. It's got gentian and ginger and dandelion and golden seal, just a little golden seal. Golden seal is one of my favorite herbs. It's called king of tonics to all mucous membranes. I love that. So you can sniff it for sinus. You can rinse your mouth with it. It'll help a stomach ulcer. It'll help to heal irritable bowel. So we put all those bitter herbs in and make a tea out of it. We gently simmer it.

1:09:34And all the guests that come to Misty Mountain, they get a little cup of that hot just before each meal because I find everyone can do with a boost to their hydrochloric acid. Well, that's so good. You know, I had a patient come in recently. I was working with him and he came in and his vitamin D levels were incredibly low on his blood work. And he was supplementing with vitamin D, lots of it, and he still wasn't getting it. And part of the problem was, is that he wasn't absorbing it because of bile, right? His liver, his gallbladder weren't producing enough bile. And that's another thing people don't know about these bitters is the importance of helping liver and gallbladder.

1:10:15free diet that it's the worst oh the worst in the world the poor old the poor old liver and gallbladder they weren't doing anything yeah because there's no fat to make any bile well i know in the western world all the emphasis like most everybody is sweet and salty right yeah but it's bitter and sour that have most of these medicinal benefits they do and there's the null saying bitter to the mouth sweet to the stomach sweet to the liver sweet to the mouth bitter to the stomach, bitter to the liver. So all your liver herbs are bitter herbs. So that digestive tea mix, we affectionately call it dig tea.

1:10:51And we make up a whole batch of it and heat it up. We've seen remarkable results. I myself suffered from anemia for many, many years. And I realized my first husband was a drug addict and an alcoholic. So life was a little stressful. and even when I was a single mother for four years, still I suffered from anemia and this is a huge journey. They said, Barbara, you must be bleeding somewhere. You have to have an esophagoscopy, a colonoscopy. And I only went and had all these because I was under so much pressure. You were a single mother with six children. But, you know, there was nothing wrong there.

1:11:34And then I just had to work it out for myself. So I went to my anatomy and physiology books and I studied iron. And iron is bound up in food and it needs acid to free it. And your ferritin levels, which your iron is stored with protein, but if your hydrochloric acid levels are down, you don't have enough protein. And I thought, my problem is low hydrochloric acid. So I put that tea together to boost my hydrochloric acid levels. And after six months, I had another blood test. My hemoglobin was 15. My ferritin levels were way, way up. And yet my ferritin levels at one point were three. My hemoglobin levels at one point were five.

1:12:23So that's how low I used to get. All I did was boost my hydrochloric acid. In fact, in my book, Self-Heal by Design, I've got a section on anemia and I've got my story in the back of there because it's a remarkable story. It was just hydrochloric acid. Yeah, that's incredible. That's incredible. You know, one of the other conditions or groups of conditions that are just growing really rapidly today are neurological issues. Alzheimer's is a big one. Have you seen any good results with Alzheimer's disease in terms of diet supplements treatments that you recommend do you know we have and much depends on why yeah so in england you've got the history of margaret thatcher you've got also in the u.s ronald reagan who boasted that they only needed five hours sleep a night and yet they spent the last 20 years with severe alzheimer's dementia and now the research especially dr matthew walker in his book why we sleep, he shows that it's in the early hours of the night, the glymphatic system that's made up of glial cells cleans up any little beginnings of amyloid plaques.

1:13:34And of course, what they have found in people with dementia doing postmortems on them, they've all got these amyloid plaques, these calcified deposits. So I think if Margaret Thatcher and Ronald Reagan had known that, they would have gone to bed early. Yeah, exactly. It's in the early hours of the night, this glymphatic system keeps a check on all of it. I'm not saying all Alzheimer's is due to lack of sleep, but it's a huge factor. We had one lady, she came to our retreat with Alzheimer's. If someone comes with Alzheimer's, they have to come with a carer because we're not a hospital. And she was 69.

1:14:11And when I looked at her, she just looked through me, beyond me. and I discovered she didn't drink water and her bowels hadn't opened for six days. So we gave her herbs to get the bowels moving, got her hydrated. Within 48 hours, there was no sign of Alzheimer's or dementia. That was an easy fix. It's not always an easy fix. So it's different. Yeah. You know, just different strokes for different folks is the saying. Well, yeah, I love your share this because one of the things it reminds me of is when we look at our bodies, we have this body clock, right? And we're connected to the earth with this, with these circadian rhythms.

1:14:50And there are different times, according to these ancient forms of medicine, where different organs are the most active. And that 11 a.m. time period to three, that's like liver, gallbladder. You have that three to seven, that's more the colon, the lungs, the entire immune system. But there are times where the brain needs to regenerate and heal the most. And those hours you're talking about with lack of sleep, your body cannot regenerate and heal if you're not getting rest. That is right. So it's not only the cleaning system, but melatonin. And melatonin is very interesting because melatonin is released by our gut flora.

1:15:28So we're getting back to the gut again. So the melatonin is released between, say here's summertime, 10 PM and 3 AM. In the wintertime, between 9 PM and 2 AM. Melatonin is called the fix and rejuvenate nighttime hormone. So it's melatonin that's responsible for the increase in healing regeneration in those early hours before midnight and just after midnight. Now, what do you think the biggest reasons are that, I mean, cortisol and melatonin as hormones are incredibly imbalanced and they're causing all these other hormonal issues and healing issues? What are the root of those issues being out of balance and how can people bring those back into balance?

1:16:06Do you know this Noel saying of people burning the candle at both ends? Yeah, yeah, yeah. And really, that's what it is. Instead of having that nightly rest, people are pushing themselves, pushing themselves. I love God's perfect formula in that eight hours to work, eight hours to play, eight hours to sleep. Yeah. And that's what I aim to. Right now, we're playing. To me, this is fun. This is fun. This is fun. So it's getting back to proper sleep. But also, you've got to have your lights out. You've got to have all technology out of your bedroom. You've got to have an open window. You've got to be sleeping in natural fiber, none of this polyester, nylon.

1:16:49You know, I recently, not recently, a few years ago, I switched almost on occasion certain dress clothes I don't. But all my clothes now are wool, almost everything. I have a little bit of organic cotton, but almost everything now is wool that I wear because of that. The Bible talks about this too, right? Not combining to, yeah. When I was in Scotland last year, I had a security guard around me the whole time for this big event. His name's Alex and he's ex-Marine. He said, you know, all the Marines now, their underwear, their boxer shorts, their under T-shirts, all 100 % Merino. Yeah. It's really fine.

1:17:24You see, in the sheep, the wool at the neck is very, very fine and it's not prickly. Yeah. So that's what they make the underwear out of. Whereas the back, we make the big thick woolly coats out of that. Okay. The Aran jumpers out of that. I don't want to share too much, but I'm actually wearing the, you know, merino underwear right now. So it's the best, absolutely the best. Oh, it is. And I say to people, I'm only little and I get cold quickly. So I borrow from the sheep and I love this. This is cashmere. That's. Oh, it's wonderful. That's particularly soft. So when you wear natural fiber, especially the wool, and the reason why the Marines like it is it dries so quickly.

1:18:07Yes. And they can wear it for five days when they're out on patrol. And it doesn't smell. No, because it's breathing and it dries quickly and they don't chill if they get wet. Why do you think you've become such an international phenomenon to the point to where you're speaking at certain events, You have marine bodyguards, people there protecting you. Why do you think your message has resonated with so many people? I think because it's simple and I think because it's reachable. And probably my most famous is put a crystal of Celtic salt or Baja salt on your tongue and drink a glass of water. That one's just gone viral.

1:18:45And you know why I think it's gone viral? Because you can do it. You can do it at home. You don't have to pay a doctor. You can, yeah, that's the thing that I so appreciate about everything you put out is, is that I can go into my pantry. I can go to my local farmer. I can, you know, go to my grocery store. I can just, yeah, open up my cabinet and there's medicine there. That's inexpensive that I don't have to pay thousands of dollars of insurance or this, or it doesn't have a side effect. That's right. It's so simple. It's a reachable thing. It's something that everyone can do. I think that's why it's so popular.

1:19:18You know, I think one of the things that's happened today in mainstream medicine, by the way, When you look at the statistics, mainstream medicine today is the lead. People trust it less than they ever have by far in history. Do you know, I hope so. I really hope so. I'm not against doctors. Some of my best friends are doctors, and I'm sure you'll be one of my best friends now. Yeah. That I think most doctors are ethical, but the pharmaceutical company is not. That's right. And you can testify to this more than I can, that a large part of what you learn in medicine today is pharmacology. Well, yeah.

1:19:54Yeah. And, you know, I would also say this is that it's, to your point, a lot of doctors do have good intentions. Yeah. But doctors get zero hours of nutrition training, MDs. That's right. I have a DC training, so we did get some nutrition training. And we had a little pharmacology, but not near as much as a full-on MD. but the problem is zero, zero nutrition. The only thing they learn is how to diagnose common things and prescribe drugs for them or do a surgery. So there's no nutrition, there's no herbs, there's no lifestyle. You know, I, you know, many times I've had patients who have come to me and it used to be where they would, because I practice natural medicine, they would come see me after they've already seen 10 different doctors.

1:20:38Right. And you've probably had the same thing. It's like, they've been to all these doctors. Finally, they're desperate and then they go, they go see you. But so often, um, I would have, I would ask them what their doctor told them to do. And most of the time it was just take a drug. You know, the average doctor visit is seven minutes and that's the visit. You know how much time they look at the file for one minute. So how can a doctor ever know you and treat you correctly when it's like, okay, oh, hypothyroid, maybe thyroid. Okay. Here's a, here's a, oh, it's on the computer. They just click, click, click, click, and the computer will tell them what drug to give.

1:21:12But going back to that Psalm 146, put not your trust in princes, I believe that the doctors should stop putting their trust in the pharmaceutical company. Wow, that's so good. They must stop because they trust that they've done the research. And we've seen it in the paper many times, the whistleblower. They're not doing the testing. They're not. I want to say the five largest lawsuits ever in the United States are for pharmaceutical companies hiding evidence that their drug was killing people. There was a drug called Vioxx. Now, this was probably 15 years ago, but it killed almost, now some people say it's more than this, 100 ,000 people, one drug alone.

1:21:55And so, but, but, you know, again, there's so much money behind this, but I think because of, one thing I do appreciate about social media is that people want to know the truth. And I think COVID coming out of that, more people than ever realized, oh, I've been lied to. So if I've been lied to about COVID, what else have I been lied to about all this time? And so then people sort of wake up and become more aware and then they start searching out, you know, the truth. And a very similar thing happens at our health retreat. At our health retreat, people start doing the juicing, natural remedies, and they're getting responses and say, you know what they think?

1:22:34They're right on the health. Maybe they're right on God. That's right. And that's what we love. Yeah. I love that as well. You know, I had a spinal infection a few years ago from just a minor medical procedure went wrong. And it was a natural procedure using my own cells. And my disc got infected and then my bone and then I had an abscess in my spinal cord. I had a doctor tell me, an infectious disease doctor, he told me this. He said, your best case scenario is you have chronic pain the rest of your life. And he said, in all likelihood, you're going to be permanently disabled or going to have to fuse your spine.

1:23:07This is three years ago. And I remember for just a short time thinking, like 24 hours, my life is over. And then I realized, you know what? The great physician is better than this physician. And I just meditated on Bible verses day and night. Like, you know, one in particular, I want to think it's Psalms, maybe 102. And it was, bless the Lord, O my soul, and forget not all of his benefits. who forgives all of our sins, heals all of our diseases. 103. And I just meditated on that verse day and night and day and night. And you know what? I have zero pain. I'm healed. I'm healthier than I was before.

1:23:40You claim the promises. And now you'll know that all you have to do is put a poultice on it. Yeah. Yeah, I actually did some poultices. And it'll draw that out. I did poultices. I did a lot of hyperbaric chamber. I was blown away at the benefits of— And I didn't know you did that. So you've utilized hyperbaric chamber. Oh, yeah. What are the benefits? Well, it's based on Henry's law that under pressure, more gas goes into a liquid. And of course, the gas is pure oxygen and the liquid is our blood, which is the oxygen carrier. And so being in that hyperbaric chamber, you're getting blasts of oxygen.

1:24:20Yeah. And one thing I've heard you quote before, I want to say was Otto Warburg, right? and he said that the cause of cancer is, it's really twofold. It's excess sugar and not enough oxygen in the body. Cancer cannot live in the presence of oxygen. And so that's what they're finding. The hyperbaric chamber was first developed for divers with bends because, you know, the air we breathe, 79 % is nitrogen and the 21 % is oxygen. So the divers, when they come up too quick, the nitrogen can't be dispersed. It goes into little bubbles in joints and muscles, and that's the bends. That's the pain. So they developed the hyperbaric chamber to put the divers in to blast this oxygen in, which disperses the nitrogen and out it goes.

1:25:03Wow. So that's why it was originally developed for divers with bends. But then they discovered that especially diabetics with slow wound healing, and they're finding it's also helping cancer patients because, and you know the glycolytic cycle in the cell doesn't use oxygen, but you get down to the Krebs cycle in the mitochondria, It uses oxygen. So that cycle will give 18 times more energy than the glycolytic with no oxygen. That's powerful. And you mentioned certain conditions. I mean, it's amazing for cancer. It's amazing for stroke patients or people who have had any sort of brain trauma. I use it with a lot of families where the kids have autism and so, so powerful.

1:25:45So I love that you're utilizing that as well. Barbara, this has been a huge blessing. Let me ask you this. what is your favorite Bible verse when it comes to health and healing? That's very difficult. I know. By the way, your knowledge of Scripture today has been probably the thing I've been most impressed with. And I really appreciate that. Well, I love it. And it's Ecclesiastes chapter three. It says, to everything there is a season and a time for every purpose. under heaven, a time to be born and a time to die, a time to plant, a time to pluck up that which was planted, a time to kill and a time to heal, a time to break down, a time to build up, a time to weep and a time to laugh, a time to mourn and a time to dance, a time to cast away stones, a time to gather stones together, a time to embrace, a time to refrain from embracing, a time to get and a time to lose, a time to keep and a time to cast away, a time to rend, a time to sow, a time to keep silence and a time to speak, a time to love, a time to hate, a time of war and a time of peace.

1:26:58There is a season and a time for every purpose under heaven. I love that verse because you can apply it so much to the healing of the human body. And there is a season and a time for every purpose. I say to people, there's a time for you to exercise. there's a time for you to sleep so timing and you mentioned earlier circadian rhythm you know what's the best circadian rhythm setter? Sunshine and that's what I do to get over jet lag so yes it was very hard for me to choose a verse to give you and I'm sorry I gave you more than one verse it was a blessing and if anybody wants to know what Barbara does in her spare time it's not scroll social media it's memorize scripture which is way more healing way more healthy.

1:27:46Well, Barbara, this was such an honor today. I am so grateful for the incredible work you've done in helping teach people how to use food as medicine, herbs as medicine, the Bible as medicine, nature as medicine. And just so grateful for you taking a lot of these complex matters and making them simple, free in a lot of cases for so many people. So thanks so much for coming on the show today. It was a real blessing for me. It's been my pleasure. Thank you so much. Well, everybody, hey, thanks so much for watching the Dr. Josh Shack Show. Remember, each and every week we're diving deep into the science and principles behind how you can heal physically, mentally, and spiritually.

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