How the World’s Best Stay at the Top and How You Can Too with Molly Fletcher

18 Mar 2025 · 59 min

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Podcast Episode Notes: The Ed Mylett Show - How the World’s Best Stay at the Top with Molly Fletcher

Episode Overview

  • Host: Ed Mylett
  • Guest: Molly Fletcher
  • Title: How the World’s Best Stay at the Top and How You Can Too
  • Focus: The conversation centers on understanding sustained success from the perspective of peak performers in various industries, particularly in sports.

Key Concepts & Discussions

Introduction to Molly Fletcher

  • Molly Fletcher is a renowned sports agent, referred to as the "female Jerry Maguire."
  • Negotiated over $500 million in contracts for top athletes.
  • Now a sought-after speaker and author of *Dynamic Drive*.

Sustained Success

  • The rarest form of success is not just achieving it but maintaining it.
  • Discussion on how top performers focus on the process rather than outcomes.
  • Mindset Shift: Instead of being outcome-driven, they prioritize daily improvement.
  • Key Traits of Successful Individuals:
  • Curiosity
  • Adaptability
  • Resilience
  • Discipline

Energy Management

  • Protecting one’s energy is essential to avoid burnout and complacency.
  • Energy vs. Time: Athletes operate on energy levels rather than strict schedules, leading to better performance.
  • Importance of identifying activities that energize and drain individuals.

Alignment in Life

  • Aligning professional and personal aspirations is crucial for fulfillment.
  • Suggested exercise:
  • Create a list of your key life roles and rate how well you are performing in each.
  • Identify gaps and adjust your focus accordingly.

Reinvention and Transition

  • Personal story of Molly's transition from sports agent to speaker and author.
  • Notable life moments can catalyze significant changes—Molly’s daughter’s accident prompted her to evaluate her career.

Confidence and Taking Action

  • Confidence is built through action and engagement in one’s pursuits.
  • Encouragement to take risks and pursue endeavors that align with personal values and goals.
  • The impact of feedback and self-reflection on personal growth.

Key Takeaways

  • Process Over Outcome: Top performers focus on incremental improvement rather than fixating on winning.
  • Energy Management: Schedule high-energy activities to maintain performance.
  • Alignment is Key: Align personal values with professional goals for greater fulfillment.
  • Reinvention: Life changes can prompt necessary career transitions.
  • Action Equals Confidence: Taking action is foundational to building confidence and achieving success.

Conclusion

  • Molly Fletcher’s insights emphasize the importance of understanding what drives sustained success and how individuals can apply these principles to their own lives. The conversation provides actionable advice for anyone seeking to improve their performance and maintain fulfillment in their endeavors.

Additional Resources

  • Book: *Dynamic Drive* by Molly Fletcher
  • Follow Ed Mylett:
  • [Instagram](https://www.instagram.com/edmylett/)
  • [Facebook](https://www.facebook.com/edmylett/)
  • [LinkedIn](https://www.linkedin.com/in/edmylett/)
  • [Twitter](https://twitter.com/edmylett)
  • [Website](https://www.edmylett.com)

Call to Action

  • For listeners pursuing more success, fulfillment, and impact in their lives, this episode serves as a motivational guide filled with practical strategies to harness one's potential.

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2:18This is The Edmired Show. Welcome back to the show, everybody. Okay, so the lady that is sitting here today, I've wanted to have on the show for quite a while, but I want her to hear why I wanted her to have on the show. So as you guys all know, I speak, I'm lucky to speak around the world, you know, 80, 100 nights a year. And several times when I've gone to different events, when she is also at the event, I'll ask the organizers, hey, who else has spoken at the event? And they'll tell me the people that spoken, and they'll list the six or eight or 10 or 20 speakers that are there. And then I'll say, well, who stood out?

2:52Who did the best? And inevitably, if we're at the same event, I'll hear Molly Fletcher. They loved her, but I didn't ever get a chance to see her speak because we're usually not there at the same time. And so, and then her name came up about this book that she's got out. And I'm like, I know that name because I hear about her speaking. Then I researched her. Then I watched her speak and I'm like, oh, I get it now. She's incredible. So my The guest today has a new book out called Dynamic Drive. She's got a great podcast, too. But we're really here to talk about her and the book. And I know this hour is going to rock with all of you.

3:23So, Molly Fletcher, welcome. Hey, it's awesome to be with you. It really is. I'm pumped to be here. Thanks for coming all the way to Florida. Hey, man, I love it. It's a little Jacksonville. This is, your house is beautiful. This whole setup is ridiculous. It's awesome. Thank you. So, they call you the female Jerry Maguire. Why? Tell us about your background a little bit. I usually don't do that. I usually get right into the stuff. But in your case, the background is so unique, especially for a woman in that space. It's not as common. It's becoming more common, but it wasn't especially when you were grinding away.

3:50So tell us about your career, your previous one. Yeah, for sure. Well, I mean, it was, it was, you know, essentially I was a student athlete in college and then I moved to Atlanta. I wanted to get in the business of sports, but I didn't really know what that manner looked like. So sort of through some odds and then jobs, I got an opportunity to work at a marketing agency and an athlete representation agency with a couple coaches and a couple baseball players. And my role at the time was to drive Lenny Wilkins around, who was the head coach of the Dream Team, to all of his appearances during the Olympics.

4:21And then at the end of the Olympics, I was sitting on the floor in my office in the agency, and literally we had like six clients. And I remember thinking, like, how are we going to grow? I mean, like, I can keep running around and getting endorsement and appearance deals for these half a dozen guys, but like, how are we going to grow? And so I sort of popped up. You know, I was like 23 and walked into our leader's office and I was like, what's our, you know, what's our growth plan? And he said, what do you, what do you mean? I said, well, like, how are we going to get more clients? He goes, well, referrals.

4:54I mean, you know, Lenny referred Chuck Daly and Chuck referred Fertello and he goes through it. And I said, gosh, I mean, what if we got a little bit more aggressive? And he was like, what do you, what do you mean? I said, well, like we got baseball players here. We got Georgia Tech has a great program because we're based in Atlanta. and so essentially he looked at me after pausing for like 30 seconds what felt like an hour and he said look if you can figure it out knock yourself out go for it so i put a plan together and then i started with baseball and i would go down to georgia tech and literally lean on the fence and try to pick off top brown guys no way and you know i'm looking down the fence and there's you know guys and khakis and golf shirts and chewing tobacco and bubble gum and so i packed to chew and no, I'm just kidding.

5:39But I, but like that year I kind of, and I had to learn the language and I got to know the scouts and the parents and the, you know, the coaches and, and they helped me understand the business side of it. And, and, and I signed a couple guys that year and a couple more and, and it really just evolved. How long were you in the business? Almost 20 years. 20 years. And one of the neat things about that, which we're going to now going to talk about this world, I've had it on the show and with some of the mental work I do, the one percent type you know that freak so to speak especially the ones like you talk about in the book that repeat yeah they're they do think differently totally and that's why i love doing this show because now i got someone here up close by the way i'll show you an interesting um you met christiana my wife we met when we were little kids in elementary school also my best friend elementary school is greg ginski who's one of the top sports agents in the world now mainly in baseball he's with vayner sports now they've partnered but so i I love that business in that world.

6:35And I know there's a lot to it. There's negotiation. There's keeping the client. It's not losing the client. It's creating the experience and all that stuff. But in general, like that world of the top of the top, what is different about how they think in your mind? I know there's a lot different, but what first comes to your mind when I say that about the peak performers? I mean, I think what's really interesting is they don't focus on achievement. They don't focus on the outcome, which people think, well, that's totally weird, Molly. you're telling me these guys wake up every day and gals and they don't talk about winning and focus on winning.

7:08And yes, they have that sort of concept of you. I mean, that is certainly the North Star, but they're more worried about waking up every day and finding ways to get just a little bit better. They're curious about it. They want feedback. They're adaptable. They're resilient. They're ridiculously disciplined. The ones that do it over and over again. I mean, there's a really big difference between getting to the big leagues for a cup of coffee. That's right. And there's a really big difference between getting your card out on tour and the difference between those guys and the ones that win and stay out there.

7:42It's a desire to get better every single day without a focus on the outside in, more of a focus from the inside out. I want to ask you about that. I've tried to nuance this all my career in coaching people. And it's this. having a goal and an outcome, let's say to get to the big leagues, or if you're in the big leagues, the team to win the world series that year or to win the Super Bowl. So there's the outcome, but then it's not being attached and addicted to the outcome as you do the work, because oftentimes that can create additional pressure. It gets you off of process. So I know it's not in the book necessarily this one topic, but what are your thoughts on that?

8:23Like you're supposed to have a goal and an outcome, but being addicted to the outcome is not what the top do. No, no. I mean, they're addicted to the things that they can control to get better. They're not obsessed about the uncontrollables, the best ones. They don't obsess about all the noise. They're not, they're not waking up every day worried about what the triple A third base guy is putting up with the numbers. They're getting to the field and putting in the extra work. They're not worried about the other. And it sounds, I mean, they have a lens toward it, right? Like it's almost like the rear view, the side mirrors in your car.

8:59Like you glance at them because you kind of got to know what's going on, but you can't stare at them or you're going to run into a tree, right? Really good. So it's this visibility to it, but a laser focus on what are the things that I can control to get better. and it's also a world where it this is going to sound totally crazy but when i was an agent every single athlete i had about 300 athletes and coaches nba coaches college coaches broadcasters i mean a team of agents certainly that were helping us but every single one of them wake up every day and they have to get better because otherwise they totally i mean they'll lose their job and so it was so interesting to me when i sort of stepped away and started speaking and writing, I was like, this is so interesting.

9:47The world, people don't operate like that. And I know that sounds so ridiculous, but I really didn't know that that wasn't normal because all my life, that was sort of all I knew. You know what? Same here. When I got out of playing baseball and I got into the real world, I'm like, whoa. I remember my dad telling me, he goes, you know, you're going to figure out this whole getting ahead thing is not as difficult as you think. You're not even competing with about 85 % of the people because they're not even consciously trying to get better. They've got no process. They've got this dream of this, whatever they want, but they're not really doing things daily.

10:21And by the way, if you question this theory, everyone just go listen, go watch any YouTube video out there on Kobe Bryant, how much he talks about the process and that go listen to John Wooden, who literally never talked about winning yet one more than any coach in history. Look, go look at Tiger Woods. You just said, look, I just want to addicted to my process addicted to my process and i want to be in contention on the back nine on sunday but it wasn't always just to win and this is weird like thing that they project onto these people they're just winners turns out that's not what they're focusing on most of the time right no they're not what about this concept if they focus on it ed yeah they lose focus on the behaviors that in fact are going to get them to the outcome that they want i mean you know you play golf i play golf like if if you're sitting there and you're like wait a minute if i if i go par par birdie I'm going to come in under 80s.

11:10You bogey the hole. That's exactly right. Right? So it's the same thing. It's exactly why I said this separate from outcome. Wayne Dyer actually taught me that when I was really young because that's exactly what happens when you golf. You're like, hold on a second here. If I just go one over the last three, I shoot even. And then now you shot 77. Or it's being over the putt and you're so obsessed with what making this putt will mean to you. that you've elevated the pressure. And this is what happens to people when they walk into a board meeting, they've got a big presentation. If I get this account, I don't mean this, but if I don't, what will it mean?

11:46And you're, you're going through all these mashamations. And what's happening is this is what I, maybe you can speak to this. When you're outcome focused by definition, you are now not focused in the moment because that outcome is a future result. Even if it's one second from now, whether you make the putt or not, but if you're focused on the process, the execution of the thing you've got to do right now, now you're fully present. So when you hear people say, be fully present, you can't do that and be addicted to this winning outcome all the time. Totally. Totally. Well, and you hear great coaches say, be where your feet are.

12:17Like they tell their players. I mean, I often say that when I'm speaking to me, be where your feet are, right? The best present we can give people is to be present when we think about relationships and others. But it's hard in the world that we live in. I mean, there's so much noise. There's so much coming at us. And one of the things that I often talk about is there's so much in the world that we can't control, but there's so much that we can, right? Like attitude, mindset, all the things I talk about, curiosity, discipline, resilience. And I think sometimes we have to pull back in service of being present to your point and say, what are all the things I can control?

12:50Write them down, put them in an inner circle, and then all the things that you can't, put them in the outer circle and let them go. You know, it makes me think of, I mean, Ed, literally, I had a, my husband and I had our first child. She was five months old. And then I found out that I was 12 and a half weeks pregnant with twins. Oh, my gosh. With twins. And in the prime of your career or building your career. Totally. Prime of my career. And so I find this out. I look down at my watch. I'm at the OB doc office, at their office. I look down and I was like, I look at my husband, I look at the doc, I go, listen, I got a 1230 lunch with Doc Rivers, guys.

13:24I got to hop. Doc was in town playing the Hawks. I jump in my car, drive like a maniac to meet Doc, who had 45 minutes at the moment. And it was a moment where literally I'm walking into this meeting with Doc going, do I tell him? I mean, you know what I mean? Like you tell somebody you're in three kids in 12 months. It's jam a meeting up. You know what I mean? What did you decide to do? So I didn't. I parked it and it was a little bit of what can I control? I can control showing up and being present for doc serving him, you know, showing up in a way that will allow him. I mean, he had a lot going on at, we had 45 minutes.

13:57It was like, let's lock in on him. He's a great guy, but I'll tell him in a week or pitweeds. That principle, by the way, I have to tell you this idea of the, it just sounds so general. Well, Hey, just focus on what you can control. It's not what people do. Like just listen close. It's not what people do. And it's a foundational principle to peace, prosperity, success. Like my dad in sobriety. My dad was an alcoholic and you know this. And my dad was sober for the rest of his life, 35 years worth. And the whole part of the program that worked for my dad was understanding what was within his control and what wasn't and surrendering all of the things that weren't.

14:34They even say in AA, in the wisdom to know the difference, a wise person lives this way. Yeah. A wise person. And what ends up happening is, and you talk about this in the book, then you can actually focus on energy. And you talk about this a lot, like how I just did a podcast on this. So I'm so glad that you wrote it in the book, but your version of it's better than mine and, and, and a little bit nuanced too. But how much of like this idea of energy reserves and, and cause it's the, I do believe it's the key thing in my success. I don't deplete my energy with things that aren't within my control.

15:10And so just talk about the old world, because you talk about in the book, just energy, energy reserves, how that applies to success. Which is, I mean, that is amazing. I mean, good for you. Because it's hard to do that. It's really hard. It's really hard for people. And, you know, for me, I learned about this through mistakes, truly. Same here. I mean, I found myself at times just completely exhausted, totally drained. And I remember it was my mom flew in to help with our daughters when they were really young. And I was running around. I was like, you know, L.A., Vegas, Dallas, Keno. And I got home and I was exhausted and I was in tears.

15:44On one of the flights, I was literally flying back and I had my head, I was just, I was exhausted. And my mom, who's just the boss, looks at me and goes, what are you going to do? Like, you need to be more intentional. And so it was this, it was sort of a combination of that conversation. And then what I also saw with great athletes that allowed me to pull back and say, wait a minute. Energy is actually key to performance. And we live in a world, and particularly in business, that's operating against calendars. I mean, practically speaking, the world operates against time. But athletes and peak performers, they operate against the lens of energy.

16:23In service of saying, how do I have the kind of energy I need for what matters most? When it matters most. When it matters most. And it's funny. Sometimes when I'm speaking, I'll say, does anybody ever like show up to a meeting and get there and go, what am I doing here? Like, why am I in this meeting? And then you get to the meeting that really matters two hours later or the next day and you're not fully present. You don't have the energy. You haven't taken the time to prepare. So for me. What do you do for yours? And how have you preserved it? Well, I think one, I think it's about getting really clear first.

16:59Right. I think it's about creating, you know, I'm a big fan of alignment sort of versus the word balance, which candidly as a woman you hear all the time, like you can balance the kids and the work and it's about alignment. So I think first you've got to say, how do I show up as the very best version of myself in all the roles I play in my life? Right. So wife, mother, sister, parent, you know, all of these things. How do I show up as the best version of myself in all those roles? and then pull back and say physically, mentally, emotionally, relationally, and spiritually in all those roles, and then identify what that looks like.

17:37And I mean, this may sound like a total, a little bit intense, but I think you literally can pull back and create a spreadsheet, essentially, of all your roles, the best version of yourself in all those roles. And then I think you've got to say, okay, now I have the lens for yes and no. yeah and then the byproduct of that is alignment into your core values your mission your purpose the legacy you want to leave because i think what happens so often sadly is you know you ask people who are running around and they're busy and they're just hammering it and you go i asked this to a friend of mine the other day she was just grinding and tired and i said what are you what what are you chasing?

18:20Yeah. She goes, what are you talking about? She's got this big job. And I said, what do you mean? I said, what are you, what are you chasing? I mean, are you like, are you trying to get another house? Yeah. What is it? Yeah. And she goes, what the hell kind of question is that? It's the most important question. Totally. Yeah. And so for me saying, what am I going to say yes and no to? And then having the energy for those things. And, you know, this was me making a lot of mistakes. And again, my mom looking at me when our girls were young and said, somebody's going to raise those girls. And I hope it's you.

18:56Oh my gosh. And she's my idol. Yeah. Like, whoa, I got to get clarity. You know, it's, um, you know, I said, I'm good at that. But as we're talking, I go through phases where I am. And the question of like, what are you, what are you chasing? What are you getting? you know most people and true with me too i don't even know i just know like that's i'm a grinder yeah i'm after and i'm not gonna get outworked and yeah brendan bruchard and i were talking about this today like so many people are just white knuckling it through their entire life and i don't even think they remember why yeah it's what they know um they're they it may not be what they're even running towards i think oftentimes people are running from something that's a really good way to say it you know like you're just gonna keep running from whatever's bugging me whatever's in my past, whatever I don't want to be anymore, but I don't even know what I'm running to.

19:48And I remember my, um, it's maybe too personal, but I won't say their names. I think I said it on a show recently and I shouldn't have, but I remember when my, um, my godfather and my uncle, who I look like passed at 48, still don't know really what he died from. Um, but 48 is too young and I was at his funeral. And, uh, so I must've been, I'm going to make it up. I bet I was 21 at that funeral, something like that, maybe 20. And, uh, I remember his little boy got up there. My cousin, he was probably eight or nine. He had this little boy voice still, you know, he hadn't had puberty yet. And he goes, my daddy works so hard.

20:24I think he worked himself right into heaven. And I've never forgotten him saying that at that time. And I think so many people are going to literally just work themselves to death at some point. It might not be at 48, Right. But they may not have any more joy in their life by the time they get to 88 if they keep up at this pace. Why? What are you pursuing? You know, you can actually enjoy your life. And also, to your point in the book about sustained success. Really, to me, what I got out of the book is like there's a difference between getting to the tour for a year or two or getting. And by the way, I've watched this.

20:55I have way more friends that used to be wealthy than currently are. Wow. Meaning for a little while they did well. For a little while they were wealthy. Now they're not anymore. for a little while they were successful and now they're not the rarest thing in life is sustained success part of it is the addiction to winning not having a process that serves you part of it is depleting their energy but then the other parts of it are what you have in the book so what are some of the keys that we've not talked about to sustaining yeah a six because you've been around like you talked about you know lenny i mean i i got stuck in an elevator actually with You have an Atlanta one time.

21:32What a nice man, by the way. Just a wonderful man. Great player and a great coach. But he sustained success for a very, very long time. I look at the teams that, I look at someone like Mike Tyson, who repeated his heavyweight champion for a very long time. This is what's rare. It's rare to become a champion. It's really rare to repeat. What are some of those keys? Yeah, I mean, when I think about sustained success and to your question and to put a little ball on the energy piece, which is one of the keys in the book, what I would encourage people to do is look at your schedule through the lens of energy.

22:07And so one of the things I love to tell people to pull back and say, what are the things that give you energy that take under 30 minutes that give you energy physically, mentally, emotionally, relationally under 30 minutes? and then what are the things that give you energy over 30 minutes because what you hear a lot is oh well i got spring break in a month i got christmas break i got the weekend it's like no that's not sustainable though right so we want to make sure that we're inserting you know micro breaks throughout the day we're inserting the things that that are truly integral to us feeling our best you know what are those things i mean for me i have to protect workouts you know all All the, you know, sauna, cold plunges, like time with my girls, my husband, my parents, all that stuff.

22:49So I would just encourage people, because we live in a world that operates against schedule. Let's stay on that for a second. I won't stay on that one point. You know what I used to do? I used to fit those things in around my other stuff. Now I schedule those first. Do you do that? Totally. Okay. I didn't always. Me either. I did it after I. I'm like, I'll get it in. I'll get it in. And then I didn't always get it in. Right. And I think if you don't decide where you put your energy. Yep. Then everybody else will. Oh. right i mean good if you don't decide where you put your energy the world will everybody else will yeah very good and you know i don't think we should give that that is a precious resource to outsource so hey guys i want to jump in here for a second and talk about change and growth and you know by the way it's no secret how people get ahead in life or how they grow and also taking a look at the future if you want to change your future you got to change the things you're doing if you continue to do the same things, you're probably going to produce the same results.

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26:02I'm gonna let you tell the story, but I think the punchline of the story is most profound by the way. And I never got a chance to meet Zig, but would you tell him the story about, because one of the reasons I wanted you on is that I want people in the personal development and business space who have actually accomplished something and now they're teaching. And one of my concerns about the space and i and i think everyone i think everyone can help someone but there's a lot of people have entered this space and i'm like exactly have you what did they do before this and and and uh you know what i'm saying so you were one of the real ones in the fact that you had this extended career in a very difficult industry that was also male dominated and kind of zig zigler if you guys don't know who zig is it was like he's one of the mount rushmore's of motivation, personal development, business spaces, is Zig Ziglar.

26:52Tell him the story. Well, I mean, it was awesome. I mean, he was, my dad was a pharmaceutical sales rep. And so his office was in the basement of our house. And when I had two older brothers, I have two older brothers who literally treated me like a little brother, not a little sister. So when they weren't beating up, you know, pounding on me or had my head in the toilet or whatever was happening, I mean, it was brutal. I would go down to my dad's office and on the corner of his desk were these Zig Ziglar books and there was this stack of them and you know I'd go down and see him and I'd start to notice this stack of books by Zig you know see you at the top right like born to win secrets of closing a sale and I would I would pick them up and read them from time to time and I wasn't even really a big reader but I started reading them and I thought this is so interesting like and this was probably in like middle school, early high school.

27:41And I thought, wow, like you can take in information, you can take content in and it can change the way you do what you do. Like it can change the way you show up in the world and, and do what you do. And I thought, this is super cool. And we would listen to the tapes on my way. I played tennis at Michigan state. When I played junior tennis, we'd throw them in and listen to the cassette tape in the car. It was so good. Oh my gosh. so then I was like man I want to meet him like I got to meet this guy I mean I think and I literally wanted I thought I want to do what he does at one day and so I start blowing him up I mean letter to postcards letters phone call I mean just completely hammering him until he agreed to give me 20 minutes and I flew to Dallas and met with him and you know it's it's a I tell this story often on stage and I mean he was so humble so kind I mean to take 20 minutes or I mean a schlap at 21 years old and and he looked at me and he said you know molly here's here's what i would tell you go go do something just go do something and then maybe you can go talk about it yes and you know it was underwhelming at some level right deflating a little bit like well you're like i spent 200 bucks i worked hard for that 200 bucks to buy a ticket to come here yeah and you told me to go do something but you know he was right yeah i mean right like and that's you know it's about taking action.

29:02I mean, that's one of the things too. And I talk about his confidence comes through action. You know, we've got, we can't sit in a corner and just talk ourselves and do it. Right. Right. With all the athletes that I work with. I mean, like us speaking, you get more confident, confident, more comfortable, the more you do it, the more reps you get. Yes. Did you, by the way, I really believe that. I believe that's great advice. when you would observe these athletes coaches they're in a different stage of their career and i know you work with a lot of coaches too and then i'll ask you a coach question in a minute but when you observe the really great so you have to understand this everybody with athletics the idea of ever getting to play division one sports is so small it's unbelievable then the idea of getting from there and getting to any level of professional sports is ridiculously minuscule i mean like you're talking about everyone was the best player in their town Everyone was.

29:55And then when you get there, what's blown my mind as I've gone to speak to professional sports teams over the years is how many of the guys get there and don't take their lives and careers seriously. There's a huge difference in the NBA between certain players and others. You would think, ah, they're all the same coaches. They're all the same trainers. The same speaker came in and talked to the team. Yet there's a huge difference at that level. There's a huge difference in MLB. There's a huge difference in the NFL. The ones who stayed and built legacies and changed their families forever, what did they do different than the other ones?

30:34Because everyone's talented. So what was, were they earlier? Were they later? Were they more specific in their training? Like what was that? that well it's interesting you use the word talent and they didn't rely on talent they didn't rely on the talent because to your point everybody everybody that gets drafted everybody they're all talented and and that's one of the things i often tell parents is to not tell your children oh you're so gifted you're so talented you're just a natural because you know what then johnny thinks that's enough and it's not enough to do it where johnny might want to go do it so they don't rely on talent and to me they unpack you know they're they're curious they they they welcome obstacles you know to them you know challenges are opportunities obstacles are opportunities to get better they're resilient as heck because they're always pushing themselves to get better because they have to or they don't stay there so whenever we push ourselves into a stretch zone we get uncomfortable and it won't always work right like it's not like you and i every day like we go do x or y and we just nail it like anybody that's done anything that we've read about or that's a little bit interesting they they failed a ton don't they also though you and i were just talking about this with damon in the kitchen yeah like i love to be coached i love to be told what i'm I love to be told what I'm doing wrong.

32:08Yeah. Like I, I welcome it. I, this is something you got to really ask yourself if you're listening. Do you hear most feedback as criticism? And I think great players that I were around wanted to be coached hard. Yeah. Wanted the information. I, we were just in my kitchen talking about speaking. Yeah. Little nuance, little different things. Here's what I don't do well. Here's what you want to do well. You're sharing something. I'm sharing something. And if you gave a speech, I bet you would want me as a friend to go, hey. 100%. How can I get better? Yep. Right? Yep. And I think that's a subtle thing.

32:41I don't think most people ever ask, how can I get better? 100%. Give me some feedback. It might even hurt my feelings. I want this. Yeah. Most people are like, validate me. Tell me I'm incredible. Everything's great as it is. I'm amazing just as me. You know, like that's the whole message of person right now. Right, right. Is that one of the elements? I mean, they're curious. That's in the book, yeah. They're curious. They really want to know because, you know, you speak and people go, that was amazing. It's like, dude, no, I want my husband in the back of the house who's going to go, hey, listen, you jammed that up.

33:11You should have done this or you should have this. That's what you want. And you need, you know, we all need sort of that personal board of directors that has no agenda but for us to get better. And I think to your point, they look at the, you know, great athletes, high performers in any industry. They view no as feedback. not as a dead end or a blocker. In fact, I heard somebody say this. I thought this was cool. When they hear no, first they assume it's right. Interesting. So in other words, like when you get tough feedback, often, you know, we have a natural tendency to get a little maybe defensive, right?

33:50And that's where I think you turn defensiveness to curiosity. So good. And now we can, you know, tap into something, right, that we can do a little better. Why, uh, I'm really processing all this quickly. I'm loving this. This is my type of conversation right now. I love this. Why of everything did you call it dynamic drive? Yeah. They use the word drive a lot in your work. I watch a lot of your speaking drive, drive, drive. What is it? Number one. And why is that the centerpiece of the book? But drive, that could be a general term. What does that mean to you? Well, the reason dynamic drive, I mean, drive in the traditional sense, the word, like if you look it up in Webster, it's to pursue an outcome.

34:34Drive in the traditional sense is about achievement. And so it's finite, which to me is a very dangerous thing to pursue, something that in fact is finite. And so the opposite of dynamic drive, in fact, is complacency. Because the prime time to become complacent in life, ironically, is after you've achieved. because you, you know, hey, listen, you know, but when you see the best coaches in the world, or they win a national championship or a world tournament, they're on the phone grind in the next morning, trying to get another guy on the team or another gal on the team. And we live in a dynamic world that's ever changing.

35:10And so dynamic drive is, you know, the, the, the, the thing that I think is so critical for people to know is that it isn't reserved for elite athletes. Like it isn't something that people are born with. It It isn't some kind of a special, you know, DNA spark that these other people have that we all have access to this. We all have access to all of this. And what makes it a little bit different, I think, is that when we anchor it with purpose. So the red thread through all of the seven keys is this anchor around what is our mission? What is our purpose? because we know that when we're pursuing better, it's going to get hard.

35:54It's going to get harder. We're going to have speed bumps and we're going to get no and we're going to fail sometimes and we're going to wonder. But if we know why and it's anchored in something that is in our soul, man, they're just speed bumps that you drive right over and through. Yeah, it's got to be bigger than that bump. 100%. It's so interesting you say that because here's the real, real. I'm loving that we're having a real deal today. The greatest killer of drive is achievement, ironically, in most people. It's the actual achievement. If you're listening to this, you had a little bit of success.

36:26Are you like literally as starving, crazy, driven, dynamically driven as you really were when you were totally broke? Because when you got a little bit of success or you got that promotion or now you got a house or now you're making six figures or now you're making seven figures or now you're this. and the psychos of life, the great ones of life, somehow when they start getting fed some of this success, they're more driven almost. It's not some slow asphyxiation, inoculation to who they used to be. And then they lose themselves in this success. Golf's such a great analogy for that for me because I've watched different people win majors.

37:00And you can tell certain golfers when they win that first big major, they literally think their life is made. They go on like a nine-week party tour. They don't make a cut the next nine weeks. Totally. They're on late night talk shows. They get out of shape over the next two or three years. They put on 25 pounds. I have a very good friend who won the PGA Championship. I'm not going to say his name. And I swear to you, it's 30 years later. It's all he talks about to this day. No way. It was game over. But then when Tiger won a major, he's like, you know, 21 more to catch Jack or whatever it was.

37:32Like he got fueled by it. You could tell he was putting the green jacket on. I'm going to put this on myself next year. It's just, that's the thing. And it's because everyone's hungry when they're broke. Everyone's driven when it's not going. Not everyone, but most people have some level of drive when there's nothingness. But as the cup gets filled, are you still thirsty? Right. Or thirstier? When it comes to what your family eats and drinks, you know your choices matter. You're the expert because you know what fits your life. And getting it right starts with good information. That's why America's beverage companies are sharing more information about our ingredients at GoodToKnowFacts.org.

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38:46The other thing you write about in the book that this hits home for me, which was there's a difference between like success and fulfillment. Totally. And you talk about it in your speeches and that you also write about it. what to me to you what does that mean like what is the difference because there are then there's this hollow thing where people have like got their championship got their money got their house got their trophy got their title yet their internal world is a disaster is a disaster i know i know yeah and i think that is inherently this pursuit of a goal and attaching deeply to the traditional definition of drive and attaching deeply to something that is external versus internal.

39:35And if we're chasing something outside or something candidly material, and we think that's going to fill us up, you know, if you want to feel good for, you know, an hour, go eat a hamburger. You know what I mean? But if you want to feel good forever, then all of our behaviors have to be anchored in the legacy that we want to leave. and who we want to make an impact with. Who do we want at our 90th birthday party? What do we want on our tombstone? Right? Like that to me is such a critical thing to live in fulfillment versus success. I mean, you and I both know, and I think that was one of the things that I became so passionate about is seeing people achieve and achieve and achieve.

40:23And they were so alone. and it breaks my heart and I just don't want people I really it makes me emotional I don't want people to live like that I see that it's just it's not have you been good about it you you've been successful at at least two careers hard ones to be successful into the the speaking space like I said you're tremendous and uh that's not easy to get into and I hate to do a gender thing, but it's probably harder for a woman to write. And then in the sports world, uh, definitely more difficult for a woman, any unique things, cause my audience is about 50, 50. Okay. Any unique things that you would say to women when it comes to business or success or achievement or navigating these worlds, you know, for women to me, it is different.

41:11And I really, I really do appreciate you asking this question. Cause I, for me, I was told, you know, I had three kids in 12 months. And so when that happened and I had a team of agents, you know, everybody was like, hey, listen, you got it. Like you can balance it all. You can balance. So that was what I tried to do. I tried to like nail being a great wife, nail being a great mom, you know, take care of all the clients that I had, you know, the team of agents, make sure I'm calling my aging parents every day. I'm super connected to my brothers, you know, connected with them. My girlfriend's from college.

41:44And when you pull back and think about that, it is such a nebulous, unattainable, ridiculous pursuit. Like you're going to lay in bed every night and just the teeter-totter is going to be perfectly level. So for me, we've been told the wrong pursuit. That is not what we're chasing. In fact, I think to pursue anything in life wholeheartedly and do it at a level that you know is remarkably passionate passion-based purpose-centered you will be out of out of balance that's right you will be so to me it's about intentionality and alignment and so what i always encourage you know men and women to do but certainly women that are you know that want to thrive in their professional careers but not at the risk of compromising their health their most important relationships you know even their sleep their nutrition all of those things but they want to be able to do both and you can you can but it requires alignment you've used that word like three times what does that mean to you alignment yeah so one of the things i love to have people do is to pull back and say what are the most important things in your life okay right like so what are those things personally professionally and physically my all that and then so you've identified this list of things and then pull back and say on a scale of one to 10.

43:07How am I doing? Like, how am I doing? How am I doing on my workouts? How am I doing on being a spouse or whatever, a daughter, all of these different roles, a leader, how am I doing? And rate them. And then when you see the gap and you say, okay, they're all a 10 because they're important to me. I'm a five on something. I'm a six on something. I'm a four on something. I got a gap I got to get aligned so to me then you identify what that gap is and pull back and say okay how do I how do I realign that and and you know the truth is that was when I came home from that trip and I was in tears with my mom someone's gonna raise your kids I hope it's you right and that was when I went okay I'm out of alignment essentially got it and so I've got to now look at my schedule look at the things that are most important to me and to your point earlier put those in first protect those things and then fill in the gaps with everything else i always say that show me what you schedule first in your calendar and i'll show you your priorities the alignment thing made me think just for what it's worth i i've now seen a chiropractor because of my back and when i'm getting out of alignment he does an adjustment and uh it's important to check whether you're in alignment or not give yourself a metaphorical life adjustment yeah a crack.

44:25Totally. Give yourself a crack. Do you know who Jessica Mendoza is? The ESPN broadcaster. Do you know who she assists baseball on ESPN? I mean, I know her, but I don't know her. Yeah. So Jessica was on the show. She's become a friend since this is a long time ago too. There's been these moments on the show that have stood out for me over the years where usually in every interview, not every, that's not true. Probably in every eighth or ninth interview, someone will say something and it just goes in there for me and doesn't leave. And when I was done interviewing Jess, she goes, I just want to thank you for something.

44:52And I said, what's that? She goes, you didn't ask me as a woman how I keep everything in balance with my family and work. And I said, well, why is that a big deal that I didn't ask you? She goes, because men never get asked that. Only women. And it's a little bit offensive. You know, why in the world am I the one who has to have everything in balance? Balance is a fallacy in life. And it's one of those things I think that we project sometimes on is if women are supposed to actually keep all these things together. And I'm not doing the gender thing. But having said all of that, it is a little bit different.

45:20There are different pressures. There are more responsibilities and it's worth acknowledging as we do the show. Yeah. I mean, I'm glad. Yeah. And to me, the best gift for me ever was, is being a mom. I mean, it is the 100 % is the most incredible role that, that I have the opportunity to influence our, our three daughters. So no. And, and I think the reality is women do juggle still. I mean, we're, we're, we're different. I mean, and I'm just being real. I mean, I think, I think there's a reality there. Yeah. I think one of the realities is I don't mean this negative towards my brothers, but like a woman's responsibility and attachment to their children and the depth of that and what it means is it just seems to me to be, they're the primary kick taker most of the time, no matter what those roles have not changed.

46:12They came from your body, you know? And so there's just a depth there that I'm thinking about my kids a lot, but my wife's thinking about my kids all the time. Right. And I just, I think there's a, there's just a lot of weight there, by the way, you talk a little bit on your talks and in the book about like, you know, you also have the ability to reinvent yourself in life too. Right. Great people do that. Like I was watching a stat today about Tom Brady and they're saying, if you just took his career after he was 35 years old, that's the goat career of all time. Like after 35, right. That from 35 to 42 in that window.

46:51That's the greatest quarterback career of all time. It's not Mahomes. It's not Manning. It's not Montana. He won four Super Bowls, three MVPs and threw for like and won 20 playoff games or something in those after 35 years old. Not the previous one, right? Which is crazy. So he clearly continued to reinvent himself. Do you also see that trend, including yourself? You reinvented yourself. You went from the sports agent, female Jerry McGuire world to the speaking world, to the podcast world, to the author world. Is that another piece? And maybe as part of that guy going, what matters to me now? Totally.

47:24I mean, and I think you're, I think the way you live into your purpose in life, your mission in life, it can change. It can evolve. Right. I mean, for me, I loved every hot second of being an agent, man. It was so fun. It was amazing. And we had incredible clients, but then I wrote a book and people started saying, hey, will you come talk about it? And I was like, wow, this is landing. This is really helping people. I mean, a lot. And I remember just doing a little bit of that. I would go talk to sports marketing departments. I'd talk to teams. And then I wrote another book. And then companies were like, hey, will you come and talk about it?

48:00And that was when I went, whoa, this is helping a lot of people. And that's when I pulled back and thought, okay, I can negotiate a billion dollars in deals two billion five billion or could i maybe make a bigger impact doing this and leave maybe a little bit of a different legacy but one that maybe spans beyond just the sports world that's a full circle zig ziglar moment though right totally right like all of a sudden back to that desk and you know what's and you are you're a man of faith and and i am too a woman of faith and i didn't do that yeah no way man like i i go to atlanta like i'm an i loved every minute to be an agent i wrote a book my very first book i wrote because all these young kids were like i want to be an agent how do i become an agent so i would meet with all these kids because i wanted to help them my dad did not love his job and it always i thought wow and i figured it out once and i thought how many how many hours do you work in your life and it's a big number Sure is.

49:01It's like 82 ,000 hours or something. And I thought, wow, I don't want to hate it. You know what I mean? Like I want to love whatever it is I do. So it really struck a chord with me when I would try to meet with these kids because simultaneously I was recruiting athletes. And so these kids would come in and meet with me and they're young kids and they're essentially recruiting me. You know, I always say, get them to like you enough to hire you or help you. And I would meet with them. And then after like the third or fourth like guy that came up to meet with me, my boss walks by the office and he goes, like, is that guy a middle infielder for tech or like, who is it?

49:34And I was like, oh, no, he's just really nice. And then like the third time he's like, by the way, I'm not paying you to like mentor everybody in town. So I wrote a book to help him. And then it just, you know, it was all. And then the phone started ringing to speak and then it just evolved organically. And so like, I didn't do that. You did not do that. That's a goth thing for sure. Totally. But it doesn't just evolve organically. There's a moment of decision too. I mean, it evolved organically, but then there's the hard decision. So, um, I want to ask you about that because, you know, there's a moment, I do think you have to check in on yourself and go, is this still my dream anymore?

50:09We don't even check in on ourselves to your point. Like, what am I doing? Why am I chasing this still? Right. Like this was 20 years ago, dust off a new audit yourself. Is this until my dream? But there's probably people listening right now that have a job, but they've got a side hustle. Yeah. And they're thinking, hey, eventually you're leaving it. Or maybe they're in a kind of mediocre relationship and they're like, you know, I want to spend the next 20 years in this mediocre relationship I'm in.

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51:18That's the other thing that comes with where you currently are. If you've been doing anything a long time, you're probably pretty good at it. Now I'm going to go to this unknown thing. Who knows if the world's going to like me for 15 or 20 years or two years. How was that a hard decision? And how did you make it? Yeah, I mean, it's interesting. I mean, yes, I mean, it certainly was. And, you know, it's funny, my husband will say now, like, I mean, I thought she was going to just do this for a couple years and then figure it all out. But, you know, the truth is, Ed, what I had started to speak and I had really felt like, man, this is helping a lot of people.

51:50This is really cool. This is filling me up more. There you go. And I also felt like I knew how to recruit players and coaches. I sort of knew what that looked like. And it was not as challenging to me as it had been. But the truth is, I tell the story in the book and it was sort of a last minute decision. It was an evening and we thought, well, let's all go to a Braves game. And so, you know, whenever a team was coming in town to play and I had a player on another team, and obviously we had guys on the Braves, we're based in Atlanta, I would always try to go to those games because I could not see a couple guys at the same time.

52:24So, long story short, we're sitting on the third baseline. And we're all in a row, and we had a couple friends with us. And our girls were probably 6 '6 and 7. And it's the bottom of the sixth inning. And a player gets up to bat, and he sprays a foul ball that's probably going 110 miles an hour. And it hits one of my twins in the front of her head. Oh, my gosh. In the front right side of her head. I've never actually told this story before, but it hit her in the head. And we had, you know, it was where they were coming down and bringing us hot dogs and Cokes. And I mean, the ball was going 110 miles an hour.

53:00I mean, Chipper Jones was playing third base. He said, Molly, nobody could have made that. I wouldn't have made that play. So it hits her in the head and I look over at my husband and he looks at me like, this is bad. Like, this is not good. Because I had not seen it. I had turned. And so we scoop her up and emergency brain surgery, five hours, depressed skull, bone fragments all throughout her brain. Oh my gosh. And we had this miraculous doctor, Children's Healthcare of Atlanta, who I am forever. And again, a God wink, six months prior to that, I had joined the board of CHOA. so they do this unbelievable you know surgery pull out brain bone fragments in the brain nine plates in her skull they wheel her back at like five in the morning to a room and i'm there and the doc comes in the next morning and he said look you know this is really bad i mean like her brain is gonna swell for sure he's like you don't get hit with a fastball like this and and then like five hours later he comes back and you know she's got gauze all over her he comes back and he said it's not it's not swelling yet but it's gonna i mean this is just way you it will and then like the next day he's like this is incredible it's not swelling like this is and i mean she certainly there's definitely i mean it was absolutely challenging no question about it but you know she is a highly functioning you know just thriving young woman who you know god protected no question about it but i share that story in the book in part because i don't you know the irony at some level isn't lost on the fact that a sports agent daughter gets hit in the head with a baseball and three months later i left the business and so i often say like i I almost wonder, right?

54:58Like it was like, what do I need to do to tell you to go do this other thing? Do I need to do all of this? Sounds terrible. I'm going to hit your daughter over the head with this. What do I need to do? And so. And she's okay. Yeah. She's unbelievable. She's just incredible. She's a total miracle. That's a great story. But, you know, so was it a hard decision? It had started to build and I was feeling more clarity to step away. and do that. And then that happened. And, you know, it was almost like, I don't know what else I need to do to tell you to, to, to step away and go do this. And, and, you know, and I'm just, obviously it's like most change in life.

55:41You sort of pull back and go, God, I wish I had done it sooner. Yeah. Yeah. You know, I mean, you, you pull back and go, God, I wish I had that, you know, what's to like have done it earlier. Cause I probably should have. It's all worked out though. You've made such a difference with your speaking, by the way, with the book too, by the way, it's called dynamic drive. You guys should go get it. Let me ask you one last question. I'm just going to leave this one open. I usually don't finish interviews this way, but there's a lot in the book we didn't get a chance to cover. Is there a lesson or a strategy in the book that you want to kind of gift the audience with, or a thought that I didn't ask you about that is left in the book?

56:14There's stuff in there on negotiation, which I found fascinating too, but like, what would you, what would you leave us with? I, you know, I think if anything, it would be take action, right like go it's like zig said to me go do something because i think you know what we confidence comes from action and you know i remember when i was on the beach in northern michigan where i grew up as a kid we would go up there and and i asked my mom that question i said mom like if i could instill one thing in these girls as they grow up like what would you say is really critical and she said confidence and that's literally the seventh key in the book in other words, confidence is so critical to having the courage to step into change, to having the courage to ask questions, to having the ability to take feedback, to hear, know, and keep going, to be resilient.

57:04You know, it takes confidence to do things that are maybe a little bit different than everybody else, which sometimes shows up like discipline. So I would encourage people to step and take action. And that's how we can unlock the spark that's inside of everybody. That isn't just for great athletes. It's inside of every single person that's listening to those podcasts. And it isn't reserved for elite athletes and coaches. It's in all of us. And my mission in life is to help everybody spark it. You did it today. By the way, I think that was probably a critical thing I should have asked you about earlier, but this is for everybody.

57:39It's not just for these people you see on TV. That's how they got on TV is because they do these things that are in the book. So go get dynamic drive. You guys, Molly, this was really good. Like really, really good. I like when the conversations are easy and they flow. Someone knows what they talk about. They know what they believe in and they know how to talk about it. It makes the show really easy to do. And there was some stuff in there for me today, just on evaluating what your dream is currently that's making my mind turn a little bit, even as I'm talking to you right now. So that's cool.

58:05Thank you. Thank you so much. So fun. So good guys. All right. Hey, listen, uh we talked about her book make sure you get on the email list they keep telling me to remind you guys of this because you can get the programs earlier edmylett.com go put your name in there share this episode fastest growing show on the planet in this sector for a reason god bless you max out this is the ed mylin show

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The Secret to Sustained Success
The rarest thing in life isn’t success—it’s sustained success. How do the greatest performers, leaders, and athletes not only reach the top but stay there? That’s what we’re unpacking today with the incredible Molly Fletcher.

Molly was a trailblazing sports agent—dubbed the “female Jerry Maguire”—who negotiated over $500 million in contracts for some of the biggest names in sports. She’s now one of the most in-demand speakers in the world and the author of Dynamic Drive, which breaks down the keys to long-term success. In this conversation, she shares the mindset shifts, daily habits, and high-performance strategies that separate those who stay great from those who fade away.

We talk about why the best don’t focus on outcomes, but instead on the process—a lesson from the greatest champions in the world. Molly explains why protecting your energy is critical, how to prevent achievement from leading to complacency, and how to find alignment in life so success doesn’t come at the cost of fulfillment. And for anyone thinking about making a big life transition, her personal story of reinvention will show you how to take that leap with confidence.

If you’re chasing more—more success, more fulfillment, more impact—this conversation is for you.

Key Takeaways:

Why the top 1% aren’t addicted to winning—but to getting better every day

The hidden killer of success that no one talks about

How to align your life so success and fulfillment go hand in hand

The power of reinvention and how to know when it’s time to pivot

A simple exercise to protect your energy and avoid burnout

This one is packed with real, actionable insights from someone who’s lived it. Let’s go!

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