How To Live Longer & Grow Rich With A.I. w/ Peter Diamandis

28:02So I'm actually much more aligned with him than you might imagine. So I think AI is the single greatest tool for humanity ever. It's Sundar, the CEO of Google said it's more powerful than electricity or fire. And I agree. The way I say it, there are going to be two kinds of companies at the end of this decade. Those fully utilizing AI and those that are out of business. It's like not using the web or not using a phone if you're an entrepreneur. So you have to become fluent. You have to experiment. I mean, you can go to AI and ask it any question. right? Like, what questions should I ask you? It's a beautiful tool.

28:52So in the long run, I'm very pro AI. I think Mo and I are on the same side. So let's divide AI into three parts. There's AI today, the GPT-4 and chat GPT and the various variations of that. And it's great. And if it stayed just here, I'd be super happy with it. But it's going to progress. And then the next phase is what's called AGI, Artificial General Intelligence, where AI is at the human level. And then it progresses very quickly to ASI, Artificial Super Intelligence. Okay. And I believe that the more intelligent a system becomes, the more pro-life it is. the more pro-respect and support. You know, Hollywood, not a few miles from us, has made its business in dystopian scenarios of the Terminator.

29:57But there's no reason for super advanced AI to want to harm us. I think that, if anything, we'll see AI be bored with us and move on its own. which is a great movie scenario. At the end, when the AI becomes super intelligent, the AI... Let me challenge that for a second. I'm gonna ask you about that. Okay. One of the things Mo said to me, because I agree, but one of the things Mo said to me was, I'm not concerned about the machines. I'm concerned about the people that are controlling the machines. Yes, so that's different. So that is... Advanced super intelligence, for me, is the ten years out.

30:35Okay. The near term, it's the, you know, one to ten year horizon, when I put one because of the 2024 elections, which Mo calls patient zero, it is humans using AI for nefarious purposes. So it's not artificial intelligence, it's human stupidity I'm concerned about. And I agree with him there. We're going to see AI used by bad actors to take down a power plant, take down a Wall Street server. you know, drive fake news. We're gonna see these negative iterations occurring, and that's the challenging part. How does... That's the challenge. We've already had a little of this, but of someone every day living their lives, being able to distinguish between the algorithm feeding them something and truth and falsehoods.

31:30That's a really serious, significant challenge to this, among all of the ancillary tremendous benefits. So, one of the phrases I use and I teach entrepreneurs is, the world's biggest problems are the world's biggest business opportunities. Love it. I love it. I want to become a billionaire, help a billion people. That's kind of mindset. And there are going to be real challenges around this. And there are a multitude of companies working on, how do I slay them? How do I really understand whether it's going to be using blockchain or some other, throw in any other fancy exponential tech that you want to throw into the equation to try and solve it.

32:13But how do you solve it? How do you demonstrate something that's actually truthful? Right. Versus a deep fake, or whether it's been stretched, or how do you keep from being in an echo chamber? One of the things I wrote about in my first book was this idea of cognitive biases. We all have these cognitive biases in our brain. Our brain can't handle all of the data it receives. And so over the years, we've created these cognitive biases. Like we pay more attention to negative news than positive news. We like someone who looks like us more than someone who doesn't look like us. We give more value to recent information than past information.

32:49And we don't actually realize how much our brain is biased in these ways. And so AI, you'll be able to flip a switch that says, Make me alert me to when I have my cognitive biases and keep me straight and tell me when something is false or doesn't have a high gold standard of authenticity to it. So there's going to be these tools that can help us. And again, don't forget, we tend to see the negative dystopian aspects of everything way early. We see problems 10 years ahead, and we accelerate them to today. and we get scared shitless by them. But we forget we're going to have a lot of ability before they actually get here to have entrepreneurs solve these problems.

33:38I define an entrepreneur as someone who finds a problem and solves it. So I remain hopeful. I am concerned. There's no question that I'm concerned about the dystopian uses of AI. I also want to get, and I'm involved in, you know, AI alignment, and this is an area I'm working with a few different AI experts, how do I make sure that these... this artificial general intelligence and this artificial superintelligence is aligned with humanity's interests? Right. That's the rub, right there. Yeah, and so that has to be, you know, Mo, for those who have not heard Mo on Ed's show, please go find it and listen to it.

34:21He's amazing. Um, you know, one of the... one of the analogies he uses is that we are the parents of this AI, right? And it's our responsibility to teach it. And we've been teaching it passively by all the things that are on the web. It's been scraping the web, and it finds hate speech, it finds biases, it finds all of these things. So we have to become more tuned and more, you know, intentional about how we're teaching these AI systems. Particularly right now, in my view. It's the next two years. It's the next two years, because that sets the course for its brain going forward, its theoretical moral compass going forward.

35:05I have two worries about it. I want to ask you about the second one. We addressed the first one, is a bad actor getting a hold of it in some way and biasing it in a particular direction. The second one is how it's going to affect labor and work. A human being's ability to earn a living. I had this thing that I was reading that you talked about that this is from you. You can correct me if I quoted this wrong, but Goldman predicted robots will have$154 billion in revenue the next 15 years, these humanoids, right? So that tells me that's revenue that's come from somewhere else, too. So I'm concerned about the world as we know it, people being able to make a living in so many different industries that there may not be a necessity for them.

35:44Or do you have this optimistic view that new industries will be created as a result of this technology that will just replace dated industries like we have in every other revolution and people find a way to employment? Let me dissect my thinking and you can tell me how you feel about it. First of all, you asked a question earlier about if we're living longer, are we tripling the population of the planet? And, you know, Elon talks eloquently about this. I put the data out as well. the biggest challenge we have is not going to be overpopulation of planet Earth, it's underpopulation. I've heard him say that.

36:19I don't understand it, but I've heard him say it. Well, I'll give you the numbers. So 50 years ago, globally, the average was 5.4 children per family. Okay. Across all nations, globally. And as - How many years ago? 50 years ago. Okay. And what we've seen now today is that number has dropped from 5.4 children per family. The replacement level is 2.1, accounting for childhood mortality and so forth. Today, we've gone from 5.4 globally to 2.4 globally. People are having less children. The U.S. is below the replacement level. Most of Europe is below the replacement level. China. Italy is way below their placement level, as is Japan and China and so forth.

37:09So the majority of all nations, the vast majority, are having less children than required to maintain the population. Africa is the only continent where it's higher, and it will also come down as it becomes higher. Educate, economics improve, and health improves. Seems it's correlative, right, between the two. And we're gonna peak at nine, nine and a half billion, have a very rapid decline. So the question becomes, the bigger challenge is, where are we going to get the labor to maintain standards of living in 20, 30, 40, 50 years? And it's going to be robots and AI. So now the question is, the biggest concern I have is not are people doing work, because a lot of people are doing work they don't want to do, right?

37:54I mean, we're lucky in what we do. But if you're cleaning toilets and waiting tables and what you really wanted to do was something else, and you're doing the labor to put food on the table, insurance for your family, what do you dream of as a kid that you wanted to do? And the biggest challenge for me is going to be, how do we maintain purpose in people's lives? So one of the books that will be early 2024 book with me is Mindset Mastery. It's really about purpose. It's really what mindset do you have, and how do you shape your mindset? Again, our brains are neural nets. What we feed our brains shapes the way we deal with opportunities and challenges.

38:42What we see, what we hear, feel, and see. Our RIS kicks in, and it's finding what we most deeply believe. Exactly right. And so am I worried about displaced jobs? Yes. I think that what we're going to start to see is human AI co-pilots collaboration, where, you know, in the field of medicine, to be very specific, it'll be malpractice soon to diagnose a patient without having AI fully in the loop. Yeah, I see that. I can see that. And there's... I remember when my dad passed about five years ago, and he had had pretty advanced neurodegenerative disease. He had broken his hip, and a broken hip, as you know, is a very...

39:26It's, you know... It's a large percentage of people are dead within a year. It's the beginning of the bad. It's the beginning of the bad, right. You had cardiovascular issues. And so my mom and my sister is an amazing physician, and myself were in there. I hadn't been in the hospital in years. And the doctors and nurses would come in, look at the numbers on the machine, you know, and then walk out. And I'm like, huh? What's wrong with this picture? And what I really want is AI to do all of that. and I want the doctors and nurses to humanize the experience. There's a saying... Okay, wow. There's a saying, automate the routine and humanize the exceptional.

40:06So there's a partnership to be had there. Wow, you flipped that for me right there. Because I saw it going the other direction. It's much less of a humanization of the processes that we'd be involved with. But to your point, if they could handle the process part, the humanizing of the interactions we have with the other and these businesses, particularly medicine and even law. Everything. Yeah, everything. Everything. It's like, you know, human, personal, personal connection. And then we're all... Well, and the world needs more of... Can I just say something to you? Sure. The world needs more of your perspective on this.

40:36I did. Thank you. I knew today would be extraordinary, but actually a couple of these... I'd call them actually my own biases regarding a couple of these things. You're challenging them. And I'm not easily flipped, but I actually tend to agree with both things you've said regarding the population, food, AI. I actually feel a little bit better right now. Oh, thank you. I interrupted you. I wanted to interject that. Optimism dosage. Going back, it is the most amazing time ever to be alive. Do we have problems? Absolutely. We've got issues on mental health. We've got obesity problems at the same time that we have a billion people underfed.

41:16We have still the threat of nuclear war. We have all kinds of problems. But would I rather deal with those problems with the tech we have today versus 30 years ago? Wow, great point. Right? So those... And so 30 more years from now, or three more years from now. So that's it. We are getting more and more powerful tools to solve the challenges that we have today. And that keeps me hopeful. You have a particular mindset. mindset. And in your book about abundance, you list these different mindsets. And I'm actually kind of watching you embody them, actually, as you're talking. So I'll read them and then just tell us a little bit about them, right?

42:00So you believe mindset's like maybe the most valuable asset that we can have. The way I say it is if you look at Mahatma Gandhi, Martin Luther King, Elon Musk, Jeff Bezos, and you said, what made them successful? Their money, their friends, their tech, or for their mindset, right? Just answer that question and you say, well, mindset, of course. Great. Then if mindset's the most important thing you have for being a leader, then my next question is, what mindset do you have? Where did you get it? And what mindset do you actually want and need for the decade ahead? This is the biggest thing that I do work with people on.

42:37And a lot of these mindsets were installed in us when we were defenseless as children. As kids, right? Not only our mindset, but our emotional imprinting which leads to some of our mindsets, and they feed one another. Or passively while you're, you know, vegging out watching TV. 100%. It's still being fed to us, and we're sort of these targets. In the book, just talk about this a little bit. Abundance, exponential, moonshot, longevity. These are different mindsets. Guys, listen to the goodness man's work. I'm serious. It's so good. We evolved on the savannas of Africa during a period of fear and scarcity.

43:13Those mindsets that we had, and they're wired into our brain. We fear because being in a state of fear saved our lives most of the time. Again, if you saw a rustle in the leaves, you thought lying. You didn't think wind. And one time out of 10, it would save your life. And so fear was an ever-present state. And scarcity because, well, food was scarce. It really was. You didn't know where your next meal was coming from. And so it's wired deeply into us. The opposite is an optimistic and abundance mindset. And we truly are living in a world of abundance. People may not realize it because they're not looking or paying attention, but across everything, access to food, right?

44:05I mean, honestly, you can get any fruit on the planet instantly, you know, all the time, delivered by Uber in 30 minutes. I mean, holy moly, that's incredible, right? That's incredible. And, you know, energy and access to health and information and AI. So we're living in this massive world of abundance. And optimism, again, you just have to think about what was life even just 100 years ago? Gosh. You know, we would be working 60 and 70-hour weeks just to survive, right? We had none of what we consider modern-day activities. No TV, no electricity, no phones, none of this stuff. New York was buried in horse manure.

44:53It was the biggest environmental disaster 100 years ago was the horse manure disaster. I mean, it was insane. It stank in Manhattan.

45:06So, we have gone from fear and scarcity mindset to those who want to see the world in abundance mindset. And abundance mindset says, listen, if you've got a pie and extra friends come over for dinner, instead of just slicing the pie into thinner and thinner slices, which is a scarcity mindset, let's just bake more pies. Right? And the realization is that technology is a force that turns whatever was scarce into abundance. I'll give you an example. There's an orange tree and I pick the lowest oranges off the branches. I'm 5 '4", 5 '4 and a half, I'm going to add that half inch in there. You know, all of a sudden oranges become scarce until I invent a piece of technology called a ladder that gives me higher reach.

45:54Now they're abundant again. Right? We used to kill whales on the ocean to get whale oil. That was our energy source for lighting our nights. Then we ravaged mountainsides. Then we drilled kilometers under the ground in the ocean for oil. And now we're bathed by 8 ,000 times more energy from the sun than we consume as a species in a year. And then fusion's coming. We have a massive amount of squandorable abundance of energy. So that's the abundance mindset. What is really scarce? No, bullshit. It's not scarce. You just haven't figured out how to make it abundant yet. Wow. All right. So what's the next mindset?

46:28Exponential mindset. This one's a challenge because we are wired for linear thinking. So if I said to someone, listen, can you point on the ground where you're going to be in 10 steps? You can pretty much point where you're going to be in 20 steps or 30 steps. We're really good at linear projection. Our brains are wired. Can I get to that tree before the lion gets to me? That wiring is amazing. But we're living in a world of exponential growth, computation, storage, all of these things. What's exponential mean? It means a simple doubling. 1, 2, 4, 8, 16, 32. This also refers to as Moore's Law, the amount of computational power doubling per dollar every 18 months.

47:09Well, in 30 linear steps, you're 30 meters away. In 30 exponential steps, you're not 30 meters away. You have literally gone around the planet 26 times. You're a billion meters away. And that disconnect between linear thinking and exponential thinking is what can shock or surprise us. It's what put Sears out of business, right? It's what put Barnes & Noble out of business, right? Blockbuster. Blockbuster out of business. It's interesting. Netflix, Blockbuster had two opportunities to buy Netflix. I know. And it passed on it twice. I won't go into that. It's a long story. But, and you know, why didn't...

47:51Okay, anyway, what we're seeing here is linear thinking humans not understanding exponential growth, which is giving this amazing world that we have, but can disrupt your business if you're not thinking. So I try and teach people, entrepreneurs in particular, how to think abundantly, how to take your products and services and digitize them, dematerialize them, demonetize them, democratize them, or how to think exponentially. Moonshot thinking builds on both of those. And most of the world is trying to go 10 % bigger. Like in our core businesses, in our typical entrepreneurial mindset, it's like, if I can just do 10 % more revenue, right?

48:36It'd be awesome. Or 10 % lower my cost, or whatever it might be. And that's fine. And that's what everyone's trying to do, and you're trying to compete against them. In a moonshot mindset, like, scrap that. I want to go 10 times bigger, which is 1 ,000%. And the realization is if you're going to try and go 10 times bigger, you can't do it by working harder. You can't do it by just doing the same thing you're doing in the same way. You have to literally discard what you've been doing and start from the clean sheet of paper. Right? So this is what Elon's been so extraordinary in. And I've watched him at SpaceX from the very beginning, where he wanted to go and build a space business.

49:27He wanted to go to Mars, and he travels back, I was with him back in 2001. He travels to Russia to go and buy a Russian rocket to launch originally a mouse around Mars, later on to land a plant on the Martian surface. He goes there, and here they see someone who just sold PayPal to eBay, and here's this American with money, and they try and rip him off on the prize. You know, these are ICBMs. These are intercontinent ballistic missiles where the warhead comes off and you put your payload on. And he's an engineer's engineer. He's brilliant beyond belief. His success is not surprising. And he says, this is ridiculous.

50:12They want me to pay a ridiculous amount of money for 50-year-old ICBMs. So he comes back and he starts with a clean sheet of paper and reinvents the industry. He says, no, the rocket engines need to be completely reusable. The stage isn't reusable. And he basically goes 10 times better versus 10 % better and has dominated the industry. It's like, what are the world leaders in terms of space business? It's China, it's the US, it's Elon. It's crazy. It's crazy. It's true, though. It's true. And so how do you start with a clean sheet of paper and reinvent your business using these exponential technologies?

50:54That's moonshot thinking and longevity thinking. Listen, your mindset, as you well know, is the single most important thing you have as well for your health. Uh, if you, and I began my longevity platinum trip with the conversation with my, my abundance members, they are saying, how long do you think you're going to live? Right. And how certain are you that we're going to add 30 healthy years on your life this decade? What's your longevity mindset around this? If you don't believe it, if you really are, are anchored to where your dad passed away or the average life expectancy, then maybe you're not going to be looking as hard for those breakthroughs.

51:36Maybe you're not going to be working out as much or skipping that donut, right? But if you do believe that this is coming, you're like, I'm going to do everything I can to be in the best health to intercept this technology five years or ten years or 15 years from now. And that's the longevity mindset. So I teach these through my Abundance 360 program to the CEOs I mentor. And I write about these because I think these mindsets are the mindsets we need to really thrive in the decade ahead. This interview, everybody should go back and listen to repeatedly, but I've got to tell you, this last part, I read this.

52:15Look, I read everything. I do a bunch of podcasts, right? I mean, you and I have similar contacts and friends, and I reflected on this. So I want to just share this with everybody. The abundance mindset, I think I've had that most of my life. I actually, that's something that you've heard before, somewhere a variation of that. We've all heard that the way you articulate it and explain it, put it in context. The syntax of it is brilliant. It's different. I've had an abundance mindset. That's probably why I'm wealthy. That's probably why my life's turned out pretty well. Then I actually really ask myself, this exponential mindset, do I actually think this 30 times I'd be around the world?

52:50I don't know that I do. I am in a pattern of thinking that is much more linear in my life than it ought to be, particularly with the momentum that I have, the access that I have, the capital that I have. I should be thinking exponentially more often. And I should have a part of me that's got this moonshot mindset. And you're 100 % right. Rob Dierdick's a good friend of mine. I think Rob's number's 125. We talk, we tease each other all the time. He said it to me 100 times, I should know what it is. But he's like, I said, well that's a great number. He goes, brother, because of you, I believe that.

53:23I'm looking for the technologies, the medicines, the training, the mindset. He goes, I'm a much higher probability of hitting the 125 because I believe it and I think about it than if I don't. All of you should evaluate this. You don't know what you don't know. And it's the invisible things in our life. It's what we're not doing oftentimes that we don't see, that we don't realize we're not thinking about, that when we get to the end of our life, we're going to regret because this information has been here the entire time. And we can get comfortable when we've made gains, I think, going, okay, that was exponential.

53:53Now I'm at this, like, abundance, grow a little bit part of my life. But at any stage, if you begin to think these different mindsets, things can dramatically change in your life. You can dramatically be a different human being. So his work's so brilliant. I want to go a couple more things because we're going to run out of time. So we've talked about the, what I would call life extension stuff. We've talked a little about the mindset stuff. This then ties into... You say, like, for example, in your recent book, this linear mindset, linear companies. It's a different context, but, like, a linear company's toast, right?

54:27It is. It will get massively disrupted. Um, we're gonna disrupt and reinvent every industry this decade. There's not a single industry, uh, that isn't going to be completely reinvented as AI is coming in. We haven't even talked about, you know, quantum technologies that are coming, or a brain-computer interface or all these other pixie dust magical technologies, but are real and will be materializing over the decade ahead. I was just thinking, I was watching the news last night and Fox News was, I watched Fox and CNN. I love to hear what everybody's saying, right? And I watch each of them for about, I'd say eight minutes a week now.

55:05Because I won't feed myself these things anymore. I just won't do it anymore. I used to really watch and I'd feel like I needed a shower afterwards and I was stressed and so I don't watch anymore. But sometimes if SportsCenter's over or whatever's happening, I'm about to nod off, I'll take a look at it. And they were sort of trashing these autonomous vehicles that are now running around San Francisco, and there's this huge risk and this other thing. And I thought to myself, man, you don't understand what's coming here. Like, someone's gonna play this clip of you guys six years from now. Listen, it was the same clip that was played 100 years ago when the cars were entering Manhattan and the buggy-whip manufacturers were trashing the car.

55:46Do you feel like these advances that are forthcoming mean a company needs what you call in the book? You call it, I think it's an MTP. Yeah. So I think this is an appropriate place in the last couple of questions to ask you about. Because if you do own a company or you're an entrepreneur or you have a side hustle, how do you take advantage and not get disrupted by this but be a disruptor in these times? This MTP concept, I already took it to my companies. I've already taken it. And so I want you to talk about that. So one of the things that every Abundance member I have, I want them to develop an MTP, a massive transformative purpose, and a moonshot.

56:28Everybody coming through my Abundance program, that's table stakes, right? And so your massive transformative purpose is a short enough phrase that provides clarity to the world of who you want to serve, what is the big impact you want to provide, right? And the action verb. So for me, my personal MTP is to inspire and guide entrepreneurs to create a hopeful, compelling, and abundant future for humanity. And I say it every day, twice a day, everyone in my family, everyone of my members know it. It decides what I do and don't do. in a world of near infinite, abundant of opportunities, and we're getting, you know this, you're bombarded by more opportunities you possibly know of.

57:15How do you decide what to do and what not to do? Yes. Right? And my MTP is my filter. It's my vector that helps me decide. That's fascinating. Not for me. Doesn't fit in your MTP. Doesn't fit in, right? It's not gonna, and MTP is sort of the canvas you wanna paint your life. And then your moonshots are on that canvas. They're the very clear objective goals. I'm going to do this, this, and this by this target date. So my earlier MTP was making humanity multi-planetary, and my moonshots were building my International Space University and building the XPRIZE, and I built a launch vehicle company.

57:58But an MTP is driven by passion. You know this from your work and from our common and friend Tony, we are emotional, energetic beings. And we need to be driven by that emotional energy. And MTP is driven by emotions. Either positive emotion of awe and amazement, I'm gonna, holy, this is the most extraordinary time ever to be alive, or it could be one that's got a negative energy. I refuse to let this harm continue for this people. I'm going to solve it. As long as it comes from one of those areas. And then, again, it's a broad canvas, But then your moonshot is very concretely, I'm going to, you know, in XPRIZE, it was I'm going to build a$10 million prize to inspire private companies to launch three adults into space, land, and do it again within two weeks.

58:49Very clear, very measurable. People know whether I pulled it off or not. Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. So a moonshot is a very specific objective goal. And it's a target to shoot for. Without a target, you're going to miss it every time. So what is that target, right? So I actually have... I built an AI to help people develop their MTP and their moonshots. Moonshotplanner.com. It's free, and it'll just help you develop your MTP. It'll take you through a process, and then once you've done that, help you develop your moonshot. Brilliant is an inadequate word to describe your work. I mean it. You exceeded my expectations today.

59:33I have one more question, by the way, if you guys want to stay for this. But I mean this. Everybody, you can feel something here today, right? This is a man whose work you should just stay close to. Thank you, pal. Don't you feel like you'd be much more well-informed if you stayed close to this man? Follow him on Instagram. By the way, the new book's Exponential Organizations 2.0. It's unbelievable, but all of his work is. I'm so grateful you exist. Thank you, pal. You're pushing it. You're pushing it. I like it. I live this on my sleeve. I know you do. It's who I am. I can see it. I mean, it is you.

1:00:03Yeah. And I'm really grateful we did this today. And I do want to do it again. And I'm more, it's not empty inspiration. It's actually factually based, evidentiary stuff that I feel really, really better about the world and my own life and where we're all going as human beings for being around you. I want to ask you one last question. It's just a crazy one. Yeah. If you're a little bit embarrassed to say it, but you were gonna say it, and people said, what's one of your visions you're gonna see in your lifetime that most people would give you the eye roll for? They go, Peter, now you're out over your skis.

1:00:36But in your private moments with your best friends who are alone, you go, you know what's gonna happen while I'm alive that nobody can imagine is gonna happen? It's this. What would it be? Yeah, I'll give you a few, because I have an ambitious lifespan objective. I set in medical school a ridiculous lifespan of like 500 years, because if Greenland sharks can live that long, why can't I? And by the way, if we're able to live 30 more years, the breakthroughs we're going to see in 30 years are just literally unimaginable. So what is the crazy idea? Well, the little nine-year-old in me, who's a space cadet, wants to go and start a little town on the moon.

1:01:23That would be fun. But that doesn't feel unimaginable, that's just a matter of money. The tech is here and coming rapidly. I think the most incredible and unimaginable concept is uploading yourself, right? So can you take your persona encoded in your brain, 100 billion neurons, 100 trillion synaptic connections, and move that information, your consciousness into the cloud? We're going to do it in a piecemeal part. Ray Kurzweil, who's been my mentor, he's my partner and co-founder of Singularity University, writes that by 2033, we're going to have high bandwidth brain-computer interface, meaning the neocortex of my brain is connecting to the cloud.

1:02:10I can think a question and Google it and get the answer. That is not unimaginable. That's real. And the tech, I've seen it. I've I've seen Neuralink from Elon as part of it, but I was just on this Platinum trip, I saw a few companies that are moving the technology. So we've got like 10 different approaches to that technology heading towards 2033. And that's gonna be making us, you could think of us as somewhat cyborg, but the ability to go beyond that and actually upload your consciousness, that is when we might become immortal in that regard. That is absolutely mind-blowing. You should see my producer in the background.

1:02:56He's literally praying hand, leaning, pondering what you're saying in the background right now, which is like what millions of people are doing. They're just going, oh, my gosh. You're a treasure. Thank you, pal. I'm so grateful. And everybody, let me just say this to you. You are welcome for today. I'm very, very grateful. You just got this, everybody, for free. You had to listen to a couple of my ads, but beyond that, it was free, and so would be following Peter. So please do that and please share today's show. Like, guys, if I have to ask you to share today's show, you ain't ever sharing a show.

1:03:31This was epic and I'm very, very grateful and I hope that this is the first of maybe every year we bring Peter back. I love that. Tell us what's going on in the world here, brother, and bring us up to speed. So thank you so much for today. My pleasure, Andy. All right. God bless you, everybody. Max out your life. Take care. This is The Ed Milet Show. We'll be right back.