Stage 4 Cancer: Fighting For Your Life w/ Jessie Lee Ward

25:03Yep. It's what you just said. So it's, I don't think I would feel as fulfilled as a person if I could look back on it right now and go, gosh, I really should have done more. Because I really feel like I've been all gas, no brakes for a long, long time. And I'm super proud of my accomplishments. And I look back on things like, wow, I'm really glad that I'm so thankful that happened. I'm grateful for that opportunity. Wow, thank goodness I said yes. But I was also a yes man to everything. So this is a cool new stage where I've been saying yes to only things I really want to say yes to, which I wish I had done sooner with something.

25:35because you know there's opportunities you've taken I'm sure where you go this is just not going to be it but I'm just going to do it because I feel like what if me what if maybe one because we hear that in personal development like what if the one person I did way too much stuff where it was that and just you know running myself ragged but it's really I'm not I'm really I wouldn't do anything differently no because all of this is playing out exactly how it's supposed to it's not my plan and if you really believe in a higher power you believe in God like we do no this is how it's supposed to be I'm supposed to be the example I'm supposed to be the big voice.

26:05I'm supposed to already have the following and the platform that I do so that I save so many more lives, so that I show so many more people a different way. It's really important. It is the way it is. But I wish in those moments, because I've won every award there is for what I've done. Anything I touch, it's like, oh, invest in Jessie Lee because it's going to turn gold. She doesn't, oh my gosh, she did this. I'm always the top performer. I told her when I met her, I said, if you were a stock I would buy you. Because she's going up. And also, So, by the way, you said something I want to finish on, though.

26:36So neither one of us are medical doctors, although you're a lot more like one than I am now because of all the medical care you've gone through. But you did say something that I want everyone to evaluate. You said you created this, meaning, and I think I know what you mean, all the stress, all the trauma, all the reliving the trauma, all the holding on to it, all the intensity pointed in the right direction makes a lot of awards and a lot of money. Intensity in the other direction can do harm. And I was actually asking, you came up last week. My mom asked me how you were doing because I've told my mom about you.

27:03And we were talking about my dad's cancer. My dad still, my dad wasn't 34, my gosh, but my dad died young, relatively speaking. And I said, Mom, do you think dad's trauma that he held on to from his upbringing and his stress, and my dad was this tremendous worrier, I inherited that from my dad. Most things with our kids are caught, not taught. I always say, I caught that from my dad, worrying and anxiety. And sometimes being around my dad, he's just like, like a sigh for no reason, you know. And I said, Mom, do you think that maybe that brought some of this on or turned those genes on sooner? The stress and the anxiety and the worry.

27:42And my mom said, absolutely, 100 % yes. And I'm wondering, is that what you meant by that you brought some of this on? Yeah, and I know I don't want to trigger any cancer patients or anything or survivors or anything who go, what? Like, I didn't create this because the cancer world is interesting. There's some people who think cancer is the worst thing that ever happened to them, and there's some people who think cancer is the best thing that happened to them. And I will tell you, I am in the second camp. And that freaks people out when I say that. She said, what? She said cancer is the best thing ever.

28:11Nothing was going to slow me down, Ed. Nothing. Nothing. You just said I did a coaching call from a hospital bed. Nothing was going to make me go, let's chill out a little bit. It had to happen. I needed to smell the roses a little. But yeah, what I mean when I say I created this is I was always running ragged. Sleep was not the priority. The goals were the priority. The changing other people's lives was the priority. The helping others and always extending an extra hand and not taking care of myself. Your own pleasure and enjoyment wasn't the priority. No, never. and I think even in this season of cancer and everything I am enjoying way more and I don't mean because I'm saying no to things it's part of it is that presence thing and I'm still competitive I really still don't know anybody who can outsell me right now even like good luck like I'm still a monster speaking all over the place crushing it it's yes to stuff I want no to things I don't want and so it goes back to all these high pressure things that I would put myself in and just you know yeah the toxic situations and again the no forgiveness my mom was not the only person I didn't forgive There's plenty of people that I did not forgive that I've had.

29:20Gosh, it's almost like I feel like I'm in an A. It's like one of the steps of AA, like you forgive people. I'm really having to work on me as a person. And so the changes in Jesse Lee as an actual human being have been profound since February. It's not they're not little changes there. I've always been a kind person. I'm even more patient and kind now, which is a different kind of kindness. Right. It's just, it'll completely, it just changes everything. Okay. So you, by the way, I just want to say something. I'm not a doctor either, but I think there's a power to saying I created this and so I can fix it.

29:57I think there's a power to that. And even if you're not in that camp and you've had a disease, I think we would all agree that worrying and anxiety and anger or frustration isn't healthy. So it certainly isn't helping things when we're that way.

30:12Well, I actually, I don't want to cut you off, but I just, I asked my doctor, in Germany two weeks ago because he was looking over my blood work and Germans are very direct. So he goes, disaster. I'm like, great. And he didn't mean it in a bad way. He just said, yeah. Don't worry. We can fix all of this, but it's a disaster. I said, okay. And I said, well, I have a question then. When you see other patients that their blood work is this bad, do they look like me? Yeah. Do they move like me? Do they? Because I'm not in pain and not in any of these things. He goes, absolutely not. He said, but you have the strongest mindset I've ever met.

30:52And a lot of this health stuff is mindset over all of it. Yes, I have to treat all of it. But you have a belief system that you're going to win this. And a lot of people don't. And I know, you know, Dr. Joe Dispenza way more than I do. Right. But even things like don't become your diagnosis. You hear, oh, well, with cancer, I'm supposed to be really tired. and I'm supposed to be really, you know, whatever, all these things. I'm supposed to look a certain way, walk a certain way. I've got to stop doing all these things. I just didn't look up, I just didn't get on Google. You know, I just didn't become a diagnosis.

31:26I said, oh, wait, I remember walking out of my colonoscopy. And I said, hey, you know, doc, by the way, what stage do you think this is? He goes, I mean, it's at least three because I can see it's in your lymph nodes too. Like everything's swollen down there. I said, oh, okay. Okay, stage three. Okay. Okay. No problem. And I just kind of walked out like, I don't even really know what that means. But I'm not going to let this ruin my good mood. I'm going to move forward. We're not going to jump to conclusions. I'm not going to get on WebMD and find out what it, you know. And it's not to say, like, sometimes I'll be like, well.

31:57What's coming my way? Whatever. And I told you earlier, I asked my doctor, hey, why are my lymph nodes a little swollen in my neck and my stomach feels like maybe? And he said, oh, I'm so excited. Your immune system's kicking on. This is your immune system working again. Like, oh, that's what this is. Okay. because Google said for sure I'm a goner. I love this new guy, by the way, that you're working with. And by the way, everyone, I want to just interject, and then we're going to talk about diagnosis. I'm going to talk some business too. But I want to say one thing to you.

32:27The attitude that you've brought to this, I really believe, is the differentiator. And she is, by the way, we've decided kind of through coaching that she is documenting her journey here. So if you don't follow her on social media, there's going to be an actual documentary, the whole entire thing, the journey of what she's going through. And I'm just so proud of the way that you've brought your mindset to this because, you know, so many people that are listening to this right now have a challenge that they're worried about. And if anything happens to everybody, this should be one big perspective builder for you because whatever you're going through right now, more than likely, it's not quite as significant as what Jesse Lee's going through right now.

33:04Maybe it just gives you perspective that, Hey, this disagreement I'm in with my spouse or this bill or I lost my job. Hey, this is a woman who was told you're not going to make it to Christmas. And I want to go to that part of it now to talk a little bit about the different bedside manners of the doctors. You don't need to name them, but I'm aware of them. And then what you've chosen to do for treatment, part of what you've chosen to do for your treatment, obviously you can afford, but I'd be curious as to your advice. And we're not, by the way, making what she's going to do is tell you the recommendation she's made for herself, which by the way, about 50 % of the people that you know are like, you're crazy to be doing it this way, right?

33:38And 50 % of the doctors are like, oh my gosh, you should have been in chemo immediately. So by no means are either one of us making a recommendation of what you should do, but this is Jessie Lee's story, her journey, her decisions, her experience that I want to share with you. So to the diagnosis point of the one guy that we both, you know, the Texas guy to a few other things, just take them through that a little bit. So just to give people perspective, I've been to eight oncologists. So this is not one oncologist, two oncologists, this is not whatever. Some are integrative oncologists, the rest are your traditional practitioners.

34:09So two integrative and then six are your normal, okay, you go to Texas oncology and whatever, okay? And so immediately, so here's the deal. I don't judge any doctors at all, period, end of discussion, because ultimately when you think about it, to become a doctor that is a well-known oncologist, and I was only going to well-known oncologist just because of resources and who I am, thank God. If you think about it, this person has gone to medical school for 12 years. Everything they know is traditional standard of care. This is what they're taught, period. You're not supposed to think outside the box.

34:48It's not the goal. The goal is standard of care. Chemotherapy and immunotherapy is really big business. And this is not opinion. You can just Google this if you want to or you can look into whatever. So I don't have, and then to become a well-known oncologist, that means you're practicing for decades. These are not young spring chickens in their 20s or something that I'm going to see. These are older gentlemen who have been practicing for decades. Just in your case, it happened to be gentlemen. Correct. And I'm sure there's women too. In my case, it was just gentlemen. And so for 30, 40 years, this is what you know.

35:24You know full Fox in a Boston. You know chemotherapy. This is, you know, that the average lifespan for a diagnosis like mine is two and a half years. That's it. And that's if you do the most intense. And you ask, is this for a cure or are you trying to keep me alive? Oh, I'm sorry. There's no cure. Every single last one of them. So I went to so many oncologists because, yeah, you know what? Maybe I was a little bit of a hope seeker where I just wanted somebody to say, maybe not. Maybe you're going to be okay. And instead of that, it was the constant, you know, do this, do that. It's the chemo, it's the chemo.

36:03And so after the, so surgery is step one and then chemo is step two. And so I would just ask each of them, I'd say, so if I do nothing, according to them, not nothing, but if I do nothing, no standard of care, what's the prognosis? and some doctors do not play God, which I really appreciate. There was one doctor in particular who, it was the most devastating moment of the entire journey. Wouldn't even look me in my eyes, by the way, faces down like this. And he goes, you'll be dead in six months, October, October. You're definitely not seeing Christmas. No. And then he said, but if you do the most intense versions of chemo, we're just going to blast you.

36:45We can probably get you two and a half years, then you'll be dead. This is quote unquote, thank God I got my best friend there. I'm FaceTiming my boyfriend at the time. I talked to you right after. And yes, I talked to you immediately after. And I said, and I black out actually, because I think your brain has a way of protecting you from trauma. My brain just knew, no. And I black out. Thank God best friend starts talking. And I just remember going, I'm not normal. That's the only thing I remember saying. And I said, and then I managed to say, so you're telling me that I can have two and a half years with no quality of life.

37:19or I can try to heal is really what my brain started hearing in that moment. And thank God I heard it like that because then it was an immediate decision to change. I was already starting to add stuff, but it was an immediate overhaul. It was a nutrition overhaul. It was a, I mean, I can start listing things that I do on a daily, weekly basis. And I will actually. I want to do that, but let me say one thing about it. I want to just interject. I want to be clear with what we're saying here too, just for responsibility. she's stage four, an incredibly aggressive type of cancer. So in her own situation, the chemo factor versus extending life by maybe 18 months, but no quality of life versus six months.

37:57So by no means is either one of us saying no chemotherapy if you get cancer. I'm not saying that, no. There's people listening to this right now that go, I did chemotherapy or radiation and I'm cancer free and I'm in remission. So we're not saying that. We're talking about her situation right here. But no doubt, even if you were to do that, some of the things you're doing nutritionally unquestionably are smart things to be doing. So what are they? And I do appreciate you saying that because it's really true. I am not trying to bash standard of care and I'm not trying to make anybody feel like traditional oncology is not the way.

38:26I'm not trying to make doctor feel like I'm anti-doctor. I'm certainly not. I'm under the care of doctors. And in that doctor's case, my gosh, to be able to look another human being in the eye and go, you're going to be dead. Now to say you're going to be dead in six months is probably crass the way that he said it. But that's difficult news for these people to have to deliver to people as well. And he does it all day, probably 12 people a day or something. So, you know, he's caring. So I'm super empathetic towards his job and everything. And all of the oncologists have said similar things. You know, you got to start chemo now, now, now, now.

38:54But I would like people to also know it's not as rushed as they make it seem for most people. Okay? So it gets really scary if we're being honest. It seems like, you know, this is a really fast-growing cancer. And I would say, how do you know? Well, we don't know, but hold on. I just want more information, right? But please just do what's right for you. And one of the biggest things is, you know, just follow, like, please follow your intuition, follow your guidance. Use the word discernment earlier. And I wanted to say, that's really the right word. You will, if you pray for discernment, you will get it.

39:25You have to learn to listen to yourself during all of this. And that's, that's what I've gotten out of this. During everything you do. Everything. Yeah. Yeah. So what are you doing? What are you doing different with your nutrition? So. And what are you doing for your treatment? Let's just, we, we are not telling your true story if we don't tell them actually what you're doing. They're going to follow you on this journey. So tell them what's up. Yeah, it's pretty intense. So I went from pretty much carnivore to immediately vegan. So all the juicing. I bought the best juicer ever. I did all the research on that.

39:54And when I say juicing, I'm not saying like, I make a delicious green juice in the morning. I'm talking eight to 12 juices a day. So I'm almost on the hour. I'm just overdosing my body in nutrition, which is making my hair grow really long and shiny. So it's, you know, like there's benefits to this. But it's quite the shift, right? I feel like I'm starting a greenhouse in my refrigerator. But that's been unbelievable. I'm no longer doing vegan because my doctor that I'm under care now with really loves keto. And that is also because the cancer - Well, that's completely different. Completely different.

40:30The cancer that decided to reside in my body and grow through blood tests is the only reason we know this. And I don't know what the blood test is off the top of my head, but the cancer that is living in me or was, I don't know, maybe it's gone, is feeding off of sugars. And it was proven through a blood test. He said some cancers are growing on proteins. Some cancers are growing on carbohydrates and sugars. Some cancers are growing, you know, whatever. I said, oh, okay. And he said, don't even touch it. Don't touch carbohydrates. You have to be keto. He started talking about the oils in my body, my mitochondria health and all this stuff.

41:01So immediate nutrition shift. Still juicing, but now it's all these green juices. so they're not as yummy as like the carrot and apple and the delicious whatever. But I don't care at this, you know, whatever. That's the easiest thing. The juice I've got pretty much down to a science. But everyday hyperbaric chamber, I actually have one in my house, thank God. I also have a biocharger in my house, which you guys can check out. It's a crazy energy shifting machine, which is super cool. I use grounding mats as well constantly because I do live in a penthouse, so I'm not on the ground with my feet in the ground and you're on the beach.

41:30You can get in the beach and get yourself grounded. I'm earthing and grounding all the time. And grounded, which is so important for your health in general. I do ozone at least four times a week, which they actually take your blood out and they're spinning it and they're cleaning it and then putting it back in. I also do a Hockett ozone, which is basically this chamber where your entire body's inside. You're getting ozone. You're getting infrared. You're also getting hypothermia. So you're getting overheated as well. All in this chamber where just your head is out and it's so cool and gross. You see all these toxins come out of you every single time.

42:05Only that. It's really cool. I do, this one's really important, very high dose vitamin C three times a week. And that's what's been killing off a lot of the stuff. I also have a lot of other infusions as well that I've been doing in Germany. I do red light therapy, the bed. I get in a bed at least five times a week, if not every day. Gosh. Okay, what else? I know I'm missing things. There's more. And wait, there's more now. I do cold plunges now, which I actually really enjoy a lot. So what are these things? So, by the way, this is her journey, her way of care for her with a six-month diagnosis, everybody.

42:41What of these things would you do when the cancer's gone? In other words, is some of it just for the cancer or once the cancer's gone or had you never had cancer based on what you've learned, some of those protocols I assume you still would be – I bet you'd still be doing red light. You'd still be doing cold plunge. Would you be doing hyperbaric? Would you still be doing most of those things? There's some things I would do for sure. One I didn't mention and it's my favorite and it's going to be so weird. So I started doing coffee enemas about three months ago. And I was told years ago to do these.

43:09And I thought, that is the weirdest thing ever. I'm not doing that. No way. And I even bought the, and it was sitting in, I think I threw it away six months ago or something. The irony. The first time I did one, I slept like, I mean, a teenager. Do I need to do it? Really? And you might have parasites, so it might be weird. Why would you say I have them? You seem kind of buggy. No, I'm kidding. Thank you very much. No, I'm kidding. Thank you. She looked right at me like, you probably have parasites. Thank you. You do that now? You look at me like, parasite. I look like I have parasites. You don't actually look like you have parasites.

43:43But I get like the most, it's instant mental clarity. Okay. Almost like, wow, this is crazy. Instantly. Okay. And digestion takes the most energy out of everything that you do when you're cleaning the entire lower third out of your colon. And then after that I go do, I actually have at my house an Ozone Simply O2 makes an ozone machine for your home. So I have an oxygen tank and everything. I do rectal ozone after it as well. Jeez. So there's a lot. There's a lot. There's a lot going on. But I would never change that. I would never stop red light. It's amazing. The benefits are just incredible.

44:16And I really believe in this ozone stuff in your blood. This stuff is crazy. I really think that. Hearing more and more and more about it. Yeah. I'm not willing or ready to stake my claim on it because I'm really sort of watching through you and some other people that I know. Yeah. All right. So someone's listening to this. They've cried their eyes out. They are now looking at their own life differently. They've got a perspective. They've said, man, maybe I need to have forgiveness for this person. Maybe I need to get going and hurry up and win. Maybe I need to start live like I'm dying, to quote the Tim McGraw thing that we've talked about.

44:48What would you say to somebody? They say, hey, listen, if someone came up to you right now at Starbucks and said, hey, I heard you on the Ed Milet show and he didn't ask you this or I'm just curious, what would you say to somebody who says, what is the biggest thing you would impart upon to another person about what you've taken from this that we haven't shared yet? In other words, this is my thing I've got from this that I need people to know. What would you say? I don't care who you are. I need you to know that you need to do what's best for you and I mean that in a lot of different ways I was a people pleaser For sure like I wanted everybody to like me I think because I wasn't liked very much when I was younger so If you were nice to me and then mean to me was okay, I'd still be nice to you um And I think too many of us are living for other people Instead of living for ourselves and I just wish more people would chase that dream that they really care about, would take those risks that matter a lot to them, would love the person that they know they're supposed to be in love with, or take the big scary chance that everybody has told them just doesn't make any sense at all, and just live their life.

46:03Because I look at people all the time, and I coach people all the time, and I just go, my God, you're not happy. Who are you living for? Because when you realize that every day is not guaranteed you're not worried so much anymore about offending people because of your opinions or your truth you start realizing that your authentic self is all that you really need to be there's so much good going on in the world and we we as humans i think spend so much time effort and energy on things that just don't matter to us at all trying to please people we don't even like yeah and for what at what cost so that's where i wanted to ask you next is stay right on there

46:47So we've talked about what does matter and you just covered one thing that doesn't matter what else doesn't matter in other words Pleasing other people and other people's opinions all of that man. What an absolute beautiful truth What other things you're faced with this, right? You have this moment in your life and everyone at some point Will be faced with something like this It may be at 104 years old and you're an old woman laying in your bed someday or you're 34 years old in the prime of your life and being healthy. But at some point you're going to be faced with this is going, my body will eventually possibly end.

47:20What doesn't matter? What else doesn't matter? Because Matthew McConaughey said on the show, sometimes you got to just make a list of the things you don't want in your life to get clear on what you do want. So we know these opinions of other people. By the way, you're just actually, it's something we've always said, but you're living it now. You're like, trust me, it totally doesn't matter. What else doesn't matter? I know that's a hard question. But what else doesn't matter? I'm curious. Okay, honestly, most stuff does not matter. Most stuff just does not matter. And I wish more people would look at their life and realize that.

47:51The little stuff that drives you crazy, I've said it. Everything just gets clearer when you have something like this happen. So I used to say, if it's not going to matter in five years, don't give it five minutes. Would you please live that? Yeah. People are so freaked out about the dumbest little things. and I just know you're not going to care that there was traffic in L.A. because there's always traffic in L.A. 20 minutes from now. So why are you having this huge blow-up fight? The arguments you're having with your partner, why? The little things about your kids, why? The stuff that drives you nuts.

48:24None of this stuff really matters. The little tiny sacrifices. I think back on when I was starting my business, I lived first in a basement and then above a garage in a roof that's like this. and so you couldn't sit up in bed because you had to roll out of bed. It was one of those situations. And I'm like, I remember thinking, God, why am I living here? I need to have something more. Like, you know, and it pushed me. But I also think back, I go, why did I actually care? Yeah. Why did that matter to me? Why did the, you know what doesn't matter? Fancy clothes don't matter. Fancy things don't matter unless it brings you joy.

48:58The only things in life that actually matter are the stuff that makes you smile. Period. That's it. Do you love it? Are you happy? Are the people you're spending time around the ones that you want to? Are the activities you're doing in it, is it the hobby you like? Or do you just do it because? No more just doing stuff because. Because that crap doesn't matter. You start looking at life like this moment's precious, this moment's precious, this one's precious. And you chase those instead of things, instead of other people's opinions, instead of any of that stuff. So good. And by the way, for people like you and I, winning is fun.

49:30Yes. Winning, achieving, competing, being number one, seeing what you're capable of. Trust me when I tell you. She's not talking about just sit around and enjoy the moment. She's saying do things you enjoy. If you're a winner, if you're a competitor, go freaking win and compete because you all know we love that stuff. I like winning more than I like sitting on the beach. I just flat out do. You do. And so do you. I know I do. I've seen you in pickleball too. He's competitive in everything. Well, and by the way, so is she, but you know what I'm talking about? She's got this diagnosis. She's still speaking my head.

50:04She goes, I just freaking slayed it. Best talk I've ever given. And she lights up when she talks about that. So, but this is so profound what you've said. I mean, I just, I just think that sometimes I think when you get threatened with your life, maybe not being here, you accumulate the wisdom you would have gotten at the end of your life anyway. And I think that's one of the, I think it's one of the blessings that I've seen in you. Now, she's also, by the way, kicked major tail in a bunch of different businesses, right? And there's this side to her that I love that's this Boss Lee side. And I want her to show up here a little bit too because there's these sides.

50:41There's this reflective, kind, gentle, forgiving, wise, perspective-having, patient woman that I really love. But there's this other thing, this other being who's like, I'm going to stomp you. We're going to win. Get off your butt. Let's go. And you've pushed people in their lives like you've pushed you. What do you think? Now, don't be humble. There's no reason for you to be humble now, right? Okay. So what has made you, you? So I remember the first time I spoke, you spoke before me. I think maybe before or after me. We crossed each other backstage. And I know when I meet someone that's the it.

51:20Like everyone has the it, by the way, but I know when someone's released it in themselves. So I want to be very clear. Everybody's special. Everybody has the it. But I know when I've met a human being who's released theirs. And I also know when I've met somebody who is still suppressing theirs. And the ones who have released it, boy, that's really good. Those who have released it, I magnetize too. I'm just like, whoa. And I knew it immediately. Then the second time, like there's, she's released it. Her version of her releasing it. So you have that thing. You've unlocked yours. What is it that made you so much more successful than basically everybody else in the multiple businesses you've done?

51:58Now looking back on it, no reason to be humble. We've bared our soul about some really difficult things today. So tell the truth about that. Yeah. I think I have this fight in me that is ingrained in me from such a young age that I'm just willing to do whatever it takes. I will not hurt people. That's about where I cross the line. I will not do anything to hurt people. Aside from that, I will dominate you. I really will. It's just, it's not a joke. And I'll go in, I'll definitely go deep in it. I will never forget when we first talked about the diagnosis. And I said to you on a coaching call, I said, Ed, I think I need to put Boss Lee to rest.

52:34I think I need to just kind of chill a little bit and go more into just quiet time and whatever. And I remember seeing your face. And you didn't say anything. You went, okay. And I went, maybe that's not. And then I realized, no, Bossley is the reason I have all of this stuff. And I don't mean things. I mean the accomplishments, the accolades, the wealth. Because she is an aggressor. She doesn't let people stomp all over her. How am I going to let cancer come in and stomp all over me? Oh, no. Actually, Bossley needs to show up more than ever. And so the difference with me, I think, is that when everything crazy happened, and I'm not going to go into a whole long childhood whatever, but people want success like ours.

53:15And I love how open you've been about things with your dad and your childhood more and more over the last few years because the way I describe it is I understand you want our success. But you do not want what we've gone through. If you want all this success, you've got to trade all of this bad stuff and you're not willing to trust me. So when I'm nine and I send my dad to jail and I'm raised in a crazy domestic violence situation my whole life, I have to get raised by my grandparents because there's no one there. I become the leader of the household then. Physical violence and craziness like you can't even imagine.

53:46We don't have enough food. All of this just turmoil, chaos, whatever. I became the leader. And so when people go, you know, in sales as an example, I have never understood why people get so upset about the word no. This one shocks me. And maybe that's why I went to eight oncologists. Come on. Come on. It's got to be one. Because for me, the first thing somebody tells me is never what I'm going to accept. I don't accept that for me or for my life. So when someone's like, oh, that prospect told me no. I go, well, did your parents tell you yes about everything when you were growing up? Because I was told no always.

54:24And I just kept selling myself over and over and over again to try to get something. Even if it's just, can I stay a little later? No. No. No. You guys would ask for ice cream three times and you'd get a yes. I was always no. So no doesn't hurt me. That turned me into this. So then if I'm getting rejected, fine. And also you get scrappy. I'm really scrappy from growing up without resources. So I will find a way. You tell me it's impossible. I don't think so. There's a way. I'm super big on visualizing. You talked about touching your dreams. I've been the same way forever. I'll sit in the car. I'll go to the car dealership when I can't afford it before I couldn't afford it.

55:00I'd go I'd go look at the private jets and see whatever. I'd look at the big houses. I found our first photo I got to show you. You have no idea. I met you at 10X was the first time I actually met you. Whoa, way back. I had bright blue hair. It's craziness, right? So that was me. I do remember that. You were heavier then. Yeah, and I had bright blue hair. I remember that. By the way, I've met millions of people, so I often don't remember. I remember that. I paid to be in that VIP section when I really maybe didn't, maybe shouldn't have. And I couldn't. And there were these two huge men like seven feet tall that you got the photo with them.

55:35And then Grant like rushed you off. And so we have like a side photo, but it's our first photo we ever took. And it's like you were standing there when I was taking the picture. Sorry, go ahead. Exactly. But I would always just insert myself where other people wouldn't because people would tell me no. People would say it's impossible. People would say you can't have this. You can't do that. Women don't do this. Oh, this is kind of a men's world. I learned investments and negotiation and all this stuff because people told me I wasn't supposed to. They said, oh, you're just supposed to be this network marketer.

56:03I said, network marketers fail at everything because they're trying to learn how to recruit a bunch of people and then forget about them. I'm going to treat this like a business. And if I learn business skills, unlike most people that do things like this, no one's going to be able to touch me. So it's always been, where's the competitive edge? Learn. And then I'll watch somebody maybe in the business space. That's why I went to 10X. There were no networkers there, right? I went to 10X because I said, I need to learn more about businesses so I can see what they're doing in their traditional business so I can figure out how to implement that in this kind of business before I do other businesses.

56:35Because if I do that, then I'm not the first one to do it. I'm the first one to do it the best. The best, yeah. By the way, I'm watching you. This is you. So it's interesting. The transition. By the way, you can just feel the energy a little bit. By the way, the topic's different, but the energy's different. And Boss Lee does need to show up to fight this fight as well, right? So there's got to be both. I want to tell you one thing. I want to say something about you. I'm going to brag about you, but I want everybody to see themselves in this. When I went to work at the group home, I went to work at an orphanage.

57:03You know, that was my career. And when I went there, I've often said that I connected with these boys because anybody who's gone through any abuse or dysfunction in their childhood, we have different eyes. We do. Our eyes are just a little bit different. When you look into the eyes of a child who's suffered, they just want to be loved and you can feel it. And I have those eyes in my form of it. You have it in yours, no matter what you've gone through. What I didn't know when I worked there is that they also have different hearts. They have different hearts because one of the ways we get our love is by achieving.

57:35But we do become scrappier. We are tougher. We are more relentless. We do take more no's. We will get after you to win because we want to change how we feel so badly. We want to change how we feel so badly. And even I see your face change as I say that. And so if you've gone through any dysfunction in your life, when we meet each other, we kind of connect in a way like I don't connect as well with people who've had easy lives. I wish I did. I wish I did. But I often find myself gravitated towards people who have had tragedy or difficulty or abuse or neglect in their life. And I used to think it's because we had the same eyes.

58:16It's not why. It's because we have the same hearts. Our hearts are the same. I'm getting goosebumps. I've never said this out loud until you were just speaking. And I'm like, that's what I see in her. That's what I see in all of my great friends. It's not their eyes. It's their freaking hearts that are different because of what we've had to go through. And that's why I love you. And if you're listening to this, everybody, if you've had that, that's what you share in common with us. You have to unleash it, but it's a gift. It's a gift because your heart is just different. You're just, it's the heart literally as corny as it sounds.

58:50It's the freaking heart of a champion. It's somebody who wants to be somebody so bad and change how they feel so much that they're willing to do anything. And I just realized as you were talking, I've spent most of my life trying to change how I feel. Do you relate to that? I'm like nodding like my head's going to fall off over here. It's yes. The first time we really had a hard talk conversation, I said, I just I just want to feel proud. This is what I told you. I'm like, I've had all this success and it's like, when is it going to be enough? When am I going to sit there and go, because I just want to feel, you know, you're always chasing.

59:27Yeah. And what you've learned, I think through this, my sweet friend, my brilliant friend, my powerful friend is what you're learning through this is maybe I can keep this drive in this heart and actually still simultaneously give myself the gift of feeling these things. I don't have to wait because when time is potentially cut short, which it's not going to be in your case, but it's threatened to be cut short. You go, yeah, enough of that crap. I'm going to feel these things now. And I'm still going to be this boss where I kick ass. I mean, I considered canceling. I considered stopping all my businesses pretty much.

1:00:00I considered stopping my coaching. I considered all of these things. And then I had this and I went, no, I get so much energy when I do that because I'm watching their faces. I feel I feel their hearts. I see that I'm changing them in that moment. I get off the I can't do those calls too late in the day because if I do it too late in the day, I'm like, let's go. And it's so healing and it's so cathartic. And I do feel proud in those moments when I know that I'm shifting people's lives. And so that becomes really important to me. And I really think if more people would operate from that, that it's truly heart centered.

1:00:38It's you don't have to be this crazy shark at the top. You can be a good person. I mean, I definitely identify as a shark in ways, but maybe not like a baby shark. I mean, I would just, you just recognize it in people and you can really feel that. That's a real thing. I feel it in you. I think this hour, by the way, has been the biggest difference you've ever made in your life. And you've made the difference in millions of people's lives. I rarely cry. You made me cry. And I feel like usually when I do the show, I'm like, oh, this is going to be so good for everybody else. And then there's been moments where I'm like, oh, this is really good for me.

1:01:20And you're really good for me. And I love you very much. I'm super proud of you. And thank you for having the courage, because this is a tough lady who's one, to say, all right, I'm going to peel it back and I'm going to tell the world what's going on with me. That in and of itself took amazing courage. and the fact that you're kind of documenting this journey, you're going to be the inspiration for millions of people in different areas of their lives. And you were born for this. Everything that's happened to you in your life has prepared you for right now, 100%. And if you're listening to this, everything that's happened in your life has prepared you for right now, if you'll unlock it, release that heart that we've talked about today.

1:02:03Okay. Thank you. Go to bosslee.com. Go to I'm Boss Lee on YouTube. What's the Instagram? I'm Boss Lee. I'm Boss Lee. Follow her journey. Her podcast is The People's Mentor as well. While you're doing that, you're just crazy not to get the power of one more. You're absolutely crazy not to have your email submitted at edmylett.com so that you can get early access to shows like this today. Can I just say, I know I don't need to pitch you because everybody that lives listening to this follows you, but you have changed my life in more ways than you realize. you are I wish more people got to know you how I get to know how I've gotten to know you thank you you are such a pure soul and I try to pour as much love into you as I do because I there is so much greatness in you and I know you know you're great but you're better than anybody that just listens to the show or watches you online or walks past you behind stage could ever imagine and our relationship that has evolved over this this last half year especially like I truly treasure you as a friend, as a person, as a coach, as a mentor.

1:03:09And you're doing more work in this world than you realize. And I want to give you your flowers too while you're still here. Because you're amazing. Means the world coming from you. Thank you. That means the world coming from you. You know, guys, every show I say share this, I don't think I probably have to ask you to this week, but like this message of this hour, people need to experience. They just do. And don't keep it to you. Please share it with other people. God bless you all. Max out. This is The Ed Milad Show.