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The Exchange | Long-form interviews from the New Statesman

by New Statesman · English

Oli Dugmore and New Statesman journalists confront the most influential voices of our time in extended one-on-one interviews. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

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For how long has Israel deceived the US?

The episode argues that America’s and Israel’s current Middle East conflicts trace back to the 1982 Israeli invasion of Lebanon and the 1984 murder of Malcolm Kerr at the American University of…

11 Nov 2026 · 46m · 14 chapters

The King, slavery & reparations

A bonus episode of The Exchange arguing that Britain’s royal family and monarchy were deeply involved in transatlantic slavery, and that current royal “sorrow” without apology is inadequate as…

6 Nov 2026 · 31m · 13 chapters

This is how Russian spies kill on British soil

Marina Litvinenko discusses her memoir Over Your Shoulder: A Life in Fragments and the lead-up to, aftermath of, and meaning of Alexander Litvinenko’s 2006 polonium poisoning and death, including her…

4 Nov 2026 · 1h · 19 chapters

The underground heroes fighting MAGA within the American government

Michael Lewis discusses his new book Over Your Shoulder: Blockers, about Elon Musk’s “Department of Government Efficiency” (DOGE) and the Trump administration’s attempt to dismantle parts of the U.S.

28 Oct 2026 · 55m · 21 chapters

Big tech was built on the porn industry

The episode argues that the porn industry helped build the modern internet by pioneering data-driven attention, affiliate funnels, and personal branding—so porn is framed as “the blueprint for the…

21 Oct 2026 · 1h 2m · 20 chapters

We should call this what it is: fascism

Naomi Klein and Astra Taylor argue that “end times fascism” is already underway: a global alliance of right-wing authoritarianism, religious end-times politics, tech “evangelism,” and rising…

14 Oct 2026 · 59m · 11 chapters

Is it insane to drill the Jackdaw gas field?

Extreme weather (including El Niño) and climate breakdown could disrupt global food supplies, especially via “multiple breadbasket failures,” loss of ecosystem carbon sinks, and a fragile,…

7 Oct 2026 · 1h 2m · 21 chapters

A wave of childlessness is sweeping the whole world

Global decline in births/childlessness, framed as a mix of economic pressures, relationship “coupling” gaps, delayed timing, and social norms; discusses what governments can (and can’t) do, and why…

30 Sep 2026 · 43m · 16 chapters

Owen Jones: Hubris haunts the West

Owen Jones argues the “West” is in a chaotic decline driven by Western elite triumphalism after the USSR’s collapse, neoliberal economics that enrich elites, repeated military disasters, and moral…

23 Sep 2026 · 1h 3m · 15 chapters

How to understand China: through its food

The episode is an interview about Chinese food history and culture, using Fuchsia Dunlop’s experiences to explain why Chinese cuisine is so diverse, how it’s changing in China and the UK, and how to…

9 Sep 2026 · 46m · 14 chapters

Life as a leftist has been a complete failure

Alexi Sale discusses why “life as a leftist” became a long, disillusioning struggle, and how decades of street protest (from Vietnam-era activism to Gaza marches) shaped his Marxist identity.

2 Sep 2026 · 34m · 12 chapters

Is Trump a Russian asset?

Whether Donald Trump is a Russian asset, using Luke Harding’s reporting on Russian state control, disinformation, and the war in Ukraine.

19 Aug 2026 · 57m · 20 chapters

Is Britain a liberal country?

Whether Britain is truly a liberal country, and whether “liberalism” has been misdefined or failed—especially amid populism, illiberal strongmen, and a degraded information/attention environment from…

12 Aug 2026 · 42m · 10 chapters

The man who sold the World Cup

The episode examines Gianni Infantino’s changing grip on FIFA and the World Cup, focusing on allegations of corruption, political favoritism, and a recent plan to commercialize FIFA by selling a…

5 Aug 2026 · 34m · 14 chapters

What the hell is going on on the British right?

Why the British right is fragmenting and what that means for Labour’s prospects, focusing on Reform UK’s rise and splintering (Restore Britain), and on Conservative decline after repeated…

29 Jul 2026 · 47m · 18 chapters

How will history remember Keir Starmer?

A retrospective on Keir Starmer’s time as UK Prime Minister—how history may remember him, why his premiership feels “forgettable,” and what the defining legacy might be (especially Gaza), contrasted…

22 Jul 2026 · 50m · 18 chapters

Gary Stevenson is lobbying Andy Burnham

Gary Stevenson argues Britain should implement wealth taxes (e.g., a floor around 2% on wealth above £10m/£100m) to stop accelerating wealth inequality, which he claims is driving collapsing living…

15 Jul 2026 · 41m · 18 chapters

Jeffrey Epstein was not the only monster

The podcast discusses Virginia Roberts-Gefray’s memoir Nobody’s Girl and the broader pattern of sexual abuse and trafficking connected to Jeffrey Epstein, Ghislaine Maxwell, and Prince Andrew (who…

8 Jul 2026 · 48m · 21 chapters

"Trump wouldn't know Burnham if he slapped him"

Interview with Mehdi Hassan on how US politics/media view UK leadership changes (Keir Starmer’s exit and Andy Burnham’s likely Labour leadership), why Britain is “a punching bag” for the US, and how…

3 Jul 2026 · 32m · 10 chapters

Jonathan Haidt supports a social media ban for teenagers. I don't.

Jonathan Haidt argues that teen mental health worsened globally after smartphones/social media spread around 2012, and supports government regulation—especially age limits and phone/social-media…

1 Jul 2026 · 1h 3m · 25 chapters

7 prime ministers in 10 years

British political instability since the 2016 Brexit referendum, framed as “seven prime ministers in 10 years.” The discussion links Brexit to leadership churn, declining gravitas in resignations,…

23 Jun 2026 · 57m · 21 chapters

Has Britain lost its childhood?

Frank Cottrell Boyce argues Britain has “lost its childhood” due to austerity, COVID, and a wider collapse of community supports.

17 Jun 2026 · 53m · 18 chapters

Mariana Mazzucato wants economists to rethink everything

Mariana Mazzucato argues economists and policymakers should rethink “the common good” as an objective-oriented goal, not a vague “public goods” correction.

10 Jun 2026 · 58m · 19 chapters

No Mr Blair, AI will not save us | Karen Hao

Karen Hao argues AI companies (especially OpenAI) function like “new forms of empire,” extracting data and physical resources while using vague “AGI” narratives as a civilizing mission.

3 Jun 2026 · 51m · 15 chapters