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Podcast Notes: The Game with Alex Hormozi - Episode 23: Continuity Offer. Discount + One Time Fee
Episode Overview
- Title: Continuity Offer. Discount + One Time Fee
- Host: Alex Hormozi
- Key Topics: Customer acquisition, monetization strategies, reducing churn, and effective sales tactics.
Key Concepts
- Continuity Offer Structure
- Involves a discount for the first term of service combined with a one-time fee.
- Attracts customers while offsetting acquisition costs through upfront fees.
- Example Structure
- Discounted Rate: Charge a significant discount for the initial service.
- One-Time Fee: Introduce a made-up fee that customers pay upfront, which can be used to incentivize trainers or sales staff.
- Result: Customers may initially perceive the discount, but end up paying substantial fees by the end of their first billing cycle.
- Churn Reduction
- Higher one-time fees correlate with lower customer churn rates.
- Customers who invest more upfront are less likely to leave, as demonstrated by case studies (e.g., sign-up fees linked to retention rates).
Detailed Breakdown Introduction to a Real-World Example
- Context: Alex shares an encounter with a personal training manager who sought to utilize unused gym space to sell personal training services.
- Key Insight: Offer structures that combine discounts with fees can be effective in attracting customers and generating revenue.
Mechanics of the Offer
- Discount + Fee Strategy:
- Customers are drawn in by the low upfront cost but pay hidden fees that significantly increase initial revenue.
- Flexibility in structuring offers depending on product/service and sales strategies.
Importance of Customer Investment
- Customers who pay a significant upfront fee tend to remain committed to the service:
- E.g., a weight loss coach charging a high upfront fee results in longer client retention versus typical models.
Guidelines for Implementing a One-Time Fee
- Pick a Fee Name: Create a name that resonates with the service.
- Select a Fee Price: Determine a price that reflects the value and investment required.
- Articulate the Reason: Clearly explain the purpose of the fee to the customer.
- Start Charging: Implement the fee strategically, offering discounts when necessary to sweeten the deal.
Summary Points
- Flexibility: The discount plus one-time fee structure can be applied across various business models.
- Marketing Efficiency: The initial discount attracts interest, while the one-time fees offset marketing and sales costs.
- Revenue Streams: Creating and implementing fees can lead to additional revenue and can be beneficial even if not used directly.
- Sales Strategy: Allowing salespeople to adjust fees can help close deals with hesitant customers.
Conclusion In summary, Alex Hormozi emphasizes the strategic use of continuity offers that combine discounts with one-time fees to enhance customer acquisition and retention. Through careful structuring and clear communication, businesses can create monetization models that not only attract customers but also encourage long-term commitment, ultimately increasing their lifetime value.
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Transcript
Automatic transcript. May contain errors.0:00Continuity offer. Discount plus one-time fee. Spring 2015, I was walking out the front door of my library location. The sun baked the black asphalt of the empty parking lot. It was midday before the afternoon rush would begin in a few hours. Before I could take a step towards my car, a man quickly approached me, almost out of nowhere. Hey, you the owner? I was a bit startled. I said, uh, yeah. Before I could ask what he wanted, he plowed right into his pitch. My name's Owen. I'm a personal training manager of a gym that just went under across town. I've got a group of trainers that just want to sell personal training packages.
0:32We do about$100 ,000 a month in personal training sales. We just need a facility to work out of. We don't really offer personal training here, I said, half lying because I didn't like the guy's vibe. He just didn't seem trustworthy. I started to turn my side towards him to show I wasn't interested and began to make my way towards my car. He realized he needed to change his approach. I promise we're a self-sufficient team. I can see through the window. You guys have a lot of dead space. Even when your sessions are going on, we can just help you monetize that area. It'll cost you nothing. It's just upside.
0:59It'll cost me time and attention, I countered. And most importantly, it'll cost me the goodwill I've accrued with my customer base. No, no, no, no. We won't even talk to your customers if you don't want us to. We'll just go get our own leads and sell them. We just ask that you give them a discounted month up front. And we'll charge an enrollment fee, which I just give to my guys as commission for the sale. So whatever they can close for the fee is theirs. That's how we do it. It'll cost you nothing. Hmm. I'll think it over. After thinking it over, I decided I didn't want a former group of trainers and salespeople that I hadn't vetted walking around my gym representing my company.
1:27But I did notice the offer structure represented. a discount plus a fee. He clearly seen success with that, that much I believed. And this was the first I'd heard of this monetization structure. It both attracted customers with a discount and liquidated commissions and acquisition costs through a fee. Here's how it works. Description. You charge a discounted rate for your first term or period of service. Then you charge one or more additional fees that you just made up. Just like the free with fee structure. If you can waive some and charge others, waive them all or charge them all. It gives you a lot of offer flexibility depending on the strength of the salesperson.
2:03This offer will tend to surprise fewer people since they already came expecting to pay something, which is one of the key benefits of using discounts over free for this particular structure. Examples. Any recurring service. Offer 95 % off the first month. $1 ,900 off the first month. First month for$100. monetization. They come in for the first month for a hundred bucks, but they still get charged a$1 ,900 setup fee. All in all, they get charged$2 ,000 and go straight into recurring. From a monetization perspective, they just got charged two grand for their first month and each month thereafter.
2:35To be clear, you still have to explain this and sell this, but I'm saying that's how the offer works. Any defined in-service or program. Offer, 88 % off first month, selling a 12-week program for$3 ,000. Monetization. You'll say it costs$1 ,000 a month for three months, but you get 88 % off your first month, which would be$120 in total. But then we have$1 ,000 setup fee. They end up paying$1 ,120 for the first month and then continuing their next two payments at$1 ,000 each. Same idea. You just separate the recurring from the upfront, and then it allows you to be more flexible with your advertising.
3:08Details. To be clear, always obey the advertising rules within your area and of your time period. Details. The higher the one-time start-up fee, the lower the churn. The higher the barrier to entry, so too becomes the higher the barrier to exit. John told me that when his standing empire had a$100 sign-up fee for the$10 a month membership, the churn on those clients was next to nothing, whereas the clients who paid$19 down in the$19 a month churned at a higher rate. This means you can use made-up fees we've been talking about to actively decrease your churn and increase the investment of your prospects.
3:39This helps them and you in the long run. Everyone wins. When people pay, they pay attention. This is especially important for services where you require something to be done by the customer, getting you information, filling out forms, showing up at certain times, making selections, changing behavior, et cetera. If you need someone to do something in order to be successful, then more times than not, it makes sense to charge a one-time setup fee or startup fee to get them invested in the long run. You can even have a massive disparity between setup and recurring. A good friend of mine who runs a multi-million dollar online weight loss coaching business, charges$5 ,000 to start and then only$267 a month thereafter.
4:13His average client lifespan is more than two years. Compare that with the normal average fitness client who stays four months. This large upfront sum gets the client invested in the process and makes leaving almost insane. And you guessed it, if they leave and want to come back, then they have to pay it again. So this just keeps people committed, especially when they have to do part of the work to achieve the result that you sold them, whatever that may be. Note, be clear about what the reason for the one-time fee is, even though it might be made up. This should not be a fee taken lightly. It's also something that you should bring up with any and every customer.
4:46You're doing the work, so you might as well let them know exactly what you're going to be doing for them. So here are four steps to creating your one-time fee. Number one, pick your fee name. Number two, pick your fee price. Number three, pick your reason why. Number four, start charging it, discounting it, or waiving it. Summary points. This play is incredibly flexible. You can use it on top of any business. The big discount can attract lots of interest. These fees will help you offset the acquisition costs of marketing and sales. It works very well with recurring or defined end programs. And in general, the larger the one-time fee up front, the higher the stick rate.
5:18Not only does this help you make money at the front end, it can dramatically enhance the lifetime value of the customer. These fees are also really good to think through, even if you don't plan on using this monetization structure, as they can provide additional revenue streams for your business. There are lots of things that you're doing as a business owner, you might as well get credit for it. Waiving made-up fees can also help you generate more goodwill than just signing someone up directly. You can also leave these fees to discretion to the salesperson to help them, quote, sweeten the deal for someone on the edge.
5:44Unlimited uses here.
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