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25:35He's like writing a finance investing book. And then he's doing, I'm like, how is this guy doing so many things in it? It just, we just accept it. It just makes sense. Right. So Angelina Jolie is the same, you know, she's adopting, she's directing, she's at the UN, she's, I can't even keep track. So that's really manifesting generators for you. So for them, it's similar to generators where they have to do things that excite them, but they have to also understand that when something stops exciting them, they can't kind of cling on to it. And they have to listen to all the different calls of the things that are passionate instead of trying to think about how they all will blend together because they will, if you follow them.

26:14So those are often the people that are very high energy, very multidirectional. And sometimes they feel also the need to kind of like tone it down to be understood by other people, or they feel like other people can't keep up with them. So this is just where like us understanding each other's different paces just means that no one has to change. We just let everyone be what they are, you know? And so it brings so much acceptance as well, knowing what types different people are, what you were saying about like different people on teams and stuff, like everyone just lets everyone run their path.

26:45And then you have projectors and I'm a projector. Projectors are people who actually mostly get their energy from other people. So from the manifestors, the manifesting generators and the generators and projectors are really not the people who are like, we're going to do this, this, and this. Now I'm going to go do it. They're the people that are like, actually, if you want to go from A to B, here's like a little tweak or a little different, more efficient way of getting there, or let me try and explain it to you better or this perspective or whatever it is. And so they always specialize in seeing something to help the people get to where they want to go quicker.

27:21So they really are sort of the guides and they've only been around for 200 years because before that you had all these people, the manifestors, manifesting generators and generators in the world, just like trying to find food and trying to survive and whatever. And now it's like you guys get to do more than that. Okay. Because you've mastered the rules of the material plane. So here's some projectors to just like help you with the tweaks. Now, the issue with projectors is that they live in a world where they see everyone else doing, doing, doing, and they think that that's what they have to get their value for.

27:49Yes. And so instead, projectors really have to understand that their value is not in how much they do and how much they can keep up, but how much they can serve the people that are doing the doing to do the doing, to do the doing that they want to be doing, right? So it's a real service thing where the more you double down on the specific thing that you see that could be a tweak to someone else or an improvement to serve somebody else, the better your life becomes. And also understanding that if you try to keep up with the rest of the world, you won't be as successful as if you just understand that you're here to serve and guide.

28:23And that doesn't mean you're supposed to be right about everything. It doesn't mean that other people can't see things. It just means that there's a specific thing that you come in to help other people get from A to B more seamlessly and clearly and beautifully. And when you do that, that's when your life starts to change. So your energy is best put into doing about two to three hours of obvious output every day, but more taking in, observing, working on what you see, working on what you guide, working on whatever. So it's a very internal process for a projector, which is why if you're trying to run around, you're not going to be, how do I put this?

28:57You're not going to be cultivating your gift more. So we have to understand that it's a different pace and there's no better or worse. And obviously everybody needs rest. So it's not even about resting. It's about this active, like work on your seeing, even if it looks like you're sitting around twiddling your thumbs and doing nothing, make it good. You know what I mean? Like work on your craft. And then you have reflectors. The reflectors are only 1 % of the population and reflectors are really the chameleons of society. What we say is that reflectors are able to feel what it's like being every other person on the planet.

29:32So when they're in the presence of somebody else, it's like they're fully taking on that somebody else. And so the purpose of a reflector is that their energy levels change completely depending on who they're around, because I'm literally just going to mirror the environment or the situation or the person that they find themselves in. So with them, the biggest advice is like not to try and get consistency in who you think you are or consistency in how you function just to feel secure. You know what I mean? Like sometimes we like to say, I am just like this. And that makes us feel better with reflectors.

30:01It's like, no, today I'm like super energized. Or if I want to be super energized, I mean, go to places that are super energized. Or, you know, if I feel a bit confused today, that doesn't mean I'm confused in life. It just means that's the day I'm having, right? So it's kind of about understanding that their main role is when they let go of trying to fix their identity, they actually serve as the best mirror for everybody else, because it's only through a reflector that we can truly see who we when the reflector is unblocked. So in terms of energy type of reflectors, it's they can be the most energized people and they can be the most tired people.

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32:25That is so wild. So I love this so much. So I'm a manifesting generator. And I actually kind of giggled when I saw that term, because when my book came out, one of our slogans was where the woo meets the work, like where the like visions of your life, like meet the like personality to do the work with it. And I was like, manifesting generator literally like fits exactly how I kind of approach life. And I was like, this makes total sense. So when somebody gets their human design, what are things that they can do and still learn that could help them specifically as entrepreneurs, we have so many entrepreneurs and side hustlers and dreamers listening.

33:07How has it impacted that part of your life. Okay. So this is the most amazing part of human design to me is that there's so many things. When you look at your chart, you can look at how your digestion functions. You can look at your energy levels. You can look at the different gifts that you come in inherently with. And I think the gifts is really helpful too, because it's like, okay, if you know what your passion is, there's different ways to animate that passion based on what you're good at. Right. So if you're good at strategy or you're good at nurturing, you can be a nurse both ways, but there would be different gifts that you would bring that would make you the best nurse that you can be.

33:41So I think looking at your gifts is really amazing. But I also think that the two main things in the whole of human design that actually change your life are what's called your strategy and your authority. Now your strategy is basically every single energy type has a way that they make things happen in life. So like what you're saying, where the room meets the work, it's like, how do you make stuff happen? How do you make things manifested into reality? Right? So, you know, again, we're told this rhetoric of like, just reach out to a hundred people and send them your CV. You know, that stuff is kind of, we all know that sort of a little bit outdated anyway, but every type has a different way that they can, if they fall into the flow of making things happen that way, it will happen for them more quickly.

34:24So for example, with you as a manifesting generator, your strategy would be to respond. And what that would mean is that only do the things that you have first gotten a physical visceral yes to. So what that doesn't mean is when the mind has told you it's a good idea and we kind of talk ourselves into it because, well, that's how everyone's doing or that's how it's always be done. Or yeah, because if you do A, then you'll get B. You have to almost imagine yourself from above watching yourself. And if you get like an actual, like, Like if you perk up, if you feel yourself get excited, if your body expands, if you feel that thing in you, that response to something first, then you can throw your full might into it and go do it.

35:06So that's your sort of strategy for making things happen in life. And when people say like co-creating with the universe, this is kind of to me where the rubber meets the road of like, okay, the universe gives you the sign, but then it's on you to go make it happen. But only once you've had the sign, you know? So each type has a different strategy. And that's how you make stuff happen in your life. And then you have your authority, which is the way that you make decisions. So if you know how to make stuff happen and you know how to make the right decisions, then the whole of your life, you always have any tool in any situation.

35:35You've got, you know, you've got your own back. You exactly know how to handle it and meet the test of today. So your authority is basically like the granular explanation of intuition to me. So different people's intuition speaks to them differently. In human design, we have different kinds of intuition. So some people have emotional intuition. That means when they think about it, does it make them smile? Does it make them feel happy? Does it make them feel sad? Emotional intuition, people also don't always know in the moment if something is a yes or a no. They need time to let it play out because they have these moods that can sometimes color the decision-making process.

36:12Then you have sacral authority people, gut intuition, right? That's a yes or a no, a black or a white, a this or a that. I want it or I don't. That's your gut. Listen to your gut. You know, we hear that all the time. So some people's intuition speaks to them through the gut. People always told me to listen to my gut. I never knew what that meant. I found human design and I realized that's because I don't have a gut. Like I don't, I can't connect to what that feels like. Right. And then you have like splenic authority, which is more that instinct, like go here today. And you just don't know why you hear that.

36:41And it goes on and on and on. So different intuitions, knowing how that works to you and also understanding that no matter what your intuition is, it's not the logical mind. So that's really also the universe speaking to you of, I don't need to be able to explain why something is a yes. I just need to trust that it is a yes. And this is where the sort of mystical piece really comes in because if you can explain it, it's probably not your intuition, you know? Because the intuition is the part of you that's in touch with that unseen stuff. And so the strategy and authority, you can literally implement that into every single business decision.

37:18And I do. And when I forget, I regret it. And when I, my mind still has conditioning that talks me out of it is when things don't go well. So, I mean, I have so many stories. It's kind of beyond, but, um, it's always the same lessons and, you know, it's always the same way with spirituality where it's, you know, you're never learning really anything new in terms of your lessons of your life. You're just kind of going on an output spiral at the moment where you see the lesson again and again, and you're like, Oh, I thought I'd master this, but here's a different way that it masters. Okay. Here's another way.

37:47And so for me, it's always the same. It's like my strategy being invited and my authority, which is listen to your emotions. And again, and again, it's like those two are my mantra, you know, it doesn't change. The instruction manual doesn't change, but the alignment gets better and sweeter, you know, and it keeps us united because it means that we're all the same. You know, it means that 10 years time, I'm just, cause I'm hopefully more evolved than I am now. It doesn't mean that my sort of life journey that I'm struggling with is anything different than, you know, somebody who's totally lost and just starting out.

38:20And so those are the two things I would look at in answer to your question. And I would also really look at the gifts because instead of thinking that you have to be a certain way to be a perfect entrepreneur, I would almost reverse engineer it and go, okay, well, these are the gifts that I'm bringing to my passion. It doesn't matter what my passion is, but if I bring the right gifts to it, that's when people, again, and we're reading energy without knowing it, that's when people are going to feel that zing off us, even if they can't explain why, because we're providing the value that we're supposed to be providing that they want from us.

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39:51Can you believe that we're already wrapping up 2025? This year was packed with travel and so many new memories. One of my favorite moments was our team retreat in Arizona with the incredible women who helped me keep this business running. I also recently took the kids to Nashville during fall break and somewhere in between I squeezed in a trip to Puerto Rico with friends. We booked some of our most memorable stays this year on Airbnb. There's something special about finding a place that doesn't just look great in the photos but actually feels welcoming the moment you walk in. That this feels right kind of feeling.

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41:15Even we had a Slack thread for my company and then everyone was saying what they were. And it was like, Oh yeah, that makes sense. That makes like, we're sharing charts and things like that. How can you utilize this tool to help you kind of maybe understand other people that are in your life? Well, I think the number one thing is the second you see other people clearly for who they are, it brings you so much acceptance, you know, and you kind of understand, okay, well, that doesn't mean just because we're different. One of us has to be right or wrong or correct or not correct. And human design at the very core of it is about de-homogenization.

41:49So when we can all individuate the type of world that we can create from us all kind of going off path is just radical, but we're still trying to homogenize each other because it makes us feel safe. Like, oh, if we're different, then that means either or I have to figure out that you're wrong in that way, or I have to judge you. Whereas actually, when I'm so happy with my lot, and I'm so in exceptions of my lot, then I can almost enjoy looking at you and the difference of it, not be threatened by it and be like almost in awe of it, actually. So I think number one is seeing people for what they really are and realizing it's not a threat is a huge already just it takes that it takes a sting out of that thing that we're all doing.

42:28The comparison and the thinking other people, we know how they should be. But also kind of deeper than that is it really does allow the perfect allocation of resources to happen in a team. Because for example, if I know that someone who works for me is a generator and I'm going to ask her to do something that doesn't light her up, it's actually not correct for me either. Like I'm going to lose out. So what that usually means is now, for example, with me with my team, the generator on my team, I ask her like, are you excited by this? Of course, there's certain things that everyone has to do that we're not that jazzed about, but I'm talking about bigger things, you know?

43:02I'll be like, are you excited by this? And I'll hear it in her tone, even if she's, you know, sometimes trying to still be polite or whatever. And I know that it's not going to benefit me if I then have to ask her to do something, right? So now what that usually means with that level of honesty and preserving other people's alignment, because you realize that's the best thing for everybody, right? You want to keep their sovereignty. You want to keep their alignment. What usually happens is you realize that that was an agenda you had that you didn't even need, that you thought you needed, that you can shed, or somehow it gets taken care of or someone else wants to do it, or all, right?

43:36So, and it works the same way in families, right? Like for example, we think, okay, well, a mom has to be this kind of way. Whereas actually your kids choose you. Sometimes they don't want a super hands-on mom or sometimes they don't want the mom that's gonna do all the activities with them. Sometimes they want the mom that's just going to sit that they can come and ask for advice. There's so many different kinds of perfect mom. There's so many different kinds of perfect partners. So it really just comes down to us seeing each other and having the best thing that human design does is it gives us languaging around this stuff.

44:05So we can say, oh, okay, well, now I know if I'm asking you as my husband, if you want to do something, I'm going to ask you in a language that your intuition can actually connect to. and I'm not going to hold your, what's true for you against you, because I think you have to be a certain way for me. And that's so not just freeing, but it catapults when we do it together, it catapults everyone's growth involved. That's so good. I know it was interesting when I did it for my daughters, cause we are all manifesting generators and I was like, that's wild. But then I was like, well, that'll help me understand them and maybe help them understand me as well.

44:45But it was interesting to even just look at that piece of it. Cause I'm like, Oh, that's really fascinating to like, look at my children who are obviously changing and growing every day and be like, Oh yeah, I see that. I totally see that. That's so interesting. That's so crazy. So how do you like stay in touch with yourself once you're learning it? So I can imagine somebody listening to this episode, they go and take the human design, they fill in the information, they get it. What are some ways that you can kind of stay in touch with that insight, that information, that, you know, roadmap, like you talked about to help use it in your everyday life so that it's not just something you look at once and you're like, Oh, cool.

45:27This is what I am. But it's something that is actually a tool in your life on a daily basis. I love that question so much, because I think that's such a common thing when we're learning about like new tools, new spirituality things like we learn it, we take it in, we're not through our brains again, right? Our minds thinking they're in charge, take it into our minds. We're like, I understand it. That means I've got it. And that's it. The thing I love about human design is kind of what I was saying to you earlier of like, I know my daily mantra is listen to your authority, listen to your emotions, being like, wait for the invitation.

46:00And it almost, um, how do I put this? It's almost hardest to do it at the beginning because it's like a new muscle that you're growing. So it feels like such a big pivot in the beginning. You know what I mean? The first step is the hardest because you're doing the most incremental kind of like direction change, but it does get easier from there because you just get used to every time you kind of catch things feeling like a bit down, a bit icky, a bit whatever you can come back to. Okay. How do I snap myself back into alignment? Listen to my strategy, listen to my authority. And what they say in human design, which is really fascinating is even if you didn't know anything else about your chart, if you just worked your strategy and authority every day and worked it silly, you would naturally end up living according to all the rest of your design without even necessarily knowing what it was.

46:47So it really is like, if you really want to just break it down and make it super simple and never learn anything else about it, or never learn anything else in your life to get aligned, it's like, instead of just these kind of platitudes, like trust the universe or feel your alignment or figure out what your alignment is, how we're supposed to know, Or what is your higher self? We don't know. The world is going to change so much anyway, right? Like it's almost better that we don't know so that we have no ceiling, right? Yeah. So it's really this thing of like, we have to understand that life can be as simple and yet as tricky as just trusting that whatever we get told to do in the very moment is what's going to, that's the test that the universe is sending you today.

47:24That's the opening. That's the next custom made opportunity for you to grow into your, what you were supposed to be. And so all you need to know and all you can know is this next thing, the next thing after that, and the next thing after that. And again, like I said, it's the scariest in the beginning. The more you do it, it actually becomes really fun because you're like, Ooh, let me surprise myself with like how, you know, how this test can like, what it's trying to get me to do, you know, and the rules only just get bigger and bigger. So it's really practical. Okay. So Jenna, I'm so excited about your new book that just came out.

47:57what will people learn inside of this book if they want to learn more about you and human design? Tell me a little bit about your book. Yeah. So the book really was, it's so funny, Jenna, because I didn't really ever set out to write a book. It was something that people would write to me on Instagram at least once a day, please write a book, please write a book or where's a good book you recommend about human design. And there are human design books and they are the original one is a very much a textbook. And so funny enough, according to my human design, I was invited by Hay House to write a book.

48:29And I said, yes. And I mean, here we are. My intention with the book really, and what I said to them was, listen, the textbook is out. Human design is very complex. It's very sciencey, you know, and I was telling you about my initial roots with science. I can kind of come full circle because now I really am like still a science nerd, just dressed in a woo woo kind of costume. But the intention with the book is to make it really simple, really easy, really accessible. So you have it on your coffee table. You look up your friend when they come over, you can look at their gifts. It's right there in front of you.

49:01We go into so much of a deeper level on all of the gifts, which we don't have anywhere else. But we also go into just like having it all in one piece, because if you look up your design, you know, yours, if you look up your husband's, you know, your husband, but this is all the information all in one place. You can read it from front to back, or you can literally just quickly look up. Okay. Let me remind myself about what emotional intuition is, you know, and reread that section. And it is just more in depth than, than it is anywhere else. Really. I love it. I'm so excited. I like cannot wait to get my hands on it.

49:33Where can everybody connect with you online, figure out their human design, check out your app, like give me all the places that we can get more of this. Okay. So it's my human design.com to look up your chart. We also have video, like hundreds of video courses on there. If you want to learn more about any aspect of your chart, that's just me kind of talking to you. We train people there too, if they want to get certified in human design, all that sort of thing. And then the app is called my human design. And that's where we have the daily tips and the, you know, the looking up other people's charts.

50:07And I redo your chart. So it's like getting a reading from me and we have a ton of exciting stuff happening over there too. On Instagram, we're my human design. I'm my also personal one is just at Jenna Zoe. And the book is called Human Design by Jenna Zoe. Amazing. Jenna, thank you so much for coming on the podcast. I have just loved getting to learn more from you. And I'm so excited about all that is to come. I can't wait to watch you be this projector into the world and keep changing lives. It's just such an awesome thing to be able to witness. Thank you so much. And thank you for having me.

50:42I loved today's episode. I could have talked to Jenna for hours and hours. I'm so fascinated. And And I love learning different ways that we can kind of come home to ourselves. What she said really resonated about just different ways that our intuition can show up different ways. We can lean into our gifts, different ways our energy can ebb and flow. And I think there's a lot of power in just equipping ourselves with the knowledge and tools that share why we are the way we are. For so many of us, we've moved through our lives trying to change who we are and how we exist. And I love liberating tools that are like, this is why you are this way.

51:15And here's how you can celebrate and lean into that. And I think Jenna does an incredible job of bringing those tools into this life. Thank you so much for listening to another episode of the gold digger podcast. Before you go, I would love to see where you are listening to today's show. So take a quick picture of you tuning in, whether you are watching this or listening to it, I would love to see your atmosphere and the energy around you as you tune in. And of course, until next time, gold diggers keep on digging your biggest goals. I'm over here giving you a virtual high five because you just finished another episode of the Gold Digger Podcast.

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