705: Exposing All the Reasons Why You Haven't Created a Digital Course (YET!)

23:29Okay. So this segues into a great conversation. We've kind of touched on it, but I want to go a little bit deeper on it. So I think a lot of people think that in order to make money selling a digital course, you have to teach other people how to make money, right? Like it's like, okay, well, of course, Amy and Jenna, you can do well with digital courses because you're helping people make money in their businesses. But, you know, I help sleep train babies or help organize cabinets or whatever that is. Walk me through like why people need to understand that it's not just for a business type of business that serves other business owners in order to make money.

24:05Walk me through some other like examples that you might have. Okay, so we have to remember that the beautiful thing about a digital course to the consumer, the student, is that number one, they don't have to leave their house. Number two, it's often cheaper than having to go somewhere to get the knowledge that you want. Number three, it's on your own time. So you could go as slow or as fast. One of the things that Jenna doesn't know, but she gives me the biggest compliment ever when she says, I went through one of your videos again to learn one more time how to do whatever you do, like years later.

24:37Like, I love that. Literally, I have a tab open of your program because whenever I'm in a launch, I'm like, I know how I've done this, but I just want to refresh and make sure that I'm doing it the right way. That's amazing. Yes. You can watch it over and over and over again for years. As long as you want, as many times as you want and at your own pace. So we have to remember, those are all the benefits to the student going through the course. But as the course creator, you might think, okay, well, Amy teaches people how to make money. So that's why her course works. Jenna teaches people how to grow their email list and how to start a podcast so they can make money in their business.

25:15So that's why it works. That is not true. It works because people, many of my students, have figured out, oh, there's a need here. I'm good at this. I'm going to teach people how to do it step-by-step. So let me give you an example. I have thousands of course creators created courses successfully that have nothing to do with making money and nothing to do with building a business. One of my favorites is Nicole Burke. She started out by going to people's homes in Dallas and building kitchen gardens for them. So she had four kids at home that she homeschooled, but she was going out to these places and building their kitchen gardens, fruits, vegetables, herbs.

25:53She was really good at it. But then she realized, wait a second, I've got all these kids at home. I'm homeschooling them. This is too crazy. I can't do this. But it was lucrative for her. So she put it into a digital course. Now she's teaching people how to build their own gardens. So not only is this proof, and she's made over a million dollars for the record, but not only is this proof that digital courses beyond making money absolutely work, but what I love is that she could have said, I go to people's homes and do it for them. Nobody wants a course on this. They don't want to do it themselves.

26:24Huge misconception. There's a lot of people that want to do it themselves. One of the reasons why it's a whole lot cheaper to buy her digital course than to have her come into your home. So we need to remember that it's not a money-making opportunity that makes digital courses work. It's finding something that you're good at that other people would like to know how to do it. Well, and even think about this example. She is one person in one geographic area. The amount of people that she could actually help is incredibly limited. Seasonally, time-wise, geographically. Now she has a digital course.

26:58She can serve people all across the world. Like that alone is so amazing. And I just think it's so cool because I feel like let's talk about this next objection that people are thinking is like, no, it has to be me. It has to be one-on-one because I think that's a lot of people think that is like, but the thing I do is so unique. It is so custom. It is so personalized. How would a digital course work? Let's talk about that. When you think that if you do one-on-one coaching, consulting, service-based business, and you think what I do is so customized and one-on-one, it would never work in a course.

27:33You're selling yourself short. And here's why you are an intelligent person who has a business that is working. Meaning what you're doing is working. I can promise you there's a framework or a theme or a pattern that runs throughout everything you do. It's so natural to you that you might not see it yet. And that's my job to help you pull it out of you and show the roadmap that you've been using all along, but there are patterns and themes in what you're doing. Sure. You might get one-on-one with a patient or a customer or student. Like one of my students, she's a psychologist. So she meets with people one-on-one in her office and she could have told me, yeah, Amy, but they have specific issues they tell me about.

28:12And I help them with those specific issues. Everyone is different. That's true. But the way she helps them is the same. The questions she asks, the way she moves them through their emotions, the way she helps them see a different side of it. All of that is the same with all their clients. So she created a digital course on how to help women see their self-worth, which is one area she saw keep coming up in her practice. And she's been able to have an additional stream of revenue while she just had a baby so she could take some time off. Like that's the stuff I love, but never think that what you do one-on-one cannot translate into a course.

28:47It absolutely can. And let me give you one more thing. When Cade was little, I used to read them these books and they were called choose your own adventure books. And so have you done that with the Coco yet? No, but I love those books. So fun. So you get to like page 50 and it says, okay, if you want to climb the mountain, go to page 55. But if you want to go by sea, go to page 60. And so he would choose and I would go to the pages. You can do that in your courses where you can have special videos to say, if you're struggling with this, I want you to go to this video, use this video to keep moving forward.

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31:05Okay. Two things that popped up while you were talking about this, because I think this is brilliant. So if you are someone in the service-based industry and you're serving people one-on-one in custom ways, you are likely not able to serve everyone, right? There is a limit to what you can do. So there are ways to simplify your process and give people even a lighter version of what your customization looks like through a digital course. And there's also this opportunity where you could have it be a requirement that before someone becomes a one-on-one client, they need to complete this course as like a preliminary introduction to you, your business, your philosophy, your methods.

31:41And so it could be a really great way to like help people see that they are really intentional about wanting to work with you. They're willing to do the work. And that way, then every single time you're not repeating the same things over and over, they have the foundation and understanding of where they're starting from. It's a totally different place than if you dive right into one-on-one. So if you have an existing business where you're doing more of this custom type stuff, this can be an awesome like requirement that you have for people that then elevate to those one-on-one levels. So I think it's amazing that you can think of it as this extra revenue stream, an additional way to serve people that you might not have been able to serve and kind of a prerequisite to be able to work with you on that more intimate level.

32:24So I think that's amazing. Okay, this brings me to the next thing. So there's a big debate going on. Don't you think everything is so black and white These days, like I live for the shades of gray. Yeah. I actually recently did a podcast episode on this topic because I think it is a big one. And it is the difference between high ticket, high touch, low ticket, low touch. There is a debate in the online course world that like only the really high ticket courses are selling or only the$30 courses are selling. Break this down for me so that people that are listening and maybe thinking that can have a deeper understanding.

32:58Okay. Due to the fact that we're hearing both. I recently did a huge survey with my audience and half of the audience would say if they're having a challenge with courses, they'd say exactly what you said. Only high ticket is selling anything like three, four, five thousand dollars or more. That's the only thing that's selling online right now. I don't even have anything that's that expensive. No, that's not true. That's true. So Jenna and I are proof that is not true. Yes. And then there's this whole subset of my survey audience that said, well, the only thing that's really working right now is like forty seven dollar products.

33:29Like you said, digital products that are like PDFs and templates and all of that. And so again, I don't even have any of those. So I've got a$2 ,000 program. I've got a$500 program. The thing is, you have to consider the source. The people that are saying only high ticket sells is because they're not having any luck with what they want to do. You have to consider the source. People that are saying it has to be a cheaper product because they tried to sell something higher and it didn't work. When it doesn't work, that's what we've got to look at. Why aren't these working for certain people? And to me, it's all about the plan.

34:02So getting a plan that allows you to actually not just get your course created, but how are you launching it? So let me give you an example. Someone that's selling, let's say a$2 ,000 course, and they're saying it doesn't work. Are you doing webinars? Have you tried to challenge? Have you tried to bootcamp? There's a lot of different things that you can add to your promotion that changes it like that. Years ago, I didn't do a bootcamp and for the last two years I have. And the reason for that is I wanted a low barrier entry to introduce people to digital courses. And I saw that we were missing that.

34:35So I got to try something new. It worked. So now it's part of my plan. So it's this experimentation, putting a plan together, trying new things. It all works. That's the newsflash from$47 to$5 ,000. All of it works. And the reason I know this is because I have thousands of students who are at different price points with their courses and they're crushing it. And I have proof of this, but it's scarcity. It's fear. It's different perceptions that these narratives are started from. You have to consider the source. Yeah. Okay. So let's segue into selling because I think this is the perfect segue. So many people are like, okay, I know what I know.

35:12I know I can teach it. I do not know how to market. I do not know how to sell. That part is probably making people squeamish, right? Like they're like, okay, could I just like make a course and like pop it up on a site and like, maybe people would buy it. Right. What would you say to someone who is like terrified of selling something? Because I think that's a huge majority of the people listening. Yeah. I think so too. Like my students will say, you want me to get on a webinar? Like, have you lost your mind? Yeah. So the first thing I'll say is one of the reasons why I think our businesses have thrived over the years, Jenna, is that we've been willing to learn how to market our message.

35:51And it is a learning curve. Like we didn't just wake up one morning and we were great marketers. We have been learning this stuff for years and years. So this is your opportunity to learn something that you will use throughout everything you do in your business. If today, you say, I'm not a good marketer. Well, let's change that right now. I don't care if you're creating courses, memberships, masterminds, you have to become a great marketer of your message, not a great marketer overall. Jenna and I teach this stuff. You don't have to teach it, but for your message, you got to become a pro. And so this is your opportunity to learn email marketing, social media, funnels, webinars, bootcamps, whatever it is, because it will explode everything you do.

36:35It's a skill you can't not have. So why not make today the day you start to become a better marketer. Yeah. You know, it's so interesting because a lot of people in the industry will say the term like selling is a service. And I actually love that because I think a lot of times we feel like selling is scammy, selling is sleazy. And what I think is really interesting, and I've seen it sometimes even within myself where I have to remember this, is like we get so invested in creating the actual thing, whether it's your product, your service, your offer or your course, we get so into it that we don't realize that if we don't do that same level of work, that same level of dedication, no one's going to actually enjoy the thing that we just worked so hard on.

37:17And so I've seen so many people where they like create this epic online course. It's so good. It's going to change people's lives. They get to the selling thing and they post it up once or twice on Instagram stories and nobody bites. And all of a sudden they're like, it's a failure. And I was like, no, if you want people to enjoy what you just created, you have to have that same level of dedication of getting it out there, like that same level of conviction. And so when you think of it, like selling as a service, meaning you are giving people this opportunity for transformation and your job is to invite them.

37:50Their job is to discern, is this the right choice for me right now? Yes or no. It's not usually a reflection of you or your offer. It's usually a reflection of them, their life and what's happening in it. But if you don't do a good job with that invitation phase, they're not even going to know that there's an opportunity for them. That's why marketing and sales is so important, but it's something that you have to consistently experiment with and you have to put the same level of dedication into that side of things as you do into the actual course itself. Introducing your new Dell PC powered by the Intel Core Ultra Processor.

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39:20Can you believe that we're already wrapping up 2025? This year was packed with travel and so many new memories. One of my favorite moments was our team retreat in Arizona with the incredible women who helped me keep this business running. I also recently took the kids to Nashville during fall break and somewhere in between I squeezed in a trip to Puerto Rico with friends. We booked some of our most memorable stays this year on Airbnb. There's something special about finding a place that doesn't just look great in the photos but actually feels welcoming the moment you walk in. That this feels right kind of feeling.

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40:29And there's so many different ways to navigate. Jenna is like the pro at not always showing her face, but doing incredibly well with her courses. So I bring you up all the time, Jenna, as a great example. I say, my friend makes millions of dollars of digital courses, but in her digital course, she's not even showing her face and on webinars. She's not on camera the whole time. So yeah. So it's my favorite thing. But when I talk about that, like doing webinars and putting yourself out there, the reason why I love webinars, and I think this can relate to some people. I'm an introvert. I'd rather not be live on camera and front and center.

41:02However, I'm a people pleaser as well. And I want to make sure I give value before I ever ask for anything in return. Like it's really important to me. And in my mind years ago, I decided that I'm going to earn the right to sell. And webinars are my way of earning the right to sell. I blow their minds for 45 minutes. I give immense value. You walk away and you don't buy. You walk away feeling inspired, driven to take action, ready to go, no matter if you buy or not. So I know I just gave 45 minutes of great actionable training. I've earned the right to say, and if you love this and you want to go to the next step, let me show you how.

41:38That feels good to me. So find a vehicle that feels good to you and you will never feel bad about selling. Yeah, I agree. And I think it's just one of those things that it's like you get more comfortable. The more that you see that people actually experience transformation, the more anchored to your why that you are, the more that you're convicted in how you show up. And so it's like getting people results in any way is only going to like boost up your confidence. And we have more confidence. You're more consistent. And I think that is the ticket to becoming good at selling or at least effective, which I think is great.

42:13Yes. And then I guess we can punctuate it with this. You don't have to be a marketing pro. You don't need to have 10 years of marketing experience to market a digital course. You just need to understand your audience and deliver a message that they really resonate with. And I can help people do that all day long, but don't think that you need more marketing experience. You just need a plan. Yep. Okay. So speaking of a plan, a lot of people just feel like this whole process is overwhelming, right? We've talked about creating a course. We've talked about recording. We've talked about webinars. We've talked about bootcamp.

42:44Like there are a lot of pieces to the puzzle, right? What would you say to someone who was like, okay, but like, I, I don't know how to do any of this. Like this is all brand new. Like there's so much to learn. What would you say? I'd say that definitely it's going to take work and dedication, anything worth doing in your business. It's going to take some time, some learning, some implementation for sure. I'm not going to sugarcoat that. I want to remind you that you are creating an asset in your business one time that you can launch over and over and over again. You can make it better. You can make your marketing better, your course better, but we're never starting from scratch with this one course again.

43:23So my model is let's create it once and then let's get to reap the benefits of launching it and making money with it over and over and over again. So is it worth your time? That's the first mindset shift you have to make. Is it worth your time to figure this out? Absolutely. Does it have to be overwhelming? No. So one thing at a time. People overthink it. They think of all the moving parts and they don't realize, wait we're gonna do these in an order that actually builds off each other. We're not doing a webinar on day one. We're easing into it. We're coming up with a course idea. We're deciding how much we want to charge for it.

43:59So we're going to take baby steps, step by step. And as you get better and better, you will get more advanced in what you're doing. So we're not doing it all at once. And we also don't need to do all the advanced strategies. I have this motto in my teaching, keep it simple, get fancy later. So maybe you don't even do a webinar on your first launch. One of my students, Rhea, she made$105 ,000 on her first digital course, teaching estheticians how to build their businesses. She didn't even do webinars, but she was really good at Instagram. So she used Instagram to do it. There's other ways around this.

44:34I didn't do webinars for my first launch and I had an email list of a few hundred people and I leveraged that and just shared with people like one-on-one of who I thought would be a good fit for it. Cause I was like, I can see what you're doing. I know I can help you. So I love the start simple, get fancy later. I think of that all the time. I think I'm still in the simple camp in most of the ways that I do it. And it's working. Okay. So the next thing that I think is perfect for us to talk about is that someone's going to say there are a million courses out there on the topic. Now real quick for the listeners.

45:09So they understand Amy and I both have digital courses on the same topic. We both teach email list building, similar price point, similar offer, different instructors. Guess what? We're both doing incredible. So what would you say if someone's like, okay, I just Googled a course on XYZ for the topic and I saw that there's already 30 of them out there, 50, 100, what would you say? Number one, if other people have courses on your topic and there's a few of them or a lot of them, it's the ultimate validation that it's working, that people see a need for this and they're willing to pay for it. There wouldn't be courses out there on it if it didn't work.

45:49And so when I take people through different validation exercises to make sure you're not gonna create a course that no one will buy, one of them is, let's see if people are already making money around this topic that you wanna create a course on. Look at it as the ultimate validation. Number two, there are over 7 billion people in this world. You need a tiny sliver to pay attention. If you want to make$10 ,000 on a digital course and your course is 500 bucks, that is 20 people in the whole world. 20 people need to raise their hand. So we need to get a little bit more realistic about the fact that we're not looking for thousands of people to buy from us or hundreds of thousands of people.

46:2820 people can make you$10 ,000, which is a lot of money for a first course. And so we need to put this into perspective. Also, I know you all have heard this, but do you believe it? And maybe this is the chance that I can get you to believe it. No one's gonna teach it the way you do. No one has your experiences. No one has your stories the way you're going to tell them in order to get people to move forward. People buy Jenna's list building course over mine because something that Jenna did resonated with them. They wanted to learn from her. They like how she does her business, what it's all about, how she talks about it and vice versa.

47:03How are we both thriving with very similar courses? And we literally are dear friends. It's because there's enough room for all of us. But we also adopted that mindset. It wasn't, it's not just a fact. We actually behave as though we believe it. Absolutely. And the other thing too, is like, there might be people that don't even know you exist. And there might be people that don't know I exist. And so it's like, yeah, there are 30 other courses on this topic, but like, maybe I've never even been exposed to them or like, you know, you know, okay. I love that you said this. Well, I was talking to one of my students and I said, do you know, so-and-so who does such and such.

47:40And everyone in my mind knows this person. Yeah. She's actually was, I was asking my personal trainer if she knew Alex Hermosey. Now Alex was in the fitness world. Alex is everywhere right now, right? You and I were talking about like, he's crushing it. She had no idea who he was. And in my mind, he's huge because I live in that world of internet marketing. Of course, I think he's huge. You live in this little bubble that is all your topic, all your expertise, all your niche. Your students do not live there. They don't know the other players. So let's not worry about them. I love this. Okay. The final question or objection, and this is kind of a twofold.

48:19So for someone listening to this and they're like, okay, I want to learn how to do this, but like, I don't know if I can invest in it. Like, why would I invest in it? And they might even be thinking, of that from the perspective of a potential student too. Why would somebody pay to learn this? Talk to me about what filter you kind of make those investment decisions around in terms of your learning. Because I know I think of a few certain things, like for me, when I'm going to invest in something, and I've always said this to you, if I walk away with one thing that I can do over and over and over again, that will make me more money, the investment is absolutely worth it.

48:54What kind of things do you consider before investing or what kind of things should somebody consider before they invest in learning a system like this? Oh, such a great question. Number one, the person you're learning from, do they have a proven track record? That's the first thing you need. Never learn from someone who hasn't had the results that you want or similar to the results you want. Number two, make sure they're the kind of teacher that's going to teach you step by step. I hate when I get into a digital course and it's very general and big picture, but I'm like, yeah, but how do I create that funnel?

49:29What do I write in that email? Like I want specifics. And the way you know, if your guide, if the trainer in your course is going to do that, look at their free stuff. Are they walking you through step-by-step? Are they sharing a lot of great value before they ever ask you to spend any money with them? So they should have a podcast, a blog, a video show, social media where they're sharing their content on a regular basis so you can really engage with that before you buy. I think that's important as well. And then I love what you said about walking away with one thing. A lot of people won't buy a course because they'll say, I have five courses that I bought and I've never gone through them or I haven't gotten to the finish line.

50:07I have many courses I purchased that I haven't gotten to the finish line, but I took one thing away and that's all I needed. They taught me how to do something that I used in another area of my business and boom,$100 ,000. So set your expectations appropriately. If you can walk away with learning something really great and big, whether you end up finishing the course or not, can you be satisfied? Most people with that mentality finish the course. You always finish the courses. You always get, you're very good. I am very dedicated. I'm very routinized, but like, I just, I feel like so many people that are listening right now, they don't understand this one point that I feel like is the absolute game changer when it comes to investing in your growth.

50:48And that is when you invest, a lot of times it is a one-time investment for knowledge that allows you to compound a result over and over and over again. I will never forget being in seventh grade math class with Mr. Davidson when he taught compounding interest. And I was like, this is incredible. Like you can do this thing one time. And then And it's just working for you over and over again. And I think about that all the time. And I think we also need to normalize that when we're talking about numbers like millions and a hundred thousand and all these, it's not free to learn the skills to get there, right?

51:24I think a lot of times we're like, well, I'm just gonna keep YouTubing. I'm just gonna keep looking it up. I'm just gonna keep listening to the free podcast. There is something to be said about the people that you see that are absolutely crushing it, that are soaring are the first people that will tell you that they are consistently investing in learning from people that are better than they are, that are smarter than they are, or that have gone before them. And I think that there is something in this online world, and maybe this is controversial, I don't know, that we tiptoe around the fact that we have invested a lot of money to get to these places and that we should normalize that that investment is something you should be super proud about that should also put skin in the game that you will follow through.

52:06You will make it a success. There is a reason why you have not done something with all the free content that you've gotten in the world. And that is because there was no skin in the game. There was no risk. You weren't hurting in a way that made you take action. And so I just think, you know, you and I, we talk about this all the time of like, here's what we're learning. Here's what we're buying. Here's a mastermind we're attending. Here's what we're, you know, you're getting together with girlfriends to do like a mastermind. Like it costs money to get yourself into spaces, rooms, communities where people are going to help push you to your potential.

52:38Amen. So perfectly said. Mic drop. Okay. So that leads us to how can people learn more about this, right? We've talked about all the reasons why people might not be doing this, but there is a million reasons why they should and why they can. So talk to me about your masterclass that is coming up. You do this once a year. I am a very proud supporter and partner of everything you do in life, in love, in marriage, in the pursuit of happiness, but also in business. Tell me about this masterclass and why people need to be there. I am so excited about this live masterclass. So here's what it's all about.

53:17The title is Your Low Stress Start to Finish Digital Course Launch in Five Streamlined Steps. I want you to walk away with the big picture. What does it take to create a digital course? What kind of effort do I need to put into this? What do I need to understand? You will have all of those answers when you leave this masterclass. But I'm doing it a little different this year. I want it to be more interactive. I want it to feel like a workshop where you walk away making some decisions and actually getting started. So get ready for something different than I've ever done. But I'm excited about it because I'm going to teach you how to create and launch a course when you don't have a big team, when you don't have a big budget, when you feel overwhelmed, like, oh my gosh, Amy, where do I start and what do I do next?

53:57We are going to answer all of that on the live masterclass. Okay, so here's a fun fact about me. I attend every single one of Amy's masterclasses because I just like to cheer you on. So if you want to join me inside of the masterclass, go to Jenna plus Amy.com. That's Jenna plus Amy.com PLUS. It is a wonderful, wonderful thing. I love watching how you continue to iterate and evolve. And I want people to know this is brand new. Like Amy and I have been talking behind the scenes about this year's experience and it's going to be incredible. And what I love about it is that there will be concrete things that you will walk away with, understanding and believing that you absolutely can do this.

54:39And I just love it because when I think about this conversation today, to kind of sum it all up, there are a million reasons why we don't do things in life. And anything that you are likely proud of in your life, you can pinpoint back to one decision where you said, I'm just going to go for it. I'm just going to try. I'm just going to put myself out there. Remember, you're not an imposter. You're a beginner. And we want to help guide you through this. And so Amy, I'm so excited about all of your masterclasses. Again, you can save your seat at Jenna plus Amy.com. I cannot wait to be with you on this journey.

55:13And when I think about my life, I will never forget. There's so many things that I can tie back to you, but I can never forget so many moments of when you gave me the courage to make that first. Yes. Like the time where you were on your podcast and you were talking about an upcoming course you were teaching. And I was in the shower and I wanted to be like, take my money. And I reached out of the shower and I voice memoed my team. And I said, I want to make a podcast. Like Amy has served me so well that I would give her money for anything to learn from her at a deeper level. We won't bring up the email that I sent you where I literally like fangirled and was like asking you to mentor me one-on-one, but all of these things have like led us to this point today.

55:56And I think that when we trace it all back, it's a lot of these like nervous, shaky hand yeses that have guided us to some of our greatest things that we've ever done in our lives. And so if you're listening to this, if you're shaky hand, if you're hovering over a mouse or you're typing something into your browser, let it be Jenna plus Amy.com sign up, show up. I'll be there. Amy will be teaching. Learn from my mentor and my best friend. And you're just, your life will never be the same. I can confidently say that. Thank you, my friend. And thank you for having me on again. This is always so much fun.

56:29I always learn so much from you. I always am like, what do you think, Jenna? Tell me your opinion about that. Because it's so fun for me as well. So thank you for this. I really hope people got a lot of value. That was so good. True story. We had a totally different plan of what we were going to talk about before we sat down today. And I said, you know what? I don't want to beat around the bush anymore. I want to address these objections head on because guess what? To ask those questions is normal. In fact, so many people are thinking the same things you're thinking. Can I really do this? Am I able to teach?

57:03What are people going to say about me? Am I able to sell? And so we sat down on Zoom and I said, Amy, can we totally flip the script here? Can we just talk about these things candidly without a plan today? And thankfully she said yes. And I think this episode was so powerful. I hope that whatever is milling around in your busy mind was addressed today and helps give you the confidence to start to take a leap of faith in the right direction. Again, as a reminder, Amy has her free live trainings. You can sign up and save your seat at jennaplusamy.com. You can better believe I'm going to be there cheering my girl on.

57:39That's jennaplusamy.com to save your seat to Amy's live trainings, all about your low stress, start to finish digital course launch in five streamlined steps. I am so excited to attend and learn from the genius herself. Thank you so much for listening to another episode of the Gold Digger Podcast. Until next time, keep on digging your biggest goals. I'm over here giving you a virtual high five because you just finished another episode of the Gold Digger Podcast. Did that go by way too fast for anyone else? If you want more, head over to golddiggerpodcast.com for show notes and all the discount codes from today's sponsors.

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