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26:05And since I do tax stuff, I talk a lot about profitability. So I'm very numbers driven. So I was like, okay, well, the next launch is going to be like pure profit. So like, let's do this. Oh my gosh. I love that. First off, I could have used your course when I started my business because I did it on LegalZoom and I did it entirely wrong, which cost me a lot of money to go backwards and try to get an accountant to fix it for me. So I love that. Walk me through what your business has looked like ever since. So we talked about year one, but you are no longer in year one. So what has happened since creating your course, launching it, iterating it, serving students?

26:39Give me kind of the synopsis. Sure. So we did that launch. The next launch, I doubled the price again to 2000 and we had 20 students sign up. And that was basically the pattern that went from there. I launched every spring and fall. To give the short synopsis, I ended up adding in a membership. So we had that. Now, the past few years, we've done six figures in several consecutive years just with online courses and memberships, not counting one-on-one services. And it's been really amazing because in addition to it being great for my bank account, the students love it because for them, they have a much more accessible price point to get legal and tax services.

27:20But also the huge unexpected benefit is they come to me all the time and they say, oh my gosh, I've learned so much. This is amazing. When I go and actually give my tax stocks to my tax repair, I know why they're asking for certain things. I know what to expect. I'm not shocked when I see my tax balance. I'm actually prepared. So those things you can't really put a dollar value on, which is amazing. Oh my gosh, that is incredible. I mean, you are saving people time, money, frustration, shame. I mean, let's talk about it. How many entrepreneurs are listening to this and they're like, when my accountant reaches out, there is a deep level of shame in how we've done this.

27:56Yeah, we've had students cry on our calls multiple times. We talk a lot about back taxes as well. So we have people who come in who didn't know about quarterly taxes when they started their businesses. So they have big tax balances. That's why it's really important also in a group program to foster a sense of confidentiality in communities so people feel open to share. And then by the end of the program, people feel so much better, which is a huge weight off their shoulders, hopefully. What would you say to somebody that's listening to this and they're like, okay, good for you, Brayden, but this isn't going to work for me.

28:28What would you say to them? I would say it can work if you get the right idea and you put in the work. It's not easy. I'm not going to tell anyone that it is easy. But if you want to do it badly enough, if it's an interesting business model for you, and you think it's going to work for your people, then you can definitely make it work for sure. Would you say that every time and like every time you launch, every time you iterate, every time you promote, it gets easier though? Like it's interesting how like looking at your results, like you have, if I picture a bar graph, Like it is just zooming upwards.

29:04And I feel like the sky is the limit. How has the process been each time you do it? Because for me, it gets easier. And I definitely have more confidence every time, even years later. I would say the process of launching gets a lot, lot easier. My team actually kind of teases me because they're like, Brayden's going to decide that we're launching next week. And we're like, he's going to crank out the emails, right? Because that's kind of how it works at this point. On the flip side, I'll say the one thing I have to tell myself all the time is to not get complacent because I know you talk about list building all the time.

29:35We always have to have new people to remember our program too. So as long as we're bringing new people in in between our launches, then I know that we're going to have a great launch because the system works if you have people to get into the system. Yes. Oh my gosh. I love this. Is there anything that you are excited about when it comes to the online course world that is kind of like lighting you up these days that you can't believe you're even like nerding out about? Well, yeah, because I actually love to teach. I've always said, once I get to a really good place in my business, I want to become an adjunct professor.

30:08I don't know if you know much about them, but they do not really get paid hardly anything. It really is a labor of love, just like a class a semester, teaching business law or tax. So that's the part I really love. And getting people to buy into actually wanting to learn those things is sometimes the harder part of what it is that I do. But once we are able to do that, it's really, really exciting and rewarding for me, for sure. Okay. So since everyone listening is like, okay, I need more Brayden in my life, but I definitely need what he teaches. Can you tell us where we can connect with you and find out more about your course and check out your work in that way?

30:44Sure. So quick swear warning for everyone. I do have my own podcast. It is called Un-Fuck Your Biz with Brayden, asterisk for the U. It's the same name as my program and my book. But if you want to find my website, my law firm is called the Not Your Average Law Firm. It's not avglaw.com. And then you can follow me on Instagram, Brayden, B-R-A-D-E-N. Adam, like the biblical figure, Drake, like the rapper. That's my full name. I love watching you soar. And I know team members on my team have taken your program and learned so much from you. And so I just have to say from one course creator to another, I am so thankful that you dove into this world so that you could make a difference in the way that only you can.

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34:42Can you believe that we're already wrapping up 2025? This year was packed with travel and so many new memories. One of my favorite moments was our team retreat in Arizona with the incredible women who helped me keep this business running. I also recently took the kids to Nashville during fall break and somewhere in between I squeezed in a trip to Puerto Rico with friends. We booked some of our most memorable stays this year on Airbnb. There's something special about finding a place that doesn't just look great in the photos but actually feels welcoming the moment you walk in. That this feels right kind of feeling.

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35:53Yes. Okay. So I know all this about you, but let the audience know a little bit about who you are, who you serve, what kind of course you've created, and then we'll dive into some of the background on it. Awesome. Okay. So my name is Lindsay and I started my business back in 2014 doing custom wedding stationery. So I grew that business as a solopreneur. I grew that business. It became rather successful. And in 2019, that was our biggest year yet. So we had hit 300K in yearly revenue as a solopreneur. I'm super proud of that. But I found myself, and I'm wondering if you found this too, Jenna, when you transitioned from photography to education, I found myself more passionate about building and growing the business, like the sales and the marketing than I was about the actual craft of doing wedding invitations.

36:44So that was, yes. Okay. I figured you could relate to that as like being in the wedding industry and a service provider. So that was kind of my first inkling that maybe I should, you know, add something new to the business, make a pivot. But the reality was this was our busiest year yet. I didn't even have a second to think about adding anything onto the business. So it was just kind of like a someday dream or like, like literally a retirement goal. But this was 2019. So we all know what happened in 2020. We got a second, everyone got a pause and I decided that this was now or never. So I joined DCA and the rest is history.

37:25So I joined DCA comes out once a year in September, obviously, as you know, so the timing was not ideal because I started DCA September 16th. I was nine months pregnant. I had Jameson on the 25th. So it was kind of a whirlwind, but that first course I created, it was called the wedding booking blueprint. So it was basically like a general course for wedding pros to grow their business. And I had one lesson in there about bridal shows or wedding shows, how to grow your business with wedding shows. And that was the thing that everybody latched onto. Like, tell me more about wedding shows. What did you do here?

38:01So I've since created a second course called the Bridal Show Blueprint that kind of dives deeper into that. So, you know, that's kind of the gist of how I started in DCA and where I am now. I will never forget in our Facebook group, when you shared that, you had the baby and everyone was so excited. I felt like we were all like God mamas and dads of your child, which you did all the work there. But I will never forget to you making that decision to join, you know, in a time in your life where it would be so easy to say not right now. Obviously, time was a huge factor of like, can I do this? Is it going to be worth it?

38:39What other fears did you have about taking your knowledge, which was very service based and putting it into something that could serve many people digitally? So I really didn't have many fears going into it other than just the practical, like, can I do this with a newborn? Because I had been building my business. I started in 2014 and I was kind of coaching, you know, non-professionally, but like casually on the side for other wedding pros in the industry. So I knew I could do it. I had followed you and Amy for a while. So I saw what was possible, but it was just kind of the logistics of like, okay, I want to start this now because I'm not going to wait another year.

39:21This was the time I could do it because all of the weddings that I had were just on pause. So it was kind of now or never. So it was really just the practical sense of like how I'm going to do this with a newborn. I love this story, Lindsay, because I think so many people listening are in that service-based business and they're thinking like, how can my knowledge or my skills actually transfer to something online? You know, I think a lot of us, especially like in the wedding world, it's like, no, only I can do this thing and I can only do it in my way. And there's no way that like the gifts I have can transfer.

39:56And I love how you did that. Now you talked about how your first course, you had this one little section and people like clung to that. So then you expanded on it with another course. Walk me through what your launches were like, what the outcomes were like, as you started to kind of iterate and try different things? Yes. So it was really interesting because like doing DCA, Amy literally gives you all of the tools start to finish. So I was really excited and proud of this first course. Like I knew that it was going to help so many people. I knew it was on point. And that first launch did really well.

40:31I had launched. So I took a break. Obviously I had Jameson. I took three months to have my maternity leave. So I was kind of like three months behind the group, which was actually kind of cool because I was, I could be like a fly on the wall and like tune into the Q and A's and the chat, but I wasn't actually like doing it yet. So by the time I launched, I had all of that knowledge from the group, but also the support. So I'm like, okay guys, now I'm ready to go and they can help me like do this, do that. So the first launch of the wedding booking blueprint was 11 K we made in that first launch with a six month old.

41:06So I'm proud of that. We almost 4X our investment on DCA. So the numbers and like the ROI in that sense was just a no brainer. But really Jenna, the true ROI now is that freedom that I have from pivoting this business. And I literally getting goosebumps now because I thought I had freedom before, like it's almost been a decade since I've been out of my nine to five. So, you know, we can make our own schedule and, you know, take a day off if we want to go to the zoo, you know, like all the things that entrepreneurs can do and why we started our business. But the freedom that I have now is unlike anything I experienced because as a service-based entrepreneur, I was still, you know, I had to be the one tying the ribbon on the invitations.

41:54I had to be the one at the coffee shop meeting the couple after hours, you know, but now, So, I mean, you know, like there's just so much more freedom in this online, you know, business and pivoting the business and what our life looks like today with our family and, you know, our circumstances. It's like, I could have never known this in 2020, but it was like, I'm winking back to the universe. Like, thank you for giving me that little tug because it's just like, just full circle now. I'm so glad you brought this up because it's so easy to talk about the money, right? But like even last night, Drew and I were talking and I'm like, I basically run a multimillion dollar business in about four hours a day because every day when Quinn goes down for her nap, I go and hang out with my daughter Coco.

42:40And like that gives Drew time to himself. And I'm like, basically from nine to one is when I run my business. And it's just incredible in the sense of like, I was telling Amy Porterfield yesterday, we were voice memoing and I got emotional about school starting and all these different things. And I said, but there's one thing I won't regret. I feel like we are so awake to the blessing and the lives of our children that I have zero regrets about missing out on things with them. And that is such a privilege to be able to say that because of the freedom that the business has created. So I love that you're touching on that.

43:14And I also just think about Jameson and I'm like, he has such a different existence of his mom through this different avenue of work. What would you say, Lindsay? Let's say you're telling your best friend who's brilliant at what they do. They're super gifted. You've seen their genius. Maybe they don't see it themselves. And they're thinking, there's no way I could create an online course. What would you say to them? I would say, so I know we talk a lot about like imposter syndrome and it's kind of like the buzzword. To be honest, I never really had imposter syndrome building my business until like really recently when I've gotten on like, you know, bigger stages, bigger arenas, it's like creeping up on me.

43:55But I know it's a real thing. So I was actually on a call. I'm like blanking on who said that now, but I was on a call and they said, next time you ask yourself, like, who am I to do this? Flip who am I to why not me? And I use that. I was like, I need like literally a post-it note on my computer here. And that is what I would say. The first thing of like the hurdle, just getting started and thinking about doing this. And also another fear, this was more the fear that I had going into it. like the tech and like, just like, how do I actually do this? And that, I think a lot of people think about the, how, like, how do I set this up?

44:35How am I going to reach people? How are people going to know about my course? And that DCA covers like all of that. So that, like, I was all worried about that, but I could literally follow it was Amy's plan to a T like I was launching this course with like no sleep, throw up on my shirt, like six months old, you know what I mean? And I'm like, all right, like I'm holding on to everything Amy says and doing exactly what she does. And I could launch it that way. So I think if I was to tell someone going into this, don't worry about the how like Amy's got you worry about when the thoughts come up of like, who am I to do this?

45:12I'm not an expert. Just switch that and say, why not me? And also focus on the people that you want to serve and remember why you got that inkling in your heart to do this, because I'm telling you in the most unexpected way, it'll come back around when you're a couple of years into this and you'll see like, Oh, that's why I have this calling. That's why. So that's what I would say because what life looks like now. So Jameson fast forward. So he was born a week into DCA. We called him our DCA baby in the group. And he sent him like adorable onesie. It was really cute. But fast forward. So right before his second birthday, he was actually diagnosed with autism and he is going to be three next month.

45:56So right now is critical in his services and his development and his growth. So when we got a script for his therapy, it's almost 30 hours a week. So my schedule was cut in half. Like it was like a no brainer, whatever we have to do, you know, we'll figure it out. But looking back, like I cannot imagine, and I still was an entrepreneur. So I still had more freedom than nine to five, but like in half, I couldn't imagine juggling that now. So looking back, it's like, just trust yourself, trust yourself because there is a reason why you have this little inkling to pivot your business or even start your business.

46:35If you're still at your nine to five, because looking back, I'm like, I'm making more money now and working half the time. And you have the flexibility to choose that. And I, I feel like we don't talk enough about, especially for people who are starting families and stuff for women to have the ability to choose to hit the brake pedal without the fear of forgetting where the gas pedal is. And I feel like that is such a blessing that we don't talk about enough is like, yeah, you could cut back to half right now, but you know, you could also go full steam ahead a few years from now. And that piece is like such a presence in your life.

47:12Lindsay, where can everybody find out more about you learn about your program, check you out online, see cute pictures of your kid. Give me all the places. Absolutely. So you can find me on Instagram at miss Lindsay J. Williams. And then I also have a private Facebook group for any wedding pro listening that wants to check that out. It's called build and scale your wedding business. And you can find at lindsayjwilliams.com slash group. Linz, I have absolutely loved just watching you soar. And as much as you are a fan of me, I'm a fan of you. So thank you so much for coming on and sharing your experience.

47:46It has been such a joy to watch you grow, watch your family grow, and just watch this business go to new heights that I don't think you had ever even dreamed possible at one point. Thank you so much, Jenna. Always such a pleasure. You are amazing. And Lucy, I am so excited to have this conversation with you today. Can you provide a little bit of context? Because I love the niche that you are serving, and I think it is so inspiring. So tell me a little bit about you and who you serve. Thank you. So I'm thrilled to be here. My name is Lucy Kelly. I am a marketing coach for makers at Bloom by Bellmanili in Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania.

48:23And a little bit of background about me. I wear a lot of different hats. I have a background in marketing. I am a pediatric speech and language pathologist in another part of my life. I make jewelry. I've had my jewelry business since 2010. And as my jewelry business started to grow and I started to fall into my niche of upcycling vintage costume jewelry, I had a lot of other makers and business owners asking me for business coaching. So I looked around and figured out that there actually was not a whole lot of business coaching that was out there specifically for makers because we kind of get lumped into this, you know, glitter and glue time at the library category.

49:05So it's sometimes hard to be taken seriously as a business owner when you're a maker. So that's kind of what led me to where I am today. I love who you teach because there are so many people out there who are so passionate about what they do, but they consider it a little hobby or a tiny business. And what you do is you empower them to see this as a legitimate, profitable business. And I just cannot go on without saying how powerful that is and just how transformative. So did you see yourself as someone who would someday teach a course or teach other people? How did that kind of come into your life?

49:46Okay. So no, I did not. If I did, I probably would have chosen a different business name. My business name is Bell Manili for my jewelry business. And I always have to explain it and I always have to spell it. So no, I did not see that. But as we all know, the life that we plan and the life that we have are never the same life. And that's totally cool. So how I got to be at the place where I'm teaching, like I said, I've had this long kind of weird winding road of experiences and trainings and things like that. And you never know until you get to your destination how they're all linked together.

50:17But it's like so weird. My undergraduate degree is in marketing, started out selling copiers, hated that, moved to selling insurance, hated that, went back to grad school for speech pathology, loved that, specialized in working with little kids. So when someone says, you know, my two-year-old's not talking, that's my circle of genius. So all of those things kind of came together. And then in 2010, I was going to turn 30 that year. So I was like, I want to learn some extra hobbies. I'm working all the time. I finished graduate school. I've had my job for a couple of years and I want to learn things.

50:49So I took some classes. I took sewing, I took quilting and I took jewelry making and the sewing and quilting, not for me, but the jewelry making took. So, so then I started making and it was fun. I had extra fun things to do on the side with my hands. And in Pittsburgh in particular, there is a very artist friendly community. I think most cities actually have this, but I feel like Pittsburgh is just one of those great little cities where we're like a small, big town, big, small town. Like everybody's very artist friendly. It's, it's, it's a good place to be an artist and a maker. So I had opportunities to sell my things, which was cool.

51:23Like getting paid for the stuff you make, be it a course, be it a thing, be it an idea, always awesome, no matter what it is. So I had people that were asking me, like, can you coach me? Or how did you do this? How did you grow your business? How are you selling all of this? How is this working? and I knew that I didn't have the bandwidth to do one-on-one coaching because I had my daughter in 2016. I have this business. I was still working full-time. So I knew I couldn't do that. But I remember, like I've heard people like, oh, people are doing classes and people are doing courses and people are doing this online.

51:56They can figure it out. I can probably figure that out. So I had a friend who was a blogger and she created a course. So I messaged her and I said, hey, when you made your course, like how'd you learn how to do that? Where did you go to learn how to do that? Because I had this, again, weird niche of, I know marketing, went to school for marketing, did that. I know education. I've been teaching children. I am excellent at nonverbal communication because that's what I assess in children. So I can do this. I just need to know how to put it together. I need to know the lingo. I need to know the tech.

52:28And the funny thing is her answer should have been, I took Amy Porterfield's course because I found out later, but the answer was, oh, I have a course teaching that. So I bought her course because she was my friend. which was not a bad investment. It just was not the best investment. So that led me to then, actually, I listened when I would set up at shows, I would listen to your podcast. And that was how I heard about Amy. And I'm like, oh, this is what she took to learn. So that was like how I got to be in a place where I'm like, okay, I have this knowledge and I have this skill and other people want this thing.

53:03And this piece right here is the piece that will let me put all of that together. Yes. Oh, I feel like that is something that's so huge. And you made a really good point of like, I could not teach one-on-one to every single person. I think a lot of people find themselves in those situations where they have this gift. They don't have the bandwidth or the wherewithal to really make that thing viable. What was your first course launch like? You have all this background. You have all this knowledge. What was the launch like? The launch was, so I took my notes here. So I'll tell you exactly what the launch was like.

53:36So So I launched, and this is a crazy thing. I was DCA fall of 2019. So I was launching the course, which then was called Get Online, Grow Online. And I was launching it in January of 2020. And the premise of the course was makers who go to craft shows, making the most of your time at craft shows, building your email list, warming up your audience and selling. So like, I remember recording my course and like recording the email marketing module and saying, imagine what would happen if your best show of the year got canceled. Cause I used to do the country living magazines fair and it was getting canceled.

54:10And I made a big bulk of my money there. And little did I know that come March, every show for the next year and a half would be canceled. So people who relied on making their money at their local art fair were suddenly without any possibility of making money anywhere else. They had no way to make any money. So my first launch was in January of 20 when things were just starting to, you know, there were whispers of things going on. so I had enrolled eight students in that one it was at 197 so I had a total gross revenue of $1 ,576 which I was thrilled with and the funny thing is I hear people who will say oh you know my course launch was a bust I only made a thousand dollars I only made two thousand dollars I only made five hundred dollars but I was thrilled because eight people had trusted me enough to learn from me and they gave me money for that.

54:59So that's fantastic. And I learned, you know, I ran some ads. So my profit overall was$748, which I was still happy with. I had 98 webinar registrants that first time. So I had a conversion rate of 8.16%, which I at the time was not at all tracking and had no clue, but where I am today, I'm like, yeah. So you have since launched 12 more times. You have launched 13 times in total as of the date of this recording. What does it look like now? So now it looks a lot different. Now it is the marketing school for makers. The price is higher. The message has been refined. The program has been refined.

55:40So looking at my email list. So when I started, I had zero email lists. You had the bonus to learn how to grow from, I think it was the zero to two 50. Yes. Which works by the way, I highly recommend it works. Now I have a little over 22 ,000 email subscribers. I regularly scrub the list. So it is a solid list of engaged subscribers who open and read and comment back. So that's great. And then my community, I have a free community of a little over 15 ,000 makers that is just specific for handmade business owners, not for hobbyists. Well, hobbyists are welcome, but you know, we talk about making money.

56:15So what it looks like today is when I launch, I usually have any, depending on the ads that I run and the outreach that I do, I have anywhere from 10 to 15 ,000 webinar registrants. So in the last, now the last launch I did was small. This one is going to be a bigger one that's coming up, but I usually get anywhere from like two to 300 students coming in. So we were working on scaling and the program has been really refined, but now consistently the people who are going through are, you know, you get this really great side effect of like, they make money, which you want, but then they're also really confident in themselves.

56:53They're confident to ask a higher price for their product, which is probably still underpriced because it's handmade. They're confident to put themselves out to apply for shows they wouldn't have applied for. They're confident enough to share their story and their process and their thoughts on social media to engage with other people where they weren't doing that before. So if nothing else, it is empowering women in particular and makers to be proud of what they make and put it out into the world unapologetically and be rewarded either financially or socially for doing that. One thing you said, Lucy, that I don't want people to miss is that every time you've done it, you've gotten better and everything has evolved.

57:36And I think that a lot of times we are so afraid to be beginners because it's not perfect. And I have had the same experience where now I've been able to launch the same course year after year after year, the course gets better. I get better just as your students are gaining that confidence. So are you in the process. And I just love that because it's such a reminder that like your first course is not going to be your last one and you're going to grow along the way, which is exactly what you have done. Lucy, where can everybody find out more about you? Watch you soar, check out your products, be in your community, Give us all of the places.

58:12Okay, thank you. So you can find me online at Bloom by Bell Manili and I am at Bloom by Bell Manili on all socials. You can visit my program at themarketingschoolformakers.com. I have emails that I send out weekly. I will be launching. I usually launch three times a year. And in my community, it's a great place for makers who want to make money to come and learn the basics, find other people that are like you and get started in a nice, warm community. One final question. If somebody is listening to this and they're thinking, can this work for me or should I make a leap and join DCA? What would you say?

58:50Absolutely. Absolutely do it. I love it. Thank you so much. You are just a joy. I don't know about you, but I feel so inspired after hearing these amazing entrepreneur stories. I love how they are each serving different demographics, with knowledge that they possess, creating communities, expanding their reach. And I also just want to reiterate that, yes, they have made money doing this. They have made back their investment tenfold. But beyond that, I loved how each and every single one of them talked about the other aspects that so easily get lost in the sea of people just wanting to make money.

59:31Freedom, community, confidence, time. Those things have undoubtedly changed my life and digital courses are the reason why I have all of those things and so much more. I am so grateful that Amy Porterfield came into my life years and years and years ago as my online business crush and mentor before she even knew who I was. And I'm even more grateful to support her and partner with her in this course launch of her Digital Course Academy because it absolutely changed my life and so many of my students' lives. I loved hearing these stories today. I hope you are feeling inspired just like I am and I hope you are ready to step out, take a leap of faith and start to understand that you can extract your knowledge in a way that will allow people to see true transformation in their lives and then undoubtedly transform yours.

1:00:23If you wanna check out more about DCA or learn about my bonus that is a baller, head to jennacutcher.com forward slash DCA. That's jennacutcher.com forward slash DCA to learn more about the program and my bonuses that I am excited to share with you. Again, that is jennacutcher.com forward slash DCA. Thank you so much for listening to this episode of the podcast. Of course, until next time, keep on digging your biggest goals. I'm over here giving you a virtual high five because you just finished another episode of the Gold Digger Podcast. Did that go by way too fast for anyone else? If you want more, head over to golddiggerpodcast.com for show notes and all the discount codes from today's sponsors.

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