805: The Case For Taking A Break (And The Unexpected Ways You Can Heal)

28:46I kind of want to give a little bit of context to that because that was the mindset that I was in. I studied brand management in university and I remember my brand management professor. He kind of gave us this lesson where the mistake that a lot of companies make is when they see a product line that's struggling. The first thing that they do is they cut the budget. And I remember Professor Silk screaming at us saying, if you want something to grow, you need to feed the pig, feed the pig. That's all he said. and that has really resonated with me like in my business journey as I think back on is whatever you focus on grows and so it's important to cut your losses if it's something that you do not want for it to grow because for me I built an eight million dollar business in four years but that was because I just kept feeding this pig that I didn't even want in the first place but it got to like four years later, where now suddenly a viral YouTube video had turned into a multimillion dollar business with all these employees, with all these clients and just all these things that at the time I felt like I couldn't get out of.

30:00But knowing the understanding of like, stop feeding the pig, I'm like, something has to stop. And so if I don't rip the bandaid and make the uncomfortable decision to walk away, this is never going to end. And so that's ultimately the decision of like why I did such a drastic exit. Ideally, most people, perhaps it's not that drastic. And in actuality, maybe it's a portion of your business that's not aligned, not the whole thing. Maybe it's product line, like you mentioned, or a certain offer. But for me personally, in my journey, it was the entire thing. And so what I ended up doing was once I made the decision, the first thing that I did was I needed to calculate the cost.

30:51Like how much is my piece worth? How much is this actually going to cost to me to remove all these things? So I talked to an HR consultant because I had a team, give me an estimate of like what a very generous severance package would look like and then I also made calculations of like okay my mastermind had just started what would it look like to refund every single customer even though I had already poured in a lot of money and resources and time into it but how much would it cost for me to refund everybody I had that calculation Okay, now how much would it cost if I stopped like running the Boss Graham Academy, which was my course that was doing, you know, that was enrolling clients every single month.

31:36And then I asked myself, how much money do I realistically need to live? what are my lifestyle expenses? Something that I had never thought about before, which is crazy. I didn't ever think about what is actually enough. Like, and so when I did the calculation, it was eyeopening to realize that I actually don't need that much. And it was in that moment where I was like, I actually never really needed to launch this mastermind in the first place. I actually never really needed to enroll all these customers every single month into my course. I actually have enough. And so when I saw it from that perspective, it was a lot more empowering to know that I'll be safe.

32:26And that's a very privileged position to be in. And that's why my biggest advice too, for a lot of business owners is do not immediately spend all the money that you make. You never know what the future is going to look like. You never know if you want to take a break. You never know if like the platform that you're selling your services on disappears one day. You need to have cash and bank for these moments. And I was so grateful that I did. And I realized, yes, my piece is worth this much. okay I am I am obsessed with all this and you know it's interesting because I'm a bit older than you by a little bit but I but I feel like it's so interesting because I have a really old soul in that I've been in so many rooms like the rooms you're talking about when you get into them and I always am asking myself is more better is more better because I think that that is such a good question.

33:24And when you don't know your enough point and your safety point, more is always appealing, right? It always sounds so good. It always sounds so great. And I have sat down with so many peers in our industry who have bigger businesses and make more money who say, Oh, I would do anything to go back to a team of 10 or, Oh, I would die to be able to like take summers off or things like that. And it's so interesting. And I'll never forget coming home from a mastermind where like I was meeting my heroes. Right. And Drew and I are sitting on the floor in front of the TV, watching like Bravo, eating like terrible takeout sushi from Minnesota.

34:02And he said, how was it? And I said, I'm not the richest person in the room, but I'm the happiest. And that is the metric that I've always tried to enter those rooms. Not that happiness is a contest, but that like peace and happiness to me is like the metric of success. But how did you get there? Like, I'm so curious if I could ask. Oh, of course. I think like, yeah. Yeah. Cause I see you, like, I've obviously followed you for a long time. You were a big part of my personal journey of why I quit. And I'm like, I've seen your Instagram. I've seen you like, you know, rubbing shoulders with really powerful, like big people in the space.

34:40Right. How have you like maintained that? Like, was it, were you always like that? Were you always like, you know what, I'm just, I'm happy with happiness. Like this is enough for me. Or did you also have to learn like a similar lesson that I did? I think both because so to me, I have always been debt averse. And so we have been so lucky to like, as I've earned money, we've been able to pay cash for everything. I don't ever want to owe anyone anything because to me that feels like the opposite of the freedom that I crave, especially as an entrepreneur. But I also feel like so many people are rich in their bank accounts and bankrupt in their lives.

35:20And it's so easy to see that, right? When you are with people like that, and the more that I peek behind the curtains of powerful people, the more that I realize they are chasing something that they will never find. And so it's really interesting because when I, this is why I resonated so deeply with your story. Like you were my dream guest to come on this show is because when I saw what you did in your year off, it was more than what entrepreneurs that are obsessed with more will never experience in their lifetime. What you accomplished in a year of taking that time off and how you found yourself.

36:00it's so interesting to me because I think that I've talked about finding your enough point for years and years and years and the way that I've been able to pivot so many times from being a wedding photographer to a podcaster to online course creator is getting really clear about what is my enough point and like what do I actually need and I think that's helped combat that more is better mentality that so many people have. Because for me, and now for you, time is our currency, right? You were willing to trade all of that money that it took for you to claim back your freedom to have your time back.

36:38And so I just think it's so powerful when you recognize that because for so long, especially when you're starting a business, we're chasing money. And when And we really recognize that time is life. And that is what we want more of. It changes everything. So your story is just like, hit me in my soul because I have seen so many women, especially build businesses that aren't the dream and that aren't what they would define success as. And as their lives and their values shift, they find themselves almost hating what they've built. And that's not what we want. Yeah. And so I love how you're showing up and teaching the different ways.

37:19So let's talk about the rebuild. So actually first, let's talk about your year off. What did you do? And like, how did this achiever driven rule following people, please, or girl learn how to find joy outside of work? Oh my gosh. You know, it's funny because whenever I get this question of like, what did you do? I'm off. My mind always goes blank. Cause I'm like, what did I do? I did nothing. I watched Netflix. I slept for 12 hours a day. And I used to be ashamed of that story of like, I didn't do anything. Like people think like, Oh, you probably want on this, like eat, pray, love. And yeah, you probably did a lot, like use that time to personally improve yourself.

38:01I'm like, no, I rested because that is what my body needed. So in doing that, I learned a lot about health though. So what I learned about health was I did not realize how much stress my body was actually carrying for years. For years and years and years, my body had been trained to manage a certain level of stress out of survival. Right. And you can kind of tell if you look at my old videos, like, you know, my face is a bit puffier. I have more like in real life. I had more like anxious energy, like just like talking a mile a minute and just like always like, you know, your body tells you these things, but you ignore them, but it will show you the stress that you've been holding onto.

38:46And so when I finally took that break, the sabbatical and like released everything, my body, I needed to sleep 12 hours a day for like half of my sabbatical, because that was the amount of sleep debt that I had accumulated for years. And I also got really sick a lot of the times during my sabbatical because it almost felt like my body was purging and releasing all of the stress and all of the tension and all of the things that I had accumulated for years. And so seeing like the contrast and like seeing like, oh my gosh, like this is actually what my body is feeling, but I don't let myself feel that way.

39:27Like my head is just like, no, no, no, no, push it away. Push it away. Let's survive. Let's, let's hustle. Let's make money. Let's sign clients. Let's do what you need to do to get things done. I realized that this is the result of not taking enough breaks in general, because if you, let's say actually took your weekends as weekends, or maybe took a week off every month, I don't think that you'd be in a position that I was where for half a year, I was sleeping for 12 hours a day and could not move and was sick. and so that taught me a lot about health and the importance of it and so now I make sure that if I'm feeling like unwell I will take that day off or I will not work and the sabbatical was so great because it gave me evidence that taking breaks is a good thing like I realized that I never created enough evidence for myself that taking a break and saying no was actually a safe thing to do before I would think if I take a break, I'm going to lose everything.

40:32If I say no, this opportunity will never come on my lap again, because that's the immigrant mindset that you are just so grateful that someone noticed you and that you are so grateful that like this opportunity came and you better take advantage of it because you'll never get it again. And that's like something that my parents always kind of instilled in me because they were immigrants and they're just grateful to be in this country. Right. But that doesn't serve you in business. That doesn't serve you where you've proven your worth. And so I realized that like all of that was going on. And that was a big reason why I just never felt safe to take a break.

41:09But then when I took that year off, yeah, of course I was a little bit nervous. Like if I come back, what's going to happen? Like, do I have to rebuild everything? But actually when I came back, so many people were so excited. Like, like it did not hurt anything. If anything helped, I got way more creative. I got just way more open and chill and calm. People love this version of me. And so I have now created evidence for myself that, whoa, if I can take a year off and still survive and like thrive actually, taking a week off is nothing to me. Taking a month off is nothing to me. So I've built up that evidence for myself.

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44:06I am such a homebody at heart, but I love when travel reminds me just how beautiful it is to step outside of our routine. For the kids fall break, we booked a stay on a small farm near Nashville through Airbnb, and it was one of the most memorable trips we've taken this year. We met donkeys, goats, and pigs, and the kids got to pick peppers in their greenhouse. Watching them run around the farm, getting their hands dirty and laughing the whole time was such a joy. It was peaceful. It was full of those little moments that literally just make you pause and feel connected. That trip reminded me why I love using Airbnb.

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45:27And I agree with you so much, Vanessa. And I think it absolutely your immigrant background plays into this. But I also think it's universal for women to think that we need to wait for somebody to give us a big break. And we can't say no, because this could be the big break. It's like the little girls who anytime you meet someone, you're like, this could be my partner. This could be the one like, oh my gosh, we just had a meet cute in a coffee shop. This is it. Like we tell ourselves these stories out like someone else needs to hand this to us. And I know even for me, when I became a mom, there was this innate feeling of like momentum.

46:04Like if I slow down, the trajectory will slow down. The momentum will slow down. And I really had to realize and learn how to trust that I can hit the brake pedal and trust myself to remember where the gas is. And I feel like that was a huge takeaway of like, I know where the gas is and I know how to push it if I need it. And I know also to say no, if it's not necessary. And the more women I meet, it is interesting how it's almost like we get on this hamster wheel and just keep running faster and faster and faster and faster. because of those lies, right? I feel like I love what you've said. And I also feel like grateful to be able to share my story because at the same time of us being so afraid to slow down and thinking that it's gonna hurt us and our business, I am also an example of what it looks like to do things like a mile a minute and then still get a bad result, which is I'm unhealthy.

47:01I feel like I'm dying. And I had to refund everybody. I had to just do this whole public thing in front of the whole internet of me showing that I cannot keep up with the business that I build. So, you know, in either spectrum you lose. Yes. Yes. Okay. So let's talk about how people can win because one of the things that I have loved about your comeback and something that I just admire so much is your authenticity and your ability to redefine success and say, Hey, what I was doing in the past was authentic to me then. However, it is no longer aligned. And I think one of the hardest things is as we learn, sometimes we look back at our old selves and we're like, you got it wrong, girl, you got it wrong.

47:48And that can be really humbling because in those moments we thought we were right. And so what made you come back and like, how have you approached this re-entry with the new lens, the new idea, the new foundation? Yeah, that's a great question. I think it's important not to shame ourselves because I shamed myself for a while of like, oh, I suck. Like I made such bad decisions. Like, why did I do that? Like, I'm such an idiot. Like just that self-talk is just so toxic, I realized like I still honor my early, like my 20 year old self that made those decisions because genuinely at the time, that's what I valued.

48:26And I think if anyone takes anything from listening to this story and our conversation is slow down enough so that you can be in tune with whether or not your values have changed and give yourself enough space to readjust certain parts of the business that do not meet those values anymore. I think we keep thinking that we are going to be the same person for the rest of our lives and have the same ambitions. And I admit it's hard sometimes to feel like you're disappointing your past self and your past vision board that you did five years ago, that you're going to be this multi multi millionaire and be on the Forbes cover and have a 1 million subscriber YouTube channel.

49:03I know it can be hard to disappoint that version of you, but that version of you is also holding you back from like growing and finding this like new identity that you're stepping into because that's just the process of, of growth. Right. And so that's something that I feel is really important to say from the get go for me, I realized that I wanted to come back because my partner, Leon, he actually asked me the question of, okay, imagine you have all the money in the world. What would you be doing? And I'm like, honestly, I would do the same thing that I was doing before, but just differently.

49:42Yeah. And I learned that I was actually, I had the best job in the world. Like I had, like, this was my dream job to make videos, to write, to express my thoughts, to connect with other people. All of that was actually what I've always wanted in a career, but I was just in the wrong team. I was in the wrong department. I was in the wrong company. It's the same thing as like loving your role, loving the activities that you do, but being in the wrong company culture or being in the, like having the wrong manager or like, you know what I mean? And so it, it didn't necessarily need me to be like, I'm going to go back to a nine to five, or I'm going to do a complete career switch.

50:21It was recognizing, I actually have the power to change the narrative a little bit and change the environment. And I'm so grateful now because I'm almost like rebuilding my business with a new set of values that I now recognize and also like business wisdom that I accumulated in my twenties. And so I want to share some like switches that I've done just to allow people to kind of feel the difference. So yes, number one, back then, I think because I built my business in my twenties, like your twenties is your first decade of being an adult. And I remember in my twenties, the energy was always like, oh my gosh, this is never going to happen again, or I'm in a rush, or I need to figure all these things out like ASAP.

51:07Right. And I think that led me to rush through decisions a lot because I always felt like if I didn't figure it out in time, then I would be a failure. But now like looking back at that decade, I'm like, I figured out everything just fine. And whenever I thought that I was never going to figure something out, I ended up doing that. And now going into my thirties and building this business. I now have that wisdom of patience. Yeah. And that's really beautiful because now I'm like, I'm not in a rush to launch something. I'm not in a rush to like figure out the direction of my channel. That is all going to fall into place as I just authentically share my journey, my lessons, what feels right in the moment.

51:50And one thing I also learned about myself that I think is very important to share with other people is I recognize that I, even though I was an entrepreneur, I was still an employee. I had an employee mindset through and through. And what I mean by employee mindset is we have been conditioned ever since the industrial revolution to work for a monthly paycheck. Right. And so when you feel pressure to make money every single month, you are going to rush decisions. You are going to accept things that you don't actually like or want to do, but because you want to make that monthly paycheck, you're just going to say yes to.

52:35And that leads you to saying yes to a lot of unaligned opportunities just for the sake of making money. So let's say you have a client and you're like, Oh, but you know, I'm not hitting my target this month that I'm just going to take on this client. That's not an actual good fit because I want to feel safe in getting that monthly paycheck. And so, yeah, you're nodding. I feel like we've all been there, but now in this new season of me building my business, this new era that I'm in, I'm transitioning my mind from an employee mindset to an investor mindset and how an investor thinks now, or at least how I think now is, well, I actually don't think I need to feel that pressure for a monthly paycheck.

53:18What if I took a month off to invest in my health, to invest in my creativity. And by taking that month off, I'm able to make my entire year's worth of income in just one week with a launch. What if, and that like changed my perspective on the pace that I work now, because I have the previous experience that rushing doesn't help you with anything. And now trusting that I don't need to work for a monthly paycheck. I am, I'm being patient and I'm being disciplined in waiting for that moment where I'm able to like make everything I want that is enough in one go. And so that's kind of like one of the really big shifts that I've, I've really instilled in myself now in this new season of business.

54:09it's having that patience. Yeah. Oh, I love that. And I feel like I can feel the wisdom oozing out of you. Well, I had a year to think about this. So I mean, but it's so it's so true. And it's so beautiful and honorable. And I think what's so exciting about your comeback and like why I'm just so obsessed with watching it unfold is you are literally just taking people on the journey and it's going back to your roots, right? It's like you, you kind of killed the content factory. Even in one of the videos, you're like, I signed the sponsor. And then all of a sudden I like got stuck trying to create the content and I just canceled the sponsor.

54:52That's not what I wanted to do. And yeah, I walked away from$200 ,000 worth of sponsorships. Cause I was like, wait, I'm noticing this pattern again. Yeah. I am chasing this monthly paycheck because these sponsors help me feel safe. But as a result, if I'm making content for other people that I don't even want to make, I'm taking away time away from like me creating content that's going to attract the people I actually want to serve and sell to or to like, you know, nurture, you know, you can't have everything. And so thank you for bringing that up because I think that was also a moment where I had this aha moment of like, oh, actually.

55:30I'm going down the trap again. Yeah. like I feel it. And I think what's so interesting too, is that like, as you are an entrepreneur for anybody listening, you are constantly learning and evolving and you are constantly stepping back into the same traps, right? It's like, anytime you think you've overcome something, the universe or God is going to give you an opportunity to be like, you sure, you sure you got this. And I think that you what's so beautiful is that like, every time you're tested, you get stronger in that conviction and you get more clarity in what that is for you. And so it's just been so awesome to see your vulnerability and to see you be willing to step away to recalibrate.

56:15Was there ever a time where you thought I'm not coming back? Like I'm done. You know, we call it a sabbatical, but back then I'm not going to lie. I was like, I don't know if it's a sabbatical. Like, I don't know I'm quitting, retiring, sabbaticaling. Like I really did not know, but I, what I did know was I think it was around, I want to say like month nine of my sabbatical now called a sabbatical. Yes. I was just so bored. Like I was like, okay, I'm working out every day. I'm watching Netflix. I'm like walking outside with my dog. And like in the beginning was nice. And I was also traveling a lot, but it got to a place where I'm like, I am so bored.

56:54Like I, I can see why people say retirement is overrated because I just missed having that like purpose. And I missed having that, like, I'm going to wake up in the morning and like do stuff. And like, I feel like I'm doing something meaningful and I feel like I'm, and so I really do see my recovery in stages. Like the first stage was absolutely just letting my body rest the way that it needed to repeat some relationships that like I had neglected because back then I felt like I spent more time with industry peers than I did my own friends and family, which really showed me like, whoa, this is not the way to do things because now where I need people the most, the only people that are here for me are my friends and family that knew me before the business.

57:43Right. And then the next phase was like, okay, now I'm going to do everything that's on my bucket list. I'm going to travel. I went to so many places. And then I was like, okay, now what, now what, like, what is the meaning of this? And so that's why I came back because I'm like, I still have this itch to create. It's something that I've always wanted to do, but the burnout made me like fall out of love with it. And I just had to heal myself first in order to like really fall back into my art. Where can everybody find you and connect with you and follow your journey now? I cannot recommend your YouTube channel enough.

58:20I was literally telling Vanessa before, like I went through my texts and just typed in her name and saw how many people I'd sent her video out to, because I just thought it needed to be a part of a universal conversation among women about burnout and building something that suits you and your definition of success. So where can everybody find you? Yeah, they can find me on my YouTube channel, Vanessa Lau. And that's where you can really see like the evolution of my content. But what I would recommend is people to actually follow me along on my newsletter. It's the creator journal. So the creator journal.co that's where it's, I treat it as my diary and I'm really updating people on like what's really going on behind the scenes.

58:59What I have learned on this journey. And I want to mention, like, make sure I say this so that people know is as I'm coming back to my business, I now realize that we underestimate the power of depth. Back then I ran my business just focusing on volume more and more and more. And my business model reflected that as well. I was selling courses. I need to make sure I have like all these new customers coming in and, you know, I need to make sure that it's every single month. And so that put a lot of pressure on my YouTube channel to feel like every video needs to be selling something in order to get more, more, more, more, more, more customers.

59:41But what I want to make sure that your listeners know about is the power of depth. You actually don't need that much to build a quote unquote successful business and success is defined on your terms. That's also really important. So for example, if you had a thousand people who love you so much, who celebrate you for who you are, who like literally like just want to be in your proximity all the time because they are so obsessed. They feel so seen by you. If a thousand people were willing to pay a hundred dollars a month just to get support from you, that is a hundred thousand dollars a month. That is a$1.2 million business just with a thousand people.

1:00:25But the problem is a lot of us, we don't think$1.2 million is enough. We don't think a hundred thousand dollars a month is enough. That's more than some people make in a year. And so when I thought about this and realizing like very similar to our conversation of like monetary, like I actually don't need that much money to like live a good life. I also realized I don't need that many subscribers or viewers. Like if they come into my community, I welcome them with open arms, but I actually don't need that much. And instead I'm going to focus on nurturing the 1000 people that like our rider dies.

1:01:06And that's why I started my newsletter. It all links back to this. Don't worry. That's why I started my newsletter. In the beginning, I had 200 ,000 people on my email list. And when I came back, I let it all go. And I restarted my newsletter from scratch in order for me to build a tribe of people who love me for me, who are down to read the content that I write, who are down to like, love me for who I am in this season right And it has felt so much better running my business and approaching my brand in this way. For those of you who resonate with my story, my newsletter is really where I pour into really where I share where I'm at in my journey.

1:01:52And so I welcome everyone to subscribe and to read my newsletter at the creator journal.co. Vanessa, you are amazing. Thank you for all of our listeners. She has not really gone public with this story on anyone else's platform. So it just means so much to hear this from you and host this conversation. And just thank you for your willingness to go first in a lot of ways that a lot of women are watching. And it's just making such an impact. Thank you for having me. I think like there's honestly so much more I could be like, you know I have this like whole year worth of like wisdom that I'm like have been holding in and so I'm very grateful to be on this podcast I think this podcast has done amazing things for a lot of women including myself I would not have quit my job if I was not listening to your mac and cheese intro like seven years ago and listening to how you turned like a small camera that you bought into the empire that you've built today and it feels so good to to speak with someone who shares similar values to me.

1:02:53And so I really thank you for offering me this space. I think we'll just have to do a part two. That's what I'm proposing. Oh, we absolutely need to. Amen. This was such a powerful interview for me because I've just been so inspired by Vanessa's boldness to take a step back and reevaluate, especially at such a young age. And my mission is to help you build a business that you don't hate so you can live a life that you love. That is as honest as I can get. And so watching her acknowledge and realize that while successful, it wasn't a business that fueled her that she wanted to build her life around.

1:03:30I love that she was brave enough to take a step back. And I sincerely hope that you my listener don't have to get to that point to create such a massive decision that you have to make. I hope that you can see yourself reflected in her story and mine. And I am just so appreciative that you are here and along this ride with us. Thank you so much for listening to another episode of the Gold Digger podcast. Until next time, keep on digging your biggest goals, but don't forget to take a break. Thanks for pulling up a seat for another episode of the Gold Digger podcast. I hope today's episode filled you with inspiration, gave you information that you can turn into action, and realigned you with your true north in life and business.

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