How Japan’s new prime minister is jolting markets

3 Dec 2025 · 9 min

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How Japan’s New Prime Minister is Jolting Markets

Episode Overview In this episode, the hosts discuss the impact of Japan's newly appointed Prime Minister, Sanae Takaichi, who is the first woman to hold this position. The episode delves into her proposed economic strategies, dubbed "Sanaeonomics," aimed at addressing Japan's pressing cost-of-living issues while navigating a complex economic landscape marked by decades of stagnation.

Key Themes and Concepts

  • Economic Context: Japan has battled stagnation since the 1990s, experiencing minimal growth and, at times, deflation. Recently, inflation has started to rise, creating urgency for economic reform.
  • Sanae Takaichi's Leadership Style:
  • Described as "colorful" and "radical," Takaichi has a bold policy agenda.
  • She aims to work tirelessly, discarding the notion of work-life balance.
  • Political Relationships:
  • Takaichi has a positive relationship with former U.S. President Donald Trump, sharing a nationalistic vision.
  • Conversely, her comments regarding Taiwan have strained relations with China.

Economic Strategies

Sanaeonomics

  1. Understanding Current Economic Sentiments:
  2. Interviews reveal public concern over rising costs, with citizens expressing worries about daily expenses.
  3. Common issues mentioned include the cost of groceries, utilities, and overall living expenses.
  1. Potential Government Actions:
  2. Interest Rates: Economists generally agree that inflation control is mainly the responsibility of the central bank (Bank of Japan). Takaichi's preference for lower interest rates may conflict with the need for higher rates to combat inflation.
  3. Fiscal Policy: The current administration favors expansionary fiscal policies, which could exacerbate inflation. A $135 billion stimulus package has been approved, indicating a focus on increased spending rather than austerity.
  1. Increasing Productivity:
  2. A critical avenue for economic improvement is enhancing productivity through investments in infrastructure or technology sectors.
  3. Takaichi’s administration aims to boost exports in industries such as semiconductors while also courting skepticism regarding immigration policies.

Public Reception and Opinions

  • Approval Ratings: Takaichi’s bold approach has resonated positively with many Japanese citizens, resulting in an approval rating of around 70%.
  • Diverse Public Opinions:
  • Some citizens express cautious optimism, hoping for policies that support working families.
  • Others, including those with foreign family members, voice concerns about her nationalist policies and their implications.

Conclusion Sanae Takaichi's early tenure as Prime Minister reflects a mix of optimism and apprehension among the Japanese populace. While her radical policies aim to tackle inflation and economic stagnation, the effectiveness of her strategies remains to be seen, particularly in light of the complex relationship between government policies and central bank independence.

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Production Details

  • Produced by: Angel Carreras, Catherine Yang, Corey Bridges
  • Engineering: Kweisi Lee, Sina Lafredo
  • Fact-checked by: Sierra Juarez
  • Edited by: Kate McCannon

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0:11Japan's economy has been going sideways since the 1990s. Economic growth was barely there, and it was even grappling with deflation, you know, prices falling. But now, for the first time in about 30 years, inflation has started to bite. And that's helped pave the way for a new prime minister with a colorful and radical streak. In October, Sinai Takeichi became leader of the Conservative Liberal Democratic Party, or LDP. She was soon sworn in as Japan's first female prime minister. In one of her early speeches, she said she's throwing away the phrase work-life balance for herself.

0:59She's saying she's throwing away the work-life balance and she would work and work and work. Yes, and Aya Takeji is a little hardcore. As the most indolent member of the Indicator staff, I simply cannot relate. Her secret is, true story, drumming heavy metal. She was also a TV personality and has sung karaoke in front of the nation.

1:25Takeichi is nationalistic and telegenic. So naturally, she and U.S. President Donald Trump got along famously when Trump visited Japan in October. She presented Trump with a gold leaf golf ball and a putter that belonged to the late Japanese Prime Minister Shinzo Abe, who was her mentor. Less positive is Takaichi's relationship with China. Beijing is steaming after her comments on Taiwan. And on Japan's ailing economy, Takaichi's moves have been no less bold. This is The Indicator from Planet Money. I'm Darian Woods. And I'm Weyland Wong. Today on the show, Sanaionomics. We visit the world's fourth largest economy and learn how Sanai Takeichi wants to fix it.

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2:56What's in your wallet? Terms apply. See CapitalOne.com slash bank for details. Capital One N.A. Member FDIC. To better understand whether Sinai Takeichi can reinvigorate the Japanese economy, we have to first make a diagnosis. And we can read Japanese economic indicators all day. Lost 30 years of basically flat incomes, the yen falling. But what does it feel like to live in Japan right now? We hit the streets of Kobe, one of Japan's large cities. Hi, my name is Julie Nguyen. Julie works at a mental health clinic. Things are a bit tight financially recently. I just got divorced and I'm raising four kids and I work for a part-time job.

3:45Julie wasn't happy about rising prices. Everything's increasing so much, like groceries, electricity, like just basic costs for a living. We also spoke with Kanoa Konda, a grad student at Kobe University, and she echoed this complaint. I wish life prices going high. So did Yukihiro Imanari, an advisor at a science and policy network. Basically, we have enough money to live, but you fear the rise of the prices. The people we spoke to had their own views of what they were hoping for from the prime minister. Support for working mothers, more money for scholarships, avoiding immigration crackdowns.

4:29Sounds awfully familiar. Yeah, things like child care, college costs, immigration, and of course, the cost of living. That was the common thread. So what could Sonaya Takeuchi do to combat price rises? As we've talked about before, most economists would agree that politicians don't actually hold the big lever to fight inflation. That's primarily the responsibility of the central bank. Raising interest rates to slow down borrowing and spending in the economy and bring down inflation. So step number one is to get out of the way of the Bank of Japan. The Bank of Japan has been slowly raising interest rates from basically zero, where they were for about two decades.

5:08Yeah, for decades they were struggling to get any inflation and, you know, a small amount is good for an economy. And that return to lifting interest rates has been called normalization. Fumi Gotto is a lecturer in East Asian political economy at the University of Sheffield. The Prime Minister wants slower pace of normalization. Basically, Takaichi wants lower interest rates than the central bank does. Lower interest rates would be the opposite of what's needed to curb inflation. Sure, it could mean cheaper mortgages or car loans, but all that extra borrowing by people and businesses would mean more spending, which would lead to higher prices.

5:47We asked Fumigato whether the prime minister could influence the central bank in Japan. There may be some kind of theoretical independence, but I think it's difficult for the central bank to directly go against what the government wants. It's difficult for the Bank of Japan to go against what the government wants, partly because there's government representatives actually sitting at the table when the central bank makes its decisions. Yeah, those eyeballs are kind of quite intimidating. Oh, yeah. So even though the Bank of Japan is legally independent from the government, the reality is more complex.

6:22You often see the two coordinate policies. So Fumi thinks it could be possible that Takeichi's preferences for lower interest rates could be taken into account. Politicians can do more than get out of the way of the central bank. They can also make the central bank's job easier by taking their foot off the fiscal accelerator. That's step number two. basically pulling back on spending or taxing more, less borrowing. The current administration is more interested in fiscal expansion and then strengthening the military. So the opposite of cutting back. In November, Takaichi's cabinet approved a$135 billion stimulus package.

7:04That means more borrowing and spending. Broadly, this kind of borrowing and spending worsens inflation. There is a third step that could reduce inflation, and that's if Japan's productivity increases. Productivity could be the skeleton key that unlocks not just stable prices, but increased wages too. So it's important. One way to increase productivity could be to invest in infrastructure or industries that allows Japan to make more stuff or be more efficient. Fumi says Takeichi is trying to spend more money to make Japan's exports more competitive in certain industries like semiconductors. So the result of this is to be seen.

7:44Another potential way to increase productivity is increased immigration, bringing more skills and ideas and labor that could grow Japan's businesses. But Fumi says Takeichi is a nationalist, so that's not her first instinct. She would like to restrict the influence of immigrants. So overall, Sunai Takeichi seems like a bold leader, but not one that follows economic orthodoxy. She wants lower interest rates, more spending, less immigration. That explains why investors aren't convinced. The day that Takeichi's big stimulus package was announced, the Japanese Nikkei stock market fell 2.5%. And interest rates on loans to the Japanese government are even higher than they were in the 2008 financial crisis.

8:29The everyday people we heard from in Japan didn't vote for Takeichi directly. Japan has a parliamentary system, so you vote for parties and representatives, not for prime ministers. But these people in Kobe had their views. Julie Wen, the mental health worker and mother, had positive first impressions. She seems strong and reliable. So yeah, hopefully she can help families or working moms. But we also need to see how she actually does. Kanukonda, the graduate student, was more circumspect. I don't know. It's not going to really directly affect my final situation. And Yukihiro Imanari, the science and policy advisor, was less of a Takeichi supporter.

9:24In fact, he was worried. I'm a little bit afraid of this person because I see her on the far right wing of WDP. Because I'm Japanese national, I think I will be fine, but my wife is a foreigner. I could imagine that at some point I would say, oh, let's go away from this country. I cannot do for you anymore. Overall, though, Sinai Takeichi's rambunctious approach is winning over Japanese voters. Takeichi's administration now enjoys around a 70 % approval rating. But with inflation showing no signs of slowing down, we'll see how long that lasts. This episode was produced by Angel Carreras, Catherine Yang and Corey Bridges with engineering by Kweisi Lee and Sina Lafredo.

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From the publisher
Sanae Takaichi was sworn in as Japan’s first female prime minister a little over a month ago, and she’s already making waves in the East and West. The first priority for the people of Japan is if her government can fix the country’s cost-of-living problem. Today on the show, we break down what Sanaeonomics could mean for the Land of the Rising Sun.

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