How the memecoin game is played

10 Feb 2025 · 9 min

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Episode Title

How the Memecoin Game is Played

Episode Description

This episode explores the phenomenon of memecoins, highlighting the story of Peanut the Squirrel, how it became a cryptocurrency, and the broader implications of memecoins in today's economy, including the involvement of public figures like President Trump.

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Key Concepts and Discussions

Introduction

  • Hosts: Waylon Wong and Nick Neves
  • Focus: The rise of memecoins and the associated economic dynamics.
  • Story Highlight: Peanut the Squirrel, whose online fame transformed into a cryptocurrency.

The Story of Peanut the Squirrel

  • Background: Owned by Mark Longo, Peanut was popular on Instagram, known for being dressed in cowboy hats and eating waffles.
  • Controversy: Peanut was confiscated by authorities and subsequently killed during a rabies test.
  • Coin Creation: Following Peanut's death, a cryptocurrency named after him emerged and skyrocketed in value.
  • Public Reaction: The incident drew significant media attention, including mentions by Elon Musk.

Understanding Memecoins

  • Definition: Memecoins are cryptocurrencies inspired by memes, often lacking intrinsic value.
  • Market Dynamics:
  • Value Determination: The worth of memecoins often relies on speculation and market hype.
  • Rug Pulls: A common practice where developers sell off their holdings, leading to price crashes for regular investors.
  • Wash Trading: A technique where prices are artificially inflated by trading between controlled wallets, misleading potential buyers regarding a coin's popularity.

The Blockchain Explained

  • Concept: A decentralized ledger that records transactions.
  • Value Perception: The value of cryptocurrencies like Bitcoin is fundamentally based on what people are willing to pay, rather than tangible backing.

The Role of Public Figures in Memecoins

  • Trump Coin: Associated with Trump, it raised concerns due to more than 80% of its supply being controlled by Trump and his partners, diverging from the ideal of decentralized memecoins.
  • Market Impact: Insiders are likely to sell quickly, thus jeopardizing the coin's value for average investors.

The Cultural Context of Memecoins

  • Financial Nihilism:
  • Concept introduced by Omid Malakhan, suggesting a generational sentiment where individuals feel marginalized by traditional financial systems.
  • People increasingly resort to high-risk investments as a perceived necessity.

Conclusion

  • Final Thoughts: While memecoins can be viewed as collectibles or charitable donations, they also represent a trend of desperation and risk-taking among younger investors.
  • Call to Action: The episode emphasizes the importance of understanding the volatility and risks associated with memecoins.

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Key Takeaways

  • Memecoins are volatile: Their value can soar and plummet based on market sentiment rather than intrinsic worth.
  • Public figures influence: Celebrity endorsements can inflate the popularity and price of coins, often to the detriment of everyday investors.
  • Cultural implications: The rise of memecoins highlights a deeper societal issue of financial disenfranchisement, particularly among younger demographics.
  • Caution recommended: Investing in memecoins is akin to gambling; potential investors should be aware of the risks involved.

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Host Information

  • Waylon Wong: Host
  • Nick Neves: Occasional Reporter and Producer

Music Credits

  • Composer: Drop Electric

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Disclaimer Caution is advised when dealing with cryptocurrencies and meme-based investments due to their speculative nature and high volatility.

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0:11This is The Indicator from Planet Money. I'm Waylon Wong, and I'm here today with occasional NPR reporter and producer Nick Neves, who has a story about a squirrel and a meme coin. Hi, Waylon. Hi. Okay, so you may remember Peanut the Squirrel. He was an Instagram famous squirrel owned by this guy, Mark Longo, and Mark would dress him up in little cowboy hats, and they would eat waffles together. It was very cute. Were the waffles also small? Actually, the waffles were normal size. But the cowboy hats were small. The cowboy hat was small. Or just peanuts. Yes. But Mark didn't have a license to take care of wild animals.

0:49And late last year, New York state agents raided his house and confiscated Peanut. And in the process, it bit one of the officers. And to test it for rabies, the officers killed Peanut the Squirrel. I do remember this now. A lot of people were talking about this, including J.D. Vams. So I know Don's fired up about Peanut the Squirrel. And Elon Musk talked about it on Joe Rogan's show. Just go out there and vote for Peanut, man. If nothing else. Yeah. And at the same time, someone made a cryptocurrency named after Peanut the Squirrel. And it exploded in value in just a few weeks. I couldn't track down who made the coin.

1:30Mark says he had nothing to do with it. And I was so confused about meme coins. And I still am. How could a dead squirrel make millions of dollars? Whether or not we understand them, these quote-unquote meme coins are having a moment. You may have heard of Haktuah coin, Trump coin. A lot has changed since the early days of crypto. Today on the show, what are the rules of the meme coin game and who's winning?

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2:41Think of a blockchain like a big spreadsheet in the sky. This is Zeke Fox. He's an investigative reporter at Bloomberg who writes about crypto. And you might remember him from our previous episode on zombie NFTs. But back to blockchain. It's got two columns. In column A, you've got people's names. So let's say it's got Waylon, Nick, and Zeke. In column B, we've got a number, like, you know, 1, 5, and 10. And so that's, if this is a Bitcoin blockchain, that's how many Bitcoins we have. So that's sort of all there is to it. Do you feel like a master of the universe, Nick? Right, yeah, no. The big question with crypto, though, is why does it have any value?

3:29Like, why is a number in the spreadsheet in the sky worth any money? The first viral meme coin, Dogecoin, was made as a joke, in part to say, look, one new cryptocurrency shouldn't have any more value than another one. But Dogecoin blew up anyways. Zeke said a friend of his who bought Dogecoin low sold it for a few thousand bucks and helped fund a trip to Disney. He taunted me and said, I am freaking Nostradamus. I guess the lesson here is things really are worth whatever people are willing to pay for them. Right, yeah. But anyways, that was early days. The thing that's changed since then is that it used to be kind of hard to make a new coin.

4:07The latest meme coin craze was really enabled by this new trading platform called Pump.Fun that made creating a meme coin like a point-and-click experience. Thousands of new coins are minted every day. You could make a coin right now named after a cute deceased animal and people could buy it. I aped$10 ,000 into Peanut the Squirrel. As Peanut's death made the rounds in the media, the coin got more and more buying. Which already made many crypto millionaires. In just a few weeks, the coin went from around 5 cents to over$2. Yeah, but PeanutCoin, like most meme coins, has dropped in price since that early spike.

4:54A typical pattern for these coins is that once the price goes up, developers will sell their coins and crash the price for everybody. This is called rugging. like pulling the rug from under someone. This is Omid Malakhan. He's a professor at Columbia Business School, and he really believes in the spreadsheet in the sky. He holds Bitcoin and thinks crypto represents the future of finance. He's certainly, though, got a take on meme coins. The Dogecoin, I tell people, that's just gambling. You don't say I'm going to invest in playing roulette or the lottery. And just like regular gambling, the house can be stacked against you.

5:31In order to pull out the rug and make money, other people need to think the meme coin is going to keep going up. Right. This is just greater fool's theory on the blockchain. You can make money as long as there's someone who thinks they'll be able to sell it for more than you. One way to make something appear to be going up is to do what's known as wash trading. Zeke says in this case, someone might control multiple crypto wallets. And you trade it back and forth at increasing prices, and other people see, oh wow, it's going up, and you start attracting some real buyers because the coin appears hot.

6:07Of course, in a traditional regulated market, this is super illegal. But Omid says part of what makes crypto good is that anyone can do anything on it. He doesn't mind that people trade meme coins. Meme coins became popular in the last couple of years because they were fair, supposedly. And they were for the people and of the people and owned by the people. Nobody controls them. And certainly nobody holds a substantial percentage of the supply. Then comes Trump coin, of which over 80 % of the supply is controlled by Trump and his partners who issued this thing. Two LLCs associated with the Trump Organization control the coin.

6:50It totally blew up. Okay, but here's the important thing to note. Those companies only released a small fraction of the coins for the public to purchase. When a coin is released like this, it's usually held for a number of years. But Trump token can start selling in three months. Amit says insiders are going to want to sell their share as fast as they can. Because if you get something for free and you can make billions of dollars selling it, you're probably not going to hold it for the long term. So it will be bad for the price, which means it'll be bad for everyone who's holding it, except for?

7:24Except for Trump and his associates who get effectively free money. This is not how the good meme coins operate. The way the game is played is, well, if you happen to buy it on the open market before the meme went viral, then you deserve to make money off of its success. Like early purchases of the peanut coin, for example. They got lucky. Omid says people should be allowed to gamble. But a coin made by someone who's already got clout who made a meme in order to make money? It's funny to hear myself say this, but that to me fails the integrity test of a good meme coin. Right now, as of this recording, Trumpcoin's market cap is around$3.5 billion.

8:13But this raises a lot of questions. Like, if a lot of these coins are rigged or extremely risky, why are people still making and buying them? On one hand, you can think of them kind of as souvenirs or collectibles. And as charitable donations, right? Right, yeah, they can be. In fact, Mark Longo, Peanut the Squirrel's owner, actually launched his own meme coin, JFP, Justice for Peanut. He says it's to raise money for his animal sanctuary. Omid, though, has another explanation for what's behind meme coins. I think meme coins are sort of a symptom, which is the term of art we use in academia and in other places is financial nihilism.

8:54And the basic idea is that a lot of people, particularly young people, increasingly feel like the whole shebang is rigged against them. Healthcare is expensive. Housing is expensive. Eggs are expensive. Yeah. You know, we're all living in the same world. And they increasingly feel like they have to take risks, that they have to do crazy things with their money. But if you're doing things like meme coins or meme stocks or sports betting, there's a significant chance you'll just lose everything. Nick, thank you for bringing us this story. Thanks for having me. I'll see you at Waffle Wednesday. See you there.

From the publisher
Memecoins are having a moment, but who's making money off them? On today's show, how a dearly beloved internet squirrel found an afterlife as a cryptocurrency and how others, including President Trump, are trying to capitalize on online fame.

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