Inside the growing industry to defend schools from mass shootings

15 Oct 2025 · 9 min

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Notes on Podcast Episode: Inside the Growing Industry to Defend Schools from Mass Shootings

Podcast Information

  • Podcast Title: The Indicator from Planet Money
  • Episode Title: Inside the Growing Industry to Defend Schools from Mass Shootings
  • Episode Length: Approximately 10 minutes
  • Hosts: Waylon Wong, Meg Anderson (guest)
  • Air Date: [Specific date not provided]

Episode Overview The episode explores the burgeoning industry aimed at preventing school shootings, characterized by a variety of products marketed towards enhancing school safety. It examines the effectiveness of these products and the psychological factors that contribute to the industry's growth.

Key Concepts and Discussions

Historical Context

  • Columbine High School Shooting (1999): Often regarded as a pivotal moment in the narrative of school shootings in America.
  • Cycle of School Shootings: Over 400 school shootings recorded since Columbine, following a pattern of public mourning, calls for change, yet little significant policy shift.

The School Shooting Industry

  • Current Market Size: Valued at approximately $4 billion, projected to grow to nearly $6 billion by 2027.
  • Products Offered:
  • Drones for intervention
  • Body armor
  • Bulletproof whiteboards
  • Trauma kits
  • Facial recognition technology
  • Panic buttons
  • Metal detectors

Interview Highlights

  • Scott Newman, CEO of Titan Armored:
  • Introduced a bulletproof mobile whiteboard designed for classroom use.
  • Justin Marston, CEO of Campus Guardian Angel:
  • Demonstrated drone technology meant to respond to school shooting scenarios.

Effectiveness of Products

  • Lack of Data: Significant uncertainty regarding the effectiveness of security products; no comprehensive dataset exists to confirm which products are deployed in schools or their efficacy.
  • Expert Opinions:
  • Jillian Peterson, a criminal justice professor, emphasizes the importance of mental health support over hardware solutions.
  • Criticism of "hardening" schools as ineffective, referring to it as "security theater."

Psychological Factors

  • Decision-Making:
  • Fear as a Driver: The need for security products arises from deep-seated fears regarding school safety.
  • Rational vs. Irrational Responses:
  • Maximizing outcomes (spending freely on safety) versus optimizing outcomes (balancing budget with needs).
  • The notion that parents may prefer spending on visible security measures rather than investing in more effective mental health resources.

Broader Implications

  • Economic Opportunity: The episode highlights the uniquely American tendency to commercialize fears and security threats, turning them into business opportunities.
  • Expert Commentary: Kai Ruggieri discusses the complexity of human behavior in the context of school safety and the limitations of merely purchasing security solutions.

Conclusion This episode of *The Indicator* underscores the complexities surrounding the issue of school shootings, illustrating the intersection of fear, economics, and public policy. It raises critical questions about the effectiveness of current safety measures and advocates for a reevaluation of priorities, emphasizing mental health support as a potentially more effective route to improve school safety.

Related Episodes

  • Why Are So Many Public Schools Closing? [Link to episode](https://www.npr.org/2025/09/24/nx-s1-5551077/why-are-so-many-public-schools-closing)

Production Credits

  • Producer: Julia Ritchie
  • Engineering: Robert Rodriguez
  • Fact-Checker: Sierra Juarez
  • Editor: Kicking Cannon

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For further exploration of the interplay between economic factors and societal safety concerns, this episode serves as a poignant entry point in understanding the current landscape of school safety measures in America.

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0:11You really only have to hear one word in the following news clip to know exactly what the reporter is talking about. At least two gunmen opened fire today at Columbine High School in Littleton, Colorado. Columbine, April 20th, 1999. Fifteen people were killed that day, including the two gunmen. Another 20 were shot but survived. And another victim recently died from complications related to her injuries. Columbine wasn't the first school shooting, but for many Americans, it marks a turning point, the beginning of a dark era, because now, of course, it's not the only school shooting we know by name.

0:52Sandy Hook, Parkland, Virginia Tech, Uvalde. I'm joined today by Meg Anderson, a criminal justice reporter at NPR. Meg, you helped cover the Parkland tragedy. I did, and others. There have been more than 400 school shootings since Columbine. And there's a familiar rhythm to it all. We learn the victims' names, we try to find a motive, Some people offer prayers, others push for gun control, and not a lot changes. It's quiet for a while, and then it all starts again. But from this seemingly endless cycle, a multi-billion dollar industry has emerged. There's a long list of things schools can buy to try to deter a mass shooter, from drones to body armor, and business is booming.

1:43This is The Indicator from Planet Money. I'm Waylon Wong. And today we're going to take a look inside the school shooting industry. What's for sale, whether these products can actually prevent school shootings, and the psychology behind the growing industry. This message comes from Vanguard. Capturing value in the bond market is not easy. That's why Vanguard offers a suite of over 80 institutional quality bond funds, actively managed by a 200-person global team of sector specialists, analysts, and traders. They're designed for financial advisors looking to give their clients consistent results year in and year out.

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3:08So, over the summer, I was at this conference put on by the National Association of School Resource Officers. Those are the police officers stationed in schools. At the conference, they had all kinds of training sessions for the officers, like how to work with kids who've experienced trauma. But they also had this big expo hall, where there were tons of things for sale. Panic buttons, facial recognition technology, trauma kits, metal detectors, guns, tasers. The expo hall was like a mini version of the industry, all in one room. Okay, so your name is Scott. Scott Newman. Yes, ma 'am. And you're the CEO.

3:48Yeah, I'm founder and CEO for Titan Armored. Okay, and tell me about, what are we looking at? Okay, we're looking at, layman's terms, this is a bulletproof mobile whiteboard. So essentially, it was a big dry erase board. Someone had even written welcome on it. I think that was to show it could be used like a regular teaching tool. Right. It's designed to be discreet so it won't scare children. But the idea is that students, teachers, whoever could hide behind it if they needed to. I just felt at that point, there's got to be a way that we can protect students and teachers. In the event there is something, they need to be able to shelter in place until the first responders can get there.

4:25There was even a bullet hole in the whiteboard on display, which did not go through to the other side. And actually, this example was kind of low-tech in comparison to other things I saw. Yeah, so we use drones to stop school shootings. Justin Marston is CEO of Campus Guardian Angel, and his company did a whole demo. The idea is that these drones live inside a school, and if there's a shooter, remote pilots who work for the company deploy them from their headquarters to debilitate the shooter. So we typically go first with a siren, which is kind of a distraction. and then we will take shots with a pepper gun and then we hit them with a drone at kind of 60 miles an hour.

5:06This industry is growing quickly. According to the market research firm Omdia, the school shooting industry is now worth as much as$4 billion. They predict it will be worth nearly$6 billion by 2027. That's a lot of money. But the problem is that we really have no idea if most of these school safety products even work. There isn't a comprehensive data set about which products are even being used in schools. Some are bought by local school districts. Others are bought by police departments. They're then used by the more than 23 ,000 officers stationed in schools. There isn't a lot of data on what technologies would actually work to stop a shooter.

5:47And it's even harder to study shootings that were averted. It's so hard to study because it's so hard to study something that didn't happen, right, which is literally what prevention is. That's Jillian Peterson. She's a professor at Hamlin University in Minnesota who studies school shooters. She says you can look at the similarities of people who do carry out these acts to get an idea of how to prevent them. Typically, she says, shooters are former or current students who have access to guns. Oftentimes, they're too young to purchase guns, so they're taking unsecured guns from family and friends.

6:22They are also usually in crisis. So Jillian says strengthening mental health care in schools is important. Other research backs that up, too. But according to a study by the Urban Institute, we spend about$12 billion a year on school security guards. That's about a billion more than we spend on school counselors. There are a few simple things gun violence experts say do make a difference that schools should invest in, like having an emergency plan and keeping school doors locked. But adding lots of security bells and whistles to schools, also known as hardening the building, Jillian says that isn't proven to be effective.

7:00It is security theater, right? I feel like we tried hardening for 25 years post-Columbine. Like, we were all in on hardening. It has gotten worse. Like, we just, I don't think we can harden our way out of it. When it comes to protecting kids, obviously the stakes are incredibly high. And fear plays a big part in the decision-making over what schools need. For instance, what if the metal detector at the door does catch a gun in a backpack and averts a tragedy? What if making your windows shatterproof is the thing that makes the shooter give up? Or on the flip side, what if we don't buy these things and they could have made a difference?

7:41Those what-ifs are powerful. Kai Ruggieri is a professor at Columbia University. He studies population behavior and decision making, and he says they represent a specific type of economic decision. So when we talk about rationality, we kind of have to split it into these two ways. What we have is we have maximizing outcomes and we have optimizing outcomes. So when we optimize, we are making a decision within a budget. Let's say you're renovating your kitchen. You love cooking and you want a really nice stove. But you also probably want to make sure you're getting good quality cabinets. You can't have the rest of the kitchen fall apart because you spent all your money on the stove.

8:19So you'll make the best decisions you can make within your monetary constraints. That's optimizing. But with maximizing, all bets are off. You're not going to cut corners. You're going to spend whatever it takes. Something like airline safety would be a great example. No one's going to admit to saying there's an upper level of investment we're willing to put into keeping planes safe or keeping cars safe and all this. Anything where you're talking about the protection of human life, that's obviously going to have much larger flexibility. People aren't going to be nearly as price sensitive. School security fits into that category.

8:52At the conference I went to this summer, police officers stationed in schools told me as much. They said that on the awful day a shooter does show up, they want whatever tools they can get, even if they're not proven to be effective. Gun ownership is like that, too. Most people who buy guns say they're doing it for protection when actually having a gun in the house increases the risk of being shot. Even if research suggests there are more effective ways to stop a school shooting from happening, like strengthening mental health supports, Kai says people are acting rationally within the confines of the country we live in, where gun control isn't coming on a large scale anytime soon.

9:30People aren't stupid. Life is complicated, right? there's threats and worries. And you can show a parent every study that says these things will reduce, you know, threats to the school. And the parents might say, yeah, that's great. That's great. Do that everywhere else. But at this school, here's what I want. Kai says it's not surprising that the response in the U.S. to school shootings has been to try to buy our way to safety. It is uniquely American that we will take any sort of issue and turn it into an economic opportunity. In many cases, it's to our benefit. But he also says sometimes it disincentivizes simply reducing the problem itself.

10:12This episode was produced by Julia Ritchie with engineering by Robert Rodriguez. It was fact-checked by Sarah Juarez. Kicking Cannon is our editor and The Indicator is a production of NPR. This message comes from Mint Mobile. At Mint Mobile, their favorite word is no. No contracts, no monthly bills, no hidden fees. Plans start at$15 a month. Make the switch at mintmobile.com slash switch. That's mintmobile.com slash switch. Upfront payment of$45 for a three-month, five-gigabyte plan required. Equivalent to$15 a month. New customer offer for first three months only. Then full price plan options available.

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From the publisher

From drones to body armor to bulletproof whiteboards, companies are offering schools a multitude of products to try to deter or protect against the next school shooting. But does any of this stuff work? On today’s show, a look inside the school shooting industry. What's for sale and the psychology behind the growing industry.

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