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Podcast Episode Summary: Why Are So Many Public Schools Closing?
Podcast Information
- Title: The Indicator from Planet Money
- Description: A bite-sized show about big ideas, helping listeners make sense of today's economy with quick insights into money, work, and business.
Episode Details
- Title: Why are so many public schools closing?
- Description: This episode discusses the decline in public school enrollment across the United States, the resulting school closures, and the impact on communities and education.
Key Themes
Declining Enrollment
- Overview: Many public school districts are facing declining student enrollment, which is prompting them to reconsider the number of schools they can maintain.
- Impact on Funding: Fewer students lead to reduced government funding, creating a cycle of cuts to services and potential closures.
Contributing Factors
- Birth Rate Decline:
- The U.S. birth rate has dropped over 20% since 2007, contributing to fewer students.
- Housing Market Issues:
- Lack of affordable housing is deterring young families from moving into school districts.
- Homeowners are "locked in" at lower mortgage rates, preventing them from downsizing and selling to families with children.
Economic Calculus for Schools
- Financial Strain: Schools depend on per pupil funding, so declining enrollment can lead to significant financial challenges.
- Cutting Services: Schools may struggle to maintain essential services (e.g., nurses, special programs) as enrollment drops, leading to further declines in student numbers.
Community Impact
- Disruption to Families: School closures can sever connections between students and their friends, teachers, and community.
- Negative Academic Outcomes: Research suggests closures can adversely affect academic performance.
Parent Advocacy
- Case Study: Taylor Iogo, a parent from Atlanta, is concerned about the potential closure of her daughter's school, West Manor Elementary.
- Taylor is working with other parents to advocate for the school’s retention through community campaigns, including social media and community meetings.
Broader Educational Landscape
- Federal Policies: Recent federal programs promoting private school options contribute to the complex landscape of public school enrollment.
- Individual Choices vs. System-Level Effects: Parents' choices regarding schooling are influenced by broader policy frameworks, complicating the issue of school closures.
Conclusion
- As districts face tough decisions about school closures, the impacts are felt deeply by families and communities. The episode highlights the need for understanding the economic and social forces at play, as well as the grassroots efforts of parents to advocate for their schools.
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Production Details
- Produced by: Julia Ritchie
- Engineering by: Robert Rodriguez
- Fact-checking by: Sierra Juarez
- Edited by: Kate Kincannon
- Production Company: NPR
This episode is a compelling look at the intersection of education, economics, and community advocacy, shedding light on a pressing issue facing public schools nationwide.
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Transcript
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0:11This is The Indicator from Planet Money. I'm Waylon Wong. And I'm Adrienne Ma. A few years ago, Taylor Iogo's family relocated from Washington, D.C. to Atlanta, Georgia. Taylor wanted to find a home near a good school for her daughter. And Taylor took this research really seriously. I'm one of those people, I comb the data, I look at school performance, particularly for black children. Taylor found a public school she really liked, Westmanor Elementary School in southwest Atlanta. Her daughter started going there in kindergarten, and it's been great. West Manor is a place where the teachers and the staff, they know the kids by name, every single one.
0:51They know the parents, the grandparents, the aunties and uncles that come to pick them up. Whenever there's a holiday celebration, the auditorium is packed with families. But Taylor heard a disturbing rumor at her daughter's kindergarten graduation in the spring. West Manor might be closed as part of a broader effort by Atlanta Public Schools to address declining enrollment. And it turns out it wasn't just a rumor. The district is considering closing some schools. And it's not just Taylor's school in Atlanta that's potentially on the chopping block. Districts in states like Minnesota, Tennessee, and Texas are grappling with the future of their public schools.
1:28So these conversations are happening all over the place right now. Today on the show, we learn about how school closures are a sign of much larger forces at work in the economy. And we see how parents like Taylor are fighting to keep their kids' schools open.
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3:17Well, that's, you know, it feels like, you know, in the last, I think, three or four years, especially, it is a big part of the work that I have to do. I just don't want to be known as a national expert on school closure. But unfortunately, this is the role that has found me in this time of my career. Tracy's official title is vice president of planning services for a company called HPM. HPM does construction management for different industries, including K-12 education. Tracy says that the happy part of his job is advising districts on projects like building a new school. The grim part, and the one that he's doing more of these days, is helping districts figure out what to do with school buildings that don't have enough students in them.
4:03Atlanta Public Schools is one of Tracy's current clients. And while the district has a capacity for 70 ,000 students, the enrollment is just 50 ,000. Tracy points to a couple reasons for the drop in enrollment, not just in Atlanta, but across the country. Number one, and this is the big one, families are having fewer children. The birth rate in the U.S. has fallen more than 20 percent since 2007. That's the year the Great Recession officially started. I think that the birth rates are going to stay low. Obviously, that's going to have some impact. But that's not all of it. That brings us to a second reason behind falling enrollment, which is housing.
4:41Tracy says a lack of affordable housing options in large metro areas is keeping young families away. And there's also this mortgage lock-in problem, which is something we talked about on the show before. That's where homeowners who borrowed money at low interest rates a few years ago are staying put. And this is because they don't want to take out a new loan at a much higher interest rate. These stuck homeowners include empty nesters. Under normal circumstances, they would downsize, maybe sell their home to a family with school-age children. But this isn't happening, and Tracy understands this firsthand.
5:15Three years ago, I had two kids in high school. now they're off and I don't have any, but I have this house that I raised them in that's likely too large for me and my wife. But going to half the house at twice the mortgage and four times the interest rate isn't very attractive. Combine the falling birth rate with a difficult housing market and you get some communities with fewer students. This poses an existential problem for public schools because part of their state and federal funding is based on per pupil enrollment. Fewer students means less money coming in, while certain expenses, like building maintenance, they stay constant.
5:52Erica Meltzer is the national editor at Chalkbeat. It's a nonprofit news organization that covers education. And she says low enrollment is a widespread problem right now for public school districts of all sizes. This really comes down to economies of scale for school districts. For a lot of these communities, you start to have questions of, is the school operating in an efficient manner? Can they afford a nurse, an art teacher, a music teacher, a social worker? Or at the high school level, can you offer advanced classes, robust career and technical education? And increasingly, the answer is no.
6:30Erica says it doesn't take a big exodus of students to put a school into a death spiral. It can happen when falling enrollment leads to cuts in programs and services. That leads to more families leaving, which means less government funding and more cuts. Sometimes the difference of just five or ten kids can be sort of that make or break point. Because if you have, you know,$10 ,000 per student, that's$50 ,000 or$100 ,000. And that starts to be several staff positions, like can you have classroom aides? It can be as little as five or 10 students in the overall enrollment of a school that become the point where they can no longer offer a robust range of services.
7:14School closures can be really disruptive to families. Students may lose connections they've made with friends and teachers. And research has linked closures with negative effects on academic performance. Erica says the pandemic delayed a reckoning for some school districts because they received emergency federal funding. But today, that money has been spent. And Erica says the Trump administration has prioritized access to private schools over investment in public education. In fact, the huge tax and spending bill the president signed this year, it created a federal program to help families pay for private school.
7:48The federal program is the first of its kind, and it comes amid a major uptick in statewide private school programs. Still, Erica says she doesn't believe those vouchers are a main cause of the public school enrollment decline. But these programs are expanding, and that adds a new dimension to the school closure conversations happening around the country. You have the individual choices that parents are making, thinking about their kid, and then there's the system-level effects of millions of individual choices. And then there's sort of the policy universe that creates the choices that are available to the parents.
8:23Taylor Iogo, the Atlanta parent we heard from earlier, she wants her daughter's elementary school to continue being an option. Otherwise, her daughter would essentially have to start over at a new school. Now, private school vouchers are available in Georgia, but Taylor is not sure she wants to do that. In the meantime, Taylor has joined up with other parents in APS, Atlanta Public Schools, to campaign for keeping the school open. They have an official Save West Manor Instagram and website. They got lawn signs made, and they've been going to community meetings. In this conversation about school choice, you know, people talk about charters or they talk about private school.
9:00But choosing your neighborhood public school is a choice, and many families, many young families are actively making that choice. We have some great schools. You have passionate families about our schools. You know, it kind of feels, the best way I can describe it, it's like when you had a crush on somebody and you're like, I've been here the whole time, right? Like, I've been rooting for you this whole time. So why are the families who are staying loyal to APS being punished with these closures? Parents like Taylor will be making their final push to save schools over the next couple of months.
9:33And then Atlanta public school officials could vote on a plan as soon as December. This episode was produced by Julia Ritchie with engineering by Robert Rodriguez. It was fact-checked by Sierra Juarez and edited by Kate Kincannon. The Indicator is a production of NPR.
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