Lifetime ISA, is the free £1,000/yr still worth it? | Your insider MoneySaving tips

22:38Martin Lewis:You can take your money out of the help to buy ISA and get the interest, you don't get the bonus, at any point you like without any penalty. So if you've got£10 ,000 in your help to buy ISA, you can take£10 ,000 out whenever you want. If you've got£10 ,000 in your lifetime ISA and you're taking it out other than buying a qualifying property or leaving it till age 60, you're only taking out£9 ,375. So the lifetime ISA has a bigger bonus. It can be used on a bigger property. It works in a much more effective way. But the help to buy ISA is more flexible. And therefore, if you are not definitely going to be buying a qualifying property under£450 ,000, then you probably want to stick with the help to buy ISA.

23:27Has that made sense so far. That has made sense so far. So now let me go into a little bit more detail on this. Blimey, there's more. There's more. Let me just go through the who should do what.

23:39Martin Lewis:If you have a help to buy ISA, should I move my money to a lifetime ISA? Well, if you're buying a house over£450 ,000 and that's what's likely to happen, it's an absolute no unless you want to use it for retirement savings because effectively you're locking your money away with a potential penalty if you moved it to the lifetime ISA. If you are looking to buy a house that costs between£250 ,000 and£450 ,000 outside of London, and you're not buying within the first year that you're going to do this, or you've already got a lifetime ISA open, then yes, you would probably want to move your money from your help to buy ISA into the lifetime ISA, because you can't get the bonus on the help to buy ISA on a property over£250 ,000, you can get the bonus on a lifetime ISA for a property over £250 ,000.

24:26Martin Lewis:So even if you had£10 ,000 in your help to buy ISA and you could only move£4 ,000 across, you would still want to do it because you're just not going to get the bonus on the help to buy ISA. Then we get the tricky bit, which is if you are looking to buy a house under£250 ,000. So in this area, you can use both the help to buy ISA and the lifetime ISA to get the bonus. The advantage of the lifetime ISA is you can put more in. The advantage of the help to buy ISA is you've already got the money in and you could only move across£4 ,000 in a tax year by transferring it. So if you had£4 ,000 or less and didn't have any more money to put in your lifetime ISA, you may as well move it to the lifetime ISA.

25:08But if you've already got close to maxing out your help to buy ISA, let's say you've got£10 ,000 in there, well it's going to take you at least two and a half tax years before you can get it into the lifetime ISA so if you're planning to buy before that you may as well keep it in the help to buy ISA because you're not going to be able to put as much money into the lifetime ISA so if it's a house under£250 ,000 the real question is where are you going to be able to have the most money when you come to buying it

25:32Martin Lewis:and I think that is a completely full answer on the help to buy ISA versus lifetime ISA And that's just the start of your lifetime ISA and help to buy ISA questions. But we're going to change subject just for a minute and get into the tellers. Really fascinating one this week. Lots of great responses. Thanks so much to everyone who got in touch. So this week's tellers is what tips have you picked up from your current or past jobs that would save others money? We want specialist insider knowledge from your specific job. And we've got loads of good ones. Why don't you start? Because my voice is going.

26:08OK, we've got an ex-HMRC inspector. Keep your records, your documents, receipts, etc. Not only will it help with taxes, but with everything else in life. Wollantee claims, faulty goods, insurance claims. The more records you keep and the more comprehensive they are, the better. We'll save you time and money in the long run. But to keep all this paraphernalia, you need formidable organisational skills and a hell of a filing cabinet. Or a camera. Or a camera. On your phone. and you just take a picture of the documents and you put them in a file and you make sure that it's saved on your computer.

26:41Now, the reason I also strongly support this, I have a blog I've written on this and I first wrote it about 12 years ago and boys, it turned out to be right. The blog said that while you're generally advised only to keep documents for four to six years and keep statements for 46 years, we don't know what the future mis-selling cases will be. We don't know what products you've signed up for now. There will be some campaign where you can get your money back in future. and if you don't have the documentation it's a lot harder to get money back and this is all played out with the car finance reclaiming right now so those who've got their documents back from 2007 will find it a lot easier to get their money back than those who don't so i would always whenever you sign up for any financial document i'd take a photo of it i'd store it on your computer i'd have it in a file you never need to look at it again it's not using you know the data cost is irrelevant because it's just a document but you never know when you might need it in future so I'm with the ex-HMRC inspector.

27:35Why don't you do the next one then? Trev, I worked in a big supermarket while at school. Always take any chilled, perishable goods from the back of the display. They fill them up from the back, so the stock at the back has the longest sell-by dates on them. Absolutely right, yes.

27:49Martin Lewis:I have to say I do that on occasion too. Not if I'm not looking for... If I know I'm going to use it that day, I don't bother because I think I'll let someone else have it. But if I'm otherwise, you want it to keep... Use the long arm, the long arm of the reach. James, I'm a web developer. I tell anyone I can to use a password manager to store not only passwords, but also account info for banks, utilities, etc. Not only will it help keep you secure, but if you give emergency access to someone you trust, they're like a tool, like a lasting power of attorney or a will. Yeah, I mean, it is really useful.

28:22Martin Lewis:We talked about in the other week having a financial fact sheet that somebody you love can take over. and if you do it through a password manager as long as you trust them and trust is a big thing, then I can see that working. Jamie, having worked in hospitality, stop buying soft drinks in restaurants. The mark-up is shocking and doing this will massively reduce your bill. Jugs of tap water for the table. This is so true. The economics are fascinating. A friend of mine was a maitre d' in a famous restaurant and if they could get each table to order one bottle of still and one bottle of fizzy mineral water and all have coffees at the end, that meant they were definitely in profit for that table.

29:01The mark-up's all in the water. Yeah, the water and pasta. That's why there are often pasta dishes. Pasta costs nothing to make, but it can be expensive on a menu. It's where all the mark-up is. Louise, I worked in libraries. Use them. They have more than just books. Free e-books and audio books. Free magazines and newspapers. Free access to specialist websites. Genealogy, academic research, school resources. free or low-cost events and activities. Absolutely. Support your local library, folks. And this one, I learnt this one from you, Martin. Steve says, I worked in pharmaceutical research and development.

29:34Generic medicines are identical to branded products, e.g. a£2.50 pack of Panadol versus a 35p pack of supermarket paracetamol. No difference. Quite right. It's the active ingredient that does the job. So if it has the same active ingredient, it's doing the same job. Now, occasionally there can be certain other things that make it quick release. But even more so, what we've done research, if you look at the PL code, which is the product license code, you can simply find in some pharmacies different pharmaceuticals like hay fever tablets. One might be an own brand at half the price of the branded one, but they have the same PL code.

30:12Then it's not just the same active ingredient. It's absolutely the same stuff. It's the same tablet inside with the PL code. And interestingly, where we are now, not in this country, but in other countries, all the fat jabs, some of those are starting to come off trademark now. So they'll be able to be made generic and will be a lot cheaper. Not in the UK yet, though, but that will be the next one. And that will massively bring the price down. Because, of course, all of that initial cost is going into the research and development the pharmaceutical companies have put in. But after a while, they lose their protection.

30:44Martin Lewis:And then actually making these things is pretty cheap often, which is why the generics are a lot cheaper, because they haven't got the price of the brand in it. Go on, I've spoken a lot, you'd better do the next. Anna, being a doctor for over 30 years and a GP for 25, there is now no way I would be without health insurance. It's faintly depressing to read. Cover for the big stuff and with a mutual health insurance company as a minimum. Being on a waiting list for a year has many costs. I certainly think many people underestimate healthcare cash back schemes, which is what she's talking about, mutual health cover.

31:15What these are, these are plans where you get dental or optical, even on the NHS, anything you're paying for on the NHS or private. And then you take your receipts at the end and they refund you up to a certain limit.

31:26Martin Lewis:So you might have£130 of dental cover, £150 of optical cover, £150 of physiotherapy in a year. So you pay and then you claim back on your receipts. And if you're the type of person who is up to it and claims back, if your type of forgets it's not worth it, they can be worth their weight in gold and you can make far more money in a year than you pay into them. Jonathan I work in gas electricity customer service if you have an old style prepayment key card meter it won't update the price change until you enter the key if prices go up top up as much as you can the day before to maximise the current price if prices go down top up immediately yeah immediately afterwards interestingly that's one of my tips I'm going to slightly disagree Jonathan I'm so sorry I believe that only works on non-smart electricity prepayments meters.

32:15It doesn't work that way

32:17Martin Lewis:on non-smart gas prepayment meters because they back calculate to the date of the price change because it's a slightly different technology. But absolutely right on the electricity meters. Diana, worked as a designer and in sales in a kitchen and bathroom studio. Always let them know you're getting several quotes and ask for a discount. Always. And if you can show you've got the lowest price for similar, usually there's a discount available. And then Tony who works in a GP practice. If you're on HRT, make sure you sign up for the prepayment prescription form to save on monthly prescription charges.

32:49Martin Lewis:Quite right. Couldn't support that anymore. There are many women missing out on that one and it is a big way to save.

32:58Martin Lewis:Back now to the questions on lifetime ISAs and help to buy ISAs. You were getting technical this week. Helen, I know that I can only put in until I'm 50, but does that actually work when you get to that age? my birthday is partway through the financial year. So if I put any money into it within the new financial year, but before my 50th birthday, will I still get the 25 % added by the government? Another really good question, Helen. So yeah, it's up to age 50 that you still get the bonus on the lifetime ISA. I'll be absolutely honest, I haven't read the terms because no one has got to that age.

33:32The oldest you could be to have a lifetime ISA, it opened in April 2017.

33:37Martin Lewis:so you could be, you were, let's say it was someone who turned 40 on the 7th of April 2017 so no one is yet 50, you can't yet be 50 and have got to that point with a lifetime ISA so I will do some digging and get back to you later in the programme whether it is simply that you can do it in the tax year that you turn 50 you're still able to get the bonus or there's some form of hard cut off on your birthday by the month I would have thought it was in the tax year that you turn 50 but I will do some checking and let you know later in the show. And by the magic of podcasting, I do have an answer now.

34:13So I did check it later and I'm recording this at the back end but we're putting it in the middle of the podcast, you see? So look, the key is you can continue to put money in a lifetime ISA which means you can continue to get the bonus on the money that you put in a lifetime ISA until the day before your 50th birthday. It is on your 50th birthday that it all cuts off and you can't put any more in. So it is absolutely on the day itself. So if you haven't maxed out your lifetime ISA and it's right for you and you're 49 years old and 364 days,

34:46Martin Lewis:365 days on the leap year, then get your money in. Okay, Olivia, I have a full help to buy ISA and no longer funding it. When do I need to actually purchase a house by? Right, so you will keep getting the bonus on the Help to Buy ISA until November 2029, and you can still use it until December 2030 because the Help to Buy ISA is supposed to be a dead product. That's the current plan. Now, what's interesting here is you heard me mention earlier that the Lifetime ISA may well be replaced by a first-time buyer's only version of the ISA, which will be likely far more like the Help to Buy ISA, but with a few less caveats, I hope.

35:27Martin Lewis:So there is a chance that the Help to Buy ISA will be reopened. I think it's unlikely in its exact form. But you need to purchase a house to get the bonus by the end of 2030, is the answer, with the help to buy ISA, because it's a dead product. Just to be very clear, that's only the help to buy ISA, not the lifetime ISA. That's because it's a legacy product. Debbie says her son has a help to buy ISA. He knows it's got to be used by a certain date. The area that he's currently working in means he's unlikely to be able to use it anyway, as houses are above 250k. What's his best option? Well, in that case, if he's definitely going to be buying a house and not in the next year, I would open a lifetime ISA and transfer some of it across.

36:06If there's a chance he might be buying it with a help to buy ISA,

36:09Martin Lewis:I wouldn't take the rest of my money out of a help to buy ISA if he's got a lot in. Actually, I'm thinking about that. If you're moving it to a lifetime ISA, there's no point in keeping the help to buy ISA. But there is no harm in keeping it in a help to buy ISA because you can take your money out at any point and you don't have to be using it to buy a house. So I'll go back to my original answer. If he's looking to buy and either he's got a lifetime ISA already open, even with not much money in, therefore he's getting past that, it's got to be open one year, or he's not going to be buying in the next year, then I would be moving money across to the lifetime ISA so that he can get the bonus on that because that can be used on a property up to£450 ,000.

36:46If you get together with somebody who is also fully sort of ISA'd up in this sense and a first-time buyer, Can you pool it, pool the money to buy a house worth double the£450 ,000? No, no. That really...

37:05Martin Lewis:The£450 ,000 is the limit on the property size. Even if 12 of you have all got lifetime ISAs and you're all buying together, the property purchase has to be under£450 ,000. What you can do is you can each have a lifetime ISA and each get the bonus. You know, if you were buying a... In the ridiculous scenario of 12 of you were buying together, you could all have your free money on your lifetime ISA to be put towards it but the property has to be under£450 ,000. Right, OK. And with that£450 ,000 threshold limit, whatever we want to call it, is that set in stone or could that in itself move? Well, I've been lobbying and campaigning for it to move for about five years, Adrian.

37:43Martin Lewis:I've had meetings. Jeremy Hunt semi-promised me he was going to do it and then in his last budget said, no, I think I'm moving it because we need to do some consulting to my next budget but then wasn't in power for the next budget. I've spoken to Rachel Reeves about it. She said she's looking at doing it. She has told me that when they do the consultation on the Lysa replacement, they will look at whether they'll increase the£450 ,000, because clearly it's ridiculously unfair to have that frozen. People got these products in 2017 thinking they were going to be able to use it. House prices have gone up.

38:10Martin Lewis:The threshold hasn't. Some people have been priced out. And they're now having to pay a fine, a penalty to the state for having opened a product that the state wanted them to, to be a first-time buyer. and they're going to be a first-time buyer, but they're priced out of the market. Not only do they not get their bonus, but they pay an effective penalty. So it's hideously unjust. But I don't know what's going to happen because I've had politicians look at me and effectively say, yes, we'll up that limit at some point and they've not done it. So you simply have to work on the assumption for the moment that if you've got a lifetime ISA, the limit is£450 ,000 and it's not going to change.

38:45Martin Lewis:I hope to be wrong, but I wouldn't be betting on being wrong. Gillian, I've got to help to buy ISA. that's down to 2.5 % interest rate. Doubtful I'm going to buy in the next couple of years, but not out of the question. So ditch and put the money in a new ISA or wait and see? Absolutely. In your case, wait and see. Right. You have the interest rate's 2.5%. The best ISA on the market's 4%. But if you end up buying a home, you're going to get a 25 % bonus on whatever money you've got in there. So the upside gain, if you were to buy a home, is 25%. The downside loss, if you weren't, is about 1.5 % interest because that's the difference between the best-paying normal cash ISA and your help-to-buy ISA.

39:27And because it's a help-to-buy ISA, there's no penalties for taking your money out if you choose to do so if you're not buying a house. So I think because the upside gain is so much more than the downside loss of not going to a better ISA, I would stick where you are. Your decision, then. OK. Heather, son turned 18 a couple of weeks ago, has opened a LISA with£4 ,000, was offered cash or stocks and shares option when creating the account, opted for stocks and shares, has no intention of buying a house in the next six years. We can see you can switch to cash if that is the better option, but ensure which is best.

39:58So my general rule is if you're looking to put money away for more than five years that you don't need and you won't want to access, then investing will, as long as it's in a nice broad spread of investments and there are no guarantees because it's investing, investing will outperform savings. Now, normally, as a first-time buyer, I would always suggest you use a cash LISA, a savings LISA, because you're probably looking to buy within the next year or two or three. And you need the money when you need the money because you're going to buy a house. So but in your question, you're saying no intention of buying within the next six years.

40:33So if that is absolutely right, then hopefully a stocks and shares ISA will outperform.

40:38Martin Lewis:And once you start to get into the period when you might start thinking about buying, that's the point where you might want to gradually start moving that asset back from a shares lisa into a cash lisa what you don't want to do is you know let's picture ourselves in six years time we're in six years time suddenly your son goes i need to buy a house now but the market investment because markets are volatile they go up and down is low at that point so it's having to crystallize a loss so you'd want to move it out a little bit before so that you can time when you take your money out rather than just having to be at the mercy of I need the money now I've got to take it out stocks and shares now but generally what you're doing doesn't sound wrong there's no rights or wrong here we don't have a crystal ball but it doesn't sound wrong because you're not going to need the money in the next six years okay three quick ones to finish Thomas I own a property can I have a lifetime stocks and shares ISA for retirement or do you need to have use one to buy a house first no it you can use it absolutely if you've owned a property you won't be able to get the first-time buyers bonus, but you can use it towards retirement savings, yes.

41:41Helen. Or age 60 savings, anyway. OK. Helen, please, are there any sensible options for moving money out of a LISA, whilst saving for retirement, and into a pension or similar, as the LISA counts as a savings if on universal credit? I'm 45. That is one of the big problems in the Lifetime ISA Evidence Committee that happened last year, and I was one of those who gave evidence to that committee at the Commons. One of the big problems with a lifetime ISA is it does count as savings, which means it can diminish your universal credit entitlement, whereas money saved in a pension doesn't. As a general rule, by the way, I would always say the first port of call, especially for any employee, is use your employee's pension scheme to save for retirement because you have a matching contribution from them and you're getting money put in from pre-tax income.

42:28Where a LISA comes in, it tends to, for somebody who is self-employed, so they don't have an employer contribution and a basic rate taxpayer, then a LISA versus pensions is an interesting debate. If you're a higher rate taxpayer, you're getting 40 % relief when you're putting money into a pension, so that's probably going to win. This, by the way, is one of the reasons it's tough to find a lifetime ISA. It's providers like Moneybox, who's the top pick at the moment, because many of the main high street banks won't do it because they're worried that they will get done for mis-selling because people will be better off putting money in a pension rather than retirement savings.

42:59but you're asking me can you get money out of your licea that's the problem unless you're buying a house or you leave it till age 60 no so you will have to take the decision are you better to take the money out and pay that 6.25 penalty and then put that money into a pension and you will get

43:15Martin Lewis:tax relief on putting it in a pension you'll have to check out then you can use um the money and pension service money helpers website in order to ask them the question about that because it needs to be some specific decisions need to be made for you on on your tax status on that there's no easy way to not pay that penalty though. I'm so sorry, Helen. Rob says, I've been pushing my 18-year-old daughter to open a Lysa. However, if she does and then inherits my property on my passing, would she still be eligible for the government bonus? No. The rule is simple. You must have never owned or part-owned a property anywhere in the world.

43:49So if she inherited a part share in your property, unfortunately she would no longer be entitled to the lifetime Isa bonus. What a rather a depressing place to leave lifetime ice as adrian yes well yes but it's been in it's been in it's been bracing thank you high fiber yet bracing i've enjoyed it right adrian you know what time it is now let's hear it hello and welcome to money mastermind adrian the score stands that you've got 17 right and 35 wrong in this three option multiple choice quiz which means that you're sadly no better than random chance last week i thought you were going to do it you changed your mind at the last moment i have to tell you i've had quite a few messages about that people going i don't get it i don't get why you did that but we're moving on you're going to Resurrect yourself.

44:51I've got faith in you. Here we go. Now, listeners, our Adrian has come into a bit of money and immediately his inner visual monologue turned generation game. Convertible, hot tub, big telly, maybe one of those fridges with ice in the door, VR goggles with West Brom on repeat. But soon, this perfect middle-aged fantasy turns into middle-aged mundanity. reality kicks in and sensibly our adrian thinks i probably should just put a bit more money in my pension so today's question adrian you're paying directly into a simple private stakeholder pension not a workplace pension if you're a 40 higher rate taxpayer which of these is the situation A.

45:42You get no tax relief automatically. You must claim all of it yourself. B. The pension provider usually adds basic 20 % tax relief automatically, which means in practice you get 25 % added on top on what you put in.

45:58Martin Lewis:C. The pension provider checks your tax band by law, it has to do that, and automatically adds full 40 % higher rate relief. So you, in practice, get 66 % more than you put in. So there you go. You're bringing to a stakeholder pension, not a workplace pension. Is there no tax relief automatically? Basic 20 % tax relief. Or do you get, does it have to ask you your tax status and you get the 40 %? I think it's probably C. I just think it's too big to be left in a grey area with having to declare it yourself, or at least part of it yourself. So I think it's somewhere... I don't know, I'm talking myself out of it.

46:44Well, let's go with C. So you're going with C. Your view is that they have to check your tax band and then you're going to get the money added on top. Is that your final answer? That's my final answer. Lock it in. So Adrian, the first thing I can tell you is there is tax relief added on top on a standard pension when you put it in. The real question, is it at 20 % or is it at 40 %? Well, the answer is B. Oh, no, not again. I'm afraid. So the pension provider will usually add basic 20 % tax relief. So you get 25 % more than you put in. This is called relief at source. So you pay in from taxed income.

47:24the pension provider claims basic relief from HMRC. So if you put 80 quid in, it will add 20 pounds on top. So you have 100 pounds going in. As you're a high rate taxpayer, you're likely entitled to more, but you don't get that put in your pension. You normally claim the extra relief through self-assessment, or if you're not doing a tax self-assessment, you ask HMRC to adjust your tax code. Now, you can usually get this tax relief on personal contributions up to 100 % of your earnings capped by the annual allowance, which is a maximum normally of£60 ,000. Though high earners and people of access to pension can have lower limits.

48:01Now, what's interesting about this, we've been talking about ISAs before. Well, there is a savings allowance for children not often talked about that because you get relief at source, anyone can get relief at source. You could actually put£2 ,880 into a pension for a child. They would get tax relief even if they're not a taxpayer, which means they would have

48:21Martin Lewis:£3 ,600 in, which is the maximum you're allowed to get if you don't have any earnings. And therefore, they would get 20 % tax relief on pension for a child, which is actually a very effective way, if you've used up all the other allowances, you've got lots of money to save for your kid in the long run. Just as a little nerdy thing there. But Adrian, you got it wrong. I'm terribly sorry. Yeah, I thought you would know that, though. I actually thought you'd get that. Because the problem is, of course... Well, I thought it was too... I always think... The obvious one seems B, and then I think it's a trick.

48:48I spend more... I'm more I spend more time trying to think what you're thinking rather than what you're planning and what skullduggery you're up to than actually thinking about what is the right answer. But what's interesting is you haven't yet got 2026 mastermind, right? You will notice I made a decision at the beginning of the year that I wanted you to get more right. I have literally been saying this to you every time, but I hope we're going to change that instead of making fun of you about it. That's my 2026 resolution. I am genuinely I'm not playing my part I'm genuinely not trying to catch you out I mean the questions have tricks in them because that's about making you think about what the finance is behind it but I'm not actually trying to make you get them wrong you always assume I am and it makes you get them wrong so I'm now officially putting you on notice I'm trying to help within the rules of the game okay that's great okay thanks mate that's a good enough a time as any to end I wish you told me on January 1st I would have enjoyed 2026 a lot more I did say it I thought it was another trick but now I know Cheers Martin

50:05Now time for the Best Buy Lifetime ISAs and Help to Buy ISAs We'll start with Lifetime ISAs These are the cash ones The top pair is currently Moneybox at 4.6 % but that includes a 1.8 % fixed bonus for a year. So after that, the rate will drop. You've got Tembo at 4.5%, Plum at 4.05%. All of these are variable rates, so you need to keep an eye on them, but all do allow you to transfer in an existing lifetime ISA. To do that, you just apply for one of these ISAs and fill in the transfer bit in the form. Do not take your money out because you'd pay the withdrawal penalty. If you're looking for stocks and shares LISAs, well, the DIY ones where you can choose totally your own investments are the like of AJ Bell and Hargreaves Lansdowne and Doddle.

50:46If you want simpler platforms, then the like of JP Morgan Personal Investing and Moneybox can help you too. When we get on to help to buy ISAs, while they're closed to new applicants, you can still open a new one to transfer from. The best paying help to buy ISA currently is HSBC at 2.75%. I should note, your existing help to buy ISA may pay more, because one I've just listed is only for transfers,

51:10Martin Lewis:but there are a few helped by Isis that pay a little bit more than that so check what your rate is before you're considering transferring it.

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