In short
The “Care Con” alleges Daryl Hagler and Kenny Rosenberg ran a for-profit nursing home scheme that prioritized profits over resident care, using an Opco/Propco structure, inflated related-party expenses, and chronic understaffing. It also covers legal actions and a New Jersey comptroller report.
Guests
Kenny Rosenberg—healthcare executive and nursing home administrator; degrees from Yeshiva and Columbia (MPH); founded Centers Healthcare; claims EMT/9-11 response; later bought El Al and became co-vice chair with Hagler. Daryl Hagler—CPA and real estate investor; built a multi-sector portfolio; partnered with Rosenberg on nursing homes.
Key claims
2017 closure of Mount Laurel Center; COVID-era deaths; 2017 NY AG settlement ($45M). 2019–2024 NJ comptroller report alleges ~$92M siphoned via inflated rent and related-party “tunneling,” understaffing (Hamilton missed minimum staffing by 52% avg; Deptford missed most days and often had no RN), and falsified cost-report documentation.
Notable examples
overgrown toenails; water-damaged rooms; disconnected calls; residents left in feces; ~3,000 police calls; alleged fatal asphyxiation after serving non-pureed food; alleged sexual assault with prior history.
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Chapters
Tap a time to open that second in VOIntroduction to Hamilton's Nursing Home Crisis
1:30 to 3:49
Explore the unsettling conditions at a nursing home in Hamilton, New Jersey.
“It was June of 2023 in Hamilton, New Jersey, a small town between Philadelphia and Atlantic City.”
Background of Hagler and Rosenberg
4:35 to 7:16
Understand the business backgrounds of Daryl Hagler and Kenny Rosenberg.
“Kenny Rosenberg and Daryl Hagler are longtime next-door neighbors in Rockland County, New York, just west of the Hudson River.”
The Growth of Their Nursing Home Empire
7:16 to 9:11
Learn about the expansion of Hagler and Rosenberg's nursing home business.
“By 2040, that number is projected to be about 1 in 5, which is around 80 million people.”
The Facade Cracks: Nursing Home Issues
12:12 to 14:00
Examine the deteriorating conditions in Hagler and Rosenberg's nursing homes.
“For close to three decades, Daryl Hagler and Kenny Rosenberg have built a business alongside their friendship.”
Understanding Nursing Home Ratings
14:00 to 15:01
Discover how the CMS rating system evaluates nursing homes to ensure safety.
“It's kind of sort of like a Yelp for nursing homes, and they do that so that people who are looking for safe places to put their loved ones kind of know in a more objective way whether the home is good or not.”
The New York Attorney General's Lawsuit
15:01 to 16:51
Learn about the neglect allegations leading to a $45 million settlement.
“The owner of four nursing homes agreed today to pay$45 million to settle claims they severely neglected or humiliated people in their care.”
The Impact of the Comptroller's Report
16:51 to 18:19
Explore the significant findings of the New Jersey comptroller's report on nursing homes.
“The comptroller's office in New Jersey is in charge of overseeing Medicaid.”
Financial Mismanagement in Nursing Homes
18:19 to 21:08
Examine how Hagler and Rosenberg inflated costs and funneled funds from their facilities.
“And the rent payments weren't really rent at all.”
Staffing Violations and Consequences
21:08 to 23:09
Uncover the staffing ratio violations at the nursing homes and their impact on care.
“there wasn't much left to pay for the nursing staff, and that caused some serious harm.”
Neglect and Patient Abuse Allegations
23:09 to 26:36
Investigate the disturbing allegations of neglect and abuse towards residents.
“And then law also mandates what level of staff you need.”
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Recommendations for Nursing Home Reforms
26:36 to 27:59
Learn about the proposed reforms to combat fraud and improve care in New Jersey nursing homes.
“The director of nursing on staff allegedly said, what happens in this room stays in this room.”
Addressing Corruption in New Jersey Nursing Homes
28:10 to 31:28
Explore the systemic issues of corruption and mismanagement in New Jersey nursing homes.
“And at the same time, the legislature has boosted the amount of money that it gives to these homes and acted to make it easier for them to get more money.”
The Allegations Against Hagler and Rosenberg
32:03 to 34:10
Delve into the allegations of fraud against Daryl Hagler and Kenny Rosenberg and their impact.
“Daryl Hagler and Kenny Rosenberg may have whipped up an illicit nursing home business model in order to funnel money into their own pockets.”
Transcript
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1:30Daryl Hagler:It was June of 2023 in Hamilton, New Jersey, a small town between Philadelphia and Atlantic City. Quaint on the surface, Hamilton calls itself the blueberry capital of the world. Every June on the last Sunday of the month, it leans into that identity by hosting the Red, White, and Blueberry Festival, complete with live music, a car show, and a pie-eating contest. Blueberry, of course. The tagline, the more, the barrier. That June was warm, with temperatures outside the Hamilton Center Nursing Home reaching into the 70s. But inside, it was a different story. The temperature never seemed stable.
2:21Daryl Hagler:Some days too hot, other days too cold, but always uncomfortable, with no relief for the residents. On one of those June days, a call came in to the local police station less than five minutes away, and it wasn't the first. There had been others over months and years, each one pointing to the same conclusion. Something was wrong inside that nursing home. This time, the call came from a family member of one of the home's residents, panicked and desperate. Their loved one was experiencing chest pains, and repeated attempts to reach nursing staff had gone unanswered. For 40 minutes, they had tried to get someone, anyone, to respond.
3:17Daryl Hagler:No one did. When police arrived, they could not find a single nurse on sight. As they moved through the facility, they heard loud unsettling screams coming from more than one patient, while repeated cries for help went unanswered.
3:44Daryl Hagler:This is The Opportunist, an original podcast from Podcast One. You're listening to a story told in one episode called Daryl Hagler and Kenny Rosenberg, The Care Con. I'm Sarah James McLaughlin. In this episode, we follow the story of longtime friends and business partners, Daryl Hagler and Kenny Rosenberg. One brought experience in healthcare. The other, real estate acumen. Together, they believed it was a business combination made in heaven. But as you'll hear in this episode, it was much, much closer to hell.
4:35Daryl Hagler:Kenny Rosenberg and Daryl Hagler are longtime next-door neighbors in Rockland County, New York, just west of the Hudson River. They've been friends for more than 30 years. Rosenberg built his career in healthcare and Hagler in real estate. Rosenberg earned degrees in art and psychology from Yeshiva University in New York and a Master of Science and Public Health from Columbia University. He says he first got into healthcare in the late 80s as a volunteer emergency medical technician. In 2001, he claims he was even called out to tend to victims of the September 11th attacks. After earning his master's degree, Rosenberg worked as a hospital administrator for a nursing home chain.
5:23Daryl Hagler:When the owner of the chain fell ill, Rosenberg bought one of the branches from him. Then he bought another. And another. In the late 90s, he founded a company called Centers Healthcare to provide operations consulting and management support for nursing homes and related health care facilities. Here's Rosenberg in a video message from March of 2017, honoring National Social Worker Month. He's representing Centers Healthcare.
5:56Kenny Rozenberg:Social workers are the ones who consistently put a human face, a human touch, on any number of difficult situations and make them a little bit more bearable. Let's face it, no one comes to the hospital or arranges for home health care because everything is fine. Believe me, I speak for many years of experience. I started this company as a nursing home administrator, and I'm an active volunteer paramedic. I see the positive impact of social workers every day. And if I can offer a word of advice as someone who's known a lot of social workers, never stop improving yourself, never stop learning, and never, ever stop giving.
6:32Daryl Hagler:Les is publicly known about Hagler. According to his website, he earned a Bachelor of Arts degree and became a certified public accountant. Then, he went on to build real estate portfolio of properties spanning a variety of sectors, including commercial, industrial, residential, and hospitality. Throughout their long friendship, Hagler and Rosenberg have completed numerous business deals together, most notably involving nursing homes. Historically, health care and real estate were treated as separate sectors. But as the U.S. population ages, that line has started to blur. In the year 2000, one in eight Americans, which is roughly 35 million people, were at least 65 years old.
7:25Daryl Hagler:By 2040, that number is projected to be about 1 in 5, which is around 80 million people. The demand for specialized senior care is on the rise, which also means that partnerships between healthcare professionals and real estate specialists are on the rise too. There's even a term for this phenomenon, healthcare real estate, which explains Hagler and Rosenberg's collaboration. So it's no surprise really that they went into business together. In 2014, they bought three nursing homes in New Jersey, including the one in Hamilton. This is Dana DeFilippo, senior reporter at the New Jersey Monitor, who is familiar with their story.
8:15Kenny Rozenberg:They own 46 nursing homes in four states, including New Jersey and New York. And New York is where they have most of their nursing homes, and that's where they also live.
8:28Daryl Hagler:Hagler and Rosenberg use what's known as an operating company property company, or Opco Propco, as the business setup with their nursing homes. In other words, the two men split the majority ownership of the homes. At Hamilton and another one of their New Jersey locations, Deptford Center, Hagler owns almost 100 % of the operations company, the side that handles the day-to-day business operations. Rosenberg, on the other hand, is a partial owner of the property company, the real estate size of Hamilton and Deptford. By the end of 2025, Hagler and Rosenberg were involved with more than 40 nursing homes across the country.
9:13Daryl Hagler:On the surface, elder care looks like empathy in action, but we're talking about a business venture. Today, America's collective vision of aging has become, as one historian put it, both medicalized and marketable. Turns out, it wasn't really that commendable in 2017 either. That's the year that Rosenberg gave his video speech on the importance of honoring social workers. It was also the year that the upstanding public images of Rosenberg and Hagler began to unravel.
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12:20Daryl Hagler:For close to three decades, Daryl Hagler and Kenny Rosenberg have built a business alongside their friendship. On the surface, their operation sounds admirable, maybe even noble. But in 2017, their facade started to crack. It began when one of the nursing homes they purchased in 2014 was shut down. Mount Laurel Center for Rehabilitation and Healthcare in Mount Laurel, New Jersey, lost its Medicaid certification in 2017 and closed its doors, reportedly because of poor care. Problems for Hagler and Rosenberg intensified during the COVID-19 pandemic. There were not enough staff to properly care for the patients in their New York homes.
13:13Daryl Hagler:staff members were not quarantining patients who contracted the virus. And to make it worse, there was a lack of proper personal protective equipment in their facilities. Across Hagler and Rosenberg's four New York nursing homes, 400 people died. That same year, Rosenberg added a new and curious financial venture to his resume. He bought El Al, the flagship airline of Israel. Not long after, he made Hagler his co-vice chair. Here's Dana again of the New Jersey Monitor explaining the state of Hagler and Rosenberg's New York facilities. When she says CMS, she's referring to the Centers for Medicare and Medicaid Services.
14:05Kenny Rozenberg:CMS has a rating system that they rate. It's kind of sort of like a Yelp for nursing homes, and they do that so that people who are looking for safe places to put their loved ones kind of know in a more objective way whether the home is good or not. And many of their homes, including the one in Mount Laurel that was closed in 2017, had gotten one, maybe two stars. The homes had been designated as special focus facilities. That's something that the feds reserve for kind of the worst of the worst. And that is supposed to subject them to kind of higher scrutiny, more frequent inspections. So they were these special focus facilities.
14:46Kenny Rozenberg:They were one-star facilities, more frequent inspections.
14:51Daryl Hagler:In June of 2023, New York Attorney General Letitia James sued Hagler and Rosenberg and their New York homes, and a$45 million settlement was reached.
15:05Kenny Rozenberg:The owner of four nursing homes agreed today to pay$45 million to settle claims they severely neglected or humiliated people in their care. Attorney General Letitia James says the owner insufficiently staffed the nursing homes and continued to admit new residents, even though they could not care for the existing residents.
15:24Daryl Hagler:But the settlement didn't stop the men from keeping up with their nefarious business model.
15:30Kenny Rozenberg:But they still were operating. They still continued to get more money. Every year they still went unchecked largely until this comptroller's report came out, really exposing things and documenting it.
15:44Daryl Hagler:The report Dana is referring to was conducted by New Jersey's former state comptroller, Kevin Walsh. Here's a video of him explaining what his office does.
16:23Daryl Hagler:Released in December 2025, Walsh's report focused on a period of time between 2019 and 2024. When people started to realize the depth of Walsh's accusations, news stations began picking up the story.
16:41Kenny Rozenberg:New Jersey investigators say two South Jersey nursing homes are accused of cutting corners and care while the owners pocketed millions. In a bombshell investigation, the office of the state comptroller says between 2019 to 2024, residents at both the Hamilton Center and Deptford Center for Rehabilitation and Health Care suffered in deplorable conditions. The comptroller's office in New Jersey is in charge of overseeing Medicaid. And so that office frequently investigates and audits just any kind of Medicaid spending to make sure that there's no fraud, waste or abuse. And so this was already kind of in their wheelhouse.
17:19Kenny Rozenberg:Well, I think the New York case is what made them finally start looking at New Jersey.
17:24Daryl Hagler:Walsh's 2025 report outlined a number of troubling findings. First, over the course of those five and a half years, Hagler and Rosenberg used the Hamilton and Deptford nursing homes to maximize profits for themselves. They did this by inflating both rent payments and through something called related party expenses. Remember that Opco Propco business setup? That comes into play here. In a setup like this, the Opco, the operations company, or the one that handles the healthcare side of things, pays rent to the Propco, the property company, the real estate side. In this case, Hagler was essentially paying Rosenberg, his friend and business collaborator, rent.
18:15Daryl Hagler:Rosenberg was wildly inflating these so-called rent prices. And the rent payments weren't really rent at all. The money was used to cover the cost of the nearly$60 million mortgage he and Hagler originally got to buy the nursing homes, both Hamilton and Deptford, plus Mount Laurel in the first place.
18:38Kenny Rozenberg:Investigators found that the mortgage was double what it should have been, you know, for market rate, and that Rosenberg's property companies alone pocketed almost$28 million. And so that's, you know, that's a lot of money that possibly, that's a lot of money that could have been supporting direct patient care, right? And that sounds like it should have been.
18:58Daryl Hagler:Now let's get into the related party expenses, the second way that Hagler and Rosenberg allegedly siphoned funds from their nursing homes. Think of all the services that go in the day-to-day operations of a nursing home. There's nursing care, patients' food and medication, the building maintenance, and janitorial services. Nursing homes often contract out these types of goods and services. They also contract them out to companies that own or control part of the nursing home. These kinds of companies are called related parties. The related parties in this case made up at least five other businesses that supplied goods and services to the Hamilton and Deptford homes, all at least partly owned or operated by Hagler and Rosenberg's spouses, sons, daughters, or daughters-in-law.
19:56Kenny Rozenberg:Apparently this is a pretty common problem in the nursing home industry, these kind of use of third-party companies. And it's common and it's legal, but the problem is is that it's ripe for abuse, right? Because there's not a lot of oversight and there's not a lot of regulating there.
20:14Daryl Hagler:When business owners inflate the cost of goods and services provided by related parties, it's called tunneling. And that's exactly what the comptroller accused Hagler and Rosenberg of doing. They inflated the cost of business consulting, information technology services, staffing, building maintenance, and medical diagnostic labs all goods and services provided by these related parties.
20:43Kenny Rozenberg:The comptroller figures that they moved about$92 million through their companies, their third-party companies, over five and a half years that he looked at. And that's more than two-thirds of the$135 million that they got from New Jersey in Medicaid money over that period. So two-thirds of the Medicaid money that they got, they funneled through these third-party companies that were owned by the relatives.
21:07Daryl Hagler:With the majority of Hagler and Rosenberg's funds going to an inflated rent payments and related party goods and services, there wasn't much left to pay for the nursing staff, and that caused some serious harm. The New Jersey state legislature sets minimum staff-to-resident ratios based on the time of day. Day shifts, for example, meaning generally 7 a.m. to 3 p.m., require one certified nursing assistant per eight residents. Facilities with over 150 beds are required to have a registered nurse on duty 24-7. This rule applies to Hamilton and Deptford because they're both licensed for 240 beds.
21:55Daryl Hagler:What the comptroller found in his 2025 report was that not only were both Hamilton and Deptford understaffed, but they were chronically and intentionally understaffed. The numbers were dire. At Hamilton, the minimum staffing requirement was missed by an average of 52 % per day. In other words, the home regularly did not even have half of the minimum required staff on duty. Deptford's numbers were similar. For 62 out of the 64 days the comptroller reviewed, the home did not meet its minimum staffing requirements. And to make matters worse, for 52 of those same 64 sample days, it also had no RN on duty.
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22:50Kenny Rozenberg:So we know, according to this report, that the short staffing is one of the ways they were able to increase their profits. And so the homes, the comptroller looked at a certain number of days, and most of those days in both homes had less than half as much staff as they were required to have by law. And then law also mandates what level of staff you need. So, for example, RNs might be required instead of licensed practical nurses. That meant that they could spend less on staffing.
23:23Daryl Hagler:As if inflated rents, related party expenses, and understaffing weren't enough, they allegedly understated the scope of the schemes in required cost reports. The Hamilton and Deptford homes spent about$2.1 million on goods and services coming from related parties, but these transactions had no supporting documentation whatsoever. And remember that Hagler is a licensed tax preparer. He's the one who oversees much of the nursing home's finances. He's the one who signed off on their cost reports. He even personally prepared the tax returns of several of the related parties mentioned previously. The New Jersey comptroller had little patience for this sort of behavior.
24:13Daryl Hagler:Here's Dana again talking about the comptroller's take on the case.
24:18Kenny Rozenberg:He didn't regard this as anything accidental or sloppy, clerical problems or anything like that. He said it was intentional that Hagler is a licensed tax preparer, right? And so he, as a licensed tax preparer, should know what he's doing. And he is the one who signed this paperwork and certified these.
24:38Daryl Hagler:The most appalling allegations the comptroller found had to do with the patients themselves, the ones actually living inside of Hagler and Rosenberg's nursing homes.
24:50Kenny Rozenberg:There was pictures in this report of people's overgrown toenails, like an inch or longer overgrown, and their explanation for that was, well, we have a podiatrist, but they only come once a month. And so, you know, just kind of things that were both disgusting, alarming.
25:11Daryl Hagler:Residents' rooms were found to have serious water damage. Some people went without their essential medications. Others reported their calls being disconnected. More than one person was left to sit in their own feces for hours. All in all, over the course of the comptroller's period of review, a combined total of over 3 ,000 calls were placed to local police stations from within the two nursing homes.
25:41Kenny Rozenberg:And so it was ran the gamut from neglect to endangerment, really. In at least one of those cases, it was deadly endangerment.
25:51Daryl Hagler:Two residents were reportedly sexually assaulted by a fellow resident.
25:58Kenny Rozenberg:While that's alarming enough, what was more alarming was that this person that was accused of sexually assaulting the two residents had a history of this.
26:09Daryl Hagler:One resident even died due to what the comptroller called egregious negligence by staff. The person was restricted to a diet of pureed food. Regardless, they were served a sandwich and a cookie and apparently asphyxiated to death. It took hours for staff to notice the patient's dead body. And when they did notice it, CPR was performed. The director of nursing on staff allegedly said, what happens in this room stays in this room. The biggest tragedy of all is that all of this suffering was 100 % preventable. Former New Jersey comptroller Kevin Walsh had been reviewing nursing homes in New Jersey for years.
27:02Daryl Hagler:Back in 2024, he made a few recommendations to the state government in response to the unfortunate reality of the New Jersey nursing home industry as a whole. First, he recommended that the state adjust its policies to alleviate some of the risks that go along with corporate for-profit nursing home business setups. Second, he pushed for the New Jersey legislature to enact reforms protecting nursing homes from fraud, waste, and abuse. And third, he proposed the evaluation and amendment of laws about staff-to-resident ratios so that it's easier to spot when profiteering scams are happening. But the legislature has not acted on his recommendations in any real way.
27:51Kenny Rozenberg:There's a lot of frustration, I think, on the part of the state comptroller, on the state of the AARP of New Jersey. New Jersey also has a long-term care ombudsperson that is quite frustrated because there hasn't been legislative action or any meaningful legislative action to fix these problems. And at the same time, the legislature has boosted the amount of money that it gives to these homes and acted to make it easier for them to get more money.
28:21Daryl Hagler:The Comptroller's report from December 2025 added a few more recommendations. For example, New Jersey nursing home owners who are found taking part in related party scams should be forbidden from owning or operating more homes in the state. Rent and mortgages in nursing homes should be regulated to prevent fraudulent and wasteful practices by their owners. So why hasn't legislature acted on these recommendations?
28:53Kenny Rozenberg:The number of old folks in New Jersey is growing, so there's going to be a growing need here. And so, you know, you like to think that maybe the motive was pure, that they think nursing homes need money, and so let's get them some more money. But at the same time, when you're not really kind of watching that money, there's no watchdogging happening there except by, you know, these kind of occasional reports. then that's millions, possibly billions out the door in misconduct and fraud, waste and abuse. Then that, you know, that ultimately comes out of the public's pocket, right? Because that's public money, taxpayer money.
29:30Daryl Hagler:The other reason, though, is the stark level of corruption in New Jersey politics.
29:37Kenny Rozenberg:New Jersey is notorious, right, for the level of corruption here. You can't throw a stone without hitting a corrupt politician here.
29:46Daryl Hagler:Walsh tried to put a stop to that. Dana says that before he was the acting state comptroller of New Jersey, he was a civil rights attorney. He took his job as the comptroller, which is the watchdog of public funds, very seriously, which Dana says didn't always sit well with public officials. Yet he became what she describes as an irritant to them.
30:11Kenny Rozenberg:I think besides kind of this resistance or backlash to Kevin Walsh, I think that one of the problems here with why they have not acted is because of money and politics. And so you have a health care industry in New Jersey, 350 nursing homes in New Jersey, most of which are for profit nursing homes and have a profit motive, who are profiting millions, billions of dollars. maybe not billions, they're profiting millions of dollars off of these homes. And so they have a financial motive for there not to be this kind of transparency and accountability that Kevin Walsh says is really needed and overdue.
30:54Daryl Hagler:According to Walsh's report from December 2025, the state plans to recover$124 million from Hagler, Rosenberg, and their collaborators for their combined scams.
31:08Kenny Rozenberg:And that's how much money that he identified in his report as illicitly going not to patient care. And a part of that would be, or on top of that would be penalties. And those would be assessed probably by other authorities besides the comptroller. He was just kind of exposing the problem. He wouldn't be the one assessing penalties, but he said there could be significant penalties.
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32:11Daryl Hagler:Daryl Hagler and Kenny Rosenberg may have whipped up an illicit nursing home business model in order to funnel money into their own pockets. And they may have gotten away with it for years to the detriment of hundreds of seniors supposedly under their staff's care. But if New Jersey's former state comptroller Kevin Walsh has his way, he'll make sure the two men pay for the damage they've allegedly done. Damage that he said in his December 2025 report that led to a persistent state of misery for nursing home residents. Walsh left the office of New Jersey's state comptroller at the end of January 2026.
32:56Daryl Hagler:but before he left, he filed a lawsuit against Hagler, Rosenberg, and their associates for their alleged multi-year Medicare fraud. There are over 30 defendants in the case, and the defendants are on the hook for that$124 million.
33:18Daryl Hagler:Still, Dana cautions that we should be wary of using the word criminals in this case.
33:25Kenny Rozenberg:And we have to be careful that you don't use the word criminal because I think the comptroller was really careful in that too, right? Because they haven't been criminally charged, at least not yet.
33:36Daryl Hagler:Early in February, the Hamilton and Departford Centers issued a statement to the Hamilton Gazette disputing the comptroller's findings and saying that the report, quote, significantly misstates both the facts and the law. They maintain that both centers have above-average CMS ratings and, quote, look forward to addressing the lawsuit in court. And it's true. In the eye of the law, Hagler and Rosenberg aren't criminals. Not yet, anyway. They're simply, well, opportunists.
34:22Daryl Hagler:Thanks for tuning in to The Opportunist. This episode was written by Ashley Green, produced by Alex Boyd, and Juliana Postrel, and executive produced by Connor Powell. We'll be back in two weeks with a new story about people seeing an opportunity to get ahead and taking it. Until next time.
35:18Daryl Hagler:We'll see you next time.
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