Do You Believe?

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0:59This is a show that you get to decide. Do you believe in the supernatural? Do you believe that people can speak to the dead? Do you believe that? You...some people say yes, some no. Okay, those are the questions we're asking you today. And to get us started, here is one of the most famous psychic mediums working today. You decide. In the world of psychic mediums, John Edward is the closest thing there is to a bona fide rock star. Thousands of people around the world come to his sold-out seminars, many hoping John will connect with a lost loved one. John says his life's mission is to share his remarkable ability.

1:42Born in Long Island, New York, his mother and his grandmother would often invite psychics into the home. It was at one of these readings that 15-year-old John was told of his abilities and his future. She started off the reading talking about everything that I was going to be doing, which is what I'm doing now, that I was going to be lecturing and on TV and radio and write a book and all about being psychic. For more than 20 years, John has been communicating with the other side and says he has turned countless skeptics into believers. So welcome, John Edward, to our show. Thank you.

2:21So, you know, there are a lot of people watching who absolutely don't believe. There are some who do believe. There are some who want to believe. And so, how does this work for you? I act as a conduit between the physical world here and what I call the other side. The other side. I act as that conduit, like a bridge, and I bring through their information. So it's like they beam me their energy, I interpret it in my frame of reference and I pass it on to the person that I'm sitting with. Okay, I think it's interesting that you use the term energy. We all are just energies, vibrating frequencies.

2:51And you're saying that people, or whatever life form it is, in, in, on the other side, is also an energy, and that their energies come through you. Why you? I think why me? And one reason is that I am a teacher by nature. Mm-hmm. So I think that's one of the main reasons that I've been given this opportunity, because I treat it as what it is. For me, I'm educating people about the energy of where they're at in their life and maybe how this can actually help them. It's about the empowerment that somebody can get from it as they move forward as a result of that pivotal moment. That pivotal moment, because you think people are stuck in the moment where the people pass.

3:24Absolutely. Right now we're all physical beings. And our soul, the energy of that soul is inside this vehicle. Well, when that vehicle ceases, for whatever reason, the driver, the soul, gets out and still, as far as I'm concerned, in my belief system, is able to exist. So what happens to the vehicle, the car, the body, doesn't affect the soul or the consciousness. So we're talking about the survival of consciousness and that energy, that love, that we're connecting with. Okay, so where are all these people that you're talking to from the other side? It's really...it's really funny, because... Yeah.

3:55One of the examples that I was given from my own guides, energies that I work with, was that it's like, where's the Internet? You know, it's like, where is the Internet? It's like, it's this place that's out there that we all talk about and know about, and we communicate. But you can't go there with a physical body. Yeah. But you need a conduit in some way to actually exchange that energy. Which is your computer. Which is your computer. Yeah. We all have. We all say that, though. Haven't you said that when you send an email? Where the hell did it go? Where is it out there? Yeah. Exactly. Yeah.

4:22Okay. So you...do you see these energies? I do not see them. For me, I'm clairvoyant, clairaudient, and clairsentient. And what that means is that I see, hear, and feel this energy. And I interpret what it is that it is in my experience. So, for example, if I'm seeing something, I don't see them the way I'm seeing the audience or yourself. I don't hear them the way we're able to communicate. It's kind of like having a daydream. You know when you're daydreaming and it's a very, very real experience? That's what it's like, except I'm conscious that I'm daydreaming. So I quiet my mind through meditation and prayer, and then I pay attention to what I'm thinking, what I'm hearing, and what I'm feeling.

4:56And it's as if I'm being impressed with this energy. So it's not coming from me, it's coming from outside of me. Well, how do you know, because, you know, I'm being the skeptic here for all the people. How do you know that the energy that's coming through you is their particular relative? I don't. I mean, because nobody's dressed in outfits, so how do you know? I actually don't. If anybody in this audience right now said, we can have a reading, you're going to immediately come up with your list of people, your top ten, your top two that you want to absolutely positively hear from. And then the reality is, you want to hear from, mom, and I start trying to connect with you, and I'm giving you information, and you're like, no.

5:30But what you're thinking is, no, that's not my mom. In reality, I'm connecting with your ex-mother-in-law who's passed, who didn't like you in life, and you're thinking, I don't want to talk to her. Like, why is she coming through? But if you've got children, or if you're still married to her son, or you still have a connection to the family, she'll see you as the way to get a message across. Are all the so-called people from the other side, are they always there? I don't believe that they're always around us 24-7. I mean, do you want them around you 24-7? Well, I was wondering. You walking around, you're never alone.

5:58You know, because people always say, they always ask me, it's like, are they always around? Like, you know, they're concerned not... They're concerned with things about, you know, us emotionally, spiritually. They're concerned about our growth, our moving forward, our learning. I mean, this to me, as far as I'm concerned, is the classroom of life. And we're evolving through that. I get all that, but where are they? They are... Where do they say they are? Certainly, if you can communicate with them, you've asked them, hey, where are you? I have actually asked them. And I...we call it the other side.

6:24Some people refer to it hereafter. They call it the great beyond. Some people call it heaven. And whenever I get somebody really loud coming through, I'll be like, well, what do you do? Do you have houses? Do you have jobs? Like, you know, do you eat? You know, do you have to count carbs? Like, what's the deal? Like, what's the... And what I get back, honestly, quite honestly, is that they don't care about my questions. They care about talking to the person that's sitting in front of me, because they've got to lower their frequency, and it takes a lot of energy to do that, and they want to get their message across.

6:49They have to lower their frequency to talk to you. To communicate. Because you're dense. You're a dense old human being. I'm dense. Okay. I mean, that we and the human body are very dense. Yes. Yeah, okay. So, okay. You decide. Kim Gregory wrote us saying that she desperately needs one last connection with her sister, whose sudden death is still a mystery. Was it murder, she wanted to know, or was it a suicide? And here is just a part of her reading with John. Just for on the record, we've not met. Right. Okay. I came in skeptical, but there was definitely an energy, I thought, between John and I.

7:26I'm going to just jump right in? Yeah, that'd be great. You have like these different energies that are coming in. They're telling me to call you by a different name, Kimmy or Kimberly or something completely different from Kim, but they make me feel like, don't call you Kim. My sister used to call me Kimmy Cricket from the little Disney character Jiminy Cricket. Right away I knew it was my sister. But wasn't there somebody who passed from a suicide? Yes. My sister was a warrant officer in the Army. She came back from Iraq in late 2004. She passed away November 26th. And it was questionable whether it was suicide or murder.

8:06I was told that my sister was shot. And I think that's why there was the issue of suicide or murder, because all of us immediately thought, and that's all we knew, was that it was murder. The forensics are still out, so the case isn't closed. So tell me to acknowledge the person who takes on the responsibility. Yeah. Clearly. and she's bringing that up okay okay so she's acknowledging the person crosses himself over and i say that because of the feeling that comes with it the feeling of intent i did not get the feeling of murder okay at all okay what was coming through to me what it was shown was somebody going like this which means that they go on that they take on the responsibility for how they got there i guess we didn't want to face that suicide could be it so the total time of Kim's reading with John was about an hour, and you said you were skeptical going in.

8:59And are you still skeptical? No. I wanted to believe desperately, but I still wasn't sure, and I really wanted to have proof that it was her. And I know I didn't tell John, but I wrote down in my journal two things that I wanted to come through from her to prove to me that it was her, and I feel like they came through. The nickname was a big one. Okay. And what else? Her middle name was Ann. And I know that he said Ann at some part of the reading. I feel like it was her. Coming through him. Okay. Right. And so two days after Kim's reading with John, the Sierra Vista Police Department in Arizona did tell us that her sister's death had just been officially ruled a suicide and not a murder.

9:46So that helped have some closure. Yes. I'm sure my family is dealing with that now. Okay. My guest today has one of the biggest psychic followings around, and he's been called everything from a fraud to a messenger from heaven. Do you think that psychic mediums can really make contact with people who've crossed over to the other side? John Edward says he can. And this is what I wanted to ask you. You say you can. Can you always? No. Okay. I cannot always. I've had individual readings where I said, with somebody and I get absolutely nothing, I don't connect with them. I can't connect with their energy, which means I can't bring the energy through, or I don't make the connection with them.

10:26Not usually in a group setting. Mm-hmm. Usually some loud person will push on through, but in a private setting, I have had that happen. Okay. Next is a mom who wrote to us saying that she watched her beloved daughter die right before her eyes, and now she hopes that John can give her some comfort. Here is a portion of that reading. The energy that I'm getting is focused and forced. They're telling me to acknowledge baby girl. They're telling me to say baby girl. Okay. Does that make sense? Mm-hmm. The first thing that John said that I knew he was contacting my sister was when he made the reference to baby girl because we're twins, but she's the younger of the two.

11:04Yeah, that's her, the baby girl. That's how she thought of herself, and that's how we all thought of her. Anybody have a middle name, Ann? That's her. She's middle name Ann? Yeah. Lori passed away on September 29, 2006 from cancer. For 15 months, we slept with her. We were by her side day and night. Now, I don't know if you took it off, if you stopped wearing something jewelry-wise, but somebody's telling me that they know that you took off whatever the thing is. When my sister was diagnosed with cancer, we all decided to wear Livestrong bracelets to support her through her struggles. After she passed, at the beginning of the New Year, New Year's Eve, right at midnight, when it turned to New Year's Day, we took off our bracelets.

11:55She's making me feel like she wasn't upset. And I feel like I'm more concerned, if I'm talking first person now for her, I'm more concerned about you and you and you and you. Oh, yeah. She said point blank to me, you know, if I die, you're the one I'm worried about. I feel like I'm at peace with what I'm doing, and this feeling gives me that sense that I know I'm leaving. I don't know if you knew that she knew, but I know she knew she was going. But I feel like you need to know that there was nothing else I possibly could have done. I have to say there's a feeling of... This is going to sound crazy, and I'm so sorry.

12:34Gratitude. I have a feeling of appreciation and gratitude. That's my feeling. So when you say, I have a feeling of appreciating gratitude, that's your feeling or her feeling? It's the energy that's being impressed upon me. It's called sympathetic or empathetic pain, where they will let me know or I'll get a feeling as to either what part of the body they had a problem or if there was an event, something that was affected, or emotionally their personality. It's almost like a wave that hits me. And for a complete stranger, I'll have this amazing feeling of, like, love. Like, I just...I'll feel that feeling.

13:04And I...that's what I do. I kind of acknowledge... And how was it the experience for you guys? It was a very good experience because I did feel as though my sister came through from the other side. Wherever she may be, I found out that she was with our loved ones, and she is in a better place, and she is with people that she knows and that she cares for. And it just gave me peace of mind and comfort to know all of this. Okay. And how do you know that she is now with the loved ones? Because John said it? Pretty much all of our loved ones who have passed actually did come through in some way or another.

13:32Well, how do you know it was your loved ones? Did they say their names? Some said their names. some said letters, and some just said things that were... you just knew it was them. There was no way... This is the thing that makes me... makes me skeptical, not cynical, but makes me skeptical. If I am, you know, on the other side, or if there is a person on the other side, why don't they just come right through and say what their name is? Why do they need a letter or...? Very easy. Okay. Can deaf people communicate? Can deaf people communicate? Yeah. How? They do sign language. Exactly. Well, they have a physical body and they have an instrument.

14:10Why don't they just come right out and start speaking? So now, if you don't have the instrument to be able to speak, they've got to use a frequency, a vibrational frequency that they have to lower that. And that's got to be sent across. So I, as a medium... And they have to lower their frequency. They have to lower their frequency. And their presence... Because? ...because of the ability to be able to make the connection with the medium. So the medium has to raise their vibration through meditation. And for me, it's meditation and prayer. They have to lower their frequency. And then there's that gap.

14:33And in between that great little divide there is where the information comes across. and where I think interpretation can go out. I think that they're 100 % accurate in trying to come through. I'm not. The medium's not. We can completely misinterpret. Yeah, but I'm just saying, though, why don't they come through by saying... But they do. ...in this lifetime, when I was human, my name was Susan. They do. They do. Okay. They do it in a way that the medium will have to get it. So, in other words, if somebody is, you know, like I use the analogy... Oh, so you're operating on feeling. Nobody's actually saying anything?

15:02Exactly. It's not an out loud voice. So it's a thought. Thoughts are being communicated from the other side. Thoughts. It's a vibrational thought thing. Absolutely. Okay. You know, like, you have a very good friend named Gail. I'm sure you guys, when you're, you know, talking, you don't even have to finish talking because you're communicating on a higher frequency. Lots of people have that connection. Exactly. Yeah. Sisters do, twins do, best friends do. So you felt like you were talking with your daughter? Heath is talking to your daughter? I did. There were things that she said that I believe that only she would say.

15:39Okay. Like what? Just the fact that she came through as baby girl. We always called her baby girl, and that's how they introduced her. Okay. Okay. That's good. I'm going to give you that one. Yesterday, Darcelle Cumbo came for a reading with John. And what happened? John was not able to read me. He didn't feel any energy at all. Mm-hmm. And so what John had said to us earlier is that sometimes you don't get the reading. Correct. Yeah. That's more believable than not, because, you know, I certainly believe that there's life beyond ourselves. And I've done shows for years and had other psychics.

16:17I do remember this. Does anybody remember Jean Dixon? Yes. Anybody remember Jean Dixon? I was doing a show in Baltimore when I was... It was 1978 in Baltimore, and Jean Dixon was on a show. And after the show, she pulled me aside. this is just a little local show in Baltimore. She pulled me aside to tell me that she saw in my future that I would be speaking to millions of people around the world. And I was in Baltimore talking to 700 people, so I couldn't even imagine what she was saying. And she predicted this life that I have now. She told me I would live like a queen. She told me that I would have access to, you know, major people around the world.

16:52And I was like, I don't know when that's going to happen. I don't know how that's going to happen. And so, yeah, I do believe that some people have that sense of prophecy. Do you have that, too? Absolutely. Every medium is a psychic first. It's kind of like every surgeon has to be a doctor first. So a psychic has the ability to talk about where you're at in your life and what's coming up for you on a projected line of probability, as well as other avenues that are available that, if you make a choice to go a different direction, validate your past. Okay. This is what I want to ask. Why couldn't they do that themselves?

17:23Why couldn't they? Why couldn't they, if they wanted to talk to their deceased sister? Objectivity. Well, they can. And daughter? They can. You can. Everybody. If it's a vibrational frequency, why can't it vibrate with them? It does. Okay. It absolutely does. Okay. So how can all the people here, who are not going to have access to you, but want to be able to be in communication with people who have passed, how do you raise your frequency and get them to lower theirs and communicate with you? Meditation. Yeah. Physically calming your body, opening your mind. I think prayer is extremely important.

17:55I think you have to have a really strong foundation in some type of belief system or faith or spirituality, whatever, to allow yourself to stand in that column of light to be able to say, okay, let's see what this is. I'm ready. I'm ready. I'm ready. I'm ready. I think it's important to journalize and document experiences because I think, as you say, with the skepticism, with the scientist, it's very important to be able to kind of write stuff down and to document it in some way so that you don't rationalize it away. Okay. Well, thank you, John. Thank you. It was a pleasure having you here. Thank you.

18:21NBC's hit TV show, Medium, is based on the life, the real life of my next guest, because she uses her extraordinary psychic abilities to help detectives to solve crimes. So let's check this out. I got it all. I'm both a medium and a psychic. I assist law enforcement to help to bring conclusion to criminal cases. The way that I do that is I head tap the criminal. I get into their head. I hear their thoughts. I look through their eyes. When she was six years old, Allison says she saw her dead great-grandfather appear by the foot of her bed. He was smiling and he said, Tell your mom I'm not in pain anymore.

19:00And then I'm still with her. Allison says she also hears voices. And at 17, one of them actually saved her life. I heard a voice say, Move your bed. So I moved my bed from the south wall to the east wall. And a couple hours after that, a truck came barreling through my bedroom wall and missed my head by not much as it was. So if I hadn't moved the bed, I would have died. Allison is not the only one in the family with a sixth sense. Our oldest daughter, Aurora, and our youngest, Sophia, they're mediums. But Fallon can locate objects like nobody I've ever seen. It doesn't bother my girls to have the souls of any of the victims, the cases I've worked around.

19:42I'm not saying our house is wall-to-wall victims. It's just there are a few that are regulars. We'll call them that, that pop in and out. And we're good with that. Well, first of all, I wanted to ask you, when you went to your mother at six years old, after you had a visit from your grandfather at the foot of the bed and you told your mother what your grandfather had said, what did your mother say? Go back to bed.

20:08She didn't know what to make of it, and it was the 70s. I don't think they knew a lot then what to do with kids like me. And when did you start to take this seriously or believe that it was more than... Well, when I was interning in homicide to be a prosecuting attorney, it was my job to sort the crime scene photos to go to court. And I started seeing things that were happening before the crimes, crime photos had taken place, before the person was actually killed. By looking at the photos? By looking at the photos and just touching the paperwork with their names on it, things of that nature. So I decided to test that theory.

20:41I took three missing persons cases from across the country. I did what I call a write-up, writing impressions on them, and I faxed it to law enforcement that was taking care of that case, expecting I was an overworked mother of three that would never hear back from them. And my conscience could be clean that I tried. And I heard back from Texas, the Tarrant County Sheriff's Department, and they said this information was never released and can you come to Texas? And that was my first case. The information that you had put in the letter had never been released. Right. So you were on to something, you thought.

21:14So I was able to tell them when they would recover the child's body. And how did you know that? I just saw five years in my head, and they found her at four years and nine months after she disappeared. Wow. So we asked Allison if we could watch her in action, and she told us about a missing teenager in Phoenix and let our cameras follow her as she profiled this actual case. So here's some of the information she shared. Jackie's just the sweetest kid, always smiling and laughing. I call her a kid. Yeah, she was 19, but she's always a kid to me. David Hartman's daughter, Jackie, was last seen at this gas station near Phoenix at 1 o 'clock in the morning of January 28.

21:55Her sister dropped her off to meet a man she had first met just two weeks earlier. This wasn't a date. She just wanted to hang out. The family has not seen Jackie since. The next day, police arrested 25-year-old Jonathan Burns. Later, he was charged with first-degree murder, kidnapping, and sexual assault. Police found Jackie's clothing with bullet-like holes in a dumpster near his home. Burns is currently awaiting trial. Hundreds of law enforcement, family, and friends have been searching for Jackie. I've caught myself wanting to call her, just tell her how many people love her. We just got to keep searching.

22:38Got to just finalize this. Allison is asked by a family friend to profile the case with the hope that they can get some answers. My initial impressions that I got before reaching the scene is that I get a city limit sign in the area of where she is now. I do get that she is no longer with us. I believe she had been choked and had lost consciousness before the final impact, which is a little relief, a little solace knowing that she didn't feel I didn't feel what was happening to her. I was shown a funeral and Jackie being laid to rest, so she will be found and her parents will have that. Allison's information, she says, comes in waves.