No Mercy / No Malice: WeBur

18 Nov 2023 · 19 min

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Podcast Episode Notes: The Prof G Pod with Scott Galloway - "No Mercy / No Malice: WeBur"

Episode Overview

  • Host: Scott Galloway
  • Reader: George Hahn
  • Main Theme: Comparison between Uber and WeWork, exploring their divergent paths from unicorn startups to their current states.

Key Points

Introduction

  • Discussion begins with the contrasting fates of two key unicorns: Uber and WeWork.
  • Uber has become a profitable public company valued over $100 billion, while WeWork has filed for bankruptcy after burning through approximately $22 billion.

The Unicorn Era

  • The economic landscape post-2008 saw a surge in unicorns—private companies valued at over $1 billion.
  • Uber's Journey:
  • Second tech company to reach a $50 billion valuation after Facebook.
  • Successful, profitable, and stable in the public market.
  • WeWork's Journey:
  • Peaked at a $47 billion valuation but failed to sustain its growth trajectory.

Factors Leading to Divergence

  1. Idolatry of Innovators:
  2. Both companies were founded by visionary leaders (zealots) who initially attracted significant investment based on passion and ambition.
  3. However, the zealot's inability to evolve into a more pragmatic leadership role often leads to problems as companies mature.
  1. Asset-Light Model:
  2. Uber's model allows it to operate with minimal physical assets, which provides flexibility and resilience during downturns.
  3. In contrast, WeWork’s long-term lease commitments created a financial burden that contributed to its downfall.

Leadership and Governance

  • Uber:
  • Initially led by Travis Kalanick, who engaged in aggressive and often unethical business strategies.
  • Kalanick’s eventual ousting led to the appointment of Dara Khosrowshahi, who implemented necessary governance reforms and strategic changes.
  • Resulted in a positive shift, with Uber reporting profitable quarters.
  • WeWork:
  • Founded by Adam Neumann, whose leadership style fostered a cult-like company culture but also led to disastrous financial decisions.
  • Neumann's extravagant spending and questionable self-dealing led to a significant decline in investor confidence.
  • SoftBank’s involvement and subsequent decisions only exacerbated the situation.

Observations on Business Models

  • The information age favors companies that operate on asset-light models, where scalability is coupled with lower operational risks.
  • WeWork's heavy asset model, reliant on long-term leases, limited its ability to adapt to changing market conditions.

Future Considerations

  • WeWork's Bankruptcy Strategy:
  • Potential for restructuring through bankruptcy, negotiating lease terms to reduce financial obligations.
  • The commercial office market is in decline, providing a chance to renegotiate leases or pivot business models.
  • Potential Solutions for WeWork:
  • Transitioning to an asset-light model similar to hotel businesses, operating through contracts instead of ownership.
  • Exploring franchising or converting to a network-based model akin to Airbnb.

Broader Implications

  • The episode emphasizes the critical nature of leadership evolution in startups and the operational strategies employed.
  • Highlights the importance of adaptability in business strategies in response to market conditions.

Closing Thoughts

  • Scott reflects on personal experiences and the rich tapestry of life, drawing parallels to the entrepreneurial journey.
  • The lesson emphasizes the importance of balancing zeal and pragmatism in leadership for sustainable business success.

Key Takeaways

  • Uber’s success is attributed to its asset-light model and effective transition in leadership, while WeWork’s reliance on fixed assets and poor governance led to its bankruptcy.
  • The episode serves as a cautionary tale about the perils of unchecked ambition and the necessity for sound business practices in the evolving landscape of entrepreneurship.

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0:42Visit sierra.ai to learn more. I'm Scott Galloway, and this is No Mercy, No Malice. Five years ago, two unicorns defined the era, Uber and WeWork. Today, one is a profitable public company, the other bankrupt. What explains the$100 billion delta? Weber, as read by George Hahn.

1:14The tsunami of private capital that crashed against digital innovation after 2008 shaped a new economic entity, the unicorn. Among private companies valued at over$1 billion, dollars, the two that marked the era were Uber and WeWork. Uber was the second tech company to breach a 50 billion dollar private market valuation. Facebook was first. And WeWork peaked at a valuation of 47 billion dollars. Since leaving the barn, their paths have diverged. Uber is publicly traded, profitable, and valued at more than$100 billion. WeWork filed for bankruptcy this week after burning through$22 billion. On its own, lead investor SoftBank emulated$14 billion, likely the largest venture loss in history.

2:17The two businesses raised a combined$44 billion in private capital. substantially more than the total combined capital provided to birth Amazon, Apple, Facebook, Google, and Microsoft. How was Uber able to convert its massive capital horde into a profit-generating enterprise, while WeWork set its cash on fire? I believe two fundamental factors drove these divergent outcomes. the idolatry of innovators and the power of the asset light model. Founding a business that achieves any level of success requires ambition, talent, an irrational belief that this makes sense and most importantly, the ability to attract a flock of investors who consent to engage in your hallucination.

3:13The best founders are zealots. Zealots are high-talent, high-energy people, but they also tend to be narcissistic and divisive assholes. If your thinking takes one to know one, trust your instincts. Zealots make good founders, but as companies mature, the ratio of their passion relative to the cost incurred by their difficult personalities erodes. Maturity calls for sober leaders who are better at managing risk and serving the market's desire for predictable, if not remarkable, growth. Pragmatists Some, i.e. few, founders can make the transition, tempering the quicksilver aspects of their personality without losing their drive or vision.

4:00Watching the evolution of Bill Gates Is to see a man evolve From Australopithecus afarensis To Homo sapiens In one lifetime The wealthiest man in the world Elon Musk Is still dragging his knuckles Across the floor at his companies An anti-Semite Who controls an influential media business And a global communications network What could go wrong? Prediction The records for the most shareholder value created and lost will be set by the same person. But I digress. Uber and WeWork had the blessing and curse to be founded by zealots, men so irrationally committed to their vision that they ignored naysayers, business issues, laws, ethics, and math.

4:55Though to date, a disregard for laws or morality has been a feature, not a bug, across the innovation economy, math proves to be the arbiter of who survives or thrives. WeWork was the ultimate expression of a zealot-founded company exhibiting hyper-growth, a proliferation of side projects, and a company culture based on a cult of personality bordering on a, wait for it, cult. Founder Adam Neumann inspired devotion and elicited hard work from his team, but he created a workplace that felt more like a movie of the week than a public company. It likely could have survived this, as Uber did, but profligate spending, $60 million Gulfstream G650, and self-dealing transactions, like personally licensing the Wee brand to the company for$5.9 million, triggered the market's gag reflex.

5:57Newman's flaws were evident to insiders long before the company's 2019 aborted IPO afforded investors a peek inside the circus tent and required the board to finally address the Newman issue. However, it swapped in one zealot for another. In this case, business history's greatest enabler, SoftBank's Masayoshi Son. The Japanese billionaire was the largest backer of WeWork, having invested$6.4 billion by the time of the failed IPO. And he'd once told Newman he needed to be crazier. Masa doubled down on his investment, literally with a$9.5 billion rescue package, and took over the company himself.

6:46A decent definition of crazy is doing the same thing while expecting a different outcome. So San followed his own advice and became fucking insane, shoveling good money after bad. After a legal fight with Newman and the world's largest blink by Masa, paying Newman a billion for his shares, there was a SPAC and more hemorrhaging of capital. If WeWork was the ultimate zealot firm, Uber was not far behind. The company employed several questionable business strategies under Travis Kalanick's leadership, including spamming competing taxi apps with fake rides, tracking the frequency of one-night stands by city, and coining the Uber home the ride of glory, and generally evading or breaking the law.

7:40Several fraud accusations, sexual harassment scandals, and a revolt by five of the company's largest investors later, and Kalanick was forced to resign. He also sold most of his shares to SoftBank, but Masa subsequently had to unload them to pay for his losses in other investments, including WeWork. WeWork enabled Newman even after it fired him. Uber, in contrast, belatedly demonstrated admirable corporate governance. The board kicked Kalanick out and brought in a deft pragmatist, Dara Khosrowshahi. Dara learned his craft at the feet of Hall of Fame operator Barry Diller, then spent 12 years as CEO of Expedia honing it.

8:31Perhaps the best evidence that Khosrowshahi was the right person for the job? He turned it down. Quote, why would I ever jump into that mess, was his response. And when he told Diller he was considering it, his mentor said, you're fucking crazy, and hung up on him. After changing his mind, he led Uber through painful but necessary changes. Four years ago, the company's Q3 loss was$1.2 billion. This year, a net profit of$221 million. its second straight profitable quarter. That will likely continue. Pragmatist For most of business history, having assets was good, and having more was even better.

9:21However, one of technology's tectonic unlocks has been elevating information, bits, over objects, atoms. In the information age, owning assets is one business while operating them is another. And each demands distinct capital structures, management approaches, and operational skills. Businesses offering the greatest return on invested capital don't have much capital assets and can scale up faster, as they don't bind themselves to cars, apartments, or even inventory. Think Amazon Marketplace. Using other people's assets makes firms more resilient because they can scale down as inexpensively during bad times as they scaled up.

10:13I wrote about this in 2020, reflecting on the lessons of the pandemic. Quote, Uber rents space in other people's cars, driven by non-employees, in the eyes of the law anyway. The second an Uber car stops making the company a profit, the asset and labor disappears and costs the company nearly nothing. Revenue can go to zero in a crisis, and Uber can reduce costs 60 to 80 percent. Hertz, on the other hand, owns its cars and went bankrupt. Boeing has$10 billion in cash, but if its revenue goes down 80%, they can take costs down maybe 10%, maybe 20%. Unquote. When WeWork filed its ill-fated IPO prospectus in 2019, one of the many frightening pieces of information was its lease commitments.

11:13While WeWork did not own the buildings it operated, it entered into long-term lease contracts with landlords, which is the next best or worst thing to ownership. This gave WeWork sole use of and responsibility for that real estate, functionally similar to buying the property with long-term financing. As of its attempted IPO, So WeWork was contractually obligated to pay$47.2 billion in lease payments over the next 15 years. That's enough to build 31 Burj Khalifas from the ground up. Fast forward to 2023, and those lease obligations have pushed WeWork into bankruptcy. On September 6th, the CEO acknowledged they were, quote, quote, two-thirds of total operating expenses and are dramatically out of step with current market conditions, unquote, and announced plans to renegotiate them.

12:17The we-know-we're-contractually-obligated-to-pay-but-would-rather-pay-less conversation didn't go well. Uber, in contrast, has been able to navigate the departure of its CEO and rising and falling competition and has made strategic bets of varying success in food, logistics, and other related businesses because of the flexibility of its asset-light model. WeWork has only one means of survival, rent more desks. It couldn't, so it didn't. Bankruptcy, one of capitalism's best features, is handcrafted for a firm whose main problem is lease commitments. One path forward for WeWork would be to use bankruptcy to look over its office portfolio, get out of the leases of underperforming locations, and get better deals on the good ones.

13:17It ought to have some leverage. The commercial office market has been a shitshow since the pandemic, with values down 25 % year-to-date after losing 38 % last year. Office property values are expected to be 40 % lower by 2029 than they were in 2019. Think about this. It's likely U.S. commercial office space has shed more gross value than any asset class globally. A Sophie's choice of cut this rate in half or we walk may be an offer your average landlord can't refuse. But there may be a better way. Go asset light and ask someone else to own that space. Hotel brands figured this out decades ago, and there's nothing WeWork resembles more than a hotel.

14:14They are both R-E-A-A-S, to borrow an acronym from tech, real estate as a service. Here's how the Four Seasons and the Ritz do it. They run their hotels through operating contracts with the building owners, earning them fees and a share of top-line revenue. It's the one weird trick that converts a business weighed down by expensive, illiquid real estate into a 21st century asset light operation. Another approach would be to franchise the business, which is what WeWork version 2, the era after firing Newman and before Chapter 11, did with its international operations. The franchises have to sort out their real estate risk and strategy, but they have the benefit of local expertise.

15:05The extreme asset light option would be to go full Uber, though the better analogy is Airbnb. Convert the business into a network of providers who bring their own office spaces to rent. But that's neither the promise nor product that WeWork offers and it's likely fraught with security risks and operational challenges. Both WeWork and Uber have an asset that is worth billions. Brands that have reached Elysium. They are the generic term for their category. WeWork's brand has been dinged by the business failures of the past few years, but the impact of corporate missteps on consumer brands is typically muted.

15:50Airlines, for example, can't stay out of bankruptcy court, American, Delta, and United all being recent examples, but their brands keep flying. I expect more than a few potential buyers are fielding brand equity surveys right now, gauging the strength of WeWork's potentially most valuable asset. My bet is Barry Sternlich brings the firm out of bankruptcy. We'll see. All of this assumes there's a market for what WeWork is selling. There is. Three in four workers would take a flexible work environment over better pay. But for most people under 40, the kitchen table or local Starbucks, another brand that could get into this space, isn't going to cut it.

16:40And a WeWork contract is more attractive than a lease to an employer looking to go asset light. The service aspect of short-term and small lot rentals is the office-based business of the future. The asset base is an albatross. In the C-suite, The zealot and pragmatist personality types are sequential regarding a firm's evolution. In relationships, the two mix well. I've been going through pictures from a backpacking trip I took through Europe with my friend Lee 35 years ago. He brought maps, a wallet belt, and traveler's checks. On the train, he'd plan out our day, and I would comb the train and try to find new friends, i.e.

17:26women, we could hang out with at our destination. Lee and I shared the same doctor, Raul Zimmerman, who summarized our relationship when he heard we were headed to Europe. Quote,

17:42Lee and his husband came to watch me on Bill Maher a couple weeks ago, and Lee pulled me aside afterward and said, I'm just so proud of you and what you've accomplished. This was so meaningful for me. I think of myself as a fairly fearless person, but I've never had the confidence to say this to a male friend. Still time. Anyway, we've been making and missing trains for four decades. So blessed.

18:21Life is so rich.

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