573: How I Grew My Hobby Travel Blogs to $50K Months in Just 3 Years

25:03So don't burn yourself out if your limit is one every two weeks. And you can do one really, really, really good blog every two weeks, then that's where you're at right now. And it accumulates. I didn't start at 180. I started at zero like everyone else, but eventually it just, it compounds. So know where your sweet spot is, know what's actually sustainable for you. That's not going to burn you out because if you get burnt out, you don't make it to 180. You don't make it to four. So be real with yourself, know what you can do, and then just before you know it. And there starts to be, at least in my case, some overlap between the articles.

25:45I think it was partially inspired by your interview on Niche Pursuits. We talked about best hotels in this city with kids, with pets, for solo travelers, you know, trying to go down, you know, best romantic hotel, like you kind of go down these different long tail variations. and this is something that I've been building out really for the last couple of years, best side hustles or even just side hustles would be like the high level keyword that I would love to rank for. But then side hustles for accountants, side hustles for teachers, side hustles for nurses, side hustles for moms, like all of these different longer tail variations.

26:20A lot of these listicles have become pretty quick to create because you're not really writing it completely from scratch. You're pulling from existing content interviews that you already have. So I want to thank you for that little soundbite of insight. But that's something, and it's almost looking at the Google Search Console data and trying to figure out, I got a toehold here. Google gods, like you said, have bestowed a perceived sense of authority on topic XYZ. And okay, let me lean into that. Let me really build out the rest of that content since they already are giving me some traffic for that or at least give me some impressions for that.

26:57Yeah. Like actually when I first started to, so the site is Travel Mexico Solo and I traveled Mexico by myself for a very long time. And I really wanted to be like this solo travel writer. Right. And after a year, maybe less, I couldn't rank for any of that solo travel stuff. There was already enough female travelers writing about it that had really established sites. And all the data was like, well, you are ranking for Mexico. and like again like that was a huge pivot I had to do I had to be like okay well to be successful I have to follow this path that's been laid out for me or I can just be like no I'm gonna write about solo travel and that's what I'm gonna do so that's the constant like also pivot of the entrepreneur dance but yeah I explained it like topic clusters is like the terminology I use for those kind of things but you'd be surprised like I think if you start doing keyword research like you'll look up, let's say hotels in New York city.

27:56Right. And it's like probably a hundred thousand monthly searches. Let's say it's probably a huge volume. And you're like, well, that's what I want to rank for. Right. But like, you kind of don't, right. Because like, what if you're someone traveling with a pet and you don't really care about the absolute quote unquote best hotels, you only care about the one that's going to let your dog into it. So like the same thing with kids. A lot of hotels, especially nice hotels that would rank on these best of lists, don't allow kids or don't allow young kids. They all have different stipulations. Or maybe you need a balcony for whatever reason.

28:34Hotels with a balcony is actually a big thing. And then hotels with free airport shuttles or free breakfast. I don't eat breakfast, so I didn't even think about that one. But those come up a lot. And like, if you're not renting a car, a free airport shuttle is a really nice perk. So for someone that might be their hard no, like I only want someone that's going to pick me up at the airport. I'd really don't care about the best hotel where like I enter and angels fly down. Like I don't care about it. I just want the free breakfast. I have six kids with me, whatever the case may be. Like some people's hard no's are different from others.

29:11Their deal friendly New York hotels is probably one fifth or maybe less than hotels in New York. Those people only want those hotels, right? You don't have to really convince them. You just have to kind of put that content in front of them. Whereas if they clicked on best hotels in New York, now they have to do the work to find which ones they can bring their dog to. Right. And now you've got an opportunity to link to your preferred hotel booking provider as an affiliate. That's the monetization game or the primary monetization game at this point. Yeah. So you make commission, their sales are even easier.

29:48It's the exact thing, the exact person, what they were looking for. Yeah. The riches are in the niches. The riches are in the niches. All right. And so I imagine similar with the tours, like you mentioned rental cars, I don't know what else is big in the travel space for affiliate partnerships. I say that the big five are tours, hotels, and hotels could mean hostels or Airbnb, like we mentioned, does not have a program, but VRBO still does. But I don't know too many people doing very well with VRBO because it's just Airbnb is Google and VRBO is Bing. People just aren't using it for whatever reason.

30:23So tours, hotels, or any accommodation, travel insurance, physical products, and car rentals are like the big five. But that's also very niche dependent. So people in the hiking niche, let's say, hiking travel, like for me, I put physical products at number five for myself, but they might be more closer to two or one even because people are not staying in the hotels and those kind of things. So you can kind of swap how that goes. And I also think the most successful bloggers and entrepreneurs are thinking outside the box. So I think those are the big five for general as a general statement. but yours might be different and you might have something that's not even on the list.

31:10Right. So that's helpful on the affiliate side. And then getting accepted into the Mediavine ad network once you have, what, 50 ,000 monthly page views? What's their traffic threshold these days? It is, but we just went into G4. So I don't know how they're measuring now because G4 doesn't really measure that. So I'm not sure, but it was 50 ,000 sessions, which is actual people coming to your site, like 50 ,000 monthly people coming to your site. Yeah. I don't know if it changed or not. Like literally it was G4 was like a few days ago. So I'm not sure if anything changed on their side. I'm still trying to figure out the Google analytics for like, okay, I think I've switched over.

31:51It seems to be collecting data. I don't know. In any case, we all are. That's the thing. Are you doing anything proactive to build backlinks to the site either today or in the early days because I see lots of nice press mentions has featured in these high end publications and stuff for the site now. But wondering what the backlink building strategy has been like? I did so many guest posts in the beginning. And this was a thing that so many other people starting out were like, well, I'm not going to make content for somebody else. Like I want it for me. And I get that. Like it seems counterintuitive to like write an entire post and then give it to someone else.

32:32But when you do that, they're going to give you backlinks to your site. And backlinks, I think are the number one thing that people are like, I don't want to do it. I don't want to do it. I don't want to do it. I'm just going to ignore it. But unless like other sites are backlinking to you, which in the eyes of Google looks like essentially a vote. So a site with a lot of authority is like, hey, this site is great. That's really the fastest way to get your like foot in the door. Honestly, I think it was through backlinking. So that was another thing where a lot of people were like, I'm not doing it.

33:00I don't want to do it. I don't want to do it. And I was like, I'll do it. I'll do it. I'll do it. So I wrote a ton of guest posts my first year blogging. Now I actually do get a lot of organic backlinks just because if you're ranking number one for certain things, like people will reach out to you. Like HuffPost just emailed me. They were working on something about Tulum, Mexico and asked me for a quote. So that just happened organically because my site probably ranked for something for Tulum that they just Googled and I came up. I just got a backlink from Time Magazine not too long ago about something for one of my smaller sites, but I got those organically, but I worked my butt off to get to that level.

33:48So that's it. I mean, I did a lot of hard work. Was this through networking in these travel bloggers, Facebook groups or these Mexico specific sites that you were targeting? Like, do you have an example of the kind of post you would write or the outreach pitch to that blogger that you would send? Facebook groups are really, I would say essential for travel bloggers, especially starting out. There's like five or six that are maybe five that are really active. And you want to join those. And then within those, you'll see a couple things. One is called collabs. These are like collaborative posts where you only write about 200 words on a topic.

34:28So let's say I have a pretty established site and I want to make a post about the best bars in New York City. And so I'll put a post in this Facebook group and it'll say, does anyone want to contribute for this? And then you do, you say, yes, I'm going to write about this bar. And they say yes or no. and then you send them what you write and usually a photo, one of your original photos, and they post it with a link to your site. So it only took you maybe 20 minutes because you're only writing like 200 words. But you're also in this post with like 20 other bloggers that are all going to have other links.

35:05So they will say that you're diluting the link juice because there's so many links. But another way to get all of the link juice is to do a guest post, which is where you write a full post. For someone else, they will usually give you probably two backlinks for like 2 ,500 words or 2 ,000 words. It depends. Everyone makes their own rules. And then no one else's links is in there, let's say, competing for attention with yours. But those are very time consuming. But people will say they're more beneficial. I did both. I did so many of both my first year as a blogger. And if there's one thing that I think people hate doing the most, It's backlinking.

35:45But I always tell people, there's just parts of your job that suck. If you're an actress, there's the most glamorous job in the world. There's a lot of parts that are just awful. And this might just be the awful part. But that doesn't mean you get to just skip it. Yeah, that's fair. Yeah, it's kind of like the necessary evil of building a website. And it's painful to write those 2 ,000 words, 2 ,500 words, and then just, I don't even get to publish this on my own site. Send it off. into the world, building relationships with other bloggers, whether or not they're in your same niche or not, but just being part of that community and participating in these collabs and participating in, you know, just making these guest posts.

36:27It's kind of what you got to do just to build even an initial backlink profile, 10, 20, 50, just to say like, oh, other people are linking to this site. It exists, right? How do I get out of that sandbox? Have other people vote for you on the internet. And here's one way to do it. Another way, and one of my favorite ways is through podcast guesting. And for a couple years, at least it looks like you hosted the Dream to Destination podcast. It's been on pause for a little bit. I don't know if that resulted in any backlinks or what the talk to me about the podcast strategy and why it's on pause at the moment.

37:01I was doing the podcast in 2020. And I loved doing the podcast. But it was like, I feel like you only get to do one thing, really. It was easier for me to just blog and not do the podcast. So I stopped doing the podcast that said it wasn't making money, wasn't a hard decision. Even though I loved it, it wasn't a hard decision to stop doing it. But yeah, I think like podcasting is a full-time job, right? So I couldn't have two part-time jobs at a time when I wasn't making money from either one of them. So it was just like a business decision. But I don't know if I got any good backlinks. I do have backlinks from the podcast hosts like Spotify and Stitcher and maybe a couple others.

37:45So yeah, I probably did get some good backlinks from that. Yeah, for what those may be worth. It's something, yeah, I mean, even though I've just put out like a 10 part series, here's the travel to Mexico 101. Like, I don't know. That's an interesting thought. I don't know if that has any merit, but. I think it could work for someone else if you like, I don't know at what point, like, Like, do they just give you a backlink? I'm not sure. But in the show notes, yeah, I do link. Because what I did with mine was some of them are kind of just digitized, I guess, audio. Auditized, yeah. Blogs. I'm not like reading the blog necessarily, but the episode is based off of content that was already written.

38:22So in the show notes, it says like based off of this blog. I was doing like one solo episode and one with a guest. So I would link to their blog. So yeah, I'd imagine they did get some pretty good backlinks. I imagine the day is coming if it's not here already, where you could, you know, probably an AI tool to get you to read the podcast or read the blog post that you've already written into podcast form and continue the next season of that. People definitely do it. People do it. I got the idea from somebody else. It wasn't like my genius idea. I don't know if that would be painful to listen to as a robot reading this blog post, maybe, but it might be out there.

38:57Now that said, are you doing any AI content for any of the sites? I do not. I'm not anti-AI in any way. I just have not done it. I think it's maybe to my own detriment that I haven't done it because I think it just keeps changing so quickly. So like, I remember seeing this one site that used to outrank me all the time. And I went and like looked at one of their articles once and it just was like jumping around from talking about Mexico. There was even some mention of like some desert oasis in Iraq. Like, and it was clear that it was like, chat GPT, like 1.0. And I was like, I am above that, you know, like, whatever, like, some kind of writer on my high horse kind of thing.

39:44I think it's a different world now. And I think it's like, I should be doing it. But I don't have any words of AI content on any of my sites. And in a way, I think that's how you stand out. Because when you land on the homepage, page. It says, Hey, I'm Shelly. I know Mexico inside and out. I've lived here for years. And so it's like, you build this level of trust that is a little bit harder if you're kind of just an anonymous publisher pumping out copy and paste from the AI tools. A guest on the show recently described it as kind of like a junior marketing assistant. And that's how I've been using it to, you know, brainstorm subject lines, brainstorm titles, answer a question like, what did I miss in this article?

40:23And you just kind of like, Oh, here's two or three things that I hadn't considered. Let me create a little blurb about those or email copy or, you know, just help me instead of starting from a blank page. Help me out here. Let me start with this. But you find it uses a lot of words that you wouldn't necessarily use. And you can add extra prompts to have it speak more in your voice. But it's definitely an interesting one. Yeah, I think it's kind of what I a lot of bloggers do. I mean, I think it's just like put SEO or like old school SEO methods into like one place. So if I'm like doing research of like making an article outline and I'm going to Google and I'm checking what's in like what's called the SERPs or the basically what's coming up in the search results.

41:05And I'm checking to see like what's in their articles. Like we don't know exactly the thing that Google's like, well, that's the thing I love so much. And any first page article has to have that. But when you go through the top 10, you start seeing like, well, this is in all of them and this is in all of them and this is in all of them. So I must I should have that in mind, too. And I think that's what AI is doing. A lot of side hustlers suffer from what if-itis. What if it doesn't work? What if I don't have the skills? What if I pick the wrong path? But one thing 100 % of our amazing guests have in common is they took their shot.

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42:15Sign up for your$1 per month trial and start selling today at shopify.com slash side hustle. Go to shopify.com slash side hustle. Shopify.com slash side hustle. I was going to ask, so we did the affiliate side for the revenue. We did the advertising side for the revenue. I noticed there's a digital product for sale, an ebook on Travel Mexico Guide. It's a piece of the revenue pie. Is that significant at this point? No, the book is not significant. I think I just was like, let me do some digital product. Like sometimes when you start like learning a new thing, like I started going down the rabbit hole of email marketing and they're like, well, you should have a product to sell.

42:57So I was like, well, let me make a book really quickly. I know that sounds weird, but I write really fast. I actually did make a book very quickly. The book is not promoted well, but I actually just think like having an ebook is an outdated product. I keep thinking about doing like a video course, like a lower ticket video course as a product. I think it would just resonate better. Someone asked me like a month ago about the ebook and I'm like, just don't do it. No, not worth it. That's my advice on an ebook. I think like a guide might be a good idea, but I just don't know that like you're capturing enough people with a book that they're going to sit down and read a whole book.

43:36Like I was like, oh, more pages, more pages, more pages. And now it's like 180 pages. And I'm like, wait, like who has the time for that? So I don't know. for me, like the book was a definite miss. I'm sure there's a ton of people out there doing books that are doing way better than me. I think if I would have invested into doing the book properly for Amazon and things like that, it would have been different. But yeah, the way I'm doing the book is a misstep. I would say don't copy the way I'm doing a book. That's fair. On the email marketing side, the opt in is how to not get sick on your trip to Mexico.

44:11and I wanted to ask about converting all of this flood of these 300 ,000 visitors a month into email subscribers. So if they bounce off and never come back, at least I have a chance to continue that conversation through email. So can you speak to the email strategy and what kind of stuff you're sending out to this list or how big the list is at this point? The total list, I think is 8 ,000 people. I think about 1 ,500 is from the travel blogging side. it's just kind of guesstimation numbers I have several opt-ins that's just one of them I think the way to see the most success is not necessarily a blanket opt-in maybe for different sites that might work and that also might work for a smaller country like I don't know like a Sweden guide right but like Mexico's just doesn't function that way because it's so big and like going to Mexico City is very different than going to the beaches of Mexico things like that so I have different guides that correspond to like larger high traffic blogs, let's say the sick how to not get sick is obviously like a big thing for Mexico.

45:13People always are like, can I drink the water and that kind of stuff. So that's kind of my like generic opt in. But then I have the niche opt ins to anything you can get to get people onto your email list, I would suggest doing people say the money's in the list, and they are very, very correct. So what kind of stuff are you sending They don't. The travel blogging list is way more monetized than the Mexico travel list. I'm still a little confused on how to monetize the Mexico list, but I'm also I've only been doing email marketing for like six months, I would say, like actively doing it. But I do know someone who's doing so she's doing OK with the travel because it's the travel one's weird, because especially because my audience is like 90 percent U.S.

45:54and U.S. people just don't have a lot of vacation time. Right. So like. Right. They plan in this one trip, they go on it and they're done. They're like, why am I still on this list? Yeah, it's a one and done. So for me, I've been seeing so much more success with my travel blogging sites email list, because it's people wanting to learn travel blogging. So that's the one I've been focusing on. But you have to be consistent. I send out emails every week, no matter if I feel like it or not. And it's, I would say it's a half and half, like that's kind of where my sweet spot seems to be where it's like one email is just like free tips, free information, or like I recorded this loom about this topic for you, things like that.

46:34And then the other one probably is promoting some kind of paid topic. It varies all the time. But a lot of people are just like, well, what's she doing? What's she using? And I'm just like, this is the thing I'm using. And this is my affiliate link if it sounds like it's for you too. And that's it. And that email list only has like 1500 people. But I just did a product launch last month and it was a$3 ,500 launch for like a pretty small email list. And I still consider myself a beginner to email marketing, but literally that was from sending out like four emails. Yeah. That's the power of getting in people's inbox with a message that is timely and relevant and helpful.

47:14And that makes a lot of sense. But those people like you, like no one stays on your email list if they hate you or dislike you maybe hates a strong word but the people coming to your blog for travel blogs it tends to be one and done so they might get onto your email list because they want the freebie and then forget about coming off or not I don't really know my freebie is actually has a lot of affiliate links in it so I do make money off my freebies which is something I don't think a lot of people do but also like people I think after Pinterest had a big algorithm change in 2020. And so many people were getting traffic just from Pinterest.

47:54Like a lot of bloggers weren't even doing SEO, but then overnight Pinterest changed their algorithm and everyone lost their traffic. Like from day to day, Google algorithm changes all the time more than any one of us would like for it to change. Instagram just changes their rules whenever they feel like it. We don't own the people on social media. I don't even own, let's say the people who come to my site who genuinely want to come to my site like that's up to google but you own the people i don't own is a weird word but like you have direct access to the people on your email list regardless of algorithm updates or social media policy changes like when facebook changed their algorithm several years back and they just like basically stopped showing any content from facebook groups and it became like a pay-to-play like people lost their businesses overnight.

48:44And the email list is the closest thing to a guarantee. Yeah, that's the, again, going back to potential risks of being your own website owner. It's like, well, I got to deal with affiliate programs going away. I got to deal with my traffic getting cut in half from some random algorithm update, even though I was playing by the rules. It did everything I was supposed to do. It just, you might wake up tomorrow and have a new challenge to get to deal with can relate to all of those things. Now, I had a question. You mentioned there are a handful of other travel sites and they're all Mexico destination specific.

49:18And so there's a site on Tulum, there's a site on Oaxaca. The question is why branch out and have to start this process over with a brand new site and go through this link building process instead of just building that Oaxaca section out underneath the Travel Mexico solo umbrella and the positive domain authority that already exists? Because I knew other people were going to start those sites. And when they did, they would outrank me. Okay, because it was like, it would be perceived as being even more relevant, even more specific. Yeah. Okay. I mean, the first niche site I did was when I was living in Merida, Mexico.

49:54And I actually was thinking about doing tours. I don't have the personality for that. So I gave that up really fast. But that site, I got onto Mediavine in like three months. No, I think it was four months. I was able to scale that 25 times faster than the Mexico site, which I scaled pretty fast. One of my niche sites is doing$5 ,000 months through affiliates because I just cut the line. You cut the line with your niche. That's it. You still have to win the race, but you go to the front of the line. So that's it. The niche sites are just faster to go. That's interesting. Is it because of that topical authority?

50:32Like, look, we are the go to place for this very, very specific destination. So Mexico is a big country. I think it's like the 10th biggest country, right? So like, I don't know that this applies to Sweden, right? But I mean, maybe someone with a Stockholm site is easier to rank for that kind of content than if you're doing a larger Sweden site about the whole country. So the riches are in the niches. Yeah. Now starting over, would you go for that micro niche solo city or solo state destination style of site first or go, I like my path, I'm going broad first, and then adding on these smaller destination specific niche sites?

51:12It depends if it's a, is it a tiny, are you writing about Luxembourg, like a literal very, very tiny, tiny country or a very big country? So that's like something to consider. There needs to be some kind of volume. It has to like, are tourists coming there, period? If it's not, then maybe the city doesn't make sense. Maybe the country makes sense. Maybe the region makes sense. Things like that. And not every site's going to be a seven-figure site, but are you happy with a six-figure site? And then once you hit six figures with one site, just do it again, kind of thing. And you can have a seven-figure business, even from not seven-figure sites.

51:50Right. The ceiling may be lower, but the ramp up maybe faster if I'm interpreting that correctly. And I'll give the example. This is I'm trying to formulate a cohesive theory around this. But like from blog post to business is an interesting spinoff that I've seen. So I've had a couple posts where I've seen people take that idea, and maybe not necessarily from me or inspired by me, but like turn that into a whole standalone thing. And one was on like alternative investment platforms. And you're here's 79 alternative investment like people would take that and then turn that into its own niche like hey you want to invest in trading cards or wine or artwork or commercial real estate like okay we're going to become the go-to authority on that where it was just one post under this broad side hustle umbrella they're like no we can build out the authority in that space we've seen people do it with focus groups and even with like a gig economy type of stuff where if you sign up for postmates or not Postmates don't even exist anymore, but sign up for Uber Eats and stuff.

52:51And we'll tell you what are the best opportunities in your area. So I think that's helpful as well. Now, Shelly, I want to ask you three years deep into this. You mentioned having three or four writers on your team plus an editor. What's a day in the life look like today from a website operator's perspective? It's always weird when I answer these because I feel like I run two businesses now. I also have a blog manager and she really does a lot of the day to day and I have a VA. So she does like the layouts of the posts and things like that. So the blogs, the travel blogs, I would say kind of run on their own.

53:21They don't, they run by other people who are just not me. That's kind of awesome. I still have a lot of involvement because a lot of the writers have not been to Mexico. So I am the quality control and I'm the one who has my original photos. So I have to kind of line those things up with the words and stuff like that. So I would say I'm like, yeah, quality control, which could be maybe 20 hours a month, depending on how many articles people do that month. Like everyone's a freelancer, so they kind of make their own schedule sort of thing. So you're doing kind of the keyword research. Here's the upcoming content calendar of what we want to publish.

53:59And then the writers will go ahead and tackle that. I've been doing keyword research, but it's definitely a task that's sort of being worked out by the blog manager these days a little more and more consistently publishing new stuff versus just letting it sit. Hey, we're done. We've covered every quarter of the country. Like we don't have to do this anymore. Oh yeah. I'm far from that. So that's not the case for me, but yeah. And I like to work in like clusters. So like if I'm going to build out a destination kind of mini cluster, I'll just use all the articles that month with keywords about that.

54:34All right. So that's, that's helpful. So you got the blog manager kind of overseeing things, the writers doing their thing, pumping out the content based on the keyword research. And then your time is spent with the Travel Blogging 101 site. And what else is going on? Now that the blog kind of runs on its own or runs without me, well, the travel blogs, not just the blog, I focus a lot more on making courses and working with students one-on-one that want to learn travel blogging and that more importantly, want to learn how to scale as fast as I did. So I spend a lot of time on the Travel Blogging 101 site now more than the Travel Blogs.

55:17Yeah, makes a lot of sense. I imagine people tuning into this and be like, yeah, I want to learn how Shelly did this, how she did it so quickly. So I encourage you to check out TravelBlogging101.com and learn a little bit more over there. Shelly, this has been awesome. I've learned a ton, took a ton of notes. As always, let's wrap this thing up with your number one tip for Side Hustle Nation? My number one tip is if you want to start a travel blog, start a travel blog right now. If you don't do it now, if you're thinking like, well, I'll wait till it's perfect. Next year is going to come, right?

55:49So you're either going to be one year smarter with your blog, one year better, or you're going to be wanting to start one year older. And that's it. So if you want to start, just start. It's not going to be perfect. No one starts perfect, but no one who's successful didn't start. Absolutely. Next year is going to come either way. And a friend of mine has a shirt says a year from now, you're going to wish you started today. So I feel you there. I have a few notes before we wrap up. First thing is kind of this idea of take what's being given to you. And by that, I mean, this perceived authority that you've established in the eyes of Google on your topic.

56:26Hey, double down on that build out that topic cluster. That's your toehold. That's kind of your permission to go dive a little bit deeper into that. Shelly mentioned investing in courses as really an accelerator, as a shortcut. There's so much to learn when it comes to running websites and building out content and SEO and email marketing and all of the pieces of this puzzle. You can learn one thing at a time. You can shortcut that learning curve by paying attention to other people who haven't done it, who have gone before you. And then the third thing was just this idea of niching down both in terms of topics, and in terms of keywords, where it's like getting very, very specific, might not have a ton of search volume.

57:07But if it's high intent, high buyer intent, it might still be super valuable in terms of affiliate commissions, planting these little digital assets, these little money seeds out there on the internet, I think good results will follow from that. But again, appreciate everybody tuning in. If you're new to the show, make sure to grab your personalized playlist at hustle.show. All you got to do is answer a few short multiple choice questions. I'll build you a custom curated playlist that you can add to your device. You can learn what works and go forth and make some more money. Again, that's at hustle.show.

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58:10Hustle on.

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