648: The 10 Best Side Hustles of the Year

26 Dec 2024 · 58 min

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The Side Hustle Show - Episode 648: The 10 Best Side Hustles of the Year

Overview In this episode, host Nick Loper reflects on the most impactful side hustles discussed throughout the year, sharing the top ten that generated excitement and engagement among listeners. The focus is on actionable advice for those looking to start or grow their side hustles.

Key Themes and Highlights

Importance of Reflection

  • As the year comes to a close, it is crucial to assess which side hustles stood out and resonated with the audience.
  • The selection of "best" side hustles is subjective and encourages listener engagement through feedback and discussion.

The Top 10 Side Hustles

  1. $100 a Day Challenge (Episode 594)
  2. Guest: Jackie Mitchell
  3. Jackie earned over $10,000 in 100 days through side hustles like paid surveys and mobile game testing.
  4. Key Platforms:
  5. Prolific: High-paying survey site, often for academic research.
  6. Swagbucks: Mobile game testing for rewards.
  1. Website Rentals (Episode 597)
  2. Concept: Build a niche website, optimize it for local SEO, and rent it to local service providers.
  3. Potential earnings range from $500 to $1,500/month.
  1. Vending Machine Business (Episode 599)
  2. Guest: Mike Hoffman
  3. Passive income potential by placing vending machines in high-traffic locations.
  4. Requires strategic location selection and customer insights.
  1. Billboard Business (Episode 608)
  2. Guest: Chris Brown
  3. Profitable venture involving purchasing and renting out billboard space.
  4. Profits can be substantial depending on location and competition.
  1. Photo Organizing Service (Episode 619)
  2. Guest: Cheryl DeFrank
  3. A unique service with high demand, charging around $100/hour.
  4. Combines both digital and physical photo organization.
  1. Software Consulting (Episode 627)
  2. Guest: Christy DeSilva
  3. Specialization in software tools like HoneyBook and ClickUp.
  4. Builds authority and client trust through targeted content creation.
  1. Window Washing (Episode 630)
  2. Guest: Jack Leimbach
  3. Local service business amplified through online advertising.
  4. Jack's creative marketing resulted in significant revenue growth.
  1. Junk Land Flipping (Episode 629)
  2. Guest: Wayne Seminoff
  3. A real estate strategy focused on acquiring undervalued land and clearing title issues.
  4. Significant profit potential by converting junk land into buildable lots.
  1. Digital Products on Etsy (Episode 637)
  2. Guest: Debbie Gartner
  3. Low-risk digital product business, generating consistent income via Etsy.
  4. Emphasizes patience and consistent effort in product development.
  1. Remote Cleaning Business (Episode 645)
  2. Guest: Skylar Sullivan
  3. Matches clients with cleaning service providers, aiming for a scalable model.
  4. Focuses on building a brand and hiring reliable cleaners.

Conclusion Nick wraps up the episode by emphasizing the diversity of side hustle opportunities available to aspiring entrepreneurs. Each highlighted hustle showcases different skills and market needs, encouraging listeners to explore and engage with the ideas that resonate with them.

Additional Resources

  • Spotify Playlist: Access the best side hustles of the year easily through a curated playlist.
  • Full Show Notes: Detailed show notes and additional resources available on [Side Hustle Nation](https://www.sidehustlenation.com/best-of-24).

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0:00It's time for the 10 best side hustles of the year. What's up, what's up? Nick Loper here. Welcome to The Side Hustle Show. It's the entrepreneurship podcast you can actually apply. Now, the end of the year is upon us, which means it's time to reflect back on the side hustles that stood out, the ones that got people talking, the ones that I was most excited to share. Now, the mark of a good episode for me is when I hang up the call thinking like, dang, I need to drop what I'm doing and go do that. Whatever it was we just talked about, I could totally do that. I should totally do that. And I try and exercise some level of discipline in and restraint because the shiny object syndrome is real.

0:35But when the shiny object shines for me, I know it's going to be a hit episode. So I have selected my top 10 for the year. If you're new to the show, I'll do my best to reference episode numbers so you can go back and check out the ones that you're interested in. I've also put all of those into a Spotify playlist that I will link up in the description, make it easy to go add that to your device. And if you're a longtime listener, see if your favorites made the list. Which ones did I miss? There's room for debate in all of best is always subjective. These are in mostly chronological and numerical order, starting at the beginning of the year with an absolute banger of an episode.

1:09The most downloaded episode of the year, almost 75 ,000 downloads to date, was Jackie Mitchell and her$100 per day side hustle challenge. This was episode 594, and Jackie broke down how she successfully earned over$10 ,000 in 100 days from her personal$100 per day challenge. A good chunk of that income came from what I would call plug and play side hustles. For example, she mentioned paid surveys, mobile game testing through Swagbucks could be worthwhile if you like playing mobile games. Now her best paying spot for surveys was through a platform called Prolific. Prolific is going to always be at the top of my list.

1:47This is a survey site that researchers use. A lot of times they're post-grad students or medical researchers or psychological researchers. And they're paying pretty well per hour for short little surveys. So maybe it's a 10-minute survey, but it pays like$7. Well, that's really good if you break down... In terms of an hourly rate. Yeah, exactly. Right. So Prolific gives you mostly, I would say, 30-minute and under surveys. It's just prolific.com. Anyone can sign up. I do believe that they are often on a wait list because of demographics. I would say consistently, when surveys are available, I can make anywhere from like$10 to$30 a day doing that.

2:2410 to 30 bucks a day, nothing to sneeze at, especially if that is in alignment with your side hustle goals. Jackie also mentioned paid focus groups, kind of few and far between, but can pay$50 to$200 an hour. I'll link up some of my favorite resources for those in the show notes at sidehustlenation.com slash best of 24. Another side hustle she talked about was data annotation, which I ended up testing out myself as well. Data annotation is one that I I would rate a three out of five, just as my disclaimer, in terms of accessibility and kind of like, is the work enjoyable to do? I would say most likely no, but it pays well and it's an interesting site.

3:02So Data Annotation and I'll group another site, Remo Tasks, are both in the business of training large language models. So AI, think of things like Google Bard, think of things like OpenAI, ChatGPT. GPT. So a lot of it is kind of veiled to the workers in terms of like which ones you're training. And some of that is just because you're signing different disclosures. You're essentially freelancing for one of these major companies. But the majority of your work is going to be editing and classifying and fact checking large language model responses. So maybe you're given two responses from two different versions of a language model.

3:37You're fact checking it for accuracy, that it's not making up information. You're looking at if it was too verbose, did it run on and just give you way too much information that it didn't really need to give you? Was the grammar okay? Stuff like that. So there's a lot of different subsets within both RIMO tasks and data annotation. You can get put on a lot of different tasks. There's more specific ones for people who code, which I know pay a ton, which is amazing if you code. I don't. Every time I see a qualification pop up for that, I wish I did. But typically, these will pay anywhere from$15 to$25 an hour, in my experience.

4:11Okay. It's not bad. It's not nothing. No, I don't think so. No. What's the primary site that you're doing this through? Data annotation is the name of the site. Yep. Data annotation.tech. Okay. The one that I signed up for was Remote Tasks to try and check it out. And I was almost deterred. It was like, I got to do it for the blog post. I got to stick through this. But the onboarding process took probably a couple hours worth of training the things. You had to do an editing task, like that's easy enough. Like, okay, I would cross out this sentence, or this is the way I would phrase that instead to be more concise or whatever.

4:43Then you had to come up with a prompt response on your own. And there was one that was factual, like, you know, make an argument for X, Y, Z. I forget what he's like, well, why should we cut NASA's budget or something? Like, oh, okay, well, people are starving. So the money would be better allocated. Like you can make that argument. But the other one was like a fiction response or like a creative response. And that one was like, dang, I was I was really proud of what I came up with in the end, like about 500 words. It was like pretty decent sized, what I considered like the opening of a book. But it was like almost through the towel.

5:15It was like, this is pretty time consuming. Yeah, I feel that way. Data annotation is super similar. And to my understanding, they really do screen out a lot of people through that test, which is not to say that you pass because you have X, Y, Z. It is heavily geared towards people who enjoy long form writing, who enjoy fact checking and editing, who have very strong grammar skills. I think data annotation says something like grammar and writing skills and like critical reasoning are the things that they look for. So you don't have to have degrees, anything like that, but it is grueling work. So I don't know how far you got into Remo Tasks after that, but people who come to my page and say like, I took the data annotation test.

5:50That was awful. I can't wait to get in. I'm like, well, that's all that it is, though. That's exactly what you're if you take the test and you don't like it. That's all the prompts and all the work. Once I was accepted into Remo Tasks, I earned 15 bucks for my first hour of actual annotation work, which isn't bad if that's something that you might like to do. I'll link up my full Remo Tasks review in the show notes as well. Again, sidehustlenation.com slash best of 24. I just got a kick out of the whole episode with Jackie. So make sure to go back and check that one out if you missed it. Episode 594 in your podcast player app.

6:22Moving on to number two, and I should add that this list isn't in order from best to worst or anything like that. I'm just going in the order that the episodes aired. But number two is website rentals. And this was a unique side hustle shared in episode 597, where the name of the game is to build out a descriptive website for a local niche service. I want to say concrete driveway repair in Wellington, New Zealand was one that we talked about as one example, but you know, niche service plus location. Step two, get that site ranking in Google, open up your local SEO playbook, do what works there.

6:58And then number three, where the side hustle comes in or step three is to rent out that site to a qualified local service provider who's hungry for more leads. In some cases, these sites can rent for 500 to 1000 to maybe 1500 bucks per month, or maybe even more depending on the traffic and the customer value, and they're relatively hands-off. Once you've got a service provider in place, they'll handle the inbound customer inquiries, and you're just in charge of making sure the site stays at the top of Google. This is Miao Rios describing what makes a good niche for this rank-and-rent model. I like something that's service-based, that you don't have a storefront.

7:39Basically, like a plumber, the concrete guy, or a roofer, you go to the client's site to work. So it's not that people come into your office. So service-based business. The second one is I really like those high ticket type of work, like concrete, driveways, patios, earthwork, demolition, roofing, nothing sexy, nothing sexy, but those niche work, they work. And that's because the value of these jobs is worth quite a bit to the service provider. And so they're just like, if we can get more leads in, if we can book up our calendar, then yeah, it's worthwhile. We'll just add this to our monthly marketing budget.

8:19Yeah, exactly. I've done the smaller niche, like handyman. I probably would not do handyman again. Having said that, I have a handyman site that's producing lots of, lots of leads. And business has been with me since the beginning when I started business. So, and sometimes like a smaller niche, like a gather cleaning can be good because it's high volume. So you get like 60 to 90 leads per month. But the thing with gutter cleaning is sometimes you start a job with gutter cleaning and you find out the gutter needs a repair, the roof needs a repair, the roof needs repaint. So a small job can turn into a bigger job.

8:57You just never know. So, but my personal favorite is still a bigger ticket niche. Do you like to go deep in one location or deep in one niche? or like it's really a matter of like trying to find the sweet spot of I'm going to do carpet cleaning in Dallas and then I'm going to build out all these other niches for Dallas or I'm going to go do carpet cleaning in 100 different cities. There's two ways to tackle this. So if it's a big city like with a population of a million and above, I like to go either niche down. So for example, if it's concrete, I don't do all concrete. I just specialize at a certain type of concrete, either as a stamped concrete or concrete resurfacing or concrete driveway.

9:41So you have to be the specialist in the service that you provide. I found you get a lot more success than just do something in general in the big city. Okay, the bigger the city, the more niche down. Yeah, so niche down for a big city. And if it's a big city, also you can, let's say for New York City, it's just too big. So you have to niche down to different boroughs like Manhattan or Brooklyn or Queens, Long Island. So yeah, either niche down to the specialized area or niche down to the local area. So that's a general rule. I found anything above 50K should work the population wise. I'm talking about 400K population wise seems to be a very sweet spot.

10:22So it's not too big city. Your local competition is not that strong and you have enough volume. The population produce enough leads, enough search volume that is going to help you to rent the site out. Okay, cool. And I swear I was on Wikipedia at one point. Like here's a list of cities with population, you know, 100 ,000 to 250 ,000. Or you could probably just ask ChatGPT at this point, like come up with this list for me and there's a potential starting point. Anything else that goes to, I'm trying to cross-reference these cities. Am I looking at the local competition yet? Or am I? Yes. One thing I'm doing, I'll just actually give you an example that just shows you the initial research.

11:04Sometimes it's not about what you provide, it has to be good enough, it's about your competition. So I'll give you an example of two sites I've built. One is in Wellington, the capital city in New Zealand. On the data, it shows that the landscaping business has a huge demand, very high volume. the keyword difficulty is medium so you have the local competition so i thought given that how much demand i'm going to build a site for landscaping a few months down the track the site is ranking however the quality of leads and the number of leads are not great so we're still producing the leads but it's just not ideal so what i did is i built a specialized so i work at this landscaping company and they do all the paving concrete artificial grass retaining everything and then what we did is we found the concrete driveway in the local area there's no company just do concrete driveway there's a lot of landscaping company there's a lot of a concrete company just does a very general general contractor but no company does concrete driveway so i built a site for concrete driveway in wellington and that site blew up it's completely blew up so what happens is this contractor, if a client wants a concrete driveway down in front of the house, sometimes they've got to do the backyard.

12:25They need a retaining wall again. They need paving work again. So it's finding the right market to get into, therefore dominate. So you're still providing the same service. However, it is extremely important to actually pick the niche that with very little competition. Interesting. So it was the landscaping company that was doing the driveways? Yes. So that's the same. It's the same company. The local landscaping company, there are a few big ones that have a good name. So they dominate the market. So it's very hard for someone small to medium business to just get into the market. Because when people think about landscaping, there's a big name out there.

13:02But if you change your arena to the concrete driveway, well, no company is doing that, like specializing that. So it's just really easy to get into. And you ended up getting or the landscaping work, but through the right channel. That's really interesting. Trying to find that back door, that side door into the place. Like maybe it's number six on our menu of service offerings. But if I try to rank for general landscaping, it's really tough. But if I try and rank for concrete driveways. Paving, yeah, a different, just specialized niche. Meow mentioned looking at SEMrush data for keyword difficulty and trying to find those keywords with a difficulty score under 20.

13:40This is a metric of competitiveness. how hard it's going to be to rank for a certain keyword combination of service plus location. That is episode 597 in your podcast feed. Really interesting one. And where it's really common to stack a bunch of these sites together to form a really strong income that's somewhat diversified and somewhat predictable month after month. You've got recurring revenue. And if your client is making money from your leads, it's a service that they're unlikely to cancel. And if you've got the skills to build one of these sites and get it up and running, you can rinse and repeat in a new niche or New City.

14:12I forget how many Meow had, but I want to say it was 20 or more. So we got more of the best side hustles of the year coming up right after this. One of the tools I personally see make a huge difference for business owners is Quo, formerly OpenPhone. It's the same great business phone system you've heard me talk about before, just with a new name. When you're running a business, you know that every missed call is a missed opportunity. So Quo, formerly OpenPhone, this is the number one business phone system that streamlines your customer communications. It works through an app on your phone or your computer.

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16:34Speeds may slow above 35 gigabytes on unlimited plan. Taxes and fees extra. See Mint Mobile for details. The next episode that really got people talking, including my then 10-year-old neighbor, was number 599 on how to start a vending machine business. I mean, these are literally money-making robots that can make you passive sales when you're not around. So I get the appeal. I hung up the policy and like, man, I want to start a vending business. Now the challenge is finding the right location with a hungry crowd. This is Mike Hoffman from that episode explaining what makes a good location and how we might make that pitch.

17:07Oh, it's super easy. I think the first thing is the examples you just rattled off. So senior center and let's say an apartment complex, the thing they all have in common is they have a front desk person that works there. So you can just roll right in there. They're not going to know you from anyone else. And you can just say, Hey, is your general manager or your property manager in today? And if she's like, oh no, you can always ask for the business card and send an email. But yeah, that's exactly what I did. That first location I landed, I was like, hey, is your manager in? And she happened to be in.

17:36She's like, oh my gosh, coming with COVID, we can't put out refreshments, blah, blah, blah. We want to move forward. It's just such a low barrier to entry by just doing that pop in. Your ask was like, tell me about your current vending situation. Like, what's that line? Yeah. Or just like, do you want to provide modern amenities? And then you just start asking questions about foot traffic to qualify them. So how many people live here or how many units are here? And they'll say, okay, Nick, there's 200 units. And then you're like, okay, well, how many people live in those units? Cause some might be two or three bedroom.

18:07They're like, oh, 400 people. Like right away, you're sitting on a 1500 to two grand gold mine just with that. Is there a minimum residency or occupancy that you're looking for? Yeah. Yeah, we like to target 100 units as a minimum or 100 plus employees. Okay. 100 residential units or 100 employees. It's hard to imagine an office building without this in there already, but you're finding like, this building has been here for 25 years. No one has ever asked us about vending before. You know, that's a great idea. Like, does that happen? All the time. And in fact, what you'd be really surprised about is we're taking over a lot of the market.

18:45So current user, let's say that location, they probably already have vending machines that aren't being stocked because the baby boomer generation doesn't use a cell phone. The only way they can track inventory is driving by the property where like on my phone across the country, I can look at all my vending machines, even my micro market in Philadelphia and see what I've done in sales in the last hour. so then I can get ahead of what needs stocked before it actually shows up empty customer facing. I'm like, okay, we've sold eight out of 10 salads. We have two left. We need to backfill those salads.

19:21Where right now, these places we're taking over for, they either have vending machines that are broken. They have vending machines that don't allow credit card usage. Well, guess what? 80 % of your sales are going to be with card, not cash anymore. Yeah. So it's not so much that they have never considered vending. It's that their existing provider is not living up to expectations or it could be doing better. Yeah, it's like either that existing provider took on a bigger, let's say the Coke provider of Washington has vending as a side service. Well, is that Coke provider more worried about topping off the cafeteria with Coke in the school?

19:59Or are they more worried about the teacher's lounge vending machine? A good location with the right product mix can earn 500 bucks a month. You place 10 of these machines, you got yourself a$5 ,000 a month side hustle. I think Mike had 10 or 15 when we spoke and maybe a couple employee less automated micro markets as kind of the next stage of the business. Now you still got to stock the machines. It's not totally passive, but you can find people to help with that. And that's a good problem. If you need to restock, it means you moved some inventory. To learn more, definitely check out that episode with Mike, number 599.

20:28We talk startup costs, logistics, all that jazz, and he's helping other people get started in this world as well at vendingpreneurs.com. Kind of tricky to spell. I will link that up in the show notes for this episode. Again, at sidehustlenation.com slash best of 24. The next side hustle I want to highlight is one that you probably drive by every day without even thinking about it. That is, until you heard, episode 608 with Chris Brown. Chris runs a billboard business in Arkansas that generates thousands of dollars a month in, again, relatively passive income. Now, just like real estate and like vending machines, it's all about location and the level of local competition that dictate how much you can charge.

21:07Here's Chris describing his first billboard deal and how much it made. Yeah, the first deal was very interesting. So he was just willing to get out. He actually showed me the invoice of his cost to put it in the ground, what he had on it. That included the land. He didn't even want the land or anything. He was about to go bankrupt, so he really didn't care. Oh, okay. So he actually showed that to me. So that was$75 ,000, which again, And I didn't know that the point was a great deal, but it was a great deal. And I was able to purchase that from him. And he sold it to me. It's right in the middle of a intersection.

21:38So it's literally surrounded by three roads. People have to drive underneath the billboard, which is very interesting and was a little concerning. So I actually had to get the city to sign off on it to say, hey, look, we're good with it staying because I was really not sure about that if they were going to make it take down or not and didn't want to buy something if that was going to happen. So it did get hit a few times. Oh my God, like by a really tall truck or something? Yes, yes. Because the original road did not actually have the road that went underneath it. So people would normally have curved around it.

22:08And then they added this as on my property, but it never was addressed. And so it started out as like a little dirt cut through and then people, they paved it and it became a main part of the road. So really interesting spot. Yes. There's a combination of this real estate play plus a media play. How many eyeballs like am I going to get over here? They go to turn around and then sell that ad inventory. Okay, so 75 grand for the land and the structure to go out there. And then you go out and try and find a new advertiser for it. What happens next? Yeah, so once I acquired it, I actually then did.

22:39I called up a few local businesses and said, hey, I had some friends that own businesses, some heating and air companies, some furniture companies, some car dealerships. And I said, hey, would you guys be interested? And it was in the middle of a great location. It was kind of a random spot right by a bunch of neighborhoods where you wouldn't expect a billboard. So they jumped on it. And some of those people are still advertising today. And that was in 2011. So we're talking 13 years later, they still have the same advertisers on a few of them. Okay. Yeah. Long-term. I mean, yeah, if they're seeing a positive ROI on it, yeah, just keep it rolling.

23:09Yes. Because there's three elementary schools and junior highs and high schools right by it. It's just a great location. So that's how I got the first one is I'm driving around. I found one, decided I kind of wanted that. I was already looking for real estate itself. So I was into single family flips. I was into land acquisition and commercial property and multifamily. But then I saw that and I thought about it was a very interesting way to play the land game or as just a different play to own the business, have the media and have the passive income from the billboards themselves. What did you end up selling the first spot on that first billboard for?

23:42Yeah. So each spot on the billboard. So that first billboard had four billboards on it for signs. Each one of those was about$600 each. That was the first day. I had no idea how to price them. So what I did was just called some of the other billboards around and said, all right, what are you guys pricing these at? Because I just acted like an interested billboard buyer and they were glad to tell me what their rates were. And so I was able to find that and give that deal to people. I just wanted them full to cover my cost on that so that I would have just some positive cash flow coming in every month.

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24:11A four-sided thing or it's like one of these mechanic rotating type of deal? Yeah, it was a top and a bottom on both sides. So it was a good old-fashioned, there was four static billboards. So we call them static. So in billboards, there's static, there's digital, and then there's actually TriVision. But most are static or digital. So you have just the ones that are flat. They don't change. They stay the same 24-7. And then you have the digital that actually then rotate in as a LED screen. The one that's closest to us that I can think of, I think it, so it's two-sided, right? So you get people going both directions.

24:42And I want to say there's two different advertisers on each side. Like it somehow flips and then every now and again. Yep. So then there's a TriVision. So those actually flip through. Yeah, the slats get broken. It's just like half of one and half of the other and stuff. Okay. So about four signs, 600 bucks each. We're at$2 ,400 a month in income there. Okay. And so then penciled that against the acquisition costs. And I have learned to not do math on air, but that's close to$29 ,000 for the year, which pencils out. ROI is about three. Yeah. Three years and you're breaking even on that purchase cost.

25:16Total purchase cost. Yeah. Paid back in three. I promise you'll never look at billboards the same way again. Again, that was episode 608 with Chris Brown. Really interesting side hustle. That's equal parts real estate and media. Next on my list is one that I shared with a ton of people just because of the novelty factor. I never knew this was a thing. And that was Cheryl DeFrank's photo organizing business in episode 619. In that episode, she said she had more than enough work to keep herself busy full time and that the average rate is around$100 an hour, and that the average project could be 20 hours or more.

25:50It seems like a relatively low competition side hustle, like there simply aren't that many service providers doing this yet. And there's a novelty factor when you strike up a conversation about it. Cheryl did her first project for free to get the hang of it, which gave her the confidence to go after paid photo organizing work. Here's how she described getting the business off the ground. I just started talking to friends, and my first actual paying client was another friend who just said, hey, can you help me out with the photos on my phone? Because they're such a mess. I know I've got so many duplicates.

26:20Everybody has tons of duplicates. It was a relatively small project, but I helped her out and she was grateful. And then she just started talking to other people. A lot of people would say to start with friends and family. And that's a good idea. I mean, they obviously will already kind of have a certain amount of faith in you and already want to support you. But it can also be a little bit hard to work with friends and family. So I kind of started spreading the word as quickly as possible. I'm on a neighborhood listserv, so which is kind of like Nexo. It's basically an email listserv. All the families in my kids' school are on a listserv.

26:55All the people that belong to our pool are on another listserv and so on. So you've got all these different kind of groups. Either I would post something about my services, and sometimes there's rules about self-promotion, but either I would post something or a friend would post something for me, kind of maybe even a scripted thing like, Like, hey, you guys wouldn't believe this person I found to organize all your photos and give her a call. And of course, now, years later, my previous clients will post things on their own listservs. So just the word kind of spreads. And the phone hasn't really stopped ringing in 10 years based on just kind of word of mouth.

27:30I always say, like, someone told me early on, and this is probably true in every business, someone told me early on to put your company name and kind of a little tagline of what you do at the bottom of every single email you write, no matter who you're sending it to, whether it's a business email or not. Yeah, and it's not a new concept. But in my case, because it is so unique, I'll send an email to somebody about my son's lacrosse game or something or lacrosse team, and they'll see what I'll do. And they'll write me back having nothing to do with lacrosse, but say, wait, what is that you do? I see you're a photo organizer.

28:03Like, what's that? And then it might turn into a job, might turn into a project. It's a conversation starter, if nothing else. And we've talked about that. It absolutely is. That email signature space, underutilized marketing, real estate, in some cases. I was assuming this was going to be almost all digital. But when starting locally, I guess maybe it is in person. So it's that box in the attic. It's like the physical pictures. And so does it need to be kind of a local radius for it? It's both. It's really both. The three main areas of photo organizing. Number one is the print photos. These are usually maybe older families that still have print photos in the attic.

28:39It's a mess. They've been hiding up there for years. And so they'll give me the boxes of print photos for me to organize and sort. And usually it's chronologically. For the most part, because there is a physical exchange there, those are usually local clients. But I've had people mail me boxes and boxes of photos from other places. So that's one area. And then the other area is digital photo organizing, which is, again, the photos on the phone and the hard drives and all those little camera cards that we have in all kinds of drawers around the house and so on, that the clients also have no idea where everything is or what's on these hard drives.

29:14So in that case, again, it certainly can be local, but then you can have people either send me hard drives or sometimes, for instance, and we'll log into their online storage. So for instance, I can log into a person's iCloud or a person's Google Photos or something obviously with their permission and organize straight online and never meet the client in person. And then the third aspect, which is kind of one of the main areas is scanning or digitizing photos. There's certain photo organizers that just do that. So they just do scanning and they don't really even do the sorting process. So there's lots of different aspects.

29:50And then there's other kind of offshoots like just creating photo books. There are certain organizers, their specialty is creating photo books for all kinds of different events or slideshows, kind of anything having to do with photos that a lot of people either just have no idea how to do or don't want to spend the time figuring it out. Or the other thing too is working with your own photos, whatever you're doing, whether you're sorting them, whether you're creating a slideshow, trying to pick the photos for the slideshow is a very emotional process when you're working with your own photos. So what I tell clients, which is true, is there's no emotion for me.

30:26So I can do it much, much faster. And I'm not reliving my son's three-year birthday party in the process and so on. What do you think? Is this a side hustle you could take action on? Would you hire a photo organizer yourself? Again, episode 619 with Cheryl to get the full scoop on her unique service business. I selected the next side hustle on this list because it's the one I probably tell more people to start than any other, and that's software consulting. The specific example I want to highlight from this year is Christy DeSilva from DeSilva Life. Christy's built a really strong brand and business specializing in support for two different software tools, HoneyBook and ClickUp.

31:03The reason I like this model so much is you don't have to create demand from scratch. If you find the right software, maybe it's one you're an early user of, you're a fan of, they'll likely be heavily investing in growing their user base. A lot of times these companies have raised venture capital and they're investing in user acquisition, customer acquisition. So if you can create content to help those people, those new customers, it's easy to get found or at least easier than shouting into the void of the internet without piggybacking on some built-in search volume around the name of a specific software like Christy does with HoneyBook and ClickUp.

31:39The other reason it's so powerful is by niching down and becoming a sought after expert in a specific software is the pricing power that comes with it. I started my rates a lot lower than other people may have been charging because I'm like, I'm not like a top tier expert yet, but I know that I know a lot more about these products than the people that I'm serving and these softwares than the people that I'm serving. And so I was still able to charge more technically hourly, except a lot of our stuff is flat right now. For example, yeah, making about 30 to 40 bucks an hour as a VA, where now I charge$300 an hour for a strategy session.

32:21Like so crazy, that jump. But now being an expert in this for four years, it's really cool to see. It is really cool to see. She 10X'd her hourly rate by niching down from generalist to specialist. And how does she find customers? Well, in most cases, they find her. That's what's cool about this. She creates helpful, keyword-targeted Q &A content for YouTube and invites viewers to take the next step, either scheduling a call or downloading some free resources. Here's how she described the YouTube strategy. We get the majority of our leads from YouTube, and I will say like probably 80 % of the time people come on, they're like, oh my gosh, it's so nice to meet you.

32:57I've been subscribed to your channels for like two or three years and they feel like they already know me, even though I have no idea who they are yet. It's funny because it's a huge thing in sales is that like no like and trust factor. And we already solved that piece before we even ever get on a sales call. Yeah. You know, you're showing your face, your voice. Yeah. You build a lot of trust that way. deciding what type of content to make any sort of like keyword research tools or search volume that goes into it. I'm just looking at like broad Google searches, you know, 400 ,000 monthly searches for ClickUp and then 60 ,000 for HoneyBook.

33:36And so there's some decent like top level search volume, but then I imagine it kind of goes into that long tail for like how to run your agency in HoneyBook, like more specific type of searches. We actually really love VidIQ. We were using TubeBuddy for a while and then we started getting into vidIQ. They have some really cool things with like AI and their platform is a bit more robust, I feel. We look at our channel and we do quarterly content planning. We do yearly at a high level and then we do quarterly. And we try to do like themed content, like themed months. And now we're starting to get into like different series.

34:14And we'll look at what performed best on our channels or like what's ranking highest. Like for example, our ClickUp dashboards video was ranking highest for like a long time, our how to use HoneyBook and ClickUp yearly videos. Like in 2024, those always do really well as well. So we're like, okay, we'll always do those in the beginning of the year. But we'll look back at our previous content, what's highly ranking, knowing people want more of that. And then we'll really just start doing long tail keyword research in vidIQ, you know, kind of going down a rabbit hole of like, okay, how are these ranking in terms of search volume and things like that?

34:54Is there a minimum search volume that is interesting to you or worthwhile to make the video about? It's more like how it scores in vidIQ. I think we're looking over like a 60 or 70 ranking. Which is a combination of volume and competitiveness. Yeah, exactly. And so we also, speaking of competitiveness, we'll definitely do competitor research as well because we have like a few competitors. We're very niche, but we absolutely have competitors. And so we'll look at their channels, what's ranking high on their channels. And by no means do we ever just copy their video, but we'll be like, okay, cool.

35:32They did something on this specific topic. how can we do something similar but have our own spin? And so we'll do that research as well. Again, this is something you can replicate across any number of different niches. We've seen examples of people doing this with Asana, with QuickBooks, with FreshBooks, with Salesforce, with Excel, with different WordPress themes and plugins. It's one that is ripe for replication. Be sure to check out the full episode number 627 with Christy to learn more. The rest of our best side hustles of the year are coming up right after this. There are less than 100 days left in 2025, which means less than 100 days left to hit those goals that you said or to refocus your energy on what really matters.

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38:04Sign up for your$1 per month trial and start selling today at shopify.com slash side hustle. Go to shopify.com slash side hustle. Shopify.com slash side hustle. This year, I was lucky enough to connect with a pair of Jacks, Jack Fleming and Jack Leimbach, both really inspiring young college-aged entrepreneurs. Jack Fleming had built up his lawn mowing and yard care service to 70 grand in profit as a teenager and ended up selling off a portion of the business. It was a great story, starting out pushing the lawnmower up and down the sidewalk, I think starting at 13 years old, and then continuing to level up and bid bigger and more complex projects.

38:46That was episode 610. And a little bit later in the year, in episode 630, we met Jack Leimbach, who had a similar local service business, only instead of lawn mowing, it was window washing. When we recorded, Jack was about to start his sophomore year in college, but was already selling 10 grand worth of window washing every month. Now, like the other Jack, the business started out by going door to door, and that worked, but it was tedious. And if you've ever gone cold calling, you know you deal with a lot of rejection and sometimes just flat out rude people. So it was when Jack layered on a level of online advertising and combined that with some better equipment when the business really started to blow up.

39:25I made my first Instagram ad and I posted it on Facebook. I posted it on Instagram. Facebook didn't do very good. So I just, I took it off Facebook, kind of put all the money towards Instagram and I was just spending$10 a day, like really nothing. And then I was knocking on the side of it. But just that one ad after spending$600, it generated me$10 ,000 in revenue just from the ad. And that doesn't even include the word of mouth I got from it or recurring customers, whatever it is. But the return on investment on online advertising is huge. Wow. That's crazy because it's probably like super location targeted.

40:00Probably, I imagine you'd like want to target homeowners, above average income level. You probably set it really, really targeted. Yeah. There's a bunch of little, little things you can add in. I want it to be a woman that's 35 to 65 and I want it to be right in my area. But in all these ads, the super important part is, so I made a video. They were all super funny. I tried to make them like super entertaining to listen to. But the most important part was right at the beginning, I'd say, Hey, Evergreen or Hey, Auburn. That way people know I'm talking to them and they're not just going to skip it because they see the send message, which shows it's an ad.

40:35So they're not just going to skip it right away. And they actually might listen because they know I'm targeting it right to them. And then I'm going to throw in a joke a little bit after. So for example, for my Auburn ad, I posted this one about six days ago and I've just, I've put in 60 bucks into it. I've already booked$2 ,500 worth of jobs with it. It's been doing super good. But what I said, I said, hey, Auburn, there's a huge epidemic going around the Auburn and Opelika area. Your windows are looking like this or this or this, and it's going to cause some serious permanent damage that's going to seriously lower your property value.

41:07And then, you know, I did this funny little transition where I did a little jump and I went from my normal clothes to like my uniform with my belt on. And people love that. But then I have all these moms texting me and they're like, or DMing me and they say, Hey, like I love a quote. And then you get there and then you do your spiel. Okay. Okay. So that's the call to action. I love that. There's a huge epidemic if there are any windows going around. And then you show the visuals, you're like, and then you can see people looking up at there. It's like, yeah, when was the last time those were clean?

41:35So then the call to action is message me for a quote or message me to schedule an appointment. Yeah, so at the very end, I tell them all the services I do. And I say, I know you need at least one of these done. So give me a text. And I point up and then my number pops up. But most people just DM me and it says at the bottom, like the whole time you're reaching, it says send message. And then they can just send a message and it's super duper easy. Most people just say, hey, I'd love a quote. And then maybe they send their address and I say, okay, I'll be there tomorrow, blah, blah, blah. And then they're like, oh, that's super easy.

42:05Okay. How cool. What a great return on investment on that. And then while you're out on the job, of course, there's opportunity to go get some warm or semi-warm leads from the neighbors. Hey, we're working on so-and-so's house next door and try and turn one job into two. Yeah. So typically how we structure our business plan for the day is we schedule one house from an ad or that we've knocked on a previous day. And we schedule one house per day, like per morning or whenever we start working. And then when we get to that house, normally one person starts cleaning while the other goes knocking to line up the rest of the day.

42:36And that's how we're able to fill up our schedule so often, just because we already have that name. And so we can say, oh, Michelle down the road, like that's where we're at. And that builds that level of trust. And you're more likely to land the client. Yeah. Leaning on the job that you were able to book And then being able to say, as soon as we're done there, we'll come over here versus, well, let's book it. Well, you know, the motivation might wane if you wait too long. We're only going to schedule one per day and then trust and hope that we can get some more jobs to fill up the schedule. Yeah.

43:05When people are calling you out, usually they got a couple people that are asking for a quote. And so you're trying to just beat those other people. But when you're doing door to door, you know, there's that appeal of the homeowner to just like get it done right away. And so, you know, you're not really competing with other people. And the homeowner just loves the fact that like, okay, these guys can do it in literally an hour. They can get me a price in 30 seconds. Like I might as well just hear the price. And then, you know, if I want it done today, like that'd be great. What both the Jacks showed me was that the money's out there if you're willing to go and get it.

43:34And maybe they had the advantage of youth when knocking on doors. But I still think there's a big opportunity in local home services, lawn care, window washing, house cleaning, car detailing, gutter cleaning, you name it. Another side hustle I just couldn't help but tell people about was Wayne Seminoff's junk land flipping business, highlighted in episode 629. Wayne holds the record as the most experienced side hustle show guest at age 81 when we recorded, and he said he's been doing his unique land business for the last 40 years. Now, the name of the game here is to find these unwanted, unloved, vacant parcels.

44:08Maybe they've got title issues. Maybe they're too small to get a building permit. Maybe there's no sewer or septic. Wayne picks a handful of these up every year at the tax auction and or sometimes is able to make a deal with the seller before the public sale and then opens up his bag of tricks and works with City Hall to make the lot buildable. It's more like legal and red tape work than it is bulldozers and hammers. But if you can get that stamp of approval for a building permit, all of a sudden that lot is worth 10 to 100 times what he paid for it. And the key to it is pretty simple. Generally, junk land is junk because you can't build on it.

44:45But I found there was like seven tools you can use to change junk land into buildable land. And one is like variances. You get a variance from the building code. Or let's say you need a boundary line adjustment or title problems or whatever the problem is on the property, if you can isolate that problem and then correct it, your value dramatically increases a hundred times. I mean, like literally a hundred times. I'll give you an example of that. I bought a property a year ago in Issaquah, which is a really hot area, bought a half acre lot with water, sewer, power, road access right across the street from Target, and I paid$1 ,000 for it.

45:29And then the reason I bought it for$1 ,000 is the guy who had owned it for like 20 years couldn't sell it to anybody because he had a title problem. He couldn't get clear title from the title insurance company. So he was going to let it go on the tax sale. So I called him before the tax sale, and I said, hey, are you going to let it go on the tax sale? And he says, yes, I'm going to let it go on the tax sale. And I go, well, I'll buy it from you, you know, and don't let it go on the tax sale. And I said, I'll give you$500 for it. And he goes, no, no, no, no, no. You think I'm crazy? And I say, well, how much do you want for it?

46:02He goes, I'll take$1 ,000 for it. I need to pause and say like, you know, any piece of land just given the path of development in this area is worth significantly more than even$1 ,000. So you're thinking he's like, hey, dude, don't lowball me. Come on. I know what I'm sitting on. But he's like, I didn't really want that much more. It always shocks me. And I always come back, do that lowball thing. and they always come back with low, low counter offers. And so he said, if you send me$1 ,000, I'll sign over the deed to you. And so him and his sister owned it. So I got his sister and him to sign it.

46:38And I just sent him the deed electronically. And then I Venmo'd him the money. So he had the money immediately. And then he just sent it back to me. And I had a deal. So then I took this gorgeous piece of land. Right now it's owned for one unit. In that area, one unit of land is worth$500 ,000, one housing unit. And so I went to my attorney, and I said, I need to do a quiet title and clear this title. And I looked into what the problems were on the title, and I found some supporting data to give to the attorney to make the quiet title action go smoother. And it took him four and a half months.

47:16And at the end of four and a half months, he gave me clear title. and I got a title report that says, I'm the sole owner of the property and nobody else can challenge it. And now today, that$1 ,000 property is worth$500 ,000 right now. Yeah, so you have$1 ,000 into it plus some legal fees. Yeah, they cost me$15 ,000 for clearing the title. So for$16 ,000, I'm going to make$500 ,000. Right, wow. That sounds pretty good, right? That would get people on their toes, right? then that's not enough. Okay. So this lot is subdividable. So I'm applying for a short subdivision. I'm going to split the lot in two and two lots in that area are worth a million dollars.

48:01So in four months from now, when the short subdivision is over in Issaquah, I'll have two separate lots and I'll have a million dollars worth of land for about$25 ,000 total investment. I'll have a million dollar property. Now there's a lot to unpack here, but it was such an interesting conversation. And Wayne just happened to be local to me. It definitely got me looking at some vacant parcels nearby. I think the side hustle might be best if you've got a little bit of legal background, maybe a little bit of real estate background, you enjoy a little bit of a treasure hunt. And I got the impression that at this stage of his life, Wayne's just in it for the game, the thrill of the big win.

48:38And I could be wrong on that, but that was my impression. Episode 629, fascinating one, definitely check it out. And I think what I love most about my job is even 11 years into the show, I'm still coming across people like Wayne, people like Cheryl, people like Chris with the billboard business who've got businesses I've never heard of, never thought about before. Number nine on our list of the best side hustles of the year is Debbie Gartner's digital products business on Etsy. This is episode 637. This episode stood out to me for a few reasons. First, it's low risk, low overhead. It's a business where you can sell the same product to multiple different customers.

49:14That always appeals to me. Second, it wasn't an overnight hit. It took Debbie a couple years of admittedly very part-time effort to build the business to$1 ,000 a week or around$4 ,000 a month. I think a lot of people will see that result, but not the slow, consistent asset building effort that it took to get there. And third, what was maybe most interesting to me was her product idea generation methods, which went all the way back to her as a kid thinking, well, what did she really like to do? Just like with blogging, you start with, what do you know? What do you like? And how can you leverage that?

49:49So the simplest thing, like a blood pressure, one page tracker is all I did. I did other things like that. And then I started getting into games because I've always loved games. So I created a July 4th trivia game just because I had a blog post on my website that was for July 4th fireworks, you know, in my county. So I did that. And of course, it was, I don't know, November. So it wasn't very relevant. Okay. You got to skate where the puck is going, right? Okay. Come July, there's going to be some demand for this. Okay. Exactly. So then I said, okay, I made it done, but it proves to me that there's an opportunity here.

50:31So now let me do another trivia game. So I did a trivia game for Thanksgiving. And then I said, okay, well, there's Hanukkah and there's Christmas. And you just keep going through all the different holidays. I would do that. I would do different games. And I just had fun with that because it was really interesting. I just enjoyed it. There was the solar eclipse this year. So I did several solar eclipse games. So whatever is kind of of the moment or coming up, let's call it two to three months in advance, I would do it. And then I would just keep doing different things I was interested in or that I wanted to learn more about.

51:11And that's kind of how I did it. At some point, I had this realization that when I was younger, like in high school, I had this conversation with one of my friends in math class. You know, like, what do you want to do when you grow up? and I told them I wanted to be a puzzle master. Okay, okay. You know, like Will Shorts does, except at that point in time, Will Shorts, I didn't know who he was. He wasn't anyone famous, but I'm like, I want to do something like that, but there's no such job. So I just went to college and had a regular job. Yeah, like a virtual escape room coordinator or that's a really interesting one.

51:51I had a similar, because now you're making money doing that, taking it back to high school, I had, you know, my job shadow day would have been junior, senior year, was going down to like the sports broadcast office for Channel 5 in Seattle. And I was like, yeah, it's super irrelevant to what I'm doing today. And then my buddy was like, you're kind of in media, you know, that seems actually pretty relevant. So I was like, oh, it's kind of this weird full circle moment of, yeah, I guess that it's kind of is broadcast media in a way. Exactly. There's so many things I've done in my life in different jobs and different courses I took in college or high school or just, you know, continuing ed courses or hobbies or anything.

52:33And so then I just kept going through my brain like, what do I like? What am I interested in? And then I would try to understand, is there a need for whatever that is? Do a little bit of keyword research, try some stuff out. Some of it worked, some of it didn't. then do more of what works, like rinse and repeat. And that's basically what it is. So I'm picturing like a trivial game, like Trivial Pursuit, where I've got a bunch of these cards, I got these, you know, question cards that people are cutting out at home. It's just like a big list. Tell me just like a little bit of the structure of what the product looks like.

53:06Exactly. So you can't use Trivial Pursuit because that's a trademark, but you can take games like that or something else and call them something else and make sure you don't use the trade colors of them or anything like that. But yes, that's exactly the idea. And what happens is when you make some products, Etsy recommends other products that are like this and you kind of can't help but notice other games. So as I start creating more games, I see more games that are available. And then I try those. And then some work, some don't. And then whichever ones of those work, I make more of those. And then I get more suggestions.

53:47And then it gets my brain going because I am not naturally a creative person. Like not at all. I don't know. Give yourself some credit. You've been creating content on the internet for 14 years here. Well, you get better at it. So the point is you don't need to be creative. My mom would always say, you're so creative. I'd say, no, I'm not. Really, honestly, I'm good at creative problem solving, but I'm not a creative person. But it doesn't matter because you can just learn it because as you do it, you become more creative. You know, just like I did not know anything about flooring, but you learn it.

54:21And then I became good at home decor. So you just, as your interest level increases, your curiosity does too. And then so does your knowledge. They all work together. and then ideas, they just come to you. It's like, I don't even try anymore. I can, I mean, you've seen one of my things where I wrote like, I have 1 ,014 ideas of things I can create on Etsy. I hope that little sample sparks some inspiration to start thinking about what kind of digital products you could create or even a little bit broader, what kind of side hustle might be in your wheelhouse. Episode 637 with Debbie, the flooring girl, Gartner.

55:01All right, let's bring it home with number 10. To round out this list, I want to highlight Skylar Sullivan's remote cleaning business. And let this be an example of or a lens into any number of drop servicing style businesses where you're essentially playing a matchmaker between qualified service providers and people who need that work done. You've got a little more skin in the game than with Meow's website rental model, but I would say they're cousins. Business models are related. In Skylar's case, it was super impressive building Nebraska Elite Cleaning to$60 ,000 a month as a side hustle in episode 645, just aired a couple weeks ago.

55:38The premise here is to build a strong online brand and presence, nail the operations and logistics, and then find people who are excited to do the delivery for you. In fact, that's where Skylar recommended starting. After all, if you book a job and you don't have anyone to go out and do it, it's going to be you. And that's not the end of the world, but that wasn't his ultimate goal. I asked him how he sourced and onboarded new cleaners so then he could go out and market the business Yeah, well everybody's cleaned i've cleaned before, you know Don't love it, but everybody's clean and so cleaning to me is like you don't have to be a star or machine Yeah, we can all learn tips and tricks and be more efficient be better But if you're just detailed and diligent, anybody can do it if you're high character detailed and diligent You probably anybody can do it and then after that I mean there's tips and tricks for different chemicals, but so that's what I knew That's what I knew is that it doesn't take a master.

56:28I just need to find some people who are probably good. And maybe they've worked in a hotel or something like that. So I would use Indeed, Facebook a little bit, but Craigslist, Indeed. Indeed was really, really helpful at first. And then after I found a couple, we would use referrals from cleaners who knew other cleaners who had worked out. So what's that pitch like though? The pitch is like, hey, I just created an elite cleaning company. A company that I'm looking for pros. We are pros. We have a professional mantra. And I'm looking for pros like you based on your resume and who you are. You know, does this sound like something you'd be interested in, you know, making some more money and taking more jobs?

57:01And most of the time it's yes. Not always, but most of the time. Okay. So it's like the pitch is we'll, you know, we're building this elite culture. We'd love for you to be a part of it if that's a fit and we'll help you fill up your schedule. We'll help you get more hours. Absolutely. Yep, exactly. We'll help you fill up your schedule. All you have to worry about is doing the cleaning. We'll do the, you know, the scheduling. We'll do the notes. All you have to do is just show up, do the cleaning. You don't have to worry about reschedules and collecting payments. We'll take care of all that for you.

57:30Got it. And so it appeals to the people who want an easy button way. I mean, of course, it's still manual labor, but they don't have to be the entrepreneur. They don't have to be the marketer. They don't have to be the administrator. They can just show up and do the work. I think a lot of people are looking for something like that. Yeah, exactly. Advertising. They don't have to worry about sales. negotiation with customers, customer cancellations, getting payments, you know, and the communication with customers, it can be literally 24 seven, like we'll get calls, texts from people and all day, all night.

57:59And so if you're not an entrepreneur, don't have that mindset, you can get walked over by customers as well, or taken advantage of. What's typical in terms of an hourly rate or a payment per clean? Or how do you have things structured with the cleaners? We like to be around that$25,$25 an hour ish, because they're also supplying equipment of their own equipment as well, their own cleaning supplies and driving there. So$25 and then they get tips as well. And it can be a little bit higher around that. Skylar went on to explain that he typically would aim for a 40 to 50 % margin on the residential jobs he'd book, lower on commercial cleaning work because it's more competitive and more frequent, like lower margin but higher volume, if that makes sense.

58:39And I highlight Skylar's business because it's another one like Christie's where you could replicate it in any number of different niches. The key is looking for an industry that's pretty fragmented, like cleaning, where there really aren't any single companies that you could probably think of that command a big chunk of market share. On top of that, like we might have talked about in that episode, it's an industry where the pie keeps getting bigger. It's a chore that more and more people are choosing to hire out. So you don't necessarily need to conquest business from another provider. Again, episode 645, remote cleaning business.

59:10That's number 10 on our list. To recap, number one was the$100 a day challenge with Jackie Mitchell. Number two was the website rental business, the rank and rent model. Number three was vending machines. I think we could all use a money-making robot in our life. Number four was the billboard business. You'll never look at billboards the same way again. Number five was photo organizing. Number six was software consulting, highlighting the piggyback principle. Go where there's already some level of demand and establish some credibility and expertise there. Number seven was window washing, one of our college side hustle examples.

59:44Number eight was the super, super interesting junk land flipping business, looking for those unloved parcels and making them buildable. Number nine was digital products on Etsy, an example of creating something once, selling it over and over again. And number 10 was Skylar's remote cleaning business. If you want to learn more about any of these individual businesses, make sure to check out those specific episodes. Again, I will link those up in the show notes. And for the sake of convenience, I put them all into a Spotify playlist for you, which is also linked up in the show notes, sidehustlenation.com slash best of 24, or just hit the link in the episode description and it'll get you right over there.

1:00:23Big thanks to all our incredible guests for sharing their insight. Thanks to our sponsors for helping make this content free for everyone. That is it for me. Thank you so much for tuning in. Until next time, let's go out there and make something happen. And I'll catch you in the next edition of the Side Hustle Show. Hustle on.

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