667: 10+ Side Hustle Trends for 2025

27:46And then like, here's the next raw transcription. Like, could you provide some suggestions on what to trim from this episode to tighten it up a little bit and just to see what kind of results, maybe that would speed up my review process a little bit. Yeah. Now there's like so many applications of different things that you can do across your entire business. It's a, it's an exciting time, right? But things are changing so fast. But the good news is that such a small percentage of people out there, even though everybody listening may have heard that, hey, I can actually get AI to do some coding for me, very, very few people actually take that step to actually build something still.

28:27So the opportunity is there. You just still need to be willing to jump in, take a risk, you know, build out your idea and do it. So it's potentially becoming cheaper to build a software business. And there's still opportunity there. I do think for the next few years, there's still only going to be a tiny sliver of people that actually take that step and do this. Yeah, this is an interesting one from a software entrepreneur like yourself. Like, oh, if we go back 15 years ago, you know, does Longtail Pro just take a fraction of the development time and effort and cost to build something today? Probably so.

29:06Yeah, yeah, exactly. If I were to start from scratch, you know, I'd probably still have to work with a developer, but I bet I could get it 50 % of the way there. You know what I mean? Yeah. Yeah, it would definitely be way cheaper to build something now. I like this idea of building something for your own use and then maybe with a few tweaks, it's almost like white labeling to a different audience. Like if somebody else, another podcaster wanted to utilize the same editing assistant, maybe they could do that. And then maybe someday Descript wants to buy that from me and I've got a nice little chunk of change for my exit.

29:43Yeah, exactly. And so here's another side hustle trend that I'm seeing that's very related, right? So I think we piggyback on this is creating free tools or free websites that perhaps are, you know, generated with AI or not, right? Either way, but I've been covering on my YouTube channel, I cover a lot of free games or free tools, you know, free calculators, a lot of these things, like for example, a couple of them are really simple tools like a YouTube thumbnail downloader. All you do is you pop in the YouTube URL and it pulls the thumbnail for you, right? Another tool I covered is you upload an image of yourself and AI detects the shape of your face.

30:32You know, do you have a round face or an oblong face or an olive face? Like I didn't even know this thing existed, right? But for example, the face shape, it's called, oh, what's the website? Anyways, I can't remember the exact website that it's called, but it gets something like two and a half million visitors every month. Wow. That are coming. People just, they want to know the shape of their face. It's a little like face, face shape quiz thing. Yeah. It's like face shape AI. You upload an image of yourself. It says, oh, you've got an oblong face, you know, congrats. They're just monetized with ads, right?

31:09But there's lots of calculators. Like there's a sleep calculator. A fun one is snow day to calculator.com. Uh, you put in your zip code and it predicts if you're going to have a snow day tomorrow. Like, what are the odds this school is going to be canceled tomorrow, right? And that gets like 3 million visitors a month during the winter months, right? So there's a lot of these little either free tools or there's lots of games. There's tons of examples of games out there. You could just think of some silly word game or shape game or whatever it is. You make it free, monetized with ads. The thing can be built with AI or simple coding right um so so a lot of these free websites free tools a lot of these things i'm still seeing do do really really well do you know the secrets behind the what's driving the traffic for like the face shape predictor or the snow day predictor or anything like that well the like the face shape one does really well in google it is getting a lot of organic uh traffic and this is something that people are searching for?

32:15Like here, if I search, what's the shape of my face? I want to get the, oh, detectfaceshape.com is the website. Okay. Right? Yes, people are searching for this. I was blown away. Like the keywords, like it's hundreds of thousands of searches every month for a bunch of these. So that is a Google Play. The Snow Day Calculator one gets a lot of repeat visitors. Once people find it, they just know, hey, this is, I don't know why so many people look at this, but people that want to get out of school, they're, hey. A hundred percent sounds like something my kids would check every morning. Exactly. There's clouds today.

32:53Maybe I can get out of school tomorrow. Exactly what they're doing. Yeah. And you're like, well, it's 54 degrees, so don't get your hopes up. That's right. It's fun stuff. No, this is cool. This has always kind of been on the back burner. What is kind of the niche tool or a little calculator? And maybe with the help of AI, maybe it's a little simple game, one that we talked about Um, after a recent trip, we went to Hawaii with the family and we're snorkeling along and, you know, my six-year-old will tell you the story of like, you know, the giant turtle attack is like, of course the turtle is paying him no mind at all, but like the water was kind of cloudy and it shows up like two feet in front of our face.

33:30Oh yeah. Scary. So he's like freaking out and I'm like, dude, did he see a shark or something? You know, it's a, maybe we can make, um, like a crossy road style game, but it's like turtles and sharks and jellyfish, like something where you have to like go across the ocean this way. I like it. You know, maybe there's something, a little browser-based game that you could do based on that. And who knows? Maybe people find it. Yeah, absolutely. I honestly think there are thousands of ideas that sometimes the sillier the better, right? Because they might have a chance to go viral. Either create a really great game, right?

34:03Or if it's something silly that's fun that people might talk about, you know, it's got the opportunity to be shared a lot and can do well. So lots of opportunity there. Yeah, I saw a Twitter post about this, and I'll see if I can dig it up for the show notes, but it was a bunch of software or little tool ideas. And sometimes it's something simple like how to improve images in Word. Or maybe you can kind of piggyback a question-based query with Word, Excel, some software tool, and maybe there's some layer on that you could add to that for a workplace. advice. Maybe if people are swiping the company credit card, they think less about it than pulling out their own money.

34:47So maybe there's something there. Yeah. And to piggyback on that a little bit, we talked about, hey, Google is changing, organic traffic is searching for a lot of content creators. The one area that I am seeing organic traffic still do really, really well are these tools, these games, right? Because when somebody is searching for that particular problem, you know, what is the shape of my face or whatever the query is, you know, they actually do need to go to that tool or that website to get that information. So that is the one area that if you want to try and get that organic search, you need to be thinking more about tools, actual products or games, you know, something people can go to and actually use and interact with on your website.

35:35Okay, very cool. The next one that I have on my list is what I'm calling the death of the online course and the rise of the higher touch, higher engagement offer. And I don't know if this is a factor of AI or a factor of just like online course fatigue, where it's like that lower ticket maybe the hundred to five hundred dollar online course is make a really a really difficult place to play in right now in my opinion and what we're seeing is a shift towards the you know thousand two thousand you know maybe two to ten thousand dollars um yeah as much as thirty thousand dollars for like some really high touch you have a dedicated coach who's going to hold your hand.

36:20Maybe there's some, uh, you know, on-site local, you know, retreats or workshops that are included in this, but it's, um, it can kind of a transition away from a purely on-demand pre-recorded video-based course to a more, uh, high engagement. Maybe there's a community element to this. Maybe there's live, uh, live coaching elements. And so if you're thinking about structuring an offer, that's just something to keep in mind for, um, you know, going forward. Yeah, and I think part of that is that there's so much information for free on YouTube through video content. I think that's part of it, right?

36:58Is that, hey, maybe I used to buy a video course for$200 or$500, but now I can get 90 % of the way there just with free content on YouTube. So people are like, yeah, if it's just video, maybe I'm not going to do it. But I do believe that you're exactly right. more and more people are craving in-person type meetups or community-based, you know, where you can interact either in smaller groups, you know, maybe you have a mastermind that's part of this community that you can meet up with on a regular basis, or you get that more high touch, like you said, that's what I'm seeing. And same with me, you know, I'm part of an online community that I paid for for a few years, but I don't pay for the education part of it.

37:51It's really just the community part of it. That I'm there because I like the people that are in the community. And when I have a problem, I have a group of people I know and I trust. I know they're experienced. I can bring up an issue and I know I'll get an answer. Yeah, it's community-based. We've seen people shifting from like a on-demand, evergreen model to more of a cohort-based if you're going to do the course thing. That's right. It's like, we're all going to go through this together. It has a defined start date and a defined end date. And, you know, everybody, there's no working ahead. Like we're going to do this together.

38:25Like that safety in numbers or strength in community, I think can work really well. And it makes it probably easier to sell than just something else. It's always available. You can buy it tomorrow. You can buy it the next week. Doesn't really matter. It's like, you got to get in because we're starting on Tuesday. Yep, exactly right. Yeah. I think those types of models work well. Seems to be the trend. That's what I'm seeing. More side hustle trends with Spencer in just a moment, including a seldom talked about publishing channel, Spencer's latest side hustle, and the businesses that AI isn't touching anytime soon, right after this.

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41:48Like it was insane. The amount of money flowing through meta from one mastermind group or coaching group I was a part of last year. It's like everybody in the room was spending thousands, tens of thousands of dollars a month with Mr. Zuckerberg. And I was like, dude, what an amazing business that they built. Yeah. Yep. Exactly right. But I mean, that's the, that's sort of the golden opportunity that's always been there is that if you know that it costs you a dollar to acquire a customer and you can make$2 for every customer that you get in the door, you're going to just spend as much money as you possibly can.

42:24Right. And I've personally never landed on that perfect business where I can just spend tens of thousands of dollars every month. And I know I'm going to make tens of thousands of dollars in profit because I'm buying that traffic. But some people have, some people have, you know, one of those examples that has been very public about it is Matt Paulson. He owns marketbeat.com, where it's a financial newsletter business where he spends essentially as much money as he possibly can to get people on his email list. And he now has, I think it's, it was either five or six million subscribers that he just passed.

42:59Wow. On his email list. So it's a huge business at this point. And he's calculated out, okay, I know I'm gonna make this much in the first week, you know, because we send this many emails and this many convert. We know we're going to make this much after the first month or lifetime value of the customer. And so he just keeps pouring gas on the fire there. Well, yeah, so you can get that flywheel spin and spend as much as you can. Yep, exactly right. And so this might be part B of this side hustle trend. The trend that maybe has been around for a little while is newsletters, newsletters as a business, right?

43:35I think is what I'll put that category in is a lot of people are sort of foregoing the traditional website. And they're truly just focusing on, we just get people on the email list. And then we have sponsors that pay to be listed in our email newsletter, right? A little ad spot. And so you get 50 ,000 or 100 ,000 people on your email list. And you know, you're going to make$1 ,000 every time you send an email newsletter out to your list. You do that two times a week, right? All of a sudden, you're making$8 ,000,$10 ,000 a month. And so this has been a trend, definitely a side hustle trend that I've seen is monetized email newsletters.

44:13And that is the platform. Like that's it. Yeah. It's, it's interesting. Well, I'm gonna create all this content with the goal of getting people on my newsletter. What if the newsletter is the content and that's working really well for some people and maybe an even clearer path towards that lifetime value of a subscriber metric that you're trying to figure out and like, okay, now I can go out and buy subscribers. Essentially you've talked with, Ryan Snetten on like the Naptown Scoop, like local newsletter for Annapolis. It's like, well, you know, based on this ad load and this frequency, it's like exactly what you described.

44:47Like, oh, yeah, I can totally go out and buy subscribers. But like for a local newsletter, it's like, well, the population's 80 ,000. Like I'm going to cap out at some point where it's like, you know, the market share is only so big, but for something that is a little bit broader, then you really can go huge with it. Yep. Or you go to more locations, right? It's true. Franchise it out. Yeah. We do five cities now, you know, or whatever. So, but yeah, yeah. Super interesting, you know, email newsletters as a business. Yeah. And we've got a few newsletter based episodes that went with Ryan on the local side.

45:19We've done, uh, Cody Sanchez been on the show like early on in her journey, this journey to her first like 50 ,000 subscribers. So definitely a viable model there. If you know, if the websites are going to be a little more difficult, there's other ways to monetize that content, other ways to create and share that content. The next one on my list is what I'm calling everything as a service. You know, you can't just pay for something now, you got to pay for it every month. And I don't know if this is, you know, the product of Netflix or product of, you know, everything is just, you know, it's a tiny amount.

45:55It's just, you know, a little bit and it becomes from the consumer side, like, oh, well, this is, hey, sure, I can afford that. But at a certain point, it's like the death by a thousand paper cuts. It's like, oh, it's just one more. There's one more little SaaS tool to add on. But from the entrepreneur's standpoint, it's almost baked into your pricing model, this assumption that it's going to be a recurring monthly thing. And so you can lean into that and get people used to paying for your thing over and over again. Yeah. And I was just looking at a perfect example of this, a hosting company, you know, where usually, you know, in the past, you might get a domain along with your, you know, hosting package.

46:32But now a lot of hosting companies, you get a full website builder, you know, that's a visual builder, you get the hosting, you get the domain. Now some are offering AI tools, you get an AI image generator, you get an AI, you know, writer, you get, you know, an AI blogging tool, you get, you know, it's like everything to like run your online business now. And it's just one friendly, you know, monthly fee, right? but but yeah i'm seeing that more and more as you know these these companies that are building in lots of tools it's like well i'll just you know spend 10 bucks a month to do all that then i guess yeah yeah makes sense if you're you're providing a consistent service if there's a community element to what you're doing like hey you know it's 50 bucks a month it's 100 bucks a month stay a member of this community we've seen people doing paid newsletters sure the free newsletter tier offers this, this, and this.

47:28But the paid tier offers a way you're just seeing the tip of the iceberg. So here's more in-depth curated content, whatever is behind the paywall. We talked about it in the context of little micro SaaS projects, software tools, lots of different ways to go about it. But thinking of that recurring revenue first versus a one-off purchase, and this relates to the online course thing too. It's like, hey, I'm going to collect$200 one-time upfront payment. you got lifetime access to the thing. We've seen a little bit of a shift and maybe it's the entrepreneurs getting a little more savvy. Well, that's great for my launch, but then what happens 12 months later?

48:06It's like, I keep having to serve these people over and over again without collecting any additional revenue. So we've seen people shift that pricing model to more community-based or add a recurring element to it. Yep. I think that's smart business. Anytime you can add recurring revenue, I think that's smart business. Cool. You got another one? Yeah, I do. I've got a couple more. This is, I don't know if you call this a side hustle trend, other than I've seen this opportunity and I haven't seen it talked about a lot. I don't know if it's been covered on the side hustle show. Maybe it has been.

48:37So forgive me if this has been mentioned, but people are publishing content on MSN. So I don't know if you've seen small publishers, you know, msn.com, truly msn.com. A lot of older people tend to still have that as their homepage. It gets millions and millions of views every month, but you can be a publisher to contribute content to MSN. And I just had a buddy just this last month. He's had a few things go really viral and he made just over$20 ,000 just from publishing on MSN. And so it's one of these really unique opportunities. You can apply to get your website approved. So if your organic traffic is going down from Google, well, you can publish content on msn.com.

49:29They're still getting a ton of direct traffic, right? And the population of viewers on MSN is probably skews a little bit older. And so if you have content that does really well in that demographic, you can get millions of views, right? So I've heard of lots of people doing this, but I happen to have a buddy that's been giving me updates over this last month. He's doing really, really well. Yeah, we're a part of the MSN publishing program, Microsoft Start program, it was maybe called early on, it may have changed. We've never had anything go that viral, but I think our best month is maybe 150, 200 bucks a month.

50:09So it's not 20 ,000, but it's another place to syndicate the content that you're already creating for pretty low lift. One of the strategies that was shared with me, it's like, if you can somehow like sync your RSS feed and I don't know, I've got like a lot of short code and stuff in my posts where it's like, I don't know if that would look right. Or I don't know, maybe they would strip that out. But if you can syndicate your RSS and like, if you're creating listicles, like the top 12 ways to make money online in 2025, like it will create like a gallery and so people have to page through obnoxious from the user standpoint but msn's racking up more page views racking up more ad views right and so that's going to improve your take your your rev share from that content versus having a a scrollable uh list post yep and i think um a lot of people are now publishing content uh directly just on msn it's not even on their website right and so you can create these like image carousels or video i I can't remember what they're called.

51:08There's a particular thing that you can get that it's really just on MSN. You just have to scroll through these, yeah, 10 images. So anyways, kind of an interesting opportunity that's been around for a long time, but I've seen several people doing really well recently with it still. Yeah, it's one of the income streams for Science Asyl Nation, but maybe there's a way, like everything, there's a way to triple down on the thing and really, really go for it. You just got to pick the one, yeah, that you're going to go all in on, right? it's hard to do them all yeah publish you know 10 times a day or whatever it's going to take i remember talking with john dykstra a few months ago it's like i'm really double down on email like when you say double down what do you mean he's like i send three emails a day it's like jesus like oh okay and we're over here doing one or two a week yeah yeah exactly and next on my list is a service-based side hustle observation and that is the increase in acceptance for fractional support or maybe a buzzword around fractional support fractional cto fractional cfo stuff like this where if you have expertise in a particular field that calling yourself the fractional person i think elevates you above hey i'm your freelance accountant or i'm your freelance bookkeeper no i'm I'm going to be your fractional CFO.

52:29And I think it allows you to command higher rates, higher prices. And plus people are maybe becoming more willing to hire that type of person or agree to a contractor relationship with that type of person lends itself really well to niche agencies, niche productized service providers. Yeah, absolutely. I mean, we see this all the time, you know, from a user perspective, if I go to Upwork and I'm looking to hire somebody, and I get people that apply that are sort of generalists, right? They say, oh, I can do this, I can do this, I can do this, you know, I can do it all versus somebody that says, I create financial spreadsheets in Google Sheets and that is what I do, right?

53:08You're going to hire that guy if you're looking for a financial spreadsheet and you're going to pay way more. Yeah, I'm going to be willing to, right? I'm like,$30 an hour versus the$10 an hour guy, But I'm going to do it because that's what you do. So if you can be a specialist, you know, in your field and sort of market yourself as either the fractional or, you know, I am the go-to email newsletter optimization person or whatever it is, you're going to command that higher price. Yeah, exactly. I'm the go-to person for viral Facebook partner program content in your niche. Exactly. And that person does exist.

53:46I know who that is. and they have a thriving business. Very good. Very good. The next one on my list is what I'm calling influencer marketing partners or influencer co-founders, where they're almost like you might have a technical co-founder. Now it's almost, you might have a, an influencer co-founder or influencer partner. And at the very top of the food chain, you have Mr. Beast and Feastables and stuff, but like even lower down, we've had examples of e-commerce sellers on the podcast, you kind of tapping into this really, really broad segment of what they called micro influencers, people with like 500, 1000 up to maybe 10, 20 ,000 followers, like not super viral accounts, but they've got people paying attention to them.

54:31They have been in the content creation game, they know how to make something compelling, and sending them samples of the product and really leaning into that as a marketing channel, versus trying to go out and, you know, find traffic and buyers the other way or other through other channels. I mean, it's smart, right? Because a lot of times if you have a product, you've got a good idea, you have zero followers. If you can kind of skip that whole step of building things up over the years and partner with somebody that already has that influence, already has that following, it's like almost a guaranteed way to launch to success.

55:06Now, you just have to be willing to either give up a piece of your business or give up, you know, revenue of the business and you don't figure out a model that works well for you. But I think it's a smart business for influencers that, Hey, there, there are a lot of people that have tons of followers, but they don't have any good business ideas. Like they just, you know, they have influence. Uh, and then there's other people that have really good ideas. They just, they don't have any influence. So if you can partner that up, it's a, it's a cool model. Yeah. We've seen it from the standpoint of it.

55:37we'll give you affiliate commission for everyone that you sell like through amazon creator connections or whatever um or we'll just send you free product or we'll pay you a flat fee to create this type of video but lots of different ways to structure it but kind of the the secret sauce seemed to be either casting that really wide net okay i'm going to send out you know a thousand messages to these different accounts or finding like that one really influential partner to bring in who you know can drive consistent traffic and it was on my first million where sean was pitching this like virtual assistant company for a while and it was like he bought a stake in that and then turned around and used his influence from the podcast to like drive customers to that business yeah really really really smart all right what's next all right this might be my last one uh that i have here and i don't know if i'm seeing it as a trend but it's something that I'm going to try a little bit.

56:35And I could see this developing into a trend. You tell me, you know, whether it is or not, but actually going the other way, more people are going more online, more AI, more technology, going the other way, going back to physical products, items you can touch, you know, feel. So one thing that I am actually going to be trying is reselling items on eBay. This has been around for how many decades now? Yeah, everything that's old is new again. Everything that's old is new again. So part of the reason I'm doing this, I do have older kids that are looking for summer jobs. And so I'm like, what's something that teenagers can run?

57:18And so we just went out this weekend. We bought Amazon return pallets. I actually picked them up at a liquidation warehouse. Is it the Where You Been store? somebody i was like that's a fantastic name for this bin sale place but because i know it's in eastern washington somewhere oh okay no there there actually is in the tri-cities it's not a bin store but it's it's actually this guy has a bunch of contracts where he i mean he had like 300 pallets of just amazon returns walmart return you know big box store returns we bought three of them we're gonna unpack it try and resell it on ebay so it's it's not a new business but But I feel like going back to the basics of like, there's going to be stuff that people are going to want to buy for cheaper than they can get in the store forever.

58:07That's never going away. So the trend of going to a business that isn't going to be as impacted by all the technological changes, I think is a smart trend. Yeah, exactly. The local plumbing service is not worried about AI. You know, he's not going to come. Computers aren't going to come and fix your pipes. Yep, exactly. If nothing else, you'll get some content about the pallet flipping, pallet return business. That's exactly right, right? So I'm hoping I get a summer job for my kids, maybe get some good content for me. I expect to make approximately$0 on this business. I'm hoping that my kids earn some money.

58:45But who knows? Maybe it becomes profitable. We'll see. I mean, that would be ideal. But if I can break even on it, I'm happy. No, that's a good way to expose them to this buy low, sell high. And is it worth the work of picking through all these things, listing individual items? Like there's a lot that goes into it and it sounds like a kind of luck of the draw and what's, you know, you don't get to see everything that's in that palette before you get it. but we do have an episode on pallet return item pallet flipping. It's just because it's something that comes up on people's side hustle lists.

59:16I'm curious about it. Yeah. And somebody was making it work. But similar, they made a couple, maybe 25 grand over the course of a year or two in doing it. But it sounded like if they didn't have the YouTube video of themselves filming, doing it, it's like, I don't know if it would be really worthwhile. But that's a cool one. I do want to piggyback on your, well, what are the things that AI isn't going to impact or take away? And part of that is this shift towards, maybe a shift in interest towards local services, the window washing businesses, the house cleaning businesses, the power washing companies, the, you know, mobile car detailing, like these blue collar type of side hustles where you could start relatively low cost, relatively low risk, and don't even need, like if you have any level of digital marketing savvy, you're probably going to be head and shoulders above the entrenched competition.

1:00:13I think that's definitely a trend worth mentioning because we've seen more and more young people, especially young people being interested in those types of businesses like low tech, good old fashioned elbow grease, go do the work and get paid for it. Yeah. I think a lot of us that have been in the online world for so long, like we, We see all these shifts and these changes and it's frustrating. We're like, oh, how are we going to make this online business work? Well, there's this whole other world out there, right, where you can go knock on a door and you can meet people in person and have a real phone number where people call you.

1:00:51Like there's so many opportunities for side hustles, whether it's local or, you know, in person or just, you know, the not online business that, hey, there's a lot of things that people need and will always need that won't be impacted by these huge technological shifts. Yeah, very true. Spencer, this has been awesome. I don't know how many we were up to. I think definitely more than 10 at this point. So probably a good place. Good place to wrap up. We delivered on our promise and hopefully a little bit extra on top of that. But what's next for you? Any projects going on? What's the latest with Niche Pursuits?

1:01:27Yeah, I mentioned the one. Hey, I'm kind of starting a little side business with my kids. So that's going to be fun. That's kind of something I'm dabbling with, the whole palette flipping idea. But going all in on YouTube videos, my YouTube channel's done pretty decent. so where I talk a lot about different website ideas that might still be working, the type of trends that are still working online, so covering a lot of that on my YouTube videos. Other than that, no big shakeups with what I'm going to be doing. I just keep publishing some content on YouTube, got my Facebook page going. I have a little Amazon influencer side hustle.

1:02:09I've got videos there, So, you know, kind of keep dabbling on a few little side hustles, keep the niche pursuits brand going, and we'll see where it goes from there. I get the impression that, you know, that may be similar. You probably don't need to work anymore. You've been doing this for a long time. You've had some exits under your belt. Like you've had some fantastic earning years and months. Is there a retirement plan or do you just keep doing this because you love doing it? Yeah, you know, I'm still enjoying things, but I am very much, I've removed a lot of things for my business that I don't enjoy.

1:02:42So I do have the opportunity and the ability, like, you know, my Facebook page VA, I'm not going to go in and post things 10 or 15 times a day, right? So I do enjoy the strategy of coming up with ideas and trying to plug in a system or people that can run it for me. So I enjoy that. So I'll keep doing that. You know, I'm actually, I volunteer at a local pickleball organization. We have a pickleball community, right? So I'm looking for more volunteer opportunities, maybe work a little bit less, but still, hey, I like the excitement of, hey, there's this cool new idea. Can we make it work? So I haven't quite retired yet, Nick, but I'll let you know.

1:03:23But I'm doing all I can not to work quite as much. Let's put it that way. Fair enough. You know, the love of the game, parse out the stuff that you don't like and keep what you do. Yeah. That's, you know, try and play in that same space. So very cool. uh, niche pursuits.com. Check them out over there. Check out the niche pursuits podcast. We'll link up the YouTube channel as well. Like I said, going all in on YouTube, more and more guests are saying, Hey, I'm leaning in on the YouTube stuff, doing more video. If the website isn't working as well, I can make, uh, I can make videos and it's a lot of fun too.

1:03:54Thanks so much for joining me. I think this was, this was a blast. If you're listening to this and you want to make some extra money and you're not sure which path to take, I want to invite you to take our free quiz at hustle.show. You can do it right from your phone. It'll take a couple minutes or less. And then based on your answers, we're going to give you a custom curated playlist to hopefully put you in the right direction. These are going to be eight to 10 side hustle show episodes based on your answers. Hey, what should we listen to next? And if you want more Spencer in your life, you can go listen to his three or four side hustle show appearances as well.

1:04:29But hustle.show, that's your personalized playlist quiz. And just again, a few short questions about your interests and goals. And you can get that personalized playlist added to your device, learn what works, and then go out and make some more money. Big thanks to Spencer for sharing his insight. Thanks to our sponsors for helping make this content free for everyone. As always, you can hit up side hustle nation.com slash deals for all the latest offers from our sponsors in one place. That is it for me. Thank you so much for tuning in. Until next time, let's go out there and make something happen.

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