Live from Wimbledon Day 14 - Sinner seizes second title

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1:56Matt Roberts: hello and welcome to the tennis podcast live from Wimbledon and presented by Barclays the official banking partner of Wimbledon this is our 17th and final day broadcasting live here from the Wimbledon roof pretty much our favorite place in the sporting world it'll be very sad for us to say goodbye to this spot for another 50 weeks but boy are we going to make the most of the next hour talking about Yannick Sinner and his 6-7, 7-6, 6-3, 6-4 victory over Alexander Zverev in three hours and 46 minutes. Did you enjoy that David?

2:36David Law: I really did. I really did. But I've heard a few people say, if this was what the 90s were like, I don't like it after the first two sets.

2:47Matt Roberts: David's here to defend the 90s.

2:49David Law: Yes, I am. I mean, there were what? I think there were two break points in the whole of the first two sets, something like that. And, you know, Zverev didn't break serve in the entire match, and yet he played a very good match and kept it incredibly close. but I found the whole thing quite riveting because that is the best I've ever seen him play that first two sets and Sinner played bloody well as well I think Sinner probably has other levels that he could have even played if he's at his absolute peak all the way through but you also have to say part of that is because the opponent is stopping him playing.

3:35David Law: And yeah, I just found it really fascinating watching Sinner being pushed into those sort of waters by somebody else in a big grand slam final. You know, I felt like his reaction at the end, the way he fell on his back and he put his hands on his face, you could tell how much that had taken from him to achieve. And yeah, I really enjoyed it. I really enjoyed the final. I thought it was a very good final. I think Sinner, I think Zverev came out and he played the way that everybody's been telling him to play for years. And the pennies dropped. He was good to his word. He has improved his game. He did all the things.

4:11David Law: He can have no regrets, I don't think, but he was beaten by a better player, a better champion in the end. And that's really all there is to it.

4:19Catherine Whitaker: How much, David, of your enjoyment came from the fact that you called this pretty perfectly? Splitting the first two sets, fair of winning a tie break, and then Sinner going from there.

4:31David Law: I did think those two first sets could both be tie breaks and then he would sprint away.

4:35Matt Roberts: Be honest with us now. Was there more jeopardy than you expected in this match?

4:41David Law: It felt like there was more jeopardy than I was expecting to feel. Like if you'd have shown me that scoreline, that's kind of what I expected it to be. But I didn't expect it to feel as on the edge as it did. Because I didn't really think Zverev would play that well. You know, not that well that long. and worry Sinner the way he worried him. You know, I think Sinner played pretty well in the first set and he didn't win it. And when do you find him in that position? It's not very often. So, yeah, funny that really, given that that's kind of the scoreline I expected, but it didn't feel quite like I thought it would feel.

5:21Catherine Whitaker: What do you think? I got back to the media centre after the first set. I've been in the press seats on centre court for the first set and I was like wow we may have like a game changer in men's tennis if Zverev's going to keep hitting his forehand like that yeah because that was a level I've don't think I've ever seen from him before potentially like he hit one or two down the stretch against Alcaraz in the fifth set in Australia which just took my breath away but this was back to the wall moments exactly there

5:55David Law: They were desperation.

5:56Catherine Whitaker: Yeah, and he was hanging on physically. This was a signal of intent on the forehand. I don't think he's ever played with or come out in a big match with because he wasn't always making them in the first set. He was pulling the trigger, and sometimes they were going long, but he was accepting that and not reverting to type in the first set, and he kept going for it. And his strike was bigger than Sinners in that first set. He was knocking him back. He was taking charge. and then they ended up in this tie break which was largely a serving contest. I think 13 of 16 first serves were made in that tie break and there was a lot of aces and Zverev came out on top with a huge forehand winner that he exploded into.

6:41Catherine Whitaker: And I was like rocked. I was shook coming back. I was thinking Sinner has got his hands full here because if Zverev's playing like that, he is going to be so hard to stop.

6:52Matt Roberts: Do you think Sinner was shocked? Because usually there's a very clear way to play against Zverev, isn't there? There's some way you want to avoid the backhand and there's some way you want to go and try and break down. And that's the forehand. And that felt like it was off the table for two sets today.

7:08Catherine Whitaker: I don't know. I mean, he stayed calm. He didn't look really shocked to me. And I think he, you know, we've been talking about the Zverev forehand, haven't we? And he has been hitting it like this through a lot of this tournament. It's just that doing it in this match on this stage was what was shocking to me. But Sinner, I suspect, was ready for it as a possibility because he would have seen how Zvere has been playing.

7:35Matt Roberts: And maybe thinking, OK, can you keep this up?

7:37Catherine Whitaker: Yeah, the old Djokovic trick. OK, you've done it for one set, but now do it for four more.

7:43Matt Roberts: Yeah. Yeah. I mean, it did drop off the forehand, didn't it? It was almost like when somebody's trying to rewrite their DNA, something that is so deeply imprinted, when you get tired and things get ragged, it's like the spell wears off, doesn't it? And the forehand did start to get a bit shonky and a bit defensive and started dropping short. I can understand why that happened, but there was a decline in it over the course of that third and fourth set.

8:14David Law: I think the thing is, I think it's probably impossible to keep it up for really long periods of time to hit that hard, that aggressively, that frequently. And my mind, I wrote down after the first set a memory of mine in the Roddy-Confedera rivalry. And two different ones came to mind. The first one that came to my mind was in 2007 at the US Open. They played each other in the quarterfinals. and already Roddick was 13-1 down in the head-to-head and the previous year he'd reached the final against Federer. They'd split the first two sets, then he'd lost in four. And he'd got Jimmy Connors in his corner and Connors had clearly sent him out like a prize fighter to try to knock his block off, you know, and to just go out there swinging from ball one.

9:13David Law: And every serve was 140 and every forehand was hit as hard as he possibly could. And he was awesome that night, Roddick. And he lost the first two sets on tie breaks. And then the third set, he'd gone. He lost the third one 6-2. And that's how well Federer played. And it had a similar sort of feel to me. Zverev just went out there and it was almost as though he wasn't just trying to win the title, he was trying to prove that he can back this style up. that he's promised he would bring.

9:47Matt Roberts: And do you think he did prove that despite the result?

9:49David Law: I do. And I think he proved it can hurt. I think he proved... I mean, he did a hell of a lot more against Sinner tonight than he's done, I think, ever before. Certainly to this version of Sinner.

10:00Matt Roberts: I mean, we won't know until he comes into press and, you know, who knows what to make of whatever he ends up saying in press. for you did the slip that Zverev had in the third set did that affect him I mean which it looked bad at the time and obviously it was quite dramatic Yannick Sinner coming coming down the other end of the court to check that he was okay and he was grimacing a lot he got up then very quickly and then the replays that I saw it wasn't like the Sinner one which looked way worse in slow motion than it did in real time this one actually looked okay to me in slow motion and he did get up and seemed fine but it was quite dramatic in the moment it definitely changed the match

10:46Catherine Whitaker: because of the point that it happened it was on his break point and yeah that's right it's the first time he got break point all match and this rally develops and sinner takes the backhand line and then has sort of all the options he could possibly want to hit and he plays the drop shot and it catches fair about and he slips and he and he saves the break point there sinner and holds so it definitely was a big moment in call in terms of the scoreline because you know if Zverev breaks there and I think that's why that's why to me there was sort of maybe more jeopardy in this match than I was expecting because even in even sort of deep in the third set as we were there if Zverev gets the break he's he's a couple of holds away from going two sets to one up so there was jeopardy in this match so I definitely think it made a big difference on the scoreline, I also think it did affect Zverev a little bit in the next game when he then got broken, having not converted his break point with that slip.

11:43Matt Roberts: And ironically broken with a point during which Yannick Sinner slipped.

11:47Catherine Whitaker: Yes, absolutely.

11:49Matt Roberts: Slipped mid-rally, got up, still won the point. And he did that a few times in the match. Unreal. You could probably create a little highlights reel of Yannick Sinner falling over and still winning points.

12:01Catherine Whitaker: and that was the crucial moment of the match because not only did Sinner save that break point and then break Zverev in that game we saw the first signs I thought of a reversion to type in terms of attitude because it was at the end of that game that he was quite lucky not to get a warning he swiped his racket away sort of into the grass towards the back of the court in pure frustration and he'd been 40-15 up in the game and he'd lost. There was a double fault in there. He lost his head, I thought, in that moment.

12:35Matt Roberts: I thought that was a straight warning in the rules, damaging the girls.

12:36David Law: I think he gets a sizable fine post-championships for that.

12:40Catherine Whitaker: Yeah, yeah. You know, so, and then Sinner had a comfortable hold and wins the set and suddenly he's gone from being in real peril, Sinner, break point down, to saving that, breaking him, holding, winning the set. as rare as attitudes turned and it just changed everything that moment so yeah I think if I had to pick a point I probably would say that that drop shot to save to save the break point and the slip that followed because I think it I think it rocked there for just even five or ten minutes.

13:11Matt Roberts: Can we talk about the second set tie break that Yannick Sinner played? I would say it was one millimeter away from the perfect tie break it had that lob gone in and in the moment I thought it had gone in and certainly the bloke the italian bloke behind me thought it had gone in not his most professional moment but i understand he made quite the noise um but had that gone in and it was the most improbable improbable shot it wasn't an error that it didn't but i think that might have been the perfect type he suddenly found all the returns that he had been looking for for two sets at exactly the time any most needed him.

13:49David Law: Yeah, that was a reminder of the kind of chasm between them, really, most of the time, or at least the last nine times they've played, that even when Zverev's sending down 135-plus mile an hour serves time after time, Sinner's just dealing with them and turning the pace back on him and putting him in horrible positions and just outplaying him. because bottom line is Sinner's top level is higher and he proved that in that tyre break. It's interesting. I'm sure that you do a fall like that, it shakes you up. Maybe he's injured. I don't know. Like properly injured, Zverev. But really the two sets that followed were the ones that I expected.

14:34David Law: I think he can only play at that level for a certain amount of time. And look, he'd have beaten virtually everybody in the world today. But you've also got to beat this guy.

14:45Matt Roberts: He's the new number two, new world number two. Zverev feels it, doesn't he? I mean, obviously with Alcaraz out. I mean, is this, you know, we've been talking about who's going to be the third guy? Who's going to be the third guy? Maybe he was there all along.

15:02David Law: Well, he certainly forced his way up now to have to be thought of really in a different way. I talked about him and Tsitsipas yesterday yesterday and the way they've just diverged as tennis players um but but i i'm also interested to see zverev at the us open because he spoke at the end of his match with felix ogiel isim last year as saying that he never had feel with the ball and the conditions there at all during that tournament and i know he's reached the final before and he nearly won it several years ago but i never feel like he's that comfortable there he hasn't looked it to me a lot of the time anyway so you know that's his next challenge isn't it

15:44Matt Roberts: would we think of the amount the deployment of variety from Yannick Sinner today there was quite

15:49Catherine Whitaker: a lot of drop shotting yes I thought particularly as the match went on he started using it a lot more and yeah effective I thought generally didn't always win the point but actually came up with a came up with a huge one in the first set tie break that he did win the point on to save set point and he didn't go on to win that tie break, but that was kind of the first one that he played where I thought, wow, okay, that's really worked there. But yeah, it's just a helpful string to his bow, isn't it? To break up the rhythm that Zverev was in, get Zverev moving forward, and yes, I liked it. And I liked generally Sinner's defence along the baseline.

16:34Catherine Whitaker: I mean, there were some moments particularly... It was Djokovician, wasn't it? There were some moments down the stretch where he was, you know, all of the skiing he's ever done felt like it was really paying off. He was sliding into those shots, nullifying what throw it can do. Looks like his legs are going to snap and they somehow don't. And he somehow hits these aggressive shots from those positions. It's extraordinary. And there was one of those in the game that he broke in in the final set to go up 4-3. Massive roar after this electric rally that Sinu actually ended up winning up at the net, having done some of that sliding defence at the baseline.

17:11Catherine Whitaker: And it was the kind of rally and the kind of noise that reminded me of last year's final, where I felt like they had a lot of points, Sinu and Alcaraz, where that movement was needed. It was needed less today because of Zverev's game style. There was this huge sense of threat constantly from Zverev, but there weren't as many out-of-your-seat points because Zverev's not Alcaraz. But that one there really was, and it was crucial. And that return game that Sinner played to go up 4-3 in the fourth set was unbelievable. He was so locked in, returns on the baseline. It was brilliant. And then the final game was full of variety and shot-making and excitement as well, as Zverev had one last push to try and throw everything at him and got to 15-30.

18:02Catherine Whitaker: But Sinner found the first serve and he found the big forehand. So it was the mixture. It was using the variety at times, but also falling back on the game that he's honed and developed over many more years. And the movement and the improved serve and the relentless ground strokes. He's got it all and he needed it all today because Zverev was really good. and if Sinner had been more off his game than this, he could well have been pushed into those deep waters of extending to five sets and the roof coming on and there was a world today where that could have happened and he would have found it a lot harder, I think, to get out of this match but he raised his game to a really high level, I thought.

18:55Matt Roberts: Yeah, it's kind of like big picture. he does want to win a match over 3 hours and 48 minutes, right? But he also doesn't want to be getting involved in matches over 3 hours and 48 minutes. It did tickle me that this one was 3 hours 46. He could have won Wimbledon and just slightly upped his apparent current threshold, which I know we don't believe in, but that stat is going to hang over him while it remains true. I mean, it was being quoted on Five Live a lot.

19:24David Law: Yes, it was, as was the kind of deadline for the roof. I did think the forehand didn't entirely convince me from Synergy in this match. It improved. In the start. I mean, see, this is where I feel like he could have won it more easily, is there were a couple of moments where I'm thinking he's got him right where he wants him, off balance with a shot to put away and then he made an error on the forehand. It happened several times. So I think there's still, it's hard to believe, isn't it? The guy's just won Wimbledon and there's still some tweaks to make.

20:06Matt Roberts: I mean, it is also hard to believe that we're saying Sinner didn't quite play his best, which I do think is true. Zverev played one of the matches of his life and Zverev didn't break Sinner today.

20:23Catherine Whitaker: still hasn't broken him all year right yeah no and that's that's why it's going to be a fascinating situation for zverev and his team coming out of this to to try and take positives from it because you know there is a world where you can you can spin what's happened here quite negatively for him because you've done as well as you can yeah and you still haven't won and you still haven't

20:48David Law: broken his serve you're a grand slam champion you've you've been released yeah from your nerves and it still hasn't happened and again i the other the other federer roddick one i had in my mind was 2004 where again roddick absolutely brought it to federer and federer didn't play very well and found himself luckily at one set all rain came and then he turned it around and served and volleyed a lot more and won the match in four sets but you know imagine how that would make you feel when you played your your best and the other guy's been off and that's kind of what

21:22Catherine Whitaker: happened a bit here and and i think there's also a comparison we were talking about this with charlie eckleshare with andy murray in early days lender when murray came out of that australian open in 2012 having played a brilliant match at that point maybe one of the best matches of his career but lost it against Novak Djokovic in the semi-finals but he'd done the things that everyone had been wanting him to do for years hitting the forehand in particular it was a similar thing to Zverev yeah but didn't end up getting the win but Murray was able to use that as a tremendous positive he was also well two things younger than Zverev and also I think better You know, I think Murray is a better tennis player than Zverev and was not as far away, perhaps, at that point in their careers as Zverev is right now from Sinu and Alcaraz.

22:20Catherine Whitaker: But that's the job that Zverev's got, to do what Murray did and take this defeat where he lost, but he played the right way and try and draw something from it and take it as a positive rather than be left dispirited that he feels like he's done the thing and it still hasn't worked. Very hard thing to do, though, I think.

22:42Matt Roberts: So the tournament that started with the bloody foot ends with a Wimbledon trophy. The Nike marketing department, well, they've probably got it all ready to go, haven't they? But surely the bloody foot is going to feature in some sort of campaign.

22:59David Law: Well, it definitely feels like there are some parallels to last year. in as much as he trailed that match two sets to one in the first round, and he's won the tournament. And last year he was two sets to love down against Grigor Dimitrov. Okay, in that one he got lucky. Poor old Grigor got injured sitting on the tournament, you know?

23:19Catherine Whitaker: And I always cite one of the great wins of Novak Djokovic's career to me was when he won here in 2015, having lost the French Open final to Stan Wawrinko, and he was going for his career slam. that bounce back, you know, like he kind of had that French Open and then Wawrinka just ripped it from him. And for him to then win the next slam, I thought, was this incredible feat. And Sinner has done that two years in a row now in terms of like heartbreak at the French Open, different to what Djokovic had, but arguably worse, more affecting in terms of having the match points last year and not winning.

23:59Catherine Whitaker: and then this year being a game away from victory and not managing to win against Sarundalo and his body letting him down. We know all about it. For him to have come back from both of those French Opens and won the next Grand Slam with the hardest turnaround in tennis in terms of the surface change and the small amount of time you had, it's a remarkable feat. Tells you a lot about him. Absolutely. I think it was a lovely speech

24:29Matt Roberts: from Sinner, his thanking the ball kids at the end and specifically referencing the heat. It was like, I know how hard it is to do your job in a heatwave. Well done for managing it. It was really nice. He also said he had clocked his mum having to leave a couple of times halfway through the match.

24:47Jannik Sinner: I think she does find it hard, doesn't she? They did well to be there, I think.

24:54Matt Roberts: They do find it tough. That was a big celebration from from Yannick Sinner. We've seen a few Grand Slam winning celebrations from him and that felt like kind of the most demonstrative to me.

25:07Catherine Whitaker: Yeah, I think he knew the significance of this. If he'd lost, he wouldn't have held a Grand Slam title, which would have been mad and very hard to get your head around. But, you know, no one of his quality wants to be going through a cycle of slams in the prime of their career and not winning at least one of them. I think if he looks back on the last year, he's probably still a little disappointed by his slam total considering the dominance he'd had on tour in that time. But for him to get this one was big. Especially without Alcaraz here. He's obviously shown he can win Wimbledon when Alcaraz is in the draw.

25:49Catherine Whitaker: But if he'd gone French Open and Wimbledon without Alcaraz and not cut into that lead that Alcaraz has on him in their little race. I mean, that would have been crazy. So this was an important one, I think, in the context of his career.

26:07Matt Roberts: There is so much Alcaraz-related chat in the chat. Like, the spectre of Alcaraz just looms over Yannick Sinner because they are a duo even when Alcaraz isn't here. And the Alcaraz situation does make it quite difficult to discuss, like, the future. And what now? Because so much depends on Alcaraz, right? Like the near future, maybe medium future picture of men's tennis feels so dependent right now on the progress of that wrist that has started hitting very soft forehands. But emphasis on very soft. Yes, absolutely.

26:49Catherine Whitaker: And I think there's two points to be made. Like one, when does Alcaraz come back? That's obviously the main sort of short term one. Is it the US Open or do we not see him at a slam until next year with the Australian Open? But also, how does he come back? You know, does he come back and just pick up where he left off? Has he had to make some technical changes to the way he hits, I suspect, his forehand, given it's the right wrist that's been affected? And is he even, I don't know, lacking confidence in it? Or is he a bit vulnerable, you know? Is he a bit scared of it? These are all possibilities.

27:32Catherine Whitaker: I don't know which way it's going to go. I think there's probably a wider assumption from the sort of more casual tennis fans, I suppose, that, oh, when Alcaraz is back, it's all going to be exactly the same as what it was before. And maybe that will be the case. I certainly hope that Alcaraz can pick up where he left off. But I think we have to consider a possibility that he's not full force straight away. And it takes him a bit of time, even when he's back on court, to actually hit the heights and hit the forehand in the way that he would want to. So maybe Sinner's got a longer window without true Alcaraz.

28:13Matt Roberts: Do you think he wants Alcaraz to come back quickly? Do you think he misses him? Or do you think he's too ruthless for that?

28:20Catherine Whitaker: I think he I don't know if it's as binary as that I think he probably I think he probably knows that he can he can take advantage and capitalise in this moment and that's good for him but I'm sure he does miss him as well and miss their rivalry

28:38David Law: I think he wants him to come back, I think he wants him to be alright I think he likes him and he doesn't like to see people injured and unhappy but at the same time what can he do about it in the meantime he's going to try and just win tennis matches. I think that's how he thinks.

28:53Matt Roberts: He's a nice lad, isn't he? Yeah, I do think he is.

28:57David Law: I think he's a really, really good guy, Yannick's in it. I think he's got a lovely way about him.

29:03Matt Roberts: What do we think Darren Cahill whispered in his ear? Oh, no, it was the other way around, wasn't it? Yannick whispered something in Darren Cahill's ear.

29:10Catherine Whitaker: Oh, really? I didn't see that. I was running up here.

29:12David Law: What do you think was being said? What did it look like to you as a vibe?

29:16Matt Roberts: I really don't know. they're quite mysterious aren't they

29:21Catherine Whitaker: maybe it was stay another year just keep extending the contract

29:27Matt Roberts: yeah it was supposed to end at the end of last year wasn't it he loves it Darren Cahill I think why would you leave that gig I mean obviously you're coaching the world number one it's going really well that's great but I also think he has a real connection with him and enjoys it

29:46David Law: genuinely yeah definitely definitely no i think i think that they they think an awful lot of each other um and look okay it's a lot though you know i mean cahill's he's getting on a bit you know i mean he's not an old man but it's a lot to to keep on the road and keep traveling you know i mean it's not a bad way to do it of course but you know he's he's taken time out before for for sort of burnout, you know, and I totally understand that. I mean, I've experienced it myself. But he just seemed to have a real kind of lease of life about him the last couple of times they've got to this sort of stage.

30:29David Law: You know, he just seemed to be buzzing.

30:32Matt Roberts: Anything else to say about Yannick Sinner, about this final, about what it all means?

30:41Catherine Whitaker: No, not really. I suppose I remember thinking last year that I had got so confident that Wimbledon was going to be Alcaraz's, because we talked a lot about how his game worked on this surface and the variety that he brings. But Sinner showed last year that he can absolutely handle the Alcaraz game on grass, and now he's got a second Wimbledon as well. They're tied for Wimbledon. I think that's just going to be an interesting battleground going forward. I think like who out of them can end up kind of coming out on top at Wimbledon over the years because they both sort of play on the grass in slightly different ways but they've shown how their game works and yeah it's just another fascinating part of their rivalry.

31:29Matt Roberts: There were two hours and 54 minutes in this match before there was a break of serve David. Is that what the 90s were like?

31:37David Law: Yeah this was actually a lot more exciting than a lot of those matches to be quite honest with you because there were still really good rallies in this even though the serve was was dominant in the end you know and getting the upper hand and the server was winning the games there were still some really good rallies in this I mean you're saying this was better than the 90s yeah I'm sorry it was and I've got obviously I look on it fondly because that's when I fell in love with tennis and as much as I couldn't stand on Dragacy at the time thank goodness for on Dragacy for coming along in 1992 and actually showing that there was another way to do it you know I mean And the truth is pretty much only he could do it.

32:14David Law: Courier came very close to copying him the next year, reached the final. But basically, the 90s used to be serve and volley, serve ace, serve return out of court. You know, you just did not have rallies like these two were having. And so, yeah, I can't complain. I can't complain.

32:35Matt Roberts: Better than the 90s, the highest compliment David Law can pay to a tennis match.

32:40David Law: I'm different now, so it wasn't as good as the 90s through my eyes. I love this, but that's when I fell in love.

32:46Matt Roberts: Okay, 94?

32:48Jannik Sinner: Was it 94, the absolute duds?

32:50David Law: It was a terrible final, but Pete Sampras won it and threw his racket into the crowd and beat my pal Goran Ivenicevic, which I didn't know he was going to be my pal at the time. So I was delighted that Goran lost, and I've told him that, and I was delighted for Pete Sampras, but, you know, it was a terrible, terrible final.

33:09Jannik Sinner: we covered it in our worst grandstand finals of all time I would never want to watch it back again

33:13David Law: I mean you know there were no rallies there were no rallies

33:17Jannik Sinner: I think we did watch we watched highlights didn't we for that show

33:20David Law: you're sitting there thinking people are just sort of going boom boom it's like nothing's happening

33:27Jannik Sinner: yeah today was good like there was a lot of serve domination but those first two sets were incredibly high level

33:35Catherine Whitaker: yeah they really were

33:37Jannik Sinner: The sound of the ball popping off the strings from both of them was take your breath away stuff.

33:44Catherine Whitaker: That was actually something that Agassi mentioned in commentary about how the sound of Sinner's shots changed in that second set tie break. Yeah, it did. It was like suddenly there's that cannon sound again and the real whack. Conviction. Yeah.

34:01David Law: The sound of conviction.

34:03Matt Roberts: Absolutely. Absolutely. Yannick Sinner, two-time Wimbledon champion.

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36:24Jannik Sinner: Some other results from today. the final day of Wimbledon 2026 to Kito Oda. Look, he was the favourite for this men's wheelchair singles final, but I'm not sure anyone saw this scoreline coming. 6-1, 6-1 over Alfie Hewitt today. Obviously, Hewitt got with Gordon Reid the win over Oda in the doubles yesterday.

36:44Matt Roberts: Oda partnering Gustav Fernandez. Oh, boy, did he turn that on its head today, Oda. It's his third Wimbledon singles trophy, his second in a row, and he will now be going for the Calendar Slam in New York.

36:58Jannik Sinner: He already has the career Golden Slam. He'll be going for the Calendar Slam in New York this year. He broke his trophy, the Tiquito Oda. He arrived in the press conference and the winners in the press conferences here, they always have the trophy on the desk and it looks beautiful. It's also, there's a reason they call it the media theatre here. It is very theatrical and well lit and there's, you know, charisma-filled Tiquito Oda with a wonky trophy in front of him. And he said, it looks like art now. It was a wonderful... That's a good rescue, isn't it? Yeah. I mean, I don't think there's anything he couldn't style out.

37:36David Law: No. I heard an interview on our Five Live coverage from Alfie Hewitt during the final coverage of the men's singles. And, oh God, that was a tough listen. You know, Alfie's a lovely fella. and he was asked, does it feel like taquito odour is getting better? And he goes, oh, God, yeah. Yeah, I mean, really. He says, I feel like I'm actually adding little bits to my game, but, I mean, he's so young and he's getting so good. Yeah, it must be terrifying. It's a tough scene.

38:10Catherine Whitaker: Yeah, I have a feeling we might be saying we'll be going for the Canada Slam in New York more than once.

38:16Matt Roberts: Yeah, absolutely. 12 in a row I mean I'm about to say it again right now about someone else Niels Wink beat Sam Schroeder

38:25Jannik Sinner: 6-1, 6-3 in the quad wheelchair singles final that is Wink's fifth slam in a row so he already holds all four but in New York he will be going for the calendar slam aged just 23 so lots of calendar slams in play in New York this year Yubi Kimmiji and Jun Jun Zhu beat Lu Zhaohui and Wang Ji Yang 6-4, 7-5 to win the women's wheelchair doubles title and in the women's doubles final played on centre court ahead of the men's singles final. There was a great crowd in for this. Amazing number of the Royal Box attendees showed up for this women's doubles final. Good on them. Christina Medenevich and Joel Han Yu beat Luisa Stefani and Gabi Dabrowski 6375 very emotional speech from Christina Modenovic paying tribute to her brother and coach long time well lifelong

39:26Matt Roberts: brother long time coach and Modenovic by doing this becomes the first French woman to win Wimbledon in doubles since

39:38Catherine Whitaker: Simone Mathieu

39:39Jannik Sinner: Simone Mathieu in 1937 wow

39:43Catherine Whitaker: that is amazing

39:45Jannik Sinner: Matt loved that stat that came through earlier

39:50David Law: so cool can't wait for Christina Medinovich's court

39:55Jannik Sinner: and look they were awesome today Luisa Stefani did have her arm in well a contraption quite frankly it was more than a it was more than a round itch style sleeve

40:09David Law: looked like one she borrowed from Carla Zalcras

40:12Jannik Sinner: Yeah, it was, I don't think they were quite at their best today. They got off to such a rough start, didn't they? Yeah, they were five left down.

40:20Catherine Whitaker: Very quickly and got back into it, but couldn't overcome.

40:24Jannik Sinner: Did well to make a match of it at all, but incredible achievement by Medenovic and Guo Han Yu. In the boys' singles, 16-year-old qualifier Jordan Lee had a comeback win over Cruz Hewitt, son of former champion Leighton Hewitt, 4-6, 6-4, 7-5. He was a set down. He was a breakdown in the deciding set here. He broke Hewitt to win the title. Hewitt was displeased.

40:54Catherine Whitaker: I'll say.

40:56Jannik Sinner: He's got a bit of his dad in him, hasn't he? What did he do? Well, he played a shocking game to lose the match. Okay. And he was losing his mind a bit. Yeah. Which, you know, he's a 17-year-old kid. You know, I'm not coming for him.

41:09Catherine Whitaker: but yeah I think the stats showed that he only hit seven backhand unforced errors in the whole match but two of them were in the final game and there was a double fault in there as well he he plays very very quickly you know it feels like he's modelled his whole like vibe on court on Kyrgios he's got he's got the forehand he's got the forehand that you know is clearly got some Kyrgios influence.

41:37Jannik Sinner: That very languid way he steps up to the service line.

41:39Catherine Whitaker: He just gets up to the line, he bounces the ball in the same way and he just hits the serve. I remember him when he

41:45David Law: was younger, I remember him hanging around with Kyrgios a lot. Well, that is a shame to hear. I do remember that.

41:52Catherine Whitaker: And he was shuntering away to his box the whole time. You know, it was very boys' singles.

42:00David Law: Where's Jordan Lee from?

42:01Jannik Sinner: Jordan Lee's American and And he was the youngest player in the field. And he's won the thing. He qualified. Qualified. I believe he is considered a real talent. I know that doesn't always mean a lot. It's very early days. This age group, I believe, for US men, is very promising. And he's considered to be the leader of them at the moment. Ben Shelton is a big believer in him.

42:31David Law: Did you get a sense of his game at all? or his physique? He's quite small. Small, I mean, youngest in the field.

42:39Jannik Sinner: He's 16, I think turned 16 fairly recently. So he looks like a boy. Yeah, yeah.

42:45Catherine Whitaker: But, you know, not only does Ben Shelton really rate him, but he hits with him and practices with him. Oh, OK. That's pretty cool for a kid, isn't it? It's kind of, he's his practice partner when he goes back home and trains. And yes, there was another young American in the French Open final, Michael Antonius, just last month. So, yeah, there's a couple of them there.

43:10Matt Roberts: Yeah, and everybody's been excited about Darwin Blanche for a while. He's had a few main draw wild cards, hasn't he, which can be a bit of a poison chalice. But, yeah, there's a few, there's a crop that are considered real prospects, a bit like the Fritz Paul... Who else is in that? A Pelker. A Pelker. Tiafoe. Came up with a Pelker before Tiafoe.

43:36Catherine Whitaker: I knew David would say Tiafoe.

43:38David Law: Didn't he, didn't Tiafoe end up, sorry, Pelker end up winning the boys' singles here many years ago? He won one.

43:45Matt Roberts: Tommy Paul won the French. Yes, I think Pelker did win here. They were contemporaries at the time. That would make sense.

43:53Jannik Sinner: One last result to bring you from today. The Bryan brothers won the men's invitational doubles for the fifth year in a row. You surprise me.

44:02David Law: They're quite good still. It'd be fascinating to stick them in the main drawer.

44:06Jannik Sinner: How many years do you each think it will be before the Bryans don't win the men's invitational doubles here? Because they're going to keep getting invited because they're members, which I don't begrudge them, but why they're members and Pam Shriver isn't a member is baffling to me. Absolutely. Me too. So they're going to keep getting invited. in what year do they not win?

44:33Catherine Whitaker: Like 20, 30, 30. Yeah. That is really far away. I mean...

44:40Jannik Sinner: Well, they'll get... The thing is, there's two age categories, aren't there? I don't know. So they'll... You know a lot more about this. They'll keep winning and then they'll graduate. Perhaps anyone on the planet, Catherine. Then they'll become the youngest in the next age category. Oh, okay. So I think they could have more than a decade of winning.

44:55David Law: When do they go back into the anti-doping pool and start trying to enter the mixed doubles at the US Open?

45:02Jannik Sinner: I certainly wouldn't rule that out. Although one of the Bryans was in Jordan Lee's box during the boys' singles final. Who could say which one? If they're not holding a racket. Tough to tell.

45:15Catherine Whitaker: It's very tough to tell.

45:18Jannik Sinner: Oh, one last time.

45:20Catherine Whitaker: We'll be closing in around 15 minutes. Come on, guys. please make your way to the exit gates and make sure you take all your belongings with you

45:29Jannik Sinner: we hope you've enjoyed your day here at wimbledon and we wish you a pleasant and safe journey home

45:36David Law: thank you pretty good i recorded for you didn't i a minute and a half of johnny perkins who does that wonderful announcement when he opened the gates this morning and i said doesn't he sound like Paddington Bear.

45:54Jannik Sinner: And he was actually doing the announcements this morning.

45:57David Law: He was,

45:58Jannik Sinner: well, not for a moment, suggesting that one might be pre-recorded. But he was, you know, he was, he had to show up to work today. He's put his work. He's here every day. I just don't think he's here doing that announcement every day.

46:15David Law: He used to run the media section, so he's put his shift in and now he's doing this. Absolutely. look we have our

46:23Jannik Sinner: we have our Wimbledon review show coming up on Tuesday for Friends of the Tennis Podcast so we'll have an opportunity to sort of big picture look at the tournament and give our reflections but do we have any sort of right now in the immediacy of it all you know what you're going to remember this Wimbledon for how you feel about it whether it's been a good one a great one an all timer to me

46:47Catherine Whitaker: it's felt like a really good tournament a really nice mix of first week drama and the whole Serena Williams comeback and you know that feels a long time ago sure does and obviously that you know that ended in you know fairly disappointing fashion in terms of the injury and then not getting the doubles so that was a shame but you know I'll always remember the drama of the draw obviously and and where her name's going to come out and like it was it was a good first week because i felt like we had a really nice mix of upsets but enough great stories and names left in in the tournament particularly on the women's

47:29David Law: side remember when i told her assistant referee you got the best job in the world

47:36Catherine Whitaker: publicly that didn't go down so well and i and i think it's been an interesting tournament in terms of like well koko goff can play on grass nemi osaka can play on grass alexander's very can play on grass like it's it's it's ripped up some some narratives that we've probably built up over the years and and i think added a a bit of a lease of life actually to wimbledon and in terms of like oh who were the who were the contenders on this surface and who were not and it's it's you know it to some extent the opposite's also been true and like what we've always known has also been true in some places like yannick sinner and like the czech women and there's there's been that push and pull of new narratives and old ones, which I've really enjoyed trying to sort of untangle and understand.

48:23Catherine Whitaker: Yeah, and the weather's been absolutely glorious. We've not had a rain delay the whole tournament. Apart from when we did our free show on this

48:34David Law: bench.

48:34Matt Roberts: It wasn't a delay though. We hardly broadcast through the rain.

48:38David Law: We're not like these players needing to go off for bad weather. Absolutely.

48:42Jannik Sinner: Favourite match?

48:45Catherine Whitaker: Gosh, I think the two that come to mind are Goff, Mukova, and in particular the drama of the tiebreak. And then I really enjoyed what Djokovic did against Orjali Asim. And that night I thought was pretty special watching him do that again.

49:10Matt Roberts: Longest quarterfinal in history. David?

49:13David Law: Yeah, I don't think I can better that, but I do think I will remember Arthur Ferry's run and particularly his matches against Dimitrov and Kabbali. I just thought he was such a breath of fresh air, I thought, and the way he played. I love to see somebody just go out on the big stage and blossom like that. It's brilliant to see. But yeah, definitely the ones you mentioned I will remember.

49:40Matt Roberts: Seven weeks to the US Open. Anyone want to make some predictions?

49:44David Law: Sure. Go on then.

49:49David Law: Coco Gauff. For the US Open? Yeah, I like that. The way she attacked the net in those matches just makes me want to see her do that. And I think she will... I want to see her going to the US Open not completely overwhelmed by demands. I don't know whether that's possible anymore for her, But she seems like the whole thing is a bit too much for her sometimes at the US Open.

50:15Catherine Whitaker: And there's that whole thing of she wants to play day, but ESPN want her in the night. There's just a lot going on.

50:22David Law: Honestly, I just think if she keeps charging the net, it's going to simplify her life. And she's going to become more of a nightmare to play. So she's the one. I like that. But are you sticking with Pagula?

50:36Matt Roberts: Oh, yeah.

50:37David Law: Of course.

50:38Catherine Whitaker: Pagula.

50:38Matt Roberts: You've driven yourself down a Pagula cul-de-sac No,

50:43Catherine Whitaker: of course Pagula's winning the US Open How could I forget?

50:46Jannik Sinner: Okay, do you actually think that?

50:51Catherine Whitaker: I wouldn't take her over the field But let's go Pagula

50:55Jannik Sinner: Okay, will we see Serena Williams play singles at the US Open?

51:00Catherine Whitaker: Injury permitting, I think yes

51:02Jannik Sinner: Will we see her in the mixed at the US Open? Oh yeah, sure

51:05Catherine Whitaker: I think yes

51:06Jannik Sinner: Who are you going to boldly predict Will win the men's at the US Open Go on Go crazy Somebody named Arta

51:19David Law: Lots of choice

51:20Jannik Sinner: Hang on a second

51:22David Law: I was just thinking though There's plenty of weeks for Arta Feast to really Get himself going now Isn't there Is he fit? What are you hearing? I've no idea

51:33Jannik Sinner: You've no idea if he's fit but you are predicting him to win the US Open So it's been him or Arthur Ferry.

51:38David Law: Or Rindeknesh. There's loads of Arthurs. Kazo might make a bit of a comeback and a run. Who knows? No, he is out for the year. Yeah, no, he's, yeah.

51:47Jannik Sinner: It's Rindeknesh, Fese, Ferry, or someone we don't currently know about.

51:52David Law: It really is hard to believe that it could be anybody but Sinner, if Sinner's fully fit. Because he is the best. He absolutely loves it. There's no Alcrest around unless something happens that I'm not expecting. I think Sinner, it depends how many night matches he gets. Because we haven't had New York heat for a couple of years of the debilitating kind. That's true. It was the last time Zverev beat him, wasn't it? It was that US Open match. When Zverev beat Sinner at the US Open that day was one of the most miserable nights of weather I can ever remember at any tournament. Like nobody wanted to be there.

52:34David Law: It was horrible.

52:35Matt Roberts: We've just been reminded in the chat, by the way, of the existence of Arthur Géa, who was last seen telling the umpire on Longland that he was going to shit himself. I'm sure he's been around since then, but I've been less aware of his work since that moment.

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54:04Matt Roberts: I'm going to tell you a bit about our plans now, folks. Our next show will be on Tuesday, just two days from now.

54:10Jannik Sinner: We can't stop podcasting. That will be a Wimbledon review show where we look back on the tournament as a whole with the help of some esteemed contributors to try and make sense of it all. That show is for Friends of the Tennis Podcast. It is one of at least 28 bonus shows that we record each year exclusively for Friends of the Tennis Podcast. That includes four Grand Slam review shows, 12 live Q &A shows, eight editions of Tennis Relived, our series where we look back on the history of the sport, and also our latest edition to the Friends of the Pod Collection, Tennis Podcast Meets, where we interview players and try to get to know them, quite frankly, and we release that ahead of every Grand Slam.

54:51Jannik Sinner: You also get ad-free listening, access to The Barge, which is our toxicity-free community platform, although Matthew was catching some strays on there earlier. Matthew takes issue with us.

55:01Catherine Whitaker: You've got to get on the barge and defend yourself, Matthew.

55:04Jannik Sinner: Matthew's taking issue with the fact that we claim to be an untoxic environment on there. Make better predictions, Matthew, and you'll be safe. It is moderated and captained by Hannah, who is in our YouTube chat right now. She's our brilliant writer. She also publishes a monthly column for Friends of the Pod, and it is breathtaking every time. So if you would like to become a friend of the pod for£6 a month, then the link is in the episode description and show notes wherever you are watching or listening to us right now. I have to say one last huge hello to Phoebe. Hello, Phoebe.

55:42Catherine Whitaker: Hello, Phoebe. Just looking at her little face.

55:45Jannik Sinner: Such a good photo. What a poser she is. Excellent mascot. I love Phoebe so much. She makes me want to get a corgi. Billie Jean would not tolerate it. Or any other dog. Thank you Phoebe for being such a beautiful and excellent mascot this fortnight. We appreciate everything about you, especially your wonderful ears and thank you to Priyanka for sharing her with us again. Priyanka sent me a picture of Phoebe at a particularly stressful moment during the football last night and I always seek dog content in moments of great stress and my mum was not awake to send me any and Priyanka read my mind so thank you Priyanka and thank you Phoebe we have a few more very important thank yous first and foremost folks round of applause for Matthew

56:37Jannik Sinner: he's late he has shit takes on cake he has bad predictions but we love him so much

56:45Catherine Whitaker: so much all round legend I am going to miss Matthew's laugh in my bones from tomorrow we've seen him like what 18 days in a row what are we gonna do

56:58Jannik Sinner: with us i honestly don't know i'm dreading days without without matthew's chuckle in them

57:03Catherine Whitaker: matthew we love you thank you thank you matthew uh second thank you is to jib

57:09Jannik Sinner: another round of applause i think

57:15Jannik Sinner: jib who uh i don't even know where to start with jib we we've never met him and we love him so much he's our editor in the philippines he's on a tennis journey the philippines is on a tennis

57:26Catherine Whitaker: journey he he's watched a grandstand final live for the first time now uh yesterday's and he got all the drama of that and we're like it's always like is it always like it's always like this jib keep coming back.

57:39Jannik Sinner: And we have requested a jib voice note for our Wimbledon review show and I am excited. And he has accepted.

57:48Catherine Whitaker: Yeah, oh absolutely.

57:49Jannik Sinner: And there is also going to be a Matthew voice note, our Arthur Ferry correspondent. We are excited. There's also going to be a Hannah voice note. Hannah is our next thank you. Yeah, another round of applause. Hannah, we love you so much. It was wonderful to see you a couple of days ago um Hannah does just the most extraordinary work if you're in the chat with Hannah right now tell her how amazing she is she hates it I know all the more reason it's all the more reason to tell her that she's brilliant and the same goes for Vicky who we would be thanking from the bottom of our hearts anyway because we honestly don't know how we would get anything done without Vicky but Vicky has spent the last two days camped in a Costa coffee.

58:36Jannik Sinner: She's watched both finals on Costa coffee Wi-Fi. She's live right now stage managing this show from I think actually Costa might have kicked her out. I don't know. She sent a very sad message earlier about having to browse the dinner options in Costa. Vicky, we hope you're okay. We hope Wi-Fi comes back to your village soon and we thank you so much for all your efforts and company and vibes and organisation and

59:04Catherine Whitaker: yeah I wake up the morning of every Grand Slam now and Hannah has written something on the bulge that will just make me burst out laughing over over my breakfast and Vicky will have organized my life in such a way that all the stress of the previous evening has just gone away and we love them both so much so much next thank you goes to david smith

59:36Jannik Sinner: in the chat who says vicky's having a cost of living crisis

59:40Catherine Whitaker: what wasn't didn't come on that's good that's good david some incredible chat work the other night as well.

59:47Jannik Sinner: That's quite good. That is quite good. Come on.

59:49Catherine Whitaker: There was a great moment in our WhatsApp group when I was like, Vicky, I cannot believe you're in Costa for this final. And Jib pops up, Costa Rica?

59:59Jannik Sinner: Vicky wishes she was in Costa Rica. But no, we thank you, Costa, because without Costa, who knows where it would have been for these last couple of days. Our next thank you is to Gorona.

1:00:13Jannik Sinner: She might be out of the World Cup sweepstakes, but

1:00:15Catherine Whitaker: she's oh she's with me in the loser lane in the world cup all the best people are out of the

1:00:20Jannik Sinner: world cup sweepstakes and gorona is one of the very best and she elevates everything we do and makes us look professional and snazzy and we appreciate that so much

1:00:32David Law: i found an old website design she did of mine in 1998 there wouldn't be there would be no business if you hadn't figured out how to do that

1:00:43Jannik Sinner: we thank you Gorona apparently we wouldn't all be sitting here without you I'm telling you our next thank yous are to Ava and Matt Ava Wallace Matt Futterman who appeared on our preview shows today and yesterday and to the whole athletic team who add so much to our Grand Slam experience obviously being part of the Athletic Podcast Network has been brilliant for us but we also just love hanging out with them and sharing tennis opinions and hearing their perspective on the sport which can quite often be very different to ours and reading their pieces which really enrich and inform the way we cover the sport

1:01:18David Law: it really it really has changed like it just gives me another angle on on the whole sport absolutely life itself almost fascinating and thank you charlie for stepping in last week

1:01:30Jannik Sinner: when i was absolutely out of action charlie was yeah charlie was going to get a well charlie does get a very special thank you. He did another podcast after that.

1:01:41Catherine Whitaker: The next morning. He did his football cliches pod. It was like two o 'clock in the morning when he got home. There was an England game happening. He got up at God knows what time and did another podcast. All while juggling an extraordinary home life at the moment. He's still got no kitchen.

1:02:00Jannik Sinner: And all while still seeming pretty relaxed and chilled. Absolutely. He's always alive. still the most stressed I've seen him is that time Arsenal lost at the US Open

1:02:10David Law: when he's discussing VAR or Kevin Friend

1:02:13Jannik Sinner: yeah absolutely thank you Charlie, Matt, Ava, James, Charlotte all of you Kiva, Max it's been brilliant our next thank you goes to Barclays without whom we would not be here and we thank you very much indeed for sponsoring this show over the course of these 18 days 17 days live at Wimbledon And we did a show the day before that that Matthew showed up for expecting to film. And we didn't need it filming. So we just had a free dinner. He enjoyed his squash as well. He did. He enjoyed his dinner. He enjoyed his squash. He went on his way. And our final thank you is to Wimbledon. Look at this place.

1:02:50Jannik Sinner: For existing. It's pretty good. And for having this tournament. There's this tournament.

1:02:54Catherine Whitaker: You might have heard of it.

1:02:55Jannik Sinner: It's called Wimbledon. They've got a curfew. And it's beautiful. And we love it. And we are very, very lucky to be here and to be doing these shows every night of the tournament. It has been an absolute joy. And we thank you for joining us for them, whether you listened as a pod or joined us live on YouTube or caught up on YouTube. However you've consumed these shows, it has been a great pleasure to have you along for the ride. And if you weren't along for the ride, we'd just be chatting amongst ourselves. So thank you very much. thank you to our mascot as always Bodhi, Maisie, Roger overall a positive tournament from a fantasy league perspective I feel like I'm to quote Matthew for Wimbledon 2026 I've got the champ Yannick Sinner

1:03:43Catherine Whitaker: Linda Nozkova

1:03:44Jannik Sinner: you had Nozkova I wondered who had Nozkova I had Mukova I have Mukova

1:03:50David Law: well Maisie we've been ripping it up We were pretty good in the prediction standings. I've got, look, I mean, I've got today's right. That was quite good. Yeah. And I actually genuinely feel a bit of like, oh, you did quite well there from you on that one.

1:04:09Matt Roberts: Is that you talking to yourself? No, I'm thinking that.

1:04:12David Law: Oh, you're quoting Matt. I'm feeling your vibes are surprisingly respectful to what I predicted. I'm trying to finish this.

1:04:22Jannik Sinner: I'm trying to finish this on a cordial note.

1:04:26David Law: Yeah, but usually I cock it up, don't I? And today I haven't. So, you know, I've had some respect and it's been quite nice. And then my fantasy team are just flying. What would my Novak Djokovic sort of purchase? That was unbelievable.

1:04:42Jannik Sinner: I'll say it again, it was a great bit of business. But you do still have Oliver Tarvit in your team.

1:04:47David Law: I know, but the year is long.

1:04:49Jannik Sinner: Maybe not that long. when will we next feature Oliver Tarvit in an agenda David one last prediction from you I mean legitimately probably this time not for lols

1:04:59David Law: about 50 weeks time no he's going to have a bit he's going to get himself going on the challenger circuit I'll be giving you updates we'll be doing Joanna Garland and we'll be doing Oliver Tarvit this time next week okay

1:05:13Jannik Sinner: I look forward to laughing at that every single time thank you Bodie Maisie and Roger thank you and hello to our top folks and executive producers is as always Greg, Chris and Jeff we salute you and it is time for some last Wimbledon shout outs Matt

1:05:27Catherine Whitaker: We have two today to finish on and the first of those is Chris Rushford who wants to shout out his new wife Katie

1:05:36Jannik Sinner: Aww Chris

1:05:37Catherine Whitaker: Consider it done Chris says by the time this is being read out we will have been married for one whole day Aww

1:05:47Jannik Sinner: They got married yesterday then They did indeed So great

1:05:50Catherine Whitaker: Chris says well whilst we've both been listeners since 2020 we've been together for 17 years having met at university in 2009 uh if all goes to plan we'll be listening to this together in the car on our way down to Cornwall where we first met and where I also proposed thank you Catherine David and Matt for soundtracking our summers for the Daily Slam podcast for the Relive series and for shouting Katie out on her favourite podcast.

1:06:19David Law: Bye, Katie.

1:06:21Jannik Sinner: Congratulations, Chris and Katie. Hope you had a wonderful wedding. If all goes to plan was a bit ominous in that sentence.

1:06:28Catherine Whitaker: I'm going to take that to mean if we saw his request for the shout-out to be today. Rather than if the wedding... Yeah, but of course we did because see everything we said about Vicky. Exactly.

1:06:41Jannik Sinner: Of course we did, Chris.

1:06:42David Law: If I'd have been in charge, you'd have had it in about three weeks.

1:06:45Jannik Sinner: Thank you so much for that shout out. That's really lovely and touching. I hope you had a wonderful wedding day. I hope you're now on a sublime honeymoon. The weather in Cornwall looks delightful.

1:06:58David Law: Yeah.

1:06:58Jannik Sinner: What more could you hope for? Chris, like Chris Lewis.

1:07:04David Law: Chris Lewis, yeah.

1:07:05Jannik Sinner: And Katie, like Katie O 'Brien, who was in the invitation, in the legends.

1:07:11Catherine Whitaker: Quite right. Your legends knowledge continues.

1:07:14Jannik Sinner: I do find it quite funny and fascinating. Legends correspondent. I actually didn't mention who won the women's, but it's because I don't know. It looked like it was going to be Safarova and Rabarakova.

1:07:25David Law: Well, I look forward to your report on it in our review show.

1:07:28Jannik Sinner: I was trying to pitch Matt Futterman a piece on the legends today. He was quite up front. He was quite into it. But James was like, absolutely not. No one's reading that.

1:07:40Catherine Whitaker: If you want to write it, Matt, we'll publish it.

1:07:42Jannik Sinner: Absolutely we will. Katie, Chris, congratulations and thank you for being friends with the Tennis Podcast.

1:07:50Catherine Whitaker: And finally, we have Dante Persico from Santiago. Oh my word, what a name.

1:07:58Jannik Sinner: One of my favourite places I've ever been, Santiago. Dante. Loved it. And my dad, it's top of his list of bucket list places after watching the Santiago tournament this year.

1:08:11Catherine Whitaker: he's desperate to go and Santiago writes my name is sorry Dante writes my name is Dante and I'm writing to you from Santiago Chile I imagine you probably don't have many listeners from this far corner of the world I simply wanted to say thank you you've made following the sport I love even more special than I ever thought it could be through your conversations I laughed I feel moved I celebrate the victories and I share the disappointments. Even from thousands of miles away, listening to you has become part of how I experience this beautiful game. You make tennis feel personal, alive and even closer.

1:08:50Catherine Whitaker: My family is my wife and our daughters. And then there's Fiona, our 17-year-old beagle, whom I often call my other daughter. She's been my faithful companion through so many moments in life. last year I fulfilled a lifelong dream by attending the US Open standing there watching the world's best players in person was something I'll never forget now I'm hoping to continue that journey by making it to the other three slams we like Dante

1:09:19Jannik Sinner: we like Dante please if and when you do make it to the other slams Dante please say hi come see us please I reckon in a few years we're going to be talking about you completing your fan slam Absolutely. And we love that. Dante, what a wonderful note to end on. An absolutely perfect shout out, selected by Vicky, of course. Very well done, Vicky. And I think that's all she wrote for Wimbledon 2026. I kind of don't want to wrap it up. I could sit here for the next 50 weeks doing this, but we do need to sleep. Matt needs to buy a house. David needs to go to Portugal. We all need to record another podcast on Tuesday.

1:09:59Jannik Sinner: Pam has just arrived in the chat Pam Shriver's here I know this because Pam has said Pam is late but here which is absolutely perfect folks one more time thank you so much for joining us for these live from Wimbledon shows here at the championships in 2026 it has been a great great pleasure to bring them to you congratulations to the champions Linda Nozkova, Yannick Sinner everybody else too that has lifted trophies over this weekend. Thank you, David. Thank you, Matt. One last time, we will speak to you soon.

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