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2:14Today, no international break. Not now, as ahead of extended Nations League hiatus. Premier League teasingly busts out most dramatic round yet. Seagulls put three goals past Arsenal. Bs put Chelsea on their knees. Coventry get first win, while De Vita Villa leaves De Zerbe on track to match 07-08 Derby. We'll talk all of that and more in this Totally Football Show. Yes, indeed. Thank you so much for joining us on the Totally Football Show. So Sunday the 20th of September, as we come together in the studio on a Sunday night with Daniel Story here in the flesh. Yes. Fresh back from Fulham. Fulham against Man United.

2:57Matt Davies-Adams: Yes, indeed. Fought through Putney Bridge, stationed to be here. Tick. Yeah. Excellent. All right. Matt Davis Adams is here. What route did you employ? Oh, I've been all over the country today, James, from Grantham to Waterloo. He's waking him back again. All in the pursuit of some football that didn't leave me feeling cross like most of the football I've watched this weekend. Well, tonight you'll come with us on a journey. A journey, some football illumination, perhaps, Matt? Perhaps. Perhaps. Colin Miller's with us as well. Colin's got a great stat for you later on. You're going to love it. Love it.

3:33Colin, how are you? I'm very well, James. How are you? Excellent. We've also got Thomas and Charlie in the booth and you in the audience. So thank you very much for doing that. Loads of people on the chat right now. Of course, we're live. It's a Sunday night on YouTube. And actually, cheekily, you know, what with it being an international break and an extended one. Benji, Benji Laniard was observing on Thursday's show that Eddie Howe is right there. So we asked your thoughts, which club might get on the blower over the international break. week martinez was first in saying how about england calling how after they get battered by spain on the 26th loads of other people mentioning your spurs is your man united's but realistically is there it's surely too early even with an extended international break is there a club out there that might actively be considering a change colin um i mean there might be clubs putting in contingency plans.

4:31Are you being coy because you just said somebody? Well, you know, there's 20 Premier League clubs, any one of them at any point of time. What was the one that you just mentioned before we went live? Well, I think the one club who maybe, and they actually haven't had a bad result, haven't had a bad week, would be Crystal Palace. Crystal Palace. Pierre, Sage. But he's just arrived there. Why would he be on the way out? Well, there's just been a little bit of background noise that maybe the ownership and the coaching staff haven't exactly had the synergy that they maybe would have wanted in the opening weeks and this sort of dates back to actually before the season had begun.

5:03So it's not results based. But yeah, let's see how that pans out. I don't think there's any major issue of a club looking to change manager at this point. It's very early in the season. But let's see. You'd augur that everyone will have a bit of patience. Nobody wants to see people leaving their positions this early.

5:24Matt Davies-Adams: Or do they, Daniel? Well, the away end at Craven Cottage today was pretty unhappy. booing Kobe Mainu being substituted, then doing his chance when Carrick brought him off. Right. And then I think from standing at Putney Bridge Station talking to a few United fans, not particularly happy with Carrick's post-match assessment that United were good stylistically, created loads of chances, the better team, weren't dominant all the match but should have won. And they were like, oh, we watched a different game from where we were stood behind the goal. Yeah. And then you got your Spurs fans, Matt. Yeah, I think I'm just looking at the Premier League table and wondering where Eddie Howe fits, because I think Man United think that they're too big for Eddie Howe.

6:06He doesn't know the club for one thing, which would be a big tick against him. And I think Eddie Howe's too sensible for Tottenham. So Daniel mentioned before we went live that he's an Everton fan. David Moyes does disgruntlement like nobody else. His face is set for it permanently. I wonder if he's reaching the end of his tether. So there could be a nice thing for him there. Although there is also potentially a job opening north of the border. Today saw Celtic's rough start to the season continue with a one-door defeat at home to Rangers. Second defeat to Rangers within the space of seven days.

6:40Third defeat in the week, as they also lost in the Europa League against French Varos of Hungary. And each of those defeats has been quite bad, it has to be said. So, yeah, let's see how Celtic get on. And if you need a break from the Goldfish Bowl of Newcastle and the intense, fevered coverage of football in that city, then Celtic's probably quite a nice landing spot. Indeed so. Many thanks to everyone who's writing in. Thor864 says Spurs fan at the game yesterday. Aston Villa's Suzuki is a better passer of the ball than anyone in our squad. Well, we'll get on to that game shortly. Let's quickly check through the results on Matchday 5.

7:23Sunday down at the bottom right of the results page probably. You've got Liverpool 1-0 winners at the Vitality against Bournemouth. No goals between Leeds and Crystal Palace. Eight goals at the Etihad. It finished 5-3 between Man City and Sunderland. Brian Brobby with a hat-trick, but City with their fifth win out of five to go three points clear at the top of the table and a 1-1 draw in that match at Craven Cottage between Fulham and Man United. earlier on Sunday no sorry earlier in the weekend on Friday in fact Brentford beat Chelsea 3-0 there was more misery for Spurs who were also down 3-0 at home to Villa they did rally to make it 3-2 but only after half their fans had left Arsenal fans had just about finished laughing at all of that when their own club went down 3-0 to Brighton in what was the Seagull's 125th anniversary match and it was a mixed weekend for the promoted sides.

8:24Ipswich losing 1-0 at Everton. The Toffees still unbeaten. Newcastle handing Hull their first defeat. 2-1 that finish. But Coventry climbing off the bottom of the table with their first goal and their first Premier League win in what, about a quarter of a century? And that was away at Nottingham Forest. Yeah, Nottingham Forest. All right. We'll come to that game soon enough. But let's begin with events in the most recent of the matches. Fulham won Manchester United won. So you were there, Daniel. There was a comedy-owned goal. Well, there was a tremendously exciting first half with, what's the stat?

9:05The most shots without a goal in the first half of a football match ever in the Premier League. Ever in football, yeah.

9:13Matt Davies-Adams: I mean, it felt really open. It didn't necessarily feel like there were 26 shots. That might be partly because I was blinded by the sun over the Riverside stand. Oh, yeah. So I could barely see the pitch. So to my mind, Manchester United can play two ways. One is that it can be really chaotic and they can have lots of chances, but then the opposition has lots of chances. Or they can do this sort of slow passing around the back, which is what they do when they get scared of the first version and nobody has any chances. The good thing about this game is that Fulham are exactly the same. They can either be, you know, lose 3-2 at home to Palace and Chelsea or draw 0-0 at Anfield.

9:50Matt Davies-Adams: Both teams are just either 0-0 or 0-1, or they are 3-2 or 4-3 or whatever. Man United have won, what, 5-2? Yeah, and that was the game. It was really open, but both teams were bad in both boxes. Okay. Second half saw... A great own goal. A great own goal. One of the great own goals, I think, because it's obviously terrible from Martinez is because he has over a second to think about it and still manages to control it like a toddler. It sort of rebounds off him. But then because it rebounds off him, I don't think it's a back pass. So Senna Lamens can just catch the ball, I think. And yet he does a weird slide because he's afraid of catching it.

10:33Yeah. It takes him a while to make up his mind.

10:35Matt Davies-Adams: It's like he's just met his legs for the first time. He's like, yeah, we're going to go with these. Why not? And it was actually this... He'd done a save a little bit earlier where I thought he was going to use his hands and he'd use his feet. He does that quite a lot, actually. He's good with his feet. There was a save from, I think it was Josh King that he did with his feet. It was really good. But he just got himself an absolute mess. Some good saves up the other end from Bernd Leno. Leno was the most competent player in the match. Okay. But United eventually did get the equaliser. Yeah, via the first player I've walked to a Premier League round this season, seen in the team and not recognised his name, David Affengruber.

11:13Matt Davies-Adams: We were also... Yeah, I had, I mean, I immediately looked him up because I'm a professional, but... You feel like you want to salute him, right? Yeah, I did not. Definitely a bad year in A2. Yeah, really horrible deflux. I mean, United were knocking on the door by that point, I suppose, but that was the first time they played really, tried to play really quickly, and Fulham creaked, so it sort of reflected badly on both teams, I think. So Fulham, you mentioned they got a 0-0 at Anfield last weekend, then they beat West Ham during the week, and they get a point here, and looked for a while like they were going to take three against Man United.

11:45Are things beginning to come together for Abolo?

11:48Matt Davies-Adams: They've got a really nice thing going on where Oscar Bob and Josh King kind of swap places on the right and are good. And then Iwobi is the kind of dependable on the left with Anthony Robinson flying past him. And that will create chances. I don't think the striker is quite good enough. And Muniz is basically not scored forever in the Premier League. So that is a problem. They're going to be fun to watch. Well, like Man Utd, they're either going to be fun to watch or they're going to draw games nil-nil and they're going to close a team down away from home. But if they're fun enough at home and they shut down teams away from home, I guess they can pick up enough points.

12:25As for United, midweek they had that horror show against Brighton, 2-0 up and then losing 3-2 and a game against Fulham, I think we're bottom of the table at the time going into the match, seemed like kind of the ideal opportunity to bounce back. Instead, we had the Sermon to the second half, which one G Neville described as the worst United performance he'd seen in his life.

12:49Matt Davies-Adams: Yeah, it was 15 minutes. Or 15 minutes, OK. I mean, he must have missed the whole game because it's not a compliment, but that was worse, I think. Do you think? I mean, yeah, it sounded quite hyperbolic, but I get the point, which is that... What was so bad? So they were really chaotic first half and Fulham had four good chances. and they came out in the second half and were passing it really slow and not trying to go anywhere, but also then losing the ball in midfield quite a lot, which they weren't doing in the first half when they were playing slow. But by losing the ball, they were just inviting pressure and that's how the goal came from Bassey, winning it high at the pitch, robbing Tielemans, I think, of the ball and then just, yeah, just nobody reacting quick enough, certainly not like Sandro Martinez or Sano Lamans.

13:32Matt Davies-Adams: It was basically like tactical confusion plus penalty boxing competence equals us going 1-0 down to a pretty bad team. OK. Five points from five matches, the 13th in the table, and not just five points from five matches, but five points from Ipswich, Hull, Everton, 10-man Man City and the previously bottom of the table, Fulham. And their run coming up is, unsurprisingly, on paper, harder than that. my biggest issue with Manchester United is the physical conditioning of the players I don't think they're at a level where they should be I think they tire in games I think that they can get overrun a lot of the time certainly in midfield and it certainly happened in the first half when Fulham had those breaks and overloaded the far post I think Josh King maybe had two or three opportunities so much space at the back post wasn't there yeah and I think they just get overpowered a little bit and that's been consistent for the first month of the season there was a Uri Tielemans interview when he joined the club and he was asked what do you think about your training sessions he's like you know I'm really enjoying it because so much of it is technical focus but you know he was kind of making the point that we weren't actually doing a lot of running there wasn't a lot of physical work compared to maybe what there might be at other clubs where it's really intense for those sort of summer months I kind of think is that a tactic that Manchester United are looking at in terms of how they're going to play they don't want to they don't want to tire themselves out they don't want to create injuries for themselves exactly and is that something that they're trying to build into the season rather than rush through and try to be fully at your 100 % for that opening month.

15:06And I think that's evident, but obviously that's problematic. So they're looking to run about the same amount this season as last, but just do it across more matches. Well, look, I think that they're a team, then when you bring in Juri Tielemans, Andre Santos, they're not naturally the most athletic midfield players. Now, Carlos Boulibre might be a little bit different. He obviously hasn't played yet. But I do think that that is an issue for them. I think in the Premier League, that will get exposed slightly more than it might do in European football. I also think that when we look at Manchester United's fixture lists, Manchester United are one of the best teams in the world when teams give them space to play into.

15:41Whenever teams don't give them that space, they struggle. And that's a consistent theme, the same with their possession stats and everything else. We know that by now. So let's see how they do get on when they're playing teams who are willing to maybe play a higher line, who are willing to give players like Cunha and Mbwemo a little bit more space to run into. I would like a word for Fulham quickly because they obviously had that tricky start to the season. People were questioning Alvaro Arbolua in the sense that he'd come in from Real Madrid but hadn't really been a Real Madrid manager. He was sort of there to essentially do what Florentino Perez wanted to do at that point in time.

16:13But it's kind of interesting now that he's got his own team. So the first three games they lose by one goal in each of those matches. They're a little bit unlucky, but they're too open defensively. So he goes away to Liverpool. He brings in Sandu Berger to play alongside Shea Charles. so they've got that double pivot in midfield. And Affen Gruber also came in for his debut at centre-half alongside Calvin Bassey. And that's just made them really solid. It's taken a little bit away from their attack. But at Liverpool, they deserved that draw. They could have got more equally against Manchester United today.

16:42I did think they faded a little bit. But I don't see that as a team. I know that they were bottom of the table at the start of the day. I think they'll be OK. They're not a team that's going to get heavily beaten week to week. OK. A lot of people on the chat saying that United will be OK. as well. Matt, I don't know if you have a strong view on United. We'll maybe save that for another week. And talk about Man City-Sundland, because that was earlier on Sunday, and it was way, way more fun, I would suggest. Eight goals, with City eventually winning it, but they were pegged back by Sunderland, if you'll excuse that expression, three times.

17:19Brian Brobby, in fabulous form. Everybody loves a bit of Brian Brobby. Are you a fan, Matt? Yeah, he did injure a Forest player quite badly last season, but I've forgiven him for that. I mean, we're talking a lot about teams who struggle in the striking position and who don't get enough goals this season. So it is surprising that he, with all due respect, didn't get picked off by one of the bigger clubs in the summer, I think. I mean, Premier League hat-tricks are pretty rare these days when they don't contain at least one penalty or free kick, I seem to think. And you've basically got Broby and Haaland, and then I'm trying to think of another, you know, out-and-out old-school number nine striker in the Premier League.

17:56And there aren't very many of them. Maybe Liam de Lapp, but he didn't score a hat-trick this weekend. So probably a hot commodity, right? And he sort of outshone Haaland in this game. He missed the sitter and just about scored a goal. Haaland eventually did get his goal, which is the first time he'd ever scored against Sunderland and means that he hasn't scored against every Premier League team that he's faced. That's one of those stats that you just reel off and you go, all right, but if you really think about it, that's extraordinary.

18:23Matt Davies-Adams: I don't know if I don't like I'm walking dangerous territory here because I don't know what Colin Miller's stat is. But it relates to the Aston Villa Spurs game. He probably has one. Colin is great for stats. Well, this, according to one of the XG models, at least, is the most on record that Manchester City have ever faced XG in any match in any competition. It was over four. Yeah. First time they've ever faced four XG in a game. Because Brobby's goals were all, because of the beauty of their construction, pretty relatively easy finishes. Yeah. And Sunderland created other chances. And City looked panicky in defence.

19:00Matt Davies-Adams: I mean, it's kind of mad that the weekend that they go top of the Premier League by three points and have won every game. We're saying this, but they look like somebody's going to get at them. Yeah. But they got at somebody as well to the tune of five goals. And that's what you'll have games like this. if you win them. Although, I mean, here's the kind of counterpoint. Grace Robertson, for example, saying, City feel like they're doing a Liverpool 24-25. Team built by a great manager is still in place, but players working under somebody more relaxed and less intense. On the same note, that's annoying.

19:34But yeah. But elaborate then, Matt. Yeah, well, I mean, it almost feels like that's, I mean, it's not even damning with faint praise, is it? It's just damning Enzo Moresca rather than saying, And well done for taking over from the iconic manager of your football club's history and one of the great managers in the Premier League ever and making it look seamless. Obviously, that's much easier to do when you've got an excellent squad of players. But yeah, to have won as emphatically as they have been doing and to be managing other competitions as well. You know, they played on Thursday night, scored five goals in that game as well.

20:11But Mureska started well at Chelsea. He lost two of his first 16 Premier League games when he was Chelsea manager. Obviously helps that he has some knowledge of how the club works and how the league works. So maybe it is the sort of continuity appointment following a great that David Moyes and Unai Emery weren't. And this can be the one that books that particular trend. It helps when you spend nearly 250 million quid on two midfielders alone as well, I suppose. But yeah, it would be churlish to say that he hasn't made an excellent start. Yeah, indeed so. And this was an excellent game. City, in three weeks' time, will have a trip to Anfield, which will be quite a test, one imagines.

20:55And Donnie Riola still unbeaten and, in fact, victorious. Also in the early games on Sunday, away at Bournemouth, his former club. Colin, you were watching this. I think a lot of us looking at the fixtures three games taking place at the same time thought Bournemouth Liverpool was going to be the one but it wasn't the one was it Colin? It absolutely was not the one James it was a hard watch I think it's fair to say I think this was a slow burner Alexander Isaac got the only goal of the game 12 minutes into the second half that's his fourth league goal of the season which is more than last season for Isaac so I guess that shows what a full pre-season and full fitness can do he was and that's probably the main bright spark for Liverpool alongside another clean sheet.

21:37That's three in a row in the Premier League. Jeremy Jacquet has been very good in the centre of defence. Again, I thought he was quite a commanding presence. He's quite good on the ball and Liverpool can play out quite comfortably and it looks quite settled already. He has Ronald Orojo playing at right back. It's probably not his favourite position but he's kind of unspectacular but relatively solid there. I think Barcelona were quite happy to see him go because he struggled in that high line that anti-Flick team plays. But Liverpool is going to be a little bit different. And I think he looks quite solid, certainly compared to Jeremy Frimpong before, who's defensively quite erratic, I think it's fair to say.

22:13And maybe Bournemouth is slightly concerning, the fact that they've now played five in the league. They haven't won yet. I thought they were okay in this game, but the thing that gets me with this Bournemouth team a little bit is that even when they play okay, that's not really enough because I don't think in the striking department, certainly without Junior Kruppi being available and in the goalkeeping department too. Now Petrovic didn't make an error in this game but those are two key areas of the pitch where you can almost cheat a little bit whereas if you've got somebody who's maybe above the average you can get away with a below par game and win.

22:45I don't think Bournemouth can really do that. And in this game they had the ball in decent positions quite a lot but they ran out of ideas in the final third. They were making poor decisions. And yeah, they've got European football this season. A very impressive win out of Real Sociedad on Thursday night. but is this going to be a case of they play quite high intensity football so an extra eight plus games in the Europa League might make it challenging by the middle of the season so I just keep an eye on Bournemouth because I kind of think they don't have the depth that maybe other teams in the league do But then you'd take it wouldn't you if you know not to make it all about Forest but a similar position to Bournemouth would Bournemouth take finishing between 14th and 17th and get into say the quarters or semi-finals of the Europa League this season I think they probably would.

23:30I think that's the trade-off that Sunderland and Bournemouth and Forest last season and Crystal Palace probably have to make because it is so difficult managing these extra... I mean, it can be up to... You're looking at sort of 15, 16 games you get to the semi-finals, right? So there is going to be a drop-off in your Premier League position. Nick Woolgar, hello Nick, says... Jacquet's presence and a Rojo's to an extent means Van Dijk now doesn't have to be everywhere all at once for Liverpool. Jack is such an upgrade on last season's Connate. Thomas Callen saying Liverpool played the first half at walking pace.

24:04Hmm. Yeah.

24:06Matt Davies-Adams: There's been quite a lot of that this season. Walking. Well, of teams sizing up each other in terms of not feeling like they want to commit full high intensity. Maybe reduce the game to 30 or 40 minutes in the second half and back yourselves to win that, particularly with European stuff. Yeah. and ahead of a, you know, we all say the international, you know, the international, but for most of those players, it's one of the busiest times of year in terms of travel. So, yeah, I get it. And when you win one nil away from home, with your best chance of the game, it absolutely works. Yeah, certainly does.

24:40Nick will go with another comment here. The camera angle makes Matt look very short. That's actually the chair. Yeah, I loaded it on purpose. I don't like being too high on the chair. I mean, I can change it if it's a huge chair. I'd say you're probably the tallest person here. Is that right? Yes, undoubtedly. Yeah? It's not a high bar, but... No. No. Okay. Sorry. That's right. As you mentioned, Bournemouth did get the victory 2-1 away at Real Sociedad on Thursday. Also victorious on Thursday in Europa League with Crystal Palace. Crikey, they were 4-0 winners over Lesch Poznan at Sirhurst Park.

25:16A goal is for them, though, against... or at Leeds at Ellen Road on this Sunday afternoon. There you go. Dominic Alvalluin is back in the England squad.

25:28Matt Davies-Adams: As he should be. And Morgan Gibbs-White is not. As he should be. I mean, whichever way round. He should be in the squad. He's the top scoring midfielder in Europe's top five leagues in 2026. Is that right? Indeed so. In Europe's top five leagues, no midfielder has scored more goals. And I don't even think goal scoring is in his top two best assets. What are his top two best assets? Creativity and pressing work rate. Okay. And he's good at those. And he also scores a bundle of goals. If you're Thomas Tuchel, why are you not picking him? What? I don't know. His argument is that he sees Morgan White purely as a 10 and he's got other 10s.

26:06Matt Davies-Adams: But then he did go on to mention Josh King in that chat about 10s, which is kind of bizarre. I don't know. I don't know what more he can do. I think initially Tuchel felt that Gibbs White lost the ball in dangerous areas, sometimes deeper. But, I mean, he hasn't done that for a long time. So I don't know. I suspect the honest answer is that we're talking about the 24th or 25th man in the squad. And he knows Eberreche Eze and he's happy for him to be that player. OK. England playing Spain next Saturday. We'll be doing a live Totally Football Show right after that, actually. I think you might be involved in that, Daniel.

26:41I'm invited. Because you've got shares in totally. Yeah, I'll be there. Anyway, good. Let's move on next to London Clubs in Crisis.

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28:58London clubs are in crisis, everybody. Teams like Arsenal are losing 3-0 at Brighton. You had Spurs beaten by Aston Villa, 3-2. And of course, you had Chelsea done by Brentford. Let's begin, though, with the phenomenal performance by the Seagulls, who went up against this Arsenal side who boasted the best defence in the league and absolutely smashed them 3-0. Could have been much, much more. This in front of a record crowd at the Amex who were celebrating Brighton's 125th year. They did what they do, what Herzl sets them up to do against the big sides, which is press with intensity. No side in the Premier League wins possession back more in the final third than Brighton do.

29:45They did it nine times against Arsenal. What a fabulous performance. And this in the end of a week, which has seen, as mentioned, and they come from behind 2-0 down against Man United. Prior to that, they'd beaten Coventry 5-0. They got nine players out injured at the moment, including all the players that you probably heard of who scored goals for them. They shipped a bunch of players out in the summer. Is this one of the...

30:09Matt Davies-Adams: It's disgusting, isn't it? Yeah. Is this one of the most impressive kind of feats of football management? Not just management, but, you know, management. Well, it's got to be one of the best recruitment teams going, has it? I mean, to pick Herzler, for one thing. He was 31 when they brought him in from the second division in Germany. It's disgusting, isn't it? Yeah, yeah. It's so annoying. Their women's team has just hired a 29-year-old manager as well, which is even worse. But, yeah, I made the mistake last time I was on him saying I thought they might struggle because of their squad depth. But I was forgetting, A, their recruitment team, and they are just the most un-household named team in the Premier League, right?

30:47and you have to accept that Beskagli, Vuskovic, Cema, Kostoulas, they might have quite Watford energy about their names, but they're actually going to have been very well scouted and be able to slot right into the way that Brighton play. And B, you know, Colin talks about the fitness levels of Manchester United, the fitness levels of Brighton are obviously off the scale. To be able to do that to a team like Arsenal in the way that they did it for 90 minutes is incredibly impressive. Off the back of that comeback win with another much-changed team at Old Trafford in the week. and I often think about that.

31:19That's more the credit of the coaching staff because you can change your whole team for a game and, okay, we're fresh because we didn't play midweek, but the coaching staff have still got to prep those games in a short space of time and that, I always think, is a particularly impressive feat if you can get back-to-back noteworthy results like that, scoring three goals in successive games, one at Old Trafford, one against the champions who we're all expecting to walk the league. Yeah, I can't praise them oddly enough, really, but just one of those days for Arsenal, isn't it? Well, yeah, but since everybody knows what Brighton do, why was it that Arsenal were so unable to respond in this game?

31:53Yeah, so I think Matt touches on it there, the way Brighton play football. It's very brave and it's a sense that if this doesn't go right, they can be cut open. And that has happened to Brighton at times this season. Obviously, they conceded twice early on against United, but they conceded three goals against Chelsea in the opening half an hour. And they came back in that game to rally quite strongly. So there is a way that... What does it do that's so brave? Well, they essentially press very, very high up. They'll have a group of four to five players pretty much constantly on the defenders slash the deep-lying midfielders.

32:26So that forces the opposition back. What it does do is it creates pretty big gaps in the game because there's so many players committed to one area of the pitch. So if you can play around that or over that in a certain way, then you can be in if you can get those combinations right. That does sometimes happen. sometimes Brighton can see two or three goals in this game they didn't now obviously you have to praise Brighton very very highly for what they do but I think also Arsenal who've kind of serenely gone through this opening month or so of the season hit a real stumbling block because they just couldn't get out and this happened again and again again Brighton were on this from the first whistle and I kind of think is partly this conditioned by Brighton starting slowly against United starting slowly against Chelsea that they really mature look that's not going to happen we're going to be on it from minute one and they were and pretty much every time you looked up to the screen Arsenal's defenders were trying to find a way to play round the aggressive attacking players and it wasn't working they were continually trying to do it and they weren't getting through it and Brighton were very very successful in doing so now you look at the two Brighton goals in the first half and they were long long range shots from outside the area superb finishes but that was a result of Arsenal dropping deeper and Arsenal not being able to get out Arsenal didn't really have any meaningful attacks until they went 3-0 down in this game and Arsenal haven't lost a game by three goals or more since May 2023 against Brighton and Hove Albion Really?

33:51Coached by Roberto De Zerbe Whatever happened to him But this is a thing that this is kind of in Brighton's DNA a little bit in terms of how they operate as a club I mean Matt's talked about sort of picking out Fabian Hursler who was at I think he was at St. Paulie before that but he was obviously picked because he fitted the identity of what the club wanted So he fitted the identity of what the players wanted and who they were recruiting. So it all fits and it all makes sense. This, of course, leads questions for Arsenal. Is this the blueprint for opposition teams to actually find these weaknesses?

34:23One thing to say we're going to do this, but to execute as well as Brighton did. Tremendously impressive performance. And we've listed so many positives about the Seagulls at the moment. Thomas Callum points out that some Brighton supporters last season wanted Hutzler out because between November, was it, and January, there was that spell when they couldn't win a game.

34:43Matt Davies-Adams: Yeah, it was like 16 games with that much. So is that part of the Brighton model that you can start well and then you're not going to be able to sustain this level of performance? And is this new squad that they've built maybe better suited for that? I think to an extent that's probably true. I think we should also say that having talked about how young Hursler was, he was also pretty inexperienced, and this was his first real rut in the Premier League. and he did get through it. And to his credit, to their credit, they stuck with him. But to his credit, he found a solution and Brighton immediately looked brilliant again this season.

35:17Matt Davies-Adams: I have no doubt that there'll be a spell this season where they look shorter of energy and have to either compromise what they're trying to do or accept that there are going to be a couple of heavy defeats in there. And if they go 2-0 down early, they won't have the energy to roar back. But they're third in the Premier League, so that's OK. That can happen. and my only hope from this season and this sounds negative and I don't mean it to be is that with the energy they played against Arsenal I hope they don't kind of spread them like because they've got Europe and they've got the league I hope they really go at Europe because that's everything like as a fan of a club who never thought they'd get back in that and did they're the nights that people remember more than the Premier League even if it's beating Arsenal like Liam talked about that being the best game like it can be the best game so far like you can have more if you really attack Europe.

36:07Matt Davies-Adams: Because that squad is good enough to... Yeah, if they win the Conference League final, that's the best. And they're the best squad in that competition, I think. Yeah, if you win the final, yes. But there's still like 16 games you get through where I think you'd think being Arsenal 3-0 is better. They can play their 13-man in some of these games at the moment, though. Atheist666, which is slightly interesting juxtaposition there, says no... Covering bases alike. Yeah. No fans last season wanted Herzl out. That was just nonsense press hype. Total nonsense. Gives people with that inside knowledge something to talk about.

36:41Okay. Fair enough.

36:42Matt Davies-Adams: That's the job. There you go. There we go. Well, so Brighton doing Arsenal, and they're kind of a strange stepsister club, Brentford. Yes. On Friday night, Matt, a game that you were commentating on. Yeah. Did Chelsea 3-0? Was this a similarly emphatic performance? Do you know what? I don't actually think it was. I thought the first half was one of the poorest games of football I've seen in an awful long time. And then Chelsea defended terribly, made some really poor decisions, conceded three goals. I have a lot of admiration for Brentford in the way that I do for Brighton. A lot of admiration for Keith Andrews.

37:25But I don't think they had to work hard and be brilliant to beat Chelsea 3-0. I think it was about Chelsea being really, really poor. certainly in the second half and lacking some luster in the first but you won't see a worse goal to concede in the Premier League this season than Jadon Anthony's header on the goal line from the corner and that is just astonishingly bad and then they concede two more when they're chasing the game but yeah, I don't wish to do Brentford down because as I say I find them very impressive in lots of ways but I think lots of teams would have beaten Chelsea 3-0 on Friday night playing the way that Chelsea did.

37:57Brentford are the best side in West London. They're also in the top five at the moment, unless I've got out of date information. I'm pretty sure they are. They've beaten Spurs, all right, and Chelsea now 3-0 in this campaign.

38:10Matt Davies-Adams: Disgusting, isn't it? Another B club. Another B club. Brentford and Leeds got a great opportunity to have a run at the top five this season, haven't they? Because Leeds are up in there as well. Yeah, and Brentford and Leeds don't have Europe like other teams who are playing well do. So, yeah, fantastic opportunity for them. Chelsea don't have Europe either. No, they don't. They also have the worst defence in the Premier League. How is that possible? Well, because I think a key component of it missed the whole of last season. Injured in Levi Colwell, another member, Maxence Lacroix, has looked slightly shaky at times.

38:43And then there's a bit of debate as to whether Wesley Fofana is a better option than Joshua Champong. But also Alonso's switched between a back four and a back three a lot. So there's quite a lot of uncertainty around there. and Emi Martinez doesn't look any better than Robert Sanchez, which is a problem. And I feel for Austin McPhee...

39:03Matt Davies-Adams: He's different though, because he's actually worse at kicking than Robert Sanchez, it turns out. Yeah, but he's just as bad at coming for corners. And Austin McPhee has had no influence over Chelsea's ability to either score from or defend a corner whatsoever. I mean, they had 12 corners themselves here and they were all pretty terrible. I mean, there's mitigation in that they had a midfield of Henderson and Barco rather than, you know, Caicedo and Ayan Other and no Jao Pedro. But I think it didn't go brilliantly right from the off for Alonso at Leverkusen, did he? Pulled him away from trouble in his first season, but they conceded a lot of goals, I think, during that time.

39:37So we are five games into the season and this is a team that finished 10th in the Premier League last season and were awful. So maybe to come in and expect him to win every game was unrealistic. stick but yeah there's a lot of problems to solve and they do have a big issue in midfield because they didn't have Rhys James and Romeo Lavia didn't start and that wouldn't be your ideal first. And Kaysedo? Kaysedo I think from a fitness perspective he probably could have played in this game but if he'd done that he'd have gone away with Ecuador for three weeks and you don't want that so that's why he didn't play on front.

40:08Ah all right then. Just a word on Brentford. Mamadou Sangare who everyone had been waving about as the signing of the summer. For the first two games. Yeah, didn't start this game. Oh. So, you know, came on and got booked almost straight away. Yeah, Jago Jarmulic started alongside Jan Eld and also Yannick Schuster, who I think got manned of the match or he should have got manned of the match if he did. He was excellent. Just his third Premier League star. Again, Nathan Collins was missing and kind of think, oh, that'll be a big loss. I was like, no, it won't because they've signed somebody. It's the exact same profile and just epitomises what Brentford were, but look, how Chelsea lost that game 3-0.

40:48is, I mean, I kind of think they fell apart a little bit in the final 10 minutes. You look at a team and sort of like the effort levels notably kind of dipped after the second goal and the defending for each of those three goals I thought was pretty shambolic. Yeah, worrying stuff. Man Run Good says, hurry up and get to the part where we laugh at Spurs. Well, I think we can do that right now if you want. I mean, there'll be people out there who are not laughing right now. People who perhaps left the Tottenham Hotspur Stadium well before the final whistle. Well before, indeed, the team finally scored their first goals of this Premier League season to at least make the scoreline a little bit more respectable.

41:333-2 it ended between Aston Villa and Spurs at the Tottenham Hotspur Stadium, but the Spurs goal is not coming until the 86th. And then the 98th minute, so yeah this was pretty emphatic stuff from Aston Villa who hadn't won a game all season in the Premier League at least had only scored one goal but managed three here and the other nice thing is new signings scoring new signings

42:00Matt Davies-Adams: Manzambi Manzambi yeah who kind of has had an odd narrative arc he was brilliant at the start of the World Cup and we're like this is the guy this is the guy and then immediately got injured and we didn't see him then came to Villa and we're like this is the guy this is the guy and then someone went he's actually injured for two months okay fine but yes we finally saw what we've the sort of start of the world cup window manzamba what did you think yeah he's obviously really exciting i said a couple of shows ago i'm worried about villa's chance creation without rogers and tielemans because i think the best chance creator left from last season were basically mcgin and buendia and i wasn't sure if buendia could carry on this kind of reincarnation of Leeds Buendia and Norwich Buendia but he obviously scored a brilliant goal but Manzambi takes the pressure off that because I think Mbaye is going to be a kind of slow burner he's going to take time to settle whereas Manzambi I think is fit for purpose now He's a very graceful player I love how many times he receives the ball with his back to goal and then just turns the player in one movement and then is directly running forwards I think that goal he got on the stroke of half time the confidence that that clearly gave him when he got going he was fantastic and this game was about new signings, wasn't it?

43:15About Aston Villa's new signings excelling and Tottenham's slightly less so. Slightly less so. Another of the signings, Nicholas Jackson, assisted, I think, by Mandami for the second goal before Buendia, unleashed that rocket for the third. Aston loves a goal at Tottenham, doesn't he? He's got a previous for that. Oh, yeah? Yeah, he scored a hat-trick there for Chelsea a couple of years ago. But it's funny with Villa, all the talk was they're not scoring any goals and they didn't. but then what three away in Bruges, three away at Coventry in the week and three away at Tottenham. So it can turn quite quickly, can't it?

43:48Here's a stat from Colin Miller. Here we go. Unai Emery has won more games at the Tottenham Hotspur Stadium than the last three Spurs managers put together. Put together, how is that possible? Well, he's managed five games as Aston Villa manager in the Premier League. He's won four of them. So you're saying that the last three Spurs managers put together have won less than four. Well, Roberto De Zervi won one. Igo Chiu didn't win any. And Thomas Frank won two. So three is fewer than four. Wow. And that doesn't include the FA Cup victory last season in January either. Right. Yeah, it doesn't make great reading, does it?

44:34I mean, Tottenham's home record is absolutely remarkable.

44:38Matt Davies-Adams: Two home league wins since the start of last season, is it? Three. Three, yeah. Wow. Well, clubs are doing all they can to get rid of season ticket holders, right? And it's good of Tottenham and Forrest to be so proactive. Once again, I'm sure we all saw this game and we saw a Spurs side doing what they seem to do every week, starting really brightly, creating chances, not taking the chances, going behind, failing to react in any way to that. Another remarkable number, which is the fact that they, well, actually, there's two. I can't find the one I was looking. Oh, yeah. They have not come from behind to win a game since November 2024.

45:14Matt Davies-Adams: That's what I was going to say. Like, there's a combination here. Firstly, you don't earn your kudos when you're 2-0 down. It's what we're all saying. You know, yeah, we show some fight. Yeah, but the better fight would be to do it 0-0 and, you know, be clinical and be ruthless and be efficient at that point. And secondly, the fight they show never actually, as you say, Jane, never actually ends up with them winning games. So that's not enough. That's proven not enough. Yes, they were pretty good for the first half hour, just as they were against Forrest, just as they were against Everton, just as they were against Villa.

45:48Matt Davies-Adams: Fine. But that enough, that is still a pattern of inefficiency. Being quite good but not scoring goals is a criticism. It's not a compliment. Right. And then they go and concede the goals anyway. Yeah. Modelled recruitment manager who got them over a barrel. I mean, we're talking about Brian Brobby. How much less could they have got him for than they spent 100 million on Sandro Tonali? for example. Or the fellas up front as well, but they're not far shy of 200 million on. So they have now got, I think I'm right in saying, their next four home league games, they've got Ipswich, they've got Coventry, they've got Fulham, and I think they've got Palace.

46:24Matt Davies-Adams: Their next away games are pretty hard, although the next one's Old Trafford, so TBC. But those next four home games are going to have to be the season because they're going to have to take 10 points from those, otherwise they're going to still be down there, having played the easier home games. and as Colin says, the home form's been absolutely wretched. So this is kind of now or never time, I think. Spurs have now lost as many games at the Tottenham Hotspur Stadium as Arsenal have lost at the Emirates. Do you think the fans listen to this and like this stuff? Probably not. That's an incredible statistic.

46:56Matt Davies-Adams: Yeah, they are quite bad, yeah. It feels like Roberto Di Zerbi's already begun the process of engineering his exit as well, doesn't it? You feel? Yeah, throw the players under the bus, cause a bit of a rift, get out while there's not too much Tottenham stank on me, getting them a good job. I am very disappointed, sad and frustrated for the performance. We can't lose the game in this way. I spoke with our four attackers in minute 51. I asked them to use their head all second half. I was telling people to be calm, but the second goal was incredible. If someone shouts be calm at you, that doesn't make you calm.

47:26Matt Davies-Adams: And also, De Zerbi has absolutely not got be calm energy about him whatsoever. He's got... So, no. He looks like a European DJ who would scream be calm at you from a stage it's not going to work is it right um quite a picture okay what we'll see in three weeks time they do make the journey to old trafford to meet fellow crisis club manchester united possibly without pedro poro who went down injured i actually think that that could help i think having archie gray is that defense just trying to get a defensive platform in and using gray just as the yeah they create quite a lot of chances anyway that's not the problem.

48:04Matt Davies-Adams: The issue is finishing them. So I actually don't think that's as big. I mean, no one wants anyone to get injured, but I think maybe going back to basics defensively probably isn't the worst thing. Okay. Let's see. Long time before those games roll round. Next up, let's check up on, ooh, Forrest and the other fixtures from this Matchday 5.

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51:02We're talking about Frank Reichard. You might know him for that, but he did so much more. When I say that, possibly it's on the bookshelf behind me. Well, anyway, the spitting image, if you will, him and Rudy Vuller. It's on the wall here somewhere, actually. Not the actual spit. Is it this studio or another studio? No, there is one in here, but we changed his pictures around. Not that you ever notice. Anyway, but we did do a podcast about Frank Reichardt, who is one of the most remarkable footballers who has ever played the game, I would say. Have a listen, see what you think. That was me. Who else was in?

51:35Duncan Alexander, Michael Cox, and Simon Cooper joined us from Paris. That was nice. Tomorrow, we'll be getting together to do a Totally Football Show European edition, checking in on the leagues before their international break, catching up on what happened between Roma and Inter and in the Madrid derby, what Barcelona have done now. Paris against Olympique, PSG against Olympique Marseille and also Harry Kane absolutely smashing the Bundesliga record for fastest player to reach 100 goals. He's now got 101 in 98 matches after his brace in Bayern's 7-0 win against Union Berlin in the always tight Bundesliga.

52:16now back in the Premier League we had oh the Black Country Derby is that the correct moniker for it yes yeah Black Country Derby the Black Country Derby

52:28Matt Davies-Adams: is it the Black Country Derby is it yes I'm going to say yes I think it is yes okay yeah no yeah it is was it a discrepancy where the Black Country technically begins and ends where does it begin and end well I mean it's you are walking yeah so I feel like Stoke is in the Black Country no sir potteries oh that's potteries so black country is black why is it a soot well it's the historic industrial industrial of the turn of the what Wilhampton West Bromwich is the black country because of the kind of smoke pollution black just soot everywhere really is that why they call it the black country I hope so now I think J.R.R.

53:09Tolkien based Lord of the Rings Mordor and the Shires because he grew up in Switzerland But he just turned it down a bit. Lovely rural England and then moved to, I think he moved to Birmingham as a young child and was inspired by that, apparently so. I hope I haven't.

53:23Matt Davies-Adams: Yes, it's Cole-related. Oh, God. Cole-related? Wow. That's a fascinating goalkeeper. It is the Black Country derby and it was won by Wolverhampton Wanderers after a classic defensive mistake in a derby. I don't know if anyone's seen this, but defender receives a pass on the edge of the box. Two Wolves players here, who the defender can, I'm pretty sure, see, and he tries to pass about the goalkeeper. in this sort of onrushing. And one of the two Wolves players delightfully puts the ball into the net and says thanks very much. OK, excellent. All right then. Now, Premier League, Nottingham Forest, none, Coventry 1.

53:58So Matt, you knew this would happen. Yeah. You said to producer Charlie on Thursday, I am going along to Forest 0, Coventry 1 on Saturday. Yes, that is what I said. And so it came to pass. And was I being wry no I just watch Forrest a lot um so pleased to get Coventry a step close to the magical 12 point mark yes but very very very terrible performance from Forrest not I mean Coventry weren't particularly good it was an awful game of football I've seen some bad football this weekend um what was the worst game you saw uh oh uh Brighton Villa in the WSL today that was worse but this was the most frustrating because the team I support were awful having looked good last week But yeah, and it pointed to a problem I think Forrest are going to have this season, whereby as good as Oliver Glasner is at the way he plays, there is little flexibility in it.

54:49And if a team works out how to nullify it, then it can be cut. How do you nullify it, asking for teams? Stop the wingbacks from getting forward, stifle any space for Morgan Gibbs-White in the middle of the pitch. Don't let James McAtee pass the ball and you're away kind of then, I think. And it was quite damning of Glasner as well, actually, unfortunately. And I'm sure that he and Forrest will figure it out. But his attempts to change the game were late and, in my opinion, incorrect. So Dan and Doy, who I am not a fan of in the slightest, shouldn't have come out for the second half, did, played on for too long, brings on Igor Jesus.

55:31who's Forrest end up playing a 4-2-4 formation with no width and Callum Hudson-Odoi sitting on the bench and concede just to... We're live on YouTube. The stupidest goal that you're likely to see in quite a long time. Goalkeeper punts the ball upfield, wing-backs nowhere near it, goalkeeper stays on his line, like just childish nonsense. So yeah, really poor. Obviously good for Coventry, but as I was saying before we came on air, terrible timing for Coventry. Yeah. You get your first win. Great, let's build on this. When's the next game? It's in three weeks' time. Not ideal. Forest have only won one...

56:07Matt Davies-Adams: Talk about Coventry. I will do. But Forest have only won one home league game in 2026, and the team they beat is currently bottom of the championship. Ooh, Burnley. So it's not... Indeed. So it's not brilliant. Coventry... Yes. Frank Lampard changed it, which is good. He's been playing. They've been trying to take teams on and being like, you know, we're in the Premier League now. We're not going to die wondering. Against Forest, he packed the midfield. and set off exactly what, as Matt says, exactly what you should do against Glasner. But they hadn't really done that in games now. So plus marks for Lampard for doing that because I don't think that comes naturally to him.

56:43Excellent. Plus marks for Jada Silva. Just checking the name of the goalscorer. It was his first goal for Coventry in his 127th appearance. In right one, said he'd be a better left-back than Ashley Cole. Did he say that? When he was coming through at Chelsea's Academy.

57:00Matt Davies-Adams: He's also, and I, for understandable reasons, will enjoy this. He's a very short footballer. You don't see very many pint-sized Premier League players anymore, but he's one of them. I mean, he's probably six foot. He's just shorter than everyone else, but he's really short. All right. So just very quickly on Coventry, that goal was a really nice finish. They have created seven opt-defined big chances this season, and that was the first one they'd scored, and they've only conceded 10 big chances. so the results maybe are a little misleading in just how badly they've played. They've been competitive but just haven't been finishing very well.

57:36So maybe that's the moment.

57:37Matt Davies-Adams: Jadis over is 5 '7". 5 '7". There you go. It was hope for us all in this room. Indeed so. Manrun Good, him again, or them again, says, Maranakis is already consulting his Rolodex. Ooh, surely not. And do notice, though, that the next fixture for Forrest is the Glastonaco Forrest against Crystal Palace. Kassico, as it was labelled last season, with the European club courts. Yeah, I mean, he isn't because this one has to play out. And we've been told time and time again, Forrest is just going to be one of those annoying teams this season where they win games you think they'll lose and they'll lose games you think they'll win.

58:19Matt Davies-Adams: And there's nothing more frustrating than that as a fan because you haven't got any momentum about it and you can't get a handle on it. but that's what they'll be. That's what they'll be. Okay, Everton, they don't lose games. They haven't lost a single one this season even though their squad would be tight for a five-a-side team. What, they've got 18 players or something like that? They have not had a single defeat. They actually got three points at home to Ipswich on Saturday courtesy of a goal from Tieno Barry. Thursday to Thursday's knee slide chat. You can't be doing a knee slide after the ball hits you on the bum and goes in.

58:52You can't. No. All right then. Save it for a good goal. Yeah. Mark respect. And the other game this weekend was another of the three o 'clocks on Saturday. And the Soil Hull have their first defeat. Newcastle, victorious at St. James' against the Tigers. Two goals in the first seven minutes for the Magpies, both assisted by Harvey Barnes.

59:13Matt Davies-Adams: Ooh. Hull were really good for the last 30 minutes. Yeah. They deserved a point. They really took on. It's a big win for Newcastle because the whole season, last season was going up and then falling further and further towards their own goal and getting eventually done. The fact they didn't was huge, but Hull were really, really, really good in that last three minutes. All right, then. It's going to be an interesting relegation scrap by the sound of it, if Coventry are not that bad and Hull are still pretty good and lots of big names. Pallis are fine and Forrester, fine. It should be good. Can't wait.

59:45Yeah, well, you'll have to because we've got the international break coming out now. Nations League qualifiers as mentioned, next Saturday we're going to be on late after the England-Spain match with our hot takes on that. So I do hope you'll join us for all of that on YouTube. Before that, we've got the Euro show on Tuesday and other stuff through the week. So check us out. For now, that's it for our Sunday night roundup. Many thanks to Daniel Story for being here with us. To Matt Davis Adams, similarly so, and Colin Miller too. To Thomas for join us in the booth alongside producer Charlie this week and most of all to you.

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